The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Happiest Little Clam In The Sea (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

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Thank you for having me on your show. I appreciate it. That's not my show. Don't do that. That is not my show. I love it. The L.S. What's the matter with you?

ZLS. I like that. Jessica Smetana joining us now. Hello, Jess. How are you this morning? Hey, Zaz. You should know Smeddy that Chris Codic just broke into a round of applause all by himself.

Oh, that's so sweet. I'm sorry. I didn't know who's going to do that. Welcome, Jess. I thought you were going to point out that I corrected David's grammar in the last segment because that was very nervous. I loved that. I really enjoyed that he called clearly a verb and the adjective and Chris Cody was there to save the day. I didn't love so much when you guys were making fun of blind people, but we'll move on. Yeah, you guys took it like I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone.

I was making a point. You said if they were playing against a blind you and then that visual was created. Nobody was making fun of anybody. No, I said it as if you would play like school. for the blind, and that's not the case. They're playing a really good school. We were just pointing out the difficulties if that were the case. Did we make it any better, Jess? No. But that's okay. We'll move on. Okay, so we haven't brought this up yet in the show today, because I feel like we may need your help here, and I certainly

don't know anything about this. There's been a lot of talk over the last couple days about New Heights podcast. Taylor Swift. And this is, Jess, I don't know if you'll wear this, not my expertise. Did you watch or listen to yesterday Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast? I really didn't know what. I thought this could go any direction. I thought we were going to talk about sex toys again. I thought this could be about the three ejections last night in the Sun Sky game. All of those things, well, maybe I shouldn't say I'm more of an expert on. But I'm not a Taylor Swift expert either. However, last night, there was this big delay in the basketball game I was watching Zaz, and the play-by-play announcer for the Connecticut

son, I think it's Brandon Glesheen, was saying, I hope you don't tune out during this 15-minute long review of this call and turn on the Taylor Swift interview. Please stay with us. And I was like, actually, that's a good idea. It's a terrible job I am. It was the longest review of any play. this is coming from a league where the officiating tends to be more frustrating than any other league. But anyways, so I was like, you know what? That's a good idea. I'm going to turn on this Taylor Swift thing and see what the buzz is about because I had heard about it. I didn't really know what was going on. And I said this on Mystery Crate this week, you'll hear it tomorrow, but this Travis Kelsey PR push, it has worked on me, okay? I haven't thought about Travis Kelsey

since January. And all of a sudden, I'm like, what's he up to? So I turned it on. And it was very cute. It was very cute. It's not, like, I'm not a, I'm not a new, I've never listened to New Heights before, but I was listening to the three of them and I was like, Jason Kelsey is like, he's doing his best Barbara Walters right now. Like, this is a great interview. Oh, is that what it was? It was like in the form of Jason interviewing the two of them? Basically, yes. And they were very cute together. And it was very adorable. And then she debuted her new album, which is called Life of a Showgirl. And they They were very nice and talked about, you know, he was sort of complimenting her on how hard her job is. And she was talking about how hard his job is.

And it was just, I don't know. Something about it kind of tickled me. And I was like, you know what? I can kind of see the appeal here. And then after like 10 minutes, I turned it off and watch the basketball again. But there are 1.3 million live viewers when I turned this thing on. It was absurd. It's a hard off.

Yeah. Heart off, really, because they love each other so much. Like, Jess, don't you think someone comes down? If this review was taking so long at the WMBA game, somebody comes down from wherever their review centers, guys, the Taylor Swift podcast, like it just dropped you idiots. Can we hurry this thing up? I think that's the problem. I don't think they have a central review center. I think they need one. I think that that is an issue. I think that if I were negotiating the new CBA, I'd be like, hey, we're not playing until you guys fix the officiating because this is bananas. Every night there's someone, now look, NBA officiating, we could say whatever we want as well. Like, they complain too. fans we complain too. In NFL. NFL. NFL officiating we complain about constantly. Every sport, every sport. But it really does seem like in the WMBA, every single night there's complaining

about the fish hitting. Yes, correct. The fever wings game the night before, there were tons of complaints about Paige getting a special whistle and then, you know, the fever head coach Stephanie White said after the game that the fever weren't getting a good whistle. And it's just like on and on and on. I don't really, there has been research done on this. There was a really long story in the athletic by Chantelle Jennings earlier this year during the Final Four about the NCAA officiating because that has also been a huge issue. And as that sport gets more popular, people have more and more complaints about just the inconsistency that one game you can get away with this and then the next game you can't

and you have to change from game to game based on who the officials are, how aggressively and physically you can play. But this doesn't seem like a problem that can be fixed overnight. it seems like there's just like this long pipeline issue. So it's really just not going to get better anytime soon. Isn't part of the fix that the commissioner, Kathy Engelbert, like, can't she eventually send out a note to these teams where it's like, hey, no one wants to hear complaining about the officials every single night. We need to tone down on this rhetoric. I think they get fined if they cross a line like any other league. So I think that it's already frowned upon.

But there's been, I guess, like, conversations about if you do complain about it, do you get. a better whistle in your next game. And so that's a tactic that coaches have maybe tried to take. But I don't know. Zaz, it's just a mess and you kind of just expect it now. And so last night during this 15-minute-long review where ultimately two sky players and one son player got ejected for, I would say, a frockis. It wasn't really much.

I did just decide, you know what? I'm going to. I say fracas. You said fracas? I thought it was. I've always heard fracas. It's a fracas. Freikis.

Okay. You don't... Wow, you gave in so fast. I was with you. Depical. Jess, the old adage is if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one.

Now, we found out officially the Sunday night week one game at Hard Rock Stadium between Notre Dame and Miami will be a top 10 matchup. Both teams in the top 10. And right now, from what I'm reading,

Notre Dame has a legitimate quarterback battle. Everyone thought that CJ Carr was going to be QB1. It seems like he's getting pushed by Kenny Minchie. Are you worried about this? Or do you think that, hey, we have two good quarterbacks?

Echoes, echoes. I don't know why there was so much certainty going into preseason camp that it would be CJ Carr. I think that like the vibe was that it's, you know, maybe he's the favorite just because I think there's an expectation that his ceiling is higher. But he is a younger player than Kenny Minchie. And Kenny Minchie does have more of a. like mobile aspect to his game that C.J. Card doesn't have. And so with offensive coordinator being Mike Denbrock, who's, you know, was the offensive coordinator of Jane Daniels and a number of other mobile quarterbacks, Riley Leonard

last season, that might be something that helps a player who has, you know, neither of them have started in a college football game before. So I don't, like, it seemed like it was already a quarterback battle to me. And maybe just the national media perspective was that it was more one-sided and that it was just kind of a formality to do it this way, but I wouldn't say I'm worried. I would say like you kind of just have to trust that the coaches make the right call because Notre Dame is going to run the ball a lot. They have a really good tight end that they have a lot of faith in going into this game, Eli Reardon. They have Jeremiah Love and Judarian Price returning in the backfield.

The offensive line should be really good. So I wouldn't say that it's like I'm panicking by any means, but it certainly is, it's interesting because, like, this is, you know, the first season, Notre Dame's had a quarterback battle in a long time. The last couple seasons, they've taken these, like, long time starters out of the portal. And so this is just, and again, like, this is something that, like, it's going to be like this for a lot of college football teams this year. The COVID players are all gone. There's going to be a huge variation in quarterbacks in, in college football. Players don't have COVID years anymore? You're not going to get a Dylan Gabriel coming in on a really good Oregon team and just swooping in and running the

playbook. Like there's not a five, five and six year players anymore, Zaz. There's going to be a lot of quarterbacks debuting this season. And more likely than not, you know, quarterbacks that you're going to watch in the playoffs, a lot of them are going to be first year players, I think. Jess, what's your plan for Miami Notre Dame? I don't have a plan. I'm just going to watch the game. Like you're not coming down? Oh, no. Well, I mean, you said that like you hate mine. It doesn't really like it here. I don't know if you know this. I mean, I was just there. Like, I don't need to come back already. All right. Notre Dame.

Sounds scared. Sounds scared to me. I was at Hard Rock, like, I don't know. How many months ago? Is that, like, four months ago for a game? I don't need to go back to Hard Rock. No, sound scared specifically to relive 2017, the greatest night of our lives. That's sad. I'm sorry. That was the greatest night of your life. Jess, a loss that night hurts more for which team? I don't think it hurts either team that much, to be honest.

I think that Miami still can win the ACC, even if they lose to Notre Dame, and then they're in the playoff. Even if they lose maybe one other game, they can still make it to the ACC championship game, depending on who that is to, obviously. Notre Dame, I think, if they lose to Miami, there's more pressure to beat Texas A&M in week three. But I don't think it necessarily eliminates either team from the playoff. I think that if you are someone who said that the 12-team playoff devalues the regular season, there's a little bit of truth to that. Of course. There's not 12 play-in games like in the 2014 season to the playoff where an 11-1 team may not make the playoff.

And it's going to be really tight. So the counterpoint to that is we should get more great week-one games like this. We should get more non-conference week-one games. This game's obviously a little different because Notre Dame has the ACC scheduling agreement. But like Ohio, Texas, or Ohio State, Texas, we should get games like that every year. LSU Clemson, we should get games like that every year because I don't think it really hurts that much if you can then go on and win the rest of your games that season, especially in your conference. Look, every football game is a grind. And if you're like Dan and the crew, you know there's no such thing as one size fits all.

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wants to hear it. Right, well, he has to. Weir, whiwitwitwitwai. I feel like that's safe. He might be litigious, but that was such a poor imitation of the song. Stugats. We can all agree, piano man.

The crowd needs to sing piano man. Yeah, but I want to hear Billy Joel sing the piano man. They just let you at the end go. She just wants suey nominations. She just wants a rack-up suey nomination. Is that what she's going on? I'm trying to avoid that.

Fake crocodile rock. Fake Billy Joel's piano. You got it. It's all right. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Jess, I wanted to bring up a topic while you were on here because Michael Porter Jr.'s been doing, I don't know if it's. What are you said? Vlogs or I don't know if it's like.

like a podcast, and we don't know a name. Willie Collie Stein. But he's doing a... Steiny. He's facing the camera and talking. Let's just put it that way. And he's come up with like a bunch of conversation starters. Like he talked about his situation with his brother and the gambling, Jonte Porter.

He talked about a couple of other things. I wanted to play a clip and discuss any of those things, but specifically for me, one topic that Michael Porter Jr. gets into and tries to sound very profound. Everybody has different vices. Everybody has different things that they struggle with. with, that can go from people that struggle with alcohol, people that struggle with drugs. You know, my brother, for example, struggle with gambling. My vice has always come in a form of women.

My brother, Jonté, he never seemed to struggle with that vice. You know, I never struggled with the gambling addiction. Low risk. Damn. Low risk. One of the topics that come up is how you speak about your siblings in public because that was a shot at his brother. He's like, hey, he doesn't get any ladies. But also, Jess, correct me if I'm wrong here.

Did he just not make monogamy sound like the most difficult thing in the world? Now, before anybody gets on, there's some people that are sick addicts. I understand that. I don't believe that that's what he was describing there. But monogamy, is it the greatest vice or is it just MPJs? Well, I wanted to ask you that, is he like, do you think monogamy is difficult? Because I feel like it's way more difficult to be in multiple relationships. relationships than just one balance I only know one way and I've done the monogamous thing in both of my relationships and I think it's pretty pretty easy for me but like your partner it's not that hard precisely this actually I actually had an interview to one of my heterosexual teammates at the the flag football league that I play in and he basically said the same thing like I don't is this like a straight people thing like he said effectively you know my problem is being loyal to my wife kind of like what your problem is is wanting to

sleep with men. I was like, what? Like, that is not, like, monogamy and being gay. Come on now. Yeah, I mean, I feel like, you know, I've been watching a lot of madmen recently. So my opinions on monogamous gotten firmer as I've just, I've watched Don Draper have sex with so many women outside of his marriage. So nowhere am I judging people who are not monogamous, who have open relationships, anything like that. I'm just not putting on the same. level being gay and not being able to be loyal to your wife. Two different things. Like, do they think that all gay people either like all have open relationships and

we don't have to fight that or we're like super willpower? No, it's just an orgy. That's what they're expecting. Jess and your Mad Men rewatch, are you still surprised at the PTO policy for Dom Draper? This is crazy. He just goes away months on end and everyone's cool with it. Yeah. I mean, he just goes to L.A. for a month and then comes back and they're like,

cool, you came back because they kind of didn't think he would. All of it's crazy. I mean, the amount of chain smoking and like midday whiskey drinking or rye drinking. How are they not always drunk? That's the thing. They are.

John Slattery is always drunk. Always drunk. It makes so much more sense when you rewatch it as an adult. You're like, oh, he's making these terrible choices because he has like a horrible alcohol problem. Zaz mentioned last week about watching Boardwalk Empire. That show always made me, like anytime I have a conversation with someone. I just want to pour a little glass of scotch.

I'm pretty sure when I watched that show, I asked from my mother-in-law for a decanter for Christmas. Just because I wanted to have a thing with some whiskey in it. So if I ever need to make a big life decision or have a big conversation with someone, I'll go pour a couple glasses. Yeah, I love the idea that just any time someone walks into your home or into your office, it's automatically expected. You have to pour them a drink.

I want to live that life. Oh, I just want to have you. Let's talk about this. Yeah. I think the lebitard show studio office dynamic is already weird enough without everyone drinking Scotch at 2 p.m. Yeah, we only take shots Friday afternoons. Can I throw one thing out there?

I was listening earlier to your Kyrieh Eliasson. I was like, what? So I don't know that song, but I was like, I know that phrase, and I think it's from church. And then I remembered it's from Monty Python in the Holy Grail. that is, it means that Lord have mercy and it's part of like a chant that Christians say. And reggae artist as well. Yeah. And it just reminded me of Monty Python this morning.

There's a Venn diagram of Greek orthodoxy and reggae artist that both say handshake, Lord of mercy in the middle. That actually revived me of my latest internet trend that I am a huge fan of. You guys see in these videos and maybe it's just one or two guys, but it's Jamaican men narrating. cooking posts, and it is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Trust me, when you say it out loud, you're just like, why is that so funny? Just go watch them. There's one in particular where somebody was just doing so much homemade stuff while they were making chicken wings, and the line that I laughed so hard, I nearly jumped off

the toilet, I don't know if that happens for anybody else, when he's like, well, you know, make what tattoo? And I was just like, oh my God, it's just like, when you say things, hilarious, in a special accent. Like, it's otherworldly, and it's hilarious, and I encourage everybody to go listen. A lot of mercy. Well, you know, make what a tattoo? Jess, are you watching Mad Men again because you don't have anything else to watch on TV these days?

Like, are you out of things to watch? I need a show between the hours of, like, 5 p.m. and 7 most evenings. Like, I just need something before the sports start. And there was, like, a couple weeks in there in, like, August where, like, not a lot of sports on. I watch baseball sometimes, but Monday nights there's no basketball games. I'm like, I just need something. What is it like having that window open? Yeah.

Because that's a big kid time. Yeah, that's a huge kid window. So much kids. I am that window. Busiest time. This is exactly why I'm very happy right now in my life because I have those two hours. Because you have no kids. Well, I wasn't going to go that far, but I have those two hours because I don't have kids.

And then there's also like the hour when you're like getting ready for bed, but you're not falling asleep yet, that's a special time. I love that 45 minutes to an hour where it's just laying in my bed scrolling on my phone. Maybe I put on a Madman episode. I don't know, Zaz. To be honest, I just turned it on and I was like, wow, the show is so freaking good. And so now I'm like balls deep in season five. It's so good. I remember that I've only gone through it once, but I remember the first time that I saw Mad Men. It's a phenomenal show, obviously, but it was jarring to me, and one of the

most fascinating things about it to me, the way that they treat women. Like, I can't believe that that was a real time where this was the way they were treating. Oh, it was. No, it was quite, 1940s. We're going back.

Everything has been fixed, and now at work, women are treated very, very equally. I'm not going to say any names. But I've worked with a lot of gentlemen, who are older, who when I see their interaction with women, it's jarring. They treat them like maids. They're so dismissive. And these are men like people that I like. And it's just like, wow, the time that you grew up, like what was okay is wild. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore,

especially the men that treat you like you're a little kid because you're a girl to them. I have never experienced that at work. That's what the money's for. Israel, how much money do I have to give you right now to name a name? I'll double it. $300 million. Take it back. You'll double it, Stu. Nice.

Well, Zaz doesn't have $300, so I'm good. We can't let Florida get this edge on Miami. We can't have Izzy with $300. Jess, if you were able to afford it, would you donate $300 million to Notre Dame? Oh, that's a good question. I mean, I think that it would depend on what the money goes towards. Like, do I need a practice facility in my name? probably not but if I could donate it towards like scholarships or something like

research that would be good I feel like if you're throwing in if you're able to afford it kind of yeah if I'm able to afford it I'll do it oh the truth be told I'm not able to afford what I give presently so is that group of folks just tell everybody how they can catch your podcast yeah we're on Apple Spotify we're weekly on YouTube I'm also on a Vice show that a new episode came out last night on Vice. It's called Sports Gone Wrong. I think I'll be on Katie Nolan's show this week or next week. I don't know if I'm supposed to spoil that or not, but I'm excited to talk to her. But yeah, Zaz, life is good. I've been just hanging, fishing, enjoying my walks, watching Mad Men. I'm the happiest little clam in the sea.

Are you starting to bail on Caleb Williams? I was never really. that bought in on him to begin with. But I think my opinion of him is the same. I think he could work well if he had a coach and a offense that worked with him and what he's good at. And it remains to be seen if the Bears can pull that off. How do you feel about hated rivals coming over to your franchise? Because I know it was always being a Browns fan, I always disassociated. But there was like a big, it was a big deal when Braylon Edwards became a Cleveland Brown because so many, there's so much shared fandom between Buckeyes and Browns fans. Do you, are you a little harder on Caleb Williams because he's an S.C. guy or you really don't

give a shit? Well, I think there's a lot of confused Bears fans who are like, yeah, that guy's so overrated. And in 2023, we're like, he's the most, you know, Chicago, the Chicago Notre Dame fans, I should say, like, he's the most overrated quarterback in college football. This guy stinks. And then, like, the Bears continue to lose all season. And they were like, shoot, now what do we do? So I do think that that does put people's brains in a little bit of a pickle mic but i mean like the steelers drafted will howard and jack sawyer and yeah i don't love ohio state and they beat no in the national championship game but now i don't really care that much if they do well on the steelers because i want the steelers to win i care more about aaron rogers being on the steelers

because he is super annoying he's got a whole new helmet now and he is already making a big deal about it never ends it never ends with him just shut up Shut up. Good job, Jess. Good seeing you. Thanks. We'll talk to you later. See you guys next week.

I'll be facetiming you in a couple of weeks. That's okay. You don't have to. Not if you're down 14, nothing. You can text me. I'll give you my old number. Bye. Don Lebertard.

I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. I would die I don't know where it is This is the Dan Levitar show With the Stugats Mike, where do you watch the game from

Like where you're not in like a suite or anything Right 50 yard buddy, he's in a suite He's high atop Is he really? He's got those seats with the names on it He's got TVs in his seats He watches other games in his seats I got the leather couch seats

Okay hold on you're in like Club 72 you're saying Yeah Ooh, I've never been in that. It's nice. You're asking him to go right now, aren't you? You're on the short list for the Gator game. I know you went to Santa Fe. You know what?

See, now you're saying things that are going to insult me, and I don't feel like that's a direction I want to go in right now. That week you went to Santa Fe. Maybe. Maybe that week I did. Maybe for that week I did. You know, I'm going to be here for it because I travel every weekend for college football tailgate, free SPN.

these two got. So I'm literally away every single weekend. It's great. Me and Amber Wilson, we do the show up from the biggest games every single week. So you'll be here for that game because that's the game they chose that week? Wow. Yeah, I'm really excited. Big game. I actually had to specify. That's a big game. I had to specify. I have a nameplate on the box seats that I have. And it was actually directly next to part of the other Rui's family that is associated with Miami. So I had to change that up and make sure to specify. No, it's just, you know, I don't want to, I want people to think I'm John.

He doesn't like being Hispanic. Whoa. No, that's not it. Like, you don't want to arrive in someone in their party sitting in your seat. Right. Well, I also contribute a lot

every year. Oh, I understand. You know, where some other people just like to get that shine. Oh. Do you want to name any names? No, I think I did. He did.

He literally just did. I already kind of did. So I specify, Mike Ryan, Cynthia, Juliet. So you have three seats? I did the, no, I have four. You have four? Yeah, four leather.

John Zoslow could be one of them. Wow. I don't know if you heard. I'm going to be in town for that game. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We already, the competition does occasionally get fierce amongst the friends, but we've already settled on. I'm not going to bring it up again. We've already settled on the Notre Dame. You're on a short list. I mean, what else can you ask for? Yeah. And if I could just add one more thing, it's the only weekend I'm in town. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. All right. You're on the short list. If you indeed went to Santa Fe, then that is going to be a big one.

I might have went to Santa Fe that week. Poor Ethan. Me? Oh, that's right. Oh, Ethan. It'll be a hard week for Ethan. You and Ethan fight to the death, Zaz. Is Ethan on the short list? Short list?

No way. Is he on any list? So Zaz is a lot like Udana's Haslam in that they're both champions for the mighty heat. That's one of many things you D and I have in common. They both went to Gainesville as a business decision, but they rep the Cades. That's right. That's hardcore. You can't tell me I'm not a great Cain's fan.

I'm as good at Cain's fan as there is. How far down the list am I? Because I'm sitting right here and I haven't heard my name as a former Florida a Gator. Pretty far down the list. I've got to be honest with you, because you don't like the canes. Hang with him. That's a prerequisite. You've got to love the cane. Yeah, he doesn't want someone's the next one who's going to cheer for the other team. That's not something that you do.

Is it because I said you don't want to be Hispanic? Yeah, that didn't help matters. It didn't move you up. Yeah, and in my defense, I had to explain to you what a Dominican egg was. Hmm. Fair. That UMUF game's going to be fun, man. Ooh, I'm looking for him.

Well, I'm wondering who's that quarterback for Florida because Oh, you're down on Lagway, right? I like DJ Lagway when he's. on the field and healthy. He's never on the field and healthy. It's becoming a thing. He went an entire off season without throwing and it was one of those dicey situations. He had that shoulder injury

during the regular season. When they opened up over the summer, they had him throw for the first time and it was one of those things from, I happen to know. We don't know if this guy... You happen to know? I happen to know. They're being quiet about it and finally Billy Napier's

giving voice to it but go ahead. I happen to know this part. He happens to know Great Scott, he happens to know He happens to know Gather everyone Get the children He happens to know So wise

So the first time he threw Over the off season Everybody at Florida was waiting With baited breath Because we don't know if he actually can play this season He may need to get the surgery Now it appears like he's toughing it out Because he threw and he didn't get the surgery

He's dealing with this other calf strain injury Which in the NBA is like Oh we got to watch out for the calf strain because that could lead to an Achilles. He has this existing shoulder injury. If he can't fully plant, that's only going to put more stress on that shoulder injury. He's limited to 70 passes of practice. This is according to my sauces.

And that's not a lot. You go in the backyard. That's about five minutes worth of tossing the pig skin. That's not a lot. I'll make 70 throws like it's nothing. Yeah, but your shoulder is sore the next day it is. I mean, come on, let's be honest. 70 throws right now?

I don't think I can make 70 throws right now. I don't think I could make 70 throws right now. Billy Napier admitted for the first time, yeah, DJ's on a modified schedule right now. The report is he's only doing 7B7 drills. He hasn't really thrown a pass 11 on 11. And I'd be really worried if I were a Florida Gator fan. And I'd also be Googling the depth chart and familiarize myself with some of the names behind him because this can be a thing for DJ Lagway until he shows that he can stay healthy

for a consistent amount of time. Well, that's what I was wondering. Do we have imaging for the opposite of, I happen to know, because Ethan and I have been doing research for the past three days. We have no idea who the backup is. You don't happen to know? I happen to not know. I mean, I would love to know the person's name.

The next time I hear it will be the first time I've heard the quarterback of the Florida Gators, probably in the opening game. You feeling good about Carson Beck? I am. I'm going to practice tonight, though, so we'll see. But, yeah, he's... That way, the next few weeks can be, like, out of practice. He had an arm injury, right?

You want to see... He lives because of that arm. That's his occupation. That is his tool. And he was throwing before DJ Lagway was throwing, and he's looking real good. Usually you want to keep these things. I know when Cam Ward showed up to Miami, he's like, we kind of need to be quiet about how good this guy is because we don't want it to be out there. It's harder to keep the secret because everyone's wondering, hey, do these passes still have zip?

Does it look like he just had shoulder surgery? He looks like the same guy. It's going to look very different for Miami. He's not going to be his improv as Cam Ward, which sometimes Cam Ward was so brilliant, but he also does. dug himself in a hole and he was brilliant enough to dig himself out of it. Carson Beck knows exactly where he's going with the football. He makes his progressions really quick, very decisive, and we'll see which wide receivers can meet him on that level,

but he is really good. Mike, I think you'd like to know that we had the bear on God bless football. It's out right now, and I asked for a Heisman Trophy flyer, and he said Carson Beck. He thinks Carson Beck is going to have a monster season. Now he loves the U, so perhaps he's by. but that was his choice. Bear shoots it straight. Didn't he go to you him? He did. Yeah. He shoots it straight though when it comes to Miami. But I think Carson Beck, because he had to follow Stetson

Bennett, and because his wide receivers to a very large degree, in terms of drops, just the flat number and also dropped yardage, Georgia was the worst in the nation out of a major program. He got let down a lot by those wide receivers, but it led to a perception that Carson Beck isn't that good. And look, the Cavender thing kind of added to a circusy element there. They're still on the outs? They're still on the outs. But I got to tell you, Carson Beck

has been a total pro. He went to Media Day, knocked that assignment out of the park. He's a better leader than what was led on to believe. And a lot of people thought he was a bad leader at Georgia because when Gunner came in, everyone's like, ah, this is the team's guy. Different

leadership style, but a more mature guy. Well, part of that, I mean, it did, look, I'm on the outside looking in, but part of that when Gunner took over, it did seem like the team liked him better. Yes, it did. But this is a different setup down here in Miami. They got used to Cam Ward's type of leadership style, which was

accountability, but Carson Beck is better than advertised in terms of leadership. He's out there, he's talking to the guys, he's developed his handshakes. He seems like to be, like he's getting along well. That's important. It is. It is. Building up a camaraderie with your wide receivers, especially

when you have some questions about the wide receiver's line. Like when you say develop the handshakes, it's like LeBron where he's got a different one for all his teammates? How do you remember? That's one of the things that you look for in practice, Zaz. If a wide receiver has a special unique handshake with the quarterback, you go to your notes app. You write that one down.

You know what I find very difficult in assessing quarterbacks is differentiating between somebody who makes quick decisions and somebody who predetermines their throws. Because obviously, unless you're inside. of the brain of the quarterback. You don't know if they said, oh, I'm definitely going to go here on this pass. But the guys who make those quick decisions all the time,

whether it be Tua or whether it be Carson Beck, as Mike is telling us, sometimes I wonder, is that just a predetermined throw that was successful? In college, maybe you get away with it better because your talent somehow is maybe a little bit higher than the opponents that you're playing. But that's the most difficult thing for me.

When somebody says this guy makes quick decisions, I wonder if half of those throws were just not predetermined. The ball comes out at an NFL type of rate. I understand that, but I think it's amplified because of Cameron Ward's ability in the pocket. And Miami still has a very good offensive line. They are very deep there. David Lake for 247 Sports wrote a great article in that we can have our questions about the wide receiver room all you want. You can win a national title with what is viewed as a non-elite wide receiver room.

But to win a national title, you need to be really good at corner. You need to be really good in the trenches. D-line, O-line. and at quarterback, Miami's checked all those boxes. Carson Beck is, according to Draft King, Sportsbook, Carson Beck is tied for sixth as far as odds go, shortest odds, to win the Heisman. What are the odds?

Do you want to guess what Beck is? If he's tied for six, do you want to guess what it is? When you get those standalone TV windows, we saw this with Cam Ward when he got the SEC 330 window week one, if you perform well at that position. Right. We're in that helmet. At that school.

Again, say, marquee opponent. Right. That is a huge platform to set yourself apart early in the Heisman conversation. We saw it with Cameron Ward last year. Carson Beck has that opportunity Sunday before Labor Day. You're seeing it with Arch right now at Texas. It's because he's playing quarterback at Texas. So, of course, he has a chance to win the Heisman if he's great.

We come out the gates with Arch versus the national champion Ohio State Buckeyes in the big noon window. It's unbelievable to me. As big as it gets. Arch Manning has the shortest odds. I still want you to guess Carson Beck's who got it. But Archmanagest, I guess the shortest odds to win. He's the favorite to win the Heisman. He has no collegiate resume.

Has this ever happened in the history of college sports? He didn't come in for a couple of games. Oh, get out of here. It's against U.O. Monroe and U.T. San Antonio and Mississippi State. No, but I think that's what me and Mike are talking about. There was a time where if you just played quarterback for Florida State, you were in the Heisman conversation. But without any resume with no experience.

Yes. I mean, whoever the next Florida State quarterback was was going to be in that conversation before the season started. Yeah, Florida also had that. Yeah, Florida had that reputation. Maybe not favorite. What's funny, what's funny, especially when you consider the narrative that was around Mario Cristobal, and I think to the uninformed, still there, this guy's a quarterback killer. If Carson Beck gets drafted next year, there was a time last year where he was thought that he was going to be the number one overall pick, Carsonback.

He was the odds on favorite. He was the odds on favorite last year entering the league, entering the college football season to be the number one pick. And then he had what is considered to be a season not up to. their standards, and then he got hurt, and he came back. He was going to enter the NFL draft, decided against it to come to Miami, much like Cam Ward there. But if he does progress to be a high-round draft pick and start next year, that means Mario Cristobal has 10% of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Not bad for a guy that was reputed to be a quarterback killer. How much...

I want to win soon. How much do you think it played a role in Carson Beck coming to Miami? if a year ago he was Heisman favorite possible number one overall pick in the draft when the time comes and it all falls apart from last year but you see what happened with Cam Ward and Cam Ward has the season that he had and he goes number one overall in the draft like did that play any role of Carson Beck choosing come in choosing to withdraw from the draft and go to Miami. You have proof of concept everyone saw that. Miami put out the number one overall draft pick at that position. That's been hard for Miami to do recently but it's also Shane and Dawson and that

second time ever the Canes have done that? At quarterback I think yeah Vinny Vinny yeah Vinny was the only other guy that's a long time but also Miami had questions about Carson Beck they did their due diligence they spoke to coaches that brilliant offensive

minds that had the privilege of working with Carson prior to and that really convinced Miami because I think there was this whole attitude towards Carson Beck is this guy that good what kind of teammate is he because that that SEC narrative was out there. Where his teammates at his birthday party?

That's, as we know. That is a huge, huge piece of the puzzle when it comes to draft evaluation. Sugats, what do you think his odds are? Tied for six, the shortest odds. I'm going to say, plus 8,800. Jesus, a terrible guess. Wow.

Anyone else want to make a guess? What is it? That's like that plus 2,000, well, plus 2,000 territory? Yeah. What is it? Plus 1,800. What? Haynes King is plus 9,000.

So you were just right there. Does anybody play that game better than Stigatz? No one. Haines King is a dog. I used to ruin that game all the time purposely for Dad. Now I have mastered it. Terrible. Yeah, you ruin it for me too.

Zaz, if he would have gotten it right on the money, if he would have nailed it plus $1,800. But if you've jumped off your toilet? I mean, if it was, if you nail something that's plus $8,800, yeah, like that would shock me, all right? How do you jump off a toilet? I'm going to give you one time, all right? So, look, you're just sitting there, and sometimes I don't have the squatty-potty situation, so you've got to have maybe a little lean forward sometimes. And if I see something that is ridiculously hilarious, occasionally, I might just go, and then, you know, you're trying to sit back down.

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