The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Fix Is In (feat. Pat Forde)

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

We have room for an old-fashioned journalist on the show today. Pat Forde is a senior writer for Sports Illustrated and joins the crew to discuss how many teams can truly win the CFP from this year's crop of schools, ACC vs. SEC bias, and whether or not we should even bother playing the regular season games during college football season. Then, can you retroactively award fantasy points? Billy and Stugotz both have strong takes after the Rams victory over Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills including Stugotz's take on Greg McDermott. Plus, Tom Brady loses his voice, Samson has questions for Steve Cohen, and Lucy goes Off-Rohding at the Big 10 title game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugats Podcast. I am delighted Stugats to bring on an old-fashioned journalist all over the American media they keep slicing these guys down but not Pat 40 nobody's taking him down senior writer for Sports Illustrated out here still doing the good work with Wetzel another one of these guys still waving the journalism flag but I gotta help him. Pat, your backdrop.

We can see part of your house. We can see behind the Sports Illustrated thing. We can see that there's a painting back there. We need to crop that. We need to get somebody to help you so that that looks like it's a tighter. I can see part of the picture. Look, back in the newspaper days, when you were at the Miami Herald and I was at the Louisville Courier Journal there were no backdrops,

there was no video, there was none of this. I'm out of my element. Sorry. It's okay but you're out here. It's okay. That's all right. We got to get him some help. I think we need to put a tapestry behind him, get some metal arc backing just to give him a little your sports illustrates hit hard times to get to take right at that forty that here carrying the journalism flag here very strongly is not an extra age of backdrop one of the last remaining good soldiers out there and he's watched a lot of college football and so i'd like to get his historic perspective here on whether these changes are good for anybody other than made

for television wonder and extravaganza that that these 12 games are just making football bigger and bigger and bigger because we must. Well, I mean, there's certainly that element to it. We like gigantism, right in American sports. But no, I think this is great. I love a 12 teamteam playoff, Dan, because you got more fanbases involved. Think about this last weekend where a lot of people are really interested in the Boise State UNLV Mountain West Conference Championship game. A lot of people were hanging on the edge of their seat to see SMU against Clemson. You go back, you know, a couple of weeks earlier, there were 20 teams still involved in whether they may go to the playoff,

whereas in years past, we're looking at five or six for four spots. And so I just think there's more interest, more involvement, and then the playoff itself is going to be awesome. We get campus games. Those are going to be great. We get extended quarterfinals and semifinals, it's all going to go on too long. I mean, we're not finishing until January 20th,

and I wonder how many people will still be interested by then. But I love the run-up to this point, and I think the first round is going to be awesome. I think it's been great as well, but I'm wondering, Pat, of the 12 teams that made the playoffs, how many of those 12 have a realistic chance of winning the national championship? I would give at least more than half, I would say.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Look, I think it's pretty wide open. I mean, Oregon's really good, deserved to be number one and the favorite and all that. But after that, I mean, look, the number two seed is Georgia, which we've seen just like all over the map. They've played terribly at times. They played great at times. They've played great at times. Notre

Dame could be really good, but haven't played against a really quality opponent in a while. Penn State, probably good. Texas, maybe good. You get on down the line. Arizona State, does anybody really want to play them? We're supposed to know. You're supposed to be an expert. What do you mean? We played a bunch of games. What do you mean, maybe maybe good maybe good or maybe at the end I got it all wrong about the SEC George is not actually any better than Georgia Tech yeah well that's the truth did you watch him play each other eight over times and Georgia was lucky to get the game even into one overtime there so then could I

not extrapolate that the top of the ACC might in some ways be as good as the top of the SEC because we've been overstating how good the top of the SEC is? Yeah, you can. That's why one of the reasons I thought SMU deserved to be in the game and maybe even Miami deserved to be, I'm sorry, in the playoff because I think the SEC was a bunch of pretty good teams and I don't think the a c c is bad at all at the top i think those three clinton miami s m u but then beyond that louisville

but it's not explained to me what happened here at the end pat with s m u because what clinton did was it bailed with all the parties out on e s p n in the s e c is bought a three-team uh... three loss alabama team is going to get in it bought everyone out when they could they had to put clinton and s m u both in otherwise would they have no i i i don't think so if if clinton misses the field goal obviously they're out and alabama's in

or if if if if if that's in you was the game clinton wins by fourteen points I think they probably have the excuse to put in Alabama and to knock out SMU. So this, the ACC threaded the needle it had to thread. They needed a close, competitive, good game that Clemson won. So that happened. But look, the setup was there. I'm not saying the fix was in, but the setup was there i'm not saying the fix was in but the setup was there to get alabama you are saying the fix was in your right there say say the fix was a you're right to say it these are trying times for sports illustrated in the american media just

say it just you can't be out here you can't be out here with nuanced takes patty can and i don't know what so they can't always don't win anymore no nobody's gonna listen to the podcast college football and choir with Dan Wetzel and Ross Dellinger if you're out here with the nuance podcast that's not how you keep up with the kids Pat that's a when I when I when we record the podcast that's when I'll declare that the fix is absolutely thank you they you. Now it's on your own platform. That's how you do it.

They were so close to fixing the whole thing and then Clemson got in there and now SMU. Nobody wants to see SMU play. Everybody wants to believe that what they thought about SMU before the season is what they believe now, which is that SMU is not good enough. I don't understand why we bother playing the games. Well, that's the point, right?

We actually let them play and discover, oh my gosh, preseason rankings are dumb and preconceptions are dumb and every SEC team is not better than every other team. So that's the beauty of it, you know? And I will say on that podcast, our podcast, I picked SMU to win the ACC before the season. They didn't quite get it done, but they justified how how good they are got a bunch of players from the Metroplex They're well coached and I say what's a real I told you so you gave us their pet but he was wrong Just did I knew SMU was better, but I didn't know they were that good Then they were less good than I thought they were gonna be.

And I got it wrong. Kind of covered all the bases. That's how you do it. No, but that's bull. That's total bull from Pat Ford. He got it wrong, and he's claiming he got it right when he got it wrong. I don't know, sounds kind of smart to me, Dan.

Yes. What do you make? I got it almost right, that's for sure. That's close enough in today's journalism age. That makes you a truth seeker to get it almost right. That's close enough in today's journalism age. That makes you a truth seeker to get it almost right. What about Nick Saban saying no coach should have any complaints about his circumstances being in or out of the playoffs? Yep. He made a little bit of a half-hearted defense of Alabama in the SEC and then ended up, came down on that line of, well, you lost too many games. He's right. And I think that, you know,

really in his heart of hearts, Kaelin DuBois will say, yeah, he's right because they got stomped by a mediocre Oklahoma team late in the season. Everybody saw it. I mean, you can't, if you didn't make a 12 team playoff, I'm sorry. I don't feel that sorry for you. It's just not, there weren't 12 great teams. I would say there were maybe 10, maybe 11. I'm sorry. I don't feel sorry for you. It's just not that there weren't 12 great teams. I would say there were maybe 10 maybe 11 I don't feel sorry for you Sorry, but I don't feel sorry for you then classic SMU scenario, which which is it 40 which is it? Uh, sorry don't feel sorry You don't feel sorry, but you're not sorry. I'm more confused. Clearly. you're more confused than I was when I

started he's apologizing for the fact that he does not feel bad for this he's not sorry sorry feels that way so the why thank you for the interpretation apologizing for being sorry he's not sorry this liar comes close to being almost right what can you tell us about because my source Taylor is telling me that Belichick to North Carolina it seems like it's gonna be be a done deal. What can you tell us about that story Belichick to UNC? It's fascinating. I know that enough other people have dropped out because they either they don't think they get it they're going to get it and Belichick is or they just think the place is wildly dysfunctional because you do have trustees and boosters that are

basically kind of doing their own satellite search outside of the athletic director, Bubba Cunningham. So the fact that we have a lot of coaches dropping out and Bill Belichick is one of them. That can't be his real name. Terrible name for an AD. That can't be his real name. It's not Bubba Cunningham.

Terrible name for an AD, great football name. That's simply Bubba Cunningham. What you're saying there is not true. That's not a real name. You made that up. It's a real name. The hilarious thing, if you meet him, he's a little kind of like bookish intellectual guy but his nickname is Bubba.

Makes no sense. Pat, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time. You can listen to his podcast, College Football Inquirer, with Dan Wetzel and Ross Dellinger. He really is keeping up the good fight on behalf of journalism. And don't forget the next episode, Dan. The Fix is in. That's right. We're gonna get you better at this, Pat. We've got to get some... Pat, if you do this, I will promise you our listeners will go and download everything you're doing. You have to promise them, though, that you're

going to claim publicly. You're gonna put down your journalism credentials and you're just gonna claim claim the fixes in. Doing it. The fix is in and the backdrop will be fixed. Alright, alright. Excellent. Good. Excellent work.

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For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.uk. in Ontario. Bet must win to receive reward. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.uk. Don LeBattard! You were that kind of sad this morning taking the barrage of anger from Stugatz because you hadn't booked him enough interviews. The only reason I keep bringing this up is because you are throwing a big party on Thursday. You're doing it and I want people to support what you're doing because Stu gots has not made this easy Stu gots um well you know I well yeah you know this is the done libertar show

with a Stu gots I believe we have talked enough college football. Sampson's still furious with us. He's prowling like a very small shih tzu around the offices. Can we go to him? Because this is the big story of the day, Stu Gotts. We have not gotten to football. My God, how fun was it to watch Josh Allen and the Rams? How fun was that game?

Yeah, we have not gotten to the NFL. Shame on us. We haven't gotten to yesterday. the Giants had an interception I only tell you this because there have been 11 games since they had had an interception I only tell you that because it had never happened before in the history of the sport where a defense had gone 11 games straight without an Interception when people are throwing a football all over the place. They were do can I tell you a bone? I have to pick with with the Josh Allen situation? So Josh Allen yesterday had a three rushing touchdown game,

three passing touchdown game, something no one has ever done before. Right, he had I think an average, over 50 fantasy points for a quarterback. And then you get the stat that comes out and says Josh Allen had the most stats, or the most fantasy points by a quarterback since 1950 there is no fantasy anything in 1950 he had the most ever we're not going back and

retroactively giving fantasy points to quarterbacks for games that they had in 1950 that's not a thing I mean you can do that though because we have the box score stats you just go ahead and calculate fantasy is this just you trying to segue into your listener league because you're dying to talk Oh, I forgot about that our listener league. You mean Dan we were part of it this You don't know how you did I picked the team. I got a Tyler Murray that didn't go well. I had the Eagles defense Well, I don't know where I finished well Dan, Dan, you can check out our weekly contest.

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Dan, I was in 495th place when I was on stage yesterday. Yep. 495 and I said I'm gonna need a big push in this four o'clock window. I got that push. I finished in 59th just out of the money but man, Josh Allen, he's a good football player. You would want to have him yesterday.

You've come around on Josh Allen. Okay, so I do wanna talk about this Rams game because Mike Ryan loves those half points and Mike Ryan couldn't shut up yesterday about how much he loved the Rams in that game because I think we can all agree on that football's wacky enough college or pros, but the Rams they can beat anybody If they're healthy, yeah, no, but because it's not just that they can beat everybody. It's also oh Wait a minute. I'm just watching a play against

Buffalo and Cooper Cup is not really open there are two bills there and he's got a touchdown and they're both injured because they've gotten so precise at that that pookin akua we're going to use up his body to see if we can spend all of this body on getting him all the cooper numbers when both of us are all of us have watched that team and been like how are those receivers putting up those kind of numbers which make us serenade pulka with his song because he was exceptional yesterday his name is

cool good running carol but when his hand he's so cool standing there possible no

into the car they have made Hustle takeover, Nakua hopped into the car McVeigh has maybe found a star and then that staffer threw him 25 and 2 Oh there's a brand new kid in town out of VYU They call him Pooka, Pooka Nakua His quarterback is not named Pua Yeah he is Pooka, Pooka Nakua I remember what happened week one when those two teams got together and the Rams were reasonably healthy. That's why I'm gonna keep doubling down on this NFC West. There's really good teams in that. We saw San Francisco kind of wake up. They're down to their maybe four string running back now, but they're going to get production from that position. It stinks what happened to McCaffrey, but these are good coaches.

There's talent there. There's players that have done the winning and in a one game sample against the Detroit Lions when the Detroit Lions Don't have this loss that we all agree. They desperately you all agree. I don't agree with that You guys think the game I don't agree. No, the Lions need a loss They desperately need a loss the right not the Chiefs though. The Chiefs don't need a loss No, no, she's don't need a loss the Lions just the Lions they they can't go away They can't go in as a one-loss team is what you guys are arguing They cannot go in on a winning streak that makes the expectations that they've won 16 straight or whatever it is

Yeah, they they desperately need a loss and they really do it I will tell you as it relates to the Bills and Rams game that game is on Sean McDermott I said this during God Bless Football, so I'm telling you right now, he is going to be the reason Josh Allen doesn't win a Super Bowl. What do you mean you said this on God Bless Football? You're giving us a recycled take here? It needs to be said. It needs to be said. It was said over there. It doesn't need to be said over here if you already said it over there. Well, I said it. I said it. Well, you're going to say that it's on McDermott, but this

is what I would ask you. How many coaches in the league have the pedigree and the confidence and the job security to do what it is that McVeigh did when he's up 38-35 and it's fourth and three and he's like I'm not kicking a field goal here and then losing to Josh Allen running right back down the field. I'm going for it on fourth and four because I trust my quarterback. I don't want to be leading by six. six I'm going for it you tell me all the coaches in the league because I don't have a lot of them I for all this fourth down math that we're now doing there are only a few four or five the Harbaugh and Campbell guys who I actually trust with no I'm gonna do this because I trust my offense and I trust

my guys every time right and I'm not doing field goal football anymore then we had the situation yesterday in the Dolphins game We're really dolphins are marching down the field and it was fourth down and say should they kick it or should they go for a touchdown? And we opened the pole up to the audience and there was a coward in the back with an ginger beard I go for one there kick kick. No first use first. You said kick the field goal. They went for the touchdown They got the touchdown now. They're down to you go for one to go for two Everyone the crowd says go for two there's one coward in the back with a ginger beard It says go for one time on that clock

My favorite part they go for two they get the two you know what this coward does he says he wasn't in In look there was a lot of time left on that clock you guys were all taking the easy stance I was doing the difficult decision. They would have missed overtime by a point. Yeah. They could have got the ball back. It would have cost them the game. Billy Sanders missed an extra point,

but Sanders, who you hate, and I now associate, anytime he misses, I just look for wherever you are in the world. AFC player, special teams player month last month. I was just gonna say, Sanders has the longest active streak in the league of made field goals. You've got the most consistent kicker in the entire league because Billy has an eye on him I mean, yeah feeling the pressure things picked up after we offered to help him move out of town

If I were writing tell me something about this here if I were writing comedy before the season's to gods And I said you're never gonna believe what I'm gonna do here. This is what I'm gonna do I'm gonna pay a broadcaster three hundred seventy five million dollars and he's gonna have no experience in being a broadcaster man put him on the biggest game because he's a winner guy and he's winner and everybody wants to be around the weather but i'm again so much power that he's going to buy a portion of the raiders and

because of that he's not going to be in the production meetings where he can be as prepared as any of the other announcers who are doing this professionally and as an added bonus on a really important game that's a lot of fun late in the season you know what's gonna happen he's gonna lose his voice very early in the broadcast would I be writing comedy would I be writing how it is that things could go wrong for Tom Brady how many other announcers have you seen try to slug their way through a game with a voice that they have lost because Tom Brady's voice didn't work correctly yesterday. He fought the entire game,

but it was totally distracting game that was otherwise really worth watching. It's really not the voice you're paying for, it's the presence. I mean. The funny thing is is I actually thought it was his best game when he could get the words out. He did seem to, he's finally getting the note He's blasted McDermott stop talking before the next play like that's really the only note and he finally seems to be getting a little Better at that what McDermott did was egregious and Brady called him out for it because they had three timeouts left And it was first and goal you do not run a running play there It all has to be passing plays. You

either catch it, touchdown, or you drop it and no time goes off the clock. He cost his team a chance to win the game. And that's what you can't do as a coach. You cannot cost Josh Allen, who is out there doing the things that he's doing, getting you back into the game. And because of your boneheaded decision at the end of the game, that's the reason Josh doesn't win. Now, Stu, guys, I just want to confirm what you said earlier. You said the Bills will never win a championship as long as Greg McDermott is their coach. No, Sean.

Sean. Same thing. Yeah. So which did he say? Which, what, what are you asking him? I mean, you, you get it? I think it was a means mistake. No, that's fine.

It was. I'm saying that Josh Allen will not win a Super Bowl as long as Sean McDermott is his head coach Major penalty five minutes for stumbling What in stumble I just got it wrong I said it kind of smooth. I hope it's Samson Samson wants to talk So to go go listen to whatever it is don't want to talk to him I'm gonna tune in you know what I'd like to do right now I'd like you to sit in the penalty box with David Sampson And I'd like him to give you all of his Soto information that he didn't get to give us earlier in the show

What is I mean? I don't need you back now. You can just go this really quickly what you just sentenced me to do That is the ingredients for humble pie. Okay, it's supposed to be a punishment. So then does Amin come back and give us all of Sampson's thoughts on this? No, I want to hear, I want to listen in on what it is that Sampson has to say to Amin while they sit in the penalty box together. But do you guys not find it funny that Brady lost his voice and fought through the game? And we can talk about all the details in that game. To me, the takeaway as the bills loses

in the air of lamar jackson wins all the mvp is man how is it that this guy gets to romp through second or second there's looking like more of an athlete than everyone he's playing against when i know the kind of athlete that boasts are in what's our end and miles garrett is in and the people who are chasing him belt and max cross be like how is and the people who are chasing him Bount and Max Crosby like how is it possible that this guy just gallops through secondaries he's gonna throw for touchdowns he's gonna run for touchdowns and it's gonna hurt to tackle it like nobody's gonna want to tackle it.

I've been totally screwed by Boris in this very regard where you think that he doesn't have the years but he does and then you try to get information, but it's collusion So you can't and so you're in a piss amine. Are you listening and then and then you're hello I can't get the show to listen just two minutes. You're in here So then the question is no, but I okay, but just two minutes if Steve Cohn has information about yeah I don't really want more information and data money. Well, this is the thing This is the thing help me out here with the tensions around the show and every time david samson appears for a week this is the this is the tension i have and it's and it really is philosophical

i'm telling you that what he does with john skipper what he does daily on sports business is fascinating but i keep getting told that every turn that while we talk about money all the time in sports and so dole common change everything about how we talk about it that people don't want to talk about stadium deals and collective bargaining agreements that when we actually get into the weeds of what the business of this is

people don't actually want to know what it means that the dodgers are deferring a billion dollars a billion dollars everything around city fields! Everything around Citi Field. And that's where the money is. The casino, getting rid of the chop shops. That video we saw earlier in the show of the guy being upset, I think it's just, stay with me. Think about the deal, the return on investment

that Steve Cohn is looking at. The team's worth more. It's an absolute deal that makes sense. But getting the- He's so fascinated by the business of this, do you realize? It's Boris. Well, I drove in, I drove with him and Koka,

his producer, and they were asking me, what is the easiest day for you? And I'm like, Monday, it's a light lift, we don't have to do anything. And they're like, oh, we don't talk about football at all. Football barely makes our show on Monday. And I'm like, you're doing it all wrong. Everything you're doing is wrong.

And he's like, but we're doing business, business. We're talking business. And Soto, the Soto deal broke. And I'm like, you gotta talk football. You gotta, they're like, there's one key ingredient in this space. One, just talk football. And he wants to talk about the business of Soto

and he's more qualified to talk about it than just about anybody in the business that's got a microphone. But it's weird, the show's called Nothing Personal and it's totally tainted by personal disaster. Before you put that in your brain, you don't realize this impacts basketball. All the contracts that are done with players who stink,

it's now infecting baseball. But there's a cap in basketball, not in baseball. It's incredible actually how cool it is. I think what we should be discussing is, is baseball ahead of basketball or behind? Because I could argue now it's actually ahead. So Carolyn Davidson sold the Nike Swoosh for $35 to Phil Knight.

And what I'm asking you is, how does she feel about that now? Is it a source of pride as she walks around and it she feel about that now? Is it a source of pride as she walks around and it's on every shirt? It's not a source of pride. Like are you asking if she's thinking about it every single day and it's gnawing at her kind of like that lost at Spohaev? Is it a Black Mirror episode of how you haunt an artist or graphic designer, you sell their work for $35 or you buy it for $35, you make it ubiquitous, but everywhere you go, you're being reminded and haunted by the terrible business decision that you made.

It's an episode, I'd like, if she's still with us, I would like to speak to her about how it is that she experiences selling the Nike Swoosh for $35. Just get a nice old trauma pump from her. Sicko. Or just fine with it because the artist can say you can't put a price on being a ubiquitous symbol that you created. You should be the most identified branding in the world.

And Phil Knight was ahead of everybody on Mike Ryan gets to buy his quarterback in NIL. Phil Knight was getting college football cheap 15 years ago when he was making the play calls from the Skybox. I believe she gave them credit for giving her her first big break. Also she got 500 shares at the time and then got splitting and stuff like that.

It ended up being 32,000 shares which is about three million dollars. And I've confirmed she is indeed still alive. I'd like to speak to her. What do you think Mike crime of lame kiffin tweeting god if this wasn't look at me louis he he was congratulating georgia on winning the conference and he's like fifty seven and four since twenty twenty

only four losses that's amazing three to alabama one to all mess all in kiffin out there reminding you that in the last four years it's only alabama and him that have been ge Georgia. But if not for one of those bad officiating calls in an eight overtime game, we might all be saying that Georgia Tech is just as good as Georgia. Well, remind them that he lost to two teams. I lost to Miami and Louisville by a combined 50 points. Let's check in with Lucy Rodine.

She was off-roading at the Big Ten Championship. What did that look and sound like? ["The Big Ten Championship Game"] When Rose was pepper sprayed last week, a lot of things happened. We laughed, she cried, and something we really didn't talk about enough was not because of Rose getting pepper sprayed, but the events that occurred before.

The Big Ten Championship game now looks completely different. Ohio State is not here. Penn State is. And you can tell. Ohio State fans bought up, like, all the tickets for this game. Clearly didn't need them anymore. So everyone's just really happy to be here. They weren't expecting any of this. Tickets are going for, like, $20.

Vibes are odds. Vibes are odds. Did you ever think you'd see Oregon playing in the Big Ten Championship game? No, no. I thought it would be in the Rose Bowl. Did we think we would be here? We did not. No, but here we are.

Not a chance. No. No. What was your reaction when Michigan beat Ohio State? You're a f***ing static. F*** Ohio State! We don't give a f*** about Ohio State! They're so sh- oh my god.

Ohio State choked, thank you. Thanks to them over there. Thanks to them over there. Yeah, I think it was the first time we've ever rooted for Michigan. Ever. I was doing the happy dance. It was a good way to start the day. Ohio State sucks.

I hate Ohio. I was in a house full of Buckeye fans and I went nuts, man. It was a good way to start the day. Ohio State sucks. I hate Ohio. I was in a house full of Buckeye fans and I went nuts, man. It was great. I've got so many friends that are Buckeye fans and it was speechless. It was like, oh my God, what in the hell just happened? Were you taunting or were you nice about it? A little bit.

Were you happier about that or the fact that you guys would be in the Big Ten Championship game? Ohio State lost. The game? Ohio State lost. The fact that Ohio State lost. I hate them. We hate Ohio State. That's a tough one. I want to say the Ohio State lost because it's a big one. Very nice bunch here today. Everyone's been incredibly friendly. Which is not what we're looking for. It's bad content for everyone to be nice.

Now I have a take. The Big Ten needs Big Ten West fans. The vibes here, they're not hitting the way they do when Iowa's here. Who cares about the game? We make tailgate content. I haven't seen anybody throw up yet today. Nebraska, Iowa. We need them here. I love seeing Iowa lose by 40. It's awesome. And we're very good at it. I think if Iowa were here, everyone would be having a good time.

I don't know about that. I don't like Iowa. Why? Not a fan of them. Why? Just haven't been for years. Why? I just don't know about that. I don't like Iowa. Why? I'm not a fan of them. Why? I just haven't been for years. Why? I just don't. Why? Are you from Iowa? Not gonna answer that question. We've never done anything wrong. We're very lovely, nice people. Iowa may lose by 45 in this game, but everyone be having a good time. We'd be out in the streets, in the tailgates with the people. These two fan bases, I can't do s***.

Smells really bad. James Franklin's a fraud. He's not good. I'm a James Franklin fan. I'm a Franklin fan. He's really good at winning ten regular season games, and then he'll just lose the games that matter. James Franklin's gonna show the world today that he can win the big game.

You guys booed James Franklin at the game or no? Of course we did. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. If we lose to Franklin, we ride or die with him. If he wins this game, we love him. If he loses this game, we hate him. If he loses this game, we hate him.

He's a whore. It's a love-hate relationship. Can you just tell me about your sign you brought here today? Pretty much Ohio State sucks. And the last time that they beat Michigan was pre-COVID. Ryan Day is the greatest acclamation to the Michigan Wolverines of all time. Ohio State, do not fire Ryan Day. Ohio State sucks.

They are garbage. The only thing that is fun to do in Ohio is leave. All jokes aside, they've been really nice. What on that mindset? What on that mindset? Hand pulls up in shorts. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. What the f***? I love Oregon. It's awesome there. It's one of the best states ever. By the way, it's very pretty. Pennsylvania sucks. Also, Penn State sucks. They don't deserve to be here. Everyone thought Ohio State would be here. I wish that they would, so that it would be a good game. But why are you wearing shorts though?

That's like super valid of them to have brought on. I mean, it's just not that cold. Penn State fans out here arguing that middle of Pennsylvania is better to live in than beautiful coastal Oregon who wants to live in Oregon lots of people they're delusional and no one is moving to central Pennsylvania as a retirement destination no one is moving to central Pennsylvania as a retirement destination. No one is moving to central Pennsylvania to retire. The amount of people retiring to northern coastal Oregon to retire, it's not a lot, but it's not zero. Do you think Oregon belongs in this conference or no?

We're about to prove them wrong tonight. They do not belong here. Yeah, hey, welcome to the Big Ten. We'll show you the door out. So there you have it, Dan. Oregon won the Big Ten Championship their first year in the conference. Their first year. Some teams have been there a really, really long time and haven't done that yet. Doesn't seem fair, does it? Doesn't seem fair. Lucy Rodin, Iowa correspondent. I got to tell you, Oregon may have won that game game Dan, but that was not Big Ten football. That's true

That was that's you get 45 37. I need 17 so long. Yeah, certain to all game Come on everybody block better than them What's going on with all these neon colors running up and down the field the way Oregon's been playing football out west What comes this way? We're all about the snow. You can't come in here this time of year and just gallop all over the field. Who are these fast kids? What is happening around here?

It's about beef and blocking football. Can you please get for me, because Lucy did a great job again all season. Those are harder to do than you can imagine. It's why more people don't do them. But she failed this week because there wasn't enough pepper spray and there wasn't enough Rose couldn't stop this song was stuck in my head all weekend

couldn't get rid of it There was no need for flappers prayed to be rained on me And I sustained all our time left, I injured Ohio, I sustained such drama you lost, that's the deal The video clearly shows with my eye almost blinded There's Harry and Lucy laughing Baby, I can tell you that I'm pissed staying in Roseville this spring Oh, she sounded like a goose who stepped on with heels to yell Even though Rose was in doom There's Harry and Lucy laughing

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