The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Pre-Internet

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Mike Ryan has a Thursday Thunder for Thursday Night Football, and it's a doozy because of the amount of injuries facing these teams. Then, political texts, class-action lawsuit payouts, and canceling ...your TV subscription. Plus, the Soto Shuffle has turned Tony into "Tony Pinstripes," Dan is being brought back to childhood with how excited he is for this year's World Series, and, before we get to Gen CFB next hour, Miami's FSU Week has Mike fired up about Cam Ward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Alright it is time for Thursday Thunder which is brought to you by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Mike, take it away. Hit me with another spare, Roy. I don't think Roy's enthusiasm is what it needs to be. This is a sponsored segment.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 DraftKings, the crown is yours. Mike, take it away. Thank you for your enthusiasm there because this one needs it because, look, hey, it's a good game, it's a solid game, but there are a lot of variables here that aren't conducive to making this segment happen in the morning.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So there's a lot of questionable dudes out there like TJ Hawkinson, is he going to play Cooper cup? Is he going to play that kind of changes things? So we really scoured the props available here on DraftKings Sportsbook. And this is what we cooked up at plus 500, a three pick parlay. We're going to Marcus Robinson over 26 and a half yards receding. Who's he played for? The the Rams pretty sure he's a ram Then we're going to to at well over 37 and a half yards receiving
Starting point is 00:02:37 Ain't to close this I Told you this is a doozy. Why are you laughing Tony? It was hard not only was it difficult, if Cooper cup does end up playing and if Pooka Nakua who's also questioned was up playing, then we're kind of cooked kind of cooked, but we don't know yet because it hasn't been released. The good thing about to and demarcus Robinson is all you need is one play right with those guys. They usually stretch the field. And finally,
Starting point is 00:03:02 in closing Jalen nailer, 25 yards or over receiving. You love Naylor. You've been bet... I barely know her. You've been betting Naylor all season. You love prop bets. It seems to me you've been doing well on prop bets. I've been doing alright. The super followers have been eaten. Not as well as Jess, but eaten. Jessica looks like she has put together a very nice breakfast, lunch, healthy. Is there some avocado in there? That seems the gluten-free. Yes, that seems you've put together all the right combinations. I wanted that. Gluten-free avocado. I wanted to ask, that's not the gluten-free part. The whole gluten-free bread is what she's doing there on the avocado toast.
Starting point is 00:03:46 The thing that I wanted to ask you guys, because Izzy just knocked me. Really, Izzy knocked me off of my center the moment that he decided to answer the door in his underwear. I don't understand why he's doing that. And so, like, it's you. Can we tell people that I didn't actually answer any door here in my underwear?
Starting point is 00:04:04 I just do that to the Uber Eats who knock on my door box a brief sky or a brief sky depends It seems to me like the pins guy Option C it seems to me like that should be a crime to answer the door in your underwear When an uber driver is approaching not if you put together like this guy No, I think that makes it even more criminal, I would say. Not less criminal. The thing that I wanted to ask you guys is this, are either of these things happening to you right now?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Are you, and I don't know which one might be happening worse, are you getting inundated more by political texts that are just burying your phone or invitations to join class action suits? No, it's the political taxes. It's the silly season right now. So it's just flooding in. Yeah, and it's not ones that I typically agree with
Starting point is 00:04:55 because I'm still a registered Republican. So the way that I scream representative, I scream in caps stop. But I have joined a class action lawsuit as well. And I got quite a hefty little payout on one. I had a thought yesterday that I was early voting. What if you could opt out of all political ads and text messages if you early voted?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because we're gonna have a couple more weeks of this. And right now, doesn't affect me anymore. I'm not changing my vote. It's too late Dan also willow's crying because she wants my smoked salmon my friend received a Hefty payout from a class-action lawsuit settlement with jewel last week and I singer The vapes that were accused of marketing The singer? The vapes that were accused of marketing themselves.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, that's true. I was going to say it, because she lived in her car for once. That's kind of sinister. I get emails from random law firms sometimes telling me to sign up for a class action lawsuit. I got one for a software company a few weeks ago. And my thought is always, well, I've been conditioned my whole life to not reply to these emails
Starting point is 00:06:05 in case they're like phishing emails, right? Because how would they have gotten my email address and I don't wanna give them my information and all this. But my friend got 600 bucks last week from Jewel. Whoa! Wow! And I saw some people got like $3,000. Now those people were probably using a lot of Jewel pods. But that's a not insignificant amount of money.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I got, so, a streaming service that I signed up for, I'll protect these people, I won't say it. It was Shutter. And they had a data, they use your data for something that wasn't disclosed in the terms. And I vetted the email, I Googled, is this a real thing? And it was like, join this class action lawsuit. And I'm like, well, I don't like them
Starting point is 00:06:44 giving up my data for something that I don't like them giving up my data for something that I didn't say they could have my data for. So I opted in. Several months later, got a payout. $8.64 direct deposit. So with the class action lawsuit, I'm just trying to do some mental math here. Do you have to prove that you smoked, Jewel?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Do you have to have receipts? What's the deal with that? Can I join, even though I didn't smoke them, and be like, I need it, for sure? I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I think they perhaps identify customers prior to the settlement. And then you're eligible for it if you've purchased it.
Starting point is 00:07:19 What if I bought in cash? No trace? Legal tender? It's the same thing with the metal class action lawsuit. That was $725 million that people signed up for and it's been delayed, the payout has been delayed. But that's what I'm always thinking when I see these things. It's like, I'm going to get a $5 check.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I don't need to go through with this. I don't want my name to be involved in something. But Jess's friend, was it Charlotte? Priya. Priya, excuse me. I don't know what the amount was, did you say the amount? 600 bucks, and according to the New York Times, if you didn't have a receipt,
Starting point is 00:07:49 your recovery was capped at $300. That's still a lot of money. Free 300 bucks there, Dan. I wanna be friends with the person that kept a receipt for a jewel they got several years ago. I think that we have more commonalities than we think in a divided America and I think that these things I'm about to say or so, okay
Starting point is 00:08:09 I think we all sort of react to class-action invitation suits that way which is with skepticism Are they trying to get my information? What's happening here? Should I join? Maybe maybe not everyone is skeptical about this But there's so much happening right now in content consumption and how, what people reach you. They have all of your information. They want more of your information. I also think another place that we have a connection point, you tell me if I'm wrong about this,
Starting point is 00:08:34 because it came up earlier, the seven day trial now that streaming services have, no matter your amount of money, you are, you're hesitant to check in on the seven day trial because you don't trust yourself to cancel within seven days and you're a little scared that too many people are bombarding you from too many different ways trying to get your 9.99
Starting point is 00:08:52 and I think we all have this stuff in common as humans and I think we need to concentrate in these next 12 days especially on the places that we have in common as humans. Stugass has to be an expert on that trial situation. He knows exactly when to get out of there. I think this is the only reason for have in common as humans. Stugas has to be an expert on that trial situation. He knows exactly when to get out of there. I think this is the only reason for calendars
Starting point is 00:09:08 to still exist. You have to mark it down when you had started your free trial and when you have to cancel it. I'm a fan of ordering and canceling immediately, but even then sometimes I forget. So you've gotta mark it down. I believe one time I realized I was paying for showtime for like six straight months and I was like, mark it down. I believe one time I realized I was paying for showtime for like six straight months
Starting point is 00:09:25 And I was like dang it. I missed that one I bought our TV recently and best buy did this thing where like if you bought a TV online you can get Apple TV for three months for free you just have to sign up for and I was like oh perfect I can watch bad monkey like there's a couple new shows slow horse I want to get into but the problem is I was like two months ago I didn't write down exactly when I needed to cancel. That's how they get you So now I'm like damn they have all my information because I have an iPhone and like everything's hooked up through my Apple ID I don't exactly know when to cancel so I don't know if I should cancel it now and just get rid of it or Actually get into the shows be able to watch it and then can't well
Starting point is 00:09:57 Can we start a class-action lawsuit against Apple TV because Mike informed me the other day that MLS is now free with the Apple Subscription I've paid for that damn thing for two seasons now. I'm pretty sure for this season as well. We're a content company. We really can't be suing anybody. In fact, I just cooked a doc I was trying to pitch to shutter. I did see that the FTC was trying to create a new rule
Starting point is 00:10:21 that it would be easier to cancel things. One click, yeah. Yeah, click to cancel. So if you had a gym membership, have you guys ever had to go through leaps and bounds to cancel a gym membership? Why would you cancel a gym membership? Because you move out of the state.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Is he? Mr. Pumping Irons all the time? You gotta get the national membership. That's why you get the national. Mr. Soul Cycle, Date Goer. Mr. Answers the Door on Uber drivers in his underwear. Knock on my door, man. You are strong, we get it.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You have big muscles. We get us, show us your bell button. I want two questions for you guys to answer here. I want to know what it is that will make you, what will tempt you enough to ignore your disorganization and calendars and sign up for the seven day trial because damn it, I have to see that now and I cannot wait and I don't want my access denied
Starting point is 00:11:10 because one of the key things in sales is deny people something they really want to make it something and they'll want it more. And that's how you pay for Panthers Plus. And that's how you get stuck with that stuff and also and harder to come by and it's why newspapers are dead. What what makes you what's an article that makes you need it so much that you're gonna subscribe behind a paywall because did you I did it today
Starting point is 00:11:34 there was a New York Times opinion piece and it was but say anti-Trump even though it was just factual and I signed up because I was like, okay, that is a free trial I can go for. I think it was like a dollar a week for like six months. So it's $4 a month. And I'm like, you know what? I don't really trust the New York Times, but I will give them $4 a month. Yeah, it would have to be digital newspapers on that one.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Like all the important news. Although I do believe that all the election stuff, all the election articles should be free for the public. I will say though, article, not that good. So they got you. They got your ass. Yeah articles should be free for the public. I will say though Article not that good. So they got you they got you. Yeah, they got me for four bucks You you got suckered I think on something that you have a lower threshold than most I think I think Tony's gonna be the toughest one in here and to get a single dollar from him anywhere With I would say I would say maybe maybe fantasy football stuff. Like there's there's some specific websites that have like a little bit more Analytical kind of info that I would like to see because the problem is they don't give that away
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's behind the paywall, but I've also learned how to skirt out of that too So I would pay for that, but I have some people that have hooked me up shout out to my boy Adam by the way Jessica where is it that you might get? That's the only one just murder she wrote on CBS. I figured you already had CBS I figured that you you brought their demo down you are by 60 years the lowest of the demo in On CBS and murder she I'm at the end of season one right now It's really remarkable how Jessica Fletcher just becomes such an overnight sensation. No one's ever heard of her,
Starting point is 00:13:08 and then her debut novel comes out, and all of a sudden, the whole world, people recognize her walking down the street in Manhattan. It's crazy. Do you have any connection point with people your age on something like Columbo? Like, do you run into anybody else your age who actually wants to discuss your desire
Starting point is 00:13:27 to watch Columbo, the old 1970s detective show, pre-internet? My sister? So that's it, right? There's nobody. Your interests here. Willow, she'll talk to me about it. Your interest in CBS programming at your age
Starting point is 00:13:45 is super strange. You're not finding connection points with anybody else here your age, correct? Well, more people wanna talk about Colombo than baseball, Dan, so. Well, I've got that problem, because Jeremy, I'm with you on this. I'm with you on this.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Why did they wait till Friday, man? If it started yesterday, I would have been in. I would have watched the first two games, no doubt. But they're starting this on a Friday. I got things to do. Saturday's Miami. Billy was saying that all week. Billy was saying on Monday,
Starting point is 00:14:12 baseball, you cannot wait until Friday here. You have the stage this week. You could have grabbed it. Nobody cares about the Rams Thursday night game. Give people Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani. Few people might have Thursday Thunder on. Exactly right. I think I have a connection point to Giancarlo Stanton Give people Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani. I don't know about that. A few people might have Thursday Thunder on. Exactly right.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I think I have a connection point to Giancarlo Stanton because he was a Marlin and I really want to see him win, but I'm so detached from baseball that Mike, Mike Ryan Ruiz, called Giancarlo Stanton Mike Stanton recently and I was like, oh yeah, that was his name. And I didn't even remember that. And I was a fan of him at the time. Stigatz here, having a quality home security system
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Starting point is 00:17:56 Oh, see this is why. Stugats. Hers is better than mine. In the fifth Seagacki. How is the fifth Seagacki better than the third and the fourth Seagaki already? This is the Don Lebatar Show with the StuGuardz. This World Series to me, it's pre-internet. It conjures a time pre-internet for me nostalgically that gets touched so infrequently
Starting point is 00:18:28 by sports these days because we're consuming so much of it and it is a bombardment where hey look can we get to the WNBA championship in the middle of a football Sunday? How do we forget about college football already on saturday because all of this programming is inundating you and i'm telling you this world series brings me back to a child when it was the most amazing thing in the world that i could watch these two teams on my television play baseball because i didn't have access to everything and everything national wasn't regional and everything regional wasn't national
Starting point is 00:19:06 i'm telling you that this world series for me harkens a childlike innocence about my sports fandom where i'm like all shit i get all the baseball the best of the baseball and none of the randomness they got all of the bullshit out here and it's just the two teams that spend the most, who want my dollars the most, and I'm like, oh my God, this is not how I viewed sports
Starting point is 00:19:30 when I was nine years old. But doesn't Miami FSU do that for you too? No. Because it's on at the same time. Yeah, that's the problem. That's, honestly, that's super cute, and if I may break character for a second, I'm very excited for this World Series,
Starting point is 00:19:43 and I'm wondering if Marlins fans will feel more upset if the Yankees win it given the Marlins connection to several players And if so that could be a reason for me to root for the Yankees perhaps This is the best storyline in the World Series Miguel Rojas against Jazz Chisholm, Jr It's unbelievable the bitter bitter rivalry between those two players. I saw a video of Roas explaining how to hit Tohutani. I'm like, I'm out on this guy. I think I've made my selection on who I'm going to back in the World
Starting point is 00:20:16 Series. El Alpha, obviously Dembeau Legend out of DR, has a song called The Soto Shuffle. So I think I'm siding with the Yankees, Tony Pinstripes. Tony Pinstripes. Tony Pinstripes? Dan, what is it about the actual game? It's the stars, right?
Starting point is 00:20:30 I get the names, but during the game, are you like wowed by pitches? Are you enamored with a certain swing that a guy? Well, what I would say to you is that baseball has gotten to such a ridiculous skill level that when I'm watching Juan Soto bat I'm watching somebody who's got a plate discipline that I don't understand because everybody who's throwing baseballs three inches outside the strike zone Is throwing 98 miles an hour and so the expertise I'm watching is
Starting point is 00:20:57 better baseball players by leaps and bounds than any I've ever seen because of where the science of the game has gotten to and than any I've ever seen because of where the science of the game has gotten to and These guys are all or nothing about whether or not they can hit a home run on that 102 pitch that Stanton gets don't understand why anyone doesn't just throw it low and outside on him outside the strike It drives me don't understand how he ever hits an o and to a home run because he should swing and miss by six feet He's so easy to pitch to, it seems like to me. Well, I think that that's why, if you weren't a baseball, just seam head growing up, you might not have that connection point
Starting point is 00:21:33 because you're looking on the screen. You don't know the storylines. You're just looking on the screen for something to keep me entertained. And the other day I was watching, you know, three TVs on whatever bottom left corner. And Anthony, who does not watch baseball at all, but played baseball, just kind of caught a pitch on the corner of his eye and it's
Starting point is 00:21:48 like holy crap that was a ridiculous pitch and I was like it's just kind of sort of sparked a little light bulb over my head I was like well if you actually watch these days you might see that all the time and be enamored by it and just fall in love with the sport. The reason, look I've said this before about baseball it's always been my favorite sport it was my favorite sport growing up and i was buying all those baseball abstracts because i was trying to figure out how it is they measured value in that sport as i've watched sports over the last thirty years two things that have
Starting point is 00:22:20 happened in basketball and football is those two people are so good at what they're doing and the way that they strategize that i don't have a way to keep up with what eric spolster is doing is too complicated for me i don't totally understand what mike mcdaniel is doing but in baseball i have a decent idea because of how they've done the measurement over the last thirty years of what the manager is doing and so what I'm appreciating about baseball is this thing I've always loved has gotten to a skill level where all of the same, all of the people have all of the information
Starting point is 00:22:52 they need so that what used to be a line drive over second base, now the shortstop's always there because these people know how to play them scientifically and have all sorts of probabilities on where a ball is going to be hit. The expertise I'm watching in baseball, to have the two best teams play it to have both pitching staff sort of broken so the home run hitters can be home run hitters it makes it a world series for all time like it for me to watch it in
Starting point is 00:23:19 my love of baseball is such that this one has the story lines and all the soap opera stuff and all of the excellence in mike santon can hit a home run once every four at bats because that he's made of materials and muscles that have perfected that sport and made the evolution of it such that that i can always hit a ball four hundred and fifty feet or strikeout missing a pitch by six feet.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's also interesting watching the chess match between managers because they have to deal with the rule changes now with pitchers having to face three batters minimum. Like that's really interesting. The relievers are now all throwing like the All-Stars you saw through your childhood and if not they're even nastier and so now you have this combination where it feels like, particularly with these two teams and the stars that are across each lineup, like you're watching an all-star game every time because every inning you're turning around and there's another guy throwing 101 miles an hour with a two-foot break on a two-seam and then hooking a slider around the other
Starting point is 00:24:24 corner and he's going up against one of the greatest hitters you've ever seen. This World Series is just so full of talent. We just saw Barack Obama say that the NBA All-Star game has lost it. This is an All-Star game in baseball for all the Moccas. It actually means something. Yeah, but it's a get-right game for the Trojans because Lincoln Riley's been having a rough year and you can't lose to Rutgers at home They haven't won a game since they beat Wisconsin 38 to 21 in like week four and some people are saying beating Wisconsin might be a program killer because look at what happened Alabama
Starting point is 00:24:55 I wish the World Series has started tonight But if it had Tony and Mike would be arguing about Cooper Cup instead of watching was he gonna play or is he not gonna play? I'm gonna trade him? What's going on? Here's what's gonna happen. Where's Puka? I'm gonna channel surf, I'm gonna land on the World Series and I'm gonna realize, oh this is fun
Starting point is 00:25:10 and I'm only gonna like it when the Yankees play the Dodgers. Lakers Suns is that night too I think. Ooh. I mean UNLV and Boise, if you want. Gentie's much watched TV. If you want to watch a quick preview of that on Gen CFPB Oh, Jazz!
Starting point is 00:25:30 Who's Jazz? It was so much easier when it was foot! And Lucy was off this week so Gojo came on and we did a preview of that A little Notre Dame and Navy preview He's been in that rivalry before He's played in that game No, he's played in that game. No one else you'd rather hear of. We have two CFP eliminators this week.
Starting point is 00:25:50 CFP? Yes, this was the argument, those two guys, oh I don't want all these mega conferences because people like to make the argument, less good games, that's what I like. So we have two games that are essentially CFP eliminators, Boise, UNLV, three and a half point spread there. Gentie, spotlight game.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And you also have Missouri versus Alabama, CFP eliminator game. The playoffs do exist in the regular season the way that they existed before. They just have like two losses in the L column. Okay, that's a better pivot and that's a sacrifice that we make to get games like Ohio State at Oregon. I'll give you one more, Vanderbilt, Texas.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I mean, put the kids to sleep for that one. What are you covering in Gen CFB? The CFP. The reason that I asked the question is because I wanted to know whether we have coverage in today's show of hashtag FSU week or not. Do we have coverage in today's show on why it is and where it is, hashtag FSU Week is trending?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Not gonna lie, we haven't talked a lot about the Miami Hurricanes on Gen CFB this year. Why's that? Because they've been winning, because there's really been nothing interesting to talk about, and we already talk about them enough on this show, so Mike, take it away. How do we know we don't? We don't talk about them on this show. So Mike, take it away. We don't. We don't.
Starting point is 00:27:05 We don't talk about them on this show. And it's plenty. I had to buy into another company to be able to talk about the Miami Hurricanes football team. But yeah, we don't talk about them because they're winning and doing their job. But FSU, historically, always means something, even when those two programs are middling.
Starting point is 00:27:22 One of them is, well, not even middling. They're bottoming. Hey-o. So nobody's with me that Gentie has an unfair advantage at home games because he's camouflaged into the field? No, I like that take. I think if I'm Travis Hunter, that's what I'm going with for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Miami's wearing black uniforms. They have that black backdrop on the field. Keep an eye on extra interceptions. Let me talk about this for a second, Mike, because it is going to get in the way of my World Series viewing because yes UMFSU still does mean something to me. UMFSU week still does mean something. Oh I get it now. To me because we have Bobby Bowden these two programs fought at the top of the sport
Starting point is 00:28:05 they were alabama and georgia before alabama and georgia and it harkens to a different time uh... but whether we've talked enough about miami or not i believe the general national perception on miami given the way the games have gone is some form of they haven't played anybody i don't believe in that undefeated even though they can score against anybody because their quarterback is obviously elite. Earlier this week and I didn't hear from you on this and I am curious and I'm curious what Jessica has to say about this as well. Earlier this week I said having
Starting point is 00:28:36 seen all of the University of Miami quarterbacks Jim Kelly, Gino Toretta they've had the three first-round picks it's Bernie Konisar, Vinnie Testaverde and Jim Kelly are the first-round picks its bernie conas are vini testiverty and jim kelly are the first round picks i said cam ward's the best quarterback college quarterback in their history doesn't mean he'll be the best pro statistically it's going to be in arguably is going to break the all the records we have to do new math for new offensive evolution but at the position and i don't even know if just remembers once upon a time allegedly the
Starting point is 00:29:04 university of miami was called quarterback you and I don't even know if Jess remembers, once upon a time, allegedly, the University of Miami was called quarterback U. Yeah, two Heisman Trophy winners at the position. This is the best quarterback that they've ever had playing statistically in college. It cannot be argued. It's not even close. How much of the math do I have to alter
Starting point is 00:29:23 for today's offense to dilute that because I don't think anyone can object to what I'm saying even though Kim Ward as a professional talent is maybe he's a number one maybe he's a first-round pick but I don't think of him as a pro the way I'm watching him play in college and saying that's among the best college quarterbacks I've ever seen Jamis Winston Danny Werfel whatever it is you do with system, time and place, that guy can make offense against anybody. When you had the take, it kind of summed me a little bit
Starting point is 00:29:51 because I hadn't heard like a traditional media star come out with that take. I've seen people on the internet venture into a forum and say, I think he's the best Miami quarterback of all time. And it's an interesting rhetorical trick because Miami has, even though they've won five Natty's, they haven't had, and they've had two Heisman Trophy winners,
Starting point is 00:30:11 they aren't really known as a school that's put out great quarterbacks despite that QBU thing. Those aren't guys that did much in the NFL. Trestavarti took them off. They're surrounded by talent. Trestavarti was arguably a bust until he figured it out later in his career. I actually think you're on to something,
Starting point is 00:30:28 because this quarterback will, in all likelihood, get drafted in the upper first round. He's only 13 touchdowns away, 13 passing touchdowns away, from setting the combined FBS, FCS, NCAA record for passing touchdowns. Jeremy and I broke down that there's a scenario in which Dylan Gabriel and K Cam Ward can meet up in the playoffs, later in the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and not only have that game at stake, but also the all-time passing record combined FCS, FBS on the line as well. I think you're kinda right. Ken Dorsey, here's where you can push back on. For me, Tessa Verde, it's hard to not hold against him that interception performance that he had against Penn State. But that team did win.
Starting point is 00:31:10 In the National Championship game, he threw five interceptions. Jimmy Johnson's greatest regret as a coach is that he didn't run the ball more in that game. So Tessa Verde, for me, Kozart, Tessa Verde, Dorsey, that's the top tier of Miami football. I think if Miami turns this thing around, gets to the CFP, perhaps wins an ACC championship,
Starting point is 00:31:31 then you can invoke that. But I think the position at Miami is so tied to success on the field, not just individual success, that he has to do things like get to New York for the Heisman ceremony and has to do some winning for Miami to be in that class. Well, I will tell you, because I think the national perception of this is simply Miami has not played anybody.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So I reduce all of what those stats are. I don't care that statistically he's putting up more big games to start a career back to back to back than anyone has ever done. It's fair. It's a fair criticism of Miami. I'll concede that. Their schedule hasn't put up a fight in the ways that you would hope when you saw it line up.
Starting point is 00:32:06 The way that Vinnie Testaverde though won the Heisman Trophy is he had one play in a game against Oklahoma that everyone saw. His shoulder pad came out. Everyone saw him beat Oklahoma. Cam has five of those a game. Right. And that's what I was going to say about this team and those other quarterbacks. And I don't know if I'm just doing this because I'm not as familiar with the skill position players now that I was when these other quarterbacks played. But watching the games, this is where you can't just look
Starting point is 00:32:33 at the box score, it feels like Cam is leading them. It feels like those yards are gained because he is extending a play, finding a receiver, making just the right play at the right time, leading that group, and he just feels more Responsible for the success than some of those other quarterbacks who again were just had talent all around them They went from QB you to tight end you for a little bit because of the shock I'm so surprised that one's it's interesting with cam in that a lot of his great moments
Starting point is 00:33:00 Is he's digging himself out of a hole that he dug himself? and he's he's digging himself out of a hole that he dug himself. And he's going to be a perplexing person for NFL front offices to break down because even in that Louisville game he missed two wide open house calls on like nine yard slants. And then he turns around and throws that ball well into the back of the end zone, kind of like that play that he had at Gainesville week one. He might get a GM fired, but a team is going to totally fall in love with his ability to not quit and make these Unbelievable throws to the canes live in the same spot that we had the Dolphins in last year
Starting point is 00:33:30 We're like any hole I feel like I trust the canes to get out of it Hmm, did we say that about the Dolphins last year? Yeah, where the Dolphins could be down 14. You're like, okay No biggie, their offense was good enough. Yeah, I think 3510 against Cal does that. same peace of mind I and so many listeners experience every day, which is why I partnered with SimpliSafe to offer lebitonical listeners 50% off a new system. Visit SimpliSafe.com slash DLV. Old school security systems only act once someone is already inside your home. SimpliSafe is changing that with its new Active Guard Outside Protection, which prevents crime before it happens.
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