The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Chick-Fil-A Of The NBA

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Izzy has a new nickname for Anthony Edwards, and his star continues to rise through Starting 5. Then, Jessica couldn't stop watching Lord of the Rings, Taylor hurt himself training for a 6-minute mile, and Izzy decides to take a victory lap for something that he's been wrong about thus far... Plus, Stugotz is starting to love the 12-team College Football Playoff, and who's in 2nd place to Ol' Crimson at College GameDay? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just one, huh? Things his wife learned while watching the Netflix show Starting Five, is that right? Yep. And I don't remember what they were, but it was a very memorable top five. And I'll tell you the one thing that I've just kind of like landed on.

I'm calling Anthony Edwards Chick-fil-A, because I really wanna hate him. I really, really wanna dislike him. But just like those Chick-fil-A sandwiches where they put just the right amount of MSG to just hook you on them, Anthony Edwards is addicting. Anthony Edwards has everything you want out of a superstar despite the fact that he had that one incident

where he videotaped himself rolling down the windows and seeing a bunch of guys going into a gay bar saying what has the world come to. So clearly he's got some chick-fil-a in him. But he's so good. And the second they interview him, I'm just like, I forgot everything he said in the past and I just wanna follow this guy.

He is so entertaining. And normally these young guys who you think didn't take college seriously, they're just coming to the league and just showing off their skills. Normally they're not this combination of polished and humorous. And just everything he talks about,

you feel like he's telling you the truth, he's keeping it real, but he's doing it in an efficient and funny way, and I'm so jealous of Minnesota. Now I wanna figure out what my Chick-fil-A is. I think it's Keeping Up With The Kardashians, because man, I love watching that stuff, even though I know it's not good.

But do the, I mean, but they don't like, like give money to hate groups, do they? Well, neither does Anthony Edwards. I'm playing the game of like, why am I allowed, like, you just made hit Anthony Edwards. You're playing apples to apples is what you're doing. But in the same way that I call Chick-fil-A homophobic chicken, I can call Anthony Edwards homophobic superstar. And I'm not saying he's homophobic. I'm just saying he had that one thing. He's got a couple things But you know, yeah, it is what a couple of things

I still haven't gotten to the episode where he's running through a hospital in his oh, that's a great episode I haven't gotten there yet. Very dramatic It's it's a little bit drawn out, but he has a kid in the season and that's what he's going to That's that's what he's going to. Oh, that's what it was. That's what he's going to the hospital for. Izzy, you are very forgiving. I mean, just if a guy's good and he entertains you, that's it. I am not very forgiving, in fact. I have, for example, never seen a show

that Chris Broussard is on, ever, since he exposed himself as being who he is. And so him I will not forgive, but Anthony Edwards, man. Like, here's the thing about Edwards is, I just think he's a little naive, maybe, informed on certain things. I mean, why would you videotape yourself saying that to begin with?

It's just, you know, the act of an immature human, and based on what I see from him, seems like he has growth potential. And so, I feel like, you know what? I don't know what he went through afterward and everything that he had to do to save his image from that situation. I just saw, you know, I don't know what he went through afterward and everything that he had to do to save his image From that situation. I just saw you know an official apology or whatever

But if he did learn from that then there is nothing to hate about him at least in my book I think in starting five you realize some of the undertones as you watch throughout the entire season the ten episodes you realize He's immature. He's a kid right he's's 20 something years old like he's he doesn't have those like That knowledge of all right. Let me do this. Let me say this is the right thing to do like LeBron It's it's the perfect dichotomy because you have LeBron who's mr. Perfect image who's mr. Say everything right do everything right? Here's the picture I'm holding you know hands with Obama. I'm here with kids like everything is perfect right? Yes, right, so it's like you look at that and you look at Anthony Edwards, you're like, the skill is close, right?

When you can push out his trajectory. But then the immaturity is there, and you see it with him having a kid. There's just like some things where you're like, oh, wait. He's still a kid himself. It's why that ending of the first episode of Starting 5 was so perfect. Because you've got LeBron coming off a win in Miami,

it's toward the end of his career, he's talking about how I always wanna be the best, I haven't seen anyone who's in better shape than me, and then they cut to a Lamborghini revving, and then you hear Anthony Edwards' voice in the background, you see him walking into the stadium, but you don't see his face. And you just hear him saying, essentially,

I don't look up to anybody in the league. There's nobody better than me. Of course I want to school LeBron one-on-one. And then the final cut is just to his face smirking at the camera. Cut, roll the credits. It's as well done as a hype to go to a next episode could possibly be. The only thing about that that bugged me

is if we fast forward to the end of that season, he's talking about KD and how much he loves playing against him. Yeah, of course. So he does look up to a few people. But I will say this feels like sort of a lifetime achievement situation for LeBron, one of the many, right? Because on this show, he is able to show us

how many songs he knows every word to. Like this has been something that people- That opening episode, what are we doing? Let's be honest, Tony, you've learned enough hip hop songs that you wanna show off. If somebody were just like playing the song, it'd just be like, oh, I got this, and you would just go off and spit every single word.

LeBron has been waiting for this every minute of his life. Like, he is singing along to songs from, like, 1999. He's going through a 30-year catalog. What's the song that surprised you the most, in terms of him knowing the words? I don't think none of them surprised me. I'm surprised that he started off with Jay-Z in such an old song.

Yes. Like, I would have thought maybe a little bit something more modern, maybe a little Kendrick since he's having a moment, although he didn't really have the moment last year yet. So maybe some J. Cole. Yeah, maybe Little Baby was definitely having a moment in 23. So I would say I'm surprised his choice. But it's the least surprising thing about that show

that about 30% of it is just LeBron rapping. Watch me in the back of a very expensive car rap every word to a song that maybe some of you have never heard before. You know who doesn't know a word to a single song? Michael Jordan. How about that? He was consumed with winning championships.

He didn't have time to listen to music. He was just listening. What about in the clip in the last dance where he's listening to music? Yeah, but he doesn't know the words. Yeah, and he's retired. No, it was in Barcelona. Oh, after his play. Doesn't know the words, yeah. Right, right. And he's retired, yeah. No, it was in Barcelona. Oh, yeah, Olympics.

Does it count, Olympics? No, you don't have to take it that seriously. Kind of like a vacation for the Olympics. You can never question Michael. And he's starting five because I spent my whole week binge watching the second season of the Amazon Lord of the Rings show. And to be honest, coming into work today,

because I just finished it last night, it's been a little hard to think about sports because that really consumed me for the last four days. And to be honest, coming into work today, because I just finished it last night, it's been a little hard to think about sports, because that really consumed me for the last four days. I would imagine anybody who's never watched that show or is not a big Lord of the Rings fan, but is a fan of this show would equate that to just spending hours of listening to Jeremy

dissect the Miami Heat. Damn. I think you insulted both of us. Also, I think that we need to, actually, I think Izzy, you specifically need to apologize to Jeremy because I heard before the show, you guys talking about, we're not gonna do this the way we do it when Dan's here. We're not just gonna like,

Jeremy, tell us what we like about the heat. Let's just take a big steamy dump all over it, even though I asked you to do it, which is what the normal dynamic here is. The normal dynamic is, Jeremy, we want you to talk about this. By the way, while you're talking about the thing we asked you to talk it, which is what the normal dynamic here is. The normal dynamic is, Jeremy, we want you to talk about this. By the way, while you're talking about the thing we asked you to talk about, we're gonna make you feel like shit about it. It's the last two years, baby.

And then we ended up just doing it anyways, and I feel a little bad, even though the power of friendship did actually make me laugh out loud. It's because we try to go into every one of these, we're like, all right, we're gonna give him a chance here. And then he starts- The power of friendship is strong between me and Jeremy. And then he starts, and we just can't control ourselves. There was just something in the middle of that where I was just like, wow,

there's somebody in Minnesota right now thinking, why am I still listening to this? Because I don't care about the Miami Heat. That's why I had the wordy title, which was top five reasons to be optimistic about the Heat. If you want to be optimistic about the Miami Heat, not just to do it, but here we are. That same guy in Minnesota,

we got him back with Anthony Edwards though. Oh yeah, we did. That's a good point. So Lord of the Rings, that's a movie about Michael, right? Yeah. You're half right. It's a series, a series about Michael. I feel like that would be equating him to Sauron,

which would mean that he's evil. All right, Jess, let it out. Like, go ahead, every Lord of the Rings fan, all three of them that are listening, they want to connect with you about this. I, go ahead. Every Lord of the Rings fan, all three of them that are listening, they want to connect with you about this. All three, I did a Q and A on my Instagram story yesterday and I'll tell you, a lot of-

I had 14 questions. There were hundreds of questions from Levitard's show. From two people. Lord of the Rings fans. I will say, one of my favorite questions was, hey, I don't really like Lord of the Rings. Should I watch the show? No.

If you don't like Lord of the Rings. No, if you don't like it Lord of the Rings. Should I watch the show? No. If you don't like Lord of the Rings. If you don't like it, that's ass. You should not watch the Rings of Power on Amazon. But yeah, I mean, that's all I got. You guys aren't interested in it and that's fine. I'm just letting you know. I'm playing with a little bit of- Jeremy, that's how you read a room.

You asked for it! I asked for one. I'm playing a little distracted today. I know there's a big college football weekend ahead. We previewed it on Gen CFB yesterday. You could check it out in the podcast or on YouTube. And we tried to do as much college football as we could in 24 minutes, which is always a difficult ask.

But this morning I came in. I know there's an NFL game tonight. I know there was college football last night. I watched the Troy game two nights ago, but this whole week it's just been hard to focus on football because I really have just been watching a lot of Lord of the Rings. You can't stay awake for like the second half

of a Monday night football game. How late are you staying up watching this addictive television show? I actually timed it perfectly last night, so season eight ended, and then I went straight into Liberty Links, which was just a really weird emotional, like emotional high, and then like,

okay, I'm watching basketball now and then emotional high again at the end of that. And that ended around like, I want to say like 10, 10, 15. And I went straight to bed. It was actually perfect timing for me. I'm not going to lie. I'm getting pretty good at this. Howdy listener.

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This is the Don Lebatard Show with the StGuy. You know, we were talking preseason basketball and... Why? I know, right? Speaking of perfect timing, I was on Oddball with Amin Elhassen. Charlotte was not on the show that day, or not on the segment with me. And we were talking about Zach Eady. That's odd.

The big. He looks good. Looks good. Big rookie from Purdue. Post moves look nice. I mean he looks big, he looks big. He looks huge. I haven't seen post moves since the 80s.

I'm telling you, I saw like a two minute cut of him. Looks good. Yeah. Well that's great because on Oddball, we said he was gonna suck. I mean and I both basically said the same thing we've seen him in the NBA before there's just no way That's gonna work to plotting can't really defend in the new age where you have to switch and everything else Hasn't hit a three yet. Oh for four

I believe even though they thought he was gonna spread the floor they think he will spread the floor for them He didn't take any threes in college, which I understand doesn't mean he doesn't have the skill set, but it's just a practice, right? You don't do it in games, you're not just gonna all of a sudden start doing it especially well. So despite the fact that he's had like some good games here, like a 10 for 15 game, I know I'm right about this. Like there's zero question in my mind. Tony, if you as an avid NBA watcher believes that he is going to be great,

I think you're no longer, I don't think you're a smart basketball fan at that point. I think you're kind of a don't. Real Hoopers know that the moment that he gets out onto a floor and there's a switch between whoever is guarding Luca and him and then all of a sudden he has to guard Luca at the three point line, it's over.

Never have I been so sure despite being proven wrong. Like I am 1000% confident that this man will not be, let's say, an impact rotation player this season for the Memphis Grizzlies. I think he will start in the rotation, but I think by, I don't know, 15, 20 games in, he'll be off the rotation. So if I, I just want to be clear on your stance here.

If I have the audacity to think Zach Eady is going to be good, you're telling me before he's played a single regular season game that I'm wrong? I'm telling you that you are wrong 1,000% and I am right despite the fact that I am currently in the preseason, which it doesn't count, being proven wrong.

Are you taking a victory lap? I think I am. About something that hasn't happened yet? I am taking a victory lap. I actually like this. Because if you are, I am so proud of you. I am taking a victory lap ahead of the actual victory. Is Danny here today?

We need an actual victory lap. How did we end up with two stugatsas today? No, I love this. We're going. Two Gatsas. Izzy, get the hell out of here. It's usually you and Sugatsa. There's three, yes. You guys are the two Stugatsas.

Oh my god, no. So now there's three of us. You have two brothers. All right, so I'm taking a victory lap then. I just got a thumbs up from Danny. He's here. You go now. Wait a second.

He's taking a victory lap for real? The rare, the rare pre first game in the NBA victory lap. I'm sure the Grizzlies fans are gonna love this, but this isn't like your dad's victory lap, Chris Cody, where he just got winded by taking a couple of brisk steps around the couch out there. We should utilize this place and go to the gym and let me actually get a workout in.

Let's do it, get out of here. Right now. Go. Go. Steady good? I mean, he's the EP, he's letting you go mid-segment. Let's do it. Get out of here. Right now. Go. Right now. Go. Is Stu you good? I mean he's the EP, he's letting you go mid-segment. Not letting, demanding. Okay. Sue you good? Now I'm good. Yeah, now I'm good. Is he needing help? I wish I had the penalty box sounder just to force you to leave. You can go. Only real Hoopers can leave now. All right, I'm

out of here. Enjoy your lap. I thought Izzy also was doing like a figure of speech, like it's not your father's victory lap, but he meant like Chris Cody's literal father did a victory lap once where he was out of breath because he couldn't actually run around. The last guy we should have had do a victory lap. Can't wait for my Pella Larson and Kasha Johnson victory laps in January. Oh Jesus.

I'm marking everything that I said today. So that way you guys can feel silly. Roy, how far do you think you could run if you had to like jog like just a you know slope? 15 feet I'm wondering if I could make it a mile. I'm serious at this point. I think I could do two miles a mile Thank you for your confidence in me. I appreciate it. I can't a mile Yes, I don't think with all the heaters a mile is gonna be an easy one I run not to toot my own horn, I run like three miles once a week,

just to make sure I'm in shape. But to peek behind the curtain a little bit, Greg said a few months ago he could run a six minute mile, which we all said that's the most insane thing ever. And then we were talking about who from us, who would be most likely to run a sub six minute mile. I said, definitely not me, I don't know, six minutes is really fast.

I don't think Billy could either. Taylor actually started training for a six minute mile because I told him, there is no way that you could run a six minute mile. Respectfully, you are not the build of a fast sprint one minute miler. And he's been training for it and he actually ended up hurting himself

because he trained so hard. So I'm back at the, I don't think anyone here could. I just asked Taylor, I'm like, since you started this training, what is your fastest mile? He said 720. Wow. 720, like I could run 720 if I pushed myself,

but six minutes is legitimately really, really hard. And I don't think anyone here could do it. Chris, do you think you could turn out a mile right now? Physically, yes. Like it's not gonna be a fast mile, but nobody can jog slow like I can. Right. I have this, like, if I'm gonna run back

when I would run a little bit, I could just jog the slowest pace you'd ever see where I'm like, I'm walking essentially right but my body is moving a 60 minute mile arms are moving at the jogging pace But it's just oh man Chris I think you could do I could you could do seven and a half eight minutes if you practiced a couple times I believe in you you're an athletic guy Are we saying six minutes is a long time or a short time? Because for me, six minutes is an eternity. Same here.

Yeah. Hell yeah, brother. Mm-hmm. He said, Taylor said. Five more minutes than I'm accustomed to. Taylor said that 720 was like the hardest thing he's ever done. He's like, I cannot get lower than this. He gave up after 720.

The 720 miles, the hardest thing. He's like, I can't beat this. Not to brag, I won the neighborhood turkey trout last year with my 5K. That's two brags, by the way. It is, two brags. I always had a strategy when I did that growing up on Long Island.

So my dad would do it, my brother would do it, I'd do it with them. I would sprint. I always wanted to tell somebody I had the lead through a half mile. So I would sprint the first half mile, and then I'd bail on the entire race. But I would tell everyone, hey, I was leading after a half mile or a mile, and then I would tail out. first half mile and then I bailed on the entire race. But I would tell everyone,

hey, I was leading after like a half mile or a mile. And then I would tail out. And they would be impressed. I mean, I don't want to brag, but I feel like we often will be like, who here is most likely to do this thing? And everyone's like, Tony, Billy. And I'm like, cool, I'm just,

I'm sitting right here as the person that definitely exercises and plays the most sports of the entire group. And I'm chopped liver. So someone's gotta advocate for me. Today, it's me. All right, good for you. Can I ask a question?

Can I ask a question that I had watching Game Day this week? Washington State very famously has the record, I think it's 310 straight appearances on college Game Day. And it got me thinking who second place is and how pissed they are at Washington State. I saw like an Oregon State flag there. And I'm just like, I just liked the idea of Oregon State.

Oh, you mean the flag is there? Yeah, the flag at game day. Old Crimson. And every week they show Old Crimson, the like Washington State gets the love. And then you see like the Oregon State flag in the background and you're thinking like, they've probably been there

297 straight times right but no one ever talks about it right like is why would you talk about second place though if you're Oregon state Are you trying to like make sure that the Washington state flag like misses their flight? It's like oh, sorry. Oh you guys can't make it you're trying to take out the person who's responsible for the Washington Second place with longest appearance like most appearances. I for the Washington State flag. If I'm in second place with the longest appearance, like most appearances, I want the Washington State one to end. Yeah, I know, I get it. Is there a second place? I think there is.

I know that the Washington State people, they have to make a concerted effort to make sure there is a flag bearer at every single game day. They logistically plan it out so that the streak continues. I don't know if there is another group with a flag doing that.

I like the idea of you being like, it's like a group to get Washington State flag there. Like she said, they have to work hard. It's like this week you got it. Two weeks, this person's going. So we have it all plotted out. Who's gonna, and then just like, it's like the Stu Gots of the group.

And you have some guy from Corvallis with Oregon State trying to take out Washington State. Well now I'm thinking about the irresponsible Washington State person that ruins it for everyone. They just oversleep. And they just like, imagine like, it's your day to like bring the flag. It's Ryan Leif's day.

It's your day as the Washington State guy. Like I haven't had a day in three years. Like it's my day to bring it and I oversleep? That would be terrible. Oh man, that would be terrible. What if they were like, what if- Leave a backup flag? What if Rhys Davis like midway through is like,

hey, I just, I don't want to be an alarmist but I do not see a Washington State flag here. That's gonna be like a cow ripping day right there. There's a strong gonna be an announcement. And then like the Alumni Association there's like a strongly worded email of like what the hell happened Frank you were supposed to be there and Frank's like I overslept. I feel like game day would just put the flag up just like we got to keep this straight. They have an emergency Washington State flag and it's like behind a glass case and they have to punch it and Oregon state's like oh come on he overslept And you're still gonna put it up the streets over

Bullcrap were you want a gummy? No, I just saw I just saw the Oregon State flag right and I was just like so no one talks about there So do we know if there is a second place because that's an important point to know like are you only tracking you're only tracking Washington State well I mean because it's been there since like 2003 or something Chris when DiMaggio had the hit streak at like 55 games no one was paying attention to the guy with the 12 game it's true you know been, I guess Chris's question everyone's question I if there is another flag that has made several consecutive appearances at game day. I don't know about it. So

I'm gonna get to the bottom. I'm gonna text Reese. I Mean there are expiries there has to be a second place And I'm certain Reese would call out Washington State if they didn't show up one day I'm certain care about the second place one like No, it's just no one's keeping track. Until Washington State oversleeps then all of a sudden Oregon State It's our time. Kent State all of a sudden is in second place. Ah, Kent State.

There's no way it's Kent State. It is a big football weekend. Jess, I'm wondering here because I would say you have a second place, Jeremy? Oh, you do not? Okay. Folks, listen up. It promises to be a month of tricks, treats, and of course, touchdowns. And Draft King Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, is the number one place to bet on touchdowns. New to

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This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugots. I would say that Alabama and Texas is probably, right, the game of the year. You could say that about Alabama- Georgia a few weeks ago, but the way it sits right now, you have Texas. You have Georgia. A lot of people think Texas is the best team in the country. I am fascinated by this game because I am not certain whether or not because no one is we don't know how the playoff is

going to look whether or not Georgia can lose a second game and still make the playoffs. A lot of people say yes. I don't know if that's the case, to be honest. Yeah, I think that both games are pretty important because there's going to be two teams in the SEC that we thought were really good going into the season that will have their second loss Sunday morning. And it could be Georgia and Alabama, it could be Tennessee and Georgia. But we do know Texas is the number one team in the number one spot, and if they lost to Georgia,

it would not be the end of the world for them. So I would say, in that case, yes, I guess it does make Tennessee and Alabama have higher stakes because the loser of that game is gonna have to really prove that they belong in the playoff for the rest of the season. But both games have huge playoff implications and huge SEC implications.

I'm really excited for Georgia at Texas because it's in Austin. The US Grand Prix is this weekend in Austin. It's gonna be a huge sports weekend in Austin. I'm super bummed that I'm not gonna be there, but I think that is just gonna be an incredible atmosphere and I think it's just gonna be such a great Saturday. I think it's gonna be so interesting

to see how the committee chooses this playoff. I do, meaning if Georgia does have three losses, but let's say, I don't know, Missouri has one loss, I hope they don't do it the way they've been doing it forever. I hope they just look at body of work, okay, they lost a close game to Alabama, they dominated the second half, maybe they lose a close game to Texas. They're definitely second half. Maybe they lose a close game to Texas.

They're definitely one of the 12 best teams in the country and Missouri is not. I hope it's not a win-loss thing. I hope they can look at body of work, injuries and everything. You know? Yeah, I mean, I think that's why I have a lot of people favor the committee versus just like going off

of like a computer algorithm because they can factor in injuries and road games versus home games and stuff like that. I do also think Michigan-Illinois this weekend, Sneaky could be a big game because Illinois, they obviously let Purdue come back last weekend, took it to overtime and won by one point in overtime because Purdue could not convert their two-point conversion in OT. But Michigan already has two losses this season. They have really struggled to find a quarterback that works for them. They've used three already. I actually, I don't know who's starting in this game. We might see a couple of quarterbacks. It's just been a mess there, but

Illinois is, they're good. Like they, they weren't able to beat Penn State. They only had one drive in that game where they were able to score points. And so maybe, you know, I don't think they're like an elite college football team, but if they're able to score points. And so maybe, you know, I don't think they're like an elite college football team, but if they're able to beat Michigan this weekend, I think that that is a really great season for Illinois. They're gonna obviously be in a bowl game, they'll be six and one, they'll be ranked in the top 20. I just think that that's a really exciting place

for that program because they've struggled a lot in the last few years and have had few great seasons, and so beating a Michigan team, even one without a great starting quarterback I think would be huge for that program. Well and think about it, Stu, the thing that you and Greg and a lot of others were worried about was oh man there's gonna be fewer games that matter toward the postseason and now we're sitting here talking about like Michigan-Illinois as a game that that matters nationally. You're talking about

games this weekend in the SEC and every single weekend in the SEC that teams with potentially two or three losses could make it. And the good news for you is that all the way through, it really has been what you're talking about. It has not been about who has the most wins or losses and only undefeated teams make it

versus one lost teams or two lost teams. It has been all the way through. We're going to take the four best teams. And so now there are some automatic qualifiers. There's the highest ranked group of five conference champion. There are the power for conference champions. But after that, it's a whole bunch of teams that the committee gets to look at and go, all right, who do we think is the best? And that for such a wide open playoff makes this season just fascinating. So I have changed my stance. I went into the college football season saying that they had it perfect.

They did. The regular season was great. The regular season felt like a postseason, right? And then you had four teams make it to the actual postseason. But I stand corrected. This has been great because there are more big games. There are fascinating matchups. There are teams that don't normally play teams during the regular season. It doesn't have to be a bowl matchup.

And so college football, they got it right. They really did. They got it right. And now, but here's what happens. And this is my concern. So 12 teams. Great. We're all agreeing. It's great. College football will get greedy and expand this thing out and suddenly a 12-team playoff will be a 24-team playoff. Well, yeah. I feel like I've already.

It's going to happen. We've already rehashed the 12-team playoff thing a number of times, but it is only week eight. We don't know what the playoff looks like yet. We don't know how much injuries are going to factor into this because teams are going to obviously be playing more and more games and the season is going to get longer and longer. But I do think there probably could have been a middle ground where we went from like four to six or like four to eight before we went from four to twelve. But as far as like the season goes, obviously I have no complaints. It's been a great college

football season. There's been a lot of really good teams. I think that the 12 team playoff happening and like coinciding with a lot of really good teams. I think that the 12-team playoff happening and coinciding with a lot of the big conference realignment moves has also kind of like doubled the effect of the chaos this year because Oregon and Ohio State being a conference game and Texas and Georgia being a conference game, that wouldn't have been the case last year. Those teams aren't gonna play each other

during the regular season unless they scheduled a non-con like three years ago. So I think there's a lot of different things happening at once with conference realignment and the playoff starting this year. And it just remains to be seen how much we love it in December and January, but I don't think people are gonna- It's gonna be impossible not to love, Jess.

I don't think people are gonna, that's what I'm saying, I don't think people are gonna complain about A, home playoff games, like if, you know, Oregon gets to host a playoff game, which obviously I think that would be a bummer for them at this point because they want the buy. But these are gonna be some great playoff sites, like great college football programs that are hosting playoffs at really iconic stadiums for the most part.

So I think that that's gonna be something people really love and I've looked at the scheduling, like I'm gonna be so locked in those two days of the first playoff weekend which was in the sitting there and i'm not gonna move for like twelve hours and it's gonna be awesome i can't wait uh... is he is moving right now he is in the jimmy's taking a victory lap uh... tony is up there with him

uh... is he is either treadmill uh... tony what's going on up there? So Stu, let me paint the picture for you. We're here at the beautiful Elser Gym overlooking the Bay, overlooking everything, and Izzy is about to take his victory lap. Izzy is gonna pick up the speed. We're obviously brought to you by Peloton. We're doing a Peloton app hit run right now. So Izzy likes to do things a little bit harder than

the average person. He's an athlete. do things a little bit harder than the average person? He's an athlete is a guy that a yo He's a guy that works out a guy that likes to train So instead of just taking a regular victory lap around a couch or downstairs He wants to do a hit workout and he's gonna answer questions If you guys have about Zack Edie, but I'm gonna start here Why did you and when did you know that Zack Edie wasn't gonna be the player player that everybody thought he was? You guys thought I was sweaty before. Um, look, I thought Zach, I thought Zach Edie watching him in college, you can tell he's a big plotting, big guy,

doesn't really have the mobility. And when everybody started talking, everybody started talking about him as this new, uh, big man in the NBA and I'm thinking, Oh, okay, he must've lost a lot. He must have trimmed down but no he's doing the exact same things I expected him to do out there on the floor five dribbles for a post-up like a hook shot from 12 feet you're not gonna get away with that during the regular season. So my question to you is did Taylor Jenkins look at Zach Gideon be like this is the guy of the future or maybe was that imposed on him from management?

I would say Taylor Jenkins is 40 years old I'm 47. I've been around the league longer than Taylor Jenkins Don't be fooled my guy. It might work for a little bit It might work for a little bit It might work for a couple of preseason games maybe even a big possession where they don't want to double but man it's not gonna work all season long I would say by about game 30. He's off the bench barely playing off. We've got obviously people that protect He's he's going guys. He's at 10 speed right now a rim protector

What do you think about rim protectors in this at day and age? Especially being that big like Zach Edie figure out how much more I gotta go Rim protectors is his. You can be big, but you gotta be mobile too. You gotta be able to not foul, and you gotta get from one side of the rim to the other side of the rim to be able to block stuff. I'd rather have Heat Rookie Kaleo wear it, protecting the room. Now Tony.

Are we done yet? Now Tony, let me jump in here and remind people that this victory lap is brought to you by Peloton. Find your push, find your power with Peloton. Peloton. Find your push, find your power with Peloton. All right so we've got we finished the victory lap it's slowing down here is it? I don't know. Hold on I'm trying to there we go. Izzy how did you feel on the first victory lap here at the Elser Gym doing a 10 speed? People don't realize how fast you were going because they didn't see

your feet but you were flying. I'm not gonna lie I mentioned earlier. I'm 47. I didn't really get a good warm-up my Achilles was barking the whole time but I feel pretty good now and You know else is 47 Tom Brady. I'd like a challenge him to a race All right Wow look painful right Tony ran out of Zack Edie questions. I think we finally got one of Taylor's Is it for the victory lap? Well done by you, Izzy. Wow, that looked painful. Right, Tony ran out of Zach Eadie questions, I think. We finally got one of Taylor's best sponsors. Not so Eadie doing that job.

No, but if Eadie starts making threes, we'll call him 3D, right? I mean, is that fair? 3D! 3D, you like that? Yeah, Zach 3D, how about that? How about another basketball storyline for you, Stu Gatz, that is interesting here, not Miami Heat,

so you can actually stay enthused about it. We'll see. Yannisantta Takumpo. Yes. Some people on the internet are saying that he basically created a new way of making a trade request without making a trade request. Wow.

Go on, I'm intrigued. So he was asked, I guess, about expectations for the season. The Bucs obviously have championship aspirations and what it could be like if they don't win a championship. And the quote coming out of this article from Sam Amick in The Athletic, yeah, if we don't win a championship, I might get traded. This is the job we live.

This is the world we're living in. It's everybody. At any given moment, if you don't succeed, that might be it for you. If you don't do a good enough job, you're out. No name is bigger than the team. I love that. This is genius of him,

because you're already sort of planting the seeds for, hey, if this doesn't all work out with me and Damien Lillard again this year, just a couple years left on my contract, hey, you know what? Management might wanna trade me. I don't want out of Milwaukee, but they might wanna get rid of me,

and you know, I'm such a high value in this league. It would just be such a shame. He's almost saying that he wouldn't blame management if he doesn't win a championship this year if they wanted to trade him. Which is genius because then if you can plant that seed early and then come back around in the off season if it doesn't work out and be like, you know what,

I think management would probably be wise to move me. And if they did, you know, I'd be happy ending up in this city or that city or that city or that city. This to me is as well done as you could possibly do this before the season of planting the seeds without actually asking out. It is so good, I'm so jealous, I haven't thought of it first. I mean, that is such a great move by Giannis.

Who knows if they don't win a championship this year, it has nothing to do with him. And if they win, the only reason they'll win is because of him. Yes. But if I know, hey, I don't blame you. Trade me to the Knicks. Right. And the Bucs would be in such a weird spot, too. Honestly, given the construction of their roster,

it does make sense. What he's saying makes a lot of sense. But when you're a player with as much star quality as he has, or the contract that he has, obviously, the Bucs would want to retool around you, not move you. They're not going to end up with anybody like Giannis in Milwaukee. And so now, you know, the Eastern Conference is going to be fascinating and up for grabs. So I think this is a interesting sort of storyline to monitor moving forward.

Is there a dominant team this year in the NBA? Is there because the Celtics are still supposed to, I mean, look. I don't think anyone takes them seriously. Even while winning a championship, I don't think anyone takes the Celtics seriously in the NBA. Totally different response from NBA media and people in the NBA with this team getting over the hump

and winning a championship as opposed to teams past, just like the Golden State Warriors, who like everyone was waiting and waiting and waiting. And then when they did it, we anointed them one of the greatest teams we've ever seen. This Celtics team did things statistically and in terms of dominance that even the Warriors didn't do, and they are literally the best team ever in terms of going 73 and 9. So the Celtics are supposed to run away with the East and be the best team in the league as the West beats up on each other, but creeping behind them, right? You've got

the Sixers who made their move with Paul George, albeit his injury in the preseason. You've got the Bucks who we just mentioned, all these young teams getting better. I won't say the Miami Heat, despite the fact that I feel that way. There are all of these teams that are sort of creeping behind them the Knicks getting more competitive We think that you never know what happens if the Celtics actually get tested Right and have to go seven games against a team. I'm just saying this though in terms in NBA circles It seems like the least respected championship team one One of them, it's like the Marlins

winning the 03 World Series. Which is crazy because this team is loaded and coming back and they have anointed young players. And by the way, should be respected. Like the Celtics, that team is unbelievable, was dominant and was one of the best teams we've seen in the Eastern Conference this century. And yet, nationally, it's sort of not talked about that way.

Obviously, we had our talking points here that we were gonna go after Jason Tatum's numbers in the clutch and try to find our ways to talk ourselves into, hey, they're not gonna win it, they're not gonna win it, they're not gonna win it. But once they did, you have to look back at it and acknowledge how great they are, and there's no reason they should be any worse this

year. Who is the least respected champion of all time? I think it's Trent Dilfer's Ravens, right? No, but everybody agrees that defense was amazing. But everyone wonders how they won with Trent Dilfer. If Rex Grossman had won it with the Bears, Ben Wallace Pistons. Oh, that's a good one. That team was so good. They went back to back? Did they win two? They went to back to back.

They went, they won one, they lost the second time around. The Giants, the two Super Bowls with Eli Marnie. That's a good one. But when you beat the best team that's ever lived, don't you get a little bit of respect? I don't know. I mean, I don't discount them, but I feel like people are always like,

oh, the Giants, they stink. Yeah, they've always stunk. And I'm like, what? You went two Super Bowls. I would say if you beat Brady and Belichick twice, your two and oh, and Super Bowl's against them, that kind of neuters that a little bit. I would say the Giants Super Bowl with Jeff Hostetler

is a team that no one really took that seriously, but the same kind of deal, because that defense was so dominant and so good. Those Marlins you mentioned, those 2003 Marlins might be a good example, right? Because from 97 to 03, they win two championships in six or seven seasons and yet nobody took the franchise seriously whatsoever and knew that within a couple of years it would be totally disassembled. Well, 97, we took the first title seriously for a week until he traded everyone away. No one took 03

seriously. Nobody took 03 because that team was like, it was patched together. No one took O3 seriously. Nobody took O3 because that team was like, it was patched together. The one year of puds. Manager fired, here comes Jack McKeon, Trader Jack, he's 97 years old, he's gonna make you laugh, and with his magic, he's gonna win a World Series. So all that being said, do you wanna top five reasons

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