The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Broken Braces (feat. Matthew Berry)

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

"Okay. When I say 'Hitler,' what do you think?" Tony knows about hustling, Chris knows about the 4 o'cock window, Dan doesn't know about the Balkans, Jeremy knows about being hot, Mike happens to ...know about Lane Kiffin, Matthew Berry knows Fantasy Football, and Amin knows basketball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast. Oh, wow, what an NFL weekend. Huge games everywhere. Four big ones? Four huge ones? Four huge ones? Every game is big, but there's four bigger ones. Big game.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I love a big game. Locked into Chargers Jags. Play off implications. If you want tickets to that or any other NFL game, I want you to take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with Game Time. Download the GameTime app, create an accountant, use code. Dan, for $20 off, your first purchase, terms apply, swipe, tap, ticket, go. Don't sleep on small games, though, because there's a lot of room there.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Not as many people. Concession stand, lines are smaller. Don't sleep on the little games. The little games are literally when I do sleep. Four o'clock window? Not this week. When there are three four o'clock games and Arizona's involved and I'm not terribly interested, that is a good sleeping place.
Starting point is 00:01:00 There are some decent napping windows on the NFL. Tony is never napping on the weekends. He's perpetually hustling. He's got two things going on this weekend because he is an unrelenting hustler. It's not just what we were telling you about on Sunday, where he is, I believe, the verb he used was spearheading, our coverage of the big Chiefs Broncos game. But it's also what you're doing Saturday at Dead Flamingo, right?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Saturday night, Dan, Dan, probably the biggest UFC card of the entire year. UFC loves to do this. It loves to back end the year and close it out with a bang at MSG. Bookend, I think you, man. Dano. No, they close it out with a bang. It's not a bookend thing.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It's a close it out with a bang thing because they're... Back end is fine. Back end is fine because the problem is they don't really bookend. Book it means it's good in the beginning. But I thought the way you put your hands up, you meant bookend. No, but I just talk with my hands because I'm... Why is everybody an asshole today? Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Today? Do we have another jack shit here? Damn. All right. Dano. UFC 322, we caught Islam Makashev moving up a weight division to fight Jack Delamadena, a massive super fight between the two. Then, in the co-main event, another massive super fight between Valentina Shevchenko
Starting point is 00:02:10 and Zhang Wei Li. Okay, she's moving up a division to go fight Valentina Sheffschenko. She lifted Shaq and Frances and Ghana, basically, over her shoulder. She's like five foot two. We're going to pull that up. She's very strong. So these two super fights are happening, plus a ton of other great fights. Oh, here you go.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Jean Whaley with Shaq. As you can see, she's like literally five foot three. Cool haircut. On Shaq? Now, let's judge here. I saw this before. Let's judge if this is a real lift. She's also wearing big shoes.
Starting point is 00:02:35 She gets some help here. I'm saying she gets some help here. She's lifting Shaq off the ground. And now it's Francis and Gano. France's one is easy. Yeah, I mean, he just, yeah, that's like. But that's a guy that weighs like 275 pounds of pure muscle. Shaq is pushing 360.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Jack gave a little. Okay. Could you do what she does? did to Shaq? Shack, I don't believe that classifies as her lifting up Shack. I believe that's Shack getting up on a tipping toe. Everybody's an asshole. Because Shaq got in the air.
Starting point is 00:03:06 At least give her something. She's small. He's huge. Thank you. So, UFC 32 at the Garden. We'll be live at Dead Flamingo. Party starts at 10 o'clock. Great fights on the prelims.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Great fights on the main card. We've got a bunch of stuff happening. Bookend. We'll be bookending the Dead Flamingo night with opening. up and then also us. Good job. Good job. Thank you. You didn't say cock. You came close, but you didn't say it. I was like, oh, here it comes. He's going to say cock, but he didn't. And then on Sunday, spearheading the cheap seats. We've got Kansas City, Denver, probably the biggest matchup of the year. Definitely in the four of cock window. For the shipping container.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Jeremy, I believe that Dominique Foxworth was correct when he said that that outfit does indeed require a chain. There's a lot of neck there. There's a bit of chest. There are some promises being made by the top part of that shirt. But I also believe if you were wearing a chain that we might make more fun of you if you were wearing a chain that's too thick. So I guess, yeah, maybe a maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It does kind of help. Mike just put one on him. Well, it's just, it's a lot of neck. That shirt has a lot of neck in it. There's no disputing that. The chain looks good, Dan. The chain is an accent. that helps, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:23 You're welcome. It's a really good look. I look great. I've got a guy for Jim for Jerry, by the way. I know he wants to use that $1,000 to roll it over and get a chain. I got a guy. I got that one on IG. Cuban link.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Jonah Hill told me. This is great. If I want to go to show, I got a guy. White gold. I need white gold. You need white gold? Oh, true. Touche.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Not bad. Maine has some breaking information here that he was very eager to share with everyone because he believes that we do not know something about Babe Ruth that he knows. He was, I guess, thinking about Babe Ruth. because Shohei Otani is, again, one MVP. He is the modern-day Babe Ruth. He's somebody who has only existed one other time in the history of baseball. You know he's Dominican, right?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, I did know that. That one. Dan, you know he was Dominican, right? Well, I thought he was black. I thought Babe Ruth. He know black. He's black. He's a Dominican.
Starting point is 00:05:15 What information do you have on Babe Ruth that, see, Mike Ryan was passing around at dinner last night. new information that he had not heard and he was assuming that no one else had heard it you don't have necessarily breaking news on Babe Ruth. It's not breaking news but it's just like I found look I was reading up
Starting point is 00:05:35 on Shohei winning MVP it's his fourth and fifth years he's a unanimous winner he's the only multiple time unanimous winner MVP in any major sports history and I was like huh that's odd and then I looked up and then it's you know
Starting point is 00:05:50 Aaron Judge wins AL MVP, third time in four years, making him the winningest MVP in Yankees history. And I was like, huh? And so I'm like, guys, do you mean to tell me Babe Ruth wasn't unanimous MVP like 700 times in a row? And I looked it up. And Babe Ruth only has one MVP. Wow, that's fascinating. Do you guys know why he has one MVP? Carl Malone had a great season.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Babe Ruth fatigue. No, they actually had a rule that. Back in the day, lifetime, you could win MVP once. You win it once, you're off the ballot forever. So the year he hit 60 home runs and was crazy, whatever, he wasn't even on the ballot. That is good information. Put it on the poll. Did you know that Babe Ruth won only one MVP?
Starting point is 00:06:38 I have a tidbit for you. Okay, when I say Hitler, what do you think? Micropenus. Yep, that's right. He had a micro penis. Yeah? That came out. yesterday. Yeah? Yeah. Now
Starting point is 00:06:52 like, Dan was like, I knew something about his testicle, but I was like, yeah, no. He had one nut. No, apparently He didn't have one nut. No, he had two, but the other one didn't descend. Okay, that means you go, hold on. So it's inside him? Yeah. Wow. Doesn't that mean? That's ever
Starting point is 00:07:08 happened? You've never gotten up from the couch. I've been like, what? No. Mine hang low, man. Long ball Larry, that's what I am. You said it came out yesterday. I don't believe that the news came out yesterday. No, Jeremy knows about it. I feel like I've heard that before. You know about that Hitler's a micro penis?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, dude, this is a great day for me. First, I'm this hot. Second, I find out Hitler has a micro penis. I mean, what a day for the lucky Jay. Can I say, this has shock you? No, it tracks. It's a par for the course, man. This is exactly the behavior of someone who's mad at the world because his dick is too small.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's right. I don't think that news broke yesterday. I believe that you discovered it yesterday, and you're so narcissistic. that you believe that if you discover something, it's breaking news. That's not how breaking news works. Well, I mean, there is a truth to re-aggregation, like that NPR, spoken word, tiny desk thing, is going re-viral when I thought we did this two years ago.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But you felt pretty strongly that you knew that he had a micropenus, but then when pressed on it, you're like, okay, maybe I knew about the testicle thing. But even that was a wrong tidbit. He had two nuts. One was inside of him. One was inside. per CBS News yesterday. Adolf Hitler most likely suffered from a rare genetic condition called Kalman syndrome.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Researchers and documentary makers, there's reasonable doubt there, my... Your Honor, reasonable doubt. ...researchers and documentary makers said Thursday, following DNA testing of the Nazi dictator's blood. Wait, we still have his blood? The taste of whiteness. Also, Kalman, you know, it's bad enough to have a micropenus. It's even worse when they name it after you. Well, it's just a German doctor diagnosing himself.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Like, oh, come on. You've got to be kidding me. Can you guys get the video, please, here of this. I can't call this a streaker, right? Like, what is the proper name for somebody now who's running on a court or on a field but isn't necessarily taking off their clothes? In order to be a streaker, you have to take off your clothes, right? It can't just be you're running on the court.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Where's this basketball court here? This is Clippers Nuggets the other day. We actually had the video yesterday to roll, but it was the broadcast. We couldn't show it because we get dinged. So we finally got the native angle. This is someone with a cell phone recording it. And this is a kid. He runs across the court in the middle of Nuggets Clippers.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yolkits is on the floor, like important players on the floor. And then he jukees the shit out of one of these security guards, which I can't get enough of. Watching this old man try to get him and then they'll whoop, he gives him the slip. I said that guy's going to be in the training room right next to Bradley Biel after the game. So this is court side and this is during play. They're bringing the ball up and he's just on the court and he's showed his buddy. He had very good seats and he's jukeying security as they took a long time to get out there. And so what is your point that he's near Yokic and that it's during play and that it's just the illusion of security?
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's not really security. That's a really weird thing. Obviously it's funny and then you realize he's like promoting some meme coin and a, you're an asshole, looking for attention, whatever. But there's a part of me as like, wow, this whole thing works under like this implicit code that nobody actually crazy is going to show up, right? Nobody actually crazy is going to have enough money to sit courtside. Because without that, you know, when I always think about this sort of implicit social code, Dan,
Starting point is 00:10:40 when I'm driving, I'd be on a freeway and going like 70 miles an hour, and everyone goes 70. And I'm like, wow, this whole thing is like kind of relying. I'm not just going to go crazy and say, you know what, right turn in the middle of traffic and just take out as many people as I want. It's so crazy that a lot of this stuff is just, we just trust that human beings are not going to just lose their shit at the wrong time. And so something like this, that dude could have ran up to any one of those people and got done God knows what, right?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, I get it. They're metal detectors. Guess what? Now they make, like, box cutters that are made out of plastic, man. But it's not a societal code. It is. consequences it's that that what that person did for their little uh you know because his friends immediately started taping him because it's just something he was going to do to put on
Starting point is 00:11:27 instagram uh the consequences are that he's going to feel it it's not going to be worth it in any way the amount of time he's going to have to spend in jail the amount of time he's going to the amount of money he's going to have to spend because of what kind of crime that is it's not social construct. It's not the person driving on the highway isn't just going to turn right at 70 miles an hour. It's the person's not willing to suffer the consequences of dying if they turn right at 70 miles an hour. But that's my point, Dan, is it's still kind of just assuming, let's just assume everyone is normal. Remember Monica Schellis? Do you guys remember this? Monica Schellis. Yeah, the tennis player, Sellis. It's not Celis? Which one of you two is in the tennis
Starting point is 00:12:05 chat? Exactly. So she was one of the best, like either one or two tennis players in the world, her big opponent, you know, rival with Steffie Graff. And there was a guy who was a big Steffie Groff fan, and he got upset, and he was like, so he literally jumps out in the middle of a match, and he stabs her in the middle of a match. I think that Monica Sellis' career was never the same after that, correct? Like, she was stabbed by somebody who was just a crazy fan. It is Celis, by the way, Dan.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Way to hold your ground. I'm proud of you. It's Monica Sellis. She was a great tennis player. I've never heard anybody but you pronounce it. Shellis. You guys, man, because you don't know about the Balkans. Are you xenophobic?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I believe you guys are. I mean, when you Google it, it's Celis. I've always heard Celis. Regardless, I don't believe her career was ever the same after that emotionally, not physically, right? I say stabbing, you might think it's physically. Anytime someone gets up in the grandstands, you remember that moment. So after she got stabbed, she lost in the, excuse me, she won the Australian Open and lost, I believe, in the U.S. Open finals twice. So, I mean, her career is still obviously very good.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But clearly, what kind of trust issues is that create for an athlete, for anyone, actually, for that matter? But the point is, if that guy was a rational, sane human being, who was just a fan of Steffie Graff, you could argue, yeah, I'd love to get the. competition out the way, but man, the repercussions, the consequences, I can't do that, but he wasn't. He was just bad shit crazy. And so he did it and didn't care of other consequences.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And so when you think about people at an NBA game, particularly court side people, they're rich. Man, you don't know. You just don't know how far insanity goes that a guy could be like, I'm going to liquidate my life savings and I'm going to buy tickets and then I'm going to go stab Nikoliyokic
Starting point is 00:14:07 because I think Luca Dantzich is the best player in the guys everybody's wrong it's sellish sellish my fault i knew there was a show okay so you corrected me but you put the shah in the wrong place you know what sorry i'm dyslexic okay boom it's out in the open i was trying to hide it i worked my entire career keeping in the secret but dan levitard pressured me to reveal my disability and you know what i stand strong for everyone who suffers from dyslexia you're brave yes thank you no thank you I'm merely a vessel It feels like everywhere you turn these days
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Starting point is 00:17:11 Love it. I mean. Nah, I think it's an overrated fry. You guys go ketchup or Chick-fil-A sauce when you have the Chick-fil-A front? Polynesian sauce. Polynesian, that's my brother right there. Good call. You're my brother.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Stugats. Oh, my God. What a weird interaction. White guys. Wah, want, want, wah, wah, wah, why. Wow. This is the Don Lebatar Show with a Two gods.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Segwaying awkwardly to Lane Kiffin, shitposting his way back into the game at the top of the NFL head coaching chain. We were talking earlier this week about what an unusual assent, not linear, it has been for Lane Kiffin to develop the confidence of personality to be unrelentingly himself. as a rehab project, one of the first to come through Nick Sabin's rehab center in Alabama, where he goes and grabs the tarnished professional coach who's an offensive mind. Lane Kiffin is now in play for just about any job he wants, and it's not just the unusual path, as Mike mentioned, Tennessee burning mattresses, tarmac firing at USC, Raiders firing that was very public and messy, was the last time the Raiders were any kind of relevant.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Lane Kiffin is actually shitposting his way to the top of I'm going to be a different kind of coach. That's something you can get away with when there are no expectations in Mississippi. It's something you get away with less if you're going to be the Giants coach, for example. Well, yeah, I mean, you mentioned shit posting. He just retweeted that DJ Lagway got benched when he is the betting favorite to be the next Florida Gators head coach. They have the Gators this week. By the way, if you monitor Gators' message boards, they feel like this Lane Kiffin thing is done. But Lane Kiffin would be wise
Starting point is 00:19:15 to sit and wait. There's a pretty decent NFL job that just opened up with his college quarterback there. And I happen to know that the NFL, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, right in us. He happens to know. Come, everyone. Come and listen. He happens to know. He happens to know. well informed. I happen to know that the NFL does have some teams in it that would be interested in speaking with Lane Kiffin. One has already reached out. It's the one that has his college quarterback. Other teams are kind of in flux trying to figure out what they're going to do,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and they would be interested in Lane Kiffin if that head coaching vacancy did open up. But Lane Kiffin right now is a world by the balls. The Florida job would probably be the one that he takes if he leaves, whole miss because LSC was a freaking mess right now. You don't sue your coach to avoid paying him the entirety of the contract when you're trying to be the biggest job available. Let me ask you guys something here because I had for a long time when it came to the Bobby Bowdens of the world, I was making the argument for a really long time that if I had a job like that, I would just keep that job and not be tempted by the pros. I would not be Urban Meyer. I would not be
Starting point is 00:20:36 Jimmy Johnson. I would like the security. This is a lifetime ago because I wouldn't want that job now with the way that NIL is. This is the security that you could have at Mississippi if you wanted it and your Lane Kippen could be a forever security where you just say to Mississippi, give me the longest contract you've got. I don't want to do any of those other things. I'll just stay here and have very few expectations ever. The moment he lands in New York, game one, the expectations change for everything Lane Kiffin has been. He's in a perfect spot where he could beat Oklahoma and he could beat Texas and he can
Starting point is 00:21:15 beat Florida from a program that no one is expecting anything from, if not for Lane Kiffin. So I ask you, do competitive people think the way that I'm thinking where it's like, Give me a cushy spot where I can just shit post. I can talk my shit about everybody. And if I'm the sixth ranked team in the country, everyone in my fan base is going to be thrilled about the job I've done. There aren't any actual expectations here. So I think there's two things that play.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Number one is just the general ego of like, I feel like I'm just as good as these people that you think are the best of the job. I want the ability. I want the opportunity to prove that I can do it, especially if you're Lane Kiffin, you flamed out the last time you had a pro job it's like no i gotta i gotta show these people i'm i wasn't a you know a bum or whatever but then the other part of it then this is a little different college coaches i know this is true in basketball and i'm i know it's true football i don't know
Starting point is 00:22:09 if it's the case in baseball or any other sport but college coaches even before the n il's stuff they hate a lot of this they like they dream of a day like what i don't have to worry about grades or was he late to study hall i can just coach football and nothing else they dream about that. And so they pine to be in the pros, not just to say, hey, we're one of the best, but also to not have to put up with a lot of dealing, begging a 17-year-old to come play for you. That part of the job is not something that I would like very much if I was in charge of a college football program. But you guys will allow that if Lane Kiffin were the Giants coach, the shit-posting would stop, right? Because there is no NFL coach who is shit-posting.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't know about that. Give me the NFL coach who's doing that. Give you the college coach that's doing what Lane is doing. No one is Lane Kiffin there. Now, the NFL does have an opinion about Lane Kiffin. That stuff doesn't fly for most teams. And believe it or not, his offense is under scrutiny in the NFL. They think that he kind of runs a Mickey Mouse offense that wouldn't translate to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:17 My rebuttal to that is like, doesn't he just run that offense because it's proven to work in college? Don't you think his mind is smarter? enough to devise an offense that would work for the pros, but there are questions there. Lane, also, if he goes to the NFL and flames out, he can go right back to the top of the line when it comes to head coaching candidates. But if he fails at Florida, people are going to be having these concerns. He failed at USC. He failed at Florida.
Starting point is 00:23:43 He's not going to be the top guy anymore. So, first of all, Mike makes an excellent point. There are other questions. He's kind of unique in and of himself in college. But then the reason why I wouldn't fly in the NFL beyond just their stodgy is because that shit only flies when you're good. I keep saying this about Joe Missoula. We say about Mike McDaniel, all that quirky shit.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm different. Look at me. I shitpost. You can do that when you're busting ass. When you're 500, when you're 3 and 7, can you imagine Dayball trying to do some shit like that? I can't imagine an NFL coach. of any kind behaving that way on social media. No, I can.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I can imagine him doing it if he were wildly successful. But success is what buys you the right and the latitude to do that sort of stuff. In the same way that Phil Jackson can burn incense in the locker room and give guys books. Like, you think that shit flies? If we're a 42 win team, for a 40 win team? Hell no. I don't get the hell out of my face. But when you're successful, they give you all the, the, the, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:50 affordability of those accolades to let you do whatever the hell you want. There are plenty of successful NFL coaches. There are none who have ever behaved that way. There are exactly zero who have used social media the way that Lane Kiffin is using it in college. Regardless, still new. Don Lebertard. World Rar 3. Stugats.
Starting point is 00:25:10 We're going to get that off the ground. World Rar 3, colon, our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one. This is the Don Levitar show with the Stugats. We've kept Matthew Barry. waiting and we shouldn't keep Matthew Berry waiting because he did it again last way. You need to like stop what you're doing and write Matthew Barry write down what he's telling you because Chris Olavé is making a catch one handed to make Matthew Barry's all Matthew Barry's numbers
Starting point is 00:25:38 come true. Let's go Matthew Barry. Let's get to it. Let's get these people some money. Give me some money. Thank you Dan. Since week five no team is allowed more fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks than the Jacksonville Jaguars. In fact for the five past five quarterbacks to face the Jags have scored at least 24 fantasy points. It's a list that includes Gino Smith and Davis Mills. Dude, Justin Herbert is going to go off this weekend. In three of the last four starts,
Starting point is 00:26:03 in three of the four starts he's made this season, Marcus Mario has had at least 16 fantasy points that includes two top 12 finishes. This week he faces the Dolphins. For the season, only one team in the NFL's a lot more rushing touchdowns to opposing quarterbacks than the Miami Dolphins. Since week four, Ashton Gentie,
Starting point is 00:26:17 averaging 19 touches a game. I mentioned 18, because running backs have seen at least 15 touches against Dallas, averaging 130 yards from scrimmage. 130 yards from scrimmage, they're averaging that. Since Joe Flackle became the starter, Chase Brown is the 11th best running back in fantasy football, set three straight games to at least 100 yards from scrimmage, played 95% of the snaps and 100% of the RB touches last week, Samadhii P. Ryan, dealing with that ankle.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Over the past two games, Amari Di Macardo, you heard me, Amari Di Macardo of the Cardinals, has 182 yards from scrimmage on just 22 touches. He's averaging nine yards per touch on the season, and in fact, 23% of his runs this year have gained at least 10 yards. Since week six, the 49ers are allowing the eighth most fantasy points per game to opposing running backs. I'm just saying you could do worse as a flex. Since week five, there's only been one game this year where Jalen Waddle didn't get at least 80 yards. We talked about him last week as well. He's averaging 18 fantasy points per game during that stretch.
Starting point is 00:27:10 My beloved commanders have given at least 20 fantasy points to an opposing wide receiver in four straight games four. So you're telling me a wide receiver against at least 25 fantasy points against the commanders this week. going to be Jalen Waddle. He's going to go off. Since week seven, Devante Smith has at least a 40% target share. Are you giving yourself around the horn? I'm sorry? Are you giving yourself around the horn
Starting point is 00:27:30 points? We're hearing something that, yeah, something is getting points there. Are you giving yourself points? I've given them points. No, I'll tell you, what, I'll tell you exactly what's happened, Dan. I'm embarrassed about this. But my phone is blowing up. It's my phone. Those are all
Starting point is 00:27:46 from my phone. My daughter's races. A wire on it broke. Um, and so I was late getting here to the studio. And so I've basically barely rushed in and made it. And, um, and so, uh, that's my daughter blowing up my phone right now. And I don't understand why my wife is not handling this. So, um, to be perfectly honest. Anyway, that's okay. We like, because I'm like, I have Dan show. I have to do the Dan show, honey. Can you, can you deal with our daughter and her face it? Because I dropped her off of the dentist. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry
Starting point is 00:28:18 Matthew Barry Cavante Smith is where we interrupted you Yes it's all good But yes Devante Smith 41% target share Dan And wide receivers that have seen at least 25% target share versus the Lions
Starting point is 00:28:32 As you're averaging over 20 fantasy points For game speaking of target share This season when Khalil Shakur gets at least A 20% target share He averages over 14 fantasy points for game Dalton Kincaid likely out this weekend For the Bucks middle of the field It's going to be all Shakur
Starting point is 00:28:46 worth noting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers allow the 7th most yards after the catch per reception. Get this, since week 7, the sixth best titan fantasy is Dalton Schultz. It's at least 13 fantasy points in three of the past four games. Davis Mills gets another start for the Texans he tends to look for Schultz quite a bit. There you go. Matthew, congratulations on the NBCSN news beginning next week. Thank you very much. We're excited.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We're excited. Hey, we'll see you there. We'll see you there because our show is also going to be on NBCSN. when it debuted on YouTube TV next week. That's up. Per the press release. Yeah. So congratulate Matthew on the specifics, though.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Tell the people the specifics of what it is that's happening with Matthew. Steve Martin also. His show is going to be on YouTube TV's new NBCSN linear channel. And per the press release, the Dale LepaTard show with Steve Gats will also be there. I'm bringing this sweater. That is not a smile that any of us enjoyed seeing from you. Matthew, take care of your priority. your life, your daughter, the braces.
Starting point is 00:29:48 We appreciate the money, but take care of your family, please. Yeah, no, I will. I will, Dan. Thanks for this. Excited to be on NBC. Another NBC platform with you guys. But what's great is, is that as soon as you guys interrupted me immediately, then, of course, you stopped blowing up my phone.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Shout out to life. There you go. Exactly. Around the horn. Good luck to everyone, you guys this weekend. We'll talk to you next week. If you're following what he's doing, it's pretty consistently six of the nine or seven of the nine or eight of the nine things that he's recommending end up happening. It's been happening
Starting point is 00:30:21 four weeks now. I mean, one final bow at the end of the week here on all of the Dallas and Nico and Luca conversation that has dominated sports, because it really is unlike most things you see when you've got a contaminated fan base and you've got Jason Kidd at the bottom of the rubble sort of telling fans, hey, you're making matters worse. and fans are lashing out with, we don't care that we're making matters worse, we will be heard. Like, it feels to me like Glenn Close and Fatal Attraction. I will not be ignored.
Starting point is 00:30:57 We're not going to be ignored about what this betrayal is. You will not make us feel this worthless. Were you quoting, what's that, fatal attraction? I will not be ignored, Michael. That is correct. Oh, wow. Steve Martin, she said. That's what I read.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's how I'm saying. Were you referencing? Yes, I said Glenn Close and fatal attraction. attraction. He literally said that. Okay. All right. You guys say, I mean, oh, you know, as far as you never agree. Yeah, okay. My bad. Hey, man, big on you to admit when you're wrong. Get the ball. It went off me, coach. It's, and it's Glenclosh. Do you have any new information for us here? Because you've been following this closely. You've been seeing how people are reacting to this. And it's, it's a calamity that you don't get to see very often. Well, I do have new information.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Because on Basketball Illuminati this week, we had Jason Gallagher on. Jason Gallagher, the executive producer of Mind the Game. He's the guy that was the executive producer of J.J. Reddick's podcast before Jay J.J. Reddick went to go coach. Old Man in the Three? Old Man in Three. There you go. And Jason Gallagher was once upon a time a Dallas massive super fan of the Mavericks, right? but the trading of Luca was the thing that
Starting point is 00:32:15 broke the camel's back and he, like Mike Ryan quitting the Browns, he quit his Mavs fandom. He lives in Oklahoma City so he decided to adopt the Thunder as his team which is pretty convenient in 2025. But he still has a lot of contacts
Starting point is 00:32:31 and connections in Dallas. And what he told us on basketball Illuminati, among other things, was that a certain familiar someone has started to re-enter the picture in Dallas. Makes a lot of sense. If you're Patrick Dumont, what do you have? You have a fractured fan base. They're angry. So you want what? You want to bring people back in. So the Mavericks have done a lot of things of nostalgia. They put the big M with the cowboy hat back on the
Starting point is 00:32:56 middle of the floor to get the fans back. But like, no, I need real nostalgia. I want something or someone to make people feel real warm and fuzzy. Sharks? Sharks. What are you proposing? Exactly. Mark Cuban has reemerged as perhaps going to be back in an official capacity beyond, oh, I just own part of the team. 27% owner is an official capacity. No, more than that. I'm talking about the room where the decisions are made, whoever the-the-shadowy hand, the room where it happens? It ain't no shadowy hand no more.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Wasn't he supposed to be there anyway? He was, and then he got pushed out, and he's like, you know what? And then they didn't talk to him at all on the Luca thing at all. And then this last weekend, before Nico got let go, my man picked up the phone. Patrick Dumontan said, Mark, can I talk to you about something? And then boom, boom, boom. Here we are, Nico's out. And the next step here is perhaps Mark Cuban back in the seat.
Starting point is 00:33:58 All right, let me present to you guys the thing that I was presenting earlier this week and just put it more plainly to you. because I know, because you guys have made fun of me, I remember where I was when the Clippers made the trade and the moves for Kauai and Paul George, because it felt like the next cheapest version of LeBron's decision. That, however it is that you had been affected by the transaction in sports,
Starting point is 00:34:28 when Kauai and Paul George held up free agency, it was the sequel to all the same. stuff that had happened with LeBron. And now in retrospect, as we continue to talk about a lucre trade that craters the Dallas franchise, I think we're running the potential of the next five years of this Clippers trade becoming worse and worse and worse. And I ask you when I put them both in front of you, because people did not object to the Clippers trying to stop being a laughing stock by mortgaging all of their future for the win now of James Harden, Kauai Leonard, Paul George, and all that. But because OKC has so many picks and because OKC has rigged the
Starting point is 00:35:12 system to take away the sport from the Celtics who had rigged the system offensively, we're going to take 53s a game and we're just going to be Derek White and Tatum and Brown are all going to take threes and take threes. They wrestle the sport away from with younger players, with more depth, and with more draft picks. When it's done, what's that Clippers trade going to be? A Clippers trade that many people listening to this like are, of course, you've got to get the superstar. If you're the Clippers, trade whatever you can to get the superstars, how bad a trade is this
Starting point is 00:35:47 going to end up being? Are we just at the beginning parts of this becoming an epically, historically bad trade? So, first and foremost, I wouldn't say the Celtics ever had a stranglehold on the sport. They played a style that was a gamble. And that gamble failed massively latched in the playoffs prior to Jason Tam going out of the injury. They were going to lose that series anyway because they were dogmatic and would not adjust to the realities. I don't think they ever had a stranglehold on the sport and certainly not to the level. They won a championship.
Starting point is 00:36:19 They won a championship. But that was a hurt Dallas Mavericks team on top of them. Even if they were healthy. The Mavericks weren't good enough to beat the Celtics. The Celtics were going to win that championship. Now, would they have won it? They've played against Denver? No.
Starting point is 00:36:31 No, my friend. But that doesn't matter. We don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal in reality, right? What makes OKC's deal, this is the part, right? That they're all under contract, for the most part. They're all of a certain age, so it's not like someone's getting older. They're right entering their prime.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So they have an opportunity right here in this window to be dominant in the way that you're describing. But what makes the deal especially bad. Because think about this is what they got in that deal, Oklahoma City. for Paul George. They got Shegelis Alexander, who became the MVP of the league and the finals MVP. They got a first-round pick that turned into Trey Mann that got traded. So, okay. They got a first-round pick that turned into Jalen Williams.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Another all-star. You're like, okay. They got a first-round pick that was protected. They turned into Hawkes and got traded to Miami. They had Dylan Jones, who's a first-round pick. It was like, okay, decent player. They had a first-round pick in Nick Clifford, who's okay. But this is the one.
Starting point is 00:37:27 This is the last year of obligation, folks, 2026, and there's a chance that this could be the most valuable piece, even more valuable than Shagel Gis Alexander. You know why? Because this pick unprotected goes to Oklahoma City, and the Clippers are having an awful season. So the Clippers, Dan, end up with a top four pick. I won't even limit it to one because one isn't really consensus right now. And you say, I'm the best team in the league. I'm the champion, I have a window, and you're going to give me one of these great names, whether it's Darren Peterson from Kansas or Cam Boozer from Duke or AJ DeBanza from BYU.
Starting point is 00:38:09 The kid from Baylor, too, is tough. He's good. Caleb Wilson from North Carolina. Like, there's a lot of names. It's like, you don't need to give me one. If you give me top four, I'm walking away with perhaps another generational talent. Dan, it's like when the Lakers got James Worthy. They're already great.
Starting point is 00:38:25 But I guess the question that I'm asking you, we've spent a lot of time talking about Luca and Nico. Is that trade going to end up being worse? I think, obviously, I think we can say they're getting more. They got an all-star, an MVP, and perhaps the number one overall pick. That's hindsight, though. We're redoing the history of visionist history on that because nobody thought SG was going to be MVP. But I'm asking you to take the result and use the result. Like the end results, it's a worse deal because of the volume of greatness you got
Starting point is 00:39:00 versus the Lakers got one great player in their deal. But the difference is, as Tony said, this one's a hindsight deal, whereas the Luca deal, on the day it happened, we all were asking Shams, did you get hacked? I know, but I do find it funny that in one instance, you've got Nico the expert and all of us disagree with it. In the other instance, there are plenty of people that agree. with the Clippers making the move, but the result is the team you made the move with is the youngest, deepest team, they've got the championship, they might repeat, they've lost one time this year, and they're going to get better.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Like, they're going to, all of their players are going to get better, and they're going to get better from future draft picks that they have. I think the big thing is that they were bad when they did that deal, whereas the Lakers, like, they already were a good team, and you gave them Luca, come on, man. Folks, the leaves are turning, the weather's getting a little chillier, that means, of football games are more important. That means football time should be Miller time.
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