The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Pablo, Tony, and Andrew Hawkins Walk Into a Podcast

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

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You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Dan Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. So what you're about to hear is a taste, a morsel of Poblatory finds out today. It's Sharon Tell, it's Mina Kimes, it's Dan Levittard, and it's Tom Brady, in a sense. So that's this for the rest of it though, which gets into lots of stuff involving the fate of the Republic. And also whether Mina Kimes has more group chats than anyone else on the planet, that's over in our feed on YouTube or our podcast thing, which I guess also called a feed. It's been a long week.

Enjoy. I did not expect to be the guy bringing the football topic today, but I have been really interested in what we're supposed to do with Tom Brady as he is, yeah, replacing Greg Olson in the booth next year for Fox. And we all know that story by now. Greg Olson has, it's just impossible to be better at this than he has while also losing your job. And so there is this clip of Tom Brady that went viral recently that I want to play for you guys because it was this glimmer. It was framed and hailed as a glimmer of what he could be which is to say like actually Interesting question mark if you can play that they're just calling probabilities. Okay, there's a probability on third down in short

They're gonna play man-to-man coverage. So therefore on my call sheet. I'm gonna call my man-to-man beaters Oh, they didn't call man-to-man. Looks like, you know, a simple cover two zone. This play isn't really working for that. Okay, in my mind, it was like, okay, let me get to my best cover two play against this look. As opposed to now we get the ball, okay, it's, it's, we've got a bunch of crossing routes in the cover two, that's not good.

Let me hold the ball and go run it. And then people on TV go, oh, you know, great play, way to run. And in my mind, I'm going, why did you snap the ball? I mean, you clearly knew no one's gonna be open. And so that's just Brady talking to Steve Young on his podcast and having an edge to him and also just this conviction,

which made him automatically interesting to me. And Mina, I just want to know for you, right? Like there's this conversation and you've been in a booth calling NFL games for the Rams. He's going to have to tighten it up. Those windows are small. Like if he thinks he's going to have the ability to explain all of that, he better speed that shit up.

Right. So how do you foresee the Tom Brady experiment going as he is basically handed a job that everyone else has to climb a ladder through mud and many sharp elbows to get to? What I found interesting about that clip is not so much the substance of what he's saying, which is he's criticizing a quarterback using his legs for basically not engaging in the sort of pre-snap mastery that Tom Brady engaged in, which I have to think like Brady has probably watched a lot of quarterback mobility over the last few years

and been like silently seething. He only ran because he needed to run and all. I have Mina not to interrupt you too much here, but I do think that he will be paid $375 million to bitterly excoriate that Mahomes is not as good as him in every game that he calls Mahomes. I can't wait for that. As he calls all of football mediocre and just rains down upon Mahomes, he's not as good as I was.

Sorry to interrupt you. That's what's interesting about the clip. So I do think something that either bothers you or you love is when announcers are critical of quarterbacks. Like whenever you see Chris Collins worth trending on Twitter, it's usually NFL fans complaining about him being too positive about a quarterback. I would say the reverse has been true of Aikman in the past.

Roy Aikman tends to be more critical of quarterbacks. I love it personally. I think it's really funny. And I think he had a fantastic year too. So I think what we saw there was a glimpse of the possibility that Dan alluded to, which is Tom Brady might actually be critical. I've never heard, like like the clip of him complaining

about the NFL that was very general, right? But if he actually does what he did there, let's say we turn on a game and it's Jalen Hertz and he's just struggling against the Blitz again, Tom Brady going in on him would be the most controversial and interesting thing Tom Brady has ever said. So if he actually were to do that, and then given his, the fact that he has the authority to do so,

I would find that fascinating. I hope that that's the case. I am most interested in this part of it. And he's an old man by athletic standards. So he is approaching 50, and the way that he's approaching this, when athletes struggle a great deal with what do I do after I have buried who I used to be, after I have grieved that my identity is I was Tom Brady who played

and now I'm Tom Brady who talks about this and wants to be successful and I'm treating it competitively, I'm gonna sit out a year until I get good at this. And I ask you Mina because I do believe this part is funny and interesting. I believe Tony Romo's enthusiasm just like John Grudens. You like football, I like football, that works. Hey, Tony Romo, there has to be an intervention with you

and CBS executives because you're not taking this job seriously enough. I really don't know what the balance is on this. I think Tom can take it so seriously that he strangles it or he could get good at it, but I do wonder if he thinks he's gonna get his smart off in 15 seconds at a time, enthusiasm and likability counts for something.

He's starting from a likable place, but the fact that he cares so much about this, I think can be as a preparation, it can give him comfort, but it also can be overprepared and you can think you've got this handled and not have it handled because you're not treating it as relaxed as Romo did from the beginning. I also think that we're talking a lot about the craft of announcing and we should because

it's a really interesting job. It is a very high paying job. It's a very high profile job. There's a reason, by the way, that like the greatest of... I mean, truly, Wayne Gretzky is calling or he's in the studio doing hockey commentary now. Tom Brady wants to be in the booth the greatest of all time With LeBron want to do this he seemed to enjoy being at the desk after winning a championship being very open and interesting Right, so there's I get why people want to do this

I just think it's very funny that inside of any sort of like broadcast network The conversation is very simple. It's like oh get get Tom Tom Brady. Yeah, him. We want Tom Brady, period. Because on some level, you just want to know what he thinks. Like everything he says would make news in a way that must be infuriating to like other competitors for that job. Like Greg Olson went from a tight end who was like mildly well known, you know, to most normal people, if at all,

to Tom Brady where it's just like, whatever his take is, is inherently interesting because that's how good he used to be. Now, there's gonna be a diminishing returns on that where if he's super boring all of the time, people will stop being interested. But the bar, the floor on him, because you just wanna know what Tom Brady thinks.

And that's gonna carry him through a lot of the first year. the floor on him. Because he is. Because you just want to know what Tom fucking Brady thinks. But what if what he thinks is that football today is more mediocre than when he played it? That's his starting point. His starting point is not the affection for football. Now we know he loves football, but Olson and Romo make you feel like they're enjoying their Sunday as much as you are. Brady's starting point is I think the product's mediocre the moment I leave the field. I don't think he's gonna be a crank. That dude loves the game. I mean, the brief glimpses you get of him on the field

where he does show personality. So what we're talking about is that clip is him criticizing quarterback play, but quarterback play isn't the entire broadcast. You know, just that. Like I think Tom Brady, I just pictured Tom Brady calling an ironer's game and watching the way Christian McCaffrey

has used Hillgoat Crazy about it. For example, just drawing that out. I'm actually pretty optimistic about the depth of both the tone, which is what we're talking about, and the depth of knowledge he's going to bring. And I think because of who he is, as Pablo said, it adds an additional layer of interest. To me, it just sucks that he's replacing Greg Olson,

who was doing such a fantastic job. Those are big shoes to fill. I thought that he was pretty critically celebrated almost by consensus. I know it's a ridiculous thing to say, how will Tom Brady ever replace Greg Olson? But Greg Olson, I felt like was a huge media darling, not since Romo had I seen a broadcasting,

not since Romo was correctly predicting plays on television, had I seen a broadcaster of any kind, any sport, celebrated the way that Greg Olson was for starting as a rookie and being great at it immediately. But that's also why I imagine Tom Brady is putting out clips like this. Like he's hearing this. That must be so frustrating for Tom Brady to be like,

wait a minute, you guys do know who I am, right? So if we as a media organism can basically dare Tom Brady enough to be interesting. It's kind of like that guy cannot possibly pull off this, come back with two minutes left in the fourth quarter. I feel like we can actually shame him into being interesting. His one personality trait that we know of is competitive freak. Yes.

That dude is hearing all of this. And by the way, when he took a second, he didn't jump right into the booth. Again, knowing what we know about him, he's probably been doing an insane amount of preparation. The criticism of Romo now is that he's maybe not as prepared as he was initially. These are all the weak stories we're seeing.

That's not going to be the case with Tom Brady based on everything we know about him. But Mina, I would say to you as someone who has done that, I would say to you as someone who has a lot of information at her disposal, you know how fast all that moves. You can prepare for that. Tom Brady, I'm sure will have a lot of things to say and not enough time to say them

because you are not prepared for how quickly all of that moves when you've got 700 sheets of paper in front of you and you need to know who the backup nickel package is on the left side, who's in too deep coverage this time. You need to know every, I don't think people understand that Al Michaels every week for 17 times a year,

however long it is, that the burden that is Al Michaels at his age, just learning every player on the roster because you need to know who recovered that fumble. As opposed to the NFL when he had three seconds to identify every player on the field and get off like a perfect pass. What are we talking about here? I just want to send Tom Brady,

specifically that clip of Dan. Just watch this and make my Sundays better as a result. My concern about Tom Brady, the broadcaster, is not anything Dan said, which is, come on. It's that he was going to be bland. And that's why this clip has got me intrigued. Because if he's willing to criticize quarterback play, he will not be bland.

That was my, you know, I was just like, oh, is he gonna be afraid? Cause this dude is studiously non-controversial. Right, well he's political with his takes. Yes. But you guys laugh at me as if the difference between sculpting 25 years of I need the ball out in two seconds and hey, Tom, be be smart funny and interesting in four seconds go as

If that's not an entirely different skill set funny he can be okay not be You hear that Brady Brady you hear that be smart interesting and likable and do it in seven seconds here And don't step on your on your lead guy because he's got to get to the next play because it's hurry up offense now I don't know. I'm not worried. I'm the guy who said seven years before his career was done that he was declining and he had another Hall of Fame career after that. I'm certainly used to questioning Tom Brady. I'm just saying that the degree of difficulty on this, no amount of preparation actually prepares you for it. The first time he does it, he will feel like he was less good than he wanted to be because no amount of preparation will prepare you for it.

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This is the Don Lebat Tar Show with these two guys What's up fight fans welcome to another episode of the MMA hangout it's your boy Tony Colladiud and today We're diving deep into the main event of UFC 298 Alexander Volkanowski versus Ilya Toporya Undisputed versus undefeated for Featherweight Gold. And we're here to give you everything you need to know if you plan on watching this weekend. Joining me is the one and only Danny Segura from MMA. Junkie, Danny, what's up, brother? This is a massive, massive fight.

And we are only one month into the UFC calendar. And we've got a legend versus an undefeated, just beast monster. He's incredible. What it was like, I am so excited for this fight. Yeah. The last few fight nights have been quite terrible and so was the first paper view of the year. So this one on paper promises to deliver.

So I'm super excited to finally starting 2024, getting some quality mixed martial arts. So I'm all in on this fight and on this fight card. It's amazing. If you are kind of on the fence on whether or not you should watch it, this is it. This is it. I mean, we might be witnessing the end of an era, the start of a new one, we're going to get into it in just a few seconds, but super, super stoked for this fight. The UFC last year put on banger after banger after banger and this time last year, we were looking at Volk versus Makachev

in the first of their two fights, which was an instant classic. And now we're looking at, a year later, we're looking at Volkanovsky again, defending another featherweight title against somebody who has been I'm running out of words and adjectives to describe Ilya Toporya his division. He hasn't fought Yair. He hasn't fought T-City. He hasn't fought a lot of these guys, but he's getting the fast track to a title.

Can you explain to the people, Ilya Toporya, his rise and what he means right now in this title fight? Yeah. So this was an interesting one and I've been caught in like a weird situation with this one because I saw this coming like a long time ago. I feel like people are now seeing like, oh, snap, it's Iliatapuria, this and that. But because of my coverage in Spanish as well, because I do coverage in both English and Spanish, I've been witnessing the rise in popularity,

maybe a little bit fast forward than everybody else because it's come through the Spanish side first and then it's kind of had a lag effect on the English ones. So just now people are realizing like, oh my God, we might have like a very, very talented fighter could go on to lead, to be a champion. People are saying, when are lose?

Like he's bound to be champion. He might lose this one, but eventually he's going to get to the belt. He's going to be a pound for pound, you know, one of the best in the world. Like people are already just putting him as a future great. And he's giving everybody reasons to believe that. And again, as you mentioned, not only is the skill there, but he just has sort of a tone about him that's very cool, that's kind of like a villain type.

And he does a very good job at marketing himself. He's good looking, as you mentioned. He's got an entire country of Spain backing him. And Spain right now is so hot in terms of just hunger for MMA. I've never seen traffic like we've been seeing in the last few months in terms of just a specific country. Just to give some people some insight, over at Ablemos MMA where I do my Spanish work,

46% of the audience is from Spain. Wow. I mean, nearly half of the audience of Ablemus MMA is Spanish and that's trumping, you know, Hispanic Americans, all of South America, Central America, Mexico, which we know are huge countries for expansion lards. So right now we're just witnessing something very, very special for Spain and specifically obviously for Ilya Toporya. And just looking at this

matchup, right? We like to do things differently here on MMA Hangout. Like, yes, this is a monster matchup. Yes, we will technically break down the fight in a little bit. But we want to answer questions for people that are both watching this for the first time, getting into MMA, but also have a foundational knowledge of the sport and of the fight and of the narratives of these fights. And you know, in other words, I'm, let me interrupt you. And in other words, in parentheses, in small words, when you watch the fight at a bar, you know what you're talking about.

So you're not an idiot asking around, hey, who is this guy? We got you covered. You're going to sound like the biggest expert. You know, everything you need to know from this preview. Exactly. What I see here, Danny, is we are looking at one of those moments in time, right? And it goes across sports where the baton looks to be passed from one generation to the next generation. Alexander Volkonovsky is an incredible champion. He's defended his belt a thousand times against

some of the best fighters in the world. He's gone up. He's looked good. Obviously this past one where he got knocked out with the high head kick and it could have happened to anybody. But he's looked as solid as a champion has looked through his reign in the featherweight division. He's never lost. He's never lost in the featherweight division. So for those of you, this will be a nice little nugget when you're at the bar when you're at your buddy's house. There have been four featherweight champions in the last 15 years, four of them, Jose Aldo, McGregor, Max Holloway, Alexander Volskinovsky. That's it. And he's beat three of them.

McGregor no longer in the game. Exactly. And he's beat three of them and he's beat other guys that probably will be champions in the next couple of years. Yeah, Rodriguez mainly the most impressive one. But it looks like this is the moment where we saw it in basketball where magic and bird passed to Jordan, who passed it to Kobe, who passed it to LeBron. We saw it in football where all the quarterbacks would pass it down now Brady to Mahomes. Mahomes just winning another champion, another Super Bowl.

It feels like if this is the moment Volkanowski can pass it down to the next generation, Ilya Topodiyo, it feels to me a bit like the situation where McGregor came in, had some fights against guys that were okay, but was a star, then took that turn where he knocked out Jose Aldo, and then the sky was the limit for him. Like if Ilya can knock out Volk or beat him the way that he's talking about beating him. This is the stage setter where the sky is the limit for this kid. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. We're looking almost at two storylines competing

against each other, right? Is Volk too old, right? Is he getting old? Or, you know, is this a new start of Ilya Tapuria and his era? Or is Volk still at the top, right? Like there's all these questions surrounding Who's the man at this point in time and and it's crazy because Volkanovsky as you mentioned has defended the belt a million times

He not so long ago was the number one pound for pound fighter on the planet as far as mixed martial arts is concerned. Um, just planet as far as mixed martial arts is concerned. Just the most respected guy you can find in mixed martial arts, right? He has a rough 2023 going to a one and two, losing twice to Islam maca shift in attempts to become a two division UFC champion by moving up to lightweight. But he does defend his belt at 145 pounds against Jair Rodriguez. So if we just erase what's happening a weight class above, the dude's had a spotless record, right? But he is 35 years old and I wanna throw out a stat out there.

You can throw that at the bar too, you look like a genius. Between 125 pounds and 170, which are considered the lighter weight classes, in title fights, fighters that are 35 or older are 4 and 31 and two of those wins Came on the women's side and two of those other wins came on the men's side But with one fighter Tyrone Woodley. Hmm Teword You look at the track record UZMAN so who do like all these greats that have fought for titles at 35 plus Doesn't I'm good statistically you do not do well. So stats are against

Volkanovsky here. He's coming off two losses in 2023. He's talked about the mental health issues. He was day drinking and had a bit of a spell right like if there's a time to pass the torch right if there's a time to fight Volkanovsky which there will never be a good time to fight him. It's a time to pass the torch, right? If there's a time to fight Volkanovsky, which there will never be a good time to fight him. It's always going to be a tough fight. It's now, and he's facing an undefeated, hungry, super confident somebody that already changed

his Instagram bio to UFC featherweight champion. I mean, he's got the movie coming out too. Yeah. Yeah. What's one of the things I love? Let's really quick give give people technical breakdowns for the last like two minutes here. Volkanovsky incredible on his feet, incredible on the ground. Dupodya the same thing. And you were there in person when he

flattened Josh Amit like 14 times. Yeah. And Josh Amit's a tough guy to bring down and he was just destroying him all fight He's great on the ground Greco Roman background great on his feet Like this is a clash of the Titans where both at both levels on the ground and on the feet They're excellent. Yes. This is like to terminator to like, you know Arnold was like that older version of the terminator And then you got the guy that's got the fluid metal. That's how it is It's like Ilya just seems like the 2.0 version But man that experience that that aura of greatness the fact that you've been there defended your belt You know, Arnold is Arnold right like

So I don't know man. This is this is a fantastic one. But yes, this is So I don't know man. This is this is a fantastic one. But yes, this is Ilya Toporyas by far the most well-rounded fighter that Volkanovsky has faced at 145 pounds. Ilya Toporyas way more Rounder than Ortega, then J. Rodriguez, then Holloway, you meant like whoever it is This is it. This is his toughest test and is coming at his most vulnerable point. They're both very, very skilled, very similar. I would say that Topuria is a bit more of a bruiser, likes to move forward, likes to

put on the pain. Volkanovsky is a bit more strategic, likes to pick his spots, his attacks, he's a little bit more finesse. But just a beautiful storyline and a beautiful matchup, just technically speaking really. What do you think we got less than a minute? Is the torch being passed down to Ilya Tapuria or is Volk gonna just dig deep and find some magic, some Volk magic from back in the day?

I'm going, I'm pushing all of my chips on the center of the table. And I think Ilya Tapuria going to be our featherweight champion. I'm going to back. I'm pushing them all into the middle right now. This is going to be, I feel like a war, a five round war where it feels like both fighters won. Both fighters are going to have respect for each other.

But in the end, I think he had to put is going to get his hand raised. I think he's I've listened to him on aerial show, just listening to things. He's talking. He's like, I've manifested this. I've seen this before. I'm going to get my hand raised and he's been right every single time. He's got the rose waiting for he's got a rose for every fighter that he's faced. He's got a rose. Yeah. He's got a little box. Like this is this is going to be one of the best fights of the year.

We can already say it's February and it's going to be one of the best fights in the year We can already say it's February and it's gonna be one of the best fights in the year And that's including 299 300 that the main event so hasn't been talked about like there's a lot of stuff to go You're yet in this year and this is the fight that I'm probably most excited for Danny Segura MMA junkie plug your stuff on the way up brother Yeah, check out my English work over at MMA junkie and my Spanish work out of lemus MMA Love it bro. A lot of good stuff on this card too. By the card.

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Don Lebatard Stugats This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats These five words in his head, to be my way when in games yet. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugas. Welcome back to the Tomahawk Show. We are talking the Super Bowl with JuJu Gotti. Here I am your host, Andrew Hawkins, aka Hawke, as always. Look, so we've seen the 49ers take the L against Patrick Mahomes. And of course, the conversation is going to be around everything that the 49ers did wrong. Specifically in this game, people

were up in arms around coach Kyle Shanahan's decision to take the ball first in overtime because they say it gave Patrick Mahomes an advantage because he went into that drive knowing what he needed to get. And it gave him essentially the thoughts that it was four down territory. So Juju, you tell me when you were watching the game and you hear the conversation, where do you fall on the spectrum as it pertains to Cal Shannon hands in game decision making bro he just got to keep it real bro he got to admit like bro i didn't know what was going on because the more you dig this hole you just dig him deeper and deeper we wanted about third bro you didn't pass your my home's over there you might not even get about a second you you've missed around with that boy so i think him you

check everybody they the same but we was right. You know what was going on, why the game was there. I can admit it. I seen the plot ticking down nine. I'm like, what is happening? Cause I wasn't listening to Tony Romo. Tony Romo for me, bro. It's hard for me to listen to Tony Romo over.

What Tony Romo taking shots man? What are you doing? Tony Romo need to calm down sometime. He be, I don't like his energy sometimes. I'm new to his ass. So I'm looking at the game like, what is happening? This boy got supreme confidence. So the rules with long story short, Kyle Shanahan, keep it real, bro.

You ain't know what was going on. That's my opinion. And the more you try to lie, now like you would try to have another plan. Nah, bro, come on home, bro. It's all right. You lost a Super Bowl. Yeah, right.

Just messed up. And look, I didn't I actually don't mind their decision to take the ball first. Here's why. If in the event, well, the more concerning thing was that other players didn't know the rules, right? And I didn't know the rules either. So I'm not pointing to figure, but I'm also not playing

in the Super Bowl, so whatever. But the fact that the players didn't know the rules is more of an issue than his decision to take the ball first. You know, you can say, OK, I wanted the ball third if we score or whatever. But I would also say that players, some players play better without the pressure on them. Right. Right. And if my homes goes down there and score, scores, maybe Brock Perty in this office isn't isn't as smooth. There are teams. There are players that play better whenever the press, the heat is not on. So in that respect, you got to know your team. I can't wait till players biometric data becomes public. And that's like when you see

players heart rate and you know, what's going on inside of them, like the game within the game, because as fans that will terminate the threes you're talking about. Yeah. So basically you wear like there's like wearables like watches or you know things that we will put in our chest that would measure your heart rate in a moment. So it could tell you when somebody is feeling the pressure and the people who are cold as ice their heart rate and pressure don't rise in the craziest situation. So in that moment we would be able to say like, yo, this dude is super nervous. Right. Absolutely. You don't he can't play. He plays better with there's no pressure on him.

That's a real thing. And that's like, again, the elements within the game. But we're probably a couple of seasons away from that. But I was okay with the fact that they took the ball first to be aggressive. But like I said, I'm not okay with the fact that the players had no idea about the overtime rules. And in their mind, they were going to go down there, score'm not okay with the fact that the players had no idea about the overtime rules and in their mind, they were going to go down there, score a touchdown and the game was going to be over and the playoffs with the new rule change. That is not the case. I say third and four though, their decision that that play that they backpedaling and

all out blitz almost at third and four. It doesn't seem like they was taking it as serious as I thought they were like, you posed a call to play your life in those situations. Even on fourth and fourth, that's Patrick Mahomes over there, bro. Like I feel like they could have, Kyle could have scammed them boys a little bit differently

in my opinion on the couch at home. I don't know how you do it though, man. I think that's the conundrum around Patrick Mahomes. I remember watching him on the shop years ago after his first Super Bowl and he told brawn and then they He's still learning how to read defenses and I was like, oh, that's cat But no, it wasn't because you could even see the way he plays now versus then Yeah, he knows even when he's improvising Exactly where the ball goes and there is just some players like these elite players who know a defense that well, and there's not a lot of them that could just

have a natural feel. Like if you've ever seen on the internet a baby who is two years old and knows how to read or like a three year old who can do like trigonometry. That's not something you can teach a two year old or a three year old. They just their brain composition in a perfect way was built for those things. Mathematics or reading in comprehension, like it's just luck of the draw. Their brainwaves and their mental makeup was perfectly composed for that. What I'm perfectly composed for is finding a hole in the defense. I can get the ball on my hand. I don't need to think about where I cut.

I never have. Like, and there's some people that do that. When you get to the NFL level, most of those guys are like that. I just feel it. I know where the holes are gonna be before they happen. And I so happen to have the quickness and speed to hit them, but it was just a field thing always for me.

Well- What I'm perfectly composed for? What you perfectly composed for, Jew? Picking the shopping cart at Target without the squeaky wheels on it. I can see it flying the right one. Gifted. Gifted from an early age.

So when it comes to Patrick Mahomes, he kind of has that. Like everyone's like, well, why is he so good? He's not, you know, super, doesn't seem super athletic. He's, you know, he's built like a gas station attendant. Well, he's perfectly born and composed to be able to throw a football and know, just have a feel for where the holes in the defense are. There's not very many quarterbacks like that. I would say Joe Burrow is like that. CJ Stroud has that ability. ROI staffer sometimes, but there's just very,

very few quarterbacks. Tom Brady obviously had it Aaron Rogers has it like they just always they just know I Know we got a log list of people that don't get it. There's my ridder is the leader of that Well, like I said so Patrick were Holmes you can't really game plan for him. And even late in the game when it's four from one, he's like, I'm just going to run it. And then he got that, that tick that, okay, they're not covering me. I'm just going to rush. That man rushed for 66 yards.

It's like one of his best rushing games ever in the Super Bowl simply because he knows, well, if you're taking this and this and this away, I know this is the answer. So until you guard this, I'm just going to do this. And once you try to take that away, I know where this whole opens back up most quarterbacks, even though they're NFL level, even though they might be incredible players, they don't have that in game ability that Patrick Mahomes has. And so I just, I'm reluctant. I feel like with Kyle Shanahan, the conversation, yes, team should have been prepared. Yes. You got to be perfect. But as we've watched him go through these moments, Tom Brady in the 28 to three lead,

the last time he played Patrick Mahomes, these double digit leads that he loses against these generational players, we're like just trying to find the littlest thing to point to of why the loss is there when the actual answer is, and he kind of alluded to it in a post game like, yo, it's my homings in Tom Brady. What the hell you expect me to do? If you know anybody out there that can do any better, please send them over because what the hell can you do against these players?

And I kind of feel the same way. I know what you could do in the third quarter, run the damn ball. I mean, I'm from the couch. You're already from the couch. I mean, look, bro, it was three years, two consecutive three and a half passing. There is like a, it's a damned if you do.

I watched NFL live and they talking about, yo, you needed to be more aggressive. Where, where was your big time place? When he played Tom Brady against the Falcons, it was, why weren't you still throwing the ball? Why were you running the ball so much? Why were you being too aggressive? You were trying to do too. And it's, you were too conservative. So you really are damned if you don't, damned if you do do because if he runs the ball and it doesn't work You're not being aggressive enough that you have to be aggressive against my homes when he's trying to be aggressive It's run the ball man. This is the game. Just kill the clock. What are you doing? And that's the whole point

I'm trying to make I think Cal Shanahan is an incredible coach. It's illustrated by how often he's in the NFC championship and in the Super Bowl but much like a lot of these quarterbacks in the AFC in the NFC championship and in the Super Bowl, but much like a lot of these quarterbacks in the AFC in the NFC, like Josh Allen would have been a Hall of Famer too soon already. So if he was born in another era, I'm sorry too soon. Joe Burrow, who knows what his career will be? I will say he's one of the few quarterbacks that stares down the barrel of the Pat Mahomes gun and he don't he don't Splinch at all. So who knows what will happen. But any of these quarterbacks would have already had Super Bowls if Patrick Mahomes was five years younger or five years older.

And Gal Shanahan how Shanahan would be in a conversation with Andy Reed and start to be in a Bill Belichickian type conversation if Patrick Mahomes didn't exist. But that's the nature of the business. I say if he would have been there, I think they would have won last year if, um, if purge didn't get hurt last year. I feel like they were more equipped to win last year, but neither here nor there. You say he damned if he do it, then if he don't, I tell you when he's not damned, if he finds a way to get the job done and win a Super Bowl. So if he do that, then he won't be damned and we'll get off his back. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully he can do that. How did you feel about Brock

Purdy's game? You feel like Brock Purdy, you know, a lot of conversation around Brock Purdy. Everybody act like he, you know, he was a plumber that they signed off the street. But I thought he played damn good in the Super Bowl. Right. I think he didn't lose them the game, which is what you want. Like he didn't throw the ball away. He didn't have any untimely fumbles. He didn't like make any bomb, bomb hair decisions. I feel like he was great in that game.

Maybe not great, but he did enough to win the game in that game. I don't I don't blame him at all for anything. So who do you blame? Who needed to play better in that game? And in your opinion, because it can't all be on couch at hand. That's the easy answer because he's the head coach. But I mean, I mean, there are some times where I feel like IU didn't get involved enough. A lot of the stuff that was timing right so with Debo was thrown off by McDuffie and them boys so it's like it was just a lot to compute like you said Rob Purdy may not have that computer installed just yet that passion my homes and they threw him so many different looks that it was kind of and then you got big Christian Jones in your face every night somebody please anybody

shoot him. So at some point, I think that the scheme around it was more valuable than the actual players in this scenario. We needed him. We needed George Gitter to have a big game. Right. We needed Debo Samuel to have a big game. You needed IU to have a big game. And the reality is for all the conversation

around Brock Purdy and them saying how he has so much talent that's around him and that's the reason for his success. He kind of was one of the only people to bring his A game and I would say McCaffrey obviously McCaffrey brought out and you know probably the heavier dose and Jennings. Jennings. Super MVP. Yeah. He was on his way. Oh my God. He was on his way. He was definitely on his way. This the green law when the green law thing happened. That's when I was like, okay, this just ain't their day. The fact that this happens in this way in the Super Bowl. Yeah, this would have happened in on a on any other field. Everyone will be talking about this

is why we got to get rid of the turf. I don't even know if that is grass. Is it is the Vegas field grass? Yeah, it was grass. It was. Yeah. You know how, you know how I know it's grass because I didn't see it. I didn't see a single tweet from anybody saying about how the NFL doesn't care about their players and they need to change their surfaces. Could you imagine that that took place on turf, bro? Oh my God, they would have been calling the. Roger Goodell was still being jailed today, bro. He would, he, they would have gave him life without parole in a five day period in Vegas. We would be fighting.

I would be out marching right now for Roger Goodell to get him out of prison. So I don't know. And man, man, I'm the wrong person to talk to because I always feel like that conversation is overstated by a bunch of people who it don't matter if you mean, I'm the wrong person to talk to because I always feel like that conversation is overstated by a bunch of people who it don't matter if you play on turf or grass. You was probably going to tell your Achilles anyway, because you ain't that level of athlete.

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