The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Pre-Internet
Episode Date: October 24, 2024Mike Ryan has a Thursday Thunder for Thursday Night Football, and it's a doozy because of the amount of injuries facing these teams. Then, political texts, class-action lawsuit payouts, and canceling ...your TV subscription. Plus, the Soto Shuffle has turned Tony into "Tony Pinstripes," Dan is being brought back to childhood with how excited he is for this year's World Series, and, before we get to Gen CFB next hour, Miami's FSU Week has Mike fired up about Cam Ward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hit me with another spare, Roy.
I don't think Roy's enthusiasm is what it needs to be.
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Roy sounded somewhere between bored and indifferent
as Jessica ate.
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Mike, take it away.
Thank you for your enthusiasm there
because this one needs it because, look, hey,
it's a good game, it's a solid game,
but there are a lot of variables here
that aren't conducive to making this segment happen
in the morning.
So there's a lot of questionable dudes out there like TJ Hawkinson,
is he going to play Cooper cup? Is he going to play that kind of changes things?
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Ain't to close this I
Told you this is a doozy. Why are you laughing Tony?
It was hard not only was it difficult,
if Cooper cup does end up playing and if Pooka Nakua who's also questioned was
up playing, then we're kind of cooked kind of cooked,
but we don't know yet because it hasn't been released.
The good thing about to and demarcus Robinson is all you need is one play
right with those guys. They usually stretch the field. And finally,
in closing Jalen nailer, 25 yards or over receiving.
You love Naylor. You've been bet... I barely know her.
You've been betting Naylor all season. You love prop bets. It seems to me you've been doing well on prop bets.
I've been doing alright. The super followers have been eaten. Not as well as Jess, but eaten. Jessica looks like she has put together a very
nice breakfast, lunch, healthy. Is there some avocado in there? That seems the
gluten-free. Yes, that seems you've put together all the right combinations.
I wanted that. Gluten-free avocado. I wanted to ask, that's not the gluten-free
part. The whole gluten-free bread is what she's doing there on the avocado toast.
The thing that I wanted to ask you guys,
because Izzy just knocked me.
Really, Izzy knocked me off of my center the moment
that he decided to answer the door in his underwear.
I don't understand why he's doing that.
And so, like, it's you.
Can we tell people that I didn't actually answer any door
here in my underwear?
I just do that to the Uber Eats who knock on my door box a brief sky or a brief sky depends
It seems to me like the pins guy
Option C it seems to me like that should be a crime to answer the door in your underwear
When an uber driver is approaching not if you put together like this guy
No, I think that makes it even more criminal, I would say.
Not less criminal.
The thing that I wanted to ask you guys is this,
are either of these things happening to you right now?
Are you, and I don't know which one might be happening worse,
are you getting inundated more by political texts
that are just burying your phone
or invitations to join class action suits?
No, it's the political taxes.
It's the silly season right now.
So it's just flooding in.
Yeah, and it's not ones that I typically agree with
because I'm still a registered Republican.
So the way that I scream representative,
I scream in caps stop.
But I have joined a class action lawsuit as well.
And I got quite a hefty little payout on one.
I had a thought yesterday that I was early voting.
What if you could opt out of all political ads
and text messages if you early voted?
Because we're gonna have a couple more weeks of this.
And right now, doesn't affect me anymore.
I'm not changing my vote. It's too late
Dan also willow's crying because she wants my smoked salmon
my friend received a
Hefty payout from a class-action lawsuit settlement with jewel last week and I singer
The vapes that were accused of marketing
The singer? The vapes that were accused of marketing themselves.
Oh, that's true.
I was going to say it, because she lived in her car for once.
That's kind of sinister.
I get emails from random law firms
sometimes telling me to sign up for a class action lawsuit.
I got one for a software company a few weeks ago.
And my thought is always, well, I've
been conditioned my whole life to not reply to these emails
in case they're like phishing emails, right?
Because how would they have gotten my email address
and I don't wanna give them my information and all this.
But my friend got 600 bucks last week from Jewel.
Whoa! Wow!
And I saw some people got like $3,000.
Now those people were probably using a lot of Jewel pods.
But that's a not insignificant amount of money.
I got, so, a streaming service that I signed up for,
I'll protect these people, I won't say it.
It was Shutter.
And they had a data, they use your data
for something that wasn't disclosed in the terms.
And I vetted the email, I Googled, is this a real thing?
And it was like, join this class action lawsuit.
And I'm like, well, I don't like them
giving up my data for something that I don't like them giving up my data
for something that I didn't say they could have my data for.
So I opted in.
Several months later, got a payout.
$8.64 direct deposit.
So with the class action lawsuit,
I'm just trying to do some mental math here.
Do you have to prove that you smoked, Jewel?
Do you have to have receipts?
What's the deal with that?
Can I join, even though I didn't smoke them,
and be like, I need it, for sure?
I'm not exactly sure how it works,
but I think they perhaps identify customers prior
to the settlement.
And then you're eligible for it if you've purchased it.
What if I bought in cash?
No trace?
Legal tender?
It's the same thing with the metal class action lawsuit.
That was $725 million that people signed up for and it's been delayed, the payout has
been delayed.
But that's what I'm always thinking when I see these things.
It's like, I'm going to get a $5 check.
I don't need to go through with this.
I don't want my name to be involved in something.
But Jess's friend, was it Charlotte?
Priya.
Priya, excuse me.
I don't know what the amount was, did you say the amount?
600 bucks, and according to the New York Times,
if you didn't have a receipt,
your recovery was capped at $300.
That's still a lot of money.
Free 300 bucks there, Dan.
I wanna be friends with the person
that kept a receipt for a jewel they got several years ago.
I think that we have more commonalities
than we think in a divided America and I think that these things
I'm about to say or so, okay
I think we all sort of react to class-action invitation suits that way which is with skepticism
Are they trying to get my information? What's happening here? Should I join?
Maybe maybe not everyone is skeptical about this
But there's so much happening right now in content consumption and how, what people reach you.
They have all of your information.
They want more of your information.
I also think another place that we have a connection point,
you tell me if I'm wrong about this,
because it came up earlier,
the seven day trial now that streaming services have,
no matter your amount of money,
you are, you're hesitant to check in on the seven day trial
because you don't trust yourself to cancel
within seven days and you're a little scared
that too many people are bombarding you
from too many different ways trying to get your 9.99
and I think we all have this stuff in common as humans
and I think we need to concentrate
in these next 12 days especially
on the places that we have in common as humans.
Stugass has to be an expert on that trial situation.
He knows exactly when to get out of there. I think this is the only reason for have in common as humans. Stugas has to be an expert on that trial situation.
He knows exactly when to get out of there.
I think this is the only reason for calendars
to still exist.
You have to mark it down when you had started
your free trial and when you have to cancel it.
I'm a fan of ordering and canceling immediately,
but even then sometimes I forget.
So you've gotta mark it down.
I believe one time I realized I was paying for showtime
for like six straight months and I was like, mark it down. I believe one time I realized I was paying for showtime for like six straight months
And I was like dang it. I missed that one
I bought our TV recently and best buy did this thing where like if you bought a TV online you can get Apple
TV for three months for free you just have to sign up for and I was like oh perfect
I can watch bad monkey like there's a couple new shows slow horse
I want to get into but the problem is I was like two months ago
I didn't write down exactly when I needed to cancel. That's how they get you So now I'm like damn they have all my information because I have an iPhone and like everything's hooked up through my Apple ID
I don't exactly know when to cancel so I don't know if I should cancel it now and just get rid of it or
Actually get into the shows be able to watch it and then can't well
Can we start a class-action lawsuit against Apple TV because Mike informed me the other day that MLS is now free with the Apple
Subscription I've paid for that damn thing for two seasons now.
I'm pretty sure for this season as well.
We're a content company.
We really can't be suing anybody.
In fact, I just cooked a doc
I was trying to pitch to shutter.
I did see that the FTC was trying to create a new rule
that it would be easier to cancel things.
One click, yeah.
Yeah, click to cancel.
So if you had a gym membership,
have you guys ever had to go through leaps and bounds
to cancel a gym membership?
Why would you cancel a gym membership?
Because you move out of the state.
Is he?
Mr. Pumping Irons all the time?
You gotta get the national membership.
That's why you get the national.
Mr. Soul Cycle, Date Goer.
Mr. Answers the Door on Uber drivers in his underwear.
Knock on my door, man.
You are strong, we get it.
You have big muscles.
We get us, show us your bell button.
I want two questions for you guys to answer here.
I want to know what it is that will make you,
what will tempt you enough to ignore your disorganization
and calendars and sign up for the seven day trial
because damn it, I have to see that now
and I cannot wait and I don't want my access denied
because one of the key things in sales
is deny people something they really want
to make it something and they'll want it more.
And that's how you pay for Panthers Plus.
And that's how you get stuck with that stuff
and also and harder to come by
and it's why newspapers are dead. What what makes you what's an article that makes you need it so much
that you're gonna subscribe behind a paywall because did you I did it today
there was a New York Times opinion piece and it was but say anti-Trump even though
it was just factual and I signed up because I was like, okay, that is a free trial I can go for.
I think it was like a dollar a week for like six months.
So it's $4 a month.
And I'm like, you know what?
I don't really trust the New York Times,
but I will give them $4 a month.
Yeah, it would have to be digital newspapers on that one.
Like all the important news.
Although I do believe that all the election stuff,
all the election articles should be free for the public.
I will say though, article, not that good. So they got you. They got your ass. Yeah articles should be free for the public. I will say though
Article not that good. So they got you they got you. Yeah, they got me for four bucks
You you got suckered I think on something that you have a lower threshold than most I think I think Tony's gonna be the toughest one in here and to get a single dollar from him anywhere
With I would say I would say maybe maybe fantasy football stuff. Like there's there's some specific websites that have like a little bit more
Analytical kind of info that I would like to see because the problem is they don't give that away
It's behind the paywall, but I've also learned how to skirt out of that too
So I would pay for that, but I have some people that have hooked me up shout out to my boy Adam by the way
Jessica where is it that you might get?
That's the only one just murder she wrote on CBS. I figured you already had CBS
I figured that you you brought their demo down you are by 60 years the lowest of the demo in
On CBS and murder she I'm at the end of season one right now
It's really remarkable how Jessica Fletcher just becomes such an overnight sensation.
No one's ever heard of her,
and then her debut novel comes out,
and all of a sudden, the whole world,
people recognize her walking down the street in Manhattan.
It's crazy.
Do you have any connection point with people your age
on something like Columbo?
Like, do you run into anybody else your age
who actually wants to discuss your desire
to watch Columbo, the old 1970s detective show,
pre-internet?
My sister?
So that's it, right?
There's nobody.
Your interests here.
Willow, she'll talk to me about it.
Your interest in CBS programming at your age
is super strange.
You're not finding connection points
with anybody else here your age, correct?
Well, more people wanna talk about Colombo
than baseball, Dan, so.
Well, I've got that problem,
because Jeremy, I'm with you on this.
I'm with you on this.
Why did they wait till Friday, man?
If it started yesterday, I would have been in.
I would have watched the first two games, no doubt.
But they're starting this on a Friday.
I got things to do.
Saturday's Miami.
Billy was saying that all week.
Billy was saying on Monday,
baseball, you cannot wait until Friday here.
You have the stage this week.
You could have grabbed it.
Nobody cares about the Rams Thursday night game.
Give people Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani.
Few people might have Thursday Thunder on.
Exactly right.
I think I have a connection point to Giancarlo Stanton Give people Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani. I don't know about that. A few people might have Thursday Thunder on. Exactly right.
I think I have a connection point to Giancarlo Stanton
because he was a Marlin and I really want to see him win,
but I'm so detached from baseball that Mike,
Mike Ryan Ruiz, called Giancarlo Stanton Mike Stanton
recently and I was like, oh yeah, that was his name.
And I didn't even remember that.
And I was a fan of him at the time.
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Did someone say conservative entity?
Wow!
No!
What?
Oh, see this is why.
Stugats.
Hers is better than mine.
In the fifth Seagacki.
How is the fifth Seagacki better than the third and the fourth Seagaki already?
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the StuGuardz.
This World Series to me, it's pre-internet.
It conjures a time pre-internet for me nostalgically that gets touched so infrequently
by sports these days because we're consuming so much of it and it is a bombardment where
hey look can we get to the WNBA championship in the middle of a football Sunday? How do
we forget about college football already on saturday because all of this programming is inundating you
and i'm telling you this world series brings me back to a child when it was
the most amazing thing in the world
that i could watch these two teams on my television play baseball
because i didn't have access to everything and everything national
wasn't regional and everything regional wasn't national
i'm telling you that this world series for me harkens a childlike innocence
about my sports fandom
where i'm like all shit
i get all the baseball
the best of the baseball and none of the randomness they got all of the bullshit
out here
and it's just the two teams that spend the most, who want my dollars the most,
and I'm like, oh my God, this is not how I viewed sports
when I was nine years old.
But doesn't Miami FSU do that for you too?
No.
Because it's on at the same time.
Yeah, that's the problem.
That's, honestly, that's super cute,
and if I may break character for a second,
I'm very excited for this World Series,
and I'm wondering if Marlins fans will feel
more upset if the Yankees win it given the Marlins connection to several players
And if so that could be a reason for me to root for the Yankees perhaps
This is the best storyline in the World Series Miguel Rojas against Jazz Chisholm, Jr
It's unbelievable the bitter bitter rivalry between those two players.
I saw a video of Roas explaining how to hit Tohutani.
I'm like, I'm out on this guy.
I think I've made my selection on who I'm going to back in the World
Series.
El Alpha, obviously Dembeau Legend out of DR,
has a song called The Soto Shuffle.
So I think I'm siding with the Yankees, Tony Pinstripes.
Tony Pinstripes.
Tony Pinstripes?
Dan, what is it about the actual game?
It's the stars, right?
I get the names, but during the game,
are you like wowed by pitches?
Are you enamored with a certain swing that a guy?
Well, what I would say to you is that baseball has gotten
to such a ridiculous skill level
that when I'm watching Juan Soto bat
I'm watching somebody who's got a plate discipline that I don't understand because everybody who's throwing baseballs three inches outside the strike zone
Is throwing 98 miles an hour and so the expertise I'm watching is
better baseball players by leaps and bounds than any I've ever seen because of where the science of the game has gotten to and
than any I've ever seen because of where the science of the game has gotten to and
These guys are all or nothing about whether or not they can hit a home run on that
102 pitch that Stanton gets don't understand why anyone doesn't just throw it low and outside on him outside the strike It drives me don't understand how he ever hits an o and to a home run because he should swing and miss by six feet
He's so easy to pitch to, it seems like to me.
Well, I think that that's why,
if you weren't a baseball, just seam head growing up,
you might not have that connection point
because you're looking on the screen.
You don't know the storylines.
You're just looking on the screen for something
to keep me entertained.
And the other day I was watching, you know,
three TVs on whatever bottom left corner.
And Anthony, who does not watch baseball at all,
but played baseball, just kind of caught a pitch on the corner of his eye and it's
like holy crap that was a ridiculous pitch and I was like it's just kind of sort of
sparked a little light bulb over my head I was like well if you actually watch these
days you might see that all the time and be enamored by it and just fall in love with
the sport.
The reason, look I've said this before about baseball it's always been my favorite sport it was my
favorite sport growing up and i was buying all those baseball abstracts
because i was trying to figure out how it is they measured value in that sport
as i've watched sports over the last thirty years two things that have
happened in basketball and football is those two people are so good at what
they're doing and the way that they strategize that i don't have a
way to keep up with what eric spolster is doing is too complicated for me i
don't totally understand what mike mcdaniel is doing
but in baseball i have a decent idea because of how they've done the
measurement over the last thirty years
of what the manager is doing and so what I'm appreciating about baseball is this thing I've always loved has gotten
to a skill level where all of the same, all of the people have all of the information
they need so that what used to be a line drive over second base, now the shortstop's always
there because these people know how to play them scientifically and have all sorts of
probabilities on where a ball is going to be hit.
The expertise I'm watching in baseball, to have the two best teams play it
to have both pitching staff sort of broken so the home run hitters can be
home run hitters
it makes it a world series for all time like it
for me to watch it in
my love of baseball is such that this one has the story lines and all the soap
opera stuff
and all of the excellence in mike santon can hit a home run once every four at
bats because that he's made of materials and muscles that have perfected that
sport
and made the evolution of it such
that that i can always hit a ball four hundred and fifty feet or strikeout
missing a pitch by six feet.
It's also interesting watching the chess match between managers because they have
to deal with the rule changes now with pitchers having to face three batters
minimum. Like that's really interesting. The relievers are now all throwing like
the All-Stars you saw through your childhood and if not they're even
nastier and so now you have this combination where it feels like, particularly with these two
teams and the stars that are across each lineup, like you're watching an all-star game every
time because every inning you're turning around and there's another guy throwing 101 miles
an hour with a two-foot break on a two-seam and then hooking a slider around the other
corner and he's going up against one of the greatest hitters you've ever seen.
This World Series is just so full of talent.
We just saw Barack Obama say that the NBA All-Star game has lost it.
This is an All-Star game in baseball for all the Moccas.
It actually means something.
Yeah, but it's a get-right game for the Trojans because Lincoln Riley's been having a rough
year and you can't lose to Rutgers at home They haven't won a game since they beat Wisconsin
38 to 21 in like week four and some people are saying beating Wisconsin might be a program killer because look at what happened Alabama
I wish the World Series has started tonight
But if it had Tony and Mike would be arguing about Cooper Cup instead of watching was he gonna play or is he not gonna play?
I'm gonna trade him? What's going on?
Here's what's gonna happen.
Where's Puka?
I'm gonna channel surf,
I'm gonna land on the World Series
and I'm gonna realize, oh this is fun
and I'm only gonna like it
when the Yankees play the Dodgers.
Lakers Suns is that night too I think.
Ooh.
I mean UNLV and Boise, if you want.
Gentie's much watched TV.
If you want to watch a quick preview of that on Gen CFPB
Oh, Jazz!
Who's Jazz?
It was so much easier when it was foot!
And Lucy was off this week so Gojo came on and we did a preview of that
A little Notre Dame and Navy preview
He's been in that rivalry before
He's played in that game No, he's played in that game.
No one else you'd rather hear of.
We have two CFP eliminators this week.
CFP?
Yes, this was the argument, those two guys,
oh I don't want all these mega conferences
because people like to make the argument,
less good games, that's what I like.
So we have two games that are essentially CFP eliminators,
Boise, UNLV, three and a half point spread there.
Gentie, spotlight game.
And you also have Missouri versus Alabama,
CFP eliminator game.
The playoffs do exist in the regular season
the way that they existed before.
They just have like two losses in the L column.
Okay, that's a better pivot and that's a sacrifice
that we make to get games like Ohio State at Oregon.
I'll give you one more, Vanderbilt, Texas.
I mean, put the kids to sleep for that one.
What are you covering in Gen CFB?
The CFP.
The reason that I asked the question is because
I wanted to know whether we have coverage in today's show
of hashtag FSU week or not.
Do we have coverage in today's show on why it is
and where it is, hashtag FSU Week is trending?
Not gonna lie, we haven't talked a lot
about the Miami Hurricanes on Gen CFB this year.
Why's that?
Because they've been winning,
because there's really been nothing interesting
to talk about, and we already talk about them enough
on this show, so Mike, take it away.
How do we know we don't? We don't talk about them on this show. So Mike, take it away. We don't. We don't.
We don't talk about them on this show.
And it's plenty.
I had to buy into another company
to be able to talk about the Miami Hurricanes football team.
But yeah, we don't talk about them
because they're winning and doing their job.
But FSU, historically, always means something,
even when those two programs are middling.
One of them is, well, not even middling.
They're bottoming.
Hey-o.
So nobody's with me that Gentie has an unfair advantage
at home games because he's camouflaged into the field?
No, I like that take.
I think if I'm Travis Hunter,
that's what I'm going with for the rest of the season.
Miami's wearing black uniforms.
They have that black backdrop on the field.
Keep an eye on extra interceptions.
Let me talk about this for a second, Mike,
because it is going to get in the way of my World Series viewing because yes UMFSU
still does mean something to me. UMFSU week still does mean something. Oh I get
it now. To me because we have Bobby Bowden these two programs fought at the
top of the sport
they were alabama and georgia before alabama and georgia and it harkens to a
different time
uh... but whether we've talked enough about miami or not i believe the general
national perception on miami given the way the games have gone is some form of
they haven't played anybody i don't believe in that undefeated even though
they can score against anybody because their quarterback is obviously elite. Earlier
this week and I didn't hear from you on this and I am curious and I'm curious
what Jessica has to say about this as well. Earlier this week I said having
seen all of the University of Miami quarterbacks Jim Kelly, Gino Toretta
they've had the three first-round picks it's Bernie Konisar, Vinnie Testaverde
and Jim Kelly are the first-round picks its bernie conas are vini testiverty and jim kelly are the first round picks
i said cam ward's the best quarterback college quarterback in their history
doesn't mean he'll be the best pro
statistically it's going to be in arguably is going to break the all the
records we have to do new math for new offensive evolution but at the position
and i don't even know if just remembers once upon a time allegedly the
university of miami was called quarterback you and I don't even know if Jess remembers, once upon a time, allegedly, the University of Miami
was called quarterback U.
Yeah, two Heisman Trophy winners at the position.
This is the best quarterback that they've ever had
playing statistically in college.
It cannot be argued.
It's not even close.
How much of the math do I have to alter
for today's offense to dilute that
because I don't think anyone can object to what I'm saying even though
Kim Ward as a professional talent is maybe he's a number one maybe he's a
first-round pick but I don't think of him as a pro the way I'm watching him
play in college and saying that's among the best college quarterbacks I've ever
seen Jamis Winston Danny Werfel whatever it is you do with system, time and place,
that guy can make offense against anybody.
When you had the take, it kind of summed me a little bit
because I hadn't heard like a traditional media star
come out with that take.
I've seen people on the internet venture into a forum
and say, I think he's the best Miami quarterback
of all time.
And it's an interesting rhetorical trick
because Miami has, even though they've won five Natty's,
they haven't had, and they've had two Heisman Trophy winners,
they aren't really known as a school
that's put out great quarterbacks despite that QBU thing.
Those aren't guys that did much in the NFL.
Trestavarti took them off.
They're surrounded by talent.
Trestavarti was arguably a bust
until he figured it out later in his career.
I actually think you're on to something,
because this quarterback will, in all likelihood,
get drafted in the upper first round.
He's only 13 touchdowns away, 13 passing touchdowns away,
from setting the combined FBS, FCS, NCAA record
for passing touchdowns.
Jeremy and I broke down that there's a scenario in which
Dylan Gabriel and K Cam Ward can meet up
in the playoffs, later in the playoffs,
and not only have that game at stake,
but also the all-time passing record combined FCS, FBS
on the line as well.
I think you're kinda right.
Ken Dorsey, here's where you can push back on.
For me, Tessa Verde, it's hard to not hold against him
that interception performance that he had against Penn State.
But that team did win.
In the National Championship game,
he threw five interceptions.
Jimmy Johnson's greatest regret as a coach
is that he didn't run the ball more in that game.
So Tessa Verde, for me, Kozart, Tessa Verde, Dorsey,
that's the top tier of Miami football.
I think if Miami turns this thing around,
gets to the CFP, perhaps wins an ACC championship,
then you can invoke that.
But I think the position at Miami is so tied
to success on the field, not just individual success,
that he has to do things like get to New York
for the Heisman ceremony and has to do some winning
for Miami to be in that class.
Well, I will tell you, because I think the national perception of this is simply Miami
has not played anybody.
So I reduce all of what those stats are.
I don't care that statistically he's putting up more big games to start a career back to
back to back than anyone has ever done.
It's fair.
It's a fair criticism of Miami.
I'll concede that.
Their schedule hasn't put up a fight in the ways
that you would hope when you saw it line up.
The way that Vinnie Testaverde though won the Heisman Trophy is he had one play in a
game against Oklahoma that everyone saw. His shoulder pad came out. Everyone saw him beat
Oklahoma. Cam has five of those a game.
Right. And that's what I was going to say about this team and those other quarterbacks.
And I don't know if I'm just doing this
because I'm not as familiar with the skill position
players now that I was when these other quarterbacks played.
But watching the games, this is where you can't just look
at the box score, it feels like Cam is leading them.
It feels like those yards are gained
because he is extending a play, finding a receiver,
making just the right play at the right time,
leading that group, and he just feels more
Responsible for the success than some of those other quarterbacks who again were just had talent all around them
They went from QB you to tight end you for a little bit because of the shock
I'm so surprised that one's it's interesting with cam in that a lot of his great moments
Is he's digging himself out of a hole that he dug himself?
and he's he's digging himself out of a hole that he dug himself. And he's going
to be a perplexing person for NFL front offices to break down because even in that Louisville
game he missed two wide open house calls on like nine yard slants. And then he turns around
and throws that ball well into the back of the end zone, kind of like that play that
he had at Gainesville week one. He might get a GM fired, but a team is going to totally
fall in love with his ability to not quit and make these
Unbelievable throws to the canes live in the same spot that we had the Dolphins in last year
We're like any hole I feel like I trust the canes to get out of it
Hmm, did we say that about the Dolphins last year? Yeah, where the Dolphins could be down 14. You're like, okay
No biggie, their offense was good enough. Yeah, I think
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