The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Greg vs. Lucy Feud

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Greg, Mike, and Dan lead the crew through a discussion on Pat Riley's comments at yesterday's year-end press conference and what it could mean for the future of Jimmy Butler in Miami. Then, Pablo Torr...e is here to chat with us about eye boogers, hear about Lucy's remarkably detailed dental routine, to shame the crew for not advancing their cleansing technology, and to teach us about harness racing. Plus, after a conversation about makeup proves Greg wrong, he lashes out and ends up in a feud with Lucy. Will Greg apologize? For anything...? Ever......? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:38 voice is largely Spolstra's in public he says something that Spolstra would not say you'd never hear Spolstra would not say. You'd never hear Spolstra say that. If you're not playing, you should just shut up. Just shut your mouth. Keep your mouth shut. And Chris Cody said there is difference, there is a difference between saying keep your mouth shut and shut your mouth. And I don't think Jimmy Butler is gonna make whatever that distinction is. I would be bothered as a proud adult to have anyone tell me to shut my mouth in public if they're someone who's my boss. I would prefer that they would tell me that in private.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But what are Greg Cody's thoughts as you see that, because I imagine given your general mustiness that you will side with management telling labor to shut the hell up. In this case i do but i will say it was a very old school old person reaction by pat riley because it speaks to a day if you weren't available if you were not there competing if you were there for your teammates you got nothing to say about anything and personally
Starting point is 00:02:40 i've got a little bit of jimmy butler fatigue uh... it look he's he's had a successful five-year heat career. No question about they've reached two finals with him I'm not saying it's unsuccessful by any means, but I am saying he's missed a quarter of the games He's played 26 percent. I think he they just can't rely on him And so when he's asking for a two-year extension that would pay him whatever 57 million dollars two years from now when he's gonna be 36 going-year extension that would pay him whatever, $57 million, two years from now when he's going to be 36 going on 37. With two years left on his contract.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah. I don't know that that's a wise investment for a guy that you can't count on. And that was Riley's underlying image. And he is speaking for Spolstra because Spolstra's got to deal with the fallout. If we can't count on you for 70 games, 65, 70 games, including when it counts in the playoffs, then we can't count on you for 70 games, 65, 70 games, including when it counts in the playoffs, then we can't count on you. I've mentioned a number of different times, and he has said it in a way that's not up for dispute.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I've mentioned that Pat Riley does not like that $500,000, $600,000 a game is what Jimmy Butler is paid, and he's not available for those games as much as the Miami Heat would like Because he comes from a different time and the idea of not always Playing isn't something that he understands when you're being paid that way I mean Dan his offseason started with that press conference Riley's did he's negotiating and he's telling Jimmy Hey If you want to stay here if you want me to even think about an extension he said he's not thinking about it
Starting point is 00:04:09 i need to play more said you know but he said look you're right that the negotiations have started that you're right about because butler has leverage he is now using it publicly not only by doing what he did uh... in the paddock at the f one race but also with his agent saying it like all of that leaking was we've got maximum leverage here because look at what happened against the celtics when he played and look what happened when he didn't but the counter publicly from pat riley is no trade no extension like i know people are going to concentrate on the just shut
Starting point is 00:04:45 your mouth, but what he said yesterday is no trade, no extension. And the negotiation has already begun. All right. And if you think playing hardball publicly would Jimmy Butler go as well, I just pointed Jimmy Butler's career because he has shown that he can make a huge public mess of things. So when you see Pat is a smart guy. Pat has gone into these postseason press conferences with agendas. He's done this twice before, challenged a superstar before they had while they had contract stuff going out going on with them. He did it with LeBron. Yep. And he did it with Dwayne Wade. He issued them public challenges.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Right. Do you know how those worked out? LeBron wasn't on the with Dwayne Wade. He issued them public challenges. Do you know how those worked out? LeBron wasn't on the team and Wade wasn't on the team. Maybe that's the intent because Pat's a smart guy. He put the sprinkles on the ice cream sundae there with the shut your mouth or keep your mouth shut. What a semantics game of that. I do wonder how much leverage an aging injury prone jimmy butler has i i wonder that two years left on his contract right you got an extension from the heat already at the very least they can put off this for another year and they were the reason the reason that he has
Starting point is 00:05:57 leverage and i understand why this is a discussion uh... the reason that he has leverages because of how hard it is to get people like that. You may think it's easy in Miami, it has not been easy recently, and it's not been easy since they got him. But isn't the majority of the selling, like the friends would be coming to play with Bam, right? Isn't that what everybody says is everyone wants to play
Starting point is 00:06:19 with Bam, not Jimmy as much? That's, and that's usually like a big counterpoint. I know Jeremy mentions like all these stars, Donovan Mitchell Mitchell Damien Lillard. They don't mention Jimmy They mentioned BAM I think also in part of that is they know that they can come to this team and BAM's not going to be the alpha I think they want to play with BAM because they can just take the team from BAM and be the guy But you can't win an NBA championship if Jimmy Butler is your best player I don't mean to be a broken record on that up to the finals Greg. I understand
Starting point is 00:06:44 He's got them to the finals a broken record and got into the finals correct i understand that the final ranking again he got the southern island is not do this i'd at the reason i want to just stop this is because it feels in some ways like the tana hill discussion for five years we have been both right and wrong on the assessment of that can't be your number one and you in a championship and yet two of those years, they would have won a championship
Starting point is 00:07:08 if against the Lakers in the bubble, it had been the Lakers who had the same injuries that Miami had with Bam and Gorin. Two of their best three player. Being out and if I, if you get, look, the hope, the hope that the Knicks have, the greatest hope that the Knicks have of winning the championship is that the same way that yonis and imbeed went down
Starting point is 00:07:28 is that you're still standing around playing games and yokich goes down or carl anthony towns goes down it's the greatest hope you have so they could have won a championship like they were three victories away but what they needed is somebody on denver to get hurt they weren't good enough they need to be playing games and somebody gets hurt and It cannot be stated that the experiment has shown us that what we thought at the beginning is True at the end, which is Jimmy Butler as your best player has not been good enough to win a championship But in that time we felt wrong about that because there
Starting point is 00:08:05 was a minute or longer than a minute where Jimmy Butler was what Jalen Brunson is right now. Let's just call it. We were wrong on Jimmy Butler. No, no, wrong on Jimmy Butler. And like the argument that was just made was Jimmy Butler could be good enough to get you a championship if the other team was hurt, which tells you he's not good enough to win you a champion. He's our one. Hasn't been. I never thought Jimmy Butler was a guy who could be your number one player and lead you to the NBA finals. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Right. We're wrong from that regard. I'm not changing the argument. It is. It's a complicated one, and that's why it's been kind of annoying and wearing on the audience a little bit, because yeah, he's a confusing player. He's not good enough for a championship, which is what the organization fans alike all want, but he also made it. He also proved us spectacularly wrong and that no one knew he had that in him. But there's nothing
Starting point is 00:08:51 wrong with what Riley said because Jimmy Butler, since he's joined the Heat, has not played more than 64 games in a season. Riley wants his superstar to be out there as many times per season as he can be out there. And to that point, Sue Godds, he went along with this game complaining in secret. They, they, and, and in, in that press conference, they made it super public. No one likes this load management thing. And it's one thing if it actually worked, but what happened? Jimmy got hurt and Jimmy got hurt specifically because he pump faked on a layup! The load management thing does work, I guess, if your star doesn't get hurt, but when your star is also not available for when you need them to actually catch those chips in, then you start
Starting point is 00:09:38 becoming very annoyed. And all those concessions that you've made and all those discomforts that you've tolerated with Jimmy Butler because Greg mentioned Jimmy Butler fatigue. When it's going good, he wears on you. It's not easy. This has been the least turbulent time in his career and it's not without a lot of work. He's a tough person to get along with for both teammates, the coaching staff, and the front office. And if you're going to get diminished returns on that, then you
Starting point is 00:10:02 might want to capitulate. One of the reasons Pat Riley was right is that if you think Boston would have lost to Miami if Miami had Butler, huge leap of faith. And I don't think the betting odds would have backed you up on that. Boston's that much a better team than Miami is, even with Butler going Jimmy, playoff Jimmy. I believe that the single greatest thing that could have happened to Jimmy Butler's leverage is what happened which is he got injured we didn't get to see it all dismantled by a team in Boston that is better and so now
Starting point is 00:10:35 he gets to argue that I would have won it's like it was a good injury it's like Stu gots his 6'6 all of a sudden and he's Jimmy Butler with a drink at an F1 race which is like all those games I didn't play in I would have won all of them. I understand the spin I get it and I think largely most people would agree with you I actually think it's not good for him because he went out there pumped his chest it's time now now it's he time and it doesn't matter who we play we're gonna win the championship and you got her pump faking on a layup. I think that's a bad look for Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I don't think he actually has the leverage that the optics and the social media currency would suggest. I think that that was bad. Not as bad as the look would have been. He had five, six for 19 games and couldn't get off the ground anymore. Yeah, but he couldn't get off the ground and that's why he got her.
Starting point is 00:11:23 But Dan is saying there's still some mystery. Yeah, I guess. That he tries to undo with a drink in his hand in an F1 race. Like, I would have won in five. Yeah, but his body broke down before he could even get there. That's correct. So it's like, I think it's even more, you can make an argument as more. No, but you look at what happened and you're like, well, okay, that just happened to Tyler Hero. And what happened is they lost in five games and had a hard time getting to 80 points. Might've been different if Jimmy had been out there.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He challenged Spoh too. He said, Spoh needs to take a deep dive on the offense. And then he mentioned defense too, but we all know what was plugging this scene. But I would say like, Pat, I know you're running the show there and it's not on you necessarily to take a shot at yourself, but while you're issuing challenges over there
Starting point is 00:12:08 and you want people to be available, how about we stop whiffing? And not just on the superstars, on the Siakams of the world, on the OGs of the world. How about we actually help the coach while he's doing his deep dive on the offense with pieces that could help the offense? Oh, he's helped the coach bloody, Mike. Why didn't it work out for John Cicada?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Coach has done so much for that guy's legacy. What hasn't worked out for John Cicada? As a solo act. I mean, he was there, Miami Sound Machine. He was like the up and comer. He had a hit or two just another day. I feel like it's worked out pretty good for John Cicada. It worked.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He hasn't put out new music since 2017. Doesn't have to. That's what I'm saying. Let's go, John. Exactly. What's he up to? He had a star at the Clevelander on their like floor inside the bar or whatever. Since then, what have we heard from him?
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's time. Mm-hmm. Pick up your game, Zagata. Just another day. How about today, John? What are we doing? Zagatky. And you know it.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You do, and you know it. See, Dan? He needed the energy there and he brought it. You do, and you know it! See, Dan? He needed the energy there and he brought it. That's right. He doesn't waste it on unimportant things. Don't waste it. If I go high in the register, and you know it, it's a serious matter. Mike Ryan, incidentally, has now talked directly to Aaron Echblad and Pat Riley on the show as if they're podcasting. Hey guys, it's Tony. Aaron Echblad and Pat Riley on the show as if they're podcasting. Hey guys, it's Tony. I am very, very, very excited about the NBA playoffs. They have been incredible so far. Taylor, producer on the show, thanks to Game Time, took a 28-hour train ride to a Knicks
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Starting point is 00:14:42 your solution here? It's a fake event. It's like not even real. Stugats! Dad, you had a shoeneral. Those were my deck shoes of long standing. Real shoes. No, no, no. I am with you, Greg. What's wrong with that? He got me on that one. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. We bring in Pablo Torre, who is live from just getting out of bed, it looks like. That is a very specific look, and that is not the look of, I woke up right now and I walked around the house a little bit. That's the look of rolled out of bed, turned and I walked around the house a little bit. That's the look of, rolled out of bed, turned on the computer.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I think he goes for that look. Yeah, I definitely, definitely, this is a stylistic Med Gala-esque strategy. If you look the corners of my eyes, I believe, do you guys call them eye boogers? What do we call these things that are sort of like crusting in the corners? Eye crusties.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Crusties? Yeah. That's too cute of a name. It's disgusting. Eye boogers, what do we call these things that are sort of like crusting in the corner? Eye crusties. Yeah. Crusties? Yeah. That's too cute of a name. It's disgusting. Yeah, you gotta call it something that makes you feel disgusted. Yeah, I got some gunk.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Amin has called me out immediately. I was in bed, unfortunately. What do you guys do with that piece when you get it in your, you just flick it? I mean, usually I get it when I'm washing my face. You got it in between your fingers, just a little flick. In the sink, usually I get it when I'm washing my face. You got it in between your fingers, just a little flick. In the sink.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So I've matured. What I do is I sort of like put it on a spot on a table nearby. That's worse. I just sort of like create a little pile. Yeah, I do that. Greg knows what's up. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Thank you, Pablo. I do the same. Do you go back and revisit? Yeah, I have a little spot, a collection, if you will, and I later will then go take a paper towel and I'll just clean all that stuff out. Oh, wait. So how frequent are the cleanings? This is where it gets tricky.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Sometimes I forget. But it's always in the same spot. There's a predictability, I would say again, a maturity to the strategy. Cause otherwise, you're right. You're flicking it into the presumed infinity that is your home. Because I'm never gonna see this thing again.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I'm just gonna flick it over there as if like we're all polluting in the ocean. And then later you realize, oh, I'm surrounded by my own boogers. Yeah, you run into it and it's like seven feet tall now and has abandonment issues. It was my fault. How do you brush your teeth?
Starting point is 00:17:12 We were talking about this earlier and Greg was about to tell us why it's very important to brush your teeth very hard and then Lucy said, no, you should not, you should do it a lot softer. But Greg never told us why it was important to do it hard. We kind of got a bit derailed Like can Greg explain before I co-sign anything Greg says as a general principle I have please tell me more before I co-sign Greg. I think we use too much water
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's a waste of water in terms of brushing the teeth. I think if you dry brush I think the teeth enjoy that more, you know, it's not as comfortable The mouth feel is awkward until you get used to it, but it's better for the teeth enjoy that more. You know, it's not as comfortable. The mouth feel is awkward until you get used to it, but it's better for the teeth, which is why you're doing it. So I did invest once. I'll get to my answer in a second. I did invest once in buying a water pick. You guys familiar with the water pick?
Starting point is 00:17:56 I have one. I shot myself in the eye with mine. We haven't had a good relationship since. Dangerous game. I was one and done. I was one and done with the water pick. It was the pressure was too high. It was spraying everywhere. Yeah. I couldn't control it. It hurt. It actually hurt me. You have to use it in the shower. That's not like gingerbread. It ain't supposed to hurt. You have to, yeah. That's a good point Juju.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Juju brings up a valid concern which is that my strategy when I go to the dentist, I don't know if you guys are like this, I have a dentist appointment actually this Friday, thanks for reminding me. My dentist appointment, I always brush more thoroughly than I have all year. The big brush. The day of. Yeah, the big brush.
Starting point is 00:18:38 The big brush. Yeah, yeah. And then you floss, so that when they ask you when's the last time you floss, you said today, this morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Plausible deniability is the name of the dentist game. A deniability that is erased upon contact
Starting point is 00:18:54 with any instrument which immediately causes me to bleed from my mouth like Nicola Jokic's arms. You know what I do? I don't like lying to my dentist because I feel like everybody lies to the dentist. So when they say like, how often do you floss? I'll just say something along the lines of, not as often as I'd like to, or not as much as I should.
Starting point is 00:19:13 That way I'm not saying never, and I'm not saying every day because they'll know the answer. I'll just be like, not as often as I should. Yeah, that's good. The vague lie is the way to go. It's the truth. It's not as often as I should. The answer's never, but it's not as often as I should. Yeah, that's good. The vague lie is the way to go. It's the truth. It's not as often as I should.
Starting point is 00:19:25 The answer's never, but it's not as often as I should. I am like Billy in that I too almost immediately apologize to the dentist. Like I should be better. You should be really like saying you're welcome. I know you've told me some stuff before and I haven't done it. Yeah, I hand up.
Starting point is 00:19:42 This is on me. What's about to happen here, the blood is on me. I have the most insane dental routine. I don't have to lie to my dentist. He loves me. He thanked me profusely for how much I floss. So I start by doing oil pulling where I swish oil around in my mouth.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What? What? No, it's really good for like preventing gum disease and like helping keep your teeth clean. Oil. Yeah, oil. It's like oil pulling oil. So I get, I your teeth clean. Oil. Yeah oil. It's like oil pulling oil so I get. What kind of oil? It's I don't know I got it on Amazon and it's like. Like Valvoline? No it's meant for, some people use coconut oil but it's meant for like cleaning out your teeth. It's called like Guru Nanda or something and it
Starting point is 00:20:21 works wonders. So then I do that, then I spit it out, and then I floss, then I use my water flosser, and then I do a tongue scrape. Then, yeah, I had bad teeth growing up, so I take really good care of my teeth now. And then I do mouthwash, and then I brush my teeth, and I don't rinse it out, and I keep the stuff there. And if I do have a cavity coming in,
Starting point is 00:20:46 or they're like, hey, watch out, at the end I get a little bit of, like a little flosser, and I put toothpaste on it, and then I put it in between the teeth, and I leave the toothpaste there overnight. You do the big brush every day. Yeah, and when I went to the dentist,
Starting point is 00:20:58 I almost thought my dentist was gonna cry. He was like, thank you so much for flossing, like thank you. They told me my teeth were great. Everyone lies to me. Wow. No cavities, no gum disease. Look at these pearly whites.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Oh, and the oil pulling whitens your teeth. What do you spend, like, two hours a morning on your teeth? It takes it. Overall, so I do it when I'm in the shower. So I do my oil pulling when I'm in the shower. So you just have to, like, combine the activities. I'm fascinated by the idea of doing all that before you brush. I'm a, I idea of doing all that before you brush.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I brush first. Mouthwash before brush is crazy. Crazy. That's crazy. Wait, hold on. Do you like brush your teeth first thing when you wake up or do you eat? Because if you do that right when you wake up,
Starting point is 00:21:37 then you immediately dirty your teeth and you don't do that whole thing again. No, this is all my nighttime routine. I don't do this twice a day. I just, in the morning, I just brush my teeth. Like that a day. I just, in the morning I just brush my teeth. Like that's it. The nighttime, that's when I do the full extent. I'm a late bloomer to brushing in the shower.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I didn't start doing it until a couple years ago. It killed two birds. No way. No way. There's something about the ritual of staring at myself in the mirror and brushing. You need to be at a sink. Yeah, you gotta spit in the sink or else it's not real.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You have to look at yourself and say, what happened to me? When you're sink. Yeah, you got a spit in the sink You don't have to look at yourself and say what happened to me when you're brushing your teeth You're not doing it right Before we get to the latest episode of Pablo Torre finds out where are you with your Nick fandom Pablo? Where are we right now? Oh, he's back all of a sudden I thought we thought we left him in Philly if I allow him to be back. I thought he was a Nets fan. I am it roll valid questions, it's at home, I haven't ventured into the garden, thought about it, I live walking distance, I grew up walking distance, but everything I hear from you guys and also everyone else I know that I went to
Starting point is 00:22:40 high school with is that I'm not welcome quote unquote and so feeling it out just feeling it out for the time being seems like it's it's going well I heard going well you'll pop in game seven is that what you're thinking I mean I might I might look there's a future episode that I won't spoil in which I will attempt to return to the garden it just may require some things it may require some Sudeikis things, cord side seats, a trench coat underneath a larger, far more famous person, a helicopter, armed security. You're not confirm or deny. Um, I use an electric toothbrush. So do I. Oh, same. Same. No two, bro. Game changer. Laziness.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Anybody who is that. Laziness. You gotta use a manual toothbrush. An oral B? Yeah, plus it's like a workout. You know, my right arm's going like this. The hand crank. Greg, you go side to side or you do the little circles? Oh, I gotta be circular.
Starting point is 00:23:37 No, I do it all. You're a rookie if you're going side to side. I go side to side, I go tops and bottoms. Oh yeah. It's all little circles. The whole bit. Those are the forearms of a man with a manual toothbrush Greg the reason why I like the electric toothbrush is because it buzzes to let me know all right time to move on to another
Starting point is 00:23:52 30 seconds I find when I'm doing manual because sometimes you know I travel I lose a lot moves faster Well, I just don't know I have no idea. I've been brushing the same spot for like three minutes I'm like oh wait I should probably move because I get very distracted in my thought yeah as I'm staring at myself in the mirror spot like three minutes i'm like all we are should probably move because i i get very distracted in my body as i'm certain of myself in the mirror wondering what happened exactly the downside the the death of side of uh... standard so the man making a covenant with the younger version of yourself they used to be is that sometimes you strike a time
Starting point is 00:24:18 and so i'm all about the uh... really like this of course you know it's my larger take the best take that i have, which is, if you don't have a Japanese toilet, you're an absolute moron. And the electric toothbrush mechanization of all of it is a cousin to having something squirt water into your butt.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Hello. Speaking of being an absolute effing moron, as you put it, if you don't have one of the Phantom of the Greg Cody t-shirts on lebatardaf.com right now, you are a complete effing moron. Can we get some graphics to support this? I know I put you in the best by video team. You are my heroes.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Oh, look at that. But check him out, brother. This is my brother, Greg Cody, man. Wow. lebatardaf.com, man. Get you one or two man back to you Pablo I am stunned juju. Thank you for the thank you for the setup I am I'm stunned by how well Greg has healed is Greg wearing makeup today you guys covered this is this little bit of makeup
Starting point is 00:25:16 I mean Remarkable or remarkable recovery it is I'm serious like less than two weeks ago when I had my circle I am blood red and this and I thought it was gonna be two or three weeks. I even told my wife I'm not going out to a restaurant until this thing completely heals and I thought I was thinking weeks three Tylenol the bad guys There you go. Yeah, there you go. I mean it just a miracle Pablo You told us about what a future? publicer finds out It just so miracle Pablo you told us about what a future public right now But could you tell us about a current public hurry finds out well, I mean, I'm so glad you asked
Starting point is 00:25:52 So Nicola Jokic, I don't know if you guys heard this. He is about to get eliminated from the NBA postseason And every year you guys know I believe you guys are on the internet. You know what he does every year He goes home to Serbia and engages in his one true love the thing he loves and the only thing he loves animal husband which is Horse stuff the guy loves horse stuff, but he loves horse stuff in a very specific way as you watch this video He loves harness racing, which is a thing that Greg may be able to explain But I doubt anybody else can, because it's also deeply old. Yes. Greg?
Starting point is 00:26:29 It is. I actually won a harness race once. It was like a media type, bad celebrity type race at Pompano Park. Would you beat Hal Habib? I think I did, yeah. Dave Barry, I beat him as well. You were on the harness?
Starting point is 00:26:42 They claimed I was cheating, but I wasn't. How do you cheat at harness racing? I also won a miniature horse race. You make a great question. Actually a sprint. You were on the harness. They claimed I was cheating but I wasn't how do you cheat? I also want a miniature horse race. You make a great question. Sprint. Yeah, yeah They're only supposed to gallop too much whip if they run above a certain speed they get like eliminated Yeah, but Pablo I do know harness racing enough to know that it's a dying sport in the United States Like yes, I just googled it and it's like since States like yes I just googled it and it's like since 1967 wagering on harness racing is is down 78% and so I'm wondering does Jokic have an idea of that like does he know that hey you're doing something that's really weird in
Starting point is 00:27:16 this country yeah it's Greg Cody level weird for people who aren't watching on YouTube the Japanese network the photo I believe that was Greg it was that was an actual photo in the same deck shoes the same deck shoes. He's wearing today. He's wearing a bike helmet Yeah, they made you they made you wear a helmet He's basically sitting upright in a wheelchair wearing deck shoes being pulled by a miniature pony. That's a Shetland putney All of this seems ridiculous Look at that grin. I'm winning, I'm grinning and winning. Winning and grinning, as Clyde Frazier would say.
Starting point is 00:27:52 So Nikola Jokic, this is what this guy loves. People say he loves horses, he loves horse racing. No, he loves the weirdest version of this. And so what we did to Greg's point was do a study of like, okay, what is this sport? Is it actually good? What's interesting about it? And you learn that A, really hard to Google harness racing. It's not a sport that has an internet presence. Again, look at Greg. The second thing about it is that it did peak in like the twenties or maybe the forties
Starting point is 00:28:21 if we're being generous. And so what we did was convince the best harness racer in the world, who is a man that Nikola Jokic has quietly been visiting, befriending, at every road trip where there's a harness racing track, he meets this guy whose nickname is the Bionic Man. He meets the Bionic man and he hangs out with the horse people and so we asked the bionic man to give us the yogic treatment and he did. He brought us in, we got a horse, we went to a race, we competed in the race and that is the subject of today's episode. All right, Pablo Torre finds out. Check it out wherever you get your podcast. Pablo,
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Starting point is 00:30:14 Cody decides to give his opinions on things right when we're coming back. He started yammering about, don't you hate the phrase controlling your own destiny? Destiny can't be controlled right? oxymoron still gots I fully thought you were to go in with take the oxy out of it. That's what you are I Didn't say it. I'm saying that's oh I love you. You didn't say I love you back You're mad at me Put it on the pole gear mode does two gods throw it an I love you's only to get I love you's back?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Greg, I love you. I love you. Okay. Feel better now. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugatz. Would you guys be kind enough to give me whatever it is inaccurate breaking information on the shooting outside of where Drake lives please because we have some information trickling in and I don't have the availability to see how current and accurate it is and I don't
Starting point is 00:31:19 know how big a story this is about to become. I assume that many people are going to make links given what is happening with Drake in the news and I don't want to do anything reckless here that's not responsible. So what's the accurate information as we sit here right now? So details are still trickling in but the CBC is reporting that Drake's mansion is at the center of an investigation of a shooting. The person, there has been a person that has been injured, presently they're alive, but seriously injured by this apparent drive-by shooting at his home. And that's all we have at the moment and I suppose we can wait until more accurate
Starting point is 00:32:03 information is available to jump to any conclusions. The alleged shooting that was of the drive-by variety, all reportedly, happened at around 2 a.m. Eastern this morning. I will segue from that while waiting for more complete information into something that Greg Cody came in here today wanting to do. Greg Cody, can I? Do you find it comforting when Greg is breathing that loudly because I find it as like a not so subtle reminder that he's still here with us. Yeah, I'm happy he's breathing, but the man is that loud.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I don't know that I'm a loud breather. Okay, it's called exhaling. Yeah, it's a good sign though, Mike, he's alive. Everyone else here has the need to exhale and no one else here is doing it quite the way that you are. You have inflamed nostrils and it's just as a birth. He's got the largest nostrils of anyone here. I got giant nostrils. Naturally given how Drake has been in the news with his well-reported on very public beef with Kendrick Kendrick Lamar which also included I don't know if this is the same mansion but the mansion a Google map location being sent out as cover art there's a lot of internet conjecture right now considering the nature of this alleged shooting I'm trying to avoid the conjecture but I also want to put it out
Starting point is 00:33:19 there because I don't like we just let it sit there and the only thing that accompanied it was Greg Cody breathing into a microphone. You could have just waited. I could have but I wanted I'm genuinely curious about what the most up-to-date information is. You can put the conjecture on other folks that are clearly everyone's running wild on the internet right now but there is a security guard that has been very seriously injured. Now Greg Cody's afraid of the microphone. I'm afraid. I'm self-conscious about breathing. wild on the internet but there is a security guard that i've read a little easily enough now greg cody's afraid of the mike on the radio self-conscious about breathing into the field and a lot of people are afraid of the microphone right now given the
Starting point is 00:33:51 subject matter let's uh... let's catch up here with something that greg cody did today that he will very rarely does i don't feel like there have been many times in our history doing this that Greg Cody comes in here and says Flatly to me pulls me aside and says I have a content idea Yeah, and so when he came to me look at Lucy delighted by the idea I don't think you're gonna lose it. I think you're gonna like his idea less than anyone here I think that this that you're applauding this idea back here,
Starting point is 00:34:25 but I don't think you're going to like it. Greg Cody thought that as a content player, he gave me no other context for this, and he said we should shave off our eyebrows. Yeah, I don't like that. All of us? All of us. It has to be 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Why? It's just for fun. Oh. It's an experiment. Doesn't eyebrow grow back in? You know, I want to find that out. Yes, experiment over. I think it's dangerous at your age. Why? I just don't think the follicles fire off the same way at your age. Why are we all doing this?
Starting point is 00:34:55 It's a communal effort. It's like a team building thing. Mike Woodson did that? It is great. Please find for me if you you would, on the internet the photos of former Knicks coach Mike Woodson shaving off his eyebrows. And I do believe they've grown back for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. If you're older, are your eyebrows less likely to grow back once you've shaved them? Most eyebrows grow back. Excuse me, I'm getting tired here. Usually three months, sometimes six months, but somewhere within that range, that's how long they take to grow back. Wow, yeah, I'm looking here, it says a few months. I don't want to look like that for a few months. Bad idea. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a good looking
Starting point is 00:35:41 man. Oh man. Well, it used to be before he shaved his eyebrows i believe it's distracting the way that uh... my son but his mustache above his eyes and you got i brought or never shave your eyebrows that that's another that's another up uh... billy choosing the efficient route for once in his life character the best of the way to do it would be simply don't shave your eyebrows. But the second best solution is Greg's,
Starting point is 00:36:10 which is once you've shaven them, just take your mustache and slice it into pieces and then put it over your eyes. Or temporary tattoos. That might be easier than the mustache thing. I like Greg's idea better than temporary tattoos. It's quite the conundrum though, right? Cause you don't want to look the way you'd look
Starting point is 00:36:28 without eyebrows, but you also want the team building. Yeah. So what do you do? I feel like you could use mascara. No. Pencil in your eyebrows. No, that's not what mascara is for. What do you think mascara is?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Are you sure? It sounds like a pasta shell. I don't know what a mascarade is. It's not a pasta shell. Mascara with what a mascara is. It's not a pasta shell. Mascara with sauce. That's not what that is. Can I get a word? Mascara.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Mascara. Can I get a word with a mascara? Well, what do you think mascara is, Greg? Yeah, what is it? Isn't it like for eyebrows? Yeah, I think so. Like pencil-y eyebrows? No, what is mascara?
Starting point is 00:36:59 No, it is not. No, it is not. Women think they know everything about makeup, all right? What's mascara? Whoa! All right, Greg. Whoa! Say you're sorry about makeup. Oh boy. What's mascara? Whoa! All right, Greg. Whoa! Say you're sorry to me.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I didn't like the tone. Tell us what mascara is. No, say you're sorry first. Say sorry. I apologize, Greg. I gotta figure out what I said. I know what mascara is. Tone, tone.
Starting point is 00:37:15 For those that don't. All right, what's mascara? Hold on, by the way, Greg, the way you said tell us, they teach you in journalism, never start a question with tell us. That's fair. You got me on that. You got me on that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Lucy, don't answer his question. I'd like him to swim around for a moment on defining for us what he believes mascara to be. Okay, mascara, it comes in a big tube, you dip it, it's got a little brush there, and then I don't know exactly what you do, but I was on the- You paint your eyebrows on it.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You go like that on your eyebrows. Yeah, exactly. That's for eyelashes. I think that's right. That's why yeah it's for eyelashes. Ah me maximum. Yeah thank you. I think Lucy should apologize. What do you mean Lucy? What does Lucy need to apologize? Questioning Greg. Yes thank you. I believe are you not going to respect Lucy's request for an apology? Okay do you really think I need to apologize to you? Woman, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That's a compliment. Just calling me woman? Do you deny it? Nobody admits they're wrong worse than my dad. He is the worst, right? Let's explore this for a second. What's the last time you apologize? Next thing he's going to say, you may be right Lucy.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Do me a favor, call your mom right now, because I believe that she lives in the same place that I do, which is Greg will make a wrong argument, loudly, and for a long time, and it takes him forever to make the concession that he was wrong. He will almost never, in the the moment just say I'm sorry. Raise your hand if you'd like to watch a courtroom drama starring Greg Cody as a lawyer. Raise your hand if you wanna meet me
Starting point is 00:38:53 to clear his damn throat. Lucy, if I offended you in any way, I apologize. That's not how apologies work. Yeah, sure it is. If you're offended, I'm sorry. No ifs, Greg. No ifs. Me maximum. Right, sure it is. If you're offended, I'm sorry. No ifs. No ifs, Greg. No ifs. Me maximum.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Right. Me maximum apology. I know how to apologize like nobody else. That is true. You can't even look at it. Doesn't mean it's great, but like nobody else. It is like nobody else in that you apologize by not apologizing at all.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I just apologized to Lucy. I like Lucy. I'm not gonna insult her. Just now, I'm sorry okay I forgive you Is that hard? Seriously? I am forgiven!
Starting point is 00:39:33 Phantom of the Cody shirts available right now at LeBotardAF.com I have been negligent in not reminding people that Juju has produced some very cool Greg Cody shirts that you can get at LevitardAF.com if you're about the Tuesday experience here. Artistically done and somehow Greg Cody looks cool there. I would like to talk to Orlean for a second about how wrong Greg usually is and when the last time was that he just immediately apologized. Because don't think how long have you been married now? No, we've been married 40 years 39 years
Starting point is 00:40:12 Chris I want to do 83 83 years Chris feels like What's the average length of time between I'm kidding. Sort of. What's the average length of time between Greg being wrong and Greg finally saying I'm sorry? He never does. He does the thing that he did here where if I insulted you, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You maybe, it's just it's never like I screwed up, I'm sorry. Your mother's cut from the same cloth. Talk about a woman who never apologizes. Oh my God. I'm going to cut this part out of the podcast for you. Wow. The number of apologies I've gotten over the years. Well, how about you in 40 years,
Starting point is 00:40:47 how many times have you apologized to her? I mean, we rarely have a need to apologize. We have an amicable relationship, not to mention a loving one. Greg, you rarely, your wife would not agree with the assessment that you rarely have a reason to apologize, she's simply gotten used to and accepts, understands, and loves a husband who does not apologize. You are
Starting point is 00:41:09 out of your mind if you believe that you rarely do things that require an apology. There's no way Earlene is agreeing with that. Okay, well, you know, she may accuse me of things that are in contest. It how women are like great i didn't say that uh... i mean uh... we had a number of people last night who were not doing what they wanted to be doing chris cody wanted to be at a panthers game lucy wanted to be paying attention to the met gal and i think i mean did too i'm not sure that i mean i mean could have done without the first couple of quarters of that paces game so that he could laugh at the Met Gala folks.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I've never watched the Met Gala in my life, but I've always seen the aftermath. And so experiencing it secondhand through Lucy is pretty much my experience all the time. It's just instead of Twitter, I had an actual real life human pointing out things. I also had my computer up there, so I don't know if you could see behind here. I was not looking. Lucy, winners and losers from last night, fashion-wise. Man, I gotta say, there were a lot of losers, and that's tough for me.
Starting point is 00:42:13 The theme was so, it was so broad. Garden of Time to represent the Sleeping Beauty exhibit. There was so much we could have worked with, and no one did, no one did. Lizzo, I don't know what she was wearing, terrible. That was the worst. That's the one that bothered you last night. And I believe you put,
Starting point is 00:42:30 and this I didn't know what to do with, you put us in the position of putting you in the position who was the only woman on air with us last night of being fashion correspondent, but nobody asked you to do that. You chose to do that and didn't really wanna be doing the basketball with us. You should apologize for that, Lucy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yep. There's too much woman talk for this. Just call me Lucy. We don't have to just refer to me as the woman. Regardless, who were the biggest losers, the biggest? Was it Lizzo? Cause you were complaining about her last night. Ben Simmons showed up.
Starting point is 00:43:04 How is he getting invites? I mean, what has he done? Ben Simmons? Yeah. He's a bit of a fashion icon the same way that Kyle Kuzma is. No one thinks fashion icon with Ben Simmons, Dan. Nobody. He's like the Pink Panther. He just steals a lot of money. Stugantz, I don't believe that you and I are qualified to decide for others who is fashionable or not But the same way Kyle Kuzma is proud of the stuff He wears Ben Simmons clearly put effort into what it is that he's wearing here, right?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Fresh as hell too. Yeah, Lucy explained it to us last night He was actually on brand like on brand with whatever the theme was He did great and for the biggest losers, it seems like it was me. From all of this. I'm sorry Lucy. That's how it's done. A sarcastic a lot. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:44:00 How is it better than it was better when you were just breathing too loud?

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