The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Roy & David Smell Like Brian Skrudland

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

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Next person, penalty box. Geno Vanelli. Yeah, Geno Oriy't. That's it, oh now we can't. Next person, penalty box. Gino Vannelli. Yeah, Gino Ariema. Let's go out to Roy, he is with the Panthers, he is on the ice, he is ready to give us an update on everything that's happening with the Florida Panthers. This is exactly where all hockey standups should be and how all hockey standups should look. Mike Ryan, Roy, I'm

curious your opinion here because the hockey show that is often on Fridays was able to react to this in real time, correct? When this happened last week, Mike Ryan is not here for Brad Marshawn, though. How do you feel? That is a minority opinion I feel like he's expressing on behalf of Panther fans I do not believe that he speaks for all Panther fans that if you can get a 36 year old Brad Marshawn for $125,000 you absolutely end up doing that Roy. Where are you and thank you for joining us from the arena What can you give us in the way of information over there? Still injured. He's going to possibly be on the ice to do some stuff

but right now he's gonna travel with the team up to Boston and that's when he's gonna finally say goodbye to his former teammates and he actually got broken up a little bit about talking about his time in Boston and how that went down before he was traded so right now we're waiting for him to come back into the lineup but can you imagine him being on that second line with Sam Bennett and Matti Kachuk? Oh, the Panthers would be the most hated team in the league. Roy, he called Sam Bennett a scumbag today, didn't he? Yes he did.

He did it in a joking fashion, yes. He actually loved him and they got together during the Four Nations tournament. Him, Sam Bennett, and Sam Reinhardt, they played together for Team Canada. And it seems like they patched things up, considering what happened last year in the playoffs when he got punched in the face by Sam Bennett. Billy mentioned earlier that it seems wildly inefficient to have Marchand fly down here to do this press conference,

only to go right back up there and be there with the team for the first road game in Boston. Yeah, it is kind of inefficient, but you know, he had to get down here, get downloaded on the actual goings on with the team for the first road game in Boston. Yeah it is kind of inefficient but you know he had to get down here get downloaded on the actual goings-on with the team and and David Dwork is right next to me but yeah I mean it does seem inefficient for him to go down and then go back up but he has to get his stuff and everything but he's traveling with the team throughout the entire road trip a six game road trip coming up for the Panthers. What is the

level I'd like to talk to Dwork here if you don't mind, since he came into the shot awkwardly and you pointed out, I thought it would have been slightly more amusing if he had just awkwardly appeared and then left. But David Dwork, your co-host on the hockey show that sometimes appears on Friday, what would you give us in the way of fan and customer reaction to the Florida Panthers behaving like the Tampa Bay Lightning, stashing away Kachuk so that they could get a Marchand? I think there's a lot of anger in the world out there and I think Panther fans don't give

a bleep about it because they were the ones that were angry. Now they have this opportunity to do what teams wish they could do. The reaction on Twitter has been fun to see just because I think from our perspective we're just the basting in the greatness of what the Panthers are doing right now and everyone else can just kind of cry about it. Roy, I still am confused at watching and seeing the Florida Panthers after 30 years behave like an adult mature franchise that reacts competently to what it is that their customers want. I know it's weird isn't it'm certainly I'm getting used to it now

It's been I don't know how long has Bozey. Oh been a in charge as general manager five years now So I'm starting to get finally get used to it an actual responsible stable organization that's playing hockey down here And it's actually fun to see given the history is it possible that? That the Panthers traded for Brad to ruin the end of his career? Cause they have like such a wealth of talent that they've decided, you know what we're gonna do? We're just gonna mess with this guy. Cause we hate him and we're gonna make sure

that he's miserable. You put on a good show today, you give him the sweater, you give him the hat, all of everybody's, you know, happy go lucky and then you really make the rest of his career difficult. Well, considering that Brad Marshawn actually requested to be traded here, I doubt that's the case. But hey, do what you want to do, Billy. He always will.

It doesn't seem like there's a lot of energy and enthusiasm where you are, though. I don't feel like that is pulsating hockey nation everywhere around you. I'm not feeling the kind of enthusiasm around the Panthers that I've been told exists, that you feel like you're standing in the middle of something cold and antiseptic. Because nobody's here, Dan.

Practice hasn't started yet, and as soon as practice starts, I believe it might be. Is it open practice today? No. No, it's not open practice today. So yeah, there's not a lot of excitement because there are no fans here. Okay. Wow. Hey, Roy, where would you rank Geno Smith

among NFL quarterback? We can't talk about Geno Smith. He's just writing this down. We'll see, let's hear his. Just curious. Hold on, listen. I'm not going to the penalty box when I get to the studio tomorrow,

so you're not gonna bait me into that. No, we're sure. All right, but pick a number between 10 and 15. 10 and 15? Yeah. Lower the bar. 12. Oh! That's where Greg had him. That's where Greg had them.

That's where Greg had them. Putting you down for team 12. Incredible. All right, thank you, Roy. We appreciate the coverage from an empty and cold arena where the players are not yet practicing. That locker room still smells bad though, right? No matter whether they're not sweaty or are sweaty,

the locker room always smells like mildew and must. They have invested in an exhaust fan, so it's not as smelly. So, the first. Okay, good, breaking news. Each locker has its own little air conditioning filter that filters air. Still stinks. It smells like Brian Scroogeland.

It does still smell like Brian Scroogeland, that's right, and that's not a good smell. It's swampy and it's not good, even though. Hockey's the smelliest sport, right? Balls pretty bad hockey though. I think hockey's by far the worst then it goes football soccer Baseball and then I don't smells great. Yeah golf doesn't smell that bad Football tends to be a bigger locker room with more with more more players in it So there's more general open air for some reason the hockey locker room is smaller than I would like it to be but they also

have fewer players right I that the hockey locker room is a is a little more cramped than it needs to be I feel like all hockey do I have this wrong Roy I feel like all hockey locker rooms need to be twice as large as they actually are but it was only what 18 to 20 players in a locker room as opposed to a football team which has about 60 so yeah it does need to be a bit bigger especially the Panthers locker room I mean that arena has been what 1998 it's over 20 years old so they're not gonna build a bigger locker room in there for them unless they get a new arena which I hope champions deserve a bigger locker room yeah yeah for sure well absolutely

they're the brand new facility is amazing one of the big upgrades in all the sports from like team HQ's but Roy I'm coming to grips with the fact that I'm in the minority here I think most Panther fans took them a second to warm up to it but when they realized what they gave up which is next to nothing and the fact that they got to hurt Boston fans yet again without even doing something on the ice, they're in on this concept. But for me, I'm always gonna hate them. I like hating them. I'm sure there's a hypothetical that you could craft a game-winning goal to send the Panthers to the Stanley Cup final or a

huge goal in the Stanley Cup final where I may crack. But as someone that has sat on my hands every time Alonzo Mourning is introduced at the AAA and maintaining that level of resentment, I don't think I'm gonna budge on this one. I'm gonna continue hating Brad Marshawn. Where do you align yourself with? Well, Brad Marshawn as a person, as a human being, I've changed my mind about him maybe three years ago for a stance on Tony D'Angelo for a stance on the Bruins trying to sign a prospect by the name of Mitchell Miller who bullied a developmentally disabled black kid by making him eat a piece of candy out of a urinal

and repeatedly called him the N-word and the Bruins decided not to sign him based on how Brad Marshawn and a couple of the other players felt on the team. So as a person, as a person, I definitely have turned around on him. He seems like a stand up guy. But as a player, he's perfect for this team. Absolutely perfect for this team. What was that sound? Well, the PR person dropping, hearing Roy invoke that pass. I thought you were going to go face licking. I thought Mike Ryan was down on Marshand as a person. Mike Ryan?

Yeah I'm down. I don't like him as a person or a player but whatever he's a fourth liner. It's alright maybe sometimes we'll swap Greer for him. He's a fourth liner? Yeah yeah I mean go through our wingers who do you rate more? A bad player, bad person. Occasionally if we want to spark maybe dress him occasionally that's that's cool with me but I'm playing Greer over him. Not taking Jesper out. Yeah I doubt that. Not taking Mackie out. Are you taking with me, but I'm playing Greer over him not taking Chesper. I doubt that he's not taking Mackie out I'm are you taking Mackie out? I'm not taking Mackie out Verhagy seem to figure it out a little bit. I'm gonna lead the lineup beater. I'm gonna lead the lineup. I just

See you later. Let's let's not marry ourselves to the idea that Brad Marsh on has to play every game is what I'm saying Huh is this this is this the best and the deepest Panther team there has ever been? Yeah. Dwarf, yes Roy, yes. Coming into, coming into March, they were already favored to get out of the East and make the final, but after this trade deadline,

I think it's safe to say that the Stanley Cup. Who do you fear the most? Rose. I would say Colorado is probably a good team to be fearing right now. I don't fear the Jets. I do. I am here for off-mike comedy.

They've got amazing goaltending, and they're really deep. I'm also here for you just naming teams in the Western Conference, because that ain't our problem till we get to our third straight Stanley Cup final, potentially. Yeah, Mike's right. It's not our problem till we get to our third straight Stanley Cup final potentially. Yeah Mike's right it's not our problem right now we're worried about it come late June. You don't fear of Etchkin? No no I think they might not make it out of first round. Really? They're not built for the playoffs. They're not built for the playoffs. They're built like the Panthers president's trophy team exciting

hockey bat end-to-end rushes, but when you get to the playoffs or everybody starts beating the snot out of each other, doesn't really work that well. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate all of your work on the hockey show and beyond. They are very excited. Everything around the Panthers is feeling championship excellent and Bill Zito is somebody who is climbing up the ranks in terms of culture and legacy making executives in the history of South Florida because he's got a lot of popularity as it regards the architecture of that. Howdy folks, it's Mike Ryan.

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McOva rated this is the down Libertar show with a stew guards We have learned that it is difficult to stay atop the championship mountain, not just in hockey, but you saw that Denver won the championship and now yesterday you're watching and Denver is getting run out of the building late in the game against Oklahoma City because Oklahoma City is going to be good for a really long time. And when that game got to deciding time yesterday the best offensive player

I've ever seen stopped mattering. What happens with Denver when Jokic is on the court and when he's off the court is a bit stupefying architecturally that they haven't gotten him more help in Denver. He... he puts up the first thirty twenty twenty in league history and you understand how disorienting it is to have the first thirty twenty twenty in league history uh... delivered by somebody who talks about their game this way i can't don't get guys did you see me play? I never dunk.

Did you see me dunk? I never dunk. What is happening in the league? What is happening in this league? It is so strange to see him go for 30, 20, and 20 and be entirely unstoppable, but Denver hasn't gotten him enough help. He should make the mess that Jimmy made even though he won the championship because he's like, you guys can't do better than Eric Gordon. You found your Miles Garrett. You found, we found our Joey football.

He's in Denver. The problem with him though is when he says I don't wanna play basketball, I won't come back, he really won't. If he's gone, he's not gonna come back. Yeah, unlike Miles Garrett, I believe every word that he would say about the sport of basketball and not wanting to play it and being willing

to hold out for millions and millions. Toronto was a one year champion and then fell to the bottom of the league. Denver has not fallen to the bottom of the league, but they also haven't gotten any better since winning the championship. And a whole lot of teams around them have gotten better when they've been basically the same 55-win team. And Michael Porter is saying that they might be in a last dance type of situation this

year where it gets broken up if they don't win a championship and I don't know how he's doing the the arithmetic on that one because it's not going to be a last dance situation where they get rid of Jokic they might get rid of Michael Porter they might get rid of Aaron Gordon but when you've got Jamal Murray and Jokic together and that's not good enough anymore, what's happening in Cleveland and Oklahoma City suggests that the league has passed them by and obviously Boston is still there beating the Lakers and LeBron is leaving the game as Jason Tatum goes for his usual quiet 40. All right and let's pump the brakes on comparing us to the last dance.

Like Dan already outlined, you're a one-time champion. It's like Van Vliet going like, alright, we're in our last dance phase here. Let's relax. Let's win more than one. It's always, though, something that I enjoy monitoring when the rest of the league gets competitive on what the championship standard is and then passes the Championship standard because we're all watching Denver

We saw what it took to win the championship and all of us are looking at that and saying that's not good enough anymore The league has elevated beyond where I've seen a lot of people including Greg Cody complaining about all the leads that the Miami Heat are blowing and then Blaming that on Eric's bolster when what's actually happening there is These games are decided in the fourth quarter the way that OKC in Denver was yesterday The games closed through three quarters and in the fourth quarter you just see OKC run away The Miami Heat are so limited offensively that when it gets tight late they can't hold on to their leads because offensively they are so wildly limited and you can sit here and say

they've got a bunch of double-digit leads but in that league that has ceased to matter. That's not something that matters anymore that you have a double digit league that they can be erased the moment that a team makes four threes and so I don't know what your assessment is there but it's not enough anymore to have just Jokic doing MVP things because they may take the MVP away from him because they're bored by him but he's having his best season. Statistically, that human being is getting better and the architecture around him isn't getting better. It's not, that's not good enough anymore. We're in consensus on that, correct? What was good enough a few years ago is no longer good

enough in Denver, even though the MVP is better than he's ever been. I think you're giving me a storyline that might actually get me to tune in for basketball reasons. I think a lot of it has to do with how humanizing that clip was. That's the funniest Yoke-Itch clip I've seen in a long time. Really good. Him talking to kids and just flatly saying no I'm this dominant player maybe the greatest offensive force ever and I don't dunk. I don't do that. So when you have the tinge of doubt and there's more than a tinge when it comes to Denver, you have this guy being a little bit more affable and now he has all the tools, he's unstoppable,

but he's got all this doubt about this team. And you add a little last dance element, I'm in on the nuggets. Can you guys explain to me why it is that we do what it is that we did earlier in the show with OKC in Cleveland that would make those fan bases insane about how dismissive we are about their teams being excellent and how bad a finals that would be if it's OKC and Cleveland. Can you explain to me why it is and how it is we do that with our big market bias where if I took those teams and simply

put them in lakers uniforms in nicks uniforms in celtics uniforms i've got a kind of history in it that makes the finals more interesting than this would be even though that that it is not unclear the two best teams during the regular season boston will have something to say about that in the postseason but during the regular season these are the two best teams and if I tell an audience outside of basketball

not the basketball heads here are you true worthy finals teams why is it that I make it so small market onerous that I offend OKC and Cleveland's fan base when I say the nation doesn't want to watch that even though basketball fans do i'd i'd think you're looking at it through a to uh... a likely tv ratings prism right because just interest i'm not doing tv ratings i'm just doing interest and just generally how we want storylines that are familiar we want the the history that were used to it takes us a minute to adapt to, what do you mean I have to be paying attention to how good Shea Gilder's Alexander is?

Or how good it is when it's Garland and Allen and Mobley and Mitchell? What do you mean I have to change how I do all of my information gathering on who's the best, because it's what I'm used to being the best as opposed to the new best. I don't, for a second, I totally understand where Cavs and Thunder fans are coming from, but we've been having these discussions about the NBA is at this inflection point,

people aren't tuning in as much, and it's all happening when Cleveland and Oklahoma City are at the top of their respective conferences and have been the best teams pretty much wire to wire here. Everyone's kind of bracing for that and the numbers are telling us they're not really digging it. We had a nice little pop on Christmas Day when it came to ratings, but generally across the board,

the story isn't a good one this year. They're asking Adams- Adam Silver every avail, what are you gonna do to change your sport? And this is all happening with Oklahoma City and Cleveland at Toppitt. It's not really working for the customer at large. I mean, everybody, by everybody, I mean people like us, probably want Knicks versus Lakers

or some city for city matchup like that. I don't, I'm confused. I want that. I don't I I'm confused I want excellence I don't care the uniforms that it wears. I think there's gonna be a growing appetite for Cavaliers and Thunder if coming into the finals these are the two best teams in the regular season SGA is is the next tier of all time superstar players perhaps I think this is a matchup that's gonna grow on people. I'm interested in that final. The problem is though, if the ratings are down

and casual fans aren't watching during the regular season when you see teams like the Cavaliers and the Thunder because you haven't been watching and you don't know how good the teams are, you don't have that connection point. So if you tune into the finals, you wanna see the finals, you wanna see the familiarity,

and you want it to feel bigger than it is, even if these are the two best teams in the league, you're not watching during the regular season. For whatever reason, one reason or another, the ratings have been down in the regular season. The All-Star game was kind of a mess, where they weren't really happy with the product, they weren't really happy with the competitions.

So, if you're trying to get the casuals to watch in the finals, the casuals are gonna want the teams that they know of, not necessarily the best teams, because they don't know these teams as the best teams, because they're not watching them as they're becoming the best teams, which is the problem the NBA is having. You don't have the fans that aren't watching every night knowing who the best players and best teams are,

because they just want to see LeBron James in every championship. I think part of that though is like a snake eating its tail because the coverage just focuses on the big market teams and the coverage in some respects is lazier. It's easier to talk about the Cowboys every day than to talk about the Bengals and the Browns. But as media continues to conglomerate,

I don't know if that's a word, and just get more condensed and focused into these big markets, then you're gonna get less and less really outstanding local coverage, and that's how it's been for the last few years. There's fewer opportunities to work in smaller markets now if you're a media member

than there is to work at one of these major networks, and they're just gonna keep covering what they always have been covering. It's a interesting, I guess, maybe just us conversation if people hate the media talk, but like whose responsibility does it become to fix it? Like is it the league or is it on the media partners? Because the media partners are just gonna go

to what they always go to where they know they're gonna get the numbers and they're not necessarily, like the national media isn't gonna necessarily invest in, you know what, I need to develop the fans' interest in the league and the product and getting them to know the players That's kind of on the league to let you know who their stars are and why you should be interested Where the the media partners just want the numbers so they just go to who they know will deliver them or who they hope will Deliver and there's always been skepticism for younger teams that are ascending the old theory that you have to suffer a little bit but in the few couple of years sample that we have of expanded playoffs and in this

load management era, there have been kind of some screwy NBA finals when before it used to be pretty predictable. You have a devalued regular season and fans are like, nah, I don't trust you to get past the second round just like you did last year, you fell on your face. So when you want to be serious and you want to actually clear some adversity in the postseason that's when I'll pay attention to you. I want to get the sound though of Charles Barkley going after Kendrick Perkins and ESPN in general in a way that bears monitoring Greg because you have heard Shaq and Charles doing something on inside the NBA that I believe doesn't get seen very often. They're headed

toward ESPN and they're complaining about heading over to ESPN. There's some discomforts involved. I know Charles doesn't want to work there I'm super interested to see how all of that plays out, but he's calling Coworkers fools and idiots or future co-workers because he's complaining about what Jessica just mentioned Which is that any time you turn into the main? industry Spokespeople on cheerleading and celebrating the sport. And I don't know whose responsibility it is here. Is it the media's responsibility to get fans properly informed and interested in change

and the newcomers? Because the newcomers are here. They've arrived. Anthony Edwards is the reason that OKC didn't advance last year. Minnesota's less good. OKC did advance last year. Minnesota's less good, OKC has done some suffering. That OKC team was really good last year. Young. This year, they're better. They've grown. Homegrown is an important piece to OKC. And what have they lost? Eleven times this year cleveland as i mentioned

three double-digit winning streaks this year they're dragging people charles barkley is saying of the media coverage what jessica saying which is if you can't just be talking about the lakers in steph all the time look at what lebron steph did on christmas day it's the only game that was able to put a dent against the NFL in terms of attracting people because we are lazy about liking what we've always liked. But respectfully, Charles Barkley doesn't watch

the majority of the teams in the league either. Like he never knows who's on what team coming into the league. Like he's the last person that should be criticizing media networks only showing the games of like five teams Yeah, I think I'm like the second to last because I'm not even the biggest NBA fan But I do think that you can speak to it more broadly just outside of the NBA where like I feel like the people that host a lot of these shows and like are sort of like the vocal leaders of the sports don't realize how much Fans listen to them when they're telling you a player is good or when they're telling you a team is good or a team is interesting. Like a lot of people do listen to that and it does impact the way they view something and if you're

just talking about the same teams being interesting and good over and over again like eventually you're probably gonna be like, ugh, the Thunder, like that's gross. But you know a decade ago when the Thunder were really good I don't think it was very hard for people to view them that way and be excited to see that team make a run. It's just like a lot of things have changed in the last decade with how we're viewing media. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, historically, in terms of like really touting the game and trying to be the type of entity that gets as many possible people in the tent and lifting up the product, that's not really what TNT has done with its basketball coverage. It

doesn't really lift up the product. Half the time it's the guys taking the piss about being bored on another blowout that's at halftime, and they're just joshing each other, and that's what people are drawn to, the personalities, and they're just perpetuating that. But when we talk about media responsibilities, and we talk about the main voices in the NBA,

not only talking about the same teams, but also gravitating toward the dramatic storylines that don't have much of anything to do with basketball. I'm gonna play some of this Charles Barkley sound. He's been doing it a lot of times. I'm not even sure this is the right sound because I asked them to get it now and it doesn't look like the sound that I'm looking for,

but I just wanted to ask the group and the people listening to this so that they understand the nature of the problem. If Shay Gilgis Alexander walked into your life right now, walked in front of you, would you recognize him? I'm asking general sports fan. Just because of the commercial, the What A Pro Wants. And he's tall. Yeah, he's very tall. Would you recognize him? I'm asking general sports fan. I mean- Just because of the commercial, the what a pro wants. And he's tall.

Yeah, he's very tall. And I would have been like, who's this tall guy? You look familiar, what a pro wants commercial. He's not that tall though, because I think you'd be, he's not walking in like seven footers walk into a room and you know that he's a basketball player. He's tall. I'm starting to realize, I think I watch the most NBA

of anyone in this room. I don't doubt it. That's this room. I don't doubt it It's a problem. I don't think that you do but let's see what she's every night with She watches the Knicks with regularity. I watched I watched basketball every night I watched also I watched all the women's conference tournaments this weekend. Wow, what a weekend UCLA big ten champs That will never not sound weird to me. However, I should not be the one watching the most pro basketball ever. Did you get mad at Draymond Green for going after your man's beloved Carl Anthony Towns unfairly by suggesting the other day and then apologizing awkwardly that Carl

Anthony Towns did not play in the Knicks Warriors game because he was afraid of Jimmy Butler? Um, okay, yes. Like the initial claim was weak, but then the apology was just so bad. The apology was like, uh, well, the show must go on. It was just like not really there. And it kind of bummed me out because yeah, Carl Anthony Towns was at a funeral, so he missed the game. Like one of his friends died of cancer or something. It was just very uncomfortable. The whole thing made me feel super uncomfortable to watch. Some people are really mad at Draymond, really mad. Like I saw Think Pieces calling for Draymond and Turner

to evaluate the relationship with Draymond. Yeah, that's a real bad look for Draymond, awful. Let's play the sound here of Charles Barkley going after what could be his future coworkers. I saw a fool idiot on TV talking about the Lakers saved the NBA. Saved the NBA? Yeah, yeah, he's an idiot and a fool,

but he know who he is. What's his name, Shaq? Which one are you talking about? Kendrick Perkins. Oh. He said, the Lakers, first of all, the Lakers had a great two weeks. He said the Lakers saved the NBA season.

That's because them fools on the other network, was we gonna be working for the next year? That's all they talk about. Let me tell y'all something. Tell me something. And first of all, I want all the smoke. I don't whistle when I walk by the graveyard or anything like that.

I don't whistle when I walk by the graveyard. I like that. I'm stealing that one. The Lakers are doing great. Got a long way to go. But the reason the season's been going great for the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder, y'all just want to talk about the Warriors and the Lakers. They're both doing great.

Don't get me wrong. If I turn out to be wrong, I got no problem with that. But y'all are idiots because y'all talk about the Lakers and the Warriors all the time. Do you know the history of whistling when you walk past a graveyard? Because I've heard the expression, but I don't know what it actually means. Do you...why do you whistle when you're going past a graveyard? I honestly don't know. To appear nonchalant, maybe?

To appear as if you're not frightened to death? The way he was using it is saying, I don't whistle when I walk past a graveyard, and I just don't know why someone whistles by a graveyard. Maybe that's a bad omen. You wake the dead, maybe. You're in a happy mood while walking past something somber. I don't know, my dad actually loves a graveyard.

I do and have never whistled in one. It's to pretend to be cheerful and not afraid of passing a graveyard. That makes sense. So did he use it correctly? I don't whistle when I walk past a graveyard. Did he use it correctly? I don't.

He did. Is he unbothered? Did he come off unbothered? Are you guys like my dad though? Like if my dad It's like we're traveling somewhere in our hotel. There's a graveyard. He's just like I'm gonna go walk over to the graveyard He just likes to time we stop a graveyard. You afraid of ghosts. No, no, I embrace them Have you seen one before? I think most ghosts are good. I have not I mean not in a physical sense, you know

Have you felt one? you know there Have you felt one? You know, there have been imaginary, perhaps, apparitions. You're in the garage late at night, all of a sudden you hear, is that Alan Cherry? No, not really. No. Why do you do this? What is it that you do?

Do you ever meet fellow grave lovers? Sometimes, yeah. It's surprising that you'll meet people who aren't there to see a loved one they're there because they're fascinated by history and graveyards are history I mean the I think the oldest one in the United States in Boston has you know like Civil War generals and everything buried next to you know 20 feet away from people who died a couple years ago there's older graveyards who just built stadiums on them.

Yeah, they're the sand patrols. You mean like Revolutionary War though? Yeah. Okay. There's also like ancient burial mounds all over. Yeah, we sop at a lot of them. I never pass a graveyard that I don't want to see. I do fancy a stroll through a graveyard if it's convenient. Nah, that's odd.

Chelsea played right next to a real old gothic graveyard and it's on the way over to the grounds. I like to cut through and just see the history. You know, you just small talk with people at the graveyards when you're there? Sometimes. Yeah? What's your ice breaker?

Do you ever whistle? I never, I have never, I'm not a whistler. My dad whistles a lot. But like, when we were in New Orleans, I loved the New Orleans graveyard with all the above-ground stuff and probably multiple and in and I had a conversation there with an older woman who was there not to see anyone but because she also was fascinated with graveyards maybe she was a ghost yeah how do you know how do I know she wasn't a ghost yeah I mean I

don't did you ask it's not like I poked her to see if my finger went through dust. You don't think this is weird, that all of this is strange? Certainly you're not running into several other people often that are interested in just going to a graveyard where, put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBittard Show, do you ever walk through the graveyard that doesn't have anyone in it who you know? I think a lot of people do, but I'm not one to strike up a conversation with a stranger, so.

But what is happening here that your family, your family clearly doesn't wanna do this with you, right? You're going, you're getting someplace with your family and you're, oh, there goes Dad again, he's wandering toward the graveyard. Like I can remember as a kid, like in in New Hampshire I don't even remember why we were there in Maine somewhere up north like we're out we're at our hotel and my dad's just like I'm gonna walk I saw a graveyard down the street I'm gonna go

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