The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: So...Do You Hedge?

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

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I think just now, I don't know what to do with this, Jessica, because we've been doing two hours of show unevenly, and Amin said right before we turned on the microphones, as I was headed toward other subject matter, ah, we buried the lead on the Jimmy Butler thing. Like, I know, Jessica, what am I supposed to do with this? Like, what am I supposed to do? I mean? You already lost your bet, so stakes on you. Second of all, very dangerous game

when you call someone out for laughing off air, and then they have to think of something to say. Like, just happened to me the last time. I didn't want to say what I was thinking. I made something up, I don't even know what I said. Jessica. You just did it to a mean. Jessica.

A mean, tell us why you're laughing, a mean. Jessica. Because I sent him a funny Sesame Street tweet, that's why. Sesame Street., that's why. Sesame Street. Sunny days. Sesame Street.

It was a funny one, right Amin? It was hilarious. Jessica. So Grover had this like hilarious fake mustache and a hat on. And I said that's you. I wanted Jessica. Akbar? You I said, that's you. I wanted Jessica. Akbar?

You're right, that's Akbar. So badly in the last hour to have the words that you were saying to Billy behind a hand while laughing because you didn't want the cameras to catch whatever it is that you were saying, Billy. I wanted those words for about 35 minutes. What did I say to you, Billy? I don't know, what did you say to me?

But it was like a mound visit. It was like LeBron and Wade, she was hiding, I was in the middle of talking, and she was laughing and hiding her hand from me in the audience. I was trying not to be distracting. I've wanted those words for 35 minutes. It is allergy season, maybe she had to sneeze. No, it was pretty clear she was just laughing with you

on a wild Willy Wednesday. Me? That's right. There are two serious things that I actually wanted to get to with Amin that we have not gotten to. The Cain Velasquez story is something that I wanted to get to, and before we got to that I wanted to talk for a second because I did think that something interesting actually ended up springing from all of that Jackie Robinson Defense Department stupidity from last week. Whether it comes to the... Do any of you find yourself alarmed that when it comes to artificial intelligence the stories you get are about the Enola Gay being removed from the record books temporarily

because a World War II bomber from Hiroshima had the word gay in it and Jackie Robbins history has obviously black in it. Are you at all confused and scared that artificial intelligence is literally trying to erase humanity with these stories that are that are that are coming out about stupidities because you've got artificial intelligence handling how it is that things are seen as equal. It's not artificial intelligence doing it like they're using people are using an AI tool to scrape things from websites, but it's people that are behind it. And also what I'm scared about is that's the second worst thing

that's happened around the DOD in this past week. Like there is a another ginormous scandal unfolding. And that one ain't AI. That's correct. That's human error. Human error. Inordinate stupidities where war plans are being sent accidentally to the wrong journalist. Not just to the wrong person, to a journalist. Like of all the people, like not my nanny, not like. Was it Adam?

They said yeah, Adam Schefter, right? Not Adam, wrong Adam. Adam Lichtenstein is who we're talking about. Adam from the Sunset, no. Star of oddball oh there you go how would it mean know who that is yeah I'm awkward madam I wanted to bring David Sampson back because I wanted to do a Patrick I didn't even get to the real parts of these two stories we'll get back to it

we'll get back to it no because it's it the one of the things that sprung from the Jackie Robinson just sheer stupidity you can't even do funny with it. It's just so dumb. Is that RG3 is going on Stephen A Smith's show. This is after RG3, you know, he was trying to make the rounds recently. He reached out to Jamel, reached out to our show. There was something that he wanted to correct

because when it came to Jackie Robinson, he had tweeted out, I just miss when sports shows were about sports. And he went on Stephen A Smith's show and he explained something that I had not considered when I saw that as people turned RG3 into whatever it is that they are willing to say when they say he's not black enough.

RG3 came out and was hurt and was viewing it through the narcissistic eyes of, I want sports shows to be sports shows because when they used to talk about me on first take, Rob Parker was calling me a cornball brother and it was a black guy saying another black guy wasn't quite black enough for his taste and I've been that since.

I had never heard it before and I've been that since for people because I've married a white woman and because of whatever you think of my politics that makes Stephen Ake comfortable enough to say on his show, hey, nobody at ESPN liked you, RG3. I liked you, saying Stephen A. Smith, but no one there liked you because you were somebody who didn't fit.

And so RG3 brought the perspective of I wanted to be talking about sports, not whether I'm black enough. This is something that I run into a lot with certain black athlete friends of mine where they're too white for black people and too black for white people, and so they find this space where all of a sudden that's what they're talking about on first take, and RG3 has to represent a certain kind of black.

Yeah, for what it's worth, RG3's defense, as I heard it, not on the show, but behind the scenes as someone who got reached out to, is that his comment had nothing to do with Mina. It was, he didn't even know Mina had said that or gone on the show. Okay. But because he didn't, I'm just telling you,

I'm not, don't shoot the message. Don't shoot the message, you guys. I'm telling you. I'm not doing that to you. I'm derisively doing that to RG3. But basically he's saying that it was said not according to what Mina was talking about. It just happened simultaneously.

He had the worst timing ever to which I responded to an intermediary, that why didn't you immediately just say, hey, by the way, I see a lot of people saying, connect to me that it is, I'm not. And then I got sent what his correction was, and it was as convoluted as anything I've ever seen, but I kind of saw the seeds of him trying to say, oh, it wasn't about me, but he said it in such a convoluted

way that it didn't really land. Yeah, it's just unsurprising, right? Like that's, RG3 is one of several people in the sort of sports media landscape who will just say anything for clicks. Right? I mean, that's what that was. That's putting something out there at a time when the topic was the topic du jour.

And he knew that that would be divisive and not only knew it would be divisive, he knew the specific audience that he was attracting with it. I would say, Jeremy, the only thing I would say is I'm willing to accept that he didn't know that she said that and had no idea, but once he saw the fervor and furor, instead of like say-

Let it sit there on purpose. Let it, yeah. That's fair. Absolutely, cause it's pretty easy to me, if I was talking about something and someone's, oh, you said that about Dan LeBataille? I'm like, oh no, I didn't even hear what Dan said. I would go immediately and correct that.

Cause like 24 hours he let that sit there. Yeah, so, you said that about Dan Levitard? I'm like, oh no, I didn't even hear what Dan said. I would go immediately and correct that. It was like 24 hours he let that sit there. Yeah, so, you know, it is what it is. David Sampson, I never got to the Patrick Ewing off with you and Amin, and I meant to. Are you ready to do that now? I'm gonna, you say it's your wheelhouse, Amin says he's got a better wheelhouse than your wheelhouse.

Can you please tell me what a wheelhouse is? I don't even know what an actual wheelhouse is. House of wheels. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Do you know what a wheelhouse than your wheelhouse. Can you please tell me what a wheelhouse is? I don't even know what an actual wheelhouse is. Put it on the poll at Levitage Show. Do you know what a wheelhouse is? Has to do with boating I would assume. Wheel? What are you, buses? I don't know. Do any of you know what a wheelhouse is? According to artificial intelligence on Google, it says that in your wheelhouse originates from the nautical term for small enclosed area on a ship where the captain steers. So score one for Billy.

A seaman. Oh, Dan. David. That's a raise for him by the way, Dan. Only if it makes it. Only if it makes it all the way. Gets to the end zone, then yes. I think that-

I'm two for two. It's a great- We need the third one though. That's where the money comes in. Red zone conversion. Millie, the way that you describe being married where you have to go to a NASCAR race in order to get a piece of quiet.

That was a private conversation. I just said, I got some peace and quiet over the weekend. You said where? I said at home. Said my heavy speedway during the NASCAR race. The loudest place to have some quiet time. You're gonna learn not to tell Dan things. Just you know, a moment that I was sitting there

in the grandstand and I thought, man I could just think here if it wasn't so damn loud, but this is also the quietest it's been in a long time. Anyways, David, if I were to tell you, guess which sports a young Patrick Ewing excelled at as a child, which sports would you say? I have no idea. I would say that it seems hard to imagine

that he was late to basketball, but I guess it's possible. So I would assume it's not tennis. Can I steal? Yeah. Okay, so he was late to basketball because he emigrated here from Jamaica. So he played soccer and volleyball. We got one of the two.

He played soccer and cricket. Cricket. Yeah. Huge in Jamaica. That's a wheelhouse, I mean, right there, knowing what he did in Jamaica. Okay. Guess what, man? When you like the sport, you know everything. You know a wheelhouse, Samin, right there, knowing what he did in Jamaica. Guess what, man? When you like the sport, you know everything.

You know, just the, oh, I know for the seven years. Well, you know half the things, because you got volleyball wrong. I mean, your question, did Patrick Ewing win rookie of the year? He sure did. David, please spell Patrick Ewing's middle name. A, is it A-L-A-N?

It does start A-L, that's close. What is it? Alistair. It's A-L-O-Y-S-I-U-S. Aloysius. Aloysius. So, so far our wheelhouse guys have gotten just about everything wrong.

Like when a mean tries to steal it, he steals it incorrectly. Well, close enough. Closer than David. David thinks his name's Alan, but other than that, we're close. I was just looking over at the signed pair of Game U sneakers I have.

And he doesn't spell out his full name. All right, here's a question. But he does sign it with C33. Okay, here's a question. What size sneaker does David Sampson own autographed by Patrick Ewing? I mean, do you know his foot size? So there's a funny thing about this story.

Patrick Ewing does not have large feet at all. And I would assume as I'm looking, it's probably only a 12 to a 13, and that's it. Patrick Ewing wears 13s. Yes? It's up to you to confirm. David has the shoes, you can see, I don't know the size.

It says 15 here, but that doesn't sound right compared to what you guys are saying. Same as we've been. Yeah, small feet. You guys are getting everything wrong, because I'm not a, look, it's not a... You said, you guys said, you guys said, David, how do you not know the size of the shoes

that you've purchased that are in your house? How could you get that wrong? I literally could care less how big his foot is. I have the shoes because of the meaning of those shoes in my life, not the fact that they're a 12 or a 15 or a 20. I have Shaq shoes because I can live in them and those are like a 24, I mean, and those are just shocking.

They're so heavy to even lift. Patrick's shoes are just normal. I worked with a guy, I know. Okay, so next question. Amin, what do those shoes mean to David Sampson? The world. Look at me be wrong. Uh oh. Is that for David?

That was. You worked with him is what you said of Shaq. You're in the tank for Shaq. I'm not in the tank, I work with the guy. That's his guy though, he showed up to the funeral. Do we believe that Shaq forgot that he bought a car and it just showed up at his house. And the cameras, there were cameras there.

Exactly right, like that was a lot. Why does he do these things? You know Shaq, why does Shaq do these things? Because he thinks it's funny. Because he thinks it's funny. I'll be honest with you, by the way, 90% of the stuff doesn't make it out for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is,

you can't do that one big fella. I'm gonna least of which is, you can't do that one, big fella. I'm gonna tell you right now, you can't do that. I'll tell a story. Remember what he called Chris Bosh the RuPaul of big men? You guys remember that one? So what happened was Shaq caught the ball and made a legal basketball move, and Chris Bosh over exaggerated the reaction.

Refs toss him. Flagrant two, you're out, right? And this was before they could review these things. So Shaq comes to the back and sits in with us in the video room and he's literally workshopping all the things he's gonna say about Chris Bosh at the end. And we're like, Big Fella, you can't say that one. No, you cannot say that.

That's not, so then I was like, what if I say he's the RuPaul of big men? And we all looked around the room and we're like, I think that's just on this side of acceptable. This is why DEI should exist in all organizations. Towing the line. Amin was there. What do you mean, DEI?

Amin was there. I can think of some other voices that might not have loved RuPaul of big men. But it doesn't really mean anything. Does it not? And yet it means everything, right? It does. That's why it tells the line.

I would side with Jeremy on this one. That Kevin Duranto on the line. Not surprised though, we're too woke. In 1984 at the Olympics, when Patrick Ewing was one of the players for Team USA to win the gold medal, what jersey number did he wear? I'll give it to you, David. I think I know which one, but go ahead.

My best guess would be six. Me too, six. It was number six. The Wheelhouse, ladies and gentlemen! There it is! Yeah! That includes the Wheelhouse. Thank you, David, thank you.

David, one last thing for the Wheelhouse. Patrick Ewing went to as many NBA finals as Jimmy Butler. You still throw that out there. Oh wait, time out. They made the same number of rings. That's not correct. What do you mean? Is that correct?

Yes, they went to the same number of, you know what? It's his wheelhouse, Dan. And you know what? Hold on, let me give you another one. Jimmy Butler played more NBA finals games than Patrick Ewing did. You know why? Because Patrick Ewing didn't play in them second finals.

He was sitting, nursing, a wrist injury by who was the guy that hurt him and what city? It was 1999 and I don't remember. I mean, I just know that it was a nightmare that he couldn't play. That was when I believe we beat the Heat as an eight seed that year. That was the Allen Houston shot in Miami. But 1994 was when Jordan was retired and we got seven, he got seven finals games. So he's played a total of seven finals games, two finals, no rings. Yes. The other finals he didn't play, Dan, was because he was hurt. They lost to the Spurs in five games, but Jimmy Butler played in his five games.

I also want to throw out real quick, David, yeah, they beat the Heat in the first round, three, two. Who'd they play in the second round that year? They played the Pacers in the third round. The second round would have been, could have been the Hawks. Yes, and what was the series? We would have gotten that. It didn't go seven, so I'm gonna say six.

Sorry, it was a sweep. Go ahead, go back to your little wheelhouse. Okay, no, you guys stink at wheelhouses. I don't know, that was pretty good on the top of his head for someone that's not supposed to be anhouse. Okay, no, you guys stink at wheelhouse. I don't know, that was pretty good on top of his head for someone that's not supposed to be an expert. No, but he's picking the facts that he knows and we ask them questions and they got them all wrong.

Thank you David for being on with us and showing off of your expertise. Bravo David. Before the end of the show I want this bet with Jessica but in the meantime we've got a stat of the day involving Jimmy Butler. Start of the day, start of the day and this got a start of the day. That today is presented by Miller Lite.

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That just stunk as a stat of the day. The stat of the day is meant to resonate historically. It's meant to be something you remember and maybe tell your friends later. Something that people who don't know the show might hear and repeat, like, wow, Shohei Otani did all of that on on a half of the tag a gas or whatever i got to should be

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Stugats! It's the final night gown. This is the Dan LeVatar Show with the Stugats. I don't think that I think the bet has to have greater stakes than that I think it needs to be if we're gonna build it up all show we've got it's got to have consequences I mean stakes are pretty good I also agree when the start of the day is like hey 20 points is more than 18 points. It's not the best. Yeah, that stings. Kyle Anderson was plus 24.

It stings. And thank you for all of your hard work. And when I say that, it wasn't hard work at all. It was incredibly lazy. So I wanted to talk about something here, March Madness related. Can you get, can we get a poll together on the following because somebody made a $5 bet, $5, Can we get a poll together on the following?

Because somebody made a $5 bet, $5, on the following parlay. Dodgers to win the World Series, this is from last year. Dodgers to win the World Series. Ohio State to win the National Championship in football. The Eagles to win the Super Bowl. Tennessee to win in college baseball, to win the College World Series. Still on the way.

And now they have Duke to win the National Championship. What do you think that that should pay? A $5 bet that has those five in play, what do you think that that should pay roughly? Five figures at least. Five? Yeah. I'm going pay roughly five figures at least five yeah I'm going high five figures I'm going seven thirty seven thousand dollars no that's that's close to like

fifty sixty seventy thousand seventy seventy three thousand so it's a hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars on a five dollar bet and and what I wanted to ask you guys is what is the correct way to hedge that like what is what because i'm not a fact i'm i'm a terrible game amateur likes like a really terrible gambler i'm not good at it in any way uh... draft king should be ashamed for giving me any of their money but i give it all right but i don't think that's a contract i'm just saying like fight i could be the worst gambler there's ever been because I just like I just want to have

One bet on one game, but a lot of game He is the perfect person for drafting to pay because as he just said he's gonna take all of that money Yes, right back right back. They might as well be laundry Where's that music My guess is he'll win seven million dollars We already gave it you aren't listening. We already gave the answer, but that's excellent producing You got to let it ride Dan because Duke is the favorite right now, Tennessee in baseball You've got to let it ride you guys wouldn't hedge that you guys so wait a minute Tony. I know that's not true Tony

You're you're no Tony You just had a baby if you made a $5 bet and you need now Duke to win the national championship for $168,000, you have to hedge that if, and I'm asking you, how do you hedge it? Do you bet 10, $20,000 on their next four opponents as you go to make sure that you guarantee yourself acts what's the lowest amount of money now i know some people would

just sell this ticket this ticket might go somebody might buy this ticket for seventy thousand dollars like this is something that can that that is done and that's how you get out how do you hedge this bet i'm sure professional gambler would would easily answer this question but i don't know how to do it so i was confused i thought it thought it was Tennessee baseball from this season, but it's from last season. So they already won it in May of 2024. Got to his last season.

Do we know when this parlay bet was placed? Because if it was after May of 2024, then we're talking about this upcoming College World Series. No, no, it was last College World Series. All the four bets have won. They've already cashed everything else. Duke is the only thing remaining. Got it. So forgive me for not explaining that correctly.

It's been an affliction today. So should the poll be should this person hedge, or should they write it out? First of all, I'm asking you guys. We'll get to the poll in a second. Thank you, Billy. Perhaps you can help me with that and create the poll yourself.

I'll go first, Dan. I don't know. Good, I know. I have no idea. This is, I don't know. Good. I have no idea. That's this is, I don't know. Look, I'm not going to say it's in the same zip code as, uh, as that's that of the day, but it's close. It's close. Yeah. You can see neighboring. Move off of looking for me to answer. Cause I don't know. All right, Dan. So here's, here's the thing. So the cash shot,

I just looked it up the cash out for the guy's 50 grand. So if I tell my wife, look, baby, listen, we got 50 grand cash for sure. Obviously uncle Sam's gonna take his piece, you know, things are gonna happen. Whatever but Duke right now. I mean his steamrolling dude like they are not close. They are just beating their third guy is great Okay, you know you've seen Cooper flag, right? You get Cooper flag. He's like, oh, yeah I saw him in the select thing and the thing on max. I was like, yep. Yep. Same guy. He's incredible It's gonna be the number one pick maybe the Wizards maybe the Hornets who knows not the point The point is he's the best player in college basketball right now Duke is churning. They're the best Duke team We've seen in maybe 20 years a long time. It's been a long time, baby

You know what's better than 50 grand cash after Uncle Sam taking his piece, which you know, we're gonna leave me like 30 something Okay, you know what's better than that? What's better? 168 grand. That's a lot of money. I tell baby hey, all of a sudden Miami Real Estate, you know how it is, we take that money. Jessica is saying, she doesn't know and I don't know and there is a professional way to do this but what I'm asking all of you is the hypothetical.

Would you guys hedge that or would you just try and ride it out? Because I would assume all of you would hedge it to guarantee yourself an amount of money that doesn't wait for whether or not Cooperflag's ankle goes again. And Duke can win it obviously without Cooperflag. Well, I don't know if they can win it without Cooperflag. It makes it easier with Cooperflag.

Yeah, Cooperflag. I think you have to wait till you get to the final and then just absolutely monster hedge on the other team, right? Because you're still waiting. Because right now you can't just pick Duke or the field for $50,000. I can't take a second mortgage, a HELOC out of my house and then put it on the field.

I do think that because it was a $5 bet from the jump, this changes a lot, right? Like if it was a huge bet with then a huge payout, maybe you continue to invest. But the fact that you only put five bucks on it, it's like ride what that feels like until the end. And maybe you don't come up with $168,000, but in the worst case, you lost five bucks.

But that's what it cashed out. No, but you lost 50,000 bucks. You didn't lose five bucks. In the worst cases, you lost 50. What kind of math are you doing? Terrible math. This is why I was a journalism major, Dan! He couldn't sell it to his wife, that's the issue.

Nah, there you go, number one, number two. This is what's giving you that kind of stat of the day. Arithmetic. Okay, why is he in charge of the stat of the day if he doesn't know basic math? We're gonna understand. I was really good at calculus. Were you?

Yeah, I was great. Yeah, I got a five on the AP exam. U plus me equals us. There it is. 50 grand Dan. 50 grand's a lot of money. Yeah. 168 more. What I'm asking you guys is, do you have the confidence in Duke

to lose $118,000? Do you have the confidence in Duke to bet $118,000 that they're going to win their next four games? Tony, you got to sell it again. Hold on. Again, Cooper flag. You seen him, Dan. You saw when they threw him that alley oop,

and he screamed as he dunked. And then he got off, and the crow was like, ah! Is there a cash-out option for $50,000? Yeah right now right now He can cash out but again He's losing only five actual dollars that he bet that's what I'm sick. Thank you Billy like thank you I put into it is $5 Billy, thank you Billy. Like what he's put into it is $5. Are we crazy? That's 50,000 is people's revenue right now.

He's giving up the opportunity to take $50,000. Thank you. But he's also missing out on the opportunity to win $90,000, $108,000, whatever it is. So if a genie showed up now, Billy, and just said to you, hey, I can either give you 50 grand now or we can wait and see if Duke wins and I'll give you 168, what are you doing?

Are you saying no thanks, genannie, and you're walking away? No, I mean, I would take it, but I'm like. You take the 50 or you say I'll hold out for Duke? No, I'll take the 50. There you go, then that's your answer. It's easy money, but Tony's talking me into the 168. By the way, Conk Nipple, another guy in the lottery, K2, very good from the outside,

but can mix it in with the big boys inside, big body. They got Maluk, who's incredible too. Are you pronouncing those names correctly? Conk-a-nipple, yes. A lot of people. The other guy knows. It doesn't seem like Knipple should, but I know it is because I've watched him play, but it just doesn't seem right.

I saw people being critical of Tony earlier saying he was mispronouncing multiple names on Duke, not today, earlier. Cooper flagging Conk-a-nipple is exactly how you say it. So whoever that guy is, dork. Yeah. I want to combine spoiler Wednesdays with this current Duke conversation for a moment. Did you guys see that, and this is a White Lotus light spoiler, so fast forward if you don't want to know anything about the most recent episode. It's a spoiler Wednesday, I thought we were allowed to do whatever we wanted on Wednesday. I'm still getting the spoiler alert.

Duke was not happy with the usage of their trademark in the most recent episode of The White Lotus, and they released a statement saying, the White Lotus not only uses our brand without permission, but in our view, uses it on imagery that is troubling, does not reflect our values or who we are, and simply goes too far. And then they further talked about, you know,

suicide awareness and things like that. But I want to know who the Duke person is that Mike White, the creator of White Lotus hates because the usage of Duke in the last episode is something that if you haven't seen it on social media yet is going to become a meme for our times. All right, let's take this to the poll. Do you believe that Duke will win four games? Yes or no. Yeah. All right. Let's take this to the poll. Do you believe that Duke will win four games? Yes or no?

Ooh. This poll is brought to you by Evan Williams Bourbon. Game day's number one pour. Evan Williams Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey. Bars down Kentucky, 43 to 45% alcohol by volume. Enjoy responsibly, 21.0. Can we also put on the poll, are you losing $5 or $50,000? You guys don't like that Duke is pissed that they're in a funny meme now. I love it

I love it, but also i'm not fond of duke. That's why he just like really hates greg That's why it's funny Dude, that's an interesting question. Who is the person is christian latner? My thing so it like dates all the way back. It could be bryce and alan No, it's jj reddick.. JJ Reddick is another good one. We already had this conversation. Those are the three Mount Rushmore guys at Duke. I don't know who's number four on Annoying Guy.

The Secret Sauce, is it Shane Batier's fourth? Shane Batier. I mean, does Coach K count? Of course he does. All right, let's make that fourth spot. So wait, Mike was 54. I thought he was a little younger, so it probably is Christian Leitner.

Yeah, Christian Leitner. So we have on the Mount Rushmore of most annoying Duke players ever, because if what you're telling me, like man, Cooper Flag, Boston's going to really want him. So is Utah. Utah, Dan. Utah. Utah.

Utah. Danny Ange left everything Boston to go, I'll build you out here. I'll build you out here with Cooper Flag in Utah. So you know the Vince McMahon meme of like he's going and he's leaning back. That's Utah, right? The first one is like, what if I gave you Lori Markkinen?

Oh, that's pretty interesting. Then the next one is like, Walker Kessler. Whatever you want, and then the third one is, what do I give you, Philip Palsky? And then the fourth one, Cooper Flag I give you? Filipowski and then the fourth one Cooper flag The laser shooting out of his eyes That's how it goes for Utah. Well, you guys are saying you have to understand

Okay, so you've got John skipper and David Sampson asking the question How do we pay these people and what does it mean if Duke we're all watching Duke and we're like, whoa them in Florida They look a lot better than everybody else. This is pronounced. This looks like they're maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe somehow Calipari can sneak some Calipari magic in and somewhere, but we're watching there. You tell me if there's a third team that belongs in here because Duke and Florida to me look like they're a level above professional between professional basketball and what's now minor league basketball they seem to be

a good deal better so if I make Duke better at recruiting and better at money than everyone when I'm walking around now doing the absurd thing of saying, yeah, your roster costs 20 million. That's what it costs in college football. You gotta have $20 million. If Duke gets all of the winning and they have a monopoly on annoying guys, right, throughout history, there's no other school. Is there another school that you assign

even two annoying guys to for a Mount Rushmore? In the history of college basketball is there another school that you would say I've got two Mount Rushmore America hated this person? When you're talking about everything that Duke represents all of it Redick, Grayson Allen, and Christian Leightner are all-time hated players. I don't even know if we can make those anywhere outside of Duke anymore. Like an all-time hated player because of don't even know if we can make those anywhere outside of Duke anymore. Like an all-time hated player because of the school you're at, because we know you're good, because you're arrogant, because you think you're better than everyone, and you slap

the court on defense. Hate that. Hate that. So much. Oh, you play defense. Wohjo is a good one. Wohjo should be on that mountain. If we're going with coaches, that's a different story, because I think Dan Hurley has arrived.

Oh, man. He's way worse than Coach K. Like way more polarizing than coach K for sure. I think coaches actually there's a conversation. Patino people didn't like Patino. Coach Cal people really didn't like coach Cal. Bobby Knight. No it's easy with coaches. I'm talking about players. I'm asking America to give me the program that's got a player that you recoil with the three I just named with. That guy just annoys me. It's not because he's a bad person. It's just your face. It's your face.

This is going to lose perhaps the shipping container, Dan, but Indiana and Steve Alfordford people really didn't like that dude man the five five It was their shorts more than the shorts Their shoes You saw the story about you can threatening the reporter who posted the video of Dan Hurley, right? I mean, that's some like evil, ill, and shit. Bobby Mullin, the SID over at Yukon, which I love, he threatened him, he said, I will end you, right? He said that. I will ruin you. I will ruin you, and then they come out

with the statement afterward, and he said, new at six, SID threatens reporter, or whatever. I'm like, guy, you can't start your apology with schtick or can you? He did and I thought it was glorious really quick really quick I mean I have a question because you talked about Utah and Walker Kessler and re marketing Cooper flag possibly Filipowski could they field an all-white starting lineup? I'm glad you asked that because just the other night in Los Angeles The Bulls fielded an all white lineup.

They scored 150 with an all white lineup on Luke and LeBron. Dude, that team is so good. They're fun. Yeah, they're fun. So we revealed this on Basketball Illuminati the other day and it was, I was like, is that right? No, I don't even think they have five white players, but nope, it was right. They had five whites on the floor It was Matas buzellas who's not bad by the way. They're giving him minutes. He's pretty looking good. I

Just realized the joke Thank you. It was Matas buzellas. It was That sounds like you're going to the bathroom. What happened there? He's looking for the white guys. What just happened? Gideon has been playing the title, by the way. Kevin Herder, probably. Kevin Herder, Vuzovic, and Kobe White.

Five Whites. Five Whites, and one of them actually named White. There you go. Yeah, you got it. Four Whites, and one named White. Oh, I thought, wait a minute, forgive me. I was gonna trade for Derek White. Oh, no, well, Kobe White's already there.

Yeah, we didn't need him. But Boston could counter with Porzingis, Luke Cornett. Prichard. Prichard, Hauser, and Derek White. White versus White, that would be the great NBA Finals ratings, right? Can I just examine for a second?

I simply want to examine an SID, a sports information director. So this is somebody who is working in communications, who their job is to disseminate sports information. Do you realize how great a threat it is to be able to shout at someone, I will ruin you. To shut, the confidence you have to have to shout something like that in public and the rage that you have to have to shout something like that at somebody, at a journalist. I know of some journalists who have yelled stuff like that.

I can't think of a single SID that I know in real life that would fly off the handle like this. The job of the SID is also to make the team look good and to make the players look good, to have media relations where they're like, hey, we're the good guys here. We didn't do anything wrong. And he's like, oh, ruin you.

We're posting a thing that actually happened that we all heard. When your job is to disseminate sports information that you don't want disseminated. That's why I love his apology because it starts at the sarcastic, new at six, SID gets angry at reporter for saying something. That's how he started his apology like, I went off the handle a little bit, but first some shtick. So good though that I'll ruin you. Hurley is, and gosh, I love when these coaches are content machines. His arrogance is earned.

Of course. And he knows it. Like, he speaks it. He yells it at referees. And it's, I'm stunned to see it. Because Belichick didn't behave that way. Like, there have been people who have been as great as he is. And he descends from coaching.

So he really, like his whole story crafted by Woj and a basketball family of how it is that they rule basketball in the Northeast because they teach it better. They have respect. The Hurleys have respect. Oh, Hurley's a good Duke hated guy. There you go.

Oh yeah. His brother is a duke hated guy. There you go. Oh yeah. His brother is a good duke hated guy. The Hurley name feels like it's basketball royalty. It is. In the Northeast, where they celebrate the whites. There's no other point I wanted to make there.