The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: "QB Reportedly Misses Camp For Drugs"

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Aaron Rodgers continues to behave like Aaron Rodgers as he is set to miss mandatory mini camp for the New York Jets. As rumors circulate that he may be missing this camp for a ayahuasca retreat, Dan a...nd the crew discuss the way Rodgers is being covered by the media and how it differs from how it would be for other athletes, if Rodgers' "spiritual journey" has changed his perspective on work and football, why Rodgers continues to act like he's a target, whether or not Rodgers cares about what we think (he does), and if Dan and Mike are egomaniacs. Plus, let's talk about ANOTHER QB! Tom Brady not only got Jay-Z to perform at his Patriots Hall of Fame induction, but he tried his hand at the UFL broadcast over the weekend, and Mike thinks he crushed it. Also, Jessica and Billy hatch a plan to ruin Brady's ACTUAL Hall of Fame induction from the inside. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Do we have any idea why it is that it's batshit and not another animal that gets assigned to the crazy? Because batshit is one that I don't understand. Well, you can make a lot of things from guano. It's linked to crazy He's right But one of the craziest things in the last three or four years Stugats and it's gotten so crazy that I do believe the public is largely numb to it the descent of Aaron Rodgers from whatever it is you thought of him before
Starting point is 00:02:06 to now being someone who is missing mandatory camp with the Jets and a lot of people think it's because he's got an ayahuasca retreat. So now it's not drug use entirely, the reason that he's missing mandatory camp and ayahuasca is wildly misunderstood So I know a lot of people listening to this Mike has referred to it as tripping balls What ayahuasca is actually is a spiritual? journey that Is your altered by? journey that uh... is
Starting point is 00:02:43 that your altered by uh... by i think it's uh... it's a tree bark that makes you very sick and is supposed to be about killing the ego and showing you things about your life that you need to see so they can die i've told you before that i've thought about doing and i've always been too scared to get that kind of sick but many people who do it and believe it call it life altering say they check it will change that d m t and other things will change your entire perspective on how it is that you view
Starting point is 00:03:12 the world so whatever you think of iowa ska there still is the story of the jets quarterback is missing mandatory camp and is going to be fined and is causing distractions with his team apparently because he's got a spiritual retreat plan again the reporting on important to him and robert sallow did not think he was important enough for him to miss a mandatory case spiritual journey is important to him no matter what you make of his spiritual journey and whether you want to laugh at it or not and his football coach doesn't care about his spiritual journey but to see that at the top of an organization and have it missing mandatory
Starting point is 00:03:52 camp after everything that else that has happened with Aaron Rodgers is fairly flabbergasting to see that as a choice being made by him. I think what the coach is saying is hey take your spiritual journey on your own time not on my time and what he's saying is hey coach you had this higher off season No, but no, I don't know given the timing of these things, right? I don't know how special a ceremony this is I don't know why it is that he can't be at mandatory camp because this this thing This is all speculative. It is all speculative It is all spec and ayahuas it is all speculative and iowaska
Starting point is 00:04:25 is supposed to kill the ego according to you yeah because it doesn't seem like his ego has been killed yeah also reportedly when i want to march right i mean i would say that if lamar jackson had a very obvious dip in play and his health started being affected. And he publicly touted drugs as much as Aaron Rodgers does. It would be received a lot different. If purportedly Lamar Jackson wanted to step away from a mandatory camp because of something surrounding drugs, it would be received not the same way. It is a fairly, for as much as he's in the news cycle and
Starting point is 00:05:06 a lot of it's his own doing like he is living a charmed existence for whatever reason. And to couch it as I'm searching for something, I'm searching for this, I'm trying to get rid of my ego, give me a break. You're tripping balls. Mike is right. Don't give me that. It's like Jim Morrison of the doors. I don't want to hear about it. He takes acid, he takes LSD, he takes mushrooms, ayahuasca, whatever it is, because it feels good. That's why. All right. That is not the way the people who do this talk about this, but I understand the skepticism about psychedelics and I understand the skepticism about this. I'm simply telling
Starting point is 00:05:41 you, because I don't believe anyone here has any expertise in talking to others who have gone down this path I will tell you that my brother went down this path aggressively and so I see when Aaron Rogers does talk about some of this stuff how he is talking about mind altering as also mind-opening And when it's mind-opening, one of the things that happens is football's pretty silly, work is pretty silly, jobs are pretty silly. We're talking about life and death stuff and connection to the spiritual world. And while I understand anyone listening to this dismissing it, I will just tell you
Starting point is 00:06:20 that the people who believe in this kind of stuff do so fervently and would not dismiss it. Work is silly is a much different message than anything that has to do without winning. Let's keep it out of this building. Correct. He also has the means to just retire if it's silly so why not? Correct. Because he hasn't done enough to kill the ego. Also batshit comes from the popular phrase from around the turn of the previous century to have bats in the belfry the image compares bats in a church steeple crazy ideas in a person's head from there we get terms like baddie and gone bats that's from Quora yeah and I've recently like it was I tried to a gummy for the first time in my life after 30 like I've just not really seen the
Starting point is 00:07:00 appeal of drugs but I am warming up to certain things. I do feel relaxed. It does get me in a better place but most of the people that tell me to do ayahuasca aren't generally not people I would take their advice on anything from and Aaron Rodgers does seem to fit that mold. To answer Stugatz's question because I know there's a lot to laugh at here and there's a lot to be skeptical of uh... but when the billy says well you can just retire or uh... when still gots got gets mad at the jets quarterback can have everything he wants because go ahead and do something about it somebody go ahead and do something about it. Somebody, go ahead and do something about it. Go ahead, Jets coach, go ahead Jets owner,
Starting point is 00:07:48 go ahead league, do something about it. The answer is you can't, you will not. He will do whatever he wants because he can. He can take the money. Well Rob Salah did do something about it. He said publicly this is. He fined him. This is not an excused absence and you know,
Starting point is 00:08:02 that's the byproduct of your decision right there is the consequences, you get called out. Well, let me be clear, I don't care. I understand why Sal is upset. I understand why fans are upset, but Dan, he chose this organization. This is a desperate organization. They'll allow him to do anything,
Starting point is 00:08:16 as long as he shows up and plays quarterback every Sunday. I'm serious. But that's a big question. And he's got to do it, well, maybe not all that well, given what we saw to their, their defense, the bar is very low position, but he has slid quite a bit. And it does on the timeline and matches up with him approaching ages where we've literally only seen one guy do it at the same level. Well, thank you for bringing that guy up because I do believe that one of the
Starting point is 00:08:44 distortions that has happened over the last fifteen years to got says tom brady notice will wait a minute if lebron's his own economy then wait a minute how valuable am i erin rogers is testing all the limits on that stood on she's testing all the limits on how desperate are you that i can do whatever i want whenever i want however i want whenever i want however i want and furthermore what i'm going to do is go from state farm spokesman and everything that entails to get you got to be clean to get those things you you
Starting point is 00:09:14 lose those things when you're not clean image why to go from that to i'd do whatever i want whenever i want and i'll take your consequences to your consequences are going to change my behavior my life is bigger than football the things i think are too big to be kept quiet anymore i don't care whether i'm a distraction to the organization or the huddle or whether i'm missing mandatory camp i'm leaving now what are you going to do about it okay disgrace my name i'm going to be in a different psychedelic land where I don't have to hear what your criticisms are. I'm not gonna be in the country
Starting point is 00:09:49 I'm not gonna hear the noise. I'll be back in time for football He's really testing the limits on power and what he can get away with but is it going well for him? I mean, he's gonna keep getting his money and he's gonna get bad public opinion and he's gonna get a job as the quarterback of The Jets when he decides to return to it. But for now though. But he's also gonna get considered as a vice presidential candidate.
Starting point is 00:10:11 There are good things of her leaning into some of the aspects that he's leaning in. Like his profile has certainly increased because to some he's more infamous, and to others he's speaking truth to power, and he's being brave with some of his stances However ridiculous you may find them He is he has totally changed his perception in the last few years
Starting point is 00:10:34 But when he first started doing this he had excellent play to go with it Is he going to become a cautionary tale? Is he like is it going to be known as a red flag when your aging quarterback decides to start turning to Ayahuasca like he's at the forefront of a lot of new stuff here We're not used to seeing people do it at this age but like we all said there's only been one that's been able to do it and That is who Aaron Rodgers will be graded against independent of all that off-field stuff Like when we're talking about the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen,
Starting point is 00:11:05 in terms of playing the position, it doesn't get much better than the Bradys, the Rogers, the Mahomeses of the world. But it feels like once his play is done, he's going to then be compared to the greats of Jesse Ventura. And is that the path that he wants to go down? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Bless you. He may view it as Reagan. He knows it all goes away if he shows up on Sundays and plays and plays well. So he doesn't care. To Dan's point, he does not care. He's out of the country. He doesn't care that Sal Lakata is ripping him on WFAN. Go ahead, have at it, get your 20 shares. He doesn't care. You're absolutely right, which comes back to his original point.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Like we don't want anything in this building that affects winning. He doesn't care. You're absolutely right. Which comes back to his original point. We don't want anything in this building that affects winning. I do genuinely think that whatever Aaron Rodgers is doing outside of camp, he believes it is ultimately helping his goal. I don't need that rationale explained to me. I get it. Whether it's wrong or right, that's not for me to decide. But it might not actually be helping
Starting point is 00:12:06 It might not be but I will tell you that Tom Brady at Aaron Rogers is age was Pretty obviously unhappy that he was trapped inside the confines of not being able to use his power in New England The way that he wanted to and so he left to do not psychedelics But to win but break COVID protocol with Byron Lefwich coming wanted to. And so he left to do not psychedelics, but to win. But break COVID protocol with Byron Lefwitz coming over to his house so he can win. And so he could beat Patrick Mahomes again in the playoffs. So like you have very valid concerns I think if this is your quarterback and the more quirky he's gotten and that's putting kid gloves on it, the quirkier he's's gotten publicly the worst the on field product is also a bit you
Starting point is 00:12:49 do realize though right that he does believe that he aligned with the universe and whatever is that he is doing will make him the best version of quarterback he's betting on himself so thoroughly here that he's like I need this more than I need mandatory camp. I need this enough that I'm willing to have the consequences of my coach and my organization endure the embarrassment of this. This is his mandatory mini camp. I think the difference or one of the differences between him and Tom Brady is I don't think with Tom Brady you ever questioned how much he actually cared about football which is where you kind of are with Aaron like does Aaron like football we don't really know and the
Starting point is 00:13:32 times that he has reportedly flexed his muscle inside that organization is not just with stuff like this it's hey we want to sign Joe Flacco actually I prefer Tim Boyle we got to hang out I like Nate Hackett. They're making concessions for Aaron Rogers that are hurting them. Because I think there isn't a Jets fan on this planet that wouldn't have preferred Joe Flacco over Tim Boyle. We signed Randall Cobb. Stu Gatz here.
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Starting point is 00:15:16 was Aaron Rodgers. They had a 20 minute conversation. Identical twins. I mean Jesus. Stugatz. Listen, I will never have the relationship with Aaron Rodgers that I have with the guy that I thought I mean that is the greatest conversation I've ever had with my cornerback. This is the done libertar show with a stew guards Billy, I disagree with you that he does not love football. He absolutely loves the way Sundays make him feel. Mandatory camp? Eh. Sundays and Mondays and performing well. In his defense, he went to all the stuff he didn't have to go to.
Starting point is 00:15:59 All of it. All the off-season workouts, all that stuff that was voluntary. He went to all of them. That's exactly what you do when you know you're about to miss one of the things that you can't miss. Okay, but Mike, Dan asked how desperate you have to be. This desperate. You're right about this.
Starting point is 00:16:15 This is the most spectacular midlife crisis I have ever seen in sports. It won't end. Can you be the person that says don't have distractions and be the number one distraction? I'm not going to claim that he is not inconsistent. What I am gonna claim is when you say how important is football to him,
Starting point is 00:16:36 not as important as wherever it is that he's headed on this path, obviously. And it's not because football hasn't been important to him, it's because something else is now more important to him you can't be mvp great at that sport without loving it it's not possible you can't do that look true breeze said every time he was in the facility at ten p m and everyone else is gone uh... greatness is lonely like you can't be that good at it
Starting point is 00:16:59 if you don't love it but he is searching for something else in a way that's publicly obvious. The rest of us think, or many of us think he's lost. Think he's, but he thinks he's going to win. Yeah, but aligned with his journey of self-discovery, he's also saying asinine things, whether it's the government created AIDS or getting into a very public spat with Jimmy Kimmel over, at the very least, jokes in super poor taste about pedophilia.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So you have all these things going along with it and it all kind of sporked by this journey of self discovery. We also have no on field proof that what he's doing is actually important or if it's working or if it's working is the biggest part of all this. It's just, and again, it's timing out that this might've been the natural, he could have been the most straight-laced, dude, quiet, not said a word, literally in that facility, day and night, and his place still would have dropped just because of his age. I also personally don't really care what Aaron Rodgers thinks about anything, like one way
Starting point is 00:17:59 or another. I just don't understand why we equate odd behavior to enlightened. Oh, I'm just telling you his viewpoint on what he's doing with psychedelics and with Ayahuasca. Yeah, but it's just the nature of celebrity today. Like people are drawn to Russell Brand even more so now as he's really veered into a specific lane because, Oh, this person gives off interesting, but really there's not much there. It's like you think someone's super interesting and you want to find out more of them and then they believe the earth is flat. Why did I actually put that much stock in this person?
Starting point is 00:18:37 I've been surprised by Russell Brand and how far right he has gone. And it makes me wonder, honestly, because I know we get accused of being in a certain kind of echo chamber ourselves and being affected by that echo chamber. I know people think that I and we are woke-fried as an entity. It does make me wonder though, when you start putting a toe in those waters
Starting point is 00:19:04 toward the extreme and then start getting the applause validation of the extreme. And the money. And the money. And the money because you actually have a career. We're seeing it play out right now with what was presented as a stay at home mom going on info wars, dropping the N-word and then publicly thanking black people for their role in the I'm not in an echo chamber. I may be here on this show. I live in South Florida. I hear your opinions constantly. I'm on X. I understand everyone else's opinions. I go to the dentist. I'm in the golf chat. Yeah, like I get it all. I really do. I don't, I don't, I have not
Starting point is 00:19:43 I don't get Russell Brand going with Alex Jones. I don't get that I know why they're showing you who they are like it's just because I have my own opinions It's not a byproduct of an echo chamber. There is no shortage of everybody else's opinions even in sports I hear Aaron Rodgers opinions. I get I can't avoid them I I understand Billy says he couldn't care less about Aaron Rodgers because he is such a superstar and because I work in sports, I have to care. I have to have some conviction one way or another or otherwise it's just a pretty boring show if everyone's just like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I can't be in this business and say to you that a quarterback who is 40 missing mandatory camp to possibly do psychedelics or ayahuasca, that that's something that I'm numb to. Like I don't, I'm not gonna do it. Like I don't. But it's also never been something that isn't a huge national controversy. Quarterback leaves camp reportedly,
Starting point is 00:20:38 potentially because of drugs. Like that's not something that we've ever dealt with and it's never been handled this way. Well, it can't be handled anyway because when would it present itself? Dan, you were at the center of it. Ricky Williams. Oh, that one was so much different. A little different, different time. Yeah, weaker drug, different position.
Starting point is 00:20:59 In retrospect, Ricky was so far ahead of his time. I mean, look, I mean, no. That's, it's. I am citing the perfect example right now of how it's usually been covered and how charmed in existence, and it may be more of a charmed existence because Ricky Williams publicly had to die for this. That literally. You know what I meant.
Starting point is 00:21:18 That's a fact, yes. I'll take 50 though. Clarify that though. His identity did have to die. And Ricky did love football, but Ricky's search was beyond football, and Ricky didn't really fit ever in football. Ricky's the one who told us while in the Ravens locker room
Starting point is 00:21:35 with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis, he's like, I'm a rabbit, they're wolves. We spoke about this a little bit last week, Darren Waller and his retirement. Did you see the interview that he did, the podcast that it came out, like and it ties back slightly directly, where he like referenced astrology as to why it is
Starting point is 00:21:53 that he was retiring from football. Like he said that his chart was saying that he should be doing more than just football. And that was one of the factors in retiring from football. He also had a medical issue that none of us knew about where he says he almost died. And I think it was right after he filmed that music video that we were kind of making fun of.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But this seems to be happening and it's more prevalent. You can't do any of this stuff without a whole lot of people mocking you, especially in an avenue like this where football is so important that we can't understand anything else being more important than football. And especially in America where work is so important that we can't understand anything else being more important than football. And especially in America where work is so important that we can't understand anything. You're being paid 50 million dollars a year. That should be the most important thing to most people.
Starting point is 00:22:34 That's fine, but don't be the guy that says football is the most important thing. Precisely. But why? He's the one telling us that. Why can't you do that if all you're going to incur is a fine and then you can come back and have your job? You can do why say football needs to be the most important thing and then very publicly have football not be the most important Billy You can catch anyone on these inconsistencies. You're right. You are absolutely correct. Gotcha Aaron Rogers That seems inconsistent and also he'll take the consequences of you thinking that because he doesn't care. I'm not trying to get him. Oh Dan he cares. There are no consequences. He cares more than anybody else. It was $16,000 to get a star dude. He doesn't care. He opens up every Pat
Starting point is 00:23:16 McAfee segment talking about how he doesn't care when he cares. He cares. He cares about the reaction of this segment. He cares. It's icy around him in Tahoe because he cares. Mike, he's enduring and choosing the consequences of whatever comes with laughing stock, public criticism. He's choosing it. You think he doesn't know that if he misses mandatory camp, it's a thing? But he's not though,
Starting point is 00:23:44 because then he's also playing the victim and acting as though he's a target as though his decisions are not like the consequences aren't the results of his decisions. And he cannot wait for you to tune into the next public statement to find out exactly why he was unexcused. I agree with Billy on the idea that that Aaron Rodgers like LeBron James really is addicted to the attention, that there is something about making loud noises that does provide something, even if it's polarization and even if it's loud noises.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So he cares about Salicotta with negativity. He's very much spends a lot of time. It's obvious how much time he spends on the internet. He tells you how much time he spends on the internet by saying how much he reads up on things and he encourages people to go read the internet on these things. So he very much cares. He's aware of it. So let me put in front of you, okay, if he cares then about the consequences then why is he doing this?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Because I genuinely think that he thinks that this makes it better and his rationale is we are keeping stuff out of that facility that doesn't help us win. He is an egomaniac in that way, as a lot of people are, as you and I are. Like I think he believes that what he is doing, he is rationalizing his mind that this serves a greater good. And a lot of people have made bad decisions rationalizing things they feel serve the greater good. He also is just creating adversity for himself to overcome. Like none of this is actual adversity,
Starting point is 00:25:11 but then he will now paint his adversity that he and himself is overcoming and he's using as a driving force. Like he's doing this to himself. The whole thing about him coming back last year from an injury that everybody in medicine was telling us there is no actual way he can come back he made that a weekly conversation because he wanted to prove his detractors wrong he wanted to crack open the door to maybe the science isn't all that smart. Guillermo put it on the poll please I'm sorry Juju put it on the poll Guillermo doesn't do that anymore. At Levitard Show are Dan and Mike egomaniacs?
Starting point is 00:25:46 Duh. Everybody's got an ego, really. Even the people that present themselves as egoless. There are people that are more egoless, but everyone has a sense of self-worth. And some people who have lived lives under the, and have been high achievers in the public space, are naturally going to have a larger ego than others. And if he thinks that he's taking something to maybe take that ego apart as you presented it, and I know you don't speak for Ayahuasca,
Starting point is 00:26:14 I would love to start seeing. I speak for big Ayahuasca. Yeah, well you presented it as a way that's very clearly not working for Rogers. On the poll is duh, one of the options. I am bought and paid for by big ayahuasca clearly. I'm the only one in the mainstream media Advocating for hey guys. This isn't just tripping balls By the way, can we stop searching for stuff a better self the meaning of life?
Starting point is 00:26:38 If Phil Jackson started I remember search for a Super Bowl remember how Phil Jackson was covered Phil Jackson wasn't showing up to meetings because he was out in the mountains and it was reported that there was this ayahuasca thing around him Like it's a natural thing didn't someone didn't someone stop searching didn't someone accuse Rick Carlisle at one point of using peyote Put it on the pole explain some of those fourth quarters Levitard show of those fourth quarters. At Levitard Show, hey Aaron Rodgers, how about searching for a Super Bowl? How's that sound?
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Starting point is 00:28:05 Don LeBattard. God doesn't even know what this list is. He was the head of Tom Brady, who also won a playoff game. A couple, yeah. That was literally the most confusing list we've ever done. Chibos got a better shot of coming back.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Give him a chance. He's got more leads. I'm mad. I'm angry. I wanna leave. Stugats. This would have been your day. This should be. You should own the sports media landscape right now.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I am. I am. Top seven guys. I would not want the Jets. No. No. No. F*** you. No. No. I'm not allowing it. Give him a chance. No. No. I'm not giving him a chance. I'm giving him 20 years. I've given him my prize. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Stugats, I thought we did as a show a pretty decent job of hating last week when we blamed on the weather our inability to celebrate the Boston Celtics going up 3-0 in that series but a lot of people have made the joke that Jerry West did the you know
Starting point is 00:29:10 the greatest of the hating where he's like okay I'm leaving I don't I cannot watch the Boston Celtics win a title and I'm out of here I'm not gonna be a part of this but in the middle of what happened that night with the Celtics, I got legitimately confused because Tom Brady is having a ceremony where he's being introduced by Jay Z. And I'm like, wait a minute, Hall of Fame usually takes five years.
Starting point is 00:29:39 This usually happens in closer to football season, right before the football season. I legitimately thought that they gave Tom Brady different time on the Hall of Fame just because he's Tom Brady. But it was just a retirement Jersey retirement ceremony and he basically is making the rounds all over the place publicly keeping his name out there whether it's a rose that he regrets to practicing over the weekend
Starting point is 00:30:05 on the UFL broadcast. Were any of you surprised that for a mere Jersey retirement ceremony, he can land Jay-Z's live performance when everyone's excited about the Tonys last night because Jay-Z is doing a live performance as a reveal by Alicia Keys on the Tonys? Like, was anyone else surprised that Tom Brady for a simple Retirement Jersey ceremony gets jay-z to perform live. I know I'm surprised. We're still doing the Tonys I mean, oh my god, they're great Daniel Radcliffe won a Tony for merrily we roll along Jonathan Groff one one Oh, so Daniel. I love Daniel Radcliffe. He is a phenomenal performer I feel like his whole life everyone everyone will just be like, that's Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But he's so talented. And he honestly, one of the greatest performers of our generation. Well, our generation. So was Brady. Not your generation. It was also, it was a Patriots Hall of Fame ceremony. So that's why he was wearing
Starting point is 00:30:59 like the red Patriots Hall of Fame jacket. And I could be wrong, but I thought I saw online the reason it was then, though there was that game because I think there's a question why are they doing in the middle is because it was June 12th which is six championships and he was number 12 is I think is why that date was selected but none of you were fooled by this into being tricked into thinking that Tom Brady had gotten a fast-forwarded Hall of Fame ceremony that's a yellow jacket yeah this was a very red jacket.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I learned about it on social media. I was super surprised that they really wanted that date, despite there being a Celtics conflict there. There were a lot of big time Celtics fans in that stadium celebrating football and not potentially their team. It did give me an idea though. How many years until he's eligible for the Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like two more, three more? Depends if he comes back, he's gonna reset that timeline. Could be 10 more. Assuming he doesn't come back, which is a big assumption. We have enough time right now to infiltrate Canton and become the people that do the playoff music, like at the Oscars, so we can ruin Tom Brady's Hall of Fame acceptance speech
Starting point is 00:32:04 by playing him off the stage early. This is quite the long- Wait, what is this? How do we, how do we? Are we gonna become musicians? What are you doing? I'm shocked this wasn't a Billy idea. I love this idea.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I need it explained a little slower. Yeah, yeah. We create a position with the Hall of Fame where we're in charge of the production of the Hall of Fame. Maybe Metal Art can do it. With no qualifications. No, no. We have time to get qualified. We present our musical as here. We are Metal Art. I will do this on behalf of Metal Art. And we infiltrate the Hall of Fame. We put on the show. And when Tom Brady goes up, we
Starting point is 00:32:36 ruin his big moment because we all are Tom Brady haters because he never came to the Dolphins. Yeah, this is a Billy idea. And also he beat the Steelers. It's an uncommonly bad idea. He does have the tendency to be a Yammer. So Billy, what? What song would you play to play him off? Why are we playing him off? I think people like I want to hear the entire speech. It's a strange payoff.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And why are we playing the ultimate revenge? I want to keep him on. I mean, what revenge is it? It's the ultimate one. He wins all the championships. And at the end, you just play him off the stage because I got it. Thank you. I mean. What revenge is it? It's the ultimate one. He wins all the championships and at the end you just play him off the stage because I got it. I've got a trumpet.
Starting point is 00:33:09 No, this is a good idea. I got it, Jess. Billy gets me. All right, so you get the instrumental. I love instrumental covers of like pop culture songs. So you get like the orchestra, the instrumental, and then all of a sudden. I hear me hear such old fears,
Starting point is 00:33:23 the greatest of all time. But on a violin. On a violin. No one's ever seen. Then you point, you do the... With like the xylophone over there. When the air is on the ground, there are winds and storms. And it's getting louder.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And when you say Miami. It's getting louder, louder, louder. We're talking Super Bowl, guys. Exactly what Chris gets. And then as that's happening, all the people in the crowd start removing their Patriots jerseys. And you see Aqua and Orange because we infiltrated the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And we're the only team that's had a perfect season. Yeah, us. We. Mercury and Morris is there. Us Miami fans. Jess, great idea, Raze. Truly terrible. Who's in charge of Raze's? It's regular C, man.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Terrible idea made worse by Billy, as they often are. He had to say something. I mean, they went to him. So Tom Brady does the broadcasting this weekend to get a few reps in, to get a few reps in on the QFL. He's popped up at least once before on a UFL game that I was watching. And I think like the plan the entire time was for Tom to be around the sport so he could be the person that hands the MVP award.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Adrian Martinez was at Birmingham. Sally and said quietly a dynasty, three straight championships. Unbelievable. Did you feel bad for Wade Phillips though? I did because he finally gets to a championship game and he got shut out. It was, it was tough, but he wanted, and you understand why that brings a level of gravitas to the, the proceedings and it makes it really cool and it was reported just before the UFL title game. They were able to keep this a secret that all this, him hanging around the sport was to give a pseudo trial run to him being in the booth and he was in
Starting point is 00:35:11 the booth for a couple of series and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it and it the way that it worked on me was exactly how I thought it would work. I've never had someone that great reacting to a sport in real time under the guise of being a broadcaster. I've had Wayne Gretzky in studio before, but that's way different. You have someone rattling off from the top of their dome or preparing for what they're seeing and giving you not just feedback, but feedback from the greatest to ever do it. And it goes a long way. He's not John Madden in terms of charisma or voice
Starting point is 00:35:45 or delivery but he's John Madden wishes he was as great at his job as he was when Tom Brady was doing his job on the field and it goes a long way. It really does. We'll see. Oh it is interesting. I do that that's a fair rebuttal because the novelty of that could wear off and then you're just left with what it is that they do. But for me, I was like, wow, this is awesome. That's not much of a novelty for me. I'm not saying it's not for you, but I don't care what Tom Brady's thoughts are on UFL
Starting point is 00:36:17 reactions. No, I mean, you'll care when when Dak Prescott's got a season defining series. I will care if Tom Brady is willing to say interesting things. The clips that I saw, I saw a very relaxed Tom Brady. I saw a Tom Brady less starched and less robotic that he is in front of his locker. He seemed to be working at some things. You have to understand that this is going to be a person who works very hard, very competitively at being good at this so he is going to learn some likeability tricks that broadcasters need in order to produce Whatever it is that can be charisma from a robot someone who's been a robot for 20 years human
Starting point is 00:36:59 Charisma can be tough. I'm not saying it's artificial intelligence that Tom Brady has to summon, but summoning broadcast charisma is not something he's got any experience with. I think he'll be fine doing it though. I think Tom has had plenty of experience just walking into a room and lighting up the room and showing some form of charisma. So I think he'll be fine there. But being Tom Brady when you have the entire room at your disposal is different than three second windows for Tom Brady to talk. But you don't need to be overly charismatic to be good at that job. Greg Olson is not overly charismatic and he does that job about as well as anyone. There is something to what Mike is saying.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You have the greatest of all time who has now stopped playing football, we think, and he is entering the broadcast booth to break down other quarterbacks and other games and things that he sees in real time. And to me, that is fascinating and interesting you don't see this often but Michael Jordan didn't go to the broadcast booth. Is he gonna be critical of other quarterbacks? I have a better idea by the way than the last one? Well, impossible. We're the production company putting on the Hall of Fame ceremony right? Yeah. What if we made an inflatable stage and then while he's giving his speech, we deflate it.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Oh, wow. In homage to deflate Gabe. Do we still get to play the music? We can still play the music. Violet only? It has to be the same person. Why just have one great idea when you can have two? What if we do a photo booth instead of a stage?
Starting point is 00:38:20 A photo booth where he gives a speech from? No, the inflatable photo booth. The stage? I think he'll be onto us us when he walks out on to the Are we just gonna make bounce house Roy's game six Edmonton budget on the stage Walking on a bounce house not easy He has not been shy about being a lot of critical about the NFL and that position in particular I miss moon bounces. Those are fun
Starting point is 00:38:44 Did you guys see by the way the breaking news to bring this back to Tom Brady for a second sort of not really the NFL and that position in particular. I miss moon bounces, those are fun. Did you guys see by the way, the breaking news to bring this back to Tom Brady for a second sort of not really, that Madden announced their broadcast teams and Greg Olson is one of them. So they have multiple broadcast teams in the next edition of Madden.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And once I saw that Greg Olson was involved, I thought, in a year, Tom Brady's gonna be involved. This is great. Gotta pay extra for that. Know your worth, King. If you're going to not have charisma like Greg Olson, your information has to carry you. What you're saying has to be exceptional.
Starting point is 00:39:17 In the absence of that great information, you can do what John Madden did and be beloved broadcaster because of charisma. I mean, I isolated, right? This is not a representative sample, but dude knew his UFO ball. Like he was very clearly studying it. And if his speech would shine any light on his general approach to things, I think he's shown in the very limited reps that we've seen him that he's going
Starting point is 00:39:43 to be prepared. So if you have the greatest ever preparing for the broadcast the way that he used to prepare for a game, I don't see how this is bad unless you think the novelty of said greatness wears off because you're not that interested in it. I think we'd all run to the chance to hear Michael Jordan broadcast an NBA game because the novelty is such. The perfect thing I think about Tom Brady breaking in at the UFL is that whether he knows the UFL or he doesn't, I don't.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So it sounds like he does because he knows more than me. Good spot for him. By the way, why is Greg Olson keep catching strays? Like why do we keep saying he has no Riz? He's got a little bit of Riz. He's just overcoming. Like I don't see a gulf in charisma from Tom Brady and Greg Olson. Everyone knows the standard of charisma.
Starting point is 00:40:29 No. There's a guy that yelled boom into the microphone all the time. No, I do, though, Mike. For his entire public existence, it's why I wouldn't have any interest in a Tom Brady documentary of any kind. He has been starched. He has not been someone who seems like a human who can reach other humans because he's like us. That's the appeal. Yeah, he's not
Starting point is 00:40:54 like us. He's better than us. Yes, he's better than me. I know it. You know it. We all know it. But what I saw in that UFL broadcast clip that i saw was somebody who had an ability to more from the dry cleaned personality he's been for twenty five years into something that was softer and that he had worked at whatever it is that he needs to work at so that he can have the broadcast polish to seem relaxed and likable. Like likable is a, it's a big one. He's walking into the booth with the likability of that name. And now can the personality be something that surprises us
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