The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Cannon From Magnum P.I.

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Dan sends himself to the penalty box as Amin, Jess, and Tony debate buying the cannon from Magnum P.I. and Amin's lifelong dream of owning a DeLorean. Then, Amin and Dan pay tribute to John Amos. Plus..., the greatest mustaches of all-time, Tony Tunite, and expectations for college referees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:22 app now to order your game day favorites. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugatz Podcast. You may be watching on YouTube, you may be watching on Peacock or Max, and you may have seen that we've got a Chicago watch party this weekend. It does not happen very often where God Bless Football and Stu Gotz and Billy make their way to your town. And we would like, because everywhere we tend to go, people who are really loyal to our show show up to support. We are telling you right now, Chicago, that Stu Gotz and Billy are making a God Bless
Starting point is 00:02:03 Football appearance on Sunday. It is a bit of a live stream watch party. I don't think Stu Gotz you guys have done this exactly where you're on our YouTube channel and during football on Sunday you guys with Matt Forte are going to be doing a show basically. It's kind of a live God bless football, right? It is, you'll get me right after the Jets-Vikings Sam Darnold revenge game, I'll be in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Tony's gonna be out there with us as well, so we're excited. This is, Dan, to answer your question, the first time Billy and I have done something like this. So Dan, it's a watch along livestream for the Bears and the Carolina Panthers October 6th at noon Central time 1 p.m Eastern of course Sunday at Joe's on weed 940 West weed streets to is also going to be on weed
Starting point is 00:02:52 Streaming live on the Levitard show YouTube channel 21 and older enjoy smear enough responsibly everything brought to you by spree enough by the way You could say this could only happen to a guy like him and that could only happen in a town like that. I Would think Jessica that you should be there instead of Tony. No my I know I had to respectfully decline because long long story personal stuff, however, I They're gonna have a great time. I'm so excited for them Chicago in the fall. Mmm. What a time I chose Tony Fair enough Jessica were you doing a reference? It was Frank Sinatra Were you doing a reference?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I didn't know either Did it hurt you to have to turn this down? Because that is your favorite city, is it not? Chicago, New York, love them both. Pittsburgh. Oh, Pittsburgh too. If you had one in Pittsburgh without me, oh, that would be devastating. But you know what, Dan, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:03:57 We all have to make sacrifices sometimes for our loved ones, our pets, for the things that we hold dear to us. And so I'm going to spend my Notre Dame bye week sitting on the couch instead of in Chicago. And that's my sacrifice to the show. Tony, did I hurt your feelings by saying that? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Imagine, I thought you were leaking confidence earlier in the show not listening to me and being like, oh, you know what? Tony actually has an idea, that sounds right. You do owe him an apology. At least the penalty box, at least. OK. No, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let's reverse it. Because if I would have gotten it wrong, my ass would have been in the penalty box. Como un cohete. You know what? Thank you, Dan. We've got a penalty. Five minutes.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Major asshole. Wow. Let's turn the tables for a second. Let's say we're all in Chicago doing a show and we are all traveling to Miami for a watch along and Dan would say, Tony, don't you think you should be there because you're from Miami. I wouldn't be offended in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I also have, I mean, a piece of information for you about Higgins Cannon in Magnum PI. You've been doing research. I have been doing research. So I think like Higgins, correct me if I'm wrong, he was like a British guy. He was in the army. He liked to like tinker wears army uniform and stuff like that He's also Magnum P. I's Butler. Correct. He was like the old stuffy Butler guy man servant. Yeah Probably probably not. I don't know Butler and it works. I don't know and Magnum P I was like flashy young hot shot American. Yes mustache as we all know anyway
Starting point is 00:05:27 Tigers hat True, so I saw I was trying to find the origins of Higgins cannon And I found on a the Magnum mania comm website all of that a little Citation about Higgins cannon which says it was a genuine 1890s signal cannon built by the strong firearms company of New Haven, Connecticut says it was a genuine 1890s signal cannon built by the strong firearms company of New Haven, Connecticut. The cannon was featured in a 2011 episode of Pawn Stars. It was valued between 20 and $40,000
Starting point is 00:05:54 after the cannon was fired. Rick Harrison of Pawn Stars made a final offer of $15,000. The seller wouldn't go lower than 35K, so no deal was made. And basically sounds like this cannon is out there if we want to purchase it. So we can buy it. We just need $35,000, so no deal was made. And basically sounds like this cannon is out there if we want to purchase it. So we can buy it. We just need $35,000.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I don't know if we need $35,000. It's 10 years ago, 15 years ago almost. But inflation now is probably worth more. The price is probably higher. No, no, no. I watch Antique Roadshow, guys. Oh, sorry. I know that this is one of my favorite things to do when I watch Antique Roadshow, is you see this thing and it's like, because sometimes they'll do updates, right?
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like this episode aired in 2013 and in 2013 it was valued at this and then you say, what do you think it is now? 2024 price and me and my dad will put in bets, like, okay, I think it's gonna be about this. And sometimes they go lower and it's because other things get found of that kind of that era.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It becomes less precious. It becomes less precious. Even if you found another cannon from the 1890s, it's not the one that Higgins blew off in Magnum PI. So this one has a very unique, what's the word I'm looking for? History. Yes, provenance I guess would be the word. Also he's been shopping it for 35K for 15 years,
Starting point is 00:07:06 maybe he's got no buyers. But also, Rick from Pawn Stars, notorious low baller. 15 is really, that's disrespectful. Always low balls, guy can never put a solid offer out there, it's always like, oh you've got this one of a kind thing that's worth so much money, I'll give you 10K for it. And you're like, no. Well the Pawn Stars have to make money too, Tony.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Sure, I get how the business works. Sounds like every fantasy owner I've ever tried to trade with. Oh, let me get your best running back for, you know, guys 789 on my roster. No. It's a hell of a deal. But I'm giving you three of them, three crappy guys for your best guys.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We saw the pawn stars building, me, Chris, and Lewis. Really? Yeah, in Vegas when we were at the show. We saw the Pawn Stars building. Me, Chris, and Louis. Really? Yeah, in Vegas when we were at the show. We were kind of cruising around Vegas doing our thing. And we were looking for a dispensary. We had also grand plans to do something content-wise with the Pawn Stars. And then it just turned to, let's find a dispensary.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Wow. Wow. Line of 13. If that's not the story of Metal Arch Media. Louis and I were looking for the dispensary. This big project, this idea, like we're in Vegas. We're on location. 13 if that's not the story of metal arc media Lewis, and I were looking for the dispensary this big Project this idea like we're gonna we're in Vegas. We're on location. Let's get with these people the celebrities They have a very successful show we'll create this whole piece of content this bit And then it devolves into just let's get high there's across the street
Starting point is 00:08:17 We don't have time why we were in the parking lot. We saw we're like whoa isn't that it and they're like yeah And they're like yeah, okay speaking of weed Joe's on weed Isn't that it and they're like, yeah, and they're like, okay speaking of weed Joe's on weed Crossover I'm not forte, you know, I'm just present enough. How'd you guys get Matt forte? That's a great question break us by the way the cat and you're right it is $35,000 still see at the the Ferrari from from Magn. I the one that he drove during the show is $181,000 right now. Yeah, you buy a new one. Mm-hmm. You know what that thing probably drives like shit for sure Yeah, but it doesn't matter what you're tapping into did someone love Magnum P I so much growing up and they have a lot of money
Starting point is 00:09:02 Are they willing to pay anything to get that Ferrari? Stugats, you know what's funny? Like, 180,000 for that Ferrari, I'm like, absolutely not. But if you told me 180,000 for the DeLorean from Back to the Future, I am absolutely, it's one of my- What is money at that point? I'm telling you, my entire adult life has been to become wealthy enough to buy a DeLorean and then have it retrofitted to look like
Starting point is 00:09:24 the Back to the Future DeLorean. That all everything I do. Do you know? Every time you guys say, I mean you work with them and that's you're speaking to too many microphones. Oh you work with them but you're flying them. It's like it's all because I'm building up to that DeLorean. A mean ass Doc Brown. Marty! Marty! You know DeLorean is coming out with a new DeLorean. No way. That looks like the old DeLorean. Wait, no. Look it up, it's electric. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:09:47 An electric DeLorean. Yeah. That's incredible. Do the doors still go up? They have to. Everything is the same on the DeLorean, it's just retro to new. Because I thought about,
Starting point is 00:09:58 I don't wanna drive an old ass DeLorean, right? So can you replace stuff under the hood so that people won't know? And Tony, from what's the sound of you saying is, that's exactly what happens. You get an electric DeLorean? I mean, that's pretty much what Doc Brown did. He went to the future, and he stopped it
Starting point is 00:10:14 from being a gas car, like so we just, or actually no, he stopped it from being a plutonium-driven flux capacitor. You can do with anything. It still runs on gas, my bad. But points still remains. That would be incredible. Did you see the DeLorean documentary on Max?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Did you like it? I loved it. Very good. Stugatsch, you'd appreciate it. A documentary? A scammer. A scammer. Oh yeah, I'm there.
Starting point is 00:10:38 A documentary about a scammer who made the DeLorean and still rings you. The name still means something to you you even though he just sort of a Invented like a bogus a bogus business around a visionary man. Leman Iacocca I did not expect a lia coca come lia coca lia coca joke coming liam and Iacocca. Yeah, no, I got it Thank you. Just making sure you got it. That's all Came out of nowhere I understand if we're gonna do that time the time of the DeLorean the person I would like to talk about From about that time period since Amin has now become our expert on all in the family and the Jeffersons
Starting point is 00:11:15 And Magnum PI I did want to stop for a second to talk about the the death of John Amos At John Amos is the father in good times. I don't know if any of you know that name So I believe for most people that his most recognizable role would be Cleo McDowell from coming to America a hundred percent You think so absolutely over doubt over the father in good time. All right, put her on the pole, please John Amos is Most famous role choose between those two because I associate him simply as the father from Good Times. Because he's also in one of the Die Hard movies. Yes, he is, Die Hard 2.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So I guess these are his biggest roles, right? Father from Good Times, Coming to America, Kunta Kinte in Roots, right? These are like the seminal, that's the holy trinity of John Amos' roles. Obviously he's in a lot of other things. But good times, he wasn't on that show that long then. Because if you remember, James Evans dies, right?
Starting point is 00:12:14 And then Florida Evans has to raise a family by herself. Now the reason behind that speaks to a lot about who John Amos is as a person and as an actor. He was first of all, he's a former professional football player, I don't know if you guys know that. I did not. Like Carl Weathers, like a lot of other, like Jim Brown, he played football.
Starting point is 00:12:33 When he first broke in, he was a comedy writer. He wrote on the Leslie Uggum show, right? And so the producers were like, this dude has good timing, let's put him on camera, and that's how he became an actor. Now here's where it gets really crazy. So John Amos, this is in the 70s, is an actor. He's turning down roles, why? Because he's like, I don't wanna play
Starting point is 00:12:57 stereotypical black roles. I don't wanna be a pimp. I don't wanna be a drug dealer or junkie or whatever. I want to be, why can't want to be a pimp. I don't want to be a drug dealer or junkie or whatever. I want to be, you know, why can't I just be, you know, a regular thing? So he is on Maud, which is another Norman Lear show. He's married to Florida Evans. Florida Evans is a smaller bit part on that show.
Starting point is 00:13:20 They decided to make a spinoff, which is Good Times. And obviously it's the story of a black family living in allegedly Cabrini Green, one of the toughest projects in the nation, and his whole thing is like, this is my opportunity to play a nuclear black family that's not broken up, that's not split up, that shows its loving or whatever. It was important to him to represent black people in a way that wasn't caricature or stereotype at a time that he was a pioneering black actor because there weren't that many,
Starting point is 00:13:54 there weren't, nevermind black shows, Good Times is one of the first, I don't even, what would be the first black show? Leslie Uggums having a show is also, I mean there's a couple, but you're right, there aren't, forget about black shows, there aren't a lot of black roles, right? Imagine in a time when there aren't that many roles
Starting point is 00:14:10 and you're sitting here and saying, I'm not doing that one, right? There's a, if you guys, now we're really gonna get old, Hollywood Shuffle was this Robert Townsend movie that came out in the 80s about the struggle of black actors keeping their dignity while still getting work. And there's this big scene where
Starting point is 00:14:26 they're auditioning for a scene for a pimp. And the guy in the waiting room tells Robert Townsend, this is bullshit, I can't believe they're making us do this. You're better than that, you're stronger than that. You don't have to demean yourself. And he's giving them his pep talk, and Robert Townsend's like, I don't know why I'm doing this role.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And then the lady says, you know, Michael Smith. And he's like, that's me. And the guy runs up, the guy was trying to talk him out of it. So John Amos was doing this shit for real, turning down these roles for real. And good times are supposed to be this family and their struggles, but they're trying to, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:55 trying to make it. And then J.J. Walker, Jimmy Walker, who plays J.J. Evans becomes a star because he's got the catchphrase, he's the comic relief in this kind of sometimes heavy show, and the writers, who are all white, are like, well, let's lean a little bit more towards dynamite over here with his catchphrase and his silly clothes and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So Amos is stuck in the position where his show is doing a little bit of caricature and he's getting into the shadows on somebody who's usurping him by white writers writing a role that is cartoonish for kid dynamite. Exactly. And the bigger thing is he's like, well, the Evans family has three kids, and one of them wants to be a doctor, and the other one wants to be a lawyer. And even JJ wants to be an artist. Like that's a central thing about like how he cares about his art, but it's all devolving into just get rich quick schemes and again all these stereotypical like
Starting point is 00:15:52 lazy black teenager stuff. So John Amos fights with Norman Lear, he gets fired. They write him out of the show saying James died. And that's why he was only on for like two seasons. I didn't know that. And one of the most famous scenes in there is Florida Evans yelling, damn, damn, damn, when he dies.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't know if you know this, and I don't know the details. Maybe the shipping container can find some of this. Evidently, John Amos died before James Earl Jones. Died in August. Yeah, died in August. You died in August. We didn't find out until two days ago. Untilied in August. Yeah, died in August. You died in August. We didn't find out until two days ago.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Until it was just put out, and we don't know why. That hasn't come out. We don't know why. We don't know why the purpose of that being withheld. Maybe it was just the family being secretive or private, maybe there's something else going on. You like talking about the old TV shows. One of the things that has stunned me around here is that Jessica is not just a fan of
Starting point is 00:16:49 Colombo. I'm learning now all of a sudden that she wants to head to Detroit because unbelievably they have a Magnum P.I. night where everyone's going to have a ridiculous mustache that only Tom Selleck can pull off. Nobody else can pull off that particular mustache. Burt Reynolds? I mean, that's a ridiculous thing to say, Dan, especially while mustaches are so in style.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I mean, have you seen Paul Skeens, for example? I have, but that mustache is pathetic compared to the Magnum PI mustache. What about Tony? I'm just saying, there's probably thousands of men listening to this podcast right now with a mustache, who you just personally insulted. It's not an insult to say you can't rock
Starting point is 00:17:30 the Magnum P.I. mustache the way Magnum P.I. did. There's no insult in that. But you haven't seen it, so how do you know? How do you know? Because no one can do it. Wait a second. Carl Weathers. Stu Gotz, back me up here.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Carl Weathers' mustache? He could do it. He did it. He did it. He did. To your point, Magnum PI legendary show, they once did a crossover episode with Murder, She Wrote, one of my favorite shows, Jessica Fletcher, my namesake, Angela Lansbury, bless her,
Starting point is 00:17:58 God rest her soul, you guys just ignored her death a couple years ago, didn't say anything about her, ignored Maggie Smith's death, the beautiful and wonderful Maggie Smith, one of the best actresses of our lifetime. Dame Maggie Smith to you. Love Violet, the Dowager Countess. I love Maggie Smith, Professor McGonigal,
Starting point is 00:18:15 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And you guys just gloss over that. Murder Churro is one of the greatest shows of our life. Cabot Cove, I'd like to go there, that's a spooky place. That is a spooky, why do people keep dying in Cabot Cove, I'd like to go there. That's a spooky place. That is a spooky, why do people keep dying in Cabot Cove? I would like to know. Stugat, as we talk about CBS programming, I was delighted, because we've been making fun
Starting point is 00:18:33 of this for years. Do you realize that because they do things like Murder, She Wrote, because CBS is all about Angela Lansbury, no matter how much we blaspheme against her and Jessica by not talking enough about Angela Lansbury. Are you aware Stugatz that CBS is presently in production with Kathy Bates in a remake of? Matlock! Matlock!
Starting point is 00:18:59 What? There's a Matlock remake but she- Kathy Bates! Her name's Matlock but she's not related to Matlock remake, but she... Kathy Bates. Her name's Matlock, but she's not related to Matlock. I wanted it to be like Matlock's niece or cousin or something like that. No, they make a point of like, no, not like that, Matlock, but yes, it's Matlock. But Dan, I haven't seen it, but I know there is a huge twist. There is a huge twist.
Starting point is 00:19:20 There's something fishy going on with the Matlock reboot and Kathy Bates' character. I'm not going to spoil it for people. You know what the twist is. I know what the twist is. It's a good twist There's there's good stuff going on in the matlock. I haven't seen it Damn, but it's on my list for when the stupid Mets lose Dan by the way Eddie Murphy another great mustache Which brings us back to John Amos and coming to America John Amos as I said play Cleo McDowell who run McDowell's, which had nothing. Treponur, by the way, family man and Treponur. Also had nothing to do with McDonald's, right?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Nothing. Completely different. How are you pronouncing that word, Tony? Entrepreneur. Okay, it just sounded like you cut off the N and just started it with a T. Treponur. Family and Treponur.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Silent N, Dano. They've got the golden arches, We've got the golden arcs. They've got the Big Mac. We've got the Big Mick. Now, see, they both have two old beef patties, special sauce and lettuce, cheese. But what's the difference? They have the sesame seed buns.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Ours have no seeds. Exactly. Look, I don't think we can correct Tony for at least the rest of the week. He got the writing on the wall thing close enough to accurate. He did. And sort of pulled it out of his ass. And I think we should, honestly,
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm gonna give him a standing ovation. You know what? I'll do better than that. I'll give him a standing ovation and I will give him a featured segment right now. I wanna do a Tony tonight where he gets the whole, where he gets the whole floor for himself because I feel so ashamed for
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Starting point is 00:26:05 this it's the best one I'm planning right here um 137 E.Coraway. I have to show you the real stuff okay right here this is Cuban rocket cake notice it comes in a small cup usually a coffee it's huge right you order the best thing wherever your favorite coffee place is. All you need for Cuban rocket fuel is this right here. Somebody comes. Here we go. You get a little cup like this. This is very important. You have to be able to squeeze the cup right? So you can get the stuff out. Look at that a pumita. That pumita is the sugar foam on top. Incredible. So you like this and all you take little dusty all you take is one shot that right there this is this is cuban breakfast in the mornings this is why this is so important
Starting point is 00:26:53 you walk in on a saturday this place is stacked look at this guy ready he's excited i'm excited i'm gonna take all this stuff home you guys have to get your own part all right we're here with ventanita royalty la dueña the owner of ila canarias nancy nancy we're here with Ventanita Royalty, La Dueña, the owner of Ilas Canarias. Nancy, Nancy, we're going to do this in Spanglish. Is that okay? Awesome. And we're going to keep it real for the people in Miami, but also for Los Gringos, we're going to make sure that we subtitle it.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Nancy, Las Croquetas aquí son lo mejor del mundo. ¿Por qué? Porque están hechas con amor, están hechas con amor y están hechas con la receta de mi padre. Wow. De hace 60 años. with love, they are made with love and they are made with my father's recipe from 60 years ago. We have been changing, making some adjustments for the specific flavor of Miami, but they have the recipe and the love of the Andrade Garcia family. When you do things with love, they taste better than anything else.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Love is the most powerful ingredient of all. That's right. And why the little window here? Why? In the 137th and Corway? This is the center of Kendall. This is the center, the heart of our area of West Miami. Here we have clients from 35 years ago, which was when we opened here.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But the Canary Islands actually have 45 years of originality. Like in the 47th and 147 1947, where is Alex Lomero? I believed in him. So for me, here on a Saturday, to get croquetica, pastelito, tostada, that was part of my upbringing. You know, and when you hear that story from the people of the community, how do you feel? I feel very humble. We are now serving the third generation of our original customers. When we started in 1977, those customers were not customers, they were family.
Starting point is 00:28:37 They had their children and now they have their children. They are the grandchildren of our original customers. They are our customers now. And that gives us a lot of joy, a lot of pride, and we are pleased to serve them. It is a very close relationship that we have with the community. You see that I am doing weight, that I want to eat delicious, but I can't stop eating this. No, but this is the protein bar from Miami. You can't stop eating that.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You can eat all of them. You have more strength. Cuban food. Come here. To the Canary Islands. Come. Come all. My people! A real star turn for Tony here, earned confidence. He walks around with what has looked like in the past a little bit, you know, a little bit of unearned confidence. But today, a real star turn, Tony. Congratulations. You're having a hell of a day. The star was La Croqueta de la Canaria. Those are the stars. It's easy to be the co-star
Starting point is 00:29:41 when the star of the show is Los Pastelitos, El Cafecito, La Croquetica. Is Jessica familiar with all of this? Is she taste it? I don't think she's gone that far down. I don't think she's gone down to 137th and core away the hood, okay? Like Alex Rodriguez likes to say. Sorry, Stugatz's headset is so loud
Starting point is 00:29:58 that I can hear it echoing in my own headset. He cannot hear anymore. He has distorted all parts of his face, voice. Yes, I don't know why you put on Stugatz own headset. Yeah, he cannot hear anymore. He has distorted all parts of his face, voice. Yes, I don't know why you put on Stugatz's headset. Anytime anyone puts on Stugatz's headset, it is way too loud. But Jessica, I'm surprised, yesterday, many people enjoyed how you put the Miami show in its place
Starting point is 00:30:23 by explaining to them that Halloween treats at a tailgate is something that Miami was underestimating. Really? It's greatness, yes. Jessica was getting a lot of applause for that yesterday, but I do believe you would like Miami slightly more if you had just one of these croquetas, just one. All right, I'll give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Have you had croquetas in general? Yeah, we had the guy that came and made them for us. From Ilocanaria. Is it possible to put something like a, perhaps a piece of candy corn on the end to make it look like a spooky finger? Because then I may be. You could. Or perhaps two olives to make spooky little eyes.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Olives, no, that's empanadas, you put that in the beef, that's a different story. Just thinking, I'm just spit balling here. Could we wrap it in prosciutto and put it in the shape of a severed hand? You are doing too much with the croqueta. The croqueta by itself is a magical thing that doesn't need any extra anything.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It doesn't need any extras. Just the way God intended, Dan-o. Just a tube of meat fried. Before he started writing on that wall, he was like, you know what? Croquetas. That was the writing on the wall. We have Jen CFB later in the show with you and Lucy,
Starting point is 00:31:35 what do we have to look forward to there? Because we have not talked very much college football this week. You had to be really hoping, because we have not talked to you about this either, that that Virginia Tech touchdown would have stood and that Miami would have been robbed by a bad call at the end of the game and that Mike Ryan would have been horrified and would have been still.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Bad call! That was the greatest call of all time. The ball was moving, I could see from Kendall the ball was moving 800 times, the guy was out of bounds and touched it. I would have assumed that Jessica would have been rooting for that to end in a Miami loss on a bad call. We would have all known it was a bad call and still Miami would have lost because of it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No, that's not how you felt. Today on Jen CFB, we had a jam-packed episode. We handed out September awards. And we handed out an award to a group of people. It's called the Our Expectations Were Low But Holy Shit Award. And that group included ACC refs because they were on a heater this weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:37 They had some rough moments. Let's say this, they did not cover themselves in glory. And neither did the big 10 refs. There was a big debacle at the end of the Michigan-Minnesota game. So we covered all of that in Gen CFB. We also handed out our September Heisman Trophy. We handed out the award for the best game,
Starting point is 00:32:53 which, spoiler alert, it was the Alabama-Georgia game this past Saturday. That game ruled. And yeah, we had a really good time on this week's episode. I think people will really enjoy it. I am curious, that's at the end of the show today in the post game. I am curious, I mean, if you are in agreement with me
Starting point is 00:33:10 on this, because we've talked a lot about officiating. I expect, in the coming weeks, for enormous consequences to result from bad officiating, where people get really mad because important stakes and games are being decided because of the following. In pro sports, everything is moving so fast with the professional athletes that what is alleged to be the very best of officiating can't keep up
Starting point is 00:33:41 and we've got so much technology with the games that we're all watching every little bit of minutiae, and some of these games are being decided by very little, so baseball, basketball, football, at the top of sports has more complaining about the officiating that I can remember, even though historically we've always complained about the officiating,
Starting point is 00:34:01 but haven't had this kind of technology to see how often the people are wrong. If you keep going down in sports, making the officiating a little bit worse because the best are at the top of professional sports where the money is, if college football is getting so giant, so giant that it feels like professional football on Saturdays, it feels like you're getting in Alabama, Georgia, something that people are watching and caring about the same way they care about the most professional of football.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Does it not stand to reason that we're headed to a place where the officiating cannot keep up in college sports with the stakes and the interest and the technology, that this is going to keep getting worse and worse, and that the officials aren't going to be able, these are all people with second jobs, I mean. These are people who are doing this in their spare time. At Hockley as a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And if it can't be done perfectly at the professional level, how is it going to be done perfectly or better at the semi-professional level? This is what I would say, I would say, maybe I'm wrong. You guys can correct me on this. I don't feel like college football is bigger now because of whatever reasons, NIL or realignment or anything, I think it's as big a business
Starting point is 00:35:12 as it's always been. I just mean the interest, the interest keeps growing. But I think the bigger thing is not the growth in the interest, the bigger thing driving well is this technology. It's that it used to be, oh, he touched, like the ball moved, oh, the ball didn't move or whatever. But now we have used to be, oh, he touched, like the ball moved, the ball didn't move or whatever. But now we have eight zillion, eight K cameras or what is it? Three thousand
Starting point is 00:35:31 K cameras that can pick up with great clarity, something that the human eye cannot pick up, let alone pick up in real time. And so we're all sitting at home saying, well, clearly it moved, but we expect them to get it right. It's the reason why I think replay sucks, right? Like I think it robs some of this stuff. And some of the stuff, obviously someone steps out of bounds, steps out of bounds, right? But when we're talking about the athletes are so good
Starting point is 00:36:03 that it is the prestige they're pulling off. That's part of the game, man. The part of the game is getting away with shit. I'm kind of with you. Like, it's it's got to be an incredibly difficult job. I don't think anyone disputes that. But like, you're sort of blending in the human error element in football, where you are spotting the ball, usually just with the naked eye,
Starting point is 00:36:23 with the replay element. And it just must be impossible to do that and to be using the chains in 2024 when you can watch a replay. And then the aspect of it that gets so frustrating is how much it slows the game down to constantly be replaying. And these games are already long.
Starting point is 00:36:40 The game that I went to this week in the Notre Dame Louisville game, oh my God, it was so long. And thank God I filled up during my tailgate because I was sustained on dips throughout all four hours of that thing. But there were so many replays, a lot of injury timeouts too,
Starting point is 00:36:56 and it just dragged onto four hours by the time it was over. And that's why I think people get so frustrated with the referees. It's not just because the calls are inconsistent it's because sometimes Like in the Miami Virginia Tech game you wait seven minutes to find out if it's a touchdown Oh, they had to go back to wherever they were Cicacas or I don't know if it was the college of Charlotte or wherever The ACC is but the point is when you talk about Dan like the the top of the
Starting point is 00:37:19 Roughing profession a lot of these calls these guys are getting right With the bang bang plays, with looking at it, with spotting, like they're doing an incredible job on the field in real time. They just need that extra help for stuff that the ball moves when there's eight guys trying to catch a Hail Mary or was his foot out of bounds at the exact specific time that it needed to be or not?
Starting point is 00:37:39 So what Tony's saying is absolutely right. The other, I mean, like the NBA goes through this all the time, they're grading their refs on it, their accuracy, and they, by and large, are very accurate. It's the ones that they miss that people go nuts on, and that's another part of it. It's we're hyper-focused on when did you let me down versus all the times you got it right,
Starting point is 00:37:56 and then gambling, obviously there are more stakes. It used to be my team lost, now it's like you lost me money. There are all these other added forces, but then I would argue this, maybe not for the gamblers, you lost me money. There are all these other added forces. But then I would argue this, maybe not for the gamblers, but for everybody else. If we had fully automated officiating, I submit to you, it would be more boring. We would not enjoy what we're watching as much as we do,
Starting point is 00:38:20 knowing that there is a way to kind of subvert a human being into thinking, oh no, I didn't touch it. I like having someone to blame. Put it on the poll, put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show, do you like having someone to blame? Other than yourself. Dana White was saying here recently that, and this is subjective sports,
Starting point is 00:38:43 judging that it's more subjective than what it is that we're talking about. He's saying that he's looking forward to the day where he can do all of the officiating and mixed martial arts with AI, not having judges, replacing judges with technology that can replace judges. But when we talk about this particular stuff on the technology, you do realize that on Monday night in that Dolphin Titan game, I saw something I've never seen before, which is on a punt that we couldn't tell even on replay, who touched it first?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Was it Tennessee or was it the Dolphins? It's a fumble. And in that game, they were just trading field goals. At that point it seemed like that was a disastrous mistake that was going to change the result of the game and I still don't actually know having seen 10 replays in slow motion who touched the ball first. I know the ruling the ruling they made but I still don't know with all of the technology and we will blame them for getting it wrong in real time And then getting it wrong on replay even though I'm watching something
Starting point is 00:39:50 I've never seen before that one did also take a really long time But I mean my in retrospect we were so naive we were so naive thinking that was a pivotal moment in the game We were so naive to think that any of that mattered. That's true So I'm gonna ask my refs here, because obviously you guys are all professional referees. So if the team that's receiving the ball touches it first while they're on defense, does that mean the ball is dead? So Kaleus Campbell got his hand and actually partially
Starting point is 00:40:18 blocked that ball while he was on defense. So it didn't touch it when he was on offense. So does that mean that the Dolphins can pick up the ball and then fumble it and not be a fumble? No, because they had ruled that Tennessee got that ball and it wasn't because another Dolphin had touched it. I understand what it is that you're saying. Kaleus Campbell tipped the punt and it was partially blocked and you're asking whether or not they can then the Dolphins can then just take the ball and run it without impunity.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Without no they they would be fun no they as soon as they touch the ball they can then fumble it. The way that the Dolphins would be able to advance without impunity is if the Titans touch it first I think. Is it with impunity or without impunity because I'm confused about that. I don't know. I'm doubly confused. You're the one who said No, Jeremy you came in here and you made it more confused. Everybody else is googling
Starting point is 00:41:09 I'm just trying to help you were 12, but you didn't help you you made it worse Okay, and you did it is bad. It's like what I do We know is good. You did it without impunity You need to do it with impunity without impunity is a double negative if punity is bad impunity is good without impunity means we're taking away the thing That's good. It's bad then so it's just punity. I don't think there's such a thing as puny without punity I should with impunity. What is the writing on the wall say? It was hard. That's why they had to bring in Daniel remember Daniel for the Lions then they had to bring him in so he could Read what it was that God wrote in the wall, and it was bad for Belshaw by the way Daniel
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