The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Final Nightgown

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

David Samson is here for Hour 1, and he immediately begins by telling us "what is wrong" with Dan. David then informs the crew about his bid for George Michael's sunglasses and the other random movie memorabilia he owns including license plates and hospital gowns. Then, did David once have his ear pierced? Plus, Jack McKeon, Erik Spoelstra, the Tampa Bay Rays, Oakland's baseball fan base, and David's movie review. Also, we have a new song that's idea was born mid-segment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We do game days, please drink responsibly, the Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Every day David Sampson is doing a show, and I do say this a lot, but I say it purposefully, because throughout all of sports media, I do not see a lot of people doing solo shows for 50 minutes that tackle the range of subject matter that David is tackling from serious to difficult to business to also amusing and so nothing personal is

the name of his podcast and now David has gotten with some confidence pretty comfortable telling me when he thinks we haven't done a good show or where We fall on the wrong side of arguments And I don't even know which way he's going to go with this But he was complaining to me about the fact that he found yesterday's dolphin discussion which continued today Exasperating, but I don't know why it's exasperating Do you guys have any theories on how it is that we've exasperating, but I don't know why it's exasperating. Do you guys have any theories on how it is that we've exasperated him? Because I'm guessing you guys being hopeful about a three

and six team is something that he's going to be laughing about, but I don't actually know which way he goes on that. I mean, I could see him also thinking you're ridiculous for thinking, oh, if they're not a Super Bowl contender, they should just punt on the whole season. Right. Samson, your thoughts here and welcome. Thank you. Yeah, your allocation was just off. It was such an amazing weekend of sports

and you led and then just stayed with the Dolphins for so long. And I'm definitely loyal and understand the legacy audience in Miami. But you have to think about the amount of time that you have people watching your show. And there was a million things to talk about and you just kept hammering it and you hammer it in a way that was not at all original. Yeah, they stink. They're not going to make the playoffs. They're not worthy of a national conversation whatsoever. And you gave them like an entire first segment.

David, it was coming off Monday Night Football. I wasn't here Monday, but I'm assuming Dan and Greg covered the weekend with the crew that was coming off Monday night football though. Right. So just because it's the only game, it doesn't mean you have to give them that level of attention because there was a lot of other news that particular night. I was just struck by it and the problem with Dan guys, and I think you know this.

He just doesn't take criticism. He assumes that his ear is obviously better and more experienced than everybody else's. So people are reticent to ever say anything to him, like walking on eggshells, but I'm not that way. So I merely reached out to him and said, that segment sucked. And of course he didn't respond.

He'll only respond when you do something wrong on your show, or when someone is on X saying that, oh, you're being criticized or that, oh, you're not popular. He'll forward that to you, but he won't acknowledge any possible mistake that he could have made. I do enjoy sending you the criticism of you on X. It's almost always wildly funny. It's bizarre.

I don't know if you're just trying to make sure that I don't get an ego, which in your universe is impossible for me to have both on and off camera. Literally impossible, which is hard to subjugate my ego, what I have to do in your universe. But yes, it is bizarre, whether it's three in the morning or seven in the morning, or most likely at 8 o' 2 in the morning, when you text me what somebody who has four numbers

at the end, the irony is you'll tweet back and say, oh, way to go, John four, six, nine, six, nine. But yet when it's about me, you'll act as though it's the number one most important criticism of all time. Because it is. Anybody, I support anybody who's critical of you. What else?

I think I'd like though for you to come by? I think I'd like though for you to come by, I do think I'd like for you to come by and just tell us everything we did wrong the day before. I'd be happy leaving five minutes for that a day where you're our ombudsman on bed. News judgment we've had, where it is we failed as a show. I think people would enjoy that from you. I'm just trying, I listen to the show every day. And I think it's important to listen to a show

that you are emotionally, fiscally, and just invested in all the way to my bones. And I wish that everyone would listen to the show as an investment in the show, because it's important to understand it. And it's not a perfect show. And you have to be willing, although you've been doing it for 20 years,

which is amazing, and you've been in the business longer than I, it doesn't mean that you're perfect. Oh, yeah, yeah. I want to show you David, something here that went on for sale, went up for sale, an authentic Batmobile. It is fully functional.

It is $3 million. Evidently, I think the way that I read the story, Christopher Nolan had 10 fully functioning Batmobiles and the price is $3 million. Would you think that that is a good thing for someone to have? Like, do you think that that there would be a bidding war if I put it up for sale? All 10 of them, when I end up getting more than three million dollars per. It's probably cooler to have than Otani's 50th home run ball. And some people would argue it's cooler to have than a Picasso. So there is a market for that type of car. And it's it would cost quite a bit to ensure and you certainly

would be subject to get tickets or to have it inspected would be interesting. But there's definitely a market for it and there's a market for movie memorabilia. As a matter of fact, I'm bidding on a piece of memorabilia while I'm going to be doing a show so I haven't figured out how to do that at the end of this week. But there's an amazing market in the memorabilia world, and that is a living, breathing piece of memorabilia. So, yeah, I mean, what are you bidding on? I don't I actually I'll disclose it to you. I'm bidding on the I can't even forget it.

Yes, I'm going to tell you George Michael wore a pair of sunglasses when he did a concert. I love George Michael. I've always loved George Michael. He's dead now, which is sad. And there's a concert worn pair of sunglasses that's available and you don't see this often. And I can buy him and wear them, not just display them, but I can wear them to protect my retina and cornea. And it can be George Michael. So I'm trying to buy it. Dan, you have to drive up the price. You have to.

Well, I saw you and Billy and Chris scheming in order to get that answer. And what surprised me is you guys really cornered Samson because Samson's, he's clever. So Samson didn't want to tell you what it was because he knew the moment he told anybody the price was going up publicly. However, what governed him there is the priority of,

man, I answer all the questions. I'm never afraid to answer any of the questions. And so he just like, it's not like he didn't see the three of you coming. He saw you coming and he gave the audience the information anyway, even though now it's gonna cost it. It's gonna actually cost it. We telegraphed our pass, I mean.

This is a risky business, Stu, because you could bid it up and I could disappear and you'll have yourself a five thousand dollar pair of sunglasses. I said nothing about me. I told Dan to do it. I mean, Dan's not going to do it. Is this the pair of Prop Store Auction or is a different pair? Maybe you could bid on these, David. It is the pair of Prop Store Auction. It was Billy, Chris and and got moving in the shadows to drive up the price in

Unison to make me pay for it so that it would go up on you and you saw it all from where you were standing But you felt the need to answer a question like what just happened inside you you cannot help yourself You feel the need you think that one of the things that makes you special in this marketplace is you're always saying what you really think. You're answering every question. It's really my brand. I will always answer any question you have

and I won't shy away from it, but there also may be more to the story. So for example, there may be a second item in that auction that I want even more, but I give you just enough to make you think like I give you everything knowing that you jackasses may bid up the price for the sunglasses, and I may have to let him go because I have a price in my mind.

That is a drop dead price. What's the second thing? Forget that you answer every question. You got it. You answer them all. It's the license plate from Arthur. You got it. You answer them all. It's the license plate from Arthur.

Oh wow. You're driving it up, really? We had to get that out of him. The license plate. Totally, Moore does that to you? You guys are just bullying him now. You could corner him at every turn and if you just keep asking the question,

you'll eventually get the answer. Can you tell me what the most prized thing in your collection is on this front? Like how often have you bought things like this? What number of things like this do you have? I have a good number actually, because I buy things that are meaningful to me. So I don't buy them as an investment.

And I know that my kids, you know, in a few years or minutes or decades will just sell it all when I croak. But there are certain things. The number one thing that I have that I love is the hospital gown worn by Harold Crick, played by Will Ferrell in a movie called Stranger than Fiction. And at the end of that movie, he's in the hospital, having been run over.

And I have his actual hospital gown and I look at it. it's right in the studio where I record and I look at it every single day weird go put it on it's not in this studio actually I have two different ones but I will wear it actually I've never worn it but I would only be able to wear it with nothing underneath because the whole point of it is that your ass cheeks have to show because that's a true hospital gown. I think you should wear it the night that we take the bus to Marlins Park and you make your triumphant return

to Marlins Park for the first time. I think that that's the day that we should wear it. You would never wear it outside, right? It's too valuable to you. You'd insure it and everything else, right? Yeah, I would not. It's not to be worn outside. I've never actually taken it off the hanger. So I still have it exactly as it came to me.

But I have a bunch of things of props of movies that just are meaningful to me. And that's there's no reason the the second one that you've seen on my set is the Fed is the FedEx box from castaway. The actual FedEx box, which is a cool one, because Castaway is a movie that does mean a lot to me and that FedEx box and what can happen in life. And it informs how I act and I live with these props. And it is weird, sort of a fantasy land of memorabilia, both sports and entertainment. And I get lost in it. So I don't do it just to say I have it. It's not a look at me, Louie. I engage with it.

I think about it, I look at it and I live with it. And I love that. It's like art. David, heaven forbid something bad were to happen. You get some bad news and you're, you know, bedridden or whatever. You have to go to the hospital. Would you ever say, you know what?

I have my own hospital gown. Like this is the one that I want to go in and you take it there with you. Is it like wisdom teeth or is it like game over? this is the one that I want to go in and you take it there with you is it like wisdom teeth or no no like game over this is the end yeah like we know like sure the final day wear that hospital gown as a matter of fact Billy it is almost my commitment that if it's not one of those sudden things like getting hit by a bus where it's something that's just a you know a two-year nightmare I definitely plan on going in that gown, for sure.

Why is the gown more meaningful to you than the FedEx box? I think most people listening to this would have heard that as, oh, the FedEx box is a pretty cool thing to have, and they might not look at the gown the same way because the movie didn't reach them the same way. But I can get a FedEx box and say it's from the movie. You could, but this has got the emblem on it, the gold, the gold on it.

It's got the stuff that makes anybody who would see it would recognize it. It's like a pretty he's not wrong when he says it's a piece of art. But I view I view the hospital again. I will never forget. I don't know if you have this with movies and the movie I want to review today. It happened to me as well, where you remember watching it for the first time and you remember the way it impacted you. The movie is about a literary character who is actually real. And Emma Thompson is a writer who's writing a book and the character in the book is Harold Crick, except Harold Crick is an actual guy who's got terrible OCD.

He's totally lonely. And then all of a sudden Maggie Gyllenhaal comes into his life and shows him that he can be loved and shows him how to love and that he can actually live a life. And he ends up living that life that he never dreamt he could ever live. And he survives an accident

that the book had him not survive. And part of the book would be he would die saving a kid's life. But then as a real person, he had to live and he survived it because he learned how to love and be loved. And it just always impacted me. And I probably watched it 30 times, at least in my life. And it impacts me almost the same every time other than the first time. Is there much regret in how it impacts you because I would imagine that you've just described your own life in some ways lonely with your OCD because people

don't understand you like is this the connection point? Yeah, I don't think people need to have me on the couch. It's not SBS, but obviously Dan, you know, you don't need a roadmap to know that. Of course, the movies that impact me are the ones that I see myself in or that I recognize my failures or my issues and that there's a path forward. So, can we move on?

The reason I asked the question, no, no, no. It's like the dolphin is saying it. The reason I'm not gonna move on is because I'm not sure. David, you have been, and this bummed me out in hearing the first four episodes of our oral history, Samson's been on with us a long time. And his love of the movies is as strong as anyone. You could disagree with everything he's saying,

but the movies to him are transport portal into feeling things that he tides from what movies are something he watches and when they reach him through his wires and his so idiosyncrasies and everything else they stay with him in a way that uh... you know echoes as life wisdom and art where and where entertainment reside and so he cares in a way that's unusual about movies because they make him feel more alive.

Most people don't watch movies that way, I don't think. So I don't actually know that though, I agree with you because I can't get anyone. And you know, you have people like Adnan who are big movie guys who claim, you know, they know everything about movies, but they don't really live them the way I do. Part of me has always felt like Walter Mitty,

and that's something that I've tried to explore. And it's, you know, eventually you just run out of the money allocation for that exploration. But Walter Mitty is a character, the Ben Stiller movie, but it's a book before that, where he finds himself in situations where he is who he's not in real life. And so movies for me are that.

And I've always had this this since I was a child, since I was four or five years old, I remember movies in that way. So you're right, it is a big part of my life. So I'm lucky enough to be able to have things in this hospital gown. It's not worth what a Picasso's worth, but to me it is.

And that's the kind of stuff that I like collectively. So you are claiming that you're a better movie watcher than Adnan. Seriously. And all of us are really feels like everyone. You're the best. No, I'm not actually yucking on anybody's movie. Yum. You can engage with them however you want. And I don't. You do it better. Any of your. I just say that for someone like Adnan to say he is the authority on movies, that may be true in his mind, but I never say he is the authority on movies, that may be true in his mind,

but I never say I'm the authority on movies. I say that I'm the authority on the movies that are meaningful to me. And so when you criticize me for my list and my top fives, it literally doesn't matter to me. I could not care less because it's my list and it's my life and how I engage with it. How many of these FedEx boxes do you think exist, David?

Because I found I found it on the auction site and they have like stills from the movie and it looks a lot dirtier than the one that they were selling. Yeah. So it's like Wilson. So there are there there's stages. So there's the Wilson when it first got open. Then there's the Wilson when there are branches in it toward the end of the movie. The FedEx box when it first washes up, then there's the Wilson, when there are branches in it toward the end of the movie, the FedEx box when it first washes up, that's one. So there are different there's different numbers. So I would assume during the course of filming, there would be 15

or 20 FedEx boxes that would be used. And same with Wilson's. There are some that there's only one of like the pocket watch that he had from Helen Hunt. The watch. So you have to just know how much of what there is. But again, I'm not looking for the FedEx box to go up in value. It's not a stock that I purchased.

I look at the pocket watch or the FedEx box or the hospital gown as just something that I love to be in my midst every day. And something you'll die in. I mean. Well, the gown is, Billy just gave me the great idea. I'm actually gonna have to put that in my living will for the scores of people who are gonna be there. The kids don't want it.

You said the kids are gonna throw it. You said the kids are gonna just sell it. They get buried in it. Are you really gonna wear these George Michael glasses? Cause like, I don't know that you could pull these off. They're a lot, these glasses. I wanna try and you're right, I wore at some time during college,

I wouldn't wear a cross earring, but I wore a dangling ballerina earring. And I have stubble from time to time, it's all from George Michael. He was sort of a style person who I always respected and loved and couldn't necessarily pull off. But I think these glasses have a shot. I really do. That was shocking what he just revealed there.

Dangling ballerina. You wore a dangling ballerina earring in college? Who were you trying to be? And I say that as- George Michael. George Michael. What? He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, well thank you.

But, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I wanted to be George Michael. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I'm ready to acknowledge that. I'm open about saying that. I have great love for George Michael. Hey, it's Roy. And as you guys know, I love to grill. My barbecue team won first place at the Key West Invitational. I beat Greg Cody in the Turkey cook-off. I think of myself as a pretty decent cook and Omaha Steaks has the best food to put on your plate. I can marinate and season the ribeye, cook at the medium-rare, and enjoy a good dinner thanks to Omaha Steaks. Nothing delivers comfort and joy quite like the unrivaled quality and taste of Omaha Steaks. This year, skip the holiday hustle

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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.uk. Don Lebatard. Go pee-pee. Stugats. Go pee-pee. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. It's just that not since I wore suspenders and used a pocket watch in college has someone's style been less like what someone's style should be than what it is you were going for in college while I was going for something in college that was not that, but even I with

my suspenders and pocket watch would laugh at you wearing a dangling earring. I'm not saying that everybody got it, but it didn't matter because I loved it. And I had to take it out when I went home. I wasn't allowed to have an earring. And I got my ear pierced at the 86th Street subway in New York City when I was a senior in high school.

And I walked, there it is. If you're listening to this, you don't see it. But if you're watching. That's a cross by the way. That is why I wouldn't wear a cross. Right, I know but it's a ballerina. Which would they have been more upset about, David, the cross or the earring?

No, I would never have worn the cross just because I wouldn't have. But that said, and Madonna used to wear crosses a lot, but I wouldn't copy that. But the dangling part is what I loved. And I got my ear pierced, back then you would do it down in the subway. And I walked back to my apartment

and I was a senior in high school and I was kicked out of the apartment and said, you can go live with your friends or take your earring out. So I took it out. No, no, same, same. No, my father, that's old, the old beloved Poppy. Yeah, got drunk one night in Daytona, got an ear pierced.

Your dad? No, me. Thank you, Billy. Funny visual though, Poppy getting one of those. That's why he did it. You think he was confused about that? I love this for David, by the way, I'd just like to say. How do you love it?

Do you think he should go back to it? No, I love that he wanted to do it and he did it, and judgment be damned, he was gonna wear the ballerina earring if he wanted to, and he's gonna get the George Michael glasses if he wants to, and he's not gonna care if you guys are trying to bully him or make fun of him. That's how he's done his entire life though.

I mean, that's who David is. Except, well, it's who he is until his parents tell him to take it out. And then it's not who he is. It's who David's always been right up until his parents did what my dad did. My dad was like, you will not come home with that. You will not live here with an earring.

David should spell this. I had to hide my tattoos from my family and my parents when I got my first tattoo and I got them in a place that would be hidden. And the first time I got one that would be visible when I wore shorts, it was a tough moment because I had to tell them. The first thought was it was a bar mitzvah tattoo, the kind that just rubs off in three days, which everyone gets. It's what all the Jewish kids get to be cool. And then it just sort of washes off. So that was the first thought.

And then it was, oh, this is real. And meanwhile, I was the president of a major league baseball team. And what I was told is that you cannot be the president of a team. It's like being the secretary of defense with with arm tattoos. You just can't do it. But it turns out that you can. Are you blaspheming religiously there or is there some other reason that they didn't want you to have tattoos? So it is a bubba meister. I was taught growing up that you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery with a tattoo.

But I did consult my rabbi before getting my first tattoo, which was a World Series tattoo. And it turns out to be not true. You can be buried in a Jewish cemetery with a tattoo. So I presented that as an argument that was a losing argument, but to me it was the end of the argument because I thought that was the main reason. But it turns out that their view was that if you have a tattoo that you are not a mensch

or the type of upstanding citizen, and I found that to be ridiculous that you are who you are not a mensch or the type of upstanding citizen. And I found that to be ridiculous that you are who you are having nothing to do with the tattoo. David should, should Spolu sleep over his mistake last night? He will, he will think about it for the rest of his life as a moment of unbelievable failure. And then the other side of his brain will say

it was a regular season game 10 against the Pistons. It, it wasn't the end of unbelievable failure. And then the other side of his brain will say it was a regular season game, 10 against the Pistons. It wasn't the end of the world. If that had been a playoff game, that haunts your dreams and nightmares forever. But as a regular season game, it impacts his day today, but then he moves on. And in terms of how it would go after last night, I heard you guys talking about it.

You're right, no conversation at all. You walk into the locker room after that. If you're Pat Riley, you just, you know, look at him, you nod, and then you leave. I do not believe that Spoelstra will have the perspective you are speaking of, of making a distinction between the stakes of a playoff game and regular season game 10.

I believe that last night will haunt him for the remainder of his days. That it's the nightmarish scenario that every coach dreads. And while he will move on because the job insists that he must, David, and failure is a part of learning in these situations, I believe that any coach that I have asked the question,

no matter their age, Stan, George Carl, whatever, they remember the giant mistakes and none of them are as giant as the one that I saw last night. You're changing your story. Of course he'll remember what happened, but what you said is it will haunt him. No, well the reason that when I asked them the question, hey, what's the biggest mistake or the most embarrassed you've ever

been? It's where they go on like when you ask them the entirety of your life. What's the most embarrassed you've ever been? It's where they all go is to the mistake they made. I'm not. I just don't know that's haunting. I hear what you're saying.

Of course, they'll remember it. You talk to a manager. I just talked to Jack recently on October 25th, Jack McKeon, the former manager of the Marlins, who's 94 years old. It's fine to say that I worked with him for many, many years. And he will remember a specific game from early in his career. And he'll remember who is at bat in the fifth inning of game number 69 of the regular season of a random year. So that's not haunting. That's just how their brain is, is sort of the makeup of their brain. So of course, Spolster will remember this, but not in the way you're thinking. I've got him on a rocking chair with his grandkids, great grandkids. It was November 13th.

I'm gone. No, it no, it's later than that. It's deathbed and I'm coming to interview him. One final interview. Spoh, what's your greatest regret? You remember that Pistons game, Dan? He'll remember it, but it won't be his greatest regret, but he will be in a hospital gown, but it'll be standard issue.

Make no mistake, we all end in a hospital gown. How old are you at that point, Dan? At Levitard's show, about the same age. Put it on the poll, at Levitard Show, make no mistake, do we all end in a gown. I mean, there are car accidents, we don't all end in a hospital gown. It's a poll question, let the people decide.

I've got to get to your movie, but let's just go through quickly quickly if we can, real quick. Tell me what's gonna happen with the raise and the weirdness of that stadium's not gonna be ready for next year, and it requires way too much money to get it ready anytime soon. Boy, you thought you had problems in Miami with Marlins Park and with building

the Inter-Miami Stadium by the airport at Mel-Reese. Tampa's got a real issue in St. Pete because it's gonna to cost at least 55 million to get Tropicana Field ready to go after that horrific hurricane. The problem is the Rays don't want to play there after 2027. Who would put it's like redoing

your house as you're about to raise it. Literally, you would not put that amount of money and you would just live with a bad bathroom for another couple of years. But they can't get a certificate of occupancy to play games without fixing it up after the hurricane. So they're deciding whether that money should be spent. And I don't believe it will be.

They've already said they can't play there in 2025. So Major League Baseball is going to have two teams next year playing in minor league or spring training facilities It really is staggering. How is that going to work? Like how logistically? How is that going to work? It's there's team hotels and there's planes that will land at the airports and team buses and the players will show up and it'll just Be a minor league or spring training facility It's just a lower attendance, but Oakland and Tampa don't draw anyway And if either of those teams make the playoffs next year interleague or spring training facility. It's just a lower attendance, but Oakland and Tampa don't draw anyway. And if either of those teams make the playoffs next year,

they will not play their home playoff games in front of 15,000 people. They will go to a different site with larger capacity because there's money involved. But you're saying that there are going to be two major league teams playing next season in a ballpark that seats blank, that seats 15,000? Yeah, they're both tiny. You know, the A's are playing in Sacramento. I think we were just told in the media,

we have to call it West Sacramento. So that's like making people say that Hard Rock Stadium is in Miami Gardens, which I'm pretty sure nobody says except they only want you to say it. Do you guys refer to it as Miami Gardens ever? No. Where Hard Rock is, no. You should, that's where it is. Yeah, but what distinction are you making, Miami Gardens or Miami?

Apparently Sacramento is West Sacramento where the ballpark is and not Sacramento. But these are real outposts. This is not Major League. By definition, this is so minor league as to be kind of amazing. David David what you're talking about it a bit Apocalyptic the idea that two major league franchises in a dystopian Earth that Rex's

stadiums can't play in major league parks because we've got hurricane ravaged facility and they need Taxpayers to build them a new stadium by 2028. So that too can be torn asunder by storm surge. I appreciate that you're trying to say that about both. That's the situation in Tampa, not Oakland. Oakland was just an old fashioned, we're gonna relocate because we're not getting enough money to stay in Oakland. And they need a temporary place to play

because they didn't have a lease to stay in Oakland. That's all. I'm saying symbolically, it's funny that one is ravaged by climate change and the other is just simple greed that destroys baseball forever in a great baseball town like Oakland. It's true. Now, that part is true. Oakland is as less a team, but teams relocate all the time, as you know.

And then you spend more money to get a team back. Just ask Seattle what they're trying to do with their basketball team. You always spend more money to bring a team back. Ask Montreal. They're doing the same thing than what it would cost to do with their basketball team. You always spend more money to bring a team back, ask Montreal, they're doing the same thing than what it would cost to keep it. That's one of the crazy math equations in stadium and ballpark finance that even Billy Corbin will admit

that municipalities always spend more in regret after the fact than they would have had to when the deal was happening. Do you guys agree with the assessment that teams always relocate? Because I don't think teams always relocate. No, and I don't agree with Oakland being a great baseball town.

You're making it sound like it's St. Louis. It was a great baseball town in the 80s. Yeah, when the team was good. Okay, but I mean. It's not true. Oh, David, you're gonna tell me Oakland's this great baseball town? It is.

Oh, come on. It is. It's a fantastic baseball city, as recently as the mid-teens, where when they were good, they still have a team. It's like denying that the Jets were good more recently than the Dolphins. Of course they were. It's hard to debate that. The A's had a great run. They're just in a closed window the way many teams are.

When you have a roller coaster open window, closed window. David, can you help me with this with with Stugats? Because this has been a theme today that when he doesn't care about something, it ends up being hurtful to people who do care about that thing. Baseball in Oakland leaves quietly enough that Stugatz doesn't care very much,

and while I'm not actually heartbroken, when I saw that, I'm like, oh, man, that sucks for Oakland. Like, Oakland really loved that team And that those are some fun memories there that Oakland doesn't have for a lot of sports over those years And so when still gots just sort of like waves his hand at it as if it's not something that really hurt Oakland No, what I'm saying is really what I'm debating is whether or not it's such a great baseball town I do feel bad for the A's fans that lost their team. I feel bad for any city that loses a

team that they've fallen in love with. But no one, and I mean no one, if you were to ask them top five baseball towns in America, no one would have Oakland on that list. Nobody. But no one would have Miami as a top five football city. Out of all of the 32, would Miami be a top five? But you'd be desp the 32 would Miami be a top five but you'd be despondent beyond repair if the Dolphins relocated or the Jets relocated the Jets are not a top five football loving place in Jersey. I'd be okay with that relocating actually it'd be fun. Samson you have inspired song around here Jeremy just ran out of the room created this real quick for you. There's sunglasses in boxes today, but in my bed in the hospital, ending our lives all the same.

It's the final night down. That is a killer, that is a killer joke right there at the end. I saw it coming and it still made me deeply happy to see it. I did something right? Yeah. Oh my God. I can't believe it either. I can't believe it either.

I'm just as surprised as you are. I have my top five baseball towns if you want them. All right. Number five. Final night out. Number five, New York, number four, Boston, number three, Chicago, number two, St. Louis. And number one, Montreal.

That's one hell of a list, Stu. He took a lot of time. He took a lot of time thinking about it. Put just as much energy into it as Jeremy did with the song. It's a bit of a difference around here in terms of creative output. Stu Gantz has been belching top five list for five years. Like just, we stumbled upon lazy top five list and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna carry that

the rest of the way. Showbiz, baby. Fun and games, baby. I'm just gonna make top five list the rest of the way as the dismount of my career. It'll be my final countdown. What is the movie that you're critiquing for us today, Samson?

You just missed it. You could have said that would be the final Night Gown. But it would also be the final Countdown. I had both of them there. I chose Countdown instead of Night Count because the name of the song is Countdown. And the rankings are also counting down. Like that's the final movie that I hope you have all seen.

It's called Patrice, the movie. Can I get anyone in the room? No, no, none of us have seen Patrice, the movie. What is Patrice, the movie? It is a documentary about a couple named Patrice and Gary and they are a special needs couple She is one of the most Perfect characters and human beings you will see in a movie who has her life Documented and it is about the real problems that a couple has because there are laws where they live

That they can't get married and they're madly in love and she has to take care of him. He has muscular dystrophy. She's got some disabilities as well, but she takes care of him. She's a crossing guard as well, trying to earn money. But the government is such that if you get married, you lose your federal disability payments, which is so unbelievable that it staggers me and it's contained somewhere in a 20,000 page bill that no one focuses on. And so they try to get the law changed because they want to get married, but they

can't or they will go bankrupt. And Patrice is one of the best women characters, best male best any character you'll see in a movie this year. So if you have time, please watch Patrice the movie. It doesn't sound like something that will feel very good to watch. How often do you enjoy movies that don't make you feel very good? As long as it makes me feel, I don't need to always feel very good. I want to feel something and you end up falling in love with Patrice and just feeling

for her and feeling how how how do we live in a world that has lost its finesse in this way where it's so easily fixable but they interview people in D.C. who are like listen we'll try but this is a tough one and to me no it's not tough. You should be able to get married to someone you love.

Hard stop. The reason that I bring it up is because I've been recommending the Celine Dion doc and the Michael J. Fox doc to people. But many people are like, no, man, I'm no, I don't want to feel like that. I just don't want to feel like that. I don't want to watch a movie and feel like that. Half the world puts their head in the sand and that is why the world ends up where the world is.

And it's called the ostrich head in the sand defense, which is, I had no idea this was going on. People use it in white collar crimes all the time. I had no idea. People use it in sports like Jim Crane with the Astros. I had no idea there was cheating going on. Just give me a break. It's the most ridiculous thing.

You shouldn't be allowed to use that as a defense of any kind. And if you don't want to appreciate what Michael J. Fox goes through with Parkinson's, then basically, you know, screw you and go with the life that you think you're leading. There it is, screw you. Screw you is how we punctuate the segment.

Way to go, Samson. That is the kind of love we need in a divided America right now. Screw you with David Samson. Good talking to you. It's the final nightgown. Season's Greetings, podcast audience. It's Mike Ryan. And now is that time of year where you start hosting your family gatherings, be it Thanksgiving, be it the upcoming holiday season. You're gonna have some folks in town, you're gonna be doing some entertaining. So why don't you make your family time a Miller time?

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