The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Stupid Casual

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

A Zapruder level analysis of the Stugotz photo with The Golics and Justin Tuck. Thursday Thunder rumbles right into this week's poll update, which reveals the secret to Chris Cote's marriage. Then Payne Lindsey joins the show to break down the testimony of a former Air Force intelligence officer claiming the U.S. government has recovered non-human "biologics" from alleged UFO crash sites. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the StugatSpotCas. I have just received some important feedback. I am terrible at counting down from 5th. Chris Cody, executive producer of the show, has waited until the last day of my, well, almost last day of my week. Cat kettle situation here. I was counting 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Hello, I'm Pablo Torrey, and I've been told that this infuriates everybody, but I'm only now finding out about this. They didn't know how to break it to you. Yeah, good producer. Video side hates you. Chris Johnson. He has the feeling of mutual. Wow!

Oh no! I have been asking, they said they're not gonna give you this to God's picture. I've been asking for this to God's picture the entire show. We did a whole segment about prom photos and it was my attempt to set up this one photo. It was a long segue to the one thing I had today that I wanted to talk about at Cherish change this photo. That Cherish to the love of God. Lewis put up the God damn photo.

Please. There it is. Thank you. So this is to God's yesterday, New York City big draft Kings event. God bless football I'm he's in and you two comms last levitator and friends go see the work our excellent video team puts out regularly on command without delay But for those who cannot see this in the podcast audience How would you describe what we're looking at? I just can't stop looking at golex senior. That's all I see

You you said in the break, Chris, that he has sexy old man hands. He's no, he's developing them. Look at that right hand. I don't know. The placement or you talk about the way that looks just the way he's left to right. What we have is on the left, Justin Tuck, hand over hand in front of his crotch. Look at that. Very neutral. That's what I call the soccer wall stance. Probably could have left crotch out of the description, but although if he were really in a soccer wall, he'd put his hands behind his back. Oh, yeah, that's true. And then you got a cheese in Gojo, Michael Ex Jr. It was just great smile. Looking good. He's he, he, he's gone full bald, which is

something I'm thinking about. Gojo is flourishing. Yeah. My man, Michael, Jr. is flourishing. Yeah, my man my golech junior is flourishing. He is thrilled. He is happy He is organically Enthusiastic about this event. I put all players the only athlete to look better in retirement than they do when they're all linemen dude Absolutely like the body transformation of an all-in-men like our friend my golech junior. Yeah is unlike anything else and so too is the case with Mike Goliak Jr. What's the worst sport? I will get back to this photo,

but I like this game that means bringing us to, what's the worst at baseball, right? Baseball guys, if we just saw Scott Roll, I think that back. How Rowan doesn't look at? I think that back. Because baseball guys that look bad in retirement, usually already had some heft to them before, like when they were active basketball

player. You know, basketball players aged terribly, like some of them do. Some of them look great. Some of them look fine. And then some of them like, oh my god, especially like the weight gain. Well, because you remember them being nimble ballerinas. I mean, yes, because they're dancing on the court. They're age, I'll they're doing all this stuff. I said age, I like David Annembrole. They're age, I'll they're doing all this

stuff. But Chris Cody is helping. I think you literally what he saw. What do you see? What he's got rolling? It's not that bad. Oh, so then why did you make that? You know, it looks like great. Fun doing. Now he feels bad about it because you guys are age, shame. You know, who looks great, the crime he feels bad about it because you guys are age shame. You know, it looks great. The crime dog. Friend of griff. It looks good.

That's a guy you knew he was never going to. I think a lot of people are making fun of stugots in this photo because of how short he is. Staying next to three former professional football players. That's right. But I don't think his height is the problem. I think it's those baggy, untucked shirt and the fact that he's in proximity to Mike Goliath's senior. Yeah. We have to describe Stugat's before we delve into what Mike Goliath's senior is glowing up like. I'm with Jess though. I think that if Stugat's has this shirt tucked in here,

we say he looks great. So, Stugat's on the right side of this photo. He has Mike Goliath's juniors arm around his shoulder and Stugat's has a couple of things that are conspicuous to observe. Number one, Stugots shaved. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. This is picture day Stugots. This is from photos to gots. There is no hat.

It's product. Not only that, there is product to me. Yeah, product to me. He has a combed over hairstyle. I just can't look at him because I can't stop looking at Goliath Senior. Like, I know you want me to focus on Stugots right now, but I just can't look at him because I can't stop looking at Golek's senior. Like I know you want me to focus on Stugots right now, but I just can't.

The button down shirt that Stugots is wearing would be the lead of this story, if not for the fact that one body, one Golek away, is another Golek who looks like a movie star. I'm about to be kidding. He's mastered the stance, right? Yes, one hand in the pocket. That's not like a casual thing.

Veteran savvy. That's veteran savvy. But even the hand outside of the pocket. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Great old man hand. But I'm telling you, he's, he's, he's, I don't know. You need to describe Roy Acme. I don't know what that means.

Roy Acme in his hands. I've never, I just, I don't, all I can say is say other people that have this one. What are the characters as a vanie? I have, you have this. We're all whispering over here. It's the vanie. It's for sure. I don't want a vanie-less hand for sure. You want a varicose hand.

Right. Okay. Not a gun would be dead. How about, it has to have a nice like tan to it. It can't be up to my hands way too pale. Got you. What about hair? Because it looks like he's got a little bit of hair there.

Right. I'm not noticing the hair. A little looks like he's got a little bit of hair there. Right? I'm not noticing the hair. A little bit of fur. A little bit of fur right here on the forearm. And then the other thing is the skin looks weathered. You like that weathered? You gotta have that old, that's the old, that lived in, the old man's lived in.

Yes, like suede. You don't want suede. But you can't know how to use tools. Yes. Oh my god. Like it don't want to moisturize too much. It's velvety. The perfect balance of like you want to moisturize everyone's a lot, but oh my god. It don't want to moisturize too much. It's velvety. The perfect balance of like you want to moisturize everyone's a while, but not a big.

It's rugged. Yeah, rugged, that's a worth it. Rugged in Vainey. Weathered, velvety, no, rugged, Vainey. That's how it like my hands. It looks like he worked in a vineyard. That's the vibe of getting a vineyard. Yeah, I feel like he worked there.

I feel like I could see him in a REI commercial taking a tent out of a backpack, but it's a very nice tent. I wanna go back to what Lucy said. I can see him walking through his vineyard. He didn't work at the vineyard. He owns the vineyard. Oh wow.

He stopped at a random one and like picks a grape and tastes it and like, okay, wearing that outfit exactly the same. Wait, tucked in the little flops. I mean, do you guys have? Do you guys have? Do you guys, hey, where in that outfit exactly this is tucked in the book? I mean, do you guys have Napa Valley? Do you guys, I was going to ask, do you guys have Mike Gullick senior with an accent?

Is this vineyard, is he now European? No, is this Napa, is this Tuscany, is this Greece? I have him. The tan indicates that he has a Mediterranean flare, guys. Well, I'm going to take him back to the old country and call him Mike Goliche. That's what he looks like. Look at that picture of there one more time. Let's take a look at Mike Goliche.

Mike Goliche. Yeah, there he is. It looks like he's gone pescatarian. Really? For sure. For you. Look at the guy like that. He's like, yeah, I just fish.

That's it. Yeah. I only eat what I catch. That's the best thing. Everything only eat what I catch. That's the thing. Everything about him is perfectly proportioned now. His shirt, the pants fit beautifully. The roll, the puff. Look at the tongue.

I wish we could put up a picture of what he looked like at the start of Mike and Mike. I could, yes. Tuck my shirt. Lewis, a hundred times. I could never get a tuck as perfect as that, right? Where it's not like completely shoved in, but it's also not like a muffin top where it's overflowing.

I mean, perfect tuck. And don't sleep on the buttons that are unbuttoned. Oh, how many buttons? How many buttons? That's it, that's two. That's two. That's two. Just your gots as one.

Stugots and Mike Goliath Jr. And Justin Tuck, all too nervous for the second Unbutton button I'm being told that the mandate for the dress code was smart casual Sad I love do gots I take it back I love Stu Gotts. I take it back. Stu Gotts is on. Good to zoom.

It's just too big of a shirt. It's the untucked shirt. It's too big and it's too untucked. And it's in the back. It's not too big. It's not hold on. Man, I know this isn't great for camera work, but I want to just point. No, no, keep the picture up, please.

I want to point right there. You see, count the buttons down from the mic. One, two, three, four. That shirt's not too big. That's his belly pushing up against the shirt like a hot air balloon that is filled with hot air. Yes. Yes. Yes. Like he's not wearing a shirt that's too big. That's the only shirt he can wear where the buttons aren't fighting for their life just to keep everything together. Can you guys tell me if Stugat is smizing? Is this a smize?

A smize. Because it's his eyes are trying to do the smiling. His mouth is... He's just smiling. His mouth is frozen in like this. What is it, a rictus? What is it called when your face is just frozen in a way that is...

Rigor mortis? There's a little Rigor mortis in his mouth. It is a mouth. Yeah. Um, a rictus is the his mouth. In his mouth. Yeah. Um, yeah. Rictus is the correct term. I think he's, he's, by the way, have we lost the high flutin' sound?

Because Pablo's been on one this time. Thank God. I'm like, Jesus Christ. Um, yeah, I'm looking at his face here. I think it's almost like he didn't want a smile, but then the last minute he realized what an amazing scene he's in. He's a smug smile.

He feels very smug. He got to finagle a trip to New York paid for by draft kings. He got to do a show with the goleques and Justin Tuck giving him so much clout and he didn't have to be in work that day. I assume there's a dead and company show somewhere in the Northeast this weekend and he's gotten it all expensive and paid for. He's very smug right now. And all it is on the heels of that awful announce and article.

Did he? Here's a question. Do you think afterwards he located the Verizon person and try to finagle like free service for his family? Free Fios or something, right? Like a high speed internet something, anything. The person who could get anything they wanted is my golech senior. If that man came up from me, dude, it's his head being cocked in one direction. It's just the tilt. It really sucks being on a sports show with someone 10 times more attractive than you every

week. I would love to be in a prom photo. Can someone send me this photo? With my golech senior. I just wanted to hold me for my own personal use. We're just in talk. We haven't given him any. Oh, yeah, he was there too.

Don Lebertard. Cody decides to give his opinions on things. Right when we're coming back, he started yammering about, don't you hate the phrase controlling your own destiny? Destiny can't be controlled. Right. An oxymoron. Stugats.

I fully thought you were going to go in with tape the oxy out of it. That's what you are. I did say it. I'm saying that's what you can't. Oh, I see. Okay. I love you. You didn't say I love you back.

You're mad at me. Put it on the polkae, Armadus. Stugats throw it. I love you. It's only to get. I love you. Greg two gods throw it. I love you. It's only to get I love you. That's great. I love you. I love you.

Okay. Feel better now. VCC down. Libertar show with this two gods. Oh my god. It's Thursday Thunder! And Thursday Thunder is brought to you by our friends at Draft King Sportsbook. You can follow our parlay on the Draft King's Sportsbook app.

How do we feel about this week's parlay, Jess? Pretty good about my leg, Chris Cody. I'm going with the New York Liberty over the Atlanta Dream tonight. Sorry Renee. And Haley Jones, who was on Montgomery and Company this week. But the Liberty are going to continue the reign of terror. They want a close one against the storm the other night. And I think they're going to win again against the dream.

Over to Roy. Thanks. We got the Cleveland Guardians in the Chicago White socks tonight. I am going with the Guardians. And Roy did not just pick a team here. There's some serious deep diving going on. He's not gonna tell you any of the stuff he found, but what he found is the reason he's going with Who Roy? The Cleveland Guardians. Tana Beebe is pitching for the Guardians 90s face the leading ceases Lucy who do you have women's world cup tonight?

Argentina South Africa the winner will win their first ever will world cup match the loser goes home Argentina should have made it out against the Italy match with the draw So I'm taking the Argentina money line. I hate lightning That's not lightning. Do you guys, whatever? That's thunder. Do you guys have a fear of it? Like I do though. Like I know no one likes it. Like there's no one in here that's like, oh, I've got a dog that's afraid of the storm. I love thunderstorms.

I love thunderstorms. Mike Ryan's story scared the shit out of me earlier this week. Oh yeah, I like it. I think playing gut hit by lightning and he almost died. And he decided to tweet about it. I think I think my dog, I think I'm affecting my daughter negatively. I think my daughter's going to be afraid of lightning because of the way I act when it's like a storm

and me and her in the car and I'm like, all right, let's go get by the door. We're about to go. And then we run real fast and I try to, I hate it. Like when it's like, you know, you're like getting wet or you're afraid you're gonna get stuck in the rain. Not just when it's raining,

but when you're in one of those things where it's like every 10 seconds, we get these down here in South Florida once a week where it's like, you just feel it, you can see it everywhere and it's just, there's nothing more terrifying. Our storms are the scariest. When there's like 50 feet, I need to go

and it's like, I don't wanna go right now. I'm terrified of lightning and it's just, anyone have an opposite take of that? Who's a big lightning guy? You big lightning guy? I don't mind it. Really like, you don't get scared? No, it's cool.

I like storm watching actually. Do you guys ever go on the Lightning, it's cool. I like storm watching, actually. Do you guys ever go on the Lightning Map website when there's a lightning storm? I didn't know that. I didn't just. Google LightningMaps.org, I think it is. And you can see exactly where the lightning strikes are. And it'll be brightred.

And you'll see it kind of like these wave forms come out of it for the most recent ones. And then they fade as the time goes on. You could see all of the lightning storms. Is that where they found Drupurys, but down in Central America? Oh, I forgot about that scandal. How many different things do you have like that they attract?

Because I know you do planes. A lot of stuff. You track planes. I love Doppler radar. Doppler. Like, oh my god. The Doppler effect. The iPhone weather app has really,

really, the Doppler of the French, in my weather tracking, because they bought Dark Sky. Big Wazertruck. Oh, Dark Sky got bought by Apple. Yeah, and Dark Sky was the best. It was the best.

You got to see the weather fronts, the map actually update. You could see the cloud coverage for your area. It was incredible. And it was so so accurate and now it's gone. I'm sorry, the only thing I use the weather app for is like, what's the temperature right now? That's it. Like, I can't even be bothered.

Other than when it's really hot and I see it's going to be really hot for the next week or so, which it's been for a month in Arizona, I'll sometimes screenshot it and I'll have some funny pun music underneath about how hot it is. That's like going to a restaurant and ordering chicken tenders every time. There's a whole other world out there waiting to be explored. There's nothing wrong with prioritizing chicken tenders. To recap, what is our parlay? Oh yeah.

The Liberty. The Guardians. Argentina. Thursday Thunder ends right now. Oh, thunder ends right now. Oh, okay. And now we move on to the poll. This week's polls are brought to you by our friends at Dollar Shave Club. Epic razors, epically affordable, find them in stores or online. I'm going to update some polls. What do you guys think?

It's true. I think you should. Thank God. Does standing next to Goliak in a picture make you look less attractive than you usually do? I mean, this should be 100%. Is it not 100%. What are 25% of these people think? It's only 75% yes.

You 25% are monsters. There is nobody I would take before Mike Goliak senior in a snake draft of most handsome, most beautiful people in sports media. Snake draft. You're not wrong. Next poll. Do you hate Duke University? That's another 100%. Similar percentage, 74%. Say yes. What likes Duke? Duke fans. I guess. We must have a few. But even deep down. They want some load to be no.

I mean, yes, they hate. That's true. At the kink, is stew gots okay? Another 100% or? These poll questions have been so easy this. The most life we finally have are the most lopsided one of the day. 88% say no.

12% think he's doing okay? Name one thing that indicates that stew gots is okay. That smug look on his face. And those are the polls. Good polls. All in it. You got the polls, sub-nation. Do the polls.

Let that sit there. You got the horns when they hit the button. Do I? No, don't. Do I? Right now we're looking, if you guys look up, we're looking at a Mike and Mike early days. My God, the founder.

Oh, wow. What is it? Is it the baby face? Look, I just want to pitch those cheeks. Come here. It is like almost childish, right? Like the way he looks, he looks like a child. It's adorable.

That's the word that comes to mind. And that grew up to be like, he has that kid from Stranger Things vibe, just like those cheeks. That gives me hope that I can, I can look like, I can look like, I can look like, go look senior someday now, it gives me hope. I'm not saying I look like this. You know what?

He's like, way jacked more jack than I, like, I'm just saying, like, that gives me hope. The fact that he wants, looks like that. And now he looks like he does now, gives me hope. It looks like the big kid on that cartoon recess. Look, it's not the same person, man. I'm gonna tell you what, Chris, if you have that kind of like percentage weight loss like him, you know, you look like like Bill Burr. Oh, wow. I could see Chris being like a billbirds shaved head beard going.

So that's the Chris. That's not loving. So you're saying like that's cop. Bill Burr is like, look man, yeah, yeah, on a red head man. Yeah, I work. Well, the hair color of Michael X senior, the salt and pepper, like he's leaning in, it's not just that he looks like he works on a vineyard that he owns, is that he's not afraid of showing you how long he has been on this planet wandering.

I don't understand people who feel the need to die there. Like I would gladly go full, full, shacks of Doc Brown white hair. If you gave me my hairline back from when I was like 21 years ago, you would go Cornell West. Oh, easily. Oh, god. Easily.

I feel like Conan O'Brien's my ceiling. No, come on. No, we're up for a series. Are you googling famous, gender? Prince Harry. Just another pair. There's my ceiling. Let me see. Prince Harry. He's a cutie pie. He's a real cute guy. Yeah, that's because it's got to be some unbolved. You need a boy, a ball ginger. Why? Well, well, I could, I could have things done. He's a famous ginger. So number three is Julian Moore.

Yeah, you know, for his Harry, I'll give it to you. You know what? Ron Howard's number five. No, no, Ron Howard is a no. Ah, the DaVinci code. Something's wrong. If you're happy days, days are not happy at all. If you go Ron Howard,

Ron, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, three. Something to aspire. Oh, the guy from Harry Potter, I could be Ron Weasley. two America's on that. Something to aspire to. Oh, the guy from Harry Potter, I could be. Oh, Ron Weasley. Rupert Grin. My wife had a thing for, I think that's why I'm with my wife. Okay, wait, Sui for best revelation.

Oh crap. She was a big Harry Potter guy and she, yeah, she was like, Harry Potter guy. He was a big Ron Weasley guy. No, we all though. No. I think a big Ron Weasley guy. Now we all know. No. I think a lot of people liked Ron.

He wasn't like, it wasn't like a trendy. It wasn't though. You know what I need. I don't like how you said no so aggressively. Yeah, I didn't either. I, that's why I immediately dropped on the line. I do not know that. I'm sorry, Chris.

He was a fanfade. Sorry, Ron. I mean, it's not me or a fan thing. He went after him. Expelli-Avaz. Spelli-Armas. Armas. The Rupert Grint get paid more than Emma Watson. Sorry Ron. I mean, it's not me or a friend. You went through expel. Yeah, it was Spellie armus armus Rupert Grint get paid more than Emma Watson I love like the suggested questions from Google because they give me questions that I never thought of I never even considered for a second

Auto-complete in Google search is a dangerous game Grint Sower is also the exact same as his Harry Potter coaster Emma Watson who also made 70 million dollars from all eight Harry Potter movies that got paid $70 million. It seems low, right? We're wrong. Freaking weasley for eight movies. 70 million.

They were like the titular characters. Well, no, they were. They were. How much of Daniel Radney? I don't know, but like, just for inflation. Nine million a picture. It seems like it should be more. Yeah, I get out of here.

No, where she going? Yeah, where is she going? Hold her to get out of here. Yeah, get out of here with this. Get out of this conversation. Go, go, go think about things. I'm thinking about it. I'm trying, I'm trying to decide if I have.

You're saying that Emma Watson, like Aaron Rogers, should have taken a voluntary pay cut to let the rest of the Harry Potter franchise afford bigger salaries for the rest of this. I was saying, I was not what I thought he was saying. I was saying Ron Weasley making nine million. Ron Weasley, I'm like, relax. I'm not, you know, he's not Aaron Rogers. Sorry.

You know what he is? He's, uh, uh, uh, uh, what's my man that had to take minimum and a bowl bowl. That's what he is He should be bowl bowl. Should be just happy to be in the league Not the only person I haven't seen any of these movies. I haven't seen them either. Okay. There you go That actually explains that I've tried I've tried to watch Harry at multiple Harry Potter movies Guys, one, one, one, one, one, one. I can't get 15 minutes in without falling asleep. It's just so incredibly boring.

They have not aged great. I think that's why they're now talking about making a television series out of them. Oh, no. Because the movies themselves as standalone films, and people are going to come after me for this, they do not hold up the way that a lot of other films from that era have held up.

I just a standalone film. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. Even when I watched it in the, I went to the first Harry Potter, I was like, yo, this is a worldwide phenomenon. I can't wait. I sat there 50 minutes in the theater. Knocked out.

Orring. Just. I think people watched it though because they read the books and love the characters. Not because they're like, this is a work of art. Jurassic Park thought we'd never read the book before watching the movie. Never again. Jurassic Park does tell you a lot about dinosaurs that the movie has to misrepresent. That's why I cook.

I cook. I can write. Yep, that's why I don't read books before I watch the movie. Because you don't want to know that the Velociraptor is actually like knee high. Yeah, it's just like it like I would say. I do that because I's the same reason. I was expecting all this great stuff and it was so overwhelming and everyone was like, but this is such a great movie I'm like, no, it's not. And I realized it's because the book warped my expectations and I didn't

want that ever again. I can relate. You don't read anymore either. Blake Griffin. I can relate you don't read anymore either like Griffin That could be a ceiling for me Don Lebatard Chris Cody does an impression just be careful dangerous game Yeah, I don't want to play this game. I could do such a great. Oh, I don't want to play this game He's like man, I This is who we're gonna trust me. Let's let him mean do it. I think I think you could do it Chris Cuz you did a great Charles Barkley your one for one there. No one just hear the segment We just did with the mean we cannot be taking judgment is not the best from the local drunk on whether or not

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claims, I would say that they are mind-boggling claims, that called to the stand testimony from witnesses that included former military pilots and a guy named Dave Grush. David Grush, a former intelligence official, turned whistleblower who said this particular thing when asked under oath, mind you, if the US government had found the bodies of alien pilots from a crashed UFO. If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?

As I've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human, and that was the assessment of people which wreck knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. So the Pentagon, I should say fully denies this claim,

but we bring in pain Lindsay to help us understand what the f*** we just watched. And pain, crazy shit. Pain, you host a popular show called High Strange. It about alien encounters it's basically like you know the X files but a podcast and so now that we're dealing with your territory here man like you were at this hearing were you not you were there you were in Congress yesterday while we were on air take us inside of that scene well I heard was going to be on your guys show and it was like eight o'clock last night,

and I'm like, can I make it to DC in time? And we just hauled ass out there. And first time ever going to anything like this in my life, but it was really packed. It was so packed that they had an entire overflow room for other journalists and the public and attended and just hearing them say these kinds of things in a serious setting like that was really kind of just bizarre and surreal and it felt like it was potentially a very historic moment like in 20 years we'll look back at this is maybe the opening of the floodgates of a lot more information. So I have no idea if that guy we just listened to is credible. If he's a cook, I have no idea, but I just want to start with the most surreal, bizarre claim

that you heard now put into the congressional record yesterday. I mean, I think the biggest one is that for decades now, I mean, according to David Grush, for decades, there's been a sector of the U.S. government that has been operating a crash retrieval program. So basically, in layman's terms, you oppose alien spacecraft would crash on Earth. They would confiscate these things and study them behind closed doors and try to reverse engineer them. And with some of those crashes, there were actual alien cadavers, alien bodies, non-humans, not from earth. The science fiction version of

what you think this should really is. I'm kind of at a loss for words to ask them about have these biologics ever, these not human biologics, they have they ever hurt or attack someone and he kind of responded somewhat in the affirmative. Not quite like he's seen people hurt. And so I guess my Christian New Pain is, how is that not a bigger takeaway that not only are there apparently aliens

but that they're hostile as well. I mean, you could probably look at that more than one way. I kind of took it as if people are, you know, working on these crafts, I'm sure people pressed the wrong button and something blew up one time. Or there were interactions with certain aspects of a craft that would hurt and harm a human body, not necessarily, you know, a laser beam just killing a rando guy in the military. I think it's more like accidents because whatever they're using, whatever they are, it could be harmful potentially if you're up close to it and we're not used to it. Payne, I should be very transparent with you

as you're talking, explaining this, as we're listening to David Grush talk about this. Chris Cody's cook meter is just, it's, it's, it's really being real loud. It's not like a Murphy scared of it. Yeah. I mean, the question that I'm dealing with is that, okay, number one, David Grush, that, that witness, what does he have? How legit is that, okay, number one, David Grush, that witness, what does he have? How legit is that? But then this is other video I want to play that I want Chris Cody's cook meter to respond

to because there is a Navy commander, right, Paine, a Navy commander who claimed on Wednesday that he and three other military pilots spotted, quote, a small white tic-tac-shaped object hovering below their jets above the Pacific. And he testified that this object had below their jets above the Pacific. And he testified that this object had no wings. It approached his jet, it vanished, it appeared seconds later, 60 miles away. Like, can we get the video of Ryan Graves, the pilot who then added this? How do you know that these were not our aircraft?

Some of the behaviors that we saw in a working area, we would see these of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work.

So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work.

So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, we have a lot of things to do with the work. So, 1.2 Mach, they would do so in very erratic and quick behaviors that I don't have an explanation for. So, Payne, why should we believe these guys? I struggled to find the motivation for why they'd be making it up. I think that no matter what they saw, whatever it was, it spooked them. And these are the guys who fly the F-18s. These are the guys who know all the shit. So if they're spooked by it, then that should say something to us.

And I think that's why I find them more credible than not. I mean, you talked to pilots, yes, like in your capacity as, yeah, talk to Ryan Gray, it's actually before. Yeah. So how do they get when they want to say this stuff? What's the response internally, right? Like why are we only really getting this out in in full color now in Congress? What's it like behind the scenes as he's explained it to you? So to be honest, you know, if he was just some grifter guy who wanted to, you know, get famous for some pretend UFO story.

He would be acting differently. He was actually a really hard get. He was not foaming at the mouth to tell me anything. He was very concerned about this being more scientific than anything else. He's not trying to do all the hokey stuff. He doesn't want it to be some trope of a sci-fi story that it's always been. He wants to really break that stigma and, you know, base off his own personal experiences. And all of his, you know, former friends and the Navy as well. It's been like, you know,

for a long time, these guys have seen this stuff and they haven't had a way to report on it or do anything about it. So, I mean, what are you thinking as a guy who has seen many, many movies about aliens? And you're now reckoning with like, are I am I now in this film too? Am I in this film too? Because, you know, you said this is the most, you started with this might be the most important

to discover it all the other time. If this is true, I'm just like, I have no idea if any of these guys, it's very conspiracist. I've seen on Twitter. Does the first guy, David Grush, believe in the Vatican's involvement in this? I have no idea what to think. I think the main thing for me is just the idea that when I think about my personal belief, I've always believed that there's probably life somewhere, but intelligent life,

that's the one where it's like, because if you think about what life is here, we're very human-ric and we think about Yes, there's life on earth, but really it's like millions of organisms that aren't capable of building sophisticated societies and interstellar travel and all that stuff right It's just like ants and amoeba and like Dojo birds and all that stuff that's existing here. I was so it's like Yeah, there's probably life somewhere, but is it all that stuff that's existing here. So it's like, yeah, there's probably life somewhere,

but is it intelligent life? And when you start talking about UFOs, that's an interesting thing going back to the nonhuman biologics. I'm like, well, what have aliens found like those spacecraft with the Russians sent like a dog up into space or whatever? It's like, that's a like a nonhuman biologic, right?

Like, so is what they found actually what operated this craft or is it just, you know, something you're wondering if the aliens sent us the equivalent of a golden retriever. Yes. Pretty much. Pain. Maybe. Pain. This guy, David Grush, right, the guy who has other conspiracies that I want to be very skeptical

love as he provides a new one, he said that said that he had quote specific knowledge of misappropriated funds like miss labeled funds that end up going to secret government uf o programs what is your theory of the case here if we are to believe that this stuff that he's alleging here has legs what is the government alleged to be doing i mean the problem with his story is that he's the guy coming forward as the whistleblower saying, I'm aware of this stuff, but he isn't the guy who has the physical proof or has the picture or, you know, what do we take to convince probably most people, right?

But he's also mentioning, you know, over 40 people he's talked to. So I think the alternative is actually stranger that 40 people with top level like secret clearance have been gaslighting him for, you know, a decade to, you know, to what end, right? So I think that there's something definitely here. And I think that, you know, once Congress discovers if it is true that there's been funds misappropriated, this is going to be the lynch pin and how we can, you know, tap into some sort of top secret program if it does in fact exist. It's like how they call alcohol, right?

It's like the paper trail of what it will be. Yeah, this will be the classic like, you know, what the feds do, right? Well, that's the thing though, theagon the pentagon is never gaslit anybody you mean they would never do this i mean paint on trying to balance our skepticism's though but i imagine that for you for you how do you feel about this

as the guy who's beat is uf o's to now see yourself watching this scene unfolding congress i'm still very skeptical of everything myself, but I've just looked at this as many ways as I can. I'm struggling to find the reason why he'd be making this up, so I don't think he's lying, and I don't see why anyone else would be making it up to him. So until I see more, I wouldn't definitively say anything, but go with my god. It's just exciting times because I think either way

You know, this has been a rumor forever that you know the government has UFOs and aliens and area 551 It's like okay like this is this is a tired conversation How are we still talking about this? It you know, it never went away. We never debunked it So I think that we should find out either way if this is true. Pain, thank you for joining us. This has been a very surreal, surreal moment in human history. In the movies, this is the scene, A.O. is now. I know, I feel like I'm gonna be clipped out of this

and be like, I don't know about these aliens as like footage of the alien destroying. They're gonna put it on their bulletin board. There's you. Ha ha ha. The alien Michael Jordan. Ha ha ha. Pain Lindsay, UFO expert, host of the alien counter podcast,

high-strange as well as true crime shows like Up in Vanishing Dead and Gone, which is about two murdered grateful dead fans for the Stugots crowd out there. Oh wow. Thank you for joining us, sir. Thanks, Pain. Thank you.

How you guys doing? We did good. I think increasingly less well. We're fine. We're fine. They're fine. They're fine with us. Totally doubting whether they exist or not.