The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Donald Trump Interviews (Part 3)
Episode Date: July 4, 2025After the 2013 interview, Donald Trump returned for more on the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz on September 18, 2014. There are more indicators of Trump's potential run for the presidency as we hear ...conversations about Bill Clinton, the benefits of golfing for business, and, most importantly, his concern over the number of flags being thrown in the NFL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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joined now by a return visitor donald trump with us on the s p n radio last
time we talked to him
we thought he was going to buy the bills he did not buy the bills why did you not
buy the bills
well i love nfl i love football i put in a bid and i guess the nfl release it was
a billion dollars which was a nice high price but somebody else paid a lot more money than that
you'll have to speak to them as to why and uh... i said i'll pass because you
know billion dollars a lot of money
and uh...
uh... yeah i think it's uh... gonna be very interesting but after looking at
everything i decided not to up my bid
so let's see what happens it was very important to me that the bill stay in
buffalo and now they will. So that was a big portion of why I even bid
in the first place. Let's say Donald Trump was hypothetically the owner of
the bills. Everything going on in the NFL right now, you would be saying and doing
what when it comes to Roger Goodell? Well, look, I like Roger. Roger's a person that
I like a lot. He's a friend of mine and I think, and that's why I think probably
the owners, even though, you know, we have a USFL question with me and like a lot is a friend of mine and i think and that's why i think probably the owners even though you know we have a u s f l question with me and
uh... what a lot of people don't know about the u s f l is that i came in long
after the league had opened
and the league was failing and when i came in i made the week hot
and i should get credit for that but of course that i took lauren taylor and i
told them back to the giants for a million dollars i would say they weren't
thrilled with that and you know so lots of other things.
But I would say Roger would have been very happy to have me.
I would tell, say a couple of things.
Getting back onto the field, I would say you've got to stop with the flags.
It's horrible what's going on.
Every play is a flag.
And half of the times they're looking and they very, you know, you watch the announces.
But that's not the controversy that he's in the middle of right now.
Like that he's got a bigger controversy on that and i know
i'm just saying i think the game is very important and i think the flags and i
also think that goes i mean
people rate rate it's key and and dick but kids to these guys would be allowed
to play football nowadays so
it's a uh... it's i i think that's a real problem i think it's going to be a
big problem all the flags and
the good tackles you know what used to be a great tackle today you get suspended from football. That's the problem.
The other stuff is is certainly hurting them and potentially hurting their brand very badly. It's
got to stop. Donald Trump with us here on ESPN radio. If you were the commissioner of the NFL,
would Adrian Peterson, Greg Hardy, guys like that? Would they be playing football
right now, Donald? Well, you have to look at individual cases. I mean, as an example,
in the race case, you know, he he was knocked out, he was unconscious. And there was pretty bad stuff
took place in the elevator. And then I hope that Roger never saw and I would certainly take his
word for it. But you know, you have to hope that Roger never saw the interior of the elevator and
what took place because he said he did
uh... but but that was not a very hard fine and he got a lot of think he
actually admitted that himself any
he apologized as far as uh... peterson is concerned great player
and
you know it depends on exactly what happened that's what you have to take a
look at i've heard a lot of people saying today you have
over the years i've known people that are good parents but the spankers they
spanked and you know seventy percent of people they say so poll were seventy
percent i happen not to be a spanker
uh... if evonka did something wrong i was never spanker but there are spankers
you know there's a tremendous group of people and i don't mean beaters i mean
spankers is a's a vast difference.
And you'd have to look into Peterson case.
You know, I met him, I was on a big television show,
and he was on the same show,
and I met him about a month ago,
and what a nice guy he was, he was great.
And it's so sad to see, but he's a big star,
and they're gonna have to see what happens.
Here's the thing about Adrian Peterson.
Famously, he has a death grip of a handshake.
Famously, you refused to shake
hands, correct? Well, I did shake his hand and I really don't refuse to shake hands. But of course,
everyone knows that I'm right because you catch colds, you catch flus, you catch all sorts of
things by shaking hands. But if you're living in this society, and I happen to like to jack
Japanese custom better, where you just sort, look at each other and you nod.
But the fact is that I did shake his hand and you're right,
he's got a strong hand grip and that's fine.
But he was really a nice guy.
And of course he said he grew up
and his parents were a little bit rough with him,
et cetera, et cetera.
So you have to really look at the circumstances
and every one is different.
No matter what happens,
I mean, you're gonna see other of these things
and every one is different no matter what happens i mean you can see other of these things and everyone is different now the adrian peterson one is going to
be interesting because it really has to do with a lot of the mores of society
so we'll see what happens with that donald trump with us on the sbn radio if
you own budweiser beyond anheuser-bush dot would you spend one point two billion
dollars on the nfl well that's the one way that things could start to topple two ways ratings
go down ratings start getting hit and that'll happen with the flags and and
with that lack of tackles and every that will happen because i have so many
friends of the sick of it they can't watch it anymore
so ratings getting hit and the sponsors leaving those you do things that you
have to worry about from the standpoint of the brand and the, you know,
and keeping it going and making lots of money.
And you know, we'll have to see what happens.
I think that the sponsors are starting to drop out, but they're not dropping out big
league.
But if you have big league sponsorship dropping out, then you've got a problem in the NFL.
There's no question about it.
Let's talk about some other things outside of sports here.
Does Donald Trump have a tipping philosophy?
How does Donald Trump tip?
I'm a big tipper.
I believe in tip.
They usually get very nice treatment and everything else.
I tend to tip ridiculously because I don't want to read any
stories that Donald Trump was cheap.
And, you know, I read so much where somebody leaves a tip of
2% and 5% and, you know, et cetera much where somebody leaves that tip of two percent and five percent
you know it's a church at you know i like helping people out i'm in a
position where i can do what i want to do and i'd like
tipping big especially if i like the waiter or the waitress and i'd like to
think that give us the coolest person you played golf with
i played golf with so many i play golf with sort of
they're all cool in the runway but I play with Michael Jordan he's a great guy
gambling gambling gambling Trump not so much I mean hey and let me tell you
Michael's a good golfer you know a lot of people say oh he's overrated he's
over Michael can play what were the stakes trying he's a great chipper and
he's a great putter Trump stakes on the golf gambling I know
Jordan George not playing out there for
free i don't know what were the states have a little bit but you got to ask
michael about that though
i don't know if you want to call me conference and then we'll ask him a
right now
i don't think so you'll be happy when i say he was a great people one i know
but i'm not as i do want to say we were partners and we want okay we were
partners and we want okay we were partners and we want
well we played against
we were playing well actually we had on a concern stand in the group
and we had somebody else on your side
well no no i think it was a company also said
and when we realized how good she was
but we immediately all fought over
realize that good she was a little bit longer ever hey arnica arnica was seriously good and she is
seriously that you're terrific
not going to give us the stakes of the bad now i don't want to do that i don't
want to a better let me do it another way the highest stakes that donald
trump has ever played for on the golf course
well actually the highest stakes are united some of my best deals on the
golf course and i've gotten to know people and i'm i bought trump tower on and you know if that that built
it but i bought the site because of gulf because the people that i played golf
with really like to be a lot
and i made the deal because of them i mean because of golf and
i've made many great deals and these are billion dollar deals
because of gulf so gulf and you know i tell the people at the watson school of
finance which is
considered the best business school i say you know you should teach golf at
the school cuz
i've made many great deals
on the golf course one of the reasons i got turnberry was because of golf i was
playing something else and
the folks that had term very for many years i've got to know me on the golf
course and
i was able to get turnberry in scotland which is one of the great places were
the great iconic places
in the world not just in the world of golf so i've made many great deals on
the golf course abt big ones
students do you see what trump just in the main courses so trump do you know
what you just did to me i had to get around you did how can you get it aware
i had to do it and i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
i answered it like a policy to talk about the most i ever played for i gave
you an extra little spin i think that's that was more interesting but you know
i don't know trump answer that question is that i i i flipped it around i like
my answer better i think it's not the audience doesn't like that answer they
want to have that baby they maybe they. No, I like to gamble a little bit, but I keep it down to
a minimum. Number one, I've won a lot of club championships. I play well, but it's still
not my business. Lawrence Taylor, I've heard many stories. I know you play golf with LT,
and I've heard many stories about Lawrence maybe cheating a little bit on the golf course,
Donald. Can you confirm that for us? Well, I'll tell you what about large large is a funny guys got the worst
grip i've ever seen but he can play and he's as good a chipper as you'll ever
see
and lauren's played jerry rice or to show that i have on that the golf channel
where i introduced people that played as a celebrity and jerry played terrific
but lauren's is chipping was
it yet to see the show
at donald j. Trump's fabulous world
of golf.
Trump, I can't believe you.
And I played, believe it or not, we had different people on the show.
Oscar De La Hoya played something.
Donald.
But Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor played golf.
And I'm telling you, Lawrence put on a chipping display.
And Lawrence is a very good guy.
And you talk about a guy who likes to gamble.
But Lawrence is a very good player.
Donald, he asked you for a great LTts story on the golf course area turn that
around to you know i could i could tell you that when he played jerry rice uh...
he won
it was very interesting and he made a statement at the end he said jerry is a
great golfer but i'm a great winner
and i said boy that was a killer statement i was on television and you
know they'll be playing that matter for many many years to come but did he
cheat and i'll not just a reminder that by the way and here is a great good no i
never saw a large sheet i played a lot of golf with laurence and i could tell
you i still plenty of guys
that you know very well that i know that you like crazy but and i don't want to
give you a name one i know that'll be dan you think that one of name one of them no no no i could tell you plenty i won't do that
i don't have a rate of a beef you're not going to believe me with laurence laurence
i've never seen laurence alright next question last question he beats for the
president i don't think that everybody who are you i played i played with bill
clinton a lot
and he's a terrific guy cheater and he's actually a very underrated golfer he actually if he played white plays he likes to play but
he actually hits the ball very nicely who are you beefing with these days give
me a name who are you beefing with meaning fighting with yes yes wow nobody
have many people I can't believe it I must be losing my edge I'm getting along
with too many people this is an
exciting but not too many i mean the rosies of the world as far as i'm
concerned that you can have her
but not too many people i get along with a lot of people alright donald always
good talking to thank you for putting up with our nonsense thank you guys it's a
great job have a good time that i don't know about all of this