The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Rhonda Cooks (feat. Ron Magill)

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Because I remember when I would go to the arcade, like my father would go right to to the pit that that's a dad's game pinball i want to play the video games right but then you get to a certain age who says you know what pinball is pretty fun i used to think there was like this crazy special skill to pinball and i'm just like man if i start working this machine am i going to embarrass myself and every time like the ball went or i lost a turn or whatever i kind of look around and be like anybody noticed that because that was embarrassed like there are people that are much better at it of course you know it's got to be a skill but there are times where it just goes right down the middle. And you're like, what am I supposed to do about this? Okay, it doesn't,

the laws of physics do not apply. That's when I need somebody else there to confirm that they thought. Did you see that? I couldn't do anything about that. Don't call me a loser. I don't think I've played a pinball machine since I was like eight. Really? Not for me. What's the ultimate dad arcade game? Pop-Man. Pop-Shop-A-Shod. Miss Pac-Man. Miss Pac-Man. For me, it's Papa-Shot. Golden T's up there. Golden T. Love it. On Miss Pac-Man, every time you go up a level and you get that little thing that they do, the little song and dance, you got to wait.

You got to kind of lean to the side and play it really cool. Be like, you see this? You guys see this? I just made the next level. I think I got you guys beat. I think the ultimate dad arcade game is Gallagher.

Granddad. It makes sense because my dad has a Miss Pac-Man half and then Gallagher machine. That's the machine my dad has. Those are the two games. Yeah. Right.

Maybe ski ball. Which one's Galaga? Is that the one where you shoot the little spaceship as they come closer and closer to you. Yeah. But when you get double Galaga, you are unsubbed.

unstoppable. You want to get captured. That's a veteran move. You know, if you're playing Gallagher for the first time and your son is next, you show him, watch this. And then he's like, whoa, why are you letting their laser beam come and suck you up? No, no, no, son, this is the move. I'm getting captured on purpose. Right. And now I'm going to get the double shooter. Yeah, but then you're more vulnerable because you're wider, so it's easier. No, but once you get the double shooter, no. I mean, you're unstoppable for a good 15 seconds. I have Gallagher. I know this game. I know this game. It's the only way to win is to have the double shooter. What about that centipede game?

It's fairly similar, but does it, is it better than, you don't know which one? What about Dig Dug? Oh, Dig Dug, classic. That might be a little older, though. And I don't think it's arcade. I think that's more Nintendo or at home, maybe even Atari. How is Donkey Kong not in this discussion? This is different.

That's like, we're talking arcades. No, Donkey Kong was absolutely in the arcade. I mean, Donkey Kong is N-64. Like, maybe you guys... What? Donkey Kong 64. Yeah, like, that's where I think of Donkey Kong 64 is another answer. As soon as you start putting numbers on the station,

on the things you're playing on, next generation. I don't think I've ever played Donkey Kong at an arcade. I'm not saying you're wrong. Donkey Kong introduced the world to Super Mario. That's right. I know Jeremy you're saying that this is like a very old person conversation. It is. But I'm going to sound really old when I say this too.

This generation, you have no idea how great going to the arcade was. It was the greatest activity you could do. on the weekend with your friends is go to the arcade. I went to the arcade. I understand how great it is. I'm just saying, like, I could still exist. It's a Saturday night, like, dinner, and then an arcade with my kid. Like, that's like a thing.

Little Pupput. I think the Gallagher is really what he's saying is, like, the Facebook of the conversation. No, the Donkey Kong not being on 64. Like, saying that 64, Nintendo 64 is too old or too young for you. Atari, Nintendo. Sega Genesis, PlayStation. Texas Instrument.

You're done. You had that Texas instrument? I had a calculator. That was Texas Instruments. I had that Texas Instrument. I had that Texas Instrument. A graphing calculator. So, Billy, what is going on with Shohei Otani?

Dude, that's the question. Where there's smoke, there's fire with the show. I'm getting the impression. I'm getting the impression. I want to you explain this to me, but I'm getting the impression. Shoah Otani might be a troublemaker. Either that or he has a terrible vet.

system. Can we at least agree on that? No. At the very least, he just kind of, oh, you got a business idea? I like it. I'm in. So Shohay is now being sued. Shohei and a partner of his being sued for quote-unquote sabotaging a real estate deal in Hawaii

and they're being sued for $250 million, or I think it was a $250 million sabotage that they accused him of. We're a year removed from the IPE situation where it was not Showing's fault. It was E-Base. That's the partner's name, Fall Guy.

Now we have another situation here with show, and I'm starting to kind of wonder what's going on with this show. You know what I don't understand. $700 million seems like enough money to not be involved in these shenanigans. Well, but he doesn't have the $700. Remember, base salary, it's like a million dollars. No, but it's not. It's like a million dollars from the Dodgers, and then like $60.

He's struggling right now, Billy. It's like $60 million in like endorsement deals that he's making. So he's still making. a ton of money. Why is he doing this stuff? So he's being accused of... Sabotage. But why would he sabotage? Why would he want to sabotage a deal that he willingly entered into? Because he's Shohei Otani. He's just a bad boy. He's an international bad boy that just likes to go around doing bad boy things. He's a fall guy. But he's not going to light his own money on fire. What did any... What's the allegation of what he did in a... The allegation is that

Shohay and his agent got two real estate investors fired from a $240 million luxury housing development in Hawaii, and their coveted Hapuna Coast that they brought him in to endorse. According to the lawsuit filed in Hawaii Circuit Court on Friday, Otani's agent, increasingly demanded concessions from developer, and they're both their names, before demanding that their business partner drop them from the deal. It says that the lawsuit alleges Otani and his agent, quote, exploited their celebrity leverage to destabilize and ultimately dismantle the plaintiff's role in the project for no reason other than their own financial self-interest. Seems like a dick move, I would say.

It seems very one-sided. As a lawsuit would be, being filed by somebody else, it's just odd that Shohei Otani is in the news cycle the second he becomes a Dodger because it was so quiet around this guy. He's been in the majors for a very long time. And it's been like a weird, like 16 months for show A Otani. Like, are we going to learn he's like a kingpin? No, it also sounds like if you look at the suit, it's his agent that they're really, you think Otani is sitting there saying, no, no, no, if we're going to do this real estate deal, we need this and this and the agent.

It's very convenient for Otani, though. It doesn't seem like him. It's always everyone around. It does seem like he's a mark and he's being taken advantage of by people around him. You're the mark if you believe that. He's the one that you're telling you guys, no, it's not me. Everyone's just poor old me, Shohei Otani. Everyone's taking advantage of me.

Watch me pitch two innings. Watch me hit home runs. Watch me not steal bases this season. I feel like all these things happening to Shohei or what would happen to me if I had $700 million. Again, only one million base salary. Like gambling scandal. Like, this is like what would happen to me?

What would happen to you? Like, so the Powerball last night was five. I got an idea? I'm in. $500 million. What would you have done that you won the $500 million? Gambled a tonne. Because it seems like, I would have stressed getting it.

Like, do I have to go to Tallahassee? Who am I going to tell? I would just start stressing. Do you take the lump sum or you take it over? Oh, you got to go lump sum. You have to. I agree. Why is this even a discussion?

But I do like kind of the idea of the Bobby Bonilla type every year I get X, like, $17 million. That's a nice little yearly contract. I've got Shohei Otani, like, signing this contract for whatever it was, billion dollars. And then moving to Los Angeles and having all these new friends and him being like, man, this country is awesome. Everybody's so nice here. As soon as I moved to Los Angeles, everybody wants to be my friend. Stugats, you win the $500 million power ball.

You making this drive? No. If I don't do the lump sum and something like, does my family get it if something happens to me forever? Because I might not do the lump sum. If it's just something, I can guarantee my family will get $27 million a year. It's a good question. I think it's until you die.

I think you have one person that you can like bequeath it to or whatever. You know what? Then I might not do it, actually. I might go the. So like, you take the lump sum. The slow burn. It also depends on how you go. Keep in mind, like, if you're doing something that is expressly against your contract.

Yeah, I don't do anything. No, no, no. You're not going to have a contract with the state lottery. Like, if you... No, no, no. I mean, you were right. I'm sorry. I thought I was doing the Otani thing.

My bad. Like, I think if you win... I think that I read one time, if you win, like, $10,000... Like, the, you know, lottery for life or whatever. One of those where it's, like, $10,000 a week for the rest of your life. I think that it's, like, the rest of your life or 30 years or something. And if you die before 30 years, someone else will get it for the 30 years. But if you live longer than the 30 years, you have to assign someone, though.

You keep getting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, like a family member. Who will I? Assign a young person that you think will live 30 years. You would give it to Jeremy. Really? Who do you think would waste the money worse, Jeremy or Chris?

I think we know that question. Well, I mean, but Jeremy would waste it on charity. You would waste it on fun stuff. That's right. That's right. Dude, I would waste it. It's so much fun. Does anybody else that always keep an unchecked lottery ticket in their car just to have the

hope of, hey, I might be riding on a million bucks right now. Don't know it. Probably not, but if I check it, it's going to be amazing. Apparently, you can be incarcerated, and depending on the state, most states allow for the lottery payments to continue to an incarcerated. You know Florida allows it. We're not one of the ones that's like, nope, too much. But you're in prison.

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Stugats. This is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Does everyone here play lottery every now and then? No, it's got to be like 500 million. I play it all the time. I never play lot. I love a good scratchy.

I don't believe it. It's never going to win. I have to like see it in the news of how big it is. No, I have a, what, I have a lot. Man, my dad has influenced me in the weirdest ways. Whenever I drive long distances. You have major daddy issues. I think you would follow me on this.

Whenever I see some hole-in-the-wall gas station in some town called O'Dala Bankster. You feel like that's where the winning tickets are. I love this. I like that. You got to search around. Listen, they're not in Parkland. I can tell you that. But you get to pick your numbers.

No, no, that's not how it works. This guy doesn't get it. He doesn't play. He doesn't know what he's talking about. a few in that Los Angeles area recently, but I like driving through a town and you're thinking like this sounds like a lottery winner town. That's the dream. That's the dream is you go and you buy a ticket abroad somewhere like in a different state or whatever and that's where you win. And then like no one down here in South Florida is like, oh, someone won in South

Carolina. It's like, well, I don't know anyone in South Carolina. And boom, that's why I don't play. I don't know anyone that's ever won. No, but when you're driving through South Carolina, you buy the winning ticket there, you go, you claim it there. No one here in South Florida knows assumes you bought a ticket in South Carolina, it's the perfect crime. No one's going to know that you won. And if you keep the unchecked ticket in your car the entire time, right? And then you hear on the news,

oh, there's an unacclaimed $10 million prize in South Carolina. You're like, that could be me. And then you check your ticket and you're a millionaire. But then do you have to go back to the state? Is that like a hassle for the $10 million? You not want to do that? You can leave it. I'm going to go back to South Carolina for $10 million.

I'm busy, you know? I'm going to go back to the state. Columbia, South Carolina. They got something going on. $500 million. I'll never sell it in Columbia. What if you win the lotto, Izzy, and you have like a million dollar ticket, not like the main prize, but you win like one of those like, oh, you got all the numbers but the

Powerball, you have like a million dollar ticket that you just haven't checked and eventually you tossed it out or like expired after 90 days or whatever. Like how would you do with the fact? You never toss it out. I have this dream, right? But they expire. Do they? Yeah.

You only have a certain amount of time to claim it. Of course. Okay. Well, I got to check that date. So I will put expiration dates. I'll put alerts on my calendar. But I have a dream. Do you know the little checked things, right, where you can just, boop, do the little barcode and it tells you what you won? Well, I don't think those things are set up to say, you've just won $1 million. I think it'll say C-cashier. And so every time that I get one and it's just like kind of messed up and it says C-cashier, I'm just like, is this the one? Is this the one? And it's just like, no, there's nothing there. Powerball and Mega Millions usually give you 180 days to a year, depending on the state.

you're in. Most state lotteries give you between 90 days and one year. Hold on a second. How could they give you up to a year if sometimes you have to split it with other people? I don't know how that works. That's your business. Hang on. No, it's not your business because you have to split the total. No, but the lottery knows how many winners

there are and they know how they have to split it up. Oh, okay. So the person who won doesn't bring the ticket back, just doesn't get their money. So they still have to split it per how many winners there are. It's just a matter whether you're going to claim. Which is a scam. If you did win the lottery and have to share it, check in a year later. Hey, did those other folks claim their prize?

Because if not, it's got to come to me. What are you doing with the rest of that loot? Can't just go to waste. I love Izzy always thinking he has a chance. I mean, that's what life is, right? You always want to have hope. Just keep it in your car. Don't check it.

I know it's like state run, but like somebody in the lotto that's like got the, like, they play the lotter, right? Just if they win it, then they don't have to give any money out. What? I don't know. Follow me here. I don't know if there might be rules. I don't think if you work for the lottery, you could play the lottery. If I was like, let's say I'm the house, and it's like, okay, if you win the lottery, I have to pay it up.

I think they made a movie about that. I think this is why you haven't met any lottery winners because it's only the people who work in lottery and they don't actually share the money with anybody else. I'm just, I'm on to you, Lotto. So, yesterday, this is a true story, all right? I'm surprised it's taking me this long to bring it up. I ordered Uber Eats yesterday, and I got a little bit of a problem. Ty? For yourself or for the family?

Were you doing? Just for myself. It was one of those nights. Well, I don't know if you heard about my son. He dipped last night. went on his own and went to the Taco Bell drive-thru, all right? What did you get? Upon running away.

Thai food. Now, I don't order Thai food through Uber Eats. You order straight from the place, all right? But I ordered Uber Eats last night, Chipotle. All right, ordered Chipotle. Was this because your son went to a Taco Bell and you're like, I want a more upscale concept? One-upped them? No, this was before that.

You get that Adobe Ranch for God? This was earlier in the night. Do you consider that running away from home? Like, if you relive this story in five years, you say, remember that time you ran away from home? No, he went to his friend's house to play poker. Like, he didn't run away from home. Oh, who is this kid? Gambling, too.

Jeez, Louise. This kid seems awesome. Anyway, so I ordered... So much cooler than dad. I ordered Uber Eats last night from Chipotle, got myself, like, the crux of my order. I got a cassidia, all right? And in the way that they deliver the cassidia to you, it's like a, it's, what's not a tray, but the thing with like the three things in it

yes you ordered this for you and not for a six year old okay anyway not the point steak and chicken that's a good meal it's a matter with you go bowl or burrito it comes with that honey bowl or burrito okay can you just listen to the story my god so it's in the packaging

whatever you know and Jeremy's right where it's got the casadia and then there's like these three slots for sides oh I love that part I go rice I go casso and that third one's a wild card sometimes I go pico Sometimes it goes sour cream. We had rice and I had cheese and I had sour cream.

Those were the shorty sides. Okay, it's great. That's fire, right? Except the order comes, I open up the package. There's no cassidia. Oh, my God. What? Terrible.

The sour cream is there. Oh, that's bad. The rice is there. The sides are there. There's no cassidia. It's not there. Right. How long was it at your door?

Are you on Atkins? I got it immediately. I don't, maybe your kid went and ate your dinner and then he put it back. These kids running rampant in your house. There's no case of deal. So what'd you do? Well, here's the problem. There's no, like, phone number you call for Uber Eats.

You go on the app, and it's like they got all these questions, you know, and it's like, what's the problem with your order? And then they have, like, a list of things. And, okay, so obviously, I click on, you know, missing items. and, again, there's no one you could speak to. And so they click on missing items, cassidia, nowhere to be found. And, like, I didn't order sour cream for dinner. And you eventually get a message back.

Not even long later. It only took like 20 minutes. Get a message. Sorry for this inconvenience, blah, blah, blah. The food's cold already. I mean, they gave me. Well, I don't know if the food's cold. That's the point, Stu, God.

It wasn't there, too. This has happened a lot to me, and my wife's great at this. She gets something in that app, and all of a sudden we get, like, $28 back or something. So I get the credit. They give me back $2. Oh, my gosh. No way. I've been there.

How often have you complained about Uber Eats? Because that also plays into their... I have complained, but it's been a long time. Sometimes that plays into their algo. That's why I said dangerous game. Is this an account that cries wolf potentially? That is BS, though. Sometimes what they'll do...

And I can't call anyone. One of the worst things that they do is, okay, we'll give you a refund for the missing cassidia, but we're still going to charge you for the sour cream. As if I just want to eat the sour cream still, I need the cassidia. to justify the sour cream purchase. And it doesn't help.

Like, you get that credit back. I mean, $2 stinks. But even if you get $20 back, you're like, I'm still not happy. Wait, they refunded you plus $2? They gave me back $2. How much did it cost? It was probably like $16. So did you say, hey, we're short here?

That's the point. There's nowhere to call. Well, hit them up whoever you spoke to before. No, that's the end of it. There's nothing else. There is no cost. It's expensive cheese. Hit me up offline.

I got a number for you. Uber one. little trick you don't know about. You actually speak to human beings and they do everything for you right away. But here's the worst possible situation. You got Uber Eats delivery. I did Uber Eats pickup, okay? And I go there and I was driving home. You just want to pay idiot fees is what you're doing. Just call the restaurant. I've done it before. That's a good idea. You guys are, oh boy. I was driving home and I was just going to scoop in and pick it up. Okay. And so I ordered some things and it's a place I go all the time. In fact,

a few people there. If they see me, they, oh, hey, how you doing? So I don't check. I don't check the bag if it's a pickup order. If it's a place I trust, I just go home with my stuff. Well, normally they have the sticker too on the bag. Yeah, the sticker's supposed to tell you what's in there, right? So I get home, I got a chicken teaser salad. No chicken. They forgot to put the chicken on the side. But it's a pickup order, Zaz.

I can't just go in there and say, oh, missing item. They're like, you picked it up. You're supposed to check yourself. And so I write them a little note and says, we'll get back to you. They never got back to me. I just checked my wallet's still empty. It's a scam. A good restaurant will go through the boxes for you.

Flanagan's, every single time I go to a Flanagan's, they make sure, and they show me, Mike knows this, all my food is there. It's a lot of pipe in circumstances. And also I'm like, you don't have to. Veteran. Don't release the heat as a part of my. No, no, no, I don't want to check. I trust you guys.

Stugats, quick conclusion of the story. I mean, the Uber driver ate Mike Isidia, right? Just the tortilla? Like, there's no way that Chipole packed it without. the case of deal that seems impossible what was he eight yeah I don't I think they just screwed up what'd you do do you order again like a no well

you got two dollars but now I think it out of his son kicked him out of a microwave real cheese or something or mac and cheese Don Lebertard the elephant went into a 7-11 and bought a pack of cigarettes but my question to Ron is this Stugats that joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to didn't we all just stared at you this is the Don Lebertar show with a two gods let's bring aboard

Ron McGill here Ron, how you doing? Have you ever had issues with your Uber Eats order like that? I have never done an Uber Eats order in my life. Wow.

Oh, you're a Dordash guy? What's the deal? No, I got a wife who cooks so amazingly well. It has amazing food all the time. What is that like? What is that like? That's living the dream, brother.

So the Uber E's app is not even on your phone. You don't even have a section of your phone for food delivery. Nothing for food delivery at all. You don't, you've never done takeout? Rhonda cooks. You know, the takeout that I've done is we've got this, this, you know, little truck restaurant who does this incredible.

A food truck. Yeah, yeah. But does this incredible turrasco and picagna steak? Oh, my God. So every now and then I'll say, listen, I'll go get it. But she'll cook. like, you know, the incredible side dishes and stuff, and I'll go get the steak. Why did we settle for food truck as a way to describe it?

It should be a truck restaurant. Our name is Rita. Yeah, I, that went play. Ron, why didn't you correct him? Why do you let him do that? Listen, I'm just, I'm old and old school, you know, so I've, but I do use Uber all the time when I travel. Uber comfort.

Uber comfort, don't talk to me, and I want it cool. That's all I ask for it. Ron, one of the guys that works here, Ethan, brought his dog to work last week and the dog was limping around and we all felt terrible and Ethan was kind of a deadbeat dog owner and he didn't do anything about it until, you know, God knows when. He took the dog to the vet. The dog tore its ACL, all right? Turned out the, look, you can see in the video now, dog is limping, not putting any pressure on its back left leg. tore its ACL earlier the day. It's forced to limping, man. It's not putting any weight on the way. Hear that, Ethan?

Immediate go to the vet. So what, like, what is the, what happens to a dog with a torn ACO? Is it like a cast? Is it an operation? What do you do? Yeah, there is an operation for it. I mean, it's an orthopedic surgery, just like you were doing a human being. It's very costly. And the recovery is a bigger challenge, of course, because you can't tell the dog,

listen, you can't do this, you can't do that. So they come up with different types of braces or cash or whatever necessary to isolate that for proper healing. Now, this is the second consecutive dog that Ethan has had. It was torn his or her ACL. Is there something that the owner is doing for this pattern of injury? I think it's time to file a report with, you know, doggy services to find out what's going on there because I've never had a dog and I've had dogs on my life tear in ACL.

I don't know what he's doing with these dogs. If you're the vet and you see someone bring in the dog that's an incredible pain torn ACL, and you have to choose, do I euthanize the dog or do I euthanize a human? Which would you choose? Sophie's choice. Philly, please. It's a good question. It's easy, right?

Really? Repeat offender. I don't euthanize either one of them. I treat it and I try to kill the dog. Nailed it. Ron, I got a video for you here. All right. This video, there's a crab, all right?

And apparently this crab is going to amputate its own claw. I'm afraid of crabs. I'll go near crabs, but take a look at this and tell me what's going on here. All right, so it's, yeah, look at that. It's like going to chop up. Whoa! Whoa! Just straight up ripped off its arm.

Why would it do that? As if it were a fake limb? You know, now, I know that crabs have the ability, of course, to regenerate their claws. And listen, I don't profess to be a crab expert here, but maybe I'm speculating that it saw a potential predator heading its way. And he said, listen, I'm going to leave you a bone and leave me alone. You know, lizards do that with their tails. If they get threatened, they can actually shed their tail. The tail stays there and the animal goes out to the tail and eats the tail and the lizard gets away.

The crab may have looked at this as a way to deter the focus of a predator and focus it on the claw and he can get away. That's brilliant. So you just like have snacks in your pockets while you're running away from predators. Here, here's a snack. That's a heavy play. It's delicious. That's a great analogy. That's a great analogy.

What you're doing is you're setting bait to deter the attention off of, you know, a fatal attack. Man, I feel like the crab there, it's almost like he holds up his, his, is it an arm or a leg, Ron? What should I call it? It's a claw. Okay, neither. He holds up his claw. It's almost like he shows like, hey, look what I got over here, guys. And then he snaps it off.

Man, we're giving this dumb crab, a lot of credit. Right. That all appeared that way. Well, listen, you know, there are things that are associated with intelligence and there are things that are associated with instinct. And that might simply just be an instinct for survival. All right, I got another video for you here, Ron. Show me this. So there's an animal sanctuary worker and an alligator, and it leads this alligator on a chase

to show what happens when a gator gets used to being fed by humans. All right. Now, let's take a look at this here. All right. So there you got the gator. You got the person. They're only like a few feet away. I thought Ron was the one who was supposed to do.

All right, take it away, Ron. Go ahead. What's up? Yeah, it's exactly what he's doing here. This is an alligator that has obviously been accustomed to being fed. by this person. Guy's got a little stick in his hand. This is probably the way, or it's a girl, actually, who actually, you know, feeds him all the time this way. And that's what he's doing. He's just responding to the feeding. And then she throws the food. So she just reinforces it

for God's sake. So, you know, I don't know what they're trying to prove here. This is that Gator boys thing, which, you know, a lot of times just to be a little extreme sometimes. You know, this is videos for clicks. This is what I call videos for clicks. Ron, I was at a rental house in Orlando that had, you know, that sort of man-made body of water behind it. And there was an alligator or crocodile, I couldn't tell the difference, in the water. And there's neighbors of these rental houses going toward the water with their children to check it out and point at it. Everybody at our house stayed inside, Ron, should you ever go out and, hey, look at the alligators if you're not from Florida. This is a message for everybody, not from Florida.

I know this answer. Go ahead, Ron. You muted yourself. I'm going to pretend I know what you're saying. But the bottom line is, I got the point. you should not go up to the shoreline where there's an alligator. You can observe an alligator from a distance, 25, 30 feet. If you keep that distance, you should be okay.

An alligator is not going to come out of the water after you. If you stay 25 to 30 feet away from the water's edge. Like Israel, I can never tell the difference. I know crocodile alligator one's pointing and the other one's flat. But can you give me like a way that I will remember? Like, is there a wording that I'll always, so I'll never forget. Can you tell me? Just color, basically color.

crocodiles tend to be an olive green alligators are black so you know that's that's a giveaway right away also a crocodile's eyes will tend to be that that kind of a light green color alligator eyes tend to be dark brown to black you know the shape of the snout is you shape alligator v-shaped crocodile I don't know what kind of association you use there but I just color color okay but hold on a second if I don't see color and you're screwed okay but hold on a second like Israel, okay, Ron is saying that a crocodile will be green, alligator will be more black. Florida Gators, like, the mascot is green. Yeah, that's a misnomer. Yeah, yeah, that is a misnomer. So the mascot for the gator should be black? Yeah, I feel like we should talk to the president of the U.S. Wow.

That's a crook. Wow. Actually, it should be. And I'm a proud Florida gator, but yes, to have an alligator green is a total misnomer. Crocodiles are green. I gotta be honest of you it's kind of a shock Florida Crocs

Learn something new every day on this wonderful podcast Got another one for you here Ron All right So here's a leopard And it's gonna catch a crocodile All right A leopard is

Let Ron do it I'm sure that this is a jaguar Catching a Cayman Yes that's what this is This is a Jaguar catching a Cayman I actually saw this happen in Brazil In the Pontinal This is a

I'm not going to say It's a common occurrence but it's not terribly rare. These jaguars have learned how to catch Cayman, and they do so. You can see a string of these videos. You'll actually see the video of the actual catch. You'll see them jumping in the water,

lunging, going on the water, and pulling this thing out of the water. It's pretty incredible. Is that crocodile still alive in that moment? Yes, that Cayman is still alive in that moment. Jaguars have one of the most powerful bites of any of the big cats, especially for ratio to their weight.

And what they do is they instinctively would bite the back of the neck and they'll sever the spinal cord so the animal can no longer fight. Why are jaguars so good at that? Like how they're just born being able to do that? They have adapted living. You know, they're one of the few cats that like the water. They jump in the water.

They swim all the time. I've got, you know, images of these jaguars swimming across the rivers there in the Pantanah. And they will hunt fish. They will hunt Cayman and incredibly adapt swimmers. They enjoy the water and they're very well-structured for living that water life. Rob, which animal? has the most powerful bite. I believe it's a crocodile.

I believe it's a saltwater crocodile has the most powerful bite. I know in the mammal world, I think it's a hyena. A hyena is the only predator that has the power and the two structure to actually break through elephant bone

to eat tomorrow. So I believe that's a hyena. But don't hold me to that. That's just what I believe. I think it's the hyena mammal and the crocodile overall. You know, it's a thousand pounds of pressure per square.

What about the hippo chomp? Hi. Hippo is also very powerful. I'm not sure exactly what the ratio is, but it's a very powerful. I have seen a hippo, you know, tear a crocodile up. So it is a very powerful bite. But I think for square inch, the actual force, I think the crocodile is the most powerful. Ron, we have a video of a crab eating a grape. And maybe we can put that up while I'm asking you this question. But my favorite videos, perhaps on all of the internet, is a raccoon being friends with a human and then being fed little tiny foods. Now, the best part about it is, they do a voiceover on the raccoon that always slaps but i'm curious uh should i be friends with a raccoon because i've been scared of them my entire life uh and you know why does he stay scared of them because raccoons change in a heartbeat those things are like they can be out of their minds people look at raccoons they have a cute face but uh they can turn into the little devils and i mean that wholeheartedly even if they're eating grapes even if they're eating grapes

But they're so adorable and they're eating great. And they are adorable. And you'll see them, you know, they take their food and they put it in the water and they rub their hands together. They're very tactile. They look like little robbers. They make little noises, you know, a little cute little noises they make to do not befriend raccoons. So do I need a stage in intervention? Because my father-in-law has like a pack, a family of raccoons that come up to the back patio door.

And he feeds them. Of course he feeds him. Of course he does. That's why they come back. Yeah, he's been doing this for over a year now. Mike at night. if they're there and he opens the door, is it just a bunch of eyeballs? I hate it because I have a dog that occasionally spends the night over there and you never know

what's back there. I hate it. Listen, Mike, go on, go online and you'll see these raccoons. This woman who started feeding two raccoons in her yard. And in one week, she's got 30 raccoons at her back door. I don't like it. I don't like it. So they're talking to each other and they're like, hey, I got to think. Well, they do. They communicate. They say, hey, listen, the buffet's over here. Okay. And they can become real problems. Now, first of all, raccoons are one of the major carriers of rabies. When you have that many animals in one place, they're a spreader of disease, whether it be external, you know, external parasites, fleas and ticks, whether it be the internal parasites, worms, things like that, that they pass to their feces. The bottom line is that many animals in one place is not healthy

for anybody. So don't feed these wild animals, please. Ron are possums in the same category because I saw a possum a couple nights ago in my yard. Like the lights were off. My dogs were outside running A possum or an opossum? That's an opossum, but yeah. It's both. It's both. It's confusing, right, Stugats? Yes.

O possum, not. It's lazy. It's what it is. People don't want to say, oh, possum, they just go possum. It saves you time. But the possum is a much more solitary animal. You won't find possums congregating.

The only time you see possums together is a mother with a bunch of her, you know, siblings coming out of the pouch are on her back. But they're much more solitary. And they don't, they don't respond like raccoons due to being fed. But is it the same fear, like rabies and stuff? Because what happened was is the dog, the dog is outside, going outside at the night.

And then I open the door to let the dog in, and I see a possum or an opossum. The irony is this, Billy, that possums, believe it or not, though it's not impossible, it's very improbable that they can catch rabies. Why? Because their body temperature is higher than most other mammals. And that body temperature does not allow for rabies to thrive. There you go. There's a picture of people feeding their freaking raccoons in the yard. You have to sell this house.

Ron, what's a dead giveaway for an animal that has rabies? You know, there really is no dead giveaway. We've heard the, you know, the common narrative, oh, that's when it's salivating. It comes running after your head. That's not true? Well, it can be that. What if it's an animal that looks kind of drunk.

It's just kind of wandering around with his head bobbing and kind of falling to the side. It looks, you know, terribly inebriated. So don't think that just because this animal is not being aggressive, not snarling, or not drooling that it doesn't have rabies. I think my dad has rabies. It looks totally normal. At my old home in my neighborhood, I was walking my dog, and to my left, there was a raccoon that was out during the daytime displaying these characteristics.

And I did call animal control. There's another big red flag if this nocturnal creature is out during the day looking like that. Call animal control? Yeah. Call animal control. Absolutely. Ron, excellent job. Tell us all the good things you got going on here.

Well, we got the zoo camp just finished up because school starts now on Thursday, which is, you know, going to be another headache. But we've got, you know, a lot of construction going on here. Pretty soon we're going to be introducing a couple of new animals, new species for the zoo. I'm not going to really reveal it yet. I'll let you know when that happens. But listen, there's always stuff happening. We've got several animals that are pregnant that are going to be hopefully giving birth sometime soon. We've got some newly hatched birds going out in the aviary. I mean, it's all kinds of stuff happening. There's never the same thing on every day.

Give us a hint on the new animals. Like, make a noise. Make the noise of the animals. We'll try it again. Dan. Whales. You got a whale? No, but I can understand why you might think of it, though, but it's not a whale.

Let me hear it again. Let me hear it again. Yeah, do it one more time. Oh, geez. Email. Baby whale. That was my email. Sorry about that.

Good job, Ron. Once again, I forgot. It's my bad. We should have welcomed you in with a Happy World Lion Day two days ago. No worries, man. But I appreciate it, Izzy. It makes me know that you care. Do the sound again.

One more time. Oh, my God. Guys, there it is. Another email. Yeah. I'm really good at that. See, Ron. See, Ron.

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