The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Starts With A "M," Ends With An "A"

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Trey Wingo, who sounds like a 3-count chicken meal at a Mexican restaurant, is here to discuss his real name, the Top 5 Places Belichick Can End Up, Patrick Mahomes' excellence, the Cleveland Browns debacle at QB, and how to properly consume steak. Then, are steak people or wine people more annoying? Also, we take time to celebrate the historically bad Chicago White Sox with some mesmerizing stats. Plus, our friendly neighborhood race lady Jemele Hill is here. Jemele questions why we always put the onus on victims to create change, whether that's in sexual assault or interactions with the police. She also breaks down last night's standout moments from the debate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. This interview with Trey Wingo is presented by LinkedIn Jobs. Yes, Trey Wingo, last seen walking around behind Stugats, the fringes of Kansas City through the parking lot. Stugats took a photograph in front of a City through the parking lot. Stugats took a photograph in front of a bunch of porta-potties and then soon thereafter Trey Wingo was in the middle of all things football. Let's welcome him in the

way that Stugats would most like by doing a top five list of places that Belichick is most likely to end up after week one. Right, this could change but this is just after week one. That's right, after week one we're gonna want to update this every week so number five Stugats. Notre Dame. Wow, all right good start to the list. Number four. The Cincinnati Bengals. Number three. Dan the Bengals could be 0-2 after this week they play the Chiefs. Number three. Dan the Bengals could be 0 and 2 after this week they play the Chiefs. Number three. New York Giants. Don't they always beat the Chiefs?

It seems like they can always beat the Chiefs. Number two. You're right. Jacksonville Jaguars. Number one. The Jets. I'm telling you right now, if I'm Woody Johnson, I call Belichick. I see if he's interested.

If he is, I fire Salat today. I hire Bill Belichick. That's just me. All right. He's the host of the new DraftKings Network show pregame power-up It's kicking off every Monday and Thursday night from 6 to 7 p.m. On the DraftKings Network If you did not notice yesterday, this is what actually happened with Stugatz He offered to us if he loses against Tennessee Salah should be fired We had no reaction to that then heennessee's salad should be fired we had no reaction to that then he updated into he should be fired right now then he updated to he should have been fired yesterday and and and he'll keep going until he gets the reaction that he wants but

uh... let's start here i thought with tray wingo thank you for being on with this a what did you make of stew gots is list and be how much trouble is salla actually in in new york if that doesn't work quickly it has to work quickly or everybody's in trouble i mean let's just be honest about that i love the list to gots i would say the Giants is probably most likely in that scenario because that's where he cut his teeth and yeah obviously that's where you know his his game plan against the bills defensive game plan super bowl 25 is still a

masterpiece he basically told the defense we're gonna let Thurman Thomas You know, his game plan against the Bills, defensive game plan, Super Bowl 25 is still a masterpiece. He basically told the defense, we're gonna let Thurman Thomas run for as many yards as he wants to, but we're gonna knock the crap out of those receivers every chance we get. And that's how they got that 20 to 19 win over the Bills when no one missed wide right.

So also I just think it's very important for me, and I appreciate you guys keeping me forever for your audience, me and Porta Potty's together, because I think that's accurate. And I think it's a good way for me and I appreciate you guys like keeping me forever for your audience, me and Porta Potty's together because I think that's accurate. And I think it's a good way for me to be remembered on this show always. How many people refer to you as Hal? Not many actually.

Stu, obviously all the time and you occasionally, but yeah, every once in a while I'll get a Hal, but mostly it's just Trey. Trey is a great upgrade from Hal. I mean, it really is. I, yes, blessed. To me, now looking at me now, this is going to sound funny, but when I was growing up, like, Hal is such an old man's name. Maybe I should change it now. I don't know, but yeah. Back to Hal? I like, yeah, back to Hal.

Hey, Hal's here. get your kids off my lawn Jude you put it on the pole, please at Levitard show. Are we still making howls? Your belief tray is that If I were to say to you the best team in football the last five years has been the San Francisco 49ers the Chiefs just have a better quarterback You agree with that or don't agree with that? Well, I would say here's the way I would answer that question. I think yes, the 49ers roster top to bottom has been the best for a long time. If you go one through 53, it'd be hard to find a team that you would like more than

one through 53. But to your point, and this is not a slight in any way to Brock Purdy, 15 is 15. That dude is fricking magic. Like the coldest thing I've ever heard is what he did last year after, or before, excuse me, before the final game of the regular season, where they beat the Chargers and he didn't play.

And it was his worst season ever in terms of wins and yards per attempt and all this kind of stuff. And the receivers were terrible and they dropped all these passes and all this junk. He texted his family and said I've decided we're going to win the Super Bowl. Not that we're going or I think we have a chance to win or we're gonna do it. I've decided we are going to win the Super Bowl and they had one touchdown drive in that Super Bowl and what was it? In overtime when they needed a touchdown to

win the frickin game. runs for a fourth and one uh... marcos valdez can't lose backwards uh... for eight yards he he reaches that into more plays runs for other first down hits travis kelsey for first down in the hits mccollard with the game winner dude is the coldest mf or i've ever seen so yeah i would i would agree with your assessment he's just the difference maker of all difference makers. What is your takeaway on Jamar Chase

sitting out all off season, being unhappy with his money? And you can have Joe Burrow, but the Bengals have been a cheap franchise for as long as I've been alive, Trey. They run their place like a business in a way that suggests they don't actually have money. So how bad a problem do they have with Jamar Chase there? Well, I think it's going to get ugly quickly if they fall to Kansas City at a game that

games at Arrowhead. And I agree with you, Dan, like, you know, this has been sort of a new era of Cincinnati, right? When Zach Taylor got there and they drafted Burrow and they got Chase, wow, the Bengals are doing the right things. Everything's great. And then Jamar holds out. And then, you know, Mike mike brown who is the oldest of old-school owner said well now that the seasons here we are we're practicing really not going to negotiate and it just i talk to somebody that i trust and i said what is your feeling on what's going on in cincinnati the summary said that the vibe is not good

and then you go and look what happened i mean there's uh... the patriots kudos to jorad mayo and and what they did if you the cincinnati bangles you can't have that team walk into your building and win week one uh... you know you you you're the bangles you're the team like you said that routinely finds a way to beat the chiefs uh... in the regular season and they only active quarterback to beat him in

the postseason right now in the nfl is joe burrow of the cincinnati bangles so yeah i i uh... there there are there are things in cincinnati that just aren't sitting well right now the dallas cleveland game more thoughts there were a lot of games that uh... this this weekend where i knew two good teams were playing and cleveland is a good team but has the biggest quarterback problem in the entire league I would say. Yes.

So your thoughts off of Dallas and Cleveland. Well it's interesting right. The first thing I thought of especially after the first half on the Cowboys I think we're up 20 to 3 is like wow one quarterback is playing like he earned the contract in Dak Prescott and the other quarterback is playing like he never should have been given that contract into Shawn Watson. And you know you'll hear Brown's fans say, well, you know, the offensive line was bad or Cowboys defense is really good.

And all of those things are true. But this is not a one off for the Sean Watson. Like, let's be honest about who he's been ever since he's been a Cleveland Brown. Ever since he got off that 11 game suspension a couple of years ago, he has not come close to being the Deshaun Watson that he was for the Houston Texans when he was putting up really big numbers and they were doing really really good things together. There is a huge problem because his cap hit for the next two years, Dan,

no matter what they do, they cut him, they bench him, his cap hit for the next two seasons is seventy two million dollars. Seventy two million, there's no way around it, seventy two million dollars and he had, this is a sort of a little deep dive into football nerdness here, but you know, he was O of 10 on Sunday against the Cowboys on throws of 15 yards more down the field. Brett Amani used to work with me at ESPN

named Doug Claus, a great researcher. That's the worst percentage ever since they started keeping the statistic of air yards down the field in 2006 No one had ever been worse at those kind of throws. So this is a problem for the Browns They made it to the playoffs with Joe Flacco last year and Deshaun Watson is not getting it done right now And they have to seriously think about playing James Winston The funny thing is Trey. I think you've been hanging out with Stu Gotts a little bit too much. You've got the Stu Gotts personal

collection going on, like the hoodie with the hat. As you can see, Stu Gotts is, I think, wearing that right now. I think there's a little bit too much of you guys. Well, you know, I always just say, wherever I see Stu Gotts, I feel

like he's on the end of a four day bender somewhere. So I'm just, this is my homage. This is my homage to Stu Gotts right here. Let let's go up I want to cover a couple of your viral tweets here the bear I want to ask you about this because the bear wasn't on your deck this there was a great controversy around this tweet so I just like a a formal explanation before playing the looks like game with you what happened here what can you tell us about for

clarity? Oh yeah, so this bear was on, not this bear, but a bear was on my porch and I've shown Stu Gotz the bears that before on my phone that are on, well used to be on my patio all the time. So this bear was on our porch, was it 2018, 2019, I can't remember what it was, anyway, was it 2018, 2019, I can't remember what it was. Anyway, and I couldn't get the camera out. And this was at like midnight or 10 o'clock at night because we were up watching something. So I put up, so a bear just walked up onto our back porch. I never said it was that bear.

And I thought that was clear because I posted it at midnight and it was a daytime photo. So yeah. Is that bear wearing shoes? Is that bear wearing shoes? It looks like it. Alright, fine. Okay, so let me see the steak here that Trey Wingo put up because I'd like to also get some analysis on what's happening here and what kind of commentary you got when you put this stake up that actually that was from that like two days before the bear thing that was that roots chris in uh...

in uh... indianapolis we were there for the combine uh... and i thought it was a a really good-looking piece of meat uh... and uh... i was very happy about my meal and uh... people went absolutely crazy i i i think it looks a little darker than it actually was uh... because of mood lighting in a in a fine dining establishment like russ chris but it is it is kind of funny to me that that state photo

got as many reactions as it did uh... you didn't know that you were uh... you didn't know you thought you were putting something out there that would be uh... something that everyone would think is delicious and instead they just judged you? Overcooked. Yeah, oh yeah. And then two years ago in Vegas, this guy came out, I can't remember his name, this is gonna sound terrible. He's bum chillups on Twitter. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, hey, that was me that did that. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Like he felt some sort of need to apologize for what he had done.

And I was like, I really, didn't really affect me in any way, shape or form, but I appreciate you saying that. To be fair, I mean, he did say that you ordered the earth and turf and that the steak was made Pompeii style and that it looked like Don Draper's lungs and Smokey the Bear was just off camera with his head in his hands.

Yeah, again, those are good lines. It didn't affect me in any way. He said it needed lotion. I'm happy. It made him happy. I never understood why people who get, because my dad's like this, he wants his steak bloody, okay? He wants it to be rare. I want medium, medium well. And the people who get it undercooked hate the people who get it overcooked. Hey, it's my It is it is a line of demarcation in this country like there You know people people will freak out if you don't order your steak rare or or medium rare at best

I like it like you stink. I mean Stu gots. I like it a little All them steak You stink. I mean, Stugots, I like it a little more well done. I called him steak. No, I called him stinker, I think. Slayer it. Stink, steak, Stugots, it's all the ST thing that's going through my head right now. At LeBittard Show, how do you like your steak? Medium well or medium rare? Again, I will tell you again, Trey Wingo,

pregame power up is six to seven p.m. on the DraftKings network. Before you get out of here Trey I want you to pick from among these ten or so looks like from our look-likes game and tell us what you like best. Trey Wingo looks like a bird of prey. Trey Wingo looks like a statue that comes to life and speaks in a movie. Trey Wingo looks like the red-faced soccer dad who charges the ref after a loss only to flop on the ground like a fish

when accidentally being bumped by a six-year-old. Ha ha ha! Trey Wingo looks like the guy who, when you first meet him, asks what your name is, then repeats it three times correctly, then says, I got it it and says it again incorrectly. That has actually happened more than once. Trey Wingo sounds like a three count chicken wing appetizer dish at a Mexican restaurant run by white people.

Yeah, there is a place in Georgetown called Wingo's that does sell wings. So there you go. Trey Wingo looks like the guy who while at his daughter's graduation party sneaks all the other male guests to his garage to show off his 1978 Pontiac. Actually it's a 67 Mustang, but that's a separate discussion. Trey Wingo looks like the public defender who has to keep looking at his court papers to remember his client's name. Well there's so many of them and we don't get paid a lot. So, you know

We it's it's it's shooting by volume is how you do it as a public defender Nice seeing you again Trey again pregame power-up I urge you to watch what he's doing his football knowledge is unparalleled every Monday Thursday night From 6 to 7 p.m. On the DraftKings Network. Thank you Trey. You got it guys, anytime. Thank you Hal. Folks, The Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotts is sponsored by BetterHelp. What's something that you'd love to learn? As an adult, do you make time to explore the new things as often as you'd like? Or has that sense of curiosity been left behind? Kids are always learning, always growing, but as adults sometimes we lose that spark.

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CZ! Go ahead! This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! We've been talking behind the scenes here, and we haven't gotten to it yet in the month, Stugats, that we've been talking behind the scenes here and we haven't gotten to it yet in the month stugots that we've been talking about it uh... are most historic game baseball where the numbers still really matter what was that sound i don't know if they matter as much as they used to let me in the steroid guys

kind of ruin the numbers are agreed but they still do matter they matter less than they used to but the white socks are on the cusp of doing something really historic in that they are the worst team I've ever seen. And the record for being the worst team you've ever seen is held by the expansion 1962 Mets that lost 120 games. And the White Sox are in pace to be worse than them. Every time I look up, they're losing five nothing. Like it's just, it's an always thing. Their slugging percentage offensively as a team

is Zach Grenke's slugging percentage. Crazy. The pitcher Zach Grenke, the way that he he hits that's what the White Sox do as an Offense and we were talking about should we do this the way that the 1972 Dolphins every year when an undefeated when all the undefeated teams in football are gone The 72 Dolphins get together and toast champagne. We were actually looking for 1962 Mets. Oh really? To see if they would want to celebrate with us, a bunch of old guys, at a team being worse than they are. They don't want a team to be worse than they are, do they?

I mean, I think it's a distinction. They're the worst team in the history of baseball. They're about to lose that. No one's gonna remember that. Well, I'm not sure how alive any of the 1962 Mets are to celebrate some of this with us so that we can ask them whether they would enjoy it or not but can I have some imaging can you just put together real quick Chris some imaging that would allow me to celebrate the putrid Chicago White Sox and the White Sox are really bad. White Sox, White Sox, go, go, White Sox, let's go, go, go, White Sox.

Back to you, Dan. All right, excellent work, Chris, as always. A couple of White Sox stats for you, Stu Gatz. Every team in the AL Central is above 500. The division though is 43 games under 500. So every other team, every other team in the AL Central is above 500. It's a good division. Except for the White Sox who bring the division down to 43 games under 500.

In the second half of the season they are six and forty four public six it's yet it's i mean it's unfathomable uh... since july tenth okay that's two months ago the bears have won as many games in chicago as the white socks that's impossible. Yeah. I'm searching for a 62-met who is still alive. I was on the same beat.

There's only one guy who was born after 1940 on the roster. If they are still alive though, they should go out for those Tre Wingo Stakes to celebrate being the worst team every year. What's that poll gonna come back? Do most people, do more people like their Stakes medium rare than medium well? It'll come back in favor of medium rare because the people who do medium well aren't even, they're too ashamed and they'll vote for medium rare.

What about medium rare plus? What do we do with those people? What is a plus, what do you mean? It's like an extra degree. Yeah. Stugatz is so right though about the judgness right us medium. Well people I'll be with Stu gots I like a good medium well sometimes yes I'm mainly medium, but sometimes medium well, and I don't but I don't judge you medium rare people Leave us alone if you order it rare. I'm fine with it. I don't get your steak

You're eating it. I'm not splitting it with you order your steak How you want and I'll order mine how I want you order your steak how I want because I'm gonna don't get your steak. You're eating it. I'm not splitting it with you. You order your steak how you want and I'll order mine how I want. You order your steak how I want because I'm going to eat some of your steak when I'm done with my steak. That's true. I don't finish my steak a lot. But I love a porterhouse for two. There is nothing better than a porterhouse sliced up for two and I can't get it with my dad. I can't do it. He wants rare. I want medium well. We can't do it. You can't split a steak. But what you can do is try a Pittsburgh style, which is they char you outside, but the inside is rare. Delicious, yes.

You think the porterhouse is the best steak? Too fatty for me. I do. You think it's the best steak? You get filet on one side, you get strip on the other side, you take that bone home, you give it to the dog. It is wonderful. Give it to the dog.

Yes, I do. There's not going to be any meat left on that bone when I'm done with it. It's my bone. Put it to the dog. Yeah, I do. There's not gonna be any meat left on that bone when I'm done with it. It's my bone. Put it on the pole. You like the ribeye, huh? That lebitard show. Tomahawk. I mean, well, filet mignon, I think, is supposed to.

I've just not heard. You get that on the porterhouse. I have not heard a lot of people say the porterhouse is, yeah, but I'd like it to all be filet. Oh, I see. You don't like the strip, that's the problem. I would, Dan, give me the lean stuff. Oh, I'm a strip guy.

With a nice little fat on the top. I like a good palomilla. That's what, Dan, next time you and I go out for steak, I will get a Porterhouse for two. You can have the filet side. I will gladly take the strip side. You're probably thinking, why don't you just order a strip? I'd just like to put it out to the audience at LeBataar's

show, is Porterhouse the best of the steaks? And I'd like to see whether or not you're gonna get agreement on that. You just said medium well, which while I don't wanna judge you, I will say that anyone who does order medium well, probably not a steak aficionado. Like that's not somebody who, well, I think.

There's a certain way you have to order to be a steak expert. Well, what I would say to you is this. Most people I know who fancy themselves real steak eaters, they want it rarer the better. Like that's what they want. I'm not one of them. I'm not somebody who, I like mine a little more charred.

Most people who fancy themselves steak eaters need to get an identity. Put it on the poll. My whole identity is I eat steak. Okay, good for you. I know how to eat it. Exactly right, congrats. Put it on the poll identities I eat steak. Okay, good for you. I know how to eat it exactly right congrats Put it on the pole at lebatard show

Do most people who identify as steak eaters need to get a new identity? I think Billy that There are many people in our audience who are allowed to be both Steakeaters and have other portions of their identity. I think you are allowed to identify. I wasn't talking about those people. You brought them into this, not me. I love those people.

But the steak portion is the most important part of their identity. I don't believe there are anybody, I don't believe anyone listening to this would identify first and foremost as a steak eater. No, I mean, come on, it's a thing, right? And the same people with the wine, they go, how about just down the hatch and joy it

and let's move on with the rest of our lives. To be fair, Dan, you didn't meet any of the fine people at the Key West Invitational Fishing Lobster and Barbecue Contest. Those are steak people. I think there are more wine people than there are steak people who identify first and foremost as a drunk person. I thought you were a LeBron guy.

They all taste the same. I mean, give me a break. They're grapes, crushed. Jesus. I can't stand wine people, Dan. I mean, seriously. Like they know the difference between, you know... They do.

They don't. Oh, this tastes like leather. Like what are you eating leather for? Like what are we doing here? Our leather. They're shifting around in their glass. Just drink the wine from crying out loud. Aren't all blank people annoying? Like if you're just, if you're so into something

that we call you blank people. Not all people. Like it's like motorcycle guy or music guy. Any people that are just too into something, you're annoying. Whoa. Except if you're really into our show and then you're great. I'm perfectly careful right now. I feel really safe where I'm at.

When you're too into something that's not very important, that's what you're saying. Coffee guy. Coffee people. You're saying steak's not important? Coffee is very important. No, steak is important, coffee's important. It's not important enough to be an expert on it. Hey, video game guy, no one gives a shit what your chair is, okay?

Doesn't matter all these things if you're too into something you're annoying fantasy football guys fantasy Gino super annoying All he talks about these you just tell me about his waiver wire. I don't care Gino Stu got your ignorant. I am NOT a wine person, okay, but your ignorance on dismissing wine people as not knowing the differences between wines because you don't know the differences between wines. Put it in a glass, I'll drink it. Exactly, down the hatch.

I said it once, I'll say it again. You need a glass? That's it. Scob. I'll drink it out of a bottle. Glass to cup. Oh, Manischewitz. But you waving around your ignorance

in the face of the wine people who would look at you and say, hey, football guy, you care a little too much about football. You get a little too much of your identity around football. Football guys are good. Football guys are fine. Thank you. That's the one group.

Wine people are making it up, right? We can agree on that. Like when you go and you're like, oh, what is it like? Well, what essence do you take? Just tell me what's in it. Like this is, it's a fact. What is in it?

Tell me like, well, what note do you find? It's like, just tell me what's in this wine. It's not up to me. I'm asking you the question. Just, they don't know. They don't know what's in there. It's like Art Guy who sees something that no one else sees.

Oh my God. Art Guy. Get me that 3D art that you just stare at you across your eyes and then boom, 3D image right in the middle of it. You know what I mean? That's the only art we need. Since that and Where's Waldo. That was fun.

Where's Waldo? There you go. Start of the major league season on March 28th, the White Sox have 10 more wins than the Boston Celtics. What? 10. They last won back to back games June 27th through June 29th. The things that have happened since then, the Panthers, Florida Panthers had a parade.

The Olympics and Paralympics took place in Paris. The new NCAA video game was released. How about baseball people just shut up? Just shut up already. Baseball time. The numbers mean something. The 1962 Mets. Speaking of the 1962 Mets, Craig Anderson and Jay Hook are both the only surviving members of the 1962 Mets.

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but it might have to be, it will be a black people's meeting, an important one that will be called the next day, where we might have to put some things on the agenda and get it off the table. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGats. Hey, what's up, StuGats? Oh, football.

I know you're not sitting in on a pseudo-political discussion, this is not the StuGats I know. I mean, I thought we were talking lions that's what i thought was some of the back to the forty nine is running a movie five i will okay that has a surety will jimel hill is a metal arc uh... advisor and we're always happy to have her around here we're gonna get to some things with her in a second i will tell everybody that Generation CFB

is coming up in moments here. Jessica and Lucy will do a better job of handling college football than we have throughout this week. Yeah, and have no fear. We talked a lot of Maction. We talked a lot of maybe some big losses in the Big Ten this week.

Wow. So stay tuned for all of our hot takes from this last week. It is coming up in moments. Also, Stug, I saw this ESPN sent out its press releases on all the great numbers that football did. The Manning cast was not included though because the Manning cast had worse numbers than it's ever had. Wow. Even though Bill Belichick is a part of what it is that they're doing now. It's still 827,000 people as a secondary viewing experience, but it was not a part of the ESPN press release conspicuously.

Florio's pointing that out, and now we have our reason for why. Jamal, the Dolphins were the center of everything this weekend because you don't often get Schefflered on the way to the stadium. A lot of people are talking now as they take sides about all the things Tyreke Hill did wrong at the beginning of that

interaction and I'm just sad I guess more than anything that all a group of people can see the same thing there and just immediately take sides as if it doesn't matter that we all have different life experiences and somebody was clearly wronged there and it doesn't feel like it was necessarily the police officers.

We will, this is how the conversation always goes when we bring up these kinds of incidents, police brutality, state-sanctioned violence, is that because we have been conditioned so long in this country to believe that black bodies frankly are not worth as much as anybody else's body and that they deserve to be dehumanized and that generally speaking when it comes to interacting with the police is that if black people are not overly deferential to the position of authority then we deserve whatever we get. Now, my thing is this, is that it is not a crime

to have an attitude with a police officer because you get pulled over for speeding. A lot of us have an attitude when we get pulled over by the police, particularly if you're in Tyreek Hill's case, when you're on your way to your job and you risk maybe running late. And so we seem to think that in those situations, at least when it comes to

black people, because I've seen white people act a fool on the police and they have managed to keep themselves perfectly restrained and act perfectly professional. But when it comes to us, all of the humanity always goes out the window. And that is the unfortunate part Sometimes about being black in America is that our humanity is always conditional You wrote on Twitter yesterday of this debate around Tyreek There are some parallels between how this issue is discussed and how we discuss women and sexual assault What do you mean by that?

So when you think about the conversations we often have about sexual assault the majority of the conversation is centered on how women need to protect themselves from being raped or sexually assault the burden of responsibility falls on us in terms of what we wear what we look like where we are how much we drink everything is about us at some point i would love to see that conversation shift to actual perpetrators, actual predators,

considering that most women are sexually assaulted by someone they know. So I often say this. It tends to bother a lot of men folk when I do. Instead of teaching women how not to be raped, we need to start teaching boys and men and predators not to rape people. Being drunk is not an excuse

that that should mean you're sexually violated because people are around people who are drunk all the time but the only one who are in danger of being sexually violated tends to be women. So is that the fault of women or is that the fault of the people who think that it's okay to sexually violate somebody based off how much they were drinking? And so I find these conversations to be very similar when it comes to this particular issue, is that then the focus is not about how police officers are actually the paid professional ones in this interaction. They are paid to interact with the public.

They are paid to protect and serve, but all the conversation is about the behavior of the black people and their interaction with police. We have seen black people get their head blown off when complying with the police. We just saw one, a national incident recently with Sonia Massey. In her own home, she was murdered by the police.

And the first thing she said to them when it came to her house is, please don't kill me. And that's exactly what wound up happening. And so we have seen black people comply. We have seen them, quote, not comply or not be, you know, the most respectful with the police. And the outcome has been the same. So instead of spending all this energy, talk about what Black people need to do

to better interactions with the police, we need to spend more time talking about why the police have this inherent seeming fear of black people to the point that all Ration and all humanity goes out the window when they're dealing with us You're talking about victim blaming there and Tyreek Hill Understandably in a lot of other instances makes for a very bad victim when the messaging yesterday is the following Jamal and I don't know that these two things can coexist, Drew Rosenhouse came on here and said that Tyreke

was very interested in making this something that is a moment of unity in reaching out to the police, but then also both he and his agent called for the firing of police. And if they wanted to actually deescalate all of it tyreek hill could by saying i'm not going to do any more with this i'm going to stand down you can have those is the two messages though it can't be that he wants to are have this

uh... simmered down and also call for the firing of the police which is entitled to do yeah i mean i i mean listen i'm not here to call for anybody's job i'll i'll let the team municipalities in miami date handle that but i will say this is that you can have unity without accountability and often what is missing in these equations is the accountability i also angle i'm not glad that this happened to tiree keel i'm glad we're

having this discourse because this is another reason why when Colin Kaepernick engaged in his peaceful protest in 2016, why more players should have stood firm and supported him. This is exactly why, because this is what he was talking about. And I think in a lot of those instances, what we saw in the wake of that is that we saw some players

who did protest. And then we saw them meeting with the police and having these community meetings. And I'm not saying that it's not on some level beneficial to have a conversation with the police, but the conversation that the police often don't want to have is about accountability. See, they don't wanna have a conversation

about qualified immunity. They't want to have a conversation about qualified immunity. They don't want to have a conversation about how so many officers who commit these egregious kind of misconduct acts, why they wind up getting hired by other police departments. See, that's the conversation they're not ready to have. So until they're really ready to have an accountability conversation,

it's going to be tough to have the immunity. Jamel, how about Tariq's accountability in this particular situation? Like what could he have done differently so it did not escalate to the point where it did? Nothing, that is my answer. He did everything right? Because it's not about right or wrong, Stu guys,

it's about the fact that, again, the professionals in this situation are the police. And it is not a crime to be testy with the police, it is not a crime to be testing with the police. It's not a crime to have an attitude. And so what I'm saying is that however people think he behaved and whatever people think about how he behaved, did it rise to the level of him being drug out of his car,

slammed to the asphalt, with a knee in his back and with another officer kicking him? Did it deserve that is what the question is. And so we find in so many of these incidents, and we've seen so many now at this point, where there are so many, where the slightest little thing becomes an escalation. See in this case, the person who should be in charge of de-escalating is not the

person pulled over. It is the police because that's their job, not Tyreek Hill's. What do you think is going to happen here going forward? What always happens? Nothing. I mean, I hate to say that I've reached this point of pessimism. I'm sure there'll be some level of accountability for the officers involved. We see one was already placed on administrative duty for his conduct because there was clearly one officer who seemed to be very held back on turning this situation into something that could have been potentially deadly. But you know, we have at this point, I don't know what else people need to see. I don't know how many more videos we need to have go viral on social media, because it always comes back to the same point, which is accountability. Now, as you all remember

in 2020, there was the Democrats and Republicans tried to come together and create the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. That bill went absolutely nowhere. And a lot of reasons why it didn't go anywhere because at the end of the day, the police unions are very powerful. A lot of politicians do not want to appear as if they're standing in opposition of the police.

And most of what black and brown people are asking for is just don't murder us. That's it. I mean, I don't know if that's a difficult message to grasp, but like don't murder unarmed people, have some sense of control and professionalism and there should be some level of accountability that is higher than what we often see in law enforcement. Those are the things that are on the table. And so until we can have some real progress in those areas, I anticipate that we will be in this inertia

of a conversation for a very long time. I want to play a couple of clips for you and have you select which one is the clearer, more coherent explanation. The first is from last night's debate. Yes or no you still do not have a plan. I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now but if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive and there are concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll

be hearing about it in the not too distant future or this right here from succession Gregory Hirsch executive assistant to Tom Wamsgans correct yes yes if it is to be said I'm sorry if it is to be said so it'm sorry. If it is to be said, so it be so it is. You can speak to us normally. Thank you, sir. So I shall. So I shall. That's a tough one, Dan. But ultimately, it boils down to one is fictional, one is not running for president, and the other one actually is running for president. I mean, you know that look that Kamala Harris had on her face?

That's the look of a lot of women that we have experienced when you are in a professional situation and you are more qualified than the person that you are maybe in a competitive situation with. I'm more qualified than the person that is that you are, you know, maybe in a competitive situation with like I'm more qualified. I'm making a whole lot more sense. And yet here is this person here who is so unfit and so unqualified. And I'm forced to actually take this person seriously. Like, honestly, my biggest takeaway from that debate was that debate was

was beneath Kamala Harris. It really was. It's just I had concepts of a plan. You know, Trump was that kid that came to the front of the class when the project was doing. He had nothing but a blank sheet and he just go. It just it would be funny if it wasn't serious. And the serious fact is that you will have millions and millions of people voting for somebody whose best answer after running for president what the last decade is i have

concepts of a player let's let's play a fill in the blank for me here on what it is that she really wanted to say because i thought this was purposeful and i want to know uh... what you fill in this blank with this former president. That pause, that pause right there. Like what was she thinking of saying that she would have said in private

that she realized she could not say in public? Well, when I interviewed Vice President Harris, when she was running for president back in, I believe this was either 2019 or 2020. I asked her her favorite curse word, and she said. And she said, and she said, and she said,

and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said,

and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, That's what she wanted to say to you. That's right. That is what she wanted to say. It's her favorite cuss word.

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