The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Owen Cote (feat. Chuck Todd)

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

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I think we're going to be great. I love the way. it looks. I think I'm going to love the way it is. All right. Hold on. Chuck, hold on just a second. I'll see if you have any questions here. You know Greg Cody. And the problem is if I throw you to Greg Cody, he's going to get so delighted. He's going to get so delighted. He'll get distracted and he'll just be delighted that a famous person knows who he is. So I'm scared to throw you and the show toward him. Greg, can you just ask Mike Ryan how he's feeling about things, please? Mike, how are you feeling? You know, I don't like that I'm helping you. You didn't come with olive oil. You didn't even come with a set of knives.

You don't have a chopping board. You're dulling out my knives. I don't know why I'm helping this old man at all on his birthday. It's a competition. Okay. Mike just dropped a cigarette ash into his dish. Into his dish or your dish? Okay.

All right. We're wasting Chuck Todd's time here. All right. Chuck, do you have anything to say, Greg Cody? You've known him for a long time. What would you like to say to him before we get started here? Are you talking to Greg or me? You, Chuck.

Oh, well, I just was, I'm just ecstatic that there's ash. in the soup because no good soup, you know, there's nothing that makes me want to eat than knowing there's cigarette smoking going on right at the same time that we're preparing the food. I just thought that was an excellent secret and greedy. How, uh, what is your relationship with Greg Cody? I think I was a guest on his podcast twice. That's it. Not entirely sure, though, he thinks. You tell, I, you know, he returned my call you didn't over the years. He cared that I was from Miami. You didn't. Other than that, I, you know, that's how why me and Greg tight. You and I have never spoken before. You were at the Miami game,

Notre Dame game. Were you not? Are you a lunatic? I was. No, no. I'm a season ticket holder. I have been off and on for me off and on for 30 years. My family going back to the 50s. Season ticket holder. Did you go to the Bethune Cookman game? No, I didn't go to the Bethune Cookman game. And perhaps I was to go to the University of Miami, but that's neither here nor there. All right, but I do pay my daughter's tuition. Is that okay? That's fair. Yeah, your daughter. All right. She's a senior there. So, you know, cut me a little slack. My mom went there.

My aunt went there. So you're like a judas to the family going to George Washington University. You like betrayed your parents and your children. Yeah, well, you chose that. You chose an effort for a football team. No, no, no. They had no football team, which made it easier. So you failed as a hurricane.

Yes. Okay. Huge failure. Just compared to your family, I mean. Just compared to. Absolutely. You are less hurricane than your family. And they have that over you.

They do, but I have an honorary degree now from that place. I did the commencement a couple of times. So they won't give me an honorary doctorate, but at least they gave me an honor. What it really means is that they just ask for money more often. It means you're a tropical depression. Yeah. It means they're hurricanes and you're at the tailgate. Fair enough.

Fair enough. But somebody's got to pay for this. Somebody's got to pay Carson Beck's salary. You can't buy your way into Iron Arrow. an honorary degree now and then golden cane could buy his way in you can but not into iron arrow that's what chuck todd is angling for iron arrow is tough i'm hoping my daughter gets in on that we'll see we'll find out in a few months but what is your greatest of sports allegiances is it that or the packard it's no it's the hurricanes it's the university of miami so every childhood memory come on i grew up

my first memory of going to a football game was watching otis anderson uh play football That back then, Miami, third and eight, and the best way to get a first down was to pitch it to him. It just, you know, when you're formative years as a sports fan culminate with what we got to witness from 83 to 90, I live and die by him. I live and die by him. My mood, my booed goes up and down, even in the Al Golden years, even in the, you name it, all of those horrible years over the last two decades. Every year I have too much hope, and every year my heart got broke.

Chuck, your favorite moment in the stands at the Orange Bowl is what? It was the wiping out Dion Sanders in Florida State. 31-0-0 when they came in and they did the music video, and it was, I believe it was the first game of the season. That's my favorite. Probably second favorite is Devin Hester's first game, if you remember. The first time he touched the ball, he returned it for a touchdown. Did you get a game ball?

What is that ball over your head with your name that says Miami Hurricanes? It means I gave them a lot of money. Oh. They give you one of those. That's what it means. You give them a lot of money and they send you one of those. They send you one of those. You know, it comes to this elaborate box and you're like, boy, what is this?

And you're like, oh, it's a deflated football. Okay. Well, I have a podcast studio, so I need to put something in there. I have so many questions to ask you that are not sports related. I was also at the flutie game, by the way, which, just a searing memory in my head. Jeremy, look this up for me because this is pretty funny.

Arch Leicester, just look it up for me. Worst gambling losses and stuff because he's involved with like three bets where he's in the middle of something like that flutie game. Can you tell me when you look back at your Miami life, Chuck, the things that are imprinting, is there something that's more imprinting than Miami football? No. I mean, that's the, I mean, you know, look, you know, as far as for public consumption, yeah, it's Miami football. Now that begs a follow-up.

I know it does. What else am I supposed to? Yeah, like I'm going to keep answering anything more than that. Okay. My pride in Miami is Miami football, is University of Miami football through and through. And I will say something that is real, which is I don't think I would be good at what I do. And maybe some people don't think I'm good at what I do. if it was not for growing up in Miami in the 80s.

Because I do believe Miami in the 80s, 70s and 80s, is America today. And in some ways, it always gives me a little bit of hope because we became a cooler and better city over time as we went through all of the cultural stuff and all of this stuff that the rest of the country is going through now. And so I just am glad I grew up in Miami when I did because I think it makes me smarter about understanding what's happening in America today. Hold on a second here because I want to get to all of your thoughts on what's happening in America today, but Greg Cody and Mike Ryan are still slaving and they're finishing up here. So Greg, give us an update here. Tell us what's going on up there with Mike Ryan.

Well, I think we're both on the home stretch. My soup is done. The flavors are just marrying and integrating. I can't speak for Mike's soup. He's still adding, you know, willy-nilly, he's still adding a bunch of stuff. I don't know whether he's dissatisfied with the product. I can't speak for him, but my soup is ready to go. Mike, how confident are you feeling?

Because he's been bold and he thinks he's going to win his first competition around here. Old man, 71 years old birthday today is 0 and 3 in these. How are you feeling? I'm feeling pretty good about the soup. It's getting there. Should be ready to go by Friday. Chuck, NATO plane shot down Russian drones over Poland. How close are we to World War III?

Greg, how close are we to World War III, Greg? I would say four and a half years. Oh, got it. Chuck Todd, over under. I didn't hear that last answer. What was his over under? He said four and a half, four and a half years before we're at World War. I'm certainly worried about that with China.

So unfortunately, if you're going to take, I hope it's a never, but it's either under or never. So it's over. You want it to be over? I want it to be over, but I fear it's under. When you think about China and Taiwan. But right at four and a half years. We're really going to go down that road, right? China's got this whole plan to be ready to take Taiwan by 2027.

That's less than four and a half years. But if we get to the four and a half, then it's never, Dan. You don't get it. Yeah, I think he wants it to be off the board. Like it's an incomplete bet. Meaning like you get rid of it. Okay. But where we are presently in America, Chuck Tai.

this day today right now as we speak have you ever been more terrified ever been more terrified about the future of our country um in the first two months in washington dc after 9-11 i was terrified that that was the first time i stashed cash uh had go bags to like leave because you the i promise you this the first nukes aren't going to hit miami the first nukes are hitting where i live. So that's probably the most personally scared I was those first couple of months after 9-11. But if you, the fact is, I mean, not to totally bring a downer to your show here, but this entire economic war that Trump is engaging in with tariffs, the last time we had this, you know, that the largest economy in the world kept trying to push tariffs on

everybody and everybody responded selfishly, it led to World War II. So we are certainly pushing policies right now that are only antagonistic with other countries that only encourage everybody to be worrying about themselves and the more nationalistic every country gets, the more likely you're going to go to war. Chuck, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to stop you there. We've got an update from the kitchen up there.

Mike Ryan and Greg Cody, what do you have for us, please? I heard some sounds being made back there. Was Mike yelling at Greg? Mike, what's happening up there? Greg didn't bring pepper. Greg didn't bring salt. Greg didn't bring anything. Why am I helping this, man?

Anyways, I think my soup's pretty ready. All right, we're going to get down here, bring the soups down here. I appreciate it. Thursday night, football is back, and it's only on Prime Video. This week, the Washington commanders take on the Green Bay Packers, with both teams determined to prove their worth. Something's got to give. Coverage begins at 7 p.m. Eastern with football's best party.

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Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats. Everybody, this is the quickest it goes. Yeah. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Chuck, how much worse are these ice rates going to get? I think they're going to get a lot worse. I think this is the worst the economy gets, the more you're going to see these ice rates.

Chuck, is there sound in your room right now that's not my fault, not my company's fault? It's you being the unprofessional here. That's not coming from me. I'm in my studio. Oh, Chris Cody said it was your fault. That's right after he had just, like, praised himself. He was like, I'm like a DJ back here operating the board. Chuck, how do you think you'd fare in the apocalypse?

I'd like to think I know how to survive. Yeah? What do you think? Like a couple weeks? I'd like to give myself a couple weeks before I'm eaten. Over under four and a half weeks. If you want to, like, okay, if the fate is you're going to be eaten in three weeks, do you want to live those three weeks, like, not getting eaten just to get eaten three weeks anyways?

Well, I'd like to think I'm going to try to fight and think that I'm not going to be eating, that I could fight it. We all think we could survive something like this. The fact of the matter is, 95% of us are done. No, Chuck, this show does not feel that way. I have said before that in prison, for example, I would be a vending machine for sex. I'd be holding pockets. It would be a bad situation.

I don't. So you're a survivor is what you're saying. You'll do whatever it takes to survive. My father said to me better to live a coward than die a hero. And he said it very early in his life. An apocalypse would be very bad to me. I don't know how you feel about gun ownership, but the fact that we're talking about any of this ridiculousness is something that seems more real now than it has at any point in my lifetime.

I did not experience 9-11 the way you did. I was in Dave Wonstead's office. He had a free agent coming in. He wasn't paying any attention to what was happening that day. So I didn't have enough worldliness to even understand what was happening then. I feel that way now, though. I feel right now like there are no shortage of people trying to put money away in bank accounts elsewhere because they worry about the future of our country. Oh, 100%. I mean, I think the fact that you see gold at an all-time high, you see more people doing crypto, that's not because they're great investments.

So what worries you most? Like the things that you're talking about here, like these are extremes we've never discussed before. Well, you guys started at World War III and then said like, okay, it's hard to come to. Look, we're having all this doom and gloom. I actually think we'll get through this moment, I think, but I do worry that if we continue down this road where we decide we don't give a damn about anybody else in the world, everything is about us first, we're only going to create more enemies. Look what we just did to the South Koreans. Good luck. Don't be an American and go to Seoul this week. okay they're they're so angry at us because of the of the raid in Georgia um anti-americanism is going

up up and up so a sustained amount of leadership like we're experiencing now with policies that antagonize our friends let alone our enemies is is not a sustainable way to go but i you know while i'm short-term pessimistic about i think the economy's going to crater in six months and things like that. I do think we, we, the American voter, we eventually figure it out and we eventually do the right thing. It just takes us a while. We have to experience the pain. And I think, unfortunately, we're now starting to experience the pain. What is the fairest way to report? Chris, what is that sound? I think if everyone's hearing it, we might as well address it because Chuck Todd is alleging it's not him. And I see you saying that's him. I'm not saying

it's Chuck. I have every pod down, though, that I have. Okay. But accuse him. publicly then so that we I can get out of I'm sitting here I'm not I wish I could like do a pan around I mean there is there is nobody in this room okay this is enough thing I believe you Chuck I'm on Chuck's side too all right so I am alone and hearing the voices in my head no we hear

the voices but history would prove it's not Chuck I feel like I'm hearing the kitchen still okay we will figure that let's go back to the kitchen we've got Greg and Mike for some reason still up there still staring we think we've got ambient sound from up there if any of you have anything for Chuck Todd Get your asses down here so we can keep doing our show a little more professionally than we've done it so far, please.

Yeah, well, Greg and I were pretty feisty, and then we heard that interview, and we realized that pretty much in about three weeks, everybody's going to be making soup to survive. So we're going to be done with this because I think we're just generally checked out on society. Okay, very good. All right, get down here. So the soup box is a tie? They just quit? No, we're going to taste it down here. They're going to bring it down here now.

It's not a tie. Another habit we have to break is Dan just ruining every show with World War III talking. Jeez. What have you been hearing in recent weeks about the health rumors around Trump? What is the fairest way to report any of this? How do you take the politics out of Biden's a danger because he's clearly having mental atrophy and, you know, there's a bit of a madman in the White House in ways that a lot of people understand?

Donald Trump's a 79-year-old man who never worked out a day in his life, who doesn't eat healthy, and he's got all the problems that somebody that age. who didn't at all take care of himself doesn't eat healthy has he's the you ever go into a a Walmart or a Publix and and there's people riding the scooter because they can't walk the aisles they can walk but they don't like to walk because it hurts and their ankles are twice the size of their calves that's you know i you know look he this is this is what age does so i look at it that way, and I assume they're lying to us. They're not telling us the truth about his health.

The last time they gave us his height and weight, I think it was the equivalent of the middle linebacker of the Eagles. That was amazing. Chuck, hold on just a second. Billy, why are you and Jeremy laughing at the great frustration on Chris Cody and how

he's turned redder than he actually is on the back of his neck because another stray sound got out on the board, and he's saying, this isn't coming from us. And I'm convinced that it is. I'm convinced that this is our fault. Billy, what? I'm convinced that's not this room's fault. Oh. Whoa. Who's fault do you think? I just don't want to blame this on Chuck. Chuck, does this happen to you often in these hits? I was just going to, I'm clearly going to get

blamed for this as soon as this segment is over. Yeah. Right? Because if I were Chris, I would do that. Hey, that dude's lying. He didn't want to admit it. I mean, look, we all just talk. We're all going to be it's all about survival of the fittest here, right? And he's got to survive longer with you than I do. So, You know, it, it isn't me, but I know that I'm going to get blamed for this. Chuck, there were some people questioning your last answers saying they didn't believe that you frequent Walmart when you mentioned Walmart. People wondering when the last time you went to a Walmart was. I got a place in Pensacola. I go to Pensacola.

I have a place there. I live part-time there at times on the beach. And there's publics in Walmart when you got to go get stuff. So, yeah, I go to a Walmart more often. And then, and if you're a political reporter and you're not sort of going, you know, in all honesty, I do believe you've got to sort of frequent where America goes, not where East Coast elites go. If you want to just have an idea of how American voters are experiencing things, not to be too. You're a target man, though. We can agree.

I know. You go to Walmart out of necessity. You're not flying spirit. No, I would never. I wouldn't fly spirit to fly you. you know, to rescue you. I wouldn't do that to anybody. You check out any Pensacola Blue Wahoo's games, Chuck?

I have. I have. That's the Marlins. That's the Marlins' AA. Wow. A franchise. No, no, no. You guys were questioning my...

Beautiful ballpark there on the water. Chuck, I'm not comfortable with what's happened here. They are absolutely assuming that you've arrived at a level of fame that you simply can't be an every man. They presume that based on what? on Chuck Todd's credentials? Like, you did put that on him. Who's they? Me?

You guys in... No, we're talking Wahoo's, man. Bubba Watson. Yeah, I just want to nobody thinks. That's the offense that you're taking, right? That they would assume that you would be too good to walk into a Walmart? I'm not taking offense. I get it.

I know people stereotype, and stereotypes are around for a reason. And I have plenty of my peers that would never step foot in a Walmart. But you drew the line pretty quick on Spirit Airlines. Oh, 100%. I'm a total flying snob. As much time, anybody that's been a political reporter or a beat reporter in sports or whatever and you fly more than once a week, I think you've earned the right to be a travel snob and a flight snob and all of those things.

So, no, I will make no apologies about being a flight snob. How can you explain to the people without seeming political, reactionary, hyperventilating, the place that you are with fearing today, the collapse of both the economy and the democracy. Like, when else in your life have you felt however it is that you feel right now in these days, weeks, and months? Look, we haven't. I don't think we've ever felt this way when it comes to the democracy in our lifetime. I only comfort myself by realizing that we did go through this in the 1920s. We lost our mind after the pandemic in 1918.

We banned alcohol right after the pandemic. Like we were just, you know, as a society, we lost our minds for about a decade. The worst graft in the history of government took place in the 1920s. This ridiculous tariff business took place in the 1920s. Now, all of it led to World War II, which is why we should take this, why we should realize that, hey, let's learn a lesson from history. please um but i guess i look at it and i do i do still have enough faith that we'll get through this we'll get past this and part of it is because he's 79 years old he isn't going to live forever jesus is what you said back there chris you said jesus we started at world war three and

him telling you that trump's not going to live forever makes you that's the one that makes you no i mean i've said jesus a few times during this segment i think you was 33 i tell you i I didn't expect this to go this dark as quickly. Yeah, that's what happens here. It is. I was just going to say, this is why I both, I love your show, Dan, because you go dark fast. You go right to the darkest spot. Did you just call me Dave?

Yeah, I said Dan. Yeah, that's fine. You said Dan. You know, Chuck went to Killian. You went to Killian, right, Chuck? I did. So, Dan, you know, who else went to Killian? It was Tony.

And Tony told us that he used to be afraid walking down the hallways that someone would walk up to him and snatch his chain right off of his neck. So, Chuck, are you more scared of World War III or getting your chain snatched off your neck at Killian High School? You know, it's funny that Killian's become this negative symbol. It was just, it was sort of the other Palmetto when I went there in the 80s. And now that like, you know, I don't, I have a lot of opinions about what's happened in the Miami-Dade school system. Oh. But the fact that Killian has become, the fact that Killian has become apparently the high school.

school, the last high school you want to go to in South Miami-Dade County is pretty sad. But I have heard that it is not a, not necessarily the place you want to walk the halls these days. As the former moderator of Meet the Press, probably one of the greatest press of the greatest press shows of all time, of most distinction, what has happened, that should have been in Mike's top 10 yesterday. That was disrespectful that Mike Ryan's top 10 sports shows didn't have the sports reporters.

How about inside stuff not being on his top 10? Come on. Yeah, there were some flaws in that list. But the state of the American media today as someone who's been a guardian for it, who cares about some of the things that I care about here. Typical Dave. This guy.

Luckily, the tropics are quite, are you hearing about hers. All right, get out of here. His podcast, the Chuck Toddcast. You can get it wherever it is. get your podcast. Thank you, Chuck. I appreciate it. So this was a good idea to do this show, right? Yes. Well, I don't know. I don't know what kind of trouble. You're a serious journalist. You're a serious person. No, but I'm also independent. I would have, that last question. The problem is the corporate ownership now. Media doesn't have a chance if you're

owned by a corporation, a big, massive corporation. You just don't have a shame. Metal art media is free, and you see how well that goes during your segment. We're free. We don't got any responsibilities to anybody, but our audio doesn't work. Hey, Chuck, start of next year. You want to be our Blue Wahoo's correspondent? Once a week, stop in. Let us know how the AA farm team's doing for the Marlins. Not every week, but I'll be a reporter once a month.

Yeah, I'd pull that off once a month. Awesome. Can't wait. There you go. Go ahead. One minute segment. Go ahead and make it with him. And we'll do Matthew Berry for three minutes, and maybe we'll get good at you being less worried.

And 30 seconds of Ray Hudson. Do things quickly. Yes, do things well quickly. Other speakers doing them well quickly. I wasn't worried at all what you just said. Chuck, thank you. Appreciate the time. I don't think that he respects me anymore

He loves you Dave I want to relive he is still here before you get out of here Let's relive if he did indeed call you Dave or Dan He did he absolutely did This is why the second time I All right here we go Chuck we weren't talking to you Chuck have you done television before

Chuck have you done television before Hold on a second All right I'm going to hit the sound right now This is why I both I love your show Dave This is why I both I love your show Dave This is why people think the media lies, Chuck Todd. You've been caught in a lie. You've been caught dead in a lie.

I love how it was cut off there. That's all I'm going to say. No. It was cut off. You think he's that good? What evidence do you have in this segment that he's good at his job? You give me all the evidence you have that he would be that quick at that? I love you. Wow, you're using that as your defense. That's pretty good. Incompetence is the defense. You think he could edit it that quickly to betray you? That is why I both, I love your show, Dave. Chuck Todd. Anyway, I swear. Fair enough. Liar, there it is. All my critics, you did it.

You exposed me. I finally got him. You exposed me. This woke turd, get out of here. He might have been calling you Dane like former Blue Wahoo, Dane Myers. Of God. That's exactly what it is. I'm going to take that.

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Okay. You have no control over your emotions. You have no control over your emotions. When you're calling someone you know an idiot, I don't deserve it. Okay. I don't deserve it. All right. And you're a fool for saying it.

Okay. Stugats. You're a fool. I was kind of following. Oh, you're locking in right now? You're locking in on eyes? Yeah, all right. Let's drop the gloves, pal.

Let's rock. You should be thanking me. For what? Every day. For what? For what? For what? For what I've done around this character.

And the second shit gets. real for you? You want to come at me and call me a fool? Huh? Yeah, no, no, no. Seriously. Seriously, pal. I've added 10 years to your career. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Let's do that right now. Uh, no. Where does our imaging here? Uh, you should know that.

Right behind you. I thought you meant audio-wise. Like, where do you hear like, this is the Dan Levitart show? That's imaging. These are images. This went well. It did not go well. Uh, the soup off.

I don't know where we are in the soup off. Can you explain to me why the audio was so bad on the soup off? Like, it's 14 floors away. Because I wasn't there. Is that what happened? Because Jeremy wasn't there. That seems, Sazel, what would you say about how we executed all of that audio-wise? I thought the audio was fine with the soup off.

I do want to get to the bottom of where was, like, where was the other programming that we were hearing? It was a Zoom issue. It was not coming from Chuck. It was coming from Zoom's issue. And we figured it out. And it's hard. You can't turn that off. When we have him pot it up, anything that comes out over Zoom is going to come out there.

All right. That's probably enough of that. That is the peril of live television. television that Zaslo was explaining to you before. Greg, you smell delicious. Thank you. You smell like, you, no, but he smells like lentil and sausage. He does not smell like coconut.

He does not smell like coconut milk, but he just came in here. You smell it, right, Zaslo? Yeah, I'm into it. It's not a soup. It's mine. I don't think it's the scent of your soup. It's my soup. My soup is very aromatic. It's my soup.

That's funny. Have we decided how we're going to do this now? Zazlo, what is the smell in here? Would you say it's closer to sausage and lentil than it is to anything coconut milk? It smells like lentil. It doesn't smell like Thai food. It doesn't smell like orange chick how I love Thai food. It smells like lentil.

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Yeah, Mike was adding ingredients left and right. Imagine that. A chef adding ingredients. Not a good sign when after you say your soup is done, you're still adding ingredients, including water? Yeah. Who puts water? Because I assumed more people would want to have this because it was so good.

Okay. We'll see. Cooking for the masses here. Yeah. Are we ready to do this? I think the way that I want to do this, Chris Cody, is I will try it and I will vote. Zazlo will try it and Zazzo will vote. If we have a tie, then the room will decide.

All four of you will try it and all four of you will decide. I wanted this. I wanted this to land on Dan's lap. I was hoping the shipping tanner go first, Zaz second, and then Dan breaks the tie. But we can do it your way. Let's bring them in here and let's get started. and let's get Jeremy to give us so that we can get the payoff here

before we get off of live. Give me a healthy portion, please. Give me... Of which one? Both. Mine. Remember whose birthday it is? Zazzle, you're eating a lot around here. Whose birthday is there?

I don't know. The food, it's there. It's a spread. Jeremy, the reason I asked you about Arch Leicester, by the way, in the middle of Chuck Todd telling us his Doug Flutie game stories because I saw the story the other day that Arch Leicester was just recently arrested with two crack pipes on him and as like going to jail.

And it's one of the saddest stories you will hear in the story of addiction in sports. But Arch Schleister, 65 years old now in failing health, is in the middle of three of the biggest sports upsets of all time. Arch Leicester is in the middle of these. Is he not, Jeremy? Is that the story that you ended up finding? It's like one of the all-time bad beat unluckiest, the Cosmos hate you stories of all time. I'll go back and find those results. All I know is that he had gotten to a point when he was betting $50,000 a pop on three-team college basketball parlays

after borrowing $300,000 from banks just on Good Damon's signature. And in April of 1983, the FBI arrested four bookies that allegedly threatened to break his passing arm and harm his family because he didn't pay them $159,000 that he owed them. What's wrong, Dan? He's still putting ingredients in his soup. It looked like Mike who's preparing now the bowls. It looked like he just poured a little crushed red pepper. How come I'm not out there preparing my bowl?

That's what I even asking. First, Mike is going to serve his and then he'll serve yours. You've got to get just the right amount of protein, lentils, and song. That's why Mike was like, yo, I'm not letting them serve it. I need to serve these. So Mike should be bringing it in now. Dan will be our first tester. You guys all sharing a bowl?

Tainting the jury here. Hey, what's up, Owen, Cody? Owen four. That's what you're going to be. Fun, hey, fun. That's very confident. I really didn't know that Mike was someone who could cook. We still don't.

We still don't know that. Try a bite. He's awfully confident. Yeah, let's keep the mic a little closer. Here we go. Oh, there we go. Jumped right in. Let's see, hold on.

Get the mic in front of you so we can really hear this. That wasn't a good look. He did make uplifted that thing that went downward, where now it's like, how do I spare the feelings? No, it's very, no, it's good. It's delicious. I'm convinced. What do you think of that reaction?

I would say, I would like. It's a very, there's a lot going on. He needs a few more bites. Okay. Biting soup is always a bad start. Is this the one with ash in it? That would be the one that has ash in it. So now does he pass that bowl over to Zaz?

Are we going to get another bowl? Yeah, they're sharing a spoon too, I think. Now you spit it in Zaz's mouth. No, I love the chicken in it. Or are you on sharing spoons and stuff? I'm out on the sharing spoon. Yeah, you're out on it. Are you a mother bird situation?

Would you go different spoons, same bowl? I like the texture. Or you prefer a full... I'd prefer my own bowl, but I could do the same bowl. We're not sharing the spoon. I'll get you a spoon, pal. All right. It's got a good kick.

Get two spoons. I want my dad to try it too. I want him to be able to taste his competition. What? No, I think that both of these guys are going to like this soup because it's good. But I know your dad's a great cook, and I know his sausage and lentil is also good. am. I'm hearing a lot of good, not great. Well, I will tell you that I will know

your father's critique with this. I know what he's going to say is his critique, but I'm going to eat it all before you guys get spoons. Like, I would think that somebody would go get a spoon for our participants here. We could probably have enough bowls for everybody. I don't know why we're doing it this way. Well, it's a good second guess, but this is what happens with live television.

Like, three spoons wouldn't have been hard in a company of 30 people to get three spoons, like I think, you know. What's Ethan doing? There's 50 people out there. I don't, yeah. I'm paying all of them, but none of them are getting Spoon. Oh, nice. I got my own bowl here. Oh, this is good right here. You guys get paid. Did you take out the carrots? I don't need carrots. I'm glad I don't need to share it. I'm glad I can

have it. What do you mean you don't need? Dad, whip your... Dad, whip around and share it with Dan. All right. This is good. All right, here. He's going to pass it over to you maybe. No, I'll wait for him to eat over my shoulder. There you go. All right, Zaz. First now here. Now Zaz's first. Here we go. I got to avoid the carrots. Do I take my headphones off? I think you need the carrots so you get the full experience. A carrot will not touch my How do we feel about how Zaz is holding the spoon here?

That's solid, actually. You know what? No, that's really effing good. See, that's... You like Typhoon? That's really good. Thai food. All right, Greg, now going in for a sip here.

What are you doing? All right. Blowing on it a little bit. Is it a sip of soup? He's going to want it to be creamier. That's really good. A slurp of soup? He's going to want it to be thicker.

He just gave a shrugging. Not great audio. Him shrugging in shoulders. Not saying a word. Not great for broadcasting. Okay, it's slightly thin. My biggest negative critique would be that I'm getting very little coconut flavor, which should be a major star of this.

Don't you want it to be subtle, I feel like? It's got spice on it. Like, it's got a good taste that stays with you after that. I'm looking for it. We've got three minutes left to get to Greg. I don't know what you got going on, Greg, but this is really good. Did you have some of the far row? Mm-hmm.

You had some of the far row? Yeah. You like the far row? It's okay. It's a good far row, huh? It's not my favorite. It's well cooked, but it's furrow is not my favorite. All right, Greg, go get your soup.

Okay. We have to, that's right, I forgot about us. I'm respectful. Yeah. Now the shipping container will taste Mike's soup. You guys are going to like that. I don't really want to share soup with you guys. I'm going to be honest. I have another pepper flakes. I do you guys get the red pepper flakes. I do have some red pepper flakes in here. Yeah, yeah. All right, Billy does not want to share a bowl with me, so they're bringing another bowl for Billy. But I'll go first here. I'm getting seconds. Ooh, chicken looks good. All right, here we go. I don't need a lot of soup. Yo, this is really good.

That's damn good soup. That's damn good. Yeah, you should do this every day. I mean, are we not going to get PDQ now or something, though? Because it's still, you know. It's got the kick that you want. It's got some spice after that. You like it?

I like it. Good amount of chicken. You? All right. I don't have soup yet. It's coming in. It'll get there. Give me billies.

Jeremy's not having any? I'd like to. but I don't have any soup I'll share your soup All right yeah here we go This was well planned I think In terms of being able to get everybody What it is that they needed

When they needed it so we could do live television We're having a good time Alright here we go Jeremy now Jeremy's going It's hot That's the biggest my biggest beef with it It's just really hot So it's hard to get it Why would it be a beef?

Just because like we're trying to taste it But I don't want it scolding hot That's good It smells good It's really good Everybody would like this soup It's great All right now that's great soup

Yeah, that's what I would say, too. Now, Greg is going to bring in. Greg's in big trouble. He is. But I think Mike made a better choice with his soup is the thing. Like, when this is done well, this is a more delicious soup than almost all the other soups. And Mike's right. It does taste like Thai food.

Mike, that's cultural appropriation by Mike. That's spectacular soup. It feels like authentically Thai food. Whatever. I love cultural appropriation. All right, Greg's walking now for those listening. Super, super. It's tasty cultural appropriation.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Does cultural appropriation taste good? Well, where's the line between appropriation honoring? Oh, you know what I'm going to do here? This might foul up the experience that I have this taste in my mouth, the same spoon going to... You need to cleanse your palates. Yeah, someone get us water? Yeah, I need a water spoon. Greg, thank you for cooking for us on your birthday. You're welcome. I will tell you, Greg's soup looks good. It does look good, but Greg, I will tell you that I'm worried.

worried about you. I don't think. I don't think you're going to win, and I love your lentil soup and your sausage soup. I just think he chose a better, I think he chose a better soup. Greg, do you think it's a disadvantage that I tried his first? No, I do think it's a disadvantage when one of the judges says I'm not going to win before taking a bite. And gave your competitor more time, if you remember correctly. Well, you know, that carrots in yours, too. I'm not doing that. Carrots. You don't like carrots? It'll help you see better. You never Bugs Bunny? Yeah.

Did you try Greg? Mike, I wish I could have several bowls of that soup. I am afraid that Mike's going to win by blowout. You can't say that before you've tried the other one. I just did try it. I just did try it. Bad sign, Craig. It's not a bad soup.

No, it's not a bad soup. Billy, what do you think of that soup? Billy now is getting Mike's soup. So let's get Billy's judgment on Mike's soup. Not the face you want. It's good. It's good, soup. That's my praise.

Greg, it's a good soup. That's high grace. Thank you. Is this Greg's coming in now? People need to understand. Greg's is very good. Like, it's got the consistency you want. It's got, I will tell you, his protein content and quality and amount is better than the other soup.

It's a hardier soup. You'd agree with that. All right. I'm tasting my dad's right now for the first time. Here we go. It's a hardier soup. Greg's is a better meal, I would say. It depends on what we're judging.

We're going flavor. Man. This is good, too. I'll tell you what, neither of these is PDQ, so I hope that's still coming. You get that far row? Oh, all right, now we vote. Greg's in a bad spot. I think all of us just like coconut milk soup better than...

Greg's is good. My God, my dad's is hardy. This is a good hearty soup. All right, hold on. Let's do this now. There are five of us here. Why doesn't anyone cook like this in my house? Let's go around.

You're both better at this than you are at radio. I think you're great at radio. They're both. They're both good at this, and one of them is good at radio. So the soup that we have in front of us right now, Jeremy, if you had to vote, you would vote for. You've got to vote. Don't worry about anybody's feelings. Don't worry about any birthdays.

Mike. I'm sorry, Greg. Chris Cody, you are biased, but you would vote which way as a fellow fat person. I've grown up eating it. I love Mike, but I'm going to go with my dad's soup. I'm going with it. Look at that. I'm going with the hearty.

It's got a nice spice to it. I like him both, though. They are both good. Billy Gill, which way do you vote? You guys are still going to vote? This isn't the deciding vote. Would you like to be the deciding vote? No, no, I would not.

It's a wild Billy Wednesday if you want to be the deciding vote. I think they're both good but different. Does that make sense? Yeah. I'm going to stick with that. They're both really good but different. Okay. That seems like he's recusing himself.

Now let's vote. It seems like he's recusing himself. No, let's get a vote. Let's tie food. Let's pin them down. The thing is, both of these, if I'm going to be honest, and I don't mean to be crass. Both are bad. Both of these are going to give me the shits, you know?

It's kind of which one. I feel like Mike's is going to sting a little more on the way out than the way in, so I'm going to give it to Greg. Oh, Greg. Vote for Greg. All right, Zaz. I like this ending on Dan. All right. This is good soon.

I wonder which way Mike, our Dan's going to vote. I mean, come on. Actually, since we know, should we let Dan vote next and then put it all on Zaz and the mortal enemy? Dan's voting for me. You know what? I'm having a lot of money. All right, Dan, you go first. Okay.

Mike's is better. Oh, Zaz. So what did the shipping a Tater vote? Don't worry about that. It's two, two. We're split it to. Right now, it's Jeremy and Dan voting for Mike. Billy and I voting for Greg.

It all comes down. Greg did say he was happy to see you today because you messed up. To Zazlo. Okay, I took one more Sip of Greggs. Do you think a sip of? I mean of mics. Now I'm going to take another of Greggs.

Get that carrot off the spoon. Man, that's really good. Happy birthday. Hey, to you. Not cool. Not fair. Not fair. You shut up, Dad.

Shut him up. Seriously, the guy who didn't vote for me is singing happy birthday. Yeah. Nice. Man. your soup's really good all right

and that's why you're the winner yeah oh no time it's really good so flavorful he didn't try the carrots though so he didn't get a real feel

for the soup I'll never have a carrot his vote shouldn't count Owen dad your thoughts man that's good I have no comment good

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