The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: That's The Way I Crumble with Cookie Rojas (feat. Ron Magill)

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Dan continues to mistake Sams for each other because he refuses to accept that you can be good at sports and named Sam. Plus, Ron Magill is back from Australia to share stories of his adventure and explain to us what one of the scariest-looking creatures we've ever seen may be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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before it's fully grown in at Lebatard Show? Fair. It's just pathetic. I know, it is terrible. It just feels like you've missed a spot shaving and you're just gonna go full mustache? You're gonna go Mike Ryan and just mustache. You're gonna no goatee, nothing.

Soon, Greg Cote, when's the last time Greg Cote had just a mustache? Greg goatee. It's been a while, it's been a long long time really is that you know it's just an incident that's like ten days of growth right said no it's not ten come on uh... i think i a began not shaving my upper lip uh... three or four days ago i want to ask you about the thing that's in the news today as we are gobbling up

any crumb of football Information that you will give us with this sport about eight weeks out or so Not that long before football is here one of the more curious stories last year I thought and somewhat unexplained was Kirk Cousins in Atlanta And he has finally said on the new Netflix series quarterbacks. He's still in Atlanta, by the way. That's what he said I couldn't believe that He had to say it in order for me to believe it he was part of this quarterback show I'm like, yeah, what happened to him? It was a foregone conclusion. He was gonna switch teams and nope

And just contract to prohibitive. I guess he's just there being lied to by Atlanta Well, he said a little bit misled is what he said and Kirk Cousins He said that he would have stayed in Minnesota if he had known they were going to draft Michael Pennex or draft anybody that high, that he felt a little bit misled. And I thought it was fair criticism from him. I think you're entitled to know when making your decisions whether a future employer has slightly more than a few months really invested in you and it would have affected his decision he was saying I would have just stayed in

Minnesota he would have had that he would have imagined himself having the season that Sam Bradford just had I mean as long as they pay you the same do they owe do they owe you that info same door I think so okay but these are two different things right like there's one part where he's saying I felt misled I wouldn't have signed there because there's a finite amount of time he has it's not going to be multiple years once they draft Michael Penick's but he certainly had more than a few months if he played well but he was terrible and then they pulled the plug that wasn't their intention to pull the plug on him they

they would have desperately wanted Michael Penick's to take zero snaps last year he took snaps because Cousins was bad Yeah, that's a bad combination playing poorly that salary and being that age Kirk Cousins had a couple of games there, which he promptly got I don't even think it was promptly because there were three Consecutive weeks where he was very clearly done the interceptions that he was throwing my bad What what I didn't that he was throwing were as bad as you'd ever see. No, Mike, what I didn't understand, he was missing very basic, basic throws and it made me just think he was injured and I was waiting for this Netflix series to find out how injured

was he because his arm strength didn't seem to be the same. There would be just these little outs that he was throwing into the turf and turf and i'm like wait a minute this is somebody who's accurate like that i don't recognize this quarterback after a few weeks and one of the reasons i'm interested in the netflix series is to up to see what the mental approaches when you come out of minnesota you go to atlanta they've invested in you as if you're a big-time quarterback you are one of the great thieves who hasn't won anything at the position because you've made so much money

and it would have been better to be in Minnesota last year. He would have had a much easier time of it where you're not trying to make Kyle Pitts into what we all thought he was gonna be in college and you've got Justin Jefferson instead. But I wanna ask as because I've again made this Sam mistake evidently where I don't I Did this after the Stanley Cup final where I'm sitting there making the mistake of confusing Sam Bennett and Sam Reinhardt

Forgivable and what you ruled that it was unforgivable And so I'd like to get a ruling right now because I just did it again with Sam Darnold Did you see I don't trust Sam's like I? Sam Darnold. Did you see? I don't trust Sams. Like, Sams and sports are giving me trouble and I want to see if the mistake that I just made. Did you hear the mistake that I just made? What did you refer to Darnold as? You call him Bradford? Bradford. I call him Sam Bradford. And so I'm getting my Sams. I've got a glitch somewhere in the system that makes Sam Darnold Sam Bradford and Sam Reinhardt Sam Bennington because I don't think anybody who's Sam can be good at sports and I'd like to

add a Norman to the conversation by the way since we're talking about Norman Powell today you can only that there's a ceiling on how good a Norman or a Sam can be at sports before I'm like that's as good as he's gonna be he's gonna be about as good as Sam Bradford. Wow. So let's get a, let's see if this, get a ruling here on is this forgivable? Is this a forgivable mistake or unforgivable? Do I need to pay a fine for my Sam Bradford mistake?

Not being able to tell the difference between Minnesota Viking quarterbacks, if it was Sam Bradford, who I do believe at one point was a Minnesota Viking quarterback. Is it a forgivable mistake? And Sam Darnold. Forgivable. Whoa, really?

Shocking. Yeah. Forgivable. Yeah, you mentioned that. Forgiven. OK, thank you. I appreciate that. The thing that I wanted to ask you, is Kirk Cousins, is it fair

that he feels misled? Like did he deserve something better than that from the Atlanta Falcons when he was a free agent and does a potential employer owe you that as some kind of truth or sorry it's cold as business? I think a veteran of that accomplishment and that longevity deserves the truth from his general manager. it can be we want to draft michael pennix but we think he's a year a year and a half away we definitely want you next season and after that let's see

but kirk cousins needs to come to the realization that he's on that path that uh... andy don't was on he's on the path that russia wilson is now on he's the former quarterback of the aging former starting quarterback of great accomplishment, pretty good career accomplishment. He's now over the hill. You realize how fast that happened though? Because it happened in seven games. Yeah. It happened in seven games last season where he's the answer, he's the answer what? Atlanta's gonna invest in that? Oh

never mind. See he's got a long future. He's got five, six more years if he's willing to be the savvy backup. Okay but Greg. How's he though? He long future. He's got five, six more years if he's willing to be the savvy backup. Okay, but Greg, it's so... Hussie though, he's 36. This is where quarterbacks historically age, and Tom Brady just changed all the math for us. Same way with Drew Brees, who kind of started tailing off as he approached 40. And these are all-time great quarterbacks. It would make sense that a guy like Kirk Cousins hits a wall at 35. It makes all the sense in the world. History is your indicator. That is correct. It's just the six games that catches me off guard and it's not what

Atlanta was banking on. And when he says that it's the coldness of the business, that he's got to go out there and prove himself over the year or months, I don't know how it affects someone mentally to believe they've just changed their entire life for an employer. They've left the safety of where it is they were, for the pressure of, I agree to be the nuclear epicenter of your football city. I agree to contract terms. How much faith does my employer have in me? Oh, half a season. It's half a season of faith. It's not a season, two seasons. It's not we're going to groom Michael Pennick for 18 months from now. You cannot tell me that Kirk Cousins went into last season thinking that by this season he'd

be in the position you're talking about him in, which is he's got to accept that he is now a back, that he's Andy Dalton now when he just signed a hundred million dollar contract and believes that he would have been in Minnesota. What either Sam Bradford or Sam Darnold would have been. It was just really confusing and you feel for Kirk Cousins a little bit in that he made that decision. He had plenty of suitors and he got a hefty payday for it. Everyone settled on, okay, that's the direction that Atlanta is going in. But then they drafted Pennix and then everybody would have told you yeah midseason Kirk Cousins

has probably got to struggle a little bit like he usually does it's a little rough patch and then everybody will be calling for the first round draft pick to come in it became super obvious when they made that draft pick the whole thing that was bizarre was well if you're gonna make that draft pick why'd you sign Kirk Cousins to one of the richest deals in the history of the sport correct but but Minnesota signed JJ j g mccarthy they were going to move on from him to and that's the reason that erin rogers didn't end up in minnesota old quarterbacks have to face

their reality there's a news of dolphins as an example with two is injury status go on he's still a young quarterback the last thing they need is a zach wilson as a backup they needed in andy dalton uh... a kirk cousins as their backup and there are a dozen people that is that is our cousins doing revisionist history i do believe my history is yet kirk cousins if you wanted to stay in minnesota would have stayed in minnesota and probably would have had a season that looked a lot like sam darnold's or sam bradford's and what off-base with savior scrubs that looked a lot like Sam Darnold's or Sam Bradford's. I know it. Off base with Xavier Scruggs.

There's no way that that's a podcast. Off base with Xavier Scruggs. Are all the names taken? Real or fake? I just said it's fake. There's no way. It's real. Off base with Xavier Scruggs a

poker pod called two aces with Dallas Keichel and Aaron Nola a poker pod called two aces why would you make that up with Dallas Keichel and Aaron Nola I wouldn't you make that up by the way Perry Hill is still in the big leagues with the Seattle Mariners. Incoming, that's a news story in Seattle. Like, the disgrace, the disgrace that has been brought on Perry Hill, eternal nice guy, by David Sampson is gonna become a news story in Seattle.

We demand a response, Perry Hill. Yeah, till the end of business. Two Aces, a poker pod with Dallas Keichel and Aaron Nola. I'm gonna guess yes. That is a fake podcast. Oh no. It should be. Take a Waka with Michael Waka.

Real or fake? That's not real. Take a Waka. No. That's not right. Take a Waka with Michael Waka. That's not a real thing. It's a fake podcast.

We're cooking though. We're cooking. Built for the storm with Jeremy I felt built for this storm with Jeremy I felt real or fake What do you do why you making face I just don't understand like Who cares what Jerry Apple has say I? Just cared a minute ago what they'llichel had to say about poker.

Real or fake? Built for the storm. Jeremy Affleck. Two ways to get it because it's about poker and they use a pitch. Jeremy Affleck's built for the storm podcast is indeed real. It's not that I didn't get it. I believed it. I believed that they got with their marketing teams and they put together a hell of a podcast. World Series of Pokers going on. The Hot Corner with Todd Zeal. No, that's not a podcast. That is indeed fake.

You got me. No, but you've got the tell of anything. There is nobody doing a baseball podcast who is a player who made me laugh in the 90s with merely their name. Turning two with Brandon Phillips and Orlando Cabrera. They're not friends in real life. Come on, 2010 Reds.

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We are waiting for this one. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. There's two gods. Urban Meyer, it is amusing to me to continually see him, no matter what the controversy is, be able to sort of climb his way into a place where no one cares what's in his mercenary past. He can continue to traffic off of being whatever Urban Meyer was that was a god in college and a disgrace in the pros. There are very few human beings who have gone to the pros and can't last a season in that job. I think Lou Holtz was

one of them where you're just a college coach and you had the ego of a professional coach and as soon as you got to the pros and exhibited that ego in a way that had no humility in it, you got run off within a year. Like you are, in terms of you being access to leadership, vocal guy as a college sports authority, I cannot tell you how much you pale compared to Nick Saban even,

who only lasted one year in that position, but not quite with the disgrace of going straight to becoming a clown because of his professional experience. And Urban Meyer now says that he was offered a job to sort of be a general manager for a college football program and his response was dealing with the agents of 17 and 18 year old kids I would rather put a rusty nail in my foot, step on a rusty nail and take it out myself than do that. Do you guys think it's that much different

dealing with an agent than whatever it is he was dealing with before when it was the families and the brokers and the friends of the economy? Like, do you guys think that what he's saying, why would Urban Meyer think himself better than agents when all he is is you have it must be so much agent but otherwise he wouldn't say that he dealt with it before it must be so much different right but he's the same creature is what I'm saying agents dealing with urban Meyer are dealing with the same sort of

economy salesman that urban Meyer thinks he's dealing with when he's dealing with the same sort of economy salesman that Urban Meyer thinks he's dealing with when he's dealing with the agent for a 17 or 18 year old. The reason Urban Meyer doesn't want to deal with the agent for a 17 or 18 year old, because he's always been the agent for the 17 or 18 year old. He's more comfortable with that structure than the one that's presently in place where you take away his power and now you give that agency to somebody who actually is around the money and you've neutered Urban Meyer. He can't run a program that way. Paul Feinbaum was on first take and he revealed that Urban Meyer once told them that Cam Newton is the worst player he ever dealt with. He once coached a murderer.

You guys do understand, right? The mythology that we sort of build around these glorified salesmen, make it so that Urban Meyer thinks he's better than these agents when he makes his money the same way. Like he thinks he's above them when all he did was traffic in 17 and 18 years old. And when he had to deal with men, he could not. Like they ran him out of the league in a year, a laughing stock, didn't respect him. Nick Sabanan kept his respect Nick Saban could go back to college and not be this used car salesman

Mercenary that urban Meyer is while still grifting off the game Like he's still making his money as a powerhouse voice on television because people extend him a credibility that suggests He's less used car salesman than he actually is that suggests he's less used car salesman than he actually is. The Triple Option with Urban Meyer. That is a fast ascending podcast I've seen. That is real. Who's on that podcast? Mark Ingram and Rob Stone.

Yeah, I heard funny things about that podcast because that podcast is ascending, but I'm guessing that Fox would like it to be ascending for them. What do you hear about it? I'm just saying like that. That is a very popular national college football podcast, but it also is something that should seemingly belong to Fox that belongs to other people because they just went out and did the same thing away from Fox that they were doing on Fox. Well, if Fox is interested in getting the game, ain't no changing it was Zedarius Smith is out there for the plucking.

Can we get that up and running by the end of the day? I want our fans to make that actually climb because there's a domain name. I want, at the very least, I just want a link for our fans to be able, it could be Mike Ryan with a fake voice just giving the intro to this podcast until we've located Zadarius Look who we've located here. It has been much too long since we have seen Ron McGill. He has been in Australia I am upset that Billy Gill is not here today because I thought that Billy Gill blasphemed while you were away And I wanted you to correct the people here who all were mocking the Everglades as a national park. All of these spoiled South Floridians who've gotten used to what our wildlife is here

they say that the Everglades stinks when it comes to national park status compared to all of the... last place they ranked it, the Everglades in national parks and I wanted Ron McGill to set him straight because just because we're used to how unusual our wildlife is doesn't mean there's not a mate like more amazing wildlife in the Everglades than there is just about anywhere. Absolutely. You're absolutely correct.

I mean, you know, you go into the Everglades and you can see, you know, 20, 30 species of birds, alligators, turtles, snakes. I mean, there's so much wildlife, but you have to take the time to look at it. Now, granted, when you first drive into the Everglades, it's flat, it seems to be somewhat, you know, a monoculture and not a lot of different species in trees, but when you look at it closer, oh my gosh, you got to give it time

and things start coming out of nowhere. I mean, it is a plethora of wildlife, all kinds of great wildlife. Like I said, granted, it doesn't give you that initial impact like when you go into Yosemite and you see, oh, half dome and you see these massive mountains and waterfalls. I'll give you that. But when you sit and look closer, the amount of wildlife that you will see will put something

like Yosemite to shame. I don't think that the average person would believe that. You know, you don't have to argue that for Yellowstone. Hey, take a closer look. If you really look at it, there's all these different types of trees. We like topography here. Points against. Take a closer look.

I actually had that on my list. Take a closer look. With Eric Gagne. Take a closer look. Take a closer look with Angel Hernandez. That's great. Ron, you just got back from Australia. You've been gone for a while.

We have a big fan base in Australia. How were your travels? Dude, it was incredible. One of the first things that happened to me is some guy comes up to me in Melbourne, Australia and goes, oh my God. I can't do the Australian accent, but he had it very strong. He goes, please try, please try. I can't, I can't, I can't.

Yeah, mate, mate, mate, you're on the kill. I go, yeah, yeah. He goes, oh, I'm a big fan. I listen't, I can't, I can't. Yeah, mate, mate, mate, you're on the kill. I go, yeah, yeah. He goes, oh, I'm a big fan of the Listen Now Levitard Show. Are you kidding me? I actually took a picture with the guy. I'll text it to you because the guy comes up to me and goes, I can't believe you're here.

I go, I can't believe you just came up to me and said you're a big fan of the Levitard Show in Australia on the other side of the world. And it happened more than once. It was incredible. It happened in Sydney as well. So, you know what? Kudos to you guys.

You guys are doing a great job. Well, that can't be the best thing from your travels though. I wasn't asking. No, no, that was far from the best thing from my travels. So what did you see that was foreign? What did you see that you had never seen before? Okay, a lot of things that I'd never seen before in the wild, but the number one Holy grail

that made me literally tear up was seeing a platypus in the wild, a flipping platypus. We traveled up through this rainforest road and you know they only come out, they're very rare first of all, incredibly secretive. It's one of only two egg-laying mammals in the world, the echidna and the platypus. This thing looks like it was put together by a Dr. Seuss puppet. Okay, it's got a duck bill, it's got little beady eyes, it's got a beaver tail, it's got flippers like an otter. It's an unbelievable little animal. Only one of two egg laying mammals only comes out

like one hour before and after sunrise, one hour before and after sunset. You'll only see it on the water. You don't see them on land because they only live in a burrow on land, but they spend all their time in the water. And man, we went up to this little lake. It was like this, you drive up this rainforest road

and all of a sudden it opens up and it's this little lake. It was so ethereal. There's not one single person anywhere to be seen. All you hear are like the cuckoo bears, you know, these cuckoo bears and all different kinds of sounds and frogs. And this lake is just like mirror glass. And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, if I see a platypus here, I'm going to lose my flipping mind.

And sure enough, no more than 10, 15 minutes he points and goes there. I go, look, and I saw like this little silver thing on the top of the water. I said, what is that 10, 15 minutes, he points and goes, there, I go, look, and I saw like this little silver thing on the top of the water, I said, what is that? And then I saw it go down and go, oh my God, is that a platypus? He goes, yes, yes, yes, patience, we're in a little canoe, we can't make any noise.

I literally had to take the shutter sound off of my camera. Thankfully, my camera can shoot silently so it doesn't make the shutter sound, because he says, even if they hear the shutter sound, they'll disappear. So we stay perfectly still and to make a long story short we saw about seven different platypuses and one of them actually came right up to the flipping canoe and looked at me. I couldn't believe I was shaking so hard I was wondering if I was ever going to get a sharp picture but I did

and that's like the holy grail for me. So that that is the pinnacle. Then seeing the freaking cassowary in the Daintree Forest, the place that Sir David Attenborough called his favorite place in the world. Okay. The cassowary is considered the most dangerous bird in the world, has a huge middle claw that can eviscerate you in a second, flightless bird, but you know, it can stand over five feet tall. And man, we saw this thing come out of the forest. I couldn't believe I saw it in the wild, not just one, but two, an adult and a youngster. Fantastic experience, man. You said seven platy player it is you said seven platypuses Is that the accurate way to say it? I was I thought it was you know, I don't know

I don't know if it was platypi platypuses or just platypus. I don't know Pussies put it on the pole, please that let me know. I knew you were going there Mike I knew you were going there. I knew you were going there And that's why I tried to you know deflect it as fast as I could but no you stuck with it at LeBittard show the plural of platypus platypus I or platypus is I'm not doing yours Mike at LeBittard show but also put on the poll did you know that the platypus was incredibly secretive and hard to see, because that's not something that I knew.

And this runs contrary. What's making you weep there, they seem wildly unimpressed with. Oh, really? Ron went all the way to the other side of the country to see the top of the head of a platypus in the water. Well, I saw that the head, the tail, the whole nine yards I saw in the water, and I saw up to seven of them. And yes, it is pretty flippant incredible incredible but you guys are so shallow minded you'd be more you know more impressed with seeing

you know somebody do some stupid sports trick okay yeah I'm not I'm not with them on this but I can just see they're unimpressed by what it is that you're trying to tell them even though the platypus is one of the most amazing cartoon creatures there's ever been that that nose doesn't even make any sense what's happening it's's incredible right? And it lays eggs guys. It's a mammal that lays an egg. Come on. This is cool stuff. Hey everybody, it's Mike down here in South Florida.

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We all just stared at you. It didn't land at all. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats! We've got some other cool stuff to play for you here. I want you to tell me here what this is. This is buried in the sand on the beach here. You tell me what this animal is. You're always telling us how weird the sea is.

If I were in the ocean or walking along the beach and doing this and this is what I pulled out of the, out of the sand. Oh, I don't like an octopus. Is that an octopus? What is that? Not an octopus. That's some kind of anthropod Oh, I don't like an octopus. It's not that. Is that an octopus? What is that? Not an octopus. That's some kind of anthropod, but I don't know. Alien. What is that?

It's some kind of, I, I, I, I, and some kind of anthropod, I believe. I'm not sure, but that's not my expertise guys. Okay. But that's not an octopus. Is that an, is that its eye? Is that its eye? Better be. What is that?

I think that's its mouth. Okay. Are you sure? I'm just trying. I'm not sure. I'm not sure of anything. All right. Let's take a guess right now. When it comes out again and I will say, eye, mouth or ass. What is that?

That's coming out of the water right there at the top. Eye. You have to be right. Eye, mouth or ass. I'm saying mouth. Greg, paint the picture for the audio audience. What are they looking at here? It's a real ugly thing coming out of the mud with something that looks like an asshole.

All right, good words. Good use of words for a writer. That is not helpful to the audio audience. There are tentacles. That's why I said octopus. No, but your father, a wordsmith for a living, just like, I want you guys to try and draw what he just described, and he called it mud.

It wasn't even beach sand. He called it it mud and he just said an asshole came out of the sand as if David Samson had appeared whoa it is a squid like it's got a number pull it up again it's got a number of different tentacles it looks like the top of a court jester's hat in terms, it looks a bit like an alien. But then when you get past the octopi part of the situation, then it's just a slab of body that I don't, what would you, it's like a slab of beef, it looks like.

But I think that's what it is. I think those tentacles are like the whiskers on a catfish where it finds its food and then it inhales the food through the opening, which is the mouth. And then it is absorbed through that body. But this is why I think it's the asshole. Look how close it is to the tail, Ron. That's the tail in the back of it.

Is it not that's hanging out to the floor? No, I think that's some type of antenna. I think that's some type of antenna. I don't think that's a tail. I think the tail is the body part. This is great video. It's not great audio, but it is. It is great. It's fantastic

I don't know what it is. Like I said, you know, the ocean hosts so many secrets and I certainly don't you know Profess myself to be an expert of ocean life, but it was pretty incredible. All right. Let's look at this video with Ron This is a herd of water buffalo and it comes back to save a calf from a pride of lions I don't know. Oh, yeah, I don't know how much you get moved by things like this in the wild How often do you get moved by things like this in the wild, how often do you get moved by things like this? This is bad for the lions. The lions need to know not to mess with this calf, correct? That's true, that is true.

Cape buffalo are considered the most dangerous animal in Africa. You know about the experience I had with one of them. And you were there as a matter of fact. Lions don't mess with Cape buffalo. They're just trying to get that calf. I don't know how this ended up. My suspicion is that the video is really cool, but at the end of the day,

they probably got that calf anyway. Oh, no. You think so? Because it's... Oh, no, wait a minute. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No backups there. No, no, the calf lives. I thought it was just that one female with the calf and the pride of lions and I said no chance. But no, when I saw the reinforcements come in,

it's over, lions gotta call it a day. All right, what about this video here? What are your thoughts here on this human being who decides that he is going to high five a bear here? How dangerous. An idiot. He's an idiot. All right, but that's, he seems to-

It's a solid dad it was a good high five it looks like it's a it's a baby bear and yeah okay okay big baby you can't fix stupid Dan and people like that make it dangerous for people to come after them that's what the problem but he got a successful high five that you can't dispute is that is that is that your conclusion here and looking at this video it am I wrong Dan Dan stop it okay stop it. Okay, that's not perpetuating that crap. That's a fact. He got a successful high five. I think that's a human in a costume, not gonna lie. It does look like one. It looks like your posture's too good.

Let's look at this. Stan Van in or Stan Van out, Ron McGill? Is this a human being in a costume, in a bear costume? Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out on that is David Sampson in a bear costume? We had the same issue with that one bear in China. Remember they thought they could. There was a whole TikTok crazy. The guy in a costume standing there. Bears can stand up that way. I've seen it firsthand. Looks like he's tipping over. Ron, no one has been hurt more by the way that Zoom distorts sound than you because you're great with animal sounds So I wouldn't ask you to repeat an animal sound for us now because of how zoom distorts it But can you tell us what your favorite animal sound is favorite animal sound?

You know, I I think it's the lyrebird because the lyrebird can make so many different sounds that It's hard to believe it's one animal I've heard lyrebirds mimic fire alarms and other animals and drinking water. It sounds like water guns. Lyrebirds, if you Google that lyrebird, sounds of lyrebirds, you'll be blown away. Is this what the lyrebird sounds like?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does the lyrebird sound like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It can, if it heard it, it could reproduce that sound pretty well. That is the liar bird. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What animal makes that sound?

What is the closest animal in the animal kingdom? It sounds like Elmer Fudd to me, I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty good. Ron, welcome back. It is nice to see you again, sir. Thank you. Hi guys. Have a great week. We've missed him. Ron McGill travels all over the globe helping people, interns, people who want to live a fun life around wildlife. He just comes back from a trip in Australia. I can't imagine how fun that was for the winners that were with him to see the world that way. And thank you to all of our fans in Australia who were

kind enough to find Ron McGill in the wild and give him a hug. If you want to support his endowment, you can do so. It is substantive and you listeners are the biggest donators that Zoo Miami has ever had. So we thank you for that. So, oh, we've got more of this, do we? The Stinking Truth with Mark Shlarath. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's gotta be true. That is a real podcast.

Chirpin with Jeremy Roenick. I say, yeah. Chirpin with an right here. I say yeah. Chirpin with an apostrophe. I love that. Do ya? Yeah. Can't have the G on the end. Gotta lop it. Alright, so I wanna ask you guys when has

Trash Talk escalated to Chirpin and a similar question when has an argument finally gotten to heated? Like when does, I wanna know the spot in where, because chirping is, it's not the worst of trash talk. It's pretty low, I'd say. Isn't that just hockey, chirping?

It's definitely used a lot in hockey, but I would call it chirp is just like a harmless thing, like a little pass by. It's a small bird is where it comes from, but I think chirping is the lowest form. It is the mildest form of trash talk, is it not? An argument that is heated is something that is more threatening in nature than chirping.

Chirping is the weakest form of disagreement in sports. Is there not? No, not in hockey. Chirping, especially in this Stanley Cup final. It was it was pretty bad. Yeah, but the chirping Roy but it's not it's not fighting. It's just chirping. chirping is it's parakeets. It's not even adult birds that

chirp. Is it real or fake podcast? hosted by Jeremy Roenick. Do adult birds chirp? Or is it just baby birds that chirp? Is the chirp made by a baby? I think any bird can chirp. It's fake. Is it with an apostate?

It's a fake podcast, we made it up. Deal With It, hosted by Jonathan Papelbaum. Deal With It, hosted by Jonathan Papelbaum. Papelbaum deals. Yes, I get what's happening here, but I don't believe that that is a podcast. I don't believe that Pappalbomb has any great desire to have his words out there. His real podcast is called Papsmear.

That is true. Deal with it with Jonathan Pappalbomb not real. That's the way I crumble hosted by Cookie Rojas. That one's fake. That's the way I crumble, hosted by Cookie Rojas. Ah! Ha ha! Ha ha! Ha ha! Ha ha! That one's fake.

Can of corn with Joe Mays. Ha ha ha! I see what you're doing there. Does Jeremy Roenick have an actual podcast? Because he does, it's just not that one, right? What you're doing right now is this shell game of throwing people at me who have podcasts but disorienting me with the name. Is Can of Corn with Joe Mays a real podcast?

Wait, why did you move off of Cookie Rojas so- Because that one was obviously fake. Is he still with us? That's the way I fumble with Cookie Rojas. That's excellent. Is not a real one. That is, but wait a minute. But Can of Corn with Joe Mays. Did you just kill Cookie Rojas? No a real one. That is, but wait a minute. But Can of Corn with Joe Mays.

Did you just kill Cookie Rojas? No, I asked the question. Jeremy Roanick has a, he's got a real podcast called Snipes and Stripes. It's him and an NHL referee. Tim Peel. That's good. Can of Corn with Joe Mays.

No, that's not a podcast. But his last name is Mays. It's amazing. It's fake. It's not gonna be. It's not gonna be. Say la vie with Ron Say. The Penguin.

That is not a podcast. And why would any, why would Ron Say, a third baseman for the 70s Dodgers start a podcast. It's ridiculous. I'm getting to it with Sean Green. Is I'm getting to it with Sean Green and real podcasts. No, that's not a real podcast. It should be. Oh, it shouldn't be. The thing that you're doing that is wrong and ruins the game for me. I'm getting to it. This could be a good game but you're ruining it because every time it has got an obvious tell by you just naming a 90s player that you remember. I'm getting to it. All you remember about Sean Green is that he got a lot of money from the Dodgers and...

And that he doesn't play on Rosh Hashanah. He doesn't play for the Jewish holiday. That's correct. That's The Breaks with Kurt Busch. That's The Breaks. I'm gonna say that is a podcast. I'm gonna say... No. Dem's The Breaks is. Awww. Got him!

You idiot. I love this game. Say what needs to be said is what started all of this. Deal with it! With Jonathan Papelbaum. Look at me when I'm talking to you. Do you believe, Greg, when me when I'm talking to you. Do you believe, Greg, when I turn that music off,

when I say what I do about Urban Meyer, the audience has no real revulsion to Urban Meyer being on their television. The audience supports the idea that Urban Meyer was an expert on this thing, and therefore him saying that he's disgusted by what the game is now, as if what he was presiding over was somehow pure when he had a murderer in his huddle.

And now he's just objecting to the fact that the power and the money have shifted in a way that he can't control. And it's what made his NFL experience such a laughing stock that he couldn't control adults the way that he can control children when the power structure was set up for him to control children. Well, as a championship coach, he's always gonna to have that platform

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