The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Shams Called Out Over Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Jimmy Butler's agent, Bernand Lee, called out Shams Charania after reports that the Miami Heat are listening to offers for their superstar forward and the Phoenix Suns may be interested. What is going... on with this situation that led to this staunch denial from Lee? What do the Heat have to hide here that they haven't come out with a denial? Is Micky Arison's retweet an endorsement? Out of that conversation, we transition seamlessly into Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs, the future of the James Bond series and Nosfeartu talk. Then, Tony brings the goods with his Top 5 Movies He Will Always Stop On. Is The Hateful Eight better than Once Upon A Time In Hollywood? What is the best Quentin Tarantino movie? Is The Hateful Eight terrible? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:22 by that Joe Burroughs story yesterday, and just athlete burglaries in general because you know where they're going to be and their home or their families when they're playing might be unsecure. And so I hadn't thought about that in a long time since talking, as I mentioned yesterday, to Anton Jameson a long time ago about just going to extreme security measures with his home and driving around his neighborhood several times just make sure that somebody wasn't a trying grab his jewelry in the driveway with a gun
Starting point is 00:01:53 and i'd just hadn't given it very much thought so it comes up when joe burrows house is uh... there's an attempted robbery that has uh... as i was attempted has a robbery and has an SI swimsuit model at home who works for him and people are enjoying whatever that is. But I was not expecting this yesterday from Tua when just out of nowhere, he's like, come into my house. See how that goes for you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I have personal security just because my house had gotten broken into, not necessarily my house, but one of my cars. And so it's a little too close for my comfort with my family being in the house. So we got personal security to take care of all of that. When we're on the road, we got someone with my wife, got someone also at the house surveying the house.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So just to let that be known, they are armed. So I hope if you decide to go to my house, you think twice. Was that David during that clip saying, I do that too? It's that I was robbed too. And I had personal security as well because you have the view that it will help you. And then you realize if someone wants you, they want you.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And burglars really have nowhere to go but athletes because with remote working post-COVID, people are home all the time now. So the- Don't sound too excited about it. Well, no, it's a nightmare if you're a burglar. You have to go to a place where people are out. They're not looking to find the armed guard.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm picturing a burglar doing a back in my day. Back in my day. Empty home can go anywhere. Nine to five. You were good. COVID, man,. Empty home could go anywhere. Nine to five. You were good. COVID, man, it crushed me. Ring cams. I never got.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Now everyone's got an OnlyFans and they work their own hours. I never got it confirmed, but I was told at one point, and it made sense once you're talking about these kinds of economies, that LeBron's home in South Florida, because it was on water, had frogmen,
Starting point is 00:03:46 like had people to make sure that you weren't coming the back way either, like you weren't coming from, you weren't coming by sea either. I just didn't think, I didn't know to think that Tua would have to need security around his home to make sure that somebody, I wouldn't have considered it, honestly. There's a ton of neighborhoods in South Florida
Starting point is 00:04:04 that the cars get broken into. You're told, even when you live behind a gate, and back when I was down here, they would say, lock your cars in the driveway of a nice area in plantation. Lock your cars. Doesn't everyone lock their cars always? That's the whole point, right?
Starting point is 00:04:19 I always would. Not in action movies. The keys are always up on that visor, and I don't understand it. Like, where is this? I mean, What kind of life of security must you live? Well, wait a second. Didn't you have your key in your car for like three years? That was a mistake. I had no idea it was there. What?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, I had a spare key that was like in the... Someone could have just like walked up to my car and just driven it away. So you were saying what kind of movies are this and it's your life? Yeah. It could have just happened. It wasn't in the visor. It was in the glove compartment though. So you were saying what kind of movies are this and it's your life. Yeah, it could have just Was in the crack in between the sea you can't get to I don't recall it might have been in the crack Yeah, once it's in the crack. You don't go back. You can't find it. Yep, and my hands are too small I could stuff just gets you can fit a lot and I can get some stuff out of the crack
Starting point is 00:05:03 Can you guys tell me what's real, what's not real when it comes to Jimmy Butler, these reports, Bernard Lee entering the fray, the agents, it should be known, throughout sports, are real and legitimate power brokers. They have relationships with the general managers. The best power structures in the NBA know to have relationships with the business of agents so that they can have good relationships with Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 00:05:31 The reports that have been leaked now, Shams is saying, and Shams is credible, that Jimmy Butler would also consider Phoenix as a landing spot even though that would be hard for a number of different apron and financial concerns to go along with Golden State and Dallas and Houston. The part that surprised me and I wasn't sure what the motive was Bernard Lee was his agent said all right listen I gave he's talking to Shams here I gave you a pass yesterday because I was busy but if you don't stop putting my name on your complete and utter made up bullshit because you know you normally aren't worth my time to acknowledge. I've not seen an agent go after one of the information
Starting point is 00:06:15 guys that way. I will tell you that Shams and I don't look everyone needs agents as sources but Woj had agents and management. Shams is players. Shams is also agents, but Shams is a lot younger. I haven't seen, Bernard Lee didn't and wouldn't do that to Woj, so what's happening there? I have no idea what's happening there. He comes out firing. He clearly has some long standing issue with Shams whenever he reports on on Jimmy Butler I guess specifically this was unexpected and you don't really see anybody going at Shams Specifically like this is this a different tweet if he takes out alright listen like if this just starts
Starting point is 00:06:57 I gave you a pass like he well no I love I love that first sentence all right made up bullshit I love that first sentence. All right. Made up bullshit. Listen. And then read. All right, read. People went after, people went after woge a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:07 LeBron's camp would go after woge through their different avenues. I don't think I've ever really seen anything like this as it pertains to, to Shams who once reported before anyone that Donald Trump got COVID. What Chris Cody is saying there is important. And I think it needs to be inspected okay because chris cody has stopped correctly
Starting point is 00:07:29 on bernard lee jumping into the fray with alright listen can read no what he's got out he's got a finger up that's right where you're going to read now but let's pretend it's listen cuz i've gotten your attention the fact that you think that has more threatening behind it than complete and utter made-up bullshit Directed at a credible journalist complete and utter made-up bullshit is the part that got my attention Because woe and shams don't often get it wrong Agents lie all the time. Why is he doing this unless shams has it wrong? So but how does this end?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Because there needs to be a victor here. If this ends with Jimmy Butler getting traded to one of the teams that Shams outlined before, then that's a whole lot of pomp and circumstance for you to end up being wrong in the end. This is what I'm asking. Can he be right now and then wrong in the end? What I'm asking you guys is this,
Starting point is 00:08:22 because we have seen how valuable information is in the information business Shams and Woj and Schefter like there are five or seven of these people who you just trust that their information is correct you just trust that it is even in the face of someone who's got credibility saying complete and utter made-up bullshit and so I'm asking you guys where do you side on this because most often or to every degree that I can ever remember when Shams reports it it's correct don't they have a beef going back to like 2021 when Jimmy's agent called him like an
Starting point is 00:08:59 ambulance chaser like a clickbait chaser or something like that like they have this is a long standing feud. That's where the all right listen comes from. The baggage. Am I remembering this right? And with an injury where he denied that there was a sprain and then the heat announced by the way, there's a sprain. It turns out that the agent is highly incentivized to lie.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And you're gonna think that's a take as an executive, but for Shams when his currency, and he's new at this now, and the Pope position, he's brand new. No, but what he's not new at is this dude gets it right. Like the reason he's got the name that he does, it's not just because he gets it first, plenty, and he does, it's because he always gets it right.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's not some of the times, it's not even most of the time. It's like no real stains on getting it wrong. The value of his information is that you know that it's true. And everything's going through Shams right now, right? Because Woj is not in the game anymore. So he's getting a ton of this information. He probably got a lot of sources that work, people that were going for Woj. My question is why don't the Heat just be like, nope, not true, shut it down it down well Mickey Harrison retweeted Bernard Lee's tweet so maybe that's some sort of cosine But this is the first time an agent's ever lied no is this posturing is this 4d chess where no this is bullshit
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's not part of this the Sun's trying to drive the price up I will tell you this the heat as a matter of policy just simply don't comment on this stuff But I will tell you this isn't as a matter of policy just simply don't comment on this stuff but i will tell you this is even pat riley's viewpoint that mickey arrison i don't think there's much of anything in the world he has less use for them the reporting around his sport and uh... he doesn't value what the information guys do as truth because the miami heat doesn't talk to anybody and so any perspective that's coming out on the Miami Heat is coming from somebody who's outside of the organization. This particular thing though, the Miami Heat
Starting point is 00:10:57 are in a critical time and we have watched a history-making era of basketball where Pat Riley is trying to get one last time at the throne and he's so very close and it's bam at the rim against Tatum and now the Celtics have wildly outgrown the Miami Heat and the last vestiges of what the Heat had challenging the Celtics are this old contract that we know is going to age poorly, you've got to get something for him before he opts out and you go into next postseason without him. But you're not likely to get something better
Starting point is 00:11:34 than Jimmy Butler that then makes you better than Boston unless you involve a third team. What are you shaking your head about? If he opts out, then it didn't age poorly. It means that he's still, he's worth even more than what he did last. But what we also to ignore what Jimmy did in the off season, hey, those purple and gold uniforms look good.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Like we're just gonna pretend everything is just kumbaya over here in Miami. This is part of the Jimmy Butler playbook. And this is how he kind of operates, especially when there are seeds or beyond seeds of him outgrowing a place, which has happened several times. But I pair this with the reports out of Golden State where a hungry, hungry champion with a star on his last legs insists on surrounding him with a player who would look like Jimmy
Starting point is 00:12:19 Butler if you're trying to go all win now on let's capitalize what we just came back from on the olympics and now the reports are out there well golden state would like lebron and jimmy butler to join step because steph deserves to have the surroundings what he's built in golden state he deserves for golden state to go all in with all of their passion instead of steve kirk getting kicked out of games management is doing everything they can to get two players like Steph Curry to get him to age with grace.
Starting point is 00:12:48 A lot of people want a lot of things though. They don't always get what they want, especially when the Miami Heat want a superstar to demand a trade. Look, I want Aaron Taylor Johnson's abs. I'm craving them. I don't even know who that is. Oh, is he from the Craven movie?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah. The new Bond. I found out. I think so. Is he gonna be the new Bond? The rumors is the I found out. Is he gonna be the New Bond? The rumors is the New Bond, and you may have seen the savages with Blake Lively. That's him too. I haven't.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And you know what else he's in? Nosferatu. Oh, that's what I know him from. Did you see it? Was it good? I'm gonna see it Christmas day and night. Ooh. I want to talk about Nosferatu in a second,
Starting point is 00:13:22 but getting back to, what are you doing? I'm coming out of a casket, well, sarcophagus. Don't call it a casket because in Nosferatu we don't call it a casket. What are the Satan names? The undertaker. The Beelzebub, Nosferatu, like what? No, no, Nosferatu is not a Satan name.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's the name for the undead, the vampire. But it's a form of great evil. Okay, I thought it was Satan related, I'm sorry. Nosferatu is just the greatest of the vampires. I've seen him wandering around the smoke on a boat. Hmm? On the trailer for Nosferatu. You've seen Nosferatu because no one's really seen him.
Starting point is 00:13:53 All you get is just the eyes. David, enough. This is, you know who directed this film? Robert Ager, so the guy that did The Lighthouse. This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vich, he did The Northman, The Vich, and he did The Lighthouse, This is his fourth feature film. He did The Vich, he did The Northman, The Vich, and he did The Lighthouse, which is a Christmas movie. So this is the most marketing he's ever had behind it.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I'm literally wearing a collaboration for a cologne. I'm so hyped for this. Christmas Day night, the cinematographer is gonna be incredible. He texted me and said, or posted or something to all of this perfume or cologne, wondering like- Haunting. It's really something.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's haunting. Do you wanna smell it? It smells like Count Orlok's cave. I can't smell it. It smells okay. Thank you. It does smell like a cave. It does smell like a cave, but a nice cave.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I could see what they were going for. Inviting, an inviting cave. So basically this is just a remake of the 1922 silent film, the seminal German silent film, that was basically Bram Stoker's Dracula, but without using the names. So it's a darker twist on this because the count is actually undead even though it's Dracula doesn't go by Dracula it goes by Orlok and it's supposed to be incredible and this is a seminal movie event comes out
Starting point is 00:14:57 day at Christmas Day night and all the little goth kids and all the little emos and all the little vampy kids are gonna be super excited because Eggers always delivers. All four of his films over 90% on the Rotten Tomatoes meter including this one. So are you team Edward or team Jacob? Which one's Pattinson? Edward. Oh my lord. That's the seminal movie not this Nostradamus thing. What? Neither of you guys know what it is so you're not're not allowed to talk about you haven't seen the 1922 silent film You're a cinephile that should be like required viewing for anybody didn't warner hers I make a nose for a two in the 70s
Starting point is 00:15:33 I did and I what he did and I watched it last week and This one they don't call him knows for a two or count Orlok He's just Dracula, but he looks Nosferatu like 1922. Now everybody's got their original names. Lots of rats in that film. I thought I saw a trailer for Nosferatu that was him floating over a ship in the smoke, that that's the trailer of what it is that you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Was that the last voyage of the Demeter? That one stunk. Regardless. In all the Dracula war. Two things I wanted to talk about off of what you were saying. First of all, Lamar Jackson was trending yesterday, correct? Because he says he prefers a female scent getting back to what you guys were talking about on the cologne. But I also wanted to talk about what David said about the next bond and what's going to happen with the next Bond. Daniel Craig was asked what he thought should happen with the next Bond,
Starting point is 00:16:30 and his response surprised me. His response was just, I don't care. There have only been a handful of Bonds. It's a treasured position. It is one of the great movie franchises of all time. He doesn't own any part of it. Can we spoil, it's been years now, we can spoil what happened to The Last Bond, right?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Of course. Yeah. Alright, spoiler alert for people that haven't watched The Last Bond. James Bond is dead. What? He died. 007 that is.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah. He comes back. 007 still around, see that's right, that's also right. Hey, you're 007. No, that's a title, that's a title. Yeah, no, James Bond, Bond, James Bond, dead. I don't really know how they come back from this one. By hiring Aaron Taylor Johnson and his abs.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Dude, those abs are sick. I remember in the Dracula book, he's on a ship, Dan. Doesn't he take a ship to England? Yeah, the Demeter, or is it Demeter? Either way, yeah, there was a whole bad movie made on just that ship voyage, which is super frustrating because I'm like, guys, look for it during the day. All these bad things are happening at night.
Starting point is 00:17:31 It's right, like it's a ship. You're not covering a lot of ground. Just look for it during the day. We all know where all this stuff is coming from. There's dirt everywhere coming from these caskets. Guys are missing. Just look for it during the day. Howdy, it's Mike, want to talk to you about Game Time. For my money the very best secondary ticket marketplace app there is on the market and trust me I've been around the block a few times when it comes to this and I always come
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Starting point is 00:21:32 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! This is a good segue because it's been two weeks in the making. I started a show and then I wandered away from it. I was talking to Tony at the beginning of the show about the top five movies that'll stop on every single time he's flipping through the channels. Look they're putting this beefcake up here. Take it out of preview and into the program. You know he did the reverse Belichick his partners
Starting point is 00:22:09 This dude is like having his moment right now the reverse Belichick So this is the new bond the bond the new bond has abs how many bonds have there been four or five ever? It's reckless journalism. It's he hasn't been named. I said he's rumored. That's not reckless. I don't think I get the button No, I think much more than four or five you got Connery more Daltry Dalton Daltry wasn't one of the who who so it's been six. It's been six bonds. There haven't been very many of them
Starting point is 00:22:43 So it's been six, it's been six bonds. There haven't been very many of them. And so. Why would he care? He's not getting paid, he doesn't own any part of the IP. There's seven total, 007. Oh, look at that. Is that why they killed him? We can't have an eighth.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So you know. There was one more 007, because for a moment, like 007 is assumed by another person in the last one. So there have been more 007s than James Bonds. How about this? I have noticed while watching everybody get in on this conversation, if I scan the room, even Roy has wanted to get in,
Starting point is 00:23:17 but there's been somebody who's been hiding in the shadows but in plain sight. It would appear based on the look in Chris Cody's eyes that he has not seen a single Bond movie. I've played the video game. That's about my extent. GoldenEye? He's never seen Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:23:31 He's never seen James Bond. What's wrong with this guy? You've never seen a single James Bond? I've seen Austin Powers. That's the closest I've gotten to James Bond. How do you get the jokes without? I've played GoldenEye. That's a great question, Mike.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You should watch James Bond to really unlock this movie, because I know you like it. I still thought it was funny. Isn't it a Spike TV? Wasn't that the channel that used to replay all the Bonds around Christmas time? This is the best time of year to watch all the Bond movies. There's usually TV marathons.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Which one do I start on? They're streaming now, of course. You can get them any time you want. You want to know my height? Yeah, but there's nothing like turning on cable over the Christmas vacation and just seeing seven Bonds in a row. You know my concept for where to take
Starting point is 00:24:08 the James Bond franchise since he's now dead? You go back in time, you take the source material, and you do period pieces from when those books were written, noir. Jimmy Bond. Let me get Broccoli on the phone and we'll get right on that. The story of little Jimmy Bond.
Starting point is 00:24:23 How many brands, movie brands, Fast and the Furious, whatever it is you wanna choose, would you stack up and say bigger than the Bond franchise? Just ever? Mission Impossible. Rocky, all of them? Godfather. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Who's been bigger at the box office because James Bond has more films But let's look it up the James Bond versus the MI for you have to adjust though for time wait a minute Wait a minute. I don't think we can trust David on this David just put up two godfathers not even the third one He just put up two godfathers again. Chises. So but against all the bonds There's no way the box office against all the Bond movies? I was just channeling Adnan. I understand Godfather is great, but I'm asking for franchise for all time. You can pick one and you've got to win this game.
Starting point is 00:25:14 You've got to be the biggest franchise in movie history. If I go all in with the Bond franchise, I'm feeling decent about my hand. I don't know. I'm asking the rest of you to give me some stuff you'd put against it, but I'm feeling decent about my hand. I don't know I'm asking the rest of you to give me some stuff you'd put against it But I'm guessing that if you've only had seven bonds ever and you've been able to keep a franchise alive since the 60s Mission Impossible took a long break between the 60s. All the bonds have been Relatively relevant through what is it six seven decades now? I think I would take Jurassic Park over it I would take potentially Star Wars for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Lord of the Rings has more meat on that bone. Harry Potter, I'd probably take it over James Bond. I watched Dune the other night. Not there yet, but they're starting to spin that baby off. I wasn't a big Dune guy. Cinematically. Do you like Timothée? I do. You know, I wanted to like Dune. But I just didn't. Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I think he cinematically, beautiful. Do you like Timothée Chalamet? You know, I wanted to like Dune, but I just didn't.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Didn't everybody love him on college game day? I feel like he smelled good there. Oh, yeah. I think he might actually know ball, or he really prepared for this role. He was probably the best guest picker in ages. He was phenomenal. I have a hot take about Timothée Chalamet on game day.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm a big Timoth Timothy Chalamet fan. Love his work with all of Greta Gerwig's films. There's a buck coming. He's a 28 year old man and people were losing their minds that he knew anything about football. I'm sorry. Since when do we just assume theater kids don't watch any sports?
Starting point is 00:26:40 He lives in New York. He probably gambles on the weekends on the Mac championship game like we all do. He invoked Maxion, which right then and there. And he was right, by the way. Ohio spanked Miami. I love that people would underestimate the theater kid and give him bonus points
Starting point is 00:26:57 because he knows a little about college football. Yeah, but was he running lines? I, yes. That's what people are accusing him because his stats were so detailed and it wasn like just things you'd come off the cuff. He was prepped. Who's kidding? Did you watch it? It looked like he was performing. It was performative almost. It can be performative. I'm more interested in what she's saying, which is the just general underestimation of a 28-year-old pretty boy because you think he can't know anything about college football
Starting point is 00:27:27 Exactly, that's it. That's usually not something that's afforded to a 28 year old man Especially appearing on cable team one of cable TV's most popular sports shows You would think right? Although people I guess people were assuming that he would just be all Broadway and couldn't know anything about Ohio beating Miami of why? Thank you Reese. I would like to make a pick. Yeah, yeah, real, real. You would make a great flamboyant, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Under. Let's create it. I think I'm gonna take the under. We did it. We had fun with it. It's like the birdcage. I think the window as closed. We should make a football musical.
Starting point is 00:27:59 We should do that. Who's done that? I want Chris Cody to do flamboyant Broadway performer, but let's get to Tony's. By the way, you mentioned Dune real quick and we'll get to Tony. Did you see the news, the casting news regarding Austin Butler?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Oh, I did. Tell us. I am not happy about this. Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films, top five film for me, one of the greatest dark comedies ever made. Don't touch it, but they're remaking it. Or a new spin on an old classic.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Austin Butler has been cast as Patrick Bateman, according to reports. I don't like this one. I asked Elvis. That part's not true. No, but they told him to do the Elvis accent the whole time. He's been doing the Elvis accent accent all time since he did the movie He was forced to stop actually
Starting point is 00:28:54 That was did you like Elvis I happen to know The the last act Christian Bale that was my introduction to him. I was American Psycho. I don't know who else is. That is where I discovered that somebody was a good actor. I do not need that remade. But I am trying to get over to where Tony was. For several weeks now, I've been trying to get over to that corner of the room
Starting point is 00:29:23 and the movies that he will stop on every time and now we're finally here. But Tony, I have a question for you. Okay. Do you think Austin Butler straddles the line between genius and hack the way that Walken and Nicolas Cage did? Because I kind of think he's bordering on bad actor.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But so bad that he's good? That he's becoming a bit of a caricature of himself and you don't do that in your 20s. Like he's going to, I guarantee you, here's my bold prediction for Austin Butler. Ten years from now, he's going to make an appearance that will revitalize his career in a comedy where he pokes fun at himself because he's just become too outrageous a human. He's not a real person.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And who is the greatest example of that in acting? Is it Busey? Is it Gary Busey? Busey, Cage, Walken. These are the guys. Good job invoking Busey. He belongs in that class. He doesn't belong in the class with Nick Cage.
Starting point is 00:30:13 In terms of cartoon characters? He's not. Nick Cage is a brilliant actor who actually, one of the best movies he's made recently was him playing himself. And I'm completely blanking because I'm just ready to get to Tony. He's straddling the line. He's straddling the line.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's a very thin line. Look, it's gone. We've seen Nick Cage straddle the line and go well over the line and become a punch line. This guy's crazy. It looks like Bad Lieutenant. It's because he needed the money. O.L.I.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's a long list, Anno. He's made a lot of movies. Nick Cage has made a lot of movies while trying to pay the IRS. I think, and he buys a bunch of dinosaur bones and everything else. All I'm saying is that if any other 28-year-old man were on college game day
Starting point is 00:30:54 and was doing college football picks, you guys wouldn't be like, oh my God, he knows football? It was weird. The reaction, they wanted him, they wanted him to not know anything, and the bar was very low on Chalamet Oh, I any mission impossible movie
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's just starting to get the the beak wet, you know what I mean? Like I'm scrolling through it's like oh all of a sudden it's fallout. Oh, I'm in I'm watching the entire thing The movie that David was thinking of is the unbearable weight of massive talent on Nicolas Cage is what he was looking For there. I'm sorry keep going also synonym for my top five another Set of movies that I will always stop on a James Bond film Stumbled into it by mistake It was unprepared No, no, that's not these are all part of it. All right getting entire franchises
Starting point is 00:31:45 Well, no, because obviously there's there's many many movies you talk about seven movies No, but what he's saying he's going off of what Jessica said, which is during the holidays I don't necessarily associate this with the holidays But if there is a slow time over these next ten days at the end of the month and there's a bond marathon somewhere You're locked in I'm gonna get hypnotized for about 20 minutes on whatever's going on there Like I'm I'm gonna get stopped and I'm gonna I will not move on from that. I will stop in on bond Nobody channel surfs anymore I'm just telling you I will I'll do that around bond around mission impossible. Thank you
Starting point is 00:32:19 All right next one still in the oil. I by the way coming to America The original one obviously the second we don't really acknowledge Yeah, the secret we don't acknowledge but so Mike on American Psycho You don't want it made like you just simply you don't think because he just mentioned coming to America We didn't need the remake the first one was fine. No First one was great. Just don't like the awesome Butler casting either is Patrick Bateman can play like one of the other ancillary roles. Like, you know, give him Thoreau's role. No, don't give him Patrick Bateman.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It's been perfected. I don't need to see someone else in the role. That dude from Euphoria and Saltburn, that should be Patrick Bateman. Barry Key Hone? No, Lordy. No, Lordy, duh. Oh, the tall handsome guy.
Starting point is 00:32:58 He's got a beard now. It looks weird with the beard. Oh, he doesn't. Samson, what are you doing there? What are you doing that you're trying to summon a name to play the game that you know somebody and then you get it wrong? Like what do you, why?
Starting point is 00:33:10 I always got his name wrong. Like Cerys Rye. But why, what are you offering to the conversation by limping in by floating up with Barry something or another and you're like what are you contributing to the conversation? Tony? The one who was dating Sabrina Carpenter. We know who, we were all on the same page something or another and you know like what do you do what are you contributing to the conversation Tony the One who is dating Sabrina Carpenter we know we know who we were all on the same page and David badly
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yes, you could say that again Tony say it again Scarface Anytime no matter what time it's a three-hour movie so anytime that it comes on I'll catch it right when the blimps going over the world is yours, and I'm like you know what the world is mine Thank you. When is that gonna stop being a thing Tony because that's the same for me your list I you I have never heard a list that has had this kind of kindred holding up a mirror to you Dan I'm just I will stop. It does not matter when Scarface is in the it just doesn't matter I'm gonna get to where Frank Lopez is dead and he's offering Ernie a job every dog has his day Frank
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oli number whatever hateful eight I'm a big fan of hateful eight the worst of the Tarantino There's other bad ones My Tantino does not make any bad ones. I think that's the worst of, he has not made a bad one. Goggins kills it in that one though. He was great in that. He's incredible. All the characters are great, but that movie,
Starting point is 00:34:32 look, I don't even think it's an insult to call something the worst of the Tarantino movies. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is not better than Hateful Eight. We'll just start there. It is a million times better. A million times better, and awesome butler actually kills that assignment. Wow, Jessica really gave you a side idea.
Starting point is 00:34:47 That's fine. Hateful Eight's a terrible movie. She doesn't like Hateful Eight. If Hateful Eight was made by somebody else, I don't think we'd give it this much of a runway to be like, well, you know, it's just a little bit of a... We would have not even watched it. You would have been like, this might just be bad.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Not your list. Yep. Whoa, wait a minute. Wait a minute. No, he's right. I'm going to go see Taylor. On Tony's list is something that both Mike and Jessica are reducing to terrible stuff for Tarantino? Have you seen all the Tarantinos?
Starting point is 00:35:14 I agree. I've basically seen every single one of them, yeah. Which one haven't you seen? Basically is different than seeing them all. I remember starting Jackie Brown. I didn't finish it. Oh, Jackie Brown's so good. It is good.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I didn't finish it. It's one of his best. A little slow in the beginning, so I kind of tuned up. I didn't finish it. Oh, Jackie Brown's so good. It is good. I didn't finish it. It's one of his bests. A little slow in the beginning, so I kind of tuned up. I went to Mission Impossible. You know, you guys see what's happening here, right? It's getting bad. Tarantino made an action movie with a lot of killing.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It's a bit of a Western. Jackie Brown, let's move it along, Jackie Brown. Exploitation. I don't like the pan. A little slow. He saw Django, the one with action. I saw Django, Django was incredible. He saw the Western with action. Okay, there's a theme girls
Starting point is 00:35:47 I mean the tapestry Tony needs a little action in his movie. I think you're on now You know why my wife and I don't watch movies together. Uh, next one of the all I this is the last of the OLA We're still in no any yeah, of course No, don't Indiana Jones any of them except for. Except for the ones like the Crystal Skull, the Compass one. Those all suck. The original Indiana Jones. Okay? Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade. Any of those I will go out and watch and if they're on, I will stop every single time. Tony, this is what we are as kindred spirits. If I was playing right now a game show with my wife that was about knowing each other,
Starting point is 00:36:27 we would both know that the thing that causes her the most shame about me is that she will walk into a room where I'm watching Indiana Jones and she will hit me with a again. Snakes, why did it have to be snakes? The newlywed game is a game. There is a game like that. Is it still there? Are we still playing the newlywed game? Is game. There is a game like that. Is it still there?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Are we still playing the newlywed game? Is that still a televised game show? Is that still something that's on? If you channel surf, you can find it. On cruise ships, they still play it. Do they? It catches the date in the air. Roy, did you play it on your cruise ship?
Starting point is 00:36:56 No. Did you go watch it? No. Everyone goes to watch it. Come on. They get three couples up there. They get a young couple. They get a middle couple and then a really old couple.
Starting point is 00:37:03 They're always so adorable. Didn't that happen? Roy, did you interact with others on this cruise ship? Couples up there they get a young couple they get a middle couple and a really old couple there was so adorable did not happen Roy did you interact with others on this cruise ship? So there was there was no community anything you didn't go to a show you didn't talk to a stranger You just stared at the sea for four days. That's right. Come on. I know you went to the sail-and-away party No, come on up on deck 10 go not white party pink pink No, they went to bingo. I joined them late Showed up late to bingo. I didn't know what it were so the bow of the ship like Roy From the old man in his seat yes you went to the life the lifeboat drill. You have to go to that. Nobody went to the life
Starting point is 00:37:51 Mustard this is one of the few windows All right continuing the whole lie we got a couple left Christ man oceans 11 Nobody's smooth and Danny Ocean Dan, you know that that's another movie. You'll stop on every time I do like the oceans movies In fact, Andy Garcia is gonna be on South Beach sessions here in a couple of weeks and I couldn't stop staring into his eyes Just because of whatever it is that oceans does they get there. There are certain movies There are certain Indiana Jones is obviously this but that will just transport you back to a time
Starting point is 00:38:27 where you could just turn your brain off and be a child. And it's everything that's on Tony's list. Every single thing is turning his brain off. Number five. Thank you. This is a two for one actually. So it's five, but it's two for one. Every one is multiple movies.
Starting point is 00:38:42 No, no, I can't, I can't. There's too many, there's too many. Godfather one and two bigger than bonds lighthouse better be on this I've never seen it number four Goodfellas Training day Number two in glorious bastards call you the best movie Tarantino's ever made. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:39:07 We agree there. You had one bad take on Tarantino, but you rallied. That's fine. Goodfellas is the I amuse you. I'm a clown. Is that that one? Are you asking? Yeah, I just get them mixed up.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I get Casino, Goodfellas. They're all the same actors. Especially those kind of do the same thing in both of them. I amuse you. I'm a clown. That's funny, like a clown. That's the one, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Put it on the poll, Juju. Is Inglourious Basterds the best of the Tarantino movies? And also put on the poll, At LeBretard Show is Once Upon a Time in Hollywood better than The Hateful Eight? And also put on the poll, At LeBretard Show, is The Hateful Eight terrible? Number one, Dan, this is a movie that started this entire list because it's the movie that no matter what time of the movie It's on I will watch it and I will watch it to its entirety. Yes. He was a rat, but it doesn't matter number one Denzel in
Starting point is 00:39:59 American Gangster Wow, I thought you were doing Departed. No, no, no, no, no. He's a rat. He's a rat. He's a cop. He wasn't a cop. He was a rat. That's okay, though, because you know what?
Starting point is 00:40:11 This is $25,000 alpaca. You don't wipe it. You blot that shit. Yeah. I like his list. It was an excellent list. I think David's would be so much different than yours. Mine would have EdTV on it.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I don't know what that is. EdTV on it. I don't know what that is. EdTV? If we had to do a list for you, you could do one probably off the top of your head that would be even longer than his, would you not? I could get it down to five quickly, easily. Alright, well let's do it quickly then. Number five, A Few Good Men. Every single time. You can't handle the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's the movie. Ayu. Number four, Fletch. Fletch is a great movie. That should have been all live. Fletch is great. 6'4", 6'8", with the Afro. I can't believe that you and Tony are connecting on Fletch.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Tony has never known one of the old movies that you're talking about. When you go 1970s on Tony, you always lose Tony. How does he know Fletch? That's from the 80s, and you get the Afro joke. Number three. Number three, Ed TV. That's Matthew McConaughey, Jenna Elfman.
Starting point is 00:41:16 It was the beginning of the Kardashians. Who doesn't want to watch that? Number two, nobody here, evidently. Number two. No. Everyone here is staring at you. I've never seen that. I haven't gotten around to it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Everyone here. I've heard of it. I'd rather watch a Truman show. Did you not see the general indifference and the blank stares looking back at you? Nobody knew what you were talking about. Like this concept was done better with Jim Carrey, so I was just moving on.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Number two, Castaway. Oh, I love the lonely in Castaway. I watched that. I'll actually make sure I find it. I love the lonely. Heaway. I watched that. I'll actually make sure I find it. I love the lonely. He was on Survivor, of course. This is very of his genre. Number one. And the number one movie that I will always watch?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Stranger Than Fiction. A terrible list. Weird list. Mine was way better, right? Both sucked. It was. Howdy, it's Mike. Want to talk to you about Game Time, for my money, the very best secondary
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