The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Highest Rated World Series Ever

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

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Sorry Lucy, I'm doing your job. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. So this is the Dan LeBatard Show. Lucy's on vacation right now. It's your boy here, Cliff or Taylor, you know what I'm saying? I would say golf balls, but nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, spot to tailgate and guess what we're going on a boat today. Watch this go. Run from Seems to come and go That's the best rivalry in college football.

Okay, that's not accurate, but it is a good rivalry. Bambo by 10, and you know it. They should have lost to South Carolina. And now they're down here by the river, they're going to get their ass whipped. You got the elephant from Amazon. Yeah. And then the band-aids you had to make on your own. Yeah, you're not going to

find those at Walmart. How long do you say it took for you to beat up this elephant? We've been beating it up ever since last year. So. Are you like holding up well mentally? Oh yeah. It's not life or death for me, you know, but it's fun. Not a real one. It should be life or death. It's college football. You should have started crying and sobbing and saying, I don't know what life without Nick Saban is wrong. We don't even know about the whole city of Alabama because we're from Tennessee. You're in the greatest college sports city in all of America.

You're on G10T, third Saturday in October. How could the vibes be bad, you know? It was really poetic, OK. Do you think Alabama is overrated? Yes. Yes, of course They got their ass whooped by Vanderbilt. Absolutely. I mean have you seen them play? They ain't got nothing good about them. They're never overrated. It's that they're always strong bringing a presence I've noticed that Tennessee fans are very afraid of talking about Alabama

You don't want to curse anybody talking about Alabama. Yes. You don't want to curse anybody. Yes. What was your immediate response when you found out that Nick Saban retired? Pure elation. Oh, absolutely, flabbergasted.

I just dropped everything in my hands. Slow-mo movie scene, just no. Like a little bit of relief, but also a little bit of dread. I'm like, OK, what's coming next? Overabundance joy. I mean, he's the GOAT. I mean, he really is, but my immediate reaction was, thank God. Thank God.

He has everybody's respect, you know, but it's good for us. I was very happy because I don't like anything about Alabama, really except for Nick Saban, because I kind of respected him. So now I can kind of dive knee deep into my full hatred of Alabama. Is Tennessee no longer the best team in the state of Tennessee? Is it Vanderbilt? That's a fair question.

Whoa. I'm a journalist. I have to ask questions? No, I get it. You're investigating. But listen, some questions just don't need to be asked on Rocky Top. We love Vandy.

Hell no. You got little brother. and you want little brother to do well, you're proud of him. But on rivalry week, you're gonna beat the crap out of him. I still think we're better. No, f*** no. We're gonna whoop their ass in November. We're gonna beat Alabama.

We're gonna beat Mississippi State. We're gonna beat Kentucky, and then whoop Vandy's ass and go to the national championship. Go Vols! But you didn't include Georgia in that. Tough scene. They're a particular SEC fan base that is worse than the rest. I love the Georgia Bulldogs as much as the next Tennessee fan.

Zero. I hate Arkansas. Arkansas is the worst fan base I've ever, ever, ever encountered. Kentucky. I hate the whole f***ing state of Kentucky. That's all I'm going to say. I hate them. No one likes Florida people. I mean mean it's just simple as that.

The show is based out of Miami, my friend. Oh, I'm sorry, I do not care. I hate Florida too, he's with me, I f***ing hate that place, it sucks. Just kidding, I like Gainesville, they're nice there. I will say, I was looking for a ticket and I got on the app, Game Time, you know, used code Dan, got $20 off. Or Lucy. Or Lucy. What time is it got $20 off. Or Lucy.

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Dan, just like that. Make no mistake about it. The Voss are back. Woo! There was a lot of college football to talk about. If I'd been smarter and not worn down from last week's business dealings, I would have had more college football earlier in the show. The college football had more fun in it than the

professional football did yesterday, although I guess Lions, Vikings is fun. But again, it hurts here locally to have Jazz Chisholm and Giancarlo Stanton and Dan Campbell and all of these people, and Miguel Rojas, all of these people who couldn't wait to hear. Enough of him. What is he doing? Get out of here, Miguel Rojas. Did you see when he was trying to tell Shohei Otani how to bat like a month ago or week ago?

Ridiculous, that guy. This is going to be the Revenge World Series, Miguel Rojas on the bench against Jazz. That's the storyline everyone should be focusing on. We're all looking at Shohei Otani and Aaron Judge and all of these superstars, Juan Soto, Mookie Betts. The best storyline in this series is Miguel Rojas and Jazz Chisholm Jr. going head to head in the World Series.

You want to create rivalries, that's an actual rivalry. These guys genuinely do not like each other. They do hate each other. I have enjoyed the baseball a great deal and Seeing Mookie Betts come back to life is pretty cool seeing the Dodgers be overwhelming offensively Even if Freddie Freeman is all medicated and can't can't even get out there Scoring more runs in like just endings to God's is met season. Yep runs in just ending Stugatz's Mets season. Yep. And giving us the World Series that's

going to do better numbers than I don't know the last World Series that will be better than this World Series. I would imagine this is going to be the highest rated World Series of all time. I mean, you have Yankees, Dodgers, and Ohtani. What do you mean, no? Not even close. It was?

All time? Yes. It could. No. You have the two biggest markets. Guys, there used to be three channels. There used to be like three channels. What are you even talking about?

The ALCS and NLCS were on Fox Sports One in lieu of the Masked Singer was on Fox. When there were three channels, Dugats, there would be 70 million people watching. Right. I saw that Bronco Saints that Dan was talking about earlier saying get it out of my life did like more combined than on that same Thursday. There was like a game six ever Mets like it baseball did not even come close to

Broncos Saints. Baseball has shrunk. College football is the second biggest sport in America. Baseball has shrunk but it makes it no less interesting that you've got Yankees and Dodgers that you've got yankees and dodgers and you've got physical giants in the sports got john carlos stanton is all of a sudden babe ruth he had five hits against cleveland out in twenty at bats all of them were home runs you can see the

guardians deflate picture and catcher that the photographs were amazing, Stu gots, of the way Naylor and whoever had given up the the large home run to whomever, right, because it's Stanton and it's Judge and you hear the sound and the catcher and the pitcher collapse in like physical despair because they know it's going out because they know that the end the thing that is the thing the Yankees haven't had for the last 15 years they haven't been in the playoffs is they go all or nothing with the home runs and then they can't get the home runs right hope they get to the

playoffs and they don't get the home runs against the elite pitching Cleveland was pitching strugats that's Soto at bat. That's Soto at bat, he does not swing at balls. Like the plate discipline of that guy is totally absurd. And I'm sitting there watching and I'd be like, yeah, I'd give him first base and pitch to judge. I'd rather pitch to judge. I put runners on second and third because I don't want any parts of what Soto is.

He's gonna look so good in a Mets uniform next year. I mean, I cannot wait. So Soto is batting and the announcers are describing him as stalking the pitcher. Yeah. The announcers are talking and they're like, how do you pitch a guy who has no holes? The failure rate in that sport is seven out of ten times,

but not with him because he walks so much. He's basically, you're basically every time he's up, you're playing 50-50 ball with whether or not he's gonna get one base or he's gonna take all four of them from you. The highest rated World Series was back in 1978. You know who played? Yankees Dodgers.

Thank you. Yeah, this has a chance to eclipse that. To try to help him out. That was back when there were only three stations, I understand it. Hold on a second. You don't understand. But in the modern era is what I meant. Maybe to help you out, Stugatz, instead of highest rated, That was back when there were only three stations. I understand it. Hold on a second. I don't understand. And fewer people.

But in the modern era is what I meant. Maybe to help you out, Stu Gatz, instead of highest rated, you might end up with the most viewers ever because when you're looking internationally. I'll take it. And you have Yamamoto and you have Otani and it's Yankees Dodgers.

That's what I'm talking about. And you're looking at the most people to ever lay their eyeballs on a screen that's playing the World Series. That's where you may be right. Thank you. International. International. Yeah. Okay, he stumbles into it. Maybe nationally. Yes, here we go. Not nationally. Stugatros, right? Thank you. Holy. Stugatros, right? 100%. I'm with you. You are right. Appreciate it. You are right. Thank you.

Let me ask you guys a serious question. Who do you think is gonna have more viewers on Monday? Because for whatever reason we waited four days to get to the World Series, and now it's going up against football for whatever reason. Instead of taking advantage of like, hey, why don't we do a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday situation? No, we're gonna wait till Friday, and then Saturday they have to go up against Texas A&M,

and then on Monday they have to go up against, now this is not a good game, Giant Steelers. Who do you think has a higher rating? Giant Steelers or Game 3 of the World Series? Who do we think had better ratings last night? Dodgers, Mets or Jets Steelers on Sunday Night Football? Jets Steelers. Probably Jets Steelers.

NFL has wins. Probably. Exactly. I said World Series. Well isn't there a chance, I mean the WNBA numbers have been kind of huge. Is it absurd for- Yeah, it probably didn't help that there was another game

on that, it was a New York team also. Does Grimace go to a farm upstate and get shot now, Stuart? I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm looking up the WNBA finals ratings because Dan is wondering whether or not that eclipsed either of the other events that are on now. Baseball has shrunk, okay,

but this will bring it back with plenty of viewership and interest because it's the giant guys fighting against each other. It's the home run hitters. LSU, Texas A&M, Saturday night. It's a huge game. De facto playoff game. Exactly right, it's an elimination game, Dan.

I'd argue that it's probably more important than the World Series in terms of stakes, right? Okay, this is what I wanna talk about if we're gonna talk about college football, because I do wanna get to Texas and Georgia. And I wanna get to, thank you, Greg, good contribution. You needed it. And I wanna get to, it was a small window,

and I wanna get to. In Georgia, always on my mind. Love that, I can't hear the word Georgia without singing the word Georgia. I feel that way about Rocky Top, Greg. No, I have that stuck in my mind. Love that. I can't hear the word Georgia without singing the word Georgia. I feel that way about Rocky Top, Greg. Now I have that stuck in my head. Yeah, you just can't.

Somebody says Georgia and Georgia. I just literally cannot help myself. I apologize. Go about your business. Tennessee, Alabama. Alabama, I would not want to coach that football team. Like the SEC is hard and... Certainly not after Nick Saban left.

No, but that's... You don't replace the guy that replaced... That's what I mean. You do not replace the guy, Dan. Someone taught me you replace the guy that replaces the guy, but you do not replace the guy. And Kaelin D'Bour decided to follow the guy. Understood. Bad decision by Kaelin D'Bour. That's where I was headed. the guy. Bad decision by Kailyn DeBoer.

That's where I was headed. But also a bad decision by Mike Norvell. He could have had that job. And it would feel a lot better than the predicament he's in at Florida State. But before we get to the bigger games, I just wanted to ask you guys a couple of questions, because I think Navy and Army are good enough

to both be in the playoff. I can't believe I am saying that. Oh boy. We'll see about that. Notre Dame's got a big one against Navy this weekend, Dave. But Deshaun Peele for Navy had two pick sixes and on the last one I think he had the best feeling in the entire sport because he went 85 yards with it

and then at the very goal line trucked the quarterback. Like ran 85 yards and then just ran over the quarterback at two pick sixes he had in that game but the thing to mock over the weekend and Jeremy thinks he's gonna skate on this and he is not his player had the most embarrassing thing to happen in the sport this weekend where UCF is up by a touchdown I've seen any number of players over the years drop a ball before the goal line to celebrate a touchdown. I have not seen it in a way that costs a game because... It didn't. They scored a touchdown on that possession ultimately because they recovered the fumble but they did blow a

lead at the number nine team in the country with an opportunity to finally turn the season around but I didn't watch a second of it I was at a Broadway show. Huh. The UCF, that thing is the most embarrassing thing to happen in the sport. Oh yeah. Just UCF in general? Yeah. And no one picked it up.

It was just, the ball was just sitting there. Yeah, the ball just sat there for a while. That game, that blown lead, everything about it was embarrassing. UCF should be embarrassed. Like that's the position they're in. You're saying it's the most embarrassing thing to happen in the sport this year?

I think so. or just last week? Vanderbilt beating Alabama, I think. No, but I think, again, I think we're all confused by this. We've seen it happen enough. Deshaun Jackson, I think, did it two or three times in his career, once in high school, twice in the pros, dropping the ball before the goal line when touchdowns are hard to come by,

and you just need to run a half more yard without dropping the ball. We all wonder every time it happens. That's got to be the last time that's ever gonna be a mistake made by somebody, right? You will learn the lesson of never doing that again And yet it seems to happen every couple of years when you would think on an interception like you're a defensive player How many touchdowns are you ever gonna score? Wouldn't you want to hold on to the ball? That ball forever forever? Why would you drop the ball before the goal line? I can't understand the logic at all. You take that ball home.

Right. Yeah. So I went with some of the fringe stuff that happened, but the big thing of the weekend was Georgia doing that to Texas, right? Because we thought Texas, Oh, Texas belongs in the SEC. Texas might be at the very top of the SEC. Texas went into Alabama last year and won. Texas belongs in a different sphere than Oklahoma. Oh, Georgia's still king. Georgia might lose to Alabama, but Georgia can still ransack you with its athletes and make it so that none of your quarterbacks can do anything because their defense has a bunch of pros on it. Yeah, Georgia's defensive front is so they were so good in that game and they were

so good at making yours uncomfortable in the first half and Texas getting shut out in the first half was crazy and it makes up for the fact that Carson Beck again doesn't have a good game and it's it's kind of hard to I know Kirby smart said after the game that like no one believed in them and you know ESPN didn't believe in them and et cetera, et cetera. Which, yeah, I mean everyone did have Texas in that game because it was a Texas home game. So maybe he's just going off of the picks. But the reason why I think is because now we've seen

two games where Carson Beck hasn't played well. And in the Alabama game, the second half was a different game. They came back and Georgia almost won that one. But I think maybe that's why. But again, like the defense is so good that it didn't matter in this game. And even though there was some real BS

in the third quarter with that pass interference call, Georgia just completely dominated Texas at the line of scrimmage on defense. That part is the part that i was not expecting because texas has obviously athletes all over the field i wasn't expecting uh... an ass kicking along the front that sort of makes the manning it makes

everything texas has going on in dates backfield not matter at all because you can watch that game and say they can play a hundred quarters these two teams and this defensive line will continue to do this to this offensive line there will be no scheming your way out of this there will be no quarterbacking your way out of this it's too much athleticism there's no way to stop this the best athlete on the field and it's a field full of world-class athletes was Jalen Walker I mean that kid was so good in that game with three sacks and three force fumbles. It was ridiculous. I mean, won the game for him.

The SEC has a look, man. I wouldn't want to play Texas A&M. If I threw Texas A&M in the playoff, I would not want to play against them. They've got a bunch of pros along the defensive line. And I'm watching Tennessee, alabama's not a lot worse than they were last year man saving up a smoking mirrors last year that was not that good of an alabama team that ended up in the last four you saw how it is

that curby smart and dabble swinging made up some of the ground on alabama clinton is no longer that, obviously no longer that. But the top of the SEC, whether it's Georgia or Alabama, they might beat each other up, because you gotta go to Tennessee and somebody will lose at Mississippi. They might beat each other up. But those feel like the best teams in the sport to me.

But when I came in today, I asked Jessica, who's the best team in college football? And she said Oregon. She asked it with a question mark. I changed my mind, Indiana. Man, they kicked Nebraska's ass. Although Curtis Rourke is now going to be out for a couple weeks with a thumb injury.

But yeah, I guess I say Oregon, because they beat Ohio State. They looked good in both phases, but I still think George is really good. And like they were, I guess, in Kirby Smart's mind, forgotten about after losing to Alabama and it doesn't help that Alabama then went on to lose to Vanderbilt.

Two points from losing to South Carolina or three points from losing to South Carolina the following week and then lost to Tennessee in a game where Jalen Milrow was just making a ton of mistakes. Their offense couldn't create anything. Explosive plays out the window. They just got completely stomped by Tennessee's defense and you're like well why couldn't Georgia figure that

out sooner in that game because then they win that game in Tuscaloosa. After Tennessee had lost against Arkansas at Arkansas because all of those SCC teams have athletes but you mentioned Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart has to manufacture something because he took the sport from Saban over the last couple of years. That's the hardest thing. Really, like forced Saban out. He never beat Saban,

but he has taken the sport from Saban, yes. I mean, he has. He won the championships and his team is now what Alabama has been, even as it loses to Alabama. But Kirby Smart is manufacturing over five weeks basically. Oh y'all, you forgot about us when we've been the best team in the sport for two years and now you guys are ready

to crown Texas when they got here four games ago. It's a bunch of BS. No one forgot about Kirby Smart. No one forgot about Georgia. You can't do the disrespect thing after you've won two out of the three last national championships. You just can't do it. You can't come out and say, no one respects us.

Everyone forgot about us. No one forgot about Georgia and everyone respects Georgia. Everyone knows how good they are. And everyone knows they've won two of the last three national championships. Kirby Smart enough, please. He's saying shit. I mean, seriously, he is just saying stuff to get his team riled up. I am tired of Kirby Smart. I can't help it. I mean, what do you want me to do? You win two out of the three last national championships. You steal the sport for the greatest coach

in the history of the sport. Everybody was picking Texas. Get out of here. I took Texas by double digits. But what is Coby Smart doing? He's trying to prove something to me. I didn't respect you. You care that Stu Gotts didn't respect you? I didn't forget about you. I have plenty of respect for you.

Please, get out of here. The reason that when you asked me who the best team was, and I said Oregon, was because Oregon survived what could have been a catastrophic situation on Friday night. They go into Purdue. Purdue we know, they're really bad this year, but previous seasons they've been giant killers, right?

They've knocked off top teams in the country before. But then this happened before the game to Oregon's mascot. And this was when I said, uh-oh, if they can survive this game against Purdue, they may actually be the best team in the country. Oh! Oregon's mascot just got trucked by an Oregon player. Oh, lost his head, put his head on backwards. Oh, the mascot caught him.

Literally, not figuratively. Yes, that can't happen. That's a fireable offense. You gotta fire that mascot. Everybody knows that. That's mascot ruleable offense. You gotta fire that mascot. Everybody knows that. That's mascot rule 101. I don't call for firing, but when you lose your head, that's an automatic unemployment.

So you don't fire the player who knocked him over? Blindsided him? No, I mean, that wasn't the player's fault. He sides with mascots. And you gotta have your head on a swivel if you're a mascot. I mean, the head can't come off. It can't come off. That's a, yeah, you've gotta be able to fire that duck.

Oh. At least the mascot isn't ducking the contact. All right, you're gonna have to leave. Out. Honestly, a great job by the mascot there. Like the quickness that he got the mask back on was kind of impressive. That should have been DPI by the way.

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The next three weeks are probably going to be kind of crazy if things are going to continue to escalate to an unhinged, overt, rabidly racist and misogynistic, awful that's just dividing the country more and more. And somehow, Stugatz, it seems like in all the swing states, we're somehow at 50-50. Jermell Hill left the ESN so that she could speak freely about all the things going on in this country. She's got a new podcast, Spolitics, where she's mixing sports and politics because they matter. New episodes every week on the iHeart radio app, wherever you get your podcasts and it's at Jamel Hill on YouTube. Before we get to the politics of

the moment, let me play this sound that we played earlier from Cheryl Reeve because we're talking about the officiating instead of a deciding game going into overtime because in the WNBA last night, Cheryl Reeve understandably was upset after the game. You know, it's a shame that officiating, you know, had such a hand in a series like this. Obviously, there's always going to be a team that's going to be a little more disappointed than the other. I thought today was incredibly disappointing. The challenge, we have got to change our challenge rules, and the officials doing the game should have a third party

because that was not a foul. And all the headlines will be Reeve cries foul. Bring it on, right? Bring it on because this was stolen from us. Bring it on. Bring it on. Jamel, your thoughts. She is right.

It wasn't a foul. However, you know, and this is where I have a hard time. I understand from her standpoint, why she's so upset. I mean, this is fresh. She's just coming off losing a championship. Decisive game five, could have went either way at a lot of points. And certainly the way the Lynx came out

and punched New York in the mouth, I mean, it really did early on look like this was gonna be theirs to lose. But when you have an entire overtime after that, can you really say it was stolen from you? Because that wasn't the, you know, I get it. Like they not only missed on the file, they also missed the fact that Breonna Stewart

traveled right before that. And these kinds of things unfortunately happened. You know, I do think overall her point is correct about the officiating. There needs to be an upgrade in this league along with, you know know maybe looking at how they do things and how the approach of the shooting at all but i i i thought it was a little bit need for it to kind of go there

uh... the way that she did and it's partially as she did considering the fact that again you have an entire overtime to change the outcome of this and you didn't do it and at the end of the day, I mean, that's kind of what people are left with. The thing that I'm surprised by Jamel is that not often after a championship,

do you hear the losing coach ever say they stole that from us. Like that's, it's an uncommon thing to hear. Yeah, I mean, and that part was in a weird way, kind of refreshing because a lot of times in these games, we'll see very obvious things. And we watching at home, we know that some shady business is going down. And then when afterwards, we ask the coaches and they usually have that sort of generic, oh, I don't want to get fined or I don't want to come

down the officials from an honesty standpoint, it was refreshing. It's just maybe, you know, in that moment, it was a little disappointing to use the word stolen because that's kind of disrespectful to the Liberty. Jamel, we're marveling at your multitasking here and we're thinking of Greg Cody trying to do what you're presently doing, which is taking an Uber and getting, I don't know,

coming from the airport to the airport, but you see- Neither. Okay, whatever you're presently doing, which is taking an Uber and getting, I don't know, coming from the airport to the airport, but you see. Okay, whatever you're doing, you're multi-tasking, giving takes while walking through errands. I would trip over myself. Yes, so we salute you for your analysis here. A couple of other things from sports that I wanted to get to here.

I don't know how you feel about your detroit lions going into minnesota uh... they're now five and one uh... jared goff over the last four weeks is playing the best quarterback anyone's ever played quarterback in here's dan campbell everyone loves man campbell in detroit here's man campbell after the game i was a man to say that i'm proud of you would be the massive understatement i love this freaking team

I love the coaches. I love the players. I love everything about it, man We're so freaking hardened even when doesn't go the way we wanted to man you find a way people love him so much How could you not? Jamel your thoughts on the on Detroit going in and ending Minnesota's undefeated season. I Think Detroit is probably established itself easily as the best team in the NFC. You know, I know people are going to bring up that Bucks loss. The Bucks are a good team. The Bucks are a playoff worthy team, but I mean, I think Detroit right now, I mean, they're just playing at a Super Bowl championship level. And to go into Minnesota,

beat an undefeated team, I think it was like just another statement win in a season of statement wins. I mean, Jared Goff has been exceptional. He kind of got off to a slow start this season. I think it's really time to start talking about him as an MVP candidate. When you look at his completion rate, when you look at his command of the game, when you look at how he's leading this offense, I don't think it's any question that he should be right there in the conversation

among the many names brought up for MVP. And may I just say, Dan, this feels so odd. We're talking about sports. I don't understand this. What happened? Have y'all changed? Hold on. What happened?

Hold on. We're gonna get to the politics in a second, but we're just luring you out. We're luring you into the den before it becomes a feeding frenzy. It's more than that on golf though, Jamel. Against the blitz, against pressure, his numbers are better than any numbers you ever see against pressure and in the last four games they've scored more touchdowns than he has in completions. So it's not just that they're winning, it's that they've sort of figured out

offense in a way that gives you, you know, it's the best of both worlds. The Dolphins fans got all excited because they just had offense last year. Now people are looking at the Lions and they're saying, no, that's a complete football team. Yeah. I mean, it is different when you look at it, not just their style of offense, but I think the creativity too. That's what people are drawn to. Yeah, I mean, it is different when you look at it, not just their style of offense, but I think the creativity too.

That's what people are drawn to. I mean, they have one of the best offensive coordinator, coordinators in the league and you know, every game that you watch them, they do something that makes you go, oh my God, like they really did that. And more importantly, they executed it. So, they have an incredible amount of speed and quickness among their skilled players. I mean, we see Gibbs and Montgomery, like those are dynamite running backs. They got JMo. This team does not have a lot of holes. And I think it was an even bigger

statement for them to play that way considering they lost their best defensive player in Aiden Hutchinson. So for them to play the way that they did and to do so with such authority, I think this team, again, best team in the NFC, and they look really on track to go to a Super Bowl. I wanna play some sound for you here because Deshaun Watson got booed off the field after tearing his Achilles, and his teammates rushed to his defense.

And here's Myles Garrett before we get to Jameis Winston. Here's Myles Garrett, not happy with his fan base. Man does pretty much everything right. He's been a model citizen through college and most of the pros. Wow. Let's play the Jameis. Myles said it was city.

Yeah, let's play the James Winston. He said most of the time in fairness. Yeah. Most doing a lot of lifting there. Now, James Winston here had a rambling speech here that had a lot in it. He always does.

I was taught to love no matter the circumstances, especially for people who do right by you. I'm grateful that I had a chance to serve the sun, but I am very upset with the reaction to a man that has had the world against him for the past four years and he put his body and life on the line for this city every single day regardless of your perception regardless of of what you thought should happen with him he committed every single day that i've been here to be the best that he can be for this team and I know I come from I come from the deep south Birmingham Alabama, Bestment Alabama so I

know the standard that hungry fans want but the way I was raised I will never I will never pull on a man when he's down but I will be the person to lift him up. And that, all of us have unique experiences. All of us have circumstances, conditions, and facts that we face every single day. And I pride myself in being a man of increase and being a man that wants the best out of everybody. I'll tell myself every morning what I want for myself

I want for everyone and I do not want The treatment that the Sean Watson has received From these passionate fans. I know you love this game But when I first got here, I knew these were some amazing fans But the Sean was treated badly. And now he has to overcome another obstacle. So I'm going to... Jermell, he so badly wants to rip those fans.

He knows he can't, but he wants to rip those fans. If James Winston doesn't become a mega church pastor in like 20 years, he's kind of doing it wrong. He's like, I see there is that major Creflo dollar energy in there. Um, and I don't want to laugh because I don't want to make light of this. And see, here's, here's the problem is that I football players, we know that they're wired very differently and they're speaking to the Deshaun Watson that they see in the locker room and what they're incapable of doing and what they didn't do is that they're being at the same

time very insensitive to the women that Deshaun Watson may have possibly assaulted or women period who are looking at this like, I'm sorry, did he, when you say, when you call being accused of sexual misconduct, assault, abuse over two dozen times, that is not a unique circumstance. That is not overcoming an obstacle. Those are situations and problems you with your conduct possibly created. That's a totally different story from what they're talking about. And for Miles Garrett to call him a model citizen. Look, guys, I understand that's your teammate and you're going to ride for him.

But you don't need to make this man sound the way that you made him sound. Like, he's not, none of this was forced on Deshaun Watson. People were happy to love him as a football player and as an upstanding person. He is the one who changed all that. If y'all are all about accountability the way that y'all say, then you need to be accountable accountability the way that y'all say, then you need to be accountable to the fact that it is possible that this man has done something so hate us. And here you are talking about his character when it's like, I just, something ain't that enough.

I do agree with them that what the Cleveland Plains did was classless. And my, and further my issue with them is this, is like all of us are old enough to remember that when they signed Deshaun Watson, and I'm not saying every Cleveland fan felt this way, but they certainly went out of their way, a great many of them, to basically to rationalize, given this man this kind of money,

despite all of the things that he had been connected to, they were the ones who were equally making fun of these victims. They had all these massage parlor jokes. You could see some of the shirts they were wearing at the tailgate from a free to Sean Watson. They were equally complicit in wanting him to be there and dismissing

a lot of the serious allegations against him. So for them to suddenly have the line drawn at, cause he's a bad football player, cause see that's what that boom was about. See today everybody's trying to change the narrative, at least some of the fans and say, no, I was always against them signing the shot. I said, no, you weren't.

A lot of y'all were not against them signing him. And so it just seems highly hypocritical to me that you wind up, what turns you off about Deshaun Watson now is that he was bad at football. It had nothing to do with him possibly sexually assaulting a number of women. It was the football because trust me, if he was really good at football,

if the Browns were winning and if that offense looked different, they would not be booing him. They would be celebrating him. They would be finding out ways to rationalize whatever behavior that he's been accused of. So I hate to say it, but like this is this is how the machine of sports works. It's like winning. What do they say? Winning is the deodorant that covers all stink. And when you don't win and you have the kind of History that the Sean Watson does then yes that leaves you that leaves you susceptible to being booed in the in the kind of classless behavior that they

Exhibited but let's not get it twisted about what's really going on here Nobody cares about what he might have done to any of these women. They just care that he's a bad football player what he might have done to any of these women. They just care that he's a bad football player. Jamell, it has to be asked, when you see a photo of Donald Trump working the express lane at a McDonald's, are you finally coming around that this guy, he really is a man of the people in touch with the common man? Did he win you over? was really charming to know it was charming to know. It raises everything else you have to admit it was a political masterstroke and he's changed the way you're going to vote

now. Yeah, of course I just couldn't help but think of the coming to America line and soon I'll be on fries is like what are we doing here. I mean, he looked so awkward and so uncomfortable. And of course, we're finding out there reports that they'd actually closed that McDonald's and much like a lot of things he does in his, um, in his life. This was totally staged. It's like it was his supporters that were the ones in the drive through line because I'm gonna tell you what,

if I pull up in a draft and I see Donald Trump on the other end of it, they can have all the food. I'll be like, you know what? I'm just tell you what, if I pull up in the drive-thru and I see Donald Trump on the other end of it, they can have all the food. I'll be like, you know what? I'm just gonna keep going. And so they probably had to stage it because they probably were afraid of the real reaction that he might actually get from some people who pulled up in the drive-thru.

It was just about as a ridiculous circus. And you all know that the only reason he went to this McDonald's was because Kamala Harris said that she worked at a McDonald's So he said, you know what Kamala? I'm gonna do you one better I'm a fool to you that I could work a prime machine that I could flip some burgers And when I saw this man throwing salt over his shoulder looking about This is what he does that he's superstitious and I couldn't help but watch the employees faces in that video because they were all looking at at him

Like does he know that if he actually had to work at McDonald's he probably get fired in an hour and And lucky for him. I do think McDonald's actually hires convicted felons. So there's that put it on the pole Please do you at lebatard show would Trump be fired within an hour of working at McDonald's? Jeremy you have a top five list of just strangest things or most racist things. Racist, crazy, strange, silly, outlandish, disqualifying. That Trump has done in the last week? Yeah, it's been the last week to 10 days.

So we can start with a couple of OLIs. OLI, when asked about calling people who don't support him the enemy within and being given a chance to clarify, he said, No, I think that's accurate. He is doing an interview with the Saudis despite avoiding media here. He was asked about lying about the Haitian immigrants saying that they eat dogs and cats and responded after being called out by Fox News on that lie with Well, what about the goose?

When the lights were very bright at one of his rallies he said these lights are so bright my eyes I can't see the people I can only see the black ones. I can't see any white ones That's how far I've come a long way isn't it still? I've never seen any white ones, that's how far I've come. A long way, isn't it? This is still O-O-O-O-I's. Now, number five. He told Barstool Sports that he stopped playing football because quote, he didn't want to get tackled by

some guy who was lifting weights all day long and came from a bad neighborhood. Number four, he told Fox and Friends that he would defund public schools if they teach about slavery. Number three, the whole McDonald's thing. Number two, he told a supporter who was fainting at a rally in Pennsylvania to quote, lose weight,

and then told security to get that fat pig off the couch. And then finally, number one, he talked a lot about Arnold Palmer's dick. Go on. Jamel, your thoughts? Can I throw in an honorable mention? I don't know if you guys have seen the video of him calling Sage Steele by the wrong name. Oh yeah, I meant to ask you about that.

How can you botch that name? I meant to ask you about that actually. See, you were gonna get out of here. Wait a minute. Look, look, she is, she's inflammatory on purpose. She knew I was going to let her go without asking her about sage steel. And you wanted to comment on the sage steel grift of not even Donald Trump having the courtesy of pronouncing her name right if she's gonna sell her soul like that. That's what I'm saying.

I was like, you know, if you are going to rap for somebody that hard, and, you know, she's doing TikToks and all this other stuff about her love of Donald Trump, and imagine getting in that moment of being onstage with this man who you have willingly embarrassed yourself for many, many times,

and you have gladly and gleefully joined his cult. And then for him in that moment, for him to get your entire name wrong, I just, I mean, that is, that has got to be a top five. Was the grift worth it moment that I've ever seen in my life. That was your friendly neighborhood race lady. Yes, she is running on a platform of stop the steal. Thank you, Jamel.

Spolitics is the new podcast. Were you going from, are you in a dressing room right now? Is that where you are right now? I am, cause I was actually headed to my new job, which I think I can talk about now because they officially made the announcement 12 minutes ago. All right, well tell us, what's the new job?

The new job is I have a new TV show that'll be on True TV, also appearing on Max. It's called Above the Fold, a return to, and this is now a cuss word almost, long-form journalism. Oh wow, you're gonna study that? Look at that, all right. That is, as I like to call it, losing in the modern age.

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