The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Rubs Me The Right Way

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Ron Magill joins the show to talk about how he and Greg Cote have been promoting their book 'The Pride of a Lion', which reignites the discussion about whether listening to an audiobook counts as reading. Joel Embiid missed shoot-around with a migraine and Dan feels bad for him, as the show continues to discuss how he can silence Knicks fans and the garden under immense pressure in Game 5. Taylor will be there, how close is he to actually arriving in New York? Plus, Dan gets into a sports media discussion after it was announced Jason Kelce is heading to ESPN. Finally, we go further into the possible end of LeBron's career in Los Angeles and Taylor arrives in New York! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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FedEx. Thanks. No more questions. Always your answer for international shipping. FedEx. Where now meets next. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. There he is, one of the all-time favorites in the history of our show, Ron McGill. Look at him. He is, he's one of the all-time favorites in the history of our show, Ron McGill. Look at him. He's one of the all-time favorites. I would say he's the favorite.

I don't know. I mean, he's got the highest Q rating I know of. No one doesn't like Ron McGill. Excuse the double negative. He did a book with Greg Cody. He got Greg Cody to work hard. That is hard to do at this stage in his career. But he made Greg Cody care about an animal as well.

I wrote a book. Without working. A what? You wrote a what? A book, sorry, I don't know what happened there. Stugotsbook.com. Let's have that as the promotion, please. Let's have that be the commercial for I wrote a book.

I wrote a book. Order today and you get an autographed copy of my book. You wrote a razor. There's no selling out around here. We try to keep it about the art and the book that they did together, I will tell people, because we're selling books around here today,

Greg, you, when I say, when I make the joke, I don't know that you've made a lot of adult friends late in life because you respect them so much that you would take the time to work very hard for a year to craft the book about his story. I feel like you and Ron became friends in there, and I don't know you to make friends late in life. Right.

I wouldn't have done the book, and I was thrilled to be asked. I wouldn't have done the book if Ron wasn't a generous person uh... great at what he does a champion of animals uh... and wildlife uh... an institution in south florida everything about ron made me want to work with them and also it was something i'd never done before i'd never not written sports and so for the year or so that we collaborated on this book

it was a a joyful side road for me to take. I love everything about it. I'm thrilled the way the book came out and I'm glad it's doing well. But are you friends? Yeah, I think so. Okay. I think we were friends before then, weren't we? Well, we go way back, but I think we were casual friends. You know, I think we were like friendly acquaintances and everything. I never had you over my house for bacon. That's true. And boy, that bacon was so good. It's true. And boy that bacon. It's good bacon We ate it a couple of days later believe it or not. It was just

Best bacon I've ever had. That's right. Greg's wife has never shut up about it I don't think I've ever I don't intend to throw a wrench in this friendship You know me I'm not one to do so but I was looking on the social medias the other day and I saw Ron Promoting that he was gonna be at an art museum and he was gonna be telling the story of Quasi. And I said, you know what, I think that's Greg's story and Ron's story together. And now it seems like Ron's going on tour

telling Quasi's story sans Greg and it rubbed me a little bit the wrong way. Kind of felt like a band was going out there and just one singer singing the same song. Let it fit in. Billy, Billy. Billy. Billy.

Yes, sir. Listen, the Panthers are in the playoff, the Heat's in the playoff. It's not like Greg doesn't have a ton of stuff on his plate. So I'm trying to pick up the slack promoting the book because both of us benefit when I promote the book. And I think he's just too busy. Plus he looks like a freaking truck hit him. I don't want to put him in front of a bunch of kids looking like that.

It's going to scare him. It would. You know what? Ron promoting the book without me rubs me in the right way. Baby! And let me tell you why. I did two combined book promotions with Ron. One was at his zoo and one was at Books and Books.

They both attracted sellout crowds they were wonderful events and now i am thrilled but he is still promoting the book on the ground on the ground floor uh... without me because as he says i have a lot on my plate uh... with work uh... plus i have almost no interest in uh... you know speaking to a of

thirty five women and at a book club. You gotta sell books. I know, I mean unless they're all buying the Pride of the Lion. What do you mean? Just sold 100 more, just sold 100 more. What did you just do? Wait, you have. Edit that out, what I just said.

What kind of authoring promotion is that to say I wouldn't go ever to be with 35 women at a book club who are there to buy my book? I mean because Ron loves that enough for both of us. He's built to do that. It's actually about 60 women and it was great. They all bought books. It was great. Let's be honest. Who do you want showing up to that event?

Ron or Greg? Exactly. But I don't understand. It's not about who do I want showing up to that event. How are you actively against the people who are giving you money to buy a book and don't want to be around them? I am actively for people who buy this book. They're some of my favorite people.

You just don't want to meet them. You just don't want to be in their presence. They're book lovers and I love them, believe me. But you wouldn't want to go to something like this. Not particularly. Fair. You know. But this is how a book gets promoted books aren't doing great you

know great and that's what it is but no but i'm just saying in general reading right reading is not something that people are putting in their hands anymore what's it's true i mean nowadays people listen to a book and they call it reading bulletin if you listen to a book on audio thing you haven't read a book now i've read plenty of Bix. I'm sorry. But your Bix is gonna be on audio, isn't it?

If you listen to a book, you haven't read a book. I mean that literally. If you've read Heat 2 and I've listened to Heat 2, we both know the same amount about Heat 2. If this is how you listen to a book, if this is how you read a book in your earbuds, you're consuming a book, but you're not reading a book. Reading is a tactile experience. You have the book in your hand, you're actually physically turning pages. Okay. But I've consumed that book just as well as you've

consumed it. You have consumed it, but not as well. What do you mean? You've taken the second-hand road. Yeah? You've taken the secondhand road. Yeah. You've taken the easy way out. Who are you to tell me reading retention is better than audio retention? You know who's reading that book? The person speaking to you is reading that book. Yeah, they did a bang up job. You should hear the De Niro and Pacino impression. It's the same guy. You know what? People agree with me. Wait, what do you mean people agree with you? If you're hearing a a book you're not reading a book I'm not degrading people who do the audiobook thing. I'm just telling you it is most certainly are it is not a book reading

Experience you're going to do it the audio version of a book I mean, I don't know Ron is this even out on an audiobook I have no idea you and him did it and he wait a minute I would read the shit of that book. So wait, so wait, so audio I can't believe you guys haven't already thought of this Ron has to do that wildly unsurprised What Mike Ryan is if you guys were to do it that way with Billy popping out of the shadows? Quasies named that way. It's got a lot of ideas for book company What I would say if he's a delegate if Ron and Greg poured into the evolution of book promotion an audio version of this book with the sound effects

that Ron makes, you just said that you're having a better experience than reading because you get the Pacino impersonator. And he's saying, no. Did you know that Pacino says that it's not well known, but that character that he played in Heat was a Coke addict. They just wanted to be very subtle with him.

Okay, that's why. And his performance was pretty subtle, if you recall it correctly. That's why he downplayed it, yeah, okay, understood. But they never had him using cocaine. The point is, Greg, you're actively not promoting your book. You're being against your customers. No.

Oh, he is promoting it. Every time I see him, he's got the book right in front of him. That's more than I can say. Thank you. I'm promoting it right now. Exactly. It's a life-size book. It's not a giant placard like that. It's also flashy. When I read a book all up in here, I don't need to be showing people. Is that right? By the way, when you read a movie script, you haven't seen that movie. I've seen it in my head. Wow. I've read plenty of scripts. That's a great analogy, Greg. I got to go with Greg on that one. Thank you, Ron. There's just something to it, Greg,

where you touch the pages, you feel the ink on your fingers. Tactile. Oh, tactile. Tactile sensation. That's right. The book even has a smell. It has a smell. Do I smell glossy?

Take a whiff. Take a whiff of that. It's a smell. Do I smell Kwanzee? Take a whiff. I'll take a whiff of that. Mm, it's like perfume. Look at this beautiful lion. Look at this beautiful lion. I'm a bit disturbed that at this stage in our career, the Ron McGill segment has become, I wrote a Bic selling Stu Gatz's book and it's become, it rubs me the right way, baby.

As we just completely sell out asking the listeners to read. I mean, when I say pick up a book, I mean it literally. Don't pick up an earbud. Well, Greg, if your book was an audio book, would you be all in favor of people listening to your book? It would be wonderful, but I would still prefer they actually read the book itself.

But you're understanding that more people would buy it if you and Ron were doing the reading, correct? Yeah, that's a problem. But are you not understanding the evolution of the medium that would make reading a different thing for a different generation? I have spoken to the Miami Herald about that. You can click on a certain thing on my column

and have somebody dictate my column to you. but it's a it's like an electronic It's probably AI. It's an electronic voice. It's not me I have volunteered to put my columns in my own voice and They never followed up on them. Okay, but newspapers aren't exactly thriving an audio Nice things they were and that would be it. That's an idea game but it's it's a way to increase traffic and then it's called the podcast yeah i agree with great game going on says one public or a bit one for a while now he's doing one of those

now but every story that herald it goes if you don't have time to read click here to listen and it sounds like a robot takes away totally the effect of the of the article hundred percent that's it and and i agree it's a small example but it's a way to maybe get a few extra real newspapers have failed to evolve right that is correct it's one of the reasons that they're failing and they were taken out so easily that's one of the things that's appalling about everything that has happened to the American information system

Books are not thriving either But one way to get them to thrive is to meet with 50 people at a book club and thank God Ron's doing it. Yep To promote the idea that this should be read in whatever way you choose to Consume the information right? I can't believe that you're shaving me to consume the information. Right. I can't believe that you're shaming me. I'm a target demo right here and you're just telling me I'm not good enough to consume your book. Look I'm happy. I help your bottom line. I'm happy that you're consuming books. What I'm saying is I think you're cheating yourself out of the experience. Never had Lasik surgery. You don't know what reading does to my eyes.

He has a preference. That's all he's saying. This is a conscious decision that I'm making. He would like you to read the book, not listen to it. That's fine. But he's okay with you listening to it. No, he doesn't seem okay with it. Well, I think he's okay when he gets money. He's very highfalutin. You're ready to make the book. No, he's saying he's fine with you assuming it.

You're just not reading it is what he's saying. Yeah, tactile. Like if you listen to a book, just don't say, yeah, I read that book. No, I read it. It didn't. I can, and I will. Okay. You can't smell an audio book. Thank you. I wrote a book. just don't say, yeah, I read that book. No, I read it. You didn't. I can, and I will.

You can't smell an audiobook. Thank you. I wrote a book. Thank you, Billy. It's going to make me laugh every time. I wrote a book. It's the perfect way to promote it. We have to create a commercial around this.

This is what has to stop the advertising train of Stu Gantz right here. I wrote a book. Just build it all around that. to stop the advertising train of Stu Gantz right here. Just build it all around that. There's nothing in there. I wrote a bet. He's just taking money from the audience. Hypothetically, if I were swallowed by a large anaconda, and I understand that it breaks the bones and whatnot, but if you've seen the late 90s film Anaconda, John Voight gets

regurgitated and even winks at Jennifer Lopez. Is that humanly possible to remain consciousness after partially going through the digestive tract of an Anaconda? It is possible, not probable, assuming that the head is still out and you're able to breathe. You can certainly get some very bad enzyme burns into the legs and such, but yeah, as long as you're able to breathe, which I don't think is gonna be the case because an alicon is not gonna start swallowing you

until you stop breathing, until it's choked the life out of you. They don't crush your bones or anything. They just, you know, they constrict around the vascular system and they don't allow you to breathe. So it's not gonna start swallowing you until you're dead. The Key West crocodile, saltwater crocodile featured in Roadhouse killing a man. Mike Ryan told me I was a fool for thinking that that was a ridiculous scenario.

Am I a fool for thinking that a ridiculous scenario? I didn't see the scene, but there's nothing being foolish about the ability of a large crocodile to kill a human. It's been done, you know, unfortunately many, many times. It's not something that people need to panic about. Every time you see a crocodile, the crocodile's out to kill me. That's not the case.

But the crocodile certainly has the capability to do so. You should be weary though, in any marina that has saltwater crocs, because oftentimes saltwater crocs are hanging out in that marina because people are throwing fish into the water after they take back their hulls for the day. So if anything goes in the water, especially a henchman, that saltwater

croc is going to pounce. Well, yeah, and you don't have to say saltwater croc. Crocodiles here in Florida are not true ... They're crocodiles that can be found in saltwater, but the true saltwater crocodile is only found in Australia. That is a man killer. They can get to be over 18 feet. That's a very different crocodile than the one we have here even though the crocodile we have here the american crocodile can be found in saltwater let me show you something here video of a zebra tell me what we're watching here ron zebras uh... what are they doing

uh... they're standing in the middle of the street this is probably in a place uh... maybe south africa or such watch that's on the other hand that's watching or spend washington state all that they got out of the got out of a I don't know maybe South Africa or such. Washington. North Bend. That's Washington. North Bend, Washington state. Oh, then they got out of a- You don't think they're indigenous? No, they're not indigenous. So they're not invasive. I said what I said first because I have seen this

in Africa where zebras will cross roads in different areas. They have, you know, they transition to different areas and sometimes it's to hab, you know, habitated places, but these are obviously zebras that were somebody's little herd that they had in one of their sanctuaries or one of their little, you know, wildly exotic animal resorts.

What is the danger of something like that to either the zebras or us? The danger is to the zebra that's gonna get hit by somebody. Zebra is gonna run away from you. If you try to corner one, it can kick you, they can bite you, they can be really but they're not going to come after you for no reason

unless it's uh... you know uh... a mayor protecting her full uh... zebras and that's you know it's like coming across horses they're gonna run away if you give them a way out if you don't give them away out in court of them they could be very very dangerous reprised seems like there's more and more scenes like that where you see animals on streets and was a good lose from somewhere i'm curious and in the history of zoom i a m a through uh... what have been examples of an animal getting loose

and all of a sudden wandering among people in the zoo and has that ever been a perilous situation we we've never had animal kind of wandering amongst the people in the zoo we have had some host upoc, antelope deer, that have jumped out of an exhibit that something startled them, whether it be a loud clap, a thunder, or something like that.

And as soon as they jumped out of the exhibit, they realized, oh my gosh, I'm in a place that I'm not familiar with, they jump right back in. So that's something that has happened, but it's never presented a danger to the public. Ron, thank you, sir. If anyone wants to support the things that ron is doing

it's money that goes straight to conservation and of course is catalax and is uh... upgraded wardrobe but he's the one handling everything there's no bureaucracy and you'll just help people like if you want to care about jaguars and you could do so by buying the Pride of a Lion by Greg Cody and Ron McGill. Thank you Ron. Thanks guys have a good one take care. Hey it's Mike as you know sports are a bit crazy right now. Kind of feels like everything is happening all at once and you have to make some decisions to prioritize if you want to support your team or go out and see some of these games. Well I've got a

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But my question to Ron is this. Stugats! That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at you. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! ["The Stugats Show Theme"] Greg, we cut you off.

You had some Miami Heat thoughts for us, and I want to get back to this, but I just, before I do so It's being reported now that Joel Embiid has missed shoot-around this morning with a migraine His status for tonight's game remains questionable My instinct on Joel Embiid is to feel bad for him I can also go the other route and say you know what he's under it doesn't really need to go to shoot around this morning also go the other route and say you know what he's under it doesn't really need to go to shoot around this morning stay at the hotel don't even go out in the

street it's okay Joel everything's hurting right now just go home and be at the game just be there for tip-off I just yes well I don't know that I would say migraine if it is indeed a migraine I would feel very bad that the pressure that this person is under is making his face fall apart like he's already played a playoffs wearing a mask he's under a great deal of dress i know these guys are muscles on top of muscles and we expect them to endure everything but he's a human being and he's been saying with jokic for two years on the MVP added here it is here's it like his career has a chance to blossom or he will be left behind

because anthony edwards is here now and and Jason Tatum is here now and the league is going to be fought over the next few years and this is what Philadelphia has wrought for 15 years of losing and embarrassment. What I'll have to do which I think he's trying to avoid is just join other superstars and try to create a super team elsewhere or in Philadelphia that's what he's trying to not do. I would not blame him or say it's cowardice if he does so this is the way these people are under we're making fun of kevin drance to got what just happened in phoenix is pretty damn interesting man they mortgaged everything yet for right now and they got caught between the

league is being taken over by young people and this is the year that the red and staff and lebron we can also you're not close it's not it's a new time like maybe you can hang on somewhere but not the way you built not where you live now the league's been taken from you it's it a guy in denver took it and he's got a whole bunch of people coming for him now who were uh... okc's to that's that starting lineup in okc ninety nine point five percent of its points are being scored by people under twenty five years old where that's never

happened this young team they shake your cell exam people about to learn all these at the edwards adjacent and they're coming for the ogre like they want they want yolk itch and everybody wants you'll get but you're about to see where history gets made stories get told and everyone is impressed by anthony edwards and and and god almighty what a cool moment for anthony edwards to have his favorite

players say that anthony edwards is his favorite player that's all what a torch for kevin durant to give to anthony edwards that he is considered kevin durant's favorite player and kevin durant loses them in minutes we get out of here you the first team out and he says your league kid you're my favorite player i can't believe we're living in a world where i'm excited for nuggets and t wolves i mean what a great series that is a great series amazing annual here now all of this that falls on indeed carl anthony towns gonna get it for the first time

and davis has lived under for a while unpleasant. Like, I know we think these guys are giants, but it sucks, man. Thursday night, Charles Barkley, you're Anthony Davis. You're 30 and 15. He's saying, more street clothes. More. That's who you are. Yeah, I know you're great. More. We're Hall of Famers. Me and Shaq, are you going to be one? Like, one of the things I find fascinating about what just happened last night, I can't talk. I can't talk. Yeah. Everyone gets in. Yeah, no, but definitively. Yeah, for sure. Emphatically is. Yes. One of the things that I just love about the storytelling of this time of year is that the demands on these people feel superhuman. I just told you I'd be scared to be Joellen Beed tonight.

Man, New York's obnoxious, do gods. New York is great. New York, you want this fandom. It is so loud. It is. May I ask you, what is it specifically about Joellen Beed? Because you feel more sorry for him than anyone else in the national media landscape.

And he's not alone, by the way. I understand, like he's got uh... your slight facial paralysis that in some cases often uh... stresses the cause of it sometimes it's other things but you can play out there he's shown you that he can play it i don't know why you're you're feeling so bad for joelle and beat he's been

pretty he's had a pretty good over there they've brought in superstar teammates form he's got a deliver i he was he was delivering to near historic proportions before he got hurt this year they they're supposed to an MVP waiting to happen again and he's putting up 50 burgers and he like I understand he's not the the two-way force that used to be but he's going up against like Jalen Brunson. Okay but so this is my point and this is where I would tell you the stories to me are the most interesting because I believe LeBron James getting knocked out of the playoffs last night dominating all of the discourse for 20

years and making the league so much stronger than it was based on the strength of I'll be the next Jordan. The amount of pressure that we put on this human being for 20 years makes it so we're still arguing is he the greatest is he the greatest one what he's done for twenty years should be celebrated a part like wow amazing huge pressure all the time and now it goes out the door and gets fought over the remains of it what colby left what michael everyone's chasing that ghost that's correct but in the heat of how cruel

lebron james is age was he's the he's not the first social media athlete but what this crew remembers when lebron james joined twitter and uh... this crew here remembers the voice that that carried as he took over the sport that guy conquered all and i believe we were cruel to him on the ascent and felt entitled to it be better than jordan be better than Jordan. It's a big ask for the Embiids of the world. Some men will live up to it. Some will lose to Antetokounmpo or Jokic.

Well, if you're just comparison shopping on pressure and stress on the body, Embiid, again, charmed existence compared to what we saw with LeBron. LeBron found a way. Now I know it is unfair to assume that Joel Embiid can be that kind of player. We're talking about top two all time with LeBron James. But he is an MVP. He is one of the greats and he has never gotten out of the second round.

Do it. You're going up against a team that is missing a max contract. This is not an overwhelming Knicks team. No, it's not. You're going up against a team that is missing a max contract. This is not an overwhelming Knicks team. No it's not. You're going up against Jalen Brunson. I mean, Dan, you're going up against Jalen Brunson. He's supposed to be a better superstar

than Jalen Brunson. And to Mike's point, it's a great one. LeBron really went through it. Embiid hasn't been through anything yet. LeBron went through it for decades. And agreed, Stu Gatz, by comparison nothing, but I will just place in front of you

the process short-circuited mentally not one but two first-round picks men simmons and markel faults fell apart mentally i'm just telling you the pressure cooker can eat up human beings and you can say do more do more do more and his body can hurt he can give you fifty and he doesn't get the rebounds in the fourth i understand i'm simply explaining to you And his body can hurt and he can give you 50 and he doesn't get the rebounds in the fourth. I understand. I'm simply explaining to you, LeBron James conquered that pressure cooker and you and

Skip Bayless were chasing him the whole time. You're not as great as you think you are. You're not as great as you think you are. That falls on Joel Embiid tonight. And I'm just telling you, the guy that overcomes it, I applaud it, bravery. LeBron took out the Pissons. Look at the team that he had. He conquered it with like Drew Gooden

You've had Hardin you've had Simmons when everyone rated him highly you had Jimmy Butler They gave Tobias Harris a big contract you have Darrell Morey who is reputed to be one of the best GMs there You've had good coaches come in and out of there You have a former champion head coach right now like he's got it at a certain point You got to live up or this is what happens on the other side of that point i i root for the best stories the best story tonight is joellen b not healthy now he's got bells palsy walking into the viciousness that can be msg it's a great showing up that crap to great story the whole thing

that this is what i love this is what i love about playoff basketball is going to be there well where is taylor Where is he right now? No, he's very close. He's gonna meet up with us soon. Fans have been buying him snacks all along the Eastern Seaboard and running it out to trains. Taylor is taking a 28-hour train that will drop him off stinky, 28 hours stinky at MSG. That's what it means walking into New York's ass crack today. It's been on a train for 28 hours stinky at MSG. That's what im beads walking into New York's ass crack

today. It's been on the train for 28 hours. Greatest. Duo's trading cards have arrived at Tim's with two hockey icons on every card. Like Matthew and Brady Kachuk rivals teammates, family and more connected like never before. Head to Tim's and get yours today at participating restaurants in Canada Don LeBattard, let's go to 80 Wow, I think Billy typed an eight instead of a B fine the clearest day Stugats It's Chris corner on the lines easy this is the done libertar show with a Stugats.

I wrote a book. It really is amazing advertising. You can't dispute that. It's amazing advertising. We have to figure out a way to continue to trump up how giant a book this is going to be because to God's really does Have all these people working for him And this is a big day the day that we're announcing his book cover even though we did it five or six days ago Because the book is going to come out. It's it is being published by Random House It is to God's book.com today. You get an autographed copy about that about that? And an insert, a special insert, a book snake.

The random house or just like a random house? I made that joke in the foreword. I was hoping to say that you just took it from me. It's okay, it's all right. No more Stugats book jokes, I need them. Well it looks like it's Porchlight that is publishing your book. Oh.

Oh. If you order on Porchlight between now and Thursday, you get an autographed copy. Yes. And an insert, special insert, a book snake. Who's the publisher? Do you know? Random House. Are you sure?

I'm positive. There's a Random House logo on there. I think that's their logo. None of us are sure. It's a bit of a... Now, here's a question a lot of people... Nervous for a second. ...a question a lot of people are asking, Stuugatz, is what if they pre-ordered the first

time you asked them to pre-order? Now they're not getting an autographed book or they're not getting a bookmark? Because people started pre-ordering in February when you asked them to. Talk to Random House. Let them know they sent them that way. Take care of everyone, don't worry about it. It would seem as though the longer you wait, the more desperate Stugots will get

and the more you will get. I will sign any book that is put in front of me, okay? I don't care where you're from, when you bought it, I will sign your book. Does it have to be your book or? I don't know. Mr. Godz, how do you roll this out in a way that makes the people who want it most

get the least for their dollar? I'm just following Random House's lead here. I mean, they're telling me what to do and when to do it. So here we are. Now they can't get a book snake. Oh, well, I'll get them one. Don't worry about it. Are you saying the people who ordered before today?

You said pre-order before, you get this. Now you say pre-order now, you get more. I will bring this up to Random House on my next call. Okay? And it appears to be on sale today too. You're actively stealing from the customers. How about that? You're making them buy, like the people who wanted

the last ones are gonna have to buy again. They're gonna have peace. Feel free to buy another. They're gonna pay. $7 off today. Yeah, buy a dozen. Back now. Back now.

It is a good time to have your own brand as Stu Gotts has learned. Jason Kelsey parlayed his thing into an ESPN job. He could have had any job and it appears that is that does this mean that RG3 is out at ESPN? Because I've read reports but they're going to have to shake things up in order to make room for Kelsey and again Stugats I will tell you this is a fascinating thing to watch in the media age. When the athletes come for all of the great jobs and have their own brands,

Jason Kelsey has turned himself into what's going to be the most powerful offensive lineman voice there's been since John Madden, like since whatever it is. Since Art Donovan. Like you don't get to be famous is one of these offensive lineman you art donovan did talk shows dan deardorff like you don't get to be famous unless you get a microphone and get more famous late in life and this is what's going to happen for jason kilsey kelsey being taylor swift adjacent

great job for him great job for espn he's going to be an obvious star a beer belly every man on your foot is already a solid that not i'm saying they heat people a whole bunch of people who aren't necessarily listening to travis kelsey and jason kelsey right as to guys football is such a giant no matter how big your podcast is you sit on television and there are millions more who know your face and

voice away they never did when you were a player, not even Jason Kelsey, not even in Philadelphia, not even in Philadelphia where he is an icon. The football mask has always hidden these guys under stardom, offensive linemen don't get this. And he could have had any job that he wanted in the media. Like he could have literally made whatever move

he wanted to in football. And I I would love if Amazon's gonna make another documentary on them I would love to see the business of what it's been to be the Kelseys the last few years because everything they've done to become non quarterback voices for this sport so that's one of the fascinating things about all of the generational change around here is that football has survived going from the guys you love drop list burger and ro mo and payton manning and tom brady there the lead there the ones you know given broadcasting jobs keep them in the media build the bridge to the future and celebrate kaleb williams

when he gets here because the whole league is changing in slum or jackson and we want to keep this thing basketball got a different problem. Basketball's got foreigners at the top of the sport. A lot of foreigners at the very top of the sport. And a guy who can't jump. He's a foreigner. Yeah.

I wouldn't say foreigners being successful is a problem. I would say it is because you want American stardom for American fans in basketball so that you can make the league change from the stars that were palatable before too hey if you don't like lamar jackson over here you sure that anthony edwards is ready to be face of the league in twenty two could there's some job or and stuff there not not the trouble stuff but the perception stuff doesn't allow a guy to be a face of the league because you want him to be step

courier jason tatum or someone that has a cure rating that's palatable to customer generic bland customer america who's not going to be offended by anything ever the offensive line into your point cbs got rid of boomer and sims yesterday replaced them with a younger boomer in that right would love to know the offers that jason kelsey uh... got before choosing that one and i this is another thing i'd love to know if If McAfee says, and Peyton Manning say, hey, come over here, they're letting us run ESPN. Come over here, come over here, they're letting us.

ESPN is going now into the star making business. We're gonna go $17 million personalities. We're gonna help Shannon Sharp build his brand over here. It's not really star making, it's like established stars. Come here now. They used to be a star making, it's like, established stars, come here now. They used to be a star making vehicle where people would ascend there, and there's still like a couple outliers,

but now it's just like, we have a talent budget, they're going to the top line. Come over here, use us, give you a card of us. I would love to know the bidding war that ESPN just won on Jason Kelsey. But do you guys think that Jason and Travis Kelsey need anyone? Do they need Omaha?

Because they stand on their own, right? Travis is as big a star as anyone right now. Here's the thing though, Stigatz, and this is the McAfee trade, man. He left FanDuel for less money, but this. And it was deals with Eiger. Like it's not even Pitaro. Hey, Disney's president, you need real help in streaming what are you going to do worldwide leader

oh we're going to buy some star here we go we've got to get we've got to make football bigger bigger bigger where we're fighting streaming wars now and we're playing with i'd be athletes have gotten the i'd go to stugats and and disney's in a crucial business time and all of this is fascinating because it's a new game

and jason kelsey gets to play at the very top of it he walks in through the front door and gets one of the best jobs and it would have been the job of his choosing because amazon would have wanted him everybody wants football and uh... i know people get tired, our audience hates how interested I am in the media stuff

but if these guys are gonna compete in business the way they did in sports, I wanna watch that too. It might end us. That's boring just watching people compete in business. I'd rather them hit each other. Yeah, that's how we prefer them. Yeah, I mean imagine them in suits just in a business room and you can watch them go back and back in negotiation

and just do that game where you write things on a piece of paper and slide it back and forth. A boring thing to watch, I would think. Are you not interested in the mechanics of what it is that the Kelseys are doing? I am a little fatigued that everybody just has to have a brand now. Why?

That's why I just, the more I watch this Yoke Hitch guy, the more I fuck with him. Hey, he's just gonna go out there, roll the ball out. I don't care about a brand. I don't need a podcast. I just wanna race my horses, do my damn thing. I don't even like this sport. Brand, get me the hell out of here.

It's my brand. It's exhausting. High schoolers coming to like college universities and talk about their brand. But isn't this what NIL is going to do? I mean, this isn't going to get any better. It's really, it's not even NIL, people want to blame that. It's social media. You have to have a brand. If you're an athlete, you have to have, no man, some, just get six rebounds a game, dude.

Yeah. Like you're a pulling guard. What are you talking, brand? Okay, I'll help you with your brand. That's what we can do for you. Didn't Wimby Yamma just come up with a logo? Yeah. No, that's Nike. Wimby. What was that name?

Yeah, Nike. Say, you want to try? Wimby and Yamma? Yeah, he's right. What did I say? Wimby and Yamma. Wimby. First time you kind of butchered it. It's okay.

Wimby. Well, can you just play for me, please, the music that just signals a little too late that people don't want to hear me talk. Do you get annoyed every time Dan Levitard pontificates about the sports media industry? Well too bad motherf*****. He knows he don't give a damn about what he's gonna say. It's time for sports media talk today. I want to listen to some D'Angelo Russell sound. D'Angelo Russell betrayed us.

Another brand. Another brand. Notice a brand Kmart. What happened there? Why are we rushing to be brands? Toys R Us. Specifically in my line of work, much of and Beyond. Much of my day is just left sifting through like podcast pitches and it's just like, I don't know the hard to say,

like you're not a brand, you're a pivot midfielder for the New England revolution. Like you're not a brand. I could see where you would get tired of all of this, but I would assume that all of the things in athletic business are changing because every athlete. Subscribe to my Instagram package and and X I guess is what they're calling it it's just $2.99 Wow and money goes directly in the pockets of women's

basketball players here so almost like your brand to their brands I mean if I have to leverage my brand to help their brands, let's do it. DeAngelo Russell, Stugatz, last night he's been a very frustrating player for the Lakers. The other night we lost a Thursday Thunder because we had DeAngelo Russell getting 17 points or over and he scored zero that night. And DeAngelo Russell was asked here because he's going to leverage his situation, his brand, which is returning to Lakers, right? This brand left and now returns to the Lakers and they cannot count on him at the end of LeBron James' career. But this is what he had to say in assessing his season because these couple of sentences together, the one I read them, I laughed out

loud. Just looking back on the totality of everything how do you view this season and what you feel like you prove or hell of a year by the angel the police and i and those two said that i love that back up hell of a year by the angel of third person on your own name humbly saying that

i love it. Come on. That's great. You can't. You can't. You can. Oh look, Taylor. That is Taylor. We've got to go. Taylor has now arrived finally in New York at Madison Square Garden after 28 hours. We go to Taylor. Look how happy he is. We go to Taylor next.