The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Holy Trinity

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

Are we still making movie stars? Whether we do or not, Dan has questions about plastic surgery in Hollywood. Then, Stugotz delivers his Weekend Observations! Plus, Lance Stephenson sees some of himself in Anthony Edwards, and Kim Mulkey continues to embrace being the villain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. If you guys agree with Wesley Morris, the famed movie critic for The New York Times, Wesley Morris is on a recent episode of Poblatori Fines Out, and among the things that he said is, there are no more movie stars anymore. That Tom Cruise and Denzel Washington and The Rock, that that is the last age of what movie stars look like, and that it's all changing. I think Emma Stone has a pretty good chance of being a movie star. However, it is that you define such things. I guess Bradley Cooper and Ryan Gosling are movie stars. Carrie Mulligan. I think of that less so in the sphere that I'm

putting these people as a recognizable name, but what I wanted to ask you guys is do you agree first with the premise that that movies are changing so much, fewer of them are being made, you can get movies. It's sort of the same thing I was talking about when I was saying that the sports broadcasters throughout sports media, all of us are largely disposable. The way they're making movies, the way they're negotiating in Hollywood over artificial intelligence, the more you diminish the star power of the biggest stars, the more you can maximize profit or stock price so that all the movies can be a little more like Boeing and

You know wheels are falling off at the movie theater But you can keep right of remaking American psycho like they're talking about doing a roadhouse and you can traffic on Nostalgia and do Guardians of the Galaxy in the Marvel movies you could save Disney by just putting Deadpool and Wolverine together and in 24 hours you get a trailer that is seen by more people than anyone has ever seen in that amount of time before because you put the two superheroes together. You love the movies, David. Is what Wesley Moore is saying first of all true?

Not in my mind. Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. Are they not movie stars? Ryan Gosling, movie stars, these are young. We're talking like this. Scarlett Joh Are they not movie stars? Ryan Gosling, movie stars are young. We're talking like this. Scarlett Johansson, movie stars. The Gineiros, the Pachinos, the Val Kilmer's,

like that day is. Oh, that's cause we're old. Val Kilmer was a movie star, dad. I mean, that guy. No one is putting him in the lead. What's up on a time? It's not the Gineiro, Pachino and Kilmer. That's not the law for the people.

Holy Trinity. Oh, this is for me. I mean, I have a lot. Trinity of Stallone, I mean. Kilmer. Not making them like they used to, David. They are. No.

This is, I think, someone overreacting to what's going on with AI overreacting. I think the middle class of stars going away, but not the highlight of the top of the mountain. I can't even believe this is the proper articulation of the take because it feels so off base. Like there are so many movie stars in their current forties or so, which is the age we're talking about late thirties, early forties with some of these stars, and even the next crop, like-

Margot Robbie. Timothy Chalamet and Tom Holland are both movie stars. Like movie stars, real movie stars, blockbuster movie stars. Different, Shalamet, I saw him the other day in the Willy Wonka remake. We're making movie stars differently than we used to because it's not quite.

The right way, Dan. It's not. Shalamet's style icon is Kenny the Jetsmith, which surprised me, caught me off guard to have Timothy Shalamet say that his style fashion icon is Kenny the Jet Smith pretty crazy that that guy whose name is Timote Chalamet is actually just a Jew from New York Theater Kid. It's hilarious. It's perfect who rides his bike all the way around New York City. He's the best. I love him. He's just a normal guy in love the Coopers as an awkward kid. They

not remember that call back to Shalame starting. I completely disagree with the take. I'm happy Pablo had him on. It got a lot of views for Metal Arc, excuse me. But I thought the take was very lazy. You all saw that Jesse Plemons was very thin yesterday. Fat Damon, as he's referred to, you know the face if you don't know the name necessarily.

He got very thin. So the problem in Hollywood, and this came up during the show last night, people were asking about who the current Osempic people are in Hollywood. It's a big thing, people are taking Osempic and they're getting an Osempic face. I was struck by Jesse Plemmons, I'm hoping it's for a role. I'm hoping he's doing a Matthew McConaughey type role,

maybe some sort of disease, some sort of thing he's gotta work for. Well you're not hoping it's a disease to be clear. Well, that he's a plane. Someone really needs a plane. He's playing a plane. Yeah, no. Okay, all right, I'm just being, David.

Well, you did earlier say that you thought someone would be okay with all the people dead in Ukraine so they could win an award. So, you know, sometimes we got a question and you're like, it's very clear on this one. You did say that. That's not exactly how he said it. I also said agents last night and not Asians.

So I think my, I need to enunciate better. This was not an enunciation, it was just terrible judgment. It was not an enunciation problem. It was just really rancid judgment. Which what, you know, it happens when you're speaking for 36 consecutive hours. I say that Oscars for documentary filmmakers you've hit the motherload. You win an Oscar for best documentary you are green lit. Go again. Then I'm just gonna go. If you do that then I go. No you don't have to go just go to the

penalty box. No but I'm telling you that I'm only going if I go. Go to the penalty box. He's going for good is what he's saying. Don't threaten me. You're not gonna threaten me and get out of the penalty box. If you wanna go for good, go for good for getting again around the inference and insinuation that people should die so someone could win an award. Take that out of here, don't double down on it, don't just get out of here with it. If you're going for good, Dave,

you might wanna take your phone. Seems like an empty threat when you leave your phone by. It's a classic day Classic day exam time. Acrophon. Yeah. In the context of what Hollywood does visually, Stugatz, and the pressure that it puts human beings under and insecurities and the vanities the way that it feeds them.

I saw that Ryan Gosling, because there was a closeup on his face as he was doing the Ken stuff. He's a classically handsome human being who has movie star good looks, but it was obvious from the closeup right on his face that there was a great deal of filler that he's using. And it got me to thinking

because there's so much vanity in this business, I actually did some research and I can't believe what I'm about to say to you, I did not know this before I looked it up. I did not know that there was such a thing as a chin implant that- What? Now, hold on a second, it's not Ryan Gosling who has the chin implant it's Bill Cower it is no they implant they implant powers chin in Michael B. Jordan when he grows up as a kid without a chin and then it becomes obvious

that Michael B. Jordan has a chin implant. And also, if you look at photographs, and you can, this isn't hard to find, Emma Stone's do gots, her face does not look the same as it did when she was 17 or 18 years old. It looks different and people do the investigative work on this stuff and they shame these people. But like, most people's faces don't look the same

from when they were 17 or 18 years old. And contouring makeup looks different and you lose baby fat. Okay, but chin implant. Chin implant. It looks like the same chin to me, but I haven't had a chin. This whole like doctor or plastic surgeon makes a TikTok video over photos of celebrities is like,

there are, it's making so many doctors, air quotes to some of them probably, so much money. People love to consume content where they can look at a celebrity's face and be like, oh, they got this done, they got that done, they have veneers, they have filler, they have this and that. It is just an entire economy now.

And I just can't even, I watch it. Like I'm not saying like I'm better than this like it's interesting to watch but I don't even know how you can be sure of it like I don't know how you none of them are gonna admit that they've gotten this work done so a lot of times it's just stranger speculating on someone's own history with plastic surgery and it's kind of weird. Can I get a picture of Dan when you were 18 versus when you were 35? Sure. And I'm gonna suggest that you will look as though you've had something done.

That's fine, but a chin implant is not something that I thought was was an option was available to me. It's not even something and I'm tying it. Are you thinking about getting one? I'm tying it to the previous conversation that we were having about movie stars because if Michael B. Jordan is a movie star, Michael B. Jordan's looks are part of why he's a movie star and then a chimp implant becomes a pressure that you have because you have to make your face look a certain way. He was a kid in that picture.

You're sure he had a chimp implant? I'm not sure. I am not sure, David. I feel like when we're young, we all look young. I am not sure, but a lot of people are, as Jessica is saying, a lot of people are doing this expertly, and you could put photographs in front of me that would make me believe that Michael B. Jordan

got a chin implant. Expert and air quotes too, because some of the people doing it are just like armchair experts, but there was a whole, like, when that Jennifer Lawrence movie came out, I think no hard feelings. People were coming at her and saying, like, you look like you've gotten worked on. What happened to you?

Like, why did you change your face? And she may, I don't know if she's had any work done, but she claims she hasn't. And that it was kind of like weird for all these people to be saying that about her. And that she became very famous when she was very young. She won her first Oscar when she was 22. And now she's 10 years older.

And she's like, I'm just older now, I look different. My face is hollowed out. And it's like, kind of, there's like an ugly side to it where it's like, feels like people just making very like critical and just kind of shitty commentary about the way people look that I then think feeds back into the whole cycle of like celebrities trying to get all of this work done so that people can't criticize them

for looking like they're getting older. And obviously in Hollywood, there's been criticism about the casting of women for years. And once you reach a certain age, they don't make roles for women because people don't wanna watch movies with older women in them or women that look like they've aged at all.

So it all kind of feeds into this nasty cycle of- 80 for Brady. 80 for Brady, 80 for Brady. Exactly why I loved it, because four older women starring in a movie that completely retconned the New England Patriots Super Bowl, which that part I hated. But Rita Moreno and Sally Field, Jane Fonda, who am I forgetting, David? Those are movie stars. Yeah.

Absolute stars. And you don't see four older women get to star in a film very often together and be celebrated and cast for their age. I think it does set, all of this sets an impossible beauty standard that is damaging to a whole lot of people, but some of the people I didn't expect to be damaged by it would look like Michael B. Jordan looked before What is alleged is a chin implant like where you're placing the standard on how someone has to look to

To achieve with age in Hollywood Makes them makes the whole thing feel ugly and blemished But maybe Dave is just right about how you look when you're 17 and how you look when you're 35. Like can we put the picture of you back up on the screen there? Because you do look a lot different. I mean, you really do. Yes.

Oh, there it is. Yes. You had it. That's in preview. You're looking at the wrong screen. That's not... No, I'm seeing it. But you did have a chin implant.

You added a second. I mean... That's not nice. What happened there? It was, oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to leave. Now, you don't understand what happened. He was just, that all was said so he could get to that joke.

Like, he only, yes. That's as good as you got. No, that was, he didn't say anything for 10 minutes because he was just trying to get in position Some chin music to tell that joke Just wasted the whole segment but he's looking at the wrong TV screen and it's like I'm doing what I do Stugats here Did you know that according to FBI property crime data?

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A couple, yeah. That was literally the most confusing list we've ever done. But Chibos got a better shot at coming in. I'm mad. Give him a chance. He's got one. I'm mad. I'm angry.

I would have left. Stugats! This would have been your day. This should be, you should own the sports media landscape right now. I am, I am top seven guys, I would not want the judge. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'm giving him my prize! This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. It is time for Stugats to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boys too. Weekend observations brought to you by Miller Lite.

Great taste. Just 96 calories available for delivery. Dan, it's arguably the best time on the sports calendar. The punching of tickets, automatic bid, last four in, first four outs, upsets, buzzer beaters, senior guard play, sister Jean, Ed Jolinardi, Ed Dan, just like that. Make no mistake about it, March is back.

Sister Jean, I saw her the other day on the court. She's 104 years old, Stugatz. Yeah, was she taking credit for someone's victory or what was going on? What was she doing? He is the nation's preeminent sister gene critic. It is a lane no one else occupies. It's weird.

It's a terrible lane. It really is. Even for you. I regret the lane that I chose. Do you? I do. This may be his only thing you regret. It doesn't feel like he regrets it. That felt genuine. He didn't have you. I did. This may be his only thing you regret. It doesn't feel like he regrets it.

That felt genuine. He didn't have to do it there. I keep digging deeper. He didn't have to do it to her there. He was written for him. He's just reading. He's reading his writing. My thoughts.

In this case, in this case, it's not written for him. Dan, don't look now, but St. John's is out for blood. The last thing you want a Rick Petino team to do is let them sink their teeth in. I hope they make it first round exit. No, at best. They're out for blood. It's just a couple of vampire jokes, Samson. It's not a critique of the back quarter of St. John's not a critique of the back

quarter of St. John's. Although a good one. Well, their experience. That's all he knows. It's just a couple of vampire jokes. If you're ever wondering how much talent Kentucky has, they have two lottery picks coming off the bench. They're pretty good. It's insane. They're not the bench.

They're pretty good. It's insane. They're not the best. Russell Wilson is a stealer, which is fitting because he was stealing money from Denver for two years. Russell Wilson. Sorry, I got mixed up. Kansas do it on the road. Took a gummy on Saturday, turned on Arkansas and Alabama,

and could not figure out who was who. I love a good gummy. Sponsored by? It's hard, right? That's tough. Their team colors are similar. That's actually pretty tough. They're similar.

They are, they're not a single player you know. Understand. Never used to be that way in sports. How would it happen? Matthew Cleveland Transferring to Miami from Florida State and then getting swept by Florida State. Hey Matthew The grass is an always greener on the other side Here's a staff for you the last time the Miami Hurricanes won a basketball game was a week before the Super Bowl. Blue Bloods. Coach L. More like Coach L's. Coach L combined with the things you do to kill time

driving around the Midwest on a gummy in the passenger seat. Top five athletes that can own a letter in the alphabet. OLI, B. Brian Blair, C. C. Sabathia, Ernie Elves, Michael K. Are these all OLI's?

Yeah, I'm at number five now. Okay. Alonzo G. Michael K. These are all Eliza. Yeah, I'm at number five now. Alonzo G. Gummy, driving around the Midwest. In the passenger seat. Of course. Thank you, David. Number four, D. Brown.

Number three, John Jay. Number two, T Martin. Number one, Pee Wee Reese. That's all you have for me, good boy. That's it. All famous, right? Pee Wee Herman died this year. Really? He was in the memoriam famous peas very famous Here come the islanders Second to George Michael the aisles Put it on the pole, please juju more famous masturbator public masturbator George Michael or Peewee Herman

don't put that on the poll okay George Michael that's not what he was caught with it was fornication so it's different that's a fine yes it is different somebody else involved thank you their. They're fact it is. Hey, I'm a consequentialist. Maybe it's not. Sorry, still the way you're saying. Excellent timing. Hey, Oppenheimer, save some awards for everyone else. You didn't even watch.

Right. South Carolina, LSU, Chippy. The Miami Marlins are allowing drums and all musical instruments in the games this season. I swear to you, if I go to a game and the guy behind me has a tuba, I'm gonna punch him square in the face. What are they doing? You won't go to a game. You're right.

No risk of violence in the Marlins game. What they're doing is trying to create the same Latin atmosphere that they had for the Caribbean player. I tried it for decades. It doesn't work. He did try it. He tried. We allowed all that stuff.

We just did a press release. We did a Voo-Voo Zella game. We did it all. I know. I hated that game. By the way, it doesn't work news alerts Nice try and no one walks around with tubas Ryan Gosling so hot

My wife did that thing, you know, he kept coming across the TV screen who is that? It's like your wife doesn't know who Ryan Gosling is. Well, he looks different, you know, he doesn't know he doesn't So hot Duke Carolina With the ACC title on the line just feels right You want a good workout? Walk from the check-in counter to terminal C at Chicago O'Hare International Airport to Terminal C at Chicago O'Hare International Airport, O-R-D.

I do it four times a week. It's a workout, man. Ooh, can we talk about Duke for a second? They led for 16 seconds this season against North Carolina. Which 16? And not irrelevant, 16. And Kyle Flippowski is like all of the Duke players, it rolled into one, all of them. He tripped a player.

With his paralyzed leg? Tropkowski. He had a windmill dunk in the game after that court storming, by the way. What? Didn't he claim that he didn't trip anybody? Didn't he say that that, didn't he allege, didn't he deny tripping anybody't he alleged didn't he deny

tripping anybody after we all saw him trip which which tripping I'm talking about in this one the one in the one I'm sure he denied it but it looked like he tripped some someone on the UNC did hmm to my eyes Primo Spears great name talk out Russell Wilson had more touchdown passes last year than the Steelers have had as a team the last two seasons. You know what the Steelers got there, Dan out? They got an upgrade. Good. I was trying to answer for you. Yeah. That's good though. Thank you. The 76ers beat the next 79 to 73. The next 73 points matches the 73 points that Luca Donkic scored in a game by himself. A 79 73 loss felt like a

win for Tom Thibodeau. Thibs. I mean, he loves that game. Put it on the pole, Juju, at LeBertard's show. Did a 79-73 loss feel like a win to Thibs? No one loves a good rock fight more than Tom Thibodeau. Even if he's on the losing end, he was just so happy a game was played in the 70s. Yep. That's true. Thank you. Pat Riley used to love those games, too.

Yes. Back in the day. Ugly, ugly games. Stetson headed to March Madness for the first time. The Hatters. I'm more surprised to see that score 79-73 at the end of a game than I am to see it at the half. Do you know how crazy that is? I agree with you wholeheartedly. I thought it was halftime when I saw the box score. How about the Hatters though? If you're going to give Dan Hurley a technical, he's going to get his money's worth. That's true.

He really does. He's going to be my coach, come watch madness. That's what I got. Dan, you know what the C and Chris Jones stands for? I do not. Cha-ching. It was a lot of money a lot of garrison good for him though I mean yeah but you said this a year ago or two

years ago we are the most important guy in that sport besides the quarterback is the guy that can get to the quarterback and Chris Jones gets to the quarterback and he's getting paid to do it or the guy who could keep the guy yes I'm getting to the quarterback because Chris gets sacrificed now. Chris, Chris Jones is as much a reason for why it is that team won this year's Patrick Mahomes. Early in the season when he was holding out, they lost.

They were losing. They need Chris Jones. Stetson, the rare college that connotes a two time national championship winning quarterback and the Cologne first half Iowa Nebraska observations Dan the C and Caitlin Clark Stands for choked. Oh, come on first half observes You know what the C and Clark stands for it stands for Cheryl Miller

She is not second half observations. Dan, the C and Caitlin Clark stands for clutch. You know what the C and Clark stands for? Champion. What? She's not a champion. These are second half observations. You know what the C and Clark also stands for? Cheryl Miller can't hold a candle to this kid. Oh, wow. Okay. So yeah flip tail of two hands. Well, yeah Where's the ring There's no ring. You know what the C and corn Husker stands for a ring for winning the conference championship tournament. Don't you? Do you?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you get a ring. Yeah. Rachel got a big 10 championship ring. I thought they were only for national championships. You thought wrong. I think it's bizarre for people to wear their high school ring to a meeting when you're 40. Not a high school ring though. It's the best time of your life.

That's not. A high school ring is the equivalent of a high school ring. I'm not saying it's the coolest ring. I'm just saying it is not a high school ring. But what are you saying? Just to be clear, if you win a big 10 championship, like when do you have to take the ring off? No one wears their big 10 championship ring,

except for people who have not won anything else. But when can you? When do you have to stop wearing it? The day it comes. Killers of the flower moon. Do it at the Oscars. 10 nominations. The day it comes. KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON DO IT AT THE OSCARES 10 NOMINATIONS 0 for 10

Like Joe Maurer trying to win a playoff game Good news for KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON Those kinds of numbers got Maurer into the Hall of Fame First ballot The guy didn't win a playoff game. David agrees with me.

I cannot believe this. Did you think I would not? Joe Maurer is not a first ballot Hall of Fame player. He's a Hall of Famer. First ballot. I said first ballot. No, first ballot. That's my problem with it.

I differentiate first ballot from eighth ballot. He's moving the goalposts. He's been ripping Joe Maurer for getting into the Hall of Fame at any time. I mean, Michael Kadyr had a better season than him. The year he won the MVP. You think Fletcher Cox is going to get an hour to thank the band coach? That's funny. Fletcher Cox should look at what's happening with Jason Kelsey

and be like, I'm just as good as that to that's Taylor Swift. That's all that is. Yeah. College basketball is better when there's a Duke player to hate. In fairness to the Duke students, I throw trash on the court too. If I spent two months of my life living in a tent, only to watch my team give up 31 points to come back Ryan. Also Cormac Cormac Ryan you are 25 years old. Here's an idea. Get a job. Caitlin Clark

do it in the first half. March you count of the field you got dinner Get a job. Hey, it's 25. I Mean isn't NIL you don't think of college sports now as a job. They're making money. They have they have income Playing against 18 year old. They're making more than most 25 year olds But you're 25, you're playing against 18 year olds. They're making more than most 25 year olds. Fair. Get a job. They have a job.

Got a different job. One that's two knots of proof. His job at his age. Just got a job. You know what the essence Stetson stands for? No. Senior guard play. Watch out for the Pells.

Couple of late stragglers to our topic last week of what Dan would be called if he was a candy bar. Kit Fat. Peppermint Fatty. The first two teams locked into the field. I said a couple. A couple. That was two. He did say a couple. I said a couple. A couple is two. That's it. I didn't want did say a couple. I said a couple, a couple is two. I mean, that's it.

I didn't want to go too deep. I mean, sensitive. How many pages do you have left? Four. The first two teams locked into the field of 68. So a lot of teams. We're more head and longwood. Top five schools that would make a teenager giggle

That one I liked that's the first one I liked number five Fairly Dickinson That would always crack me up the night that's where my father went to school really fairly ridiculous. Mm- ridiculous. I would love to hear poppy say fairly dickens More head state the Eagles Longwood University The Lancers oral Roberts The Golden Eagles, South Carolina, Cox, Liverpool Man City, the rare tie,

where both teams feel like they won. No country in America, or no county in America, excuse me, loves a guy named Mac Jones more than Duval County. Isn't that the truth? He'll fit right in there. They love their Macs there. He's not the only one. No, surrounded by Max and Joneses for that matter. The B and Baker Mayfield stands for Back Up the Brinks Truck. Caitlin Clark, volume shooter. Spring ahead, fall back.

How about we just stay put? Because of Marco Rubio. I'm tired of all of it. Whoever came up with the concept of daylight saving times has a special place in hell. Speaking of hell or priors, Dan, those are the weekend observations. Don Lebatard during one long evening at the Burton's, Robert sent their guests, Tennessee Williams and director Joseph Lozzi running for the door.

But in Burton's words, she insulted Rex, she's not Rex Harrison, Rex sexually, morally, physically, lay on the floor in the bar and bark like a dog, started to masturbate her bass and hound. Oh Jesus Christ. What's happening? No. started to masturbate her basset out. Oh, Jesus Christ. What's happening? No. It's also not a...

He he he he he. This is the book and I'm like, how do I, you know, because to Mike's point, he says, no, I read the book. Well, okay, listen, I, I know this part, so you know I read it. Spookats. Have you ever met Mike before today? No.

No, first meeting. So your thing is in the first five minutes, let's talk about dog masturbation and giraffe. Because I knew he would be able I've never met Mike before today. No, first meeting. So your thing is in the first five minutes, let's talk about dog masturbation and drugs. Because I knew he would be able to relate to the subject matter. He would know what it's like. Because he's a guest on the show

and the guy's trying to impress him and he goes, okay, what's he gonna go with? So I figured masturbating a bastard hound was definitely something he could at least appreciate. Weird assumption to make. Was he right or wrong? I'm gonna say he was wrong. Oh. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

I saw the other days, Stugats. I'm going to assume that it's true, although I do occasionally get balsacked in this area because I will read a quote that sounds like it could be true said by somebody who shouldn't be saying such a thing but would say such a thing and then I get fooled because somebody has done the thing that people like to do on the internet where they fool people like me. But Lance Stevenson was quoted as saying his favorite player in the league is

Anthony Edwards because Anthony Edwards reminds Lance Stevenson of Lance Stevenson. So Lance Stevenson is saying that the guy who reminds him of him is the best player of the league, one of the best players in the league, future face the league, all that stuff. But Lance Stevenson. Good to see he hasn't changed. That's right. And it is good. It is good to see that he hasn't changed because when I saw the name Lance Stevenson, I found myself craving for something I believe more than even the movie star in Hollywood is unfortunately disappearing in sports, which is just somebody who's totally willing to be the villain. Now, I'm gonna put aside the fighting sports,

the combat sports, because they just use their mouths to sell and to market and always have a bad guy somewhere because that's part of the business strategy. But when I ask you, because I'm about to nominate somebody here based on this weekend's happenings in sports, when I ask you guys, who is the biggest villain going right now in sports? Who are you going with all across sports?

Obviously, Dremond is an obviously outspoken, obviously comfortable with dislike. But I have another nominee for you if you guys don't have anyone that you think is in that category. I had to Sean Watson. Yeah, but that's- Dylan? No, but that's- Are you talking on field only?

I'm talking about embracing the role personality wise. I'm not talking about criminal behavior. He's talking about Lance Davis. I'm talking about almost somebody who's proudly criminal. Like somebody who would be- Dylan Brooks, the genre. Dylan like somebody who would be Dylan Brooks John rent Dylan yeah, well villain Brooks II get you remove criminal from the description if we can Okay on court on field criminality

Yes, let's eliminate criminal, but no Jessica said it and here here is Kim Mulkey talking about the fight this weekend If you're aspiring to villainy, this is... Fight? Dust up? I'm sorry, kerfuffle. Which is also a way I would describe... Think Dust Freak is. I would describe her outfit as a bit kerfuffly. Both in demeanor and in outfit,

she goes for villain and in press conference as well. So listen to what she has to say. No one wants to be a part of that. No one wants to see that ugliness. But I can tell you this, I wish she would have pushed Angel Reese. Don't push a kid that you six, eight, don't push somebody that little.

That was uncalled for in my opinion. Let those two girls that were jawing, let them go at it. Pick on someone your own size. Such a weird take. And compared to Don Staley's comments, both in the post game press conference and her post game interview, everything she said since the end of that game,

this is so strange for Kim Mulkey to be like, criticizing who picked on who and not just overall like, yeah, we probably should have kept our cool and tried to win the game. That's how most people would do it. It's not how a villain would do it. It's not someone who cares not a lick what you think about anything.

You want to try us, try out her for size. Well, I just, I don't know that in coaching, not a lick what you think about anything. You want to try us? Try out her for size. Well, I just, I don't know that in coaching there's anyone doing villainy better than Kim Mulkey is in positions of leadership in sport, not caring at all what you think about anything because you also have to have here, this is important, right, in the business of sports. You have to have the resume to have the confidence to not care what your bosses think, what people in power who you respect think. You are so powerful.

You have to be so, have so much conviction about being an asshole that you could do it liberally without worrying what anybody calls you. You have to have great confidence to be able to do it. So Bobby Knight, is that your description of the villain would be? I mean, Bobby Knight was a great villain. But look, just look at all of Kim Monkey here on the screen and tell me that that couldn't appear in a movie of some sort as a super villain just on appearances, just what she's

going for on appearances. Like, if I tell you that person is evil and tell you nothing else about that person, just look at her, ask, and is that evil from the eye sockets to the soul? Evil or not evil, I like that. I'm not with you on that. I think she's doing the best she can. I don't think that that she's trying to be evil physically. She dresses nicely. She's a coach. Cartoon supervillain.

I'm talking about the cartoonish, like the 101 Dalmatian woman Glenn Close played her. Griselda. I just said that back in your, yeah. Cruella. Cruella. Griselda? Is that a Wizard of Oz character?

That. I think Griselda is a drug lord that killed many many Same thing. Villain. Close. Allegedly. Tomato, tomato. But we were keeping criminals out of this.

Billy rules with an iron fist. No criminals. Well I just don't want to call people criminals for the sake of car. Unless they are. Well yes they are. So Griselda. Criminal.

Allegedly. But playing the villain role is what Dan is talking about. Like Dennis Robbins played the villain role. He played it well. It's not easy to do. I imagine Stugant if we spend some time, like really in the introspective places where Dremont Green goes to therapy and finds himself as a confront, a confrontation seeker,

I'm guessing that that is not always something that he feels strongly about, that there are doubts involved with the darkness that it welcomes into your life to constantly be welcoming a fight with everyone. That would be like some, I don't know if Kim Mulkey has a great deal of remorse in anything she says or does, but it seems like she welcomes competitive,

she welcomes conflict. And I don't know how many people you know in your life as a personality trait that welcome conflict. Samson is one of them. I'm sitting across from one. But I would argue though that Samson has endured conflict since he was a child, so he's become more comfortable with conflict. He feels alive when he's in conflict.

I mean, is that fair, David? What's fair is, it is my love language. a child so he's become more comfortable with conflict. He feels alive when he's in conflict. I mean, is that fair, David? What's fair is, it is my love language. I think I need to self find for confusing Griselda with Galinda. Oh yeah. That's where the names were mixing the other two. But neither of them was Griselda though.

I meant to say Galinda, which is the witch. You merged them and I merged them all. And none of those are Cruella, which is who we were talking about. Exactly. Merged that too. So I think maybe the fines cancel out. I'd be willing to nominate right now. Any objections?

Behind Dremond, Kim Mulkey, the greatest villain going right now in sports. No close third place. Object. With? Time's up. Excellent end to the segment. Nailed it.

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