The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Home Run Maker

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

The show ventures away from football and touches on some of the topics from around the sports world this weekend. The New York Liberty finally overcame the Las Vegas Aces to advance to the WNBA Finals and we break down what it means for a team like that to finally get past their boogeyman. Plus, it was a WILD weekend in Major League Baseball that included an incredible Game 2 between the New York Mets and Philadelphia Phillies. The Los Angeles Dodgers and San Diego Padres did battle and things got tense between the fans and the players. Then, another major hurricane is coming for Florida and we are all terrified. Are we working Wednesday? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Football season is here, and there's absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that. DoorDash is the best place to order all your game day favorites.

Chicken wings, nachos, burgers, dogs, hey maybe even little chips and guac, something like that, get a little salsa in there. It can all be delivered with DoorDash. So this football season, don't stress about the cooking. Kick back and enjoy game day thanks to DoorDash. DoorDash, your door to more. Download the DoorDash app now to order your game day favorites. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. We have talked a lot of football, but there are games with stakes going on in the WNBA and in baseball. How much of a surprise is it or isn't it that the Liberty knocked out the Aces? I thought that the New York Liberty were

supposed to over the last couple of years be a team that was supposed to be dominant and doing this and this is the first time that they've done this to the Aces where they end their season. I mean I think it is but it isn't. Like the the Aces obviously have the best player of the season Asia Wilson on their team and one of the best head coaches and Becky Hammond but the team like really hasn't looked right throughout the season like there's been stretches where Chelsea Gray was hurt and not really looking like herself when she came back and then after the Olympic break Jackie Young's been fighting an injury but they have had

some like really spectacular games. New York is just, they're also very, very good and have several other very good players on their team as well. Breanna Stewart obviously having a great game, John Cole Jones and Sabrina Ionescu having a good series. So it's surprising, yes, because the Aces won back-to-back championships, but I think the Liberty have been a favorite

throughout most of the season, so it's not so surprising. It's a revenge tour, Dan. Like the Liberty, they were supposed to be that super team last year that competed with the Aces, and the Aces took it, and it's back to back. And now the Liberty all season long have felt like that team, it's like, eh, they just have it together a little bit more than the Aces.

Not to get back to Chief's talk, but there was times there was a little bit something off with the Aces, and you could just see it in this series. They took a game, but really this was New York's, the entire sort of season, this was New York's series to have, and Sabrina Younescu, like that was the one game

that the Aces got where they stopped her. But she has been on fire in this series, and her, Brianna Stewart, are probably gonna win it all. It felt very Bull's Pistons to me, and I'm sorry to go back so long. It's hard to beat the team that you have to beat to advance, and then when you do, you're looking for excuses. No, it's just, this is, I think it's just Liberty's time.

While the Aces do have the best player, the best coach, I think that when you win that series the way they did, and that's what I was thinking about, there's always a team that's in front of you that you have to get past. Yeah, I think a lot of fans maybe took the dominance for granted. Repeating a championship, very hard.

A three-peat, I mean, it almost never happens. It hasn't happened in a really long time. So yeah, it's definitely hard to maintain the same level of excellence throughout long seasons like they've been playing in. But at the end of the day, like it's two really high level basketball teams playing each other, someone has to win. This time around, it was finally the Liberty.

So now they get a chance to win a title in the championship. I am super interested, David, in what it is that's happening in baseball. And I have thought that the Phillies Mets series is the most interesting one of all of them for a number of different reasons. Those fan bases hate each other. Bryce Harper is an extraordinary postseason player. The Mets keep doing things late in games

that is super unusual. But the one way that you will get me to find another series more interesting than that one is start throwing things at the players in the Padres Dodgers series, and have Fernando Tatis embrace the role of, yeah, I'm a steroid guy, but also I don't mind being a villain so much.

When baseball has very few people who are willing to be the villain. You can see him in the outfield yesterday going super sensual with the pelvic thrusts. They won 10 to 2. He's hitting home runs. He is really taunting the Dodger fan base, it seems, with his penis. At the very least, he's doing it with his hips. I don't know if he's doing it aggressively with his groin,

but it does seem like he is enjoying a certain pulsation that he is doing below the waist at the people in right field. He worked in a few like Conor McGregor, like struts, he was going for something there. Was this, yeah, that was interesting, man. Pro-Far, like he seemed like he was getting emotional with it, David, because it was weird,

because the broadcast kind of came back, and it was like, this is happening right now. You didn't really get to see, it was just, you were just kind of hearing from the broadcast. I thought they did a terrible job, because they kept showing, like Joe Musgrove, I wanted to see what was going on on the field, and this is when I wished I'd been at the game,

and what I was frustrated about and what we found out later, Pro Fart did a good thing. He was bringing a ball to the man in the Dodger jersey, first row, who he robbed Betts' home run from. Let's give more context on that because he robs the home run,

but he did the thing where people weren't sure. Did he catch it? Was it a home run? And he waited almost, it felt like a minute, like 15 seconds to show the ball. So that's why he got the fans a little angry at him. It's one of the rules when you make a defensive catch like that is you pimp it.

You don't have to say that you have the ball very quickly. You get to live in that moment. And if you see there's a guy in a Dodgers jersey and he looks at him and says, oh, you got it, you got it, you got it. So a few innings later, Profar brings him a ball, which we encourage and charge them 7.95, but we encourage them to bring the ball to the fan, but then he threw it back, but not at Profar.

So then what happened, another fan threw a ball, and this time at Profar, and then what happened, another fan threw a ball and this time at Profar and that's when all hell broke loose. I don't feel like it was all hell. I feel like it was just 11 minutes. Half hell. Corner of hell, not even half hell. Look.

It was a malice at the palace. I feel like hell's a lot worse than that. It's not, all hell did not break loose, just a tiny fragment of hell. Hell usually happens at an Oakland A's game. Let's examine for a moment how much joy Profar got from doing that in Dodger Stadium. You catch the home run ball and Mookie Betts is running around the bases. He thinks he's hit a home run. He's joyously going around the bases as

Dodger fans sort of want to celebrate but Profar is dancing and laughing in left field, hopping up and down, because he's the only one who knows he's got the ball in his glove. Betts is past second before he realizes the ball has been caught. There is nothing worse than the U-turn

of going past second and going right to the dugout. That, to me, is the biggest nightmare for an offensive player. It's such a cool view and made me start thinking of like, Stu Gotts' old ways to save baseball, and if you just have a bunch of fans there fighting, because that's such a low fence over there. So if you have a low fence and the fan's fighting

for the ball and he catches it, the player catches it, it makes it even cooler. I gotta be honest, Dodger fans, you failed there. Like you gotta whack that glove. Like you really do have to try and it's in your seat. You have to try and help your team more actively there. Make a play. Just go for the ball so you interrupt him at least.

So the anti-Bartman is what you're saying. You need to do something so dramatic that your life will be ruined forever when people find out who you are. She gets it. Except when a ball is coming at you like that, you can't think that way. That's like saying that Steve Bartman

was getting in the way of Alou knowingly. It's absurd. Okay, but Bartman was doing it not knowing game situation. Those fans in left field need to know that that is game situation. They need to help their guy out there. They need to be aggressively trying to catch the ball

and get in the way there because that's not, that's something that they could have made a home run by simply being more aggressive. You disagree with this. You are allowed to interfere with the fielder who is out of play. That is for sure a rule. And I'm wondering whether we should tell our fans

when you're sitting in the first three rows of the outfield, you have to go almost full Jeffrey Mayer. No, what you do in that spot, because if you know what you do, when an outfielder is coming up to the wall to try to rob our home run, he's hoping that his other outfielders are telling him, wall, wall, wall, you need to be yelling wall a lot sooner

if you're the fans there. Make him think. I'm gonna hand out gloves to everybody. That's what we're gonna do next time, because if the guy had a glove, he probably would have caught that ball. Well, to me, this is like going to your favorite artist's concert, right?

And you're sitting close enough where the artist pulls you on stage and you have a once in a lifetime chance to perform with your favorite artist, your favorite song, and you forget the words. Because this is a playoff game in LA. You finally have a chance to turn what could be an out, a spectacular out, into a home run,

and you missed your chance. And all you could do is stand there and point at the player who caught it. Oh, you got it, oh. David actually just had a great idea. You give everyone in the front row gloves. If you just hand them out, like, you know, the odds are maybe a ball-

795, don't hand them out, 795, but everybody gets one. Just go for the catch. It's not interference if you're just going for the catch. I'm innocently going for the catch. I'm not gonna, you know, Dan said whack the glove. I think that's a little aggressive. It's fair. With your glove. But as long as you're just making an effort for the catch. I'm innocently going for the catch. I'm not gonna, you know, Dan said whack the glove. I think that's a little aggressive. It's fair. With your glove.

With your glove. But as long as you're just making an effort for the ball, it's all fair game. I like Chris's idea though of just making the outfielder just super confused. Like, it's like a fake shot clock chant at a basketball game. You just gotta have them a little off guard.

Surely you guys have been in arguments with people where it is that things get heated and then on the drive home, you're like, I should have said this, I should have said that. I ain't cheatin'. This would have been a good comeback. Tell me those fans in left field yesterday didn't go home saying to themselves.

Oh no, they're a failure. I need to have been more active there about not allowing the Padres to do that to me in my home stadium. It's rare where you can help your team. And they failed. I'm with you, actually. I'm coming around on Dan's side here.

Everybody leaves a situation saying, oh man, I should have said that. That's a Costanza-ism from Seinfeld where you think about something and then you wanna go back and do it. Yeah, it's a jerk store situation, but one of those fans got so mad, he threw a ball back onto the field

and that was taking it too far. So that was a fan who did it who was not part of that home run. The one who threw it at pro far was someone who was not part of helping cause it to be a home runner and out. The man in the jersey, he just took the ball from pro far and threw it away from pro far.

Which is, I respect that move. There's no foul play there. If he gives you a ball and you don't want it, get that out of here. Are the Cubs the only fan base that does that? If you hit a home run into the bleachers, they throw it back? Right, I thought that was a thing.

It is definitely a thing. You just can't throw it at the player. Right. I once threw a ball back that was, I was sitting in the outfit with a group of friends and everyone started doubting me mid-game whether I could throw a ball from where we were sitting to the infield dirt. And I was like, folks, I played high school baseball,

I know I can do this, and it got so heated with the debate, I asked the bullpen people, I was like, just bugger the play, let me get a ball! And they gave me the ball, once I got that thing in my hand, I'm like, I'm throwing this. And in the middle of one of the innings, I waited till all the players walked away, I just told my friends, I'm like,

you guys are all about to eat crow here. And they ate crow. I landed it right where the shortstop stands. Did you get ejected? No. Did anyone see you do it? No. I'm just throwing back a home run.

It's the same thing as throwing back a home run. Is this at a Marlins game? Yes. I waited. There's just no one there, that's why. Yeah, there's no one. Well usually we have a one to one security to fan ratio. This was probably seven or eight years ago.

That's dangerous and dumb. I waited until the inning was over, Dan, and they were clearing the field. What about the grounds crew? It wasn't one of those innings. Dan, you want fans to whack a player in the arm during a game? While going for the ball because, look,

that player, Profar, was in their space. They weren't Profar's space. That's out of the field of play. The Padres, this has never happened before in a post-season game. The Padres hit six home runs on the road. That's the first time that that's happened. So it doesn't actually matter, this one play, because the Padres ended up winning the game 10 to two.

Wasted some home runs, if you ask me. In a long series, like if I'm up seven one in a game, they hit three home runs after that. Like you're only gonna hit so many home runs in a series. You are wasting home runs. I can barely get Cody to respond to text. Barely in the world of business. Last night, late at night.

Any such thing as scoring too much? That's, I mean, I was just like, it's 10-1. It's like, these guys are gonna regress to the mean. If you go four for four with three home runs, that means you're due to go 0 for four the next game. But you won't respond when we're trying to coordinate like planning the show, but you're awake and you're texting about going to.

I mean, I was infuriated. I was just like, what's happening right now? Why are they still trying to hit home runs? They're up nine-one, although they did send a statement, because after all the controversy, the Padres hit like three home runs right to that left field again. And there was a little like meaning behind that.

Like, yeah, you want to throw stuff at us? We'll keep hitting balls at you. How good a feeling do you imagine it is? Mookie Betts is rounding the bases. They put up the graphics. Betts' first home run of the postseason. The graphics are up and Profar is hopping up and down and he's the only one who knows he's got the baseball in his glove and

He's not showing the baseball to anyone. So for five to ten seconds He's enjoying being the only one in the stadium except for that little cluster of people who can't find a baseball in left field He's the only one in the stadium who knows it's not an actual home run Do you think David that if he if Mookie Betts started sprinting and he's playing games out there not showing the ball yet If you touch home plate before he shows the ball, it's a run. No, it's it should be there needs to be a time limit You can't just hold the ball in your glove. an hour. Showmanship. It was five seconds. Dude, what do you mean? Maybe.

It's a long five seconds. Betts was almost to third base. Betts was almost to third. He was running fast. Show me the ball clock, like five seconds. There's gotta be a clock. Why? Because it's just not fair.

What if it's like two at bats later? He's just like, by the way, I have the ball, guys. Like there's a line. There's a game ball. Before the next guy comes up is where the line. Like what if it's like two at bats later Before the next guy comes up is where the war before bets it's home So you think okay? So just to be clear you think that pro far might be right now in left field and hilarious and bringing out the ball This morning the next morning There's been a bats there's been all sorts of stuff. Where's the line, David?

Because at some point this becomes a controversy. Not in five seconds. It's a long five seconds, it's that's my life. I'd like to count. Can we do like a count to find actual lapse time? If it's taking bets past second base, let's go ahead and do this right now. Are you ready?

Let's go, let's do it right now before it is that we realize when it is that he's got the ball. So he's got the ball right. Ready? And now. One, two, three, four, five. And you're out.

Six, seven, does he know yet? It still says home run. He's walking, he's running to the dugout. I don't know when he're out. Six, seven, does he know yet? It still says home run. He's walking, he's running to the dugout. I don't know when he found out. It's at least between seven or eight. Definitely after five. After five. It's gotta be a good feeling though,

to be the only one in the ballpark who knows that he's got the out in his hand. And it's gotta be a crushing feeling. You know how hard it is to hit home runs? For Mookie Betts to be delighted rounding the base at first, rounding the base at second, and then like, oh my God, my heart is broken.

I don't know, it's only October. That's right, that's the answer to everything. Well baseball October's everything. So only October means different things for different things. But by the way, Mookie Betts is terrible in the postseason. So for him, he thought he was getting out of a slump. He thought that this was an opportunity to get a hit,

and the Dodgers thought that they could come back from the first inning home run and maybe win the first two games of the series. Kyle Higashioka has as many postseason home runs now as Mookie Betts. Four career postseason home runs, four career postseason home runs for Mookie Betts. It's pretty unbelievable. That's suboptimal.

It's crazy. And this isn't even the most interesting series, because all right, guys, I'm going to say something. I think I'm rooting for the Mets. Oh, no. Dude, the Entos last night. Say that again? Vientos.

Vientos last night. You've made it like a mint, a Mentos. It's Vientos. It's like a harsh wind, like what's coming this way off of the west coast of Florida. Vientos, the home run maker. And then Pete Alonso, they're getting me out of my seat. Baseball has not gotten me out of my seat of like holy crap.

It takes a lot. And they did it twice this weekend. I mean, I'm gonna say it, I'm rooting for the Mets. How hard is that? So you're watching the Mets and you're literally standing up out of your couch. When Pete Alonso hit that home run, it brought me out of my, and vehicle's coming. Show us what it looked like.

All right, so I'm watching, and I'm like, oh, there's no way Pete Alonso's. You're sitting upright, like there on your couch, not leaning back? The hit hasn't happened yet, guys. Give me, let me play this out. And then it's, someone give me the crack of the bat. Whoa, no way, no way.

Holy shit, this team just keeps doing this, because they did it even before the field launch. Who are you talking to there? I don't know, I don't remember actually. Probably just myself, I just broke a pen. Vientos, the pitch he hit in the ninth inning, David, a 3-2 pitch that was way up in the zone. I didn't think that that was way up in the zone.

I didn't think that that was something that he could yank out of the ballpark the way that he did. He's a major league hitter. It's happened a lot in the postseason. Ventus, a major league hitter. Am I saying it? Vientos. Vientos, yes.

In Spanish, it's a harsh wind. When you're the number two hole hitter, you are known as, these days, that's the best hitter. That's where you put him in your lineup, in the two hole, in general, that's what most teams are doing. And what's making this playoff so interesting and why people are watching,

is that people are rooting for the Mets, who wouldn't otherwise root for the Mets, and that is a major thing that Cody just said. Because to have a Marlins fan or anybody rooting for a team that you root to hate, that's when ratings come. Well, every year in baseball, they're that team right now. They're the team that feel, even though they all are, they're also the highest paid team,

but they feel like an underdog because of how they played all season, and they just, every eighth, ninth inning, they're the cardiac Mets. Well, it's crazy because the Mets have won four games since Monday. I'm emotional about it, I apologize. That's five dollars.

Yeah, I'll Venmo. Four games since Monday, all on the road. In three of those games, they scored a combined 18 runs in the eighth inning or later. And when it comes to the drama with them, entering this year, no team had ever played three straight postseason games in which the team that led

entering the eighth lost, and the Mets have now done that in four straight games. Have you noticed that they're all back to being three and a half hour games? What's going on with that? So what happens in the postseason is the breaks are an extra 15 seconds each so they do an extra commercial. So you're adding four minutes before you've even started. In more ways than one you're adding. Because it's an ad.

Keep going. Oh, ADD and ADD. That's a good joke. Hit it Dan. Sometimes it just sucks so good that it just- Hit what? When he makes a joke that makes everyone stare at him, stops the show in its tracks- Just because you guys didn't get it, somebody's cackling in their car right now. What am I hitting, Izzy, when we're all, the show just stops and then in an audio medium

what you get is just silence and everyone's staring at each other. What am I hitting? It's only starting for the, stopping for the people in this room. Give him a laugh because the look that David gave just blankly back into this room like, what the hell does he mean by that?

And then he hit him with the explanation. I loved it. You guys gotta keep up. PJ Fleck is the awkward transition as I take us out of baseball back to college football because on Monday we cannot get enough of college football. Why was he yelling at a referee? What is the backstory on what it is that was happening here?

I actually don't even remember what he was yelling about at this particular point because I as I rewatched it this morning I'm like, what is he? What is he saying? Can anyone tell me what he's saying in this video to the referee because he is Furiously mouthing words at the referee and it is very funny to try to picture what he's trying to go for here Let's see. He's to try to picture what he's trying to go for here. Let's see, he's... Oh jeez, he looks, I can describe it to the audio audience, he looks like a dog, like a shih tzu,

about to eat something. Like you know when they're calm, and then all of a sudden it's like, I'm gonna tear up this glove. It sort of looks like he's just going like, woof woof woof, woof woof woof woof woof. And because you can only see the shoulders up, it also looks like he just came back

from the shooting of Grease 3 because he's got like a weird Letterman look with a yellow tie. It's very strange. It is an unusual amount of anger, I would say, and it escalates very quickly from he is already a bit rabid and rage filled, but then he can find a whole nother gear of rage

where I didn't know that he had that in him and then he just storms off. So whatever he says is the final dismount on this discussion. I think this was the last Minnesota touchdown that put them ahead because initially they ruled it short and then they reviewed it and called it a touchdown. So this is happy?

Well, I think this was mad that they didn't call it a touchdown. Honestly, there was, Dan, there was so much happening on Saturday. This happened simultaneously with this crazy Michigan, Washington national championship rematch game going on at the same time. Anyways, so then Minnesota goes ahead on this touchdown. They go for it on fourth down, get the touchdown,

go up by seven. USC gets the ball back. USC has apparently not won a game in the Eastern or Central time zone since 2012. I read that stat this weekend and I find it just impossible to fathom, but now they're in the big 10, so they're gonna be playing a lot

in the East and Central time zones. So they get the ball back, Miller Moss tries to throw it in the end zone, throws a ridiculous interception to end the game, and Miller Moss tries to throw it in the end zone, throws a ridiculous interception to end the game, and Lincoln Riley loses to Minnesota. PJ Fleck gets a huge win, this is the 11th ranked team in the country losing at your home stadium, and Minnesota's unranked, and this was the happy moment.

This was the happy moment for Minnesota. Now I'm imagining him saying, good call, good game from the, thanks for your work today. I really appreciate you I Think he walks away there realizing he's been ineffective. You can't get that angry and be effective. Can you oh I disagree I think he sees that he has made his point and he thinks he is walking away a winner in that argument that the the referee Has no rebuttal for anything. He just did to him I think the ref just walked away saying, you're an idiot. Can we get a still shot of the ref's face afterwards?

Like, holy shit. I don't know. The ref looks pretty kind of scared for a half a second there, like backing away because he's like, oh, are you going to bite my face? I think the outfit and the bald head gives him something of a like professorial look. And so when he comes out with this furor right away,

it's just like, whoa, this does not look like a professional. I was gonna say that Izzy, so this is what he wears on game days, the like vest over the collared shirt with the tie and usually matching pants. So like this was an all maroon outfit with the little tie and the collar peeking out. It's very like preppy from PJ Fleck.

And he is a smaller guy. I did, I don't know if he actually crowd surfed at the end but there was a moment after his post game interview where the fans are rushing the field and I was like please someone lift him up, please someone lift him up. David I know this, I'm not trying to offend but there's a moment where you see a short person surrounded by a crowd and you're like I just need this person to crowd surf right now. She really went to you on short people expertise there,

is what she did. It feels like something that after a World Series win, you should be crowd surfing, David. Have you crowd surfed, is the obvious question. Everybody's looking down. Where's David? Let's get him on our shoulders. So I can have all sorts of strange hands on my body?

No, I have not crowd surfed. You guys have this right, though. This is absolutely how it is that a dog goes from not barking to barking ferociously. This is not how human beings interact with people. It's how a dog is just looking at you and then scares you by barking. Also, Lincoln Riley.

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And we're all wondering why Let's turn on the news and find out How we're gonna die Die It hurts me to talk about this stuff I know that people do not want to hear about it I don't like, David, that my life... I'm now stuck in the algorithm of I get a whole lot of weather stuff on YouTube tracking

Milton. Milton is gathering strength and so I've seen over the last five days how forecasters aren't quite prepared for the new normal. They started at 90 mile an hour winds and now we're quickly going to a hundred and forty mile an hour winds because of how hot the Gulf of Mexico is. It's currently at 86 degrees in October. Last year it was at 78 degrees. Since 2010, according to an analysis by the Washington Post, the Gulf of Mexico has experienced twice the global average of sea level rise. It's irreversible.

And over the same period, the population of Tampa Bay has grown twice as much as the national average. So the owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning is right now in the middle of a $3.5 billion waterfront project and this, you laugh, but we have had $27 billion disasters this year. There have been 40,000 insurance claims in Florida alone this year. I think as bad as the wind that's coming this week

with Milton, the surge is, the storm surge isn't gonna have a precedent and what you're going to have is areas that have already been ravaged by Helene are now going to have all sorts of debris flying on top of debris in in waters that are going to engulf Tampa in something that looks to be pretty horrific and has me really scared. Evidently South South Florida is gonna be spared this time, but we're all playing like the opposite of this natural disaster lotto with when's one of these hurricanes gonna hit

in the place that you are? Do people think that about earthquakes? That it's just a matter of a moment in LA and you're gonna be sucked into a crack? So you're saying the Tampa Bay Lightning should change their team name, That's what I'm hearing. I mean, and the hurricanes as well. The Miami, the University of Miami hurricanes as well.

I'm really concerned about what's coming this way this week. And I don't just mean this way South Florida, because I don't think South Florida is gonna be unscathed. The amount of storm surge that is headed this way is going to make life very difficult for people. When people buy riverfront, waterfront property, especially in Florida, we're always told you're gonna pay a premium,

but know that in terms of generational wealth, it's gonna end up being at some point underwater. None of this should be a surprise to you. Oh, but insurance companies fleeing the state at the rate that they are, make it so that this next disaster feels like the one that's gonna make Florida uninsurable. I don't know if you remember but last week I believe I was on the show is right before the last

hurricane and I was heading to Sarasota the day of that hurricane was supposed to hit on a Thursday and fortunately got a text from somebody who lives out there shout out Amber Wilson who said that yeah you're not even gonna be able to get on Siesta Key they're gonna be keeping people off of it, and then we started doing the research and realized that the storm surge, because his condo, we'd be staying, I was right on the beach, would have flooded your car. Like, that would have been at least up to, you know,

the seats in the interior. And my partner has a house in Sarasota, and he's now having to do this again, like go through all the hurricane preparation again, and it's just been a couple of weeks, and it just makes you question everything. You don't know what's gonna happen and his neighbor was telling us a story the last time

we were there of just her sister just getting caught up in one of those, what do they call, the flash floods and dying instantaneously because she was coming home to feed her dog because there was a storm on the way. What are you laughing about? How can you be, how can that make you silent laugh? I'm gonna laugh out loud and tell you exactly what was in my head, which is that we spent time in 0405,

if you're old enough to remember here in South Florida, shutters up, then shutters down, then shutters up. We had four or five hurricanes in a row. This is 20 years ago. And yes, people were talking climate change at the time. And yes, the Gulf of Mexico is warmer. But there are years when there are back to back hurricanes. It's happened here before.

But not like this where they come in almost without warning. And you're just forming right on top of you in South Florida on any given day. Not this one in particular. But the weather experiences have just been way more severe and without warning, and so when you do get a hurricane situation like this on the way, you're probably thinking to yourself,

this might actually be worse than I think historically a category three has been in the past. You have a choice, you have time to evacuate, totally different than California where an earthquake just happens. There, it didn't, hurricanes don't just start on top of you You absolutely have time to not go to Sarasota or to get out of Miami This has gotten to category four now very quickly They don't know whether it's going to be diluted before it makes some landfall

But the speed with which these things are increasing I believe has which these things are increasing, I believe has forecasters only knowing a little bit because what I'm telling you is that because of the nature of my fear and what I've gotten caught in the algorithms, I'm watching the weather a lot more than I'd like to be. And I've watched over the last four days, people in St. Petersburg and Tampa who have some expertise in weather not know how fast this thing was gonna get

to where it is that it's gotten. They've been, they knew it was coming. There has been warning. You have to be paying attention to these things. There has been warnings and you have four and five days of warning, but what is coming now to Tampa in terms of storm surge, storm surge? It's not, the winds are bad enough.

140 mile an hour winds are crazy. Like that part is scary enough. If you're in your house and you feel all the windows rattling and the doors rattling and water coming into the house because of the flooding, but the storm surge that's coming after that, because it's just the ocean coming to grab land is something that is like really horrifying. And it's not something that is like really horrifying and it's not

something that I've experienced before having lived in South Florida the first 50 years of my life. You said 20 years ago I've never had this level of fear for what comes this way because I can tell the forecasters don't know what they're talking about. They're underestimating everything. Just read about the Doomsday Glacier and the way that it's melting in the Arctic and some of this stuff, how it's, I know people wanna deny climate change because you wanna make this something

that is just totally random, but the stuff being irreversible is the problem with all this, that we don't have a solution. Confused by David here, where if you get enough warning, then it's okay that your house is destroyed? Like, I don't really understand why you're not making this as serious a deal as earthquakes, which again also destroy things, but without warning.

I had to live in a hotel for a month in 0405, so yes, without power, and it caused me to get a generator after which there was no loss of power for the next 15 years. No, I do take this seriously, so I think that you're mistaking my reaction. What I'm trying to give you is a frame of reference, which is you have warning here.

I do not find it excusable for people not to evacuate. I don't find it excusable for people to die in this, in hurricanes, whereas in earthquakes, it just happens. Carolina's got warning, and they seem pretty devastated after Helene. They got way more rain than was anticipated, and then mudslides with all the mountains. Brutal. Totally different. That was something that was not actually forecast. We in Florida,

we're sitting here, I'm sitting in Miami at the Elstor on the 36th floor and everybody's calling saying, are you leaving? You're not staying. Are you going to keep doing shows? And I'm choosing to stay and do it. So isn't it my fault if something happens to me? The problem is that so many people don't have the resources to evacuate or be able to go anywhere or pay for hotels or whatever it is that is needed to be done. Or they have to go to work. There was a story of people that weren't able

to leave their workplace and six people died because their bosses told them they couldn't leave. Like, this is not, like, this, it. It's devastating. That's the exact issue. Is there so many people who are still being forced to stay where they are? Because we in Florida have long treated hurricanes as like a a nuisance or an inconvenience almost rather than the weather emergency that it is. We wait, are we going to schools, are we gonna shut down workplaces, who knows what's it gonna be,

and the issue that all of us are finding when you talk about the forecasting is something like this one that was originally, oh, it's gonna be a one or a two, and so most people don't make the plans to evacuate, and then because of the heat in the Gulf, now all of a sudden it's a level four right now, and people are needing to make the proper accommodations

and leave, some of which don't have the resources, some of whose bosses are not giving them the opportunity to go. Do we close with a warning or just a watch or not at all? I would also like to know what our plan is for this week. We can talk about that. There was a time when all plans were made based off just what Flanagan's is doing.

If Flanagan's is open, we're open. If Flanagan's closes, we're closed. I'm pretty sure that David just said, I don't think I heard this wrong, that if someone dies in a hurricane, it's not excusable. I believe that that's what he just. That is unbelievable. Look, when I was, I was what,

15 years old during Hurricane Andrew, which ended up being a category five that hit South Florida. I was just north of the five area, so what hit my house was probably a three or a four. But with this warning that you tell us about, David, I knew maybe a day, two days ahead of time, that this would be the most harrowing experience of my life, because my parents weren't going anywhere.

They're like, this is our house, we bought this house, we're not moving. And we stood there and I was absolutely, lights out, terrified for hours thinking we were gonna die. Like just waiting for the top of the roof to fly off and us hanging in a bathroom like holding. That stood with me, it still does. It still does to this day.

So that warning that was coming made it worse. Not saying that I didn't want the warning, but it actually made it worse because we're watching the TV watching impending doom until you can't anymore because the lights are out and then you try with the radio and you may be fine and it's like it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, you have no idea. Literally other people in my house fell asleep, I could not fall asleep, I was just literally thinking

we were all gonna die. I'm very sorry that that happened to you, that sounds great. No, but we got warnings, so it was okay. And you can mock the warning all you want. The warnings are there for a reason. Why do you think they're telling people to put marker?

No, it's not the warning I'm mocking, it's you. No, no, I hear exactly what you're doing. Why are they telling people to put markers so they can be identified? Have you been reading about the government saying that? Put your name and your birth date so you can be identified. And that's not scary to you. If that is, it seems what to me?

Scary. It seems very clear what you're supposed to do with that. You are being told to evacuate and you choose not to. Those are the people I don't feel for. Do I feel for you and Hurricane Andrew? Obviously. But David, did you not hear what they just said? You're being told to evacuate and some people,

some people because of their means, because they have to make life and death choices that work is making them, you know, there are so many people, something that's happening very clearly in this country right now is that as people talk about, well, the economy's great, the economy is great for the richest

among us, and it creates a division that makes the poorest among us not be able to afford basic necessities. And if you can't afford basic necessities and you're being told to evacuate, but you have to make choices between life and death immediately, or I don't have the means right now to get away, I would say that you're coming from a position of privilege when it is that you say- It's so convenient, Dan, to blame my view on privilege or color.

There are shelters, there is not one person who cannot evacuate because they don't have the means. It's just not accurate. Now, bosses, Jessica, I would like to say that if you work for someone who makes you come to work when you don't wanna come to work, you should have the right to not come to work. But that doesn't happen, like ever.

So I am obsessed. And they'll lose their jobs and potentially jobs that are saving them from whatever. Like I can't believe that we're in a position where we're like blaming people who are being prevented from leaving for whatever reason for the suffering that they might go through. Like I just, I can't believe that.

I'm happy to try to clarify one final time for you, which is when you live in a place where you know, I'm not talking about living in Parkland. I'm not talking about living in Montana. When you live in a place that you know, I'm not talking about living in Parkland, I'm not talking about living in Montana. When you live in a place that you know is subject to weather events, it's not new this year. I was two decades, it's at least how Andrew was four decades ago.

If you live in a place that you know is at risk, whether you make 10 grand or 10 million dollars, you know that you're in a place at risk and then your government tells you there is something happening right now. Get out. And then you purposely choose not to. And what Izzy's saying is,

because I love my house, I will never abandon it. Or is that why they didn't? Or did they say they couldn't afford to go to a shelter? And I have great respect for that fact, but you're gonna choose death or the possibility of death over the inability to go to a shelter? No, it was 12 of us in the house, so we didn't have a car that could fit us all,

or multiple cars that could get us out of there. And yeah, it was my dad's property, it's the only thing he owned in the whole wide world, so if he's going to leave, why would he leave that behind? No, he's gonna stay there and trust that, you know, he prepared us for it. Is it noble when captains go down with the ship? Is that something that people think about? In Titanic, I mean, I thought highly of that guy.

He didn't go down with the ship, man. He bailed. What are you talking about? Oh, the main guy. The main guy grabbed it. The violins are playing. Billy Zane? I have a child. You had Billy Zane instead of the captain? There was an opening there for Joe Biden.

Hey, who mentioned the economy, man? Folks! Jeremy, what, Saturday Night Live is doing a good job with the political stuff, bringing in a whole bunch of people from the past to do stuff. What is the latest? Because Jessica just mentioned something. I don't know what our plan is here, but

we should obviously not have anyone need to come into work if there's any sort of danger involved, but what are the latest forecasts for South Florida? Because I thought that this was going, that South Florida was going to largely be spared from everything that I have seen that's in the cone and it's one of the few places that's going to be spared because it seems like almost this is a monster storm and it seems like almost the entirety of Florida is in it. in the United States because it is a bit landlocked, but this is going right over Orlando, and this doesn't seem like something that's going to be safe in any way for Orlando. I think the important thing is to follow

the local warnings in your area, and in Miami, obviously the big concern is always flash flooding here, because our infrastructure doesn't really stand up well to any amount of rain, let alone perhaps a tropical storm, like front of rain coming through. So I don't know what that means for us coming to work because this area, downtown Miami floods when it drizzles, but it's something that people should be aware of

and have a plan for if there's a ton of rain and if there's some bad winds. But yes, like you said, Dan, we're not in the exact path of it. So hopefully we are spared from some of the worst stuff. But first you said that the forecasters aren't good, but now we're relying on the forecaster to make a company decision.

And secondly, if you don't mind, I thought that we had a bunch of flooding here. Was it two months ago that half the people couldn't come in because there was major flooding? We're gonna get between five to 10 inches of rain. I don't know what that's going to result in in flooding. And I would say of the forecasters, they have a general idea for a skeleton

of what it is that's going to happen. They have not been inaccurate about what the track of this thing is. What they've been inaccurate about is how quickly it is elevating to speeds because to speeds that are much higher than what they were talking about two and three days ago. The track has remained the same for the last four days.

Can I go through a company policy that I'd like to get by in? And I don't know that I will, but here it is. There are shows that go on. When there's a tragedy or a hurricane, you go to the news. There are people who are putting that on. There are people actually go on. When there's a tragedy or a hurricane, you go to the news, there are people who are putting that on. There are people actually doing side by sides. Jim Cantore is a great example of that.

Essential workers. Essential workers. That's what we are. No, we're not. Yes, we are. And I will say that I, my expectation of Metal Arc is that we're doing shows. If you can't get here, I respect it.

Take a personal day. If you can get get here, I respect it, take a personal day. If you can get here, then the show must go on. It's one little part of the country that is this hurricane, not ideal, but the rest of the country, they want your show there. Is this a rah rah speech? Yes, come to work. You also don't have to drive to and from here.

You're staying here. I'm scared of the elevator breaking down, but I'm gonna be here. You think we're essential workers? I think we actually got some sort of dispensation during the pandemic. Yeah, Mike did, I think, because he was going to the studio,

and you two were, and yeah, Mike was considered, because if he got pulled over, he had something to show them that he was an essential worker. During the pandemic at ESPN, I do believe that we were considered essential workers somehow. I don't know how it is

We got the special dispensation But Mike was pulled over in traffic on the way to the Cleveland earn was able to say us doing us What did that certificate say like what essential thing was he providing? humor distraction entertainment levity levity Jeremy, what do you have for us in terms of updates on this storm? So in the time we've been talking,

it's been elevated to a projected category five. That's not a joke. And the winds are supposed to stretch anywhere from South Georgia to the Bahamas. So we are obviously in that cone of where the winds could be, depending obviously on where the eye of the stormamas. So we are obviously in that cone of where the winds could be, depending obviously on where the eye of the storm breaks. But yeah, that's the spot that we're in now. As an essential worker, my only experience with that during COVID was working at Channel

7, where I just got these numbers from with Phil Farrell, and being told that our sports department that worked in a closet that was showing videos of Trey Young making baskets into his laundry. We were essential workers and had to come in and be around people for the sports department. It was amazing. Oh, you're essential. Jeremy got paid $12 an hour to risk getting COVID and giving it to family. What a nightmare. That was. Welcome. I have been calling Phil Farrow a weather terrorist for 15 years in South

Florida. He plays guitar in his office and it's so calming. That's terrible. Can you rethink that please? A weather terrorist. Wearerist. It's weather. The qualifier is on the front end of that.

It's weather related because he's been a fear monger for a long time, but I fear that he's going to be right this time. let's segue into some lighter stuff. There has been, since David is partaking right here, in what amounts to some cheerleading, and he's got a team that's not interested in any of his cheers, like you're trying to rally the troops and all of them are staring at you with something between indifference and disdain.

Like this is, they're shaking their heads at you, no one is motivated by your speech, let's work, it's worse than your let's have nuance speech from earlier in the show. Nobody, should we be making a decision? I realize that these decisions come to me. Should we be deciding now not to come into work on Wednesday?

You're asking us if you should decide something. But I just, I don't know. I just don't know what's going to happen here in terms of flooding or what kind of danger we're actually in as we speak about this on a Monday. Let's empower that room and say if you can't make it, we understand we won't fire you. But if you can make it and you're on the schedule,

the show will go on. We're not gonna go blank for four hours because of rain I have a question David in terms of the company's liability that maybe you can answer as a lawyer so if you say hey we have a show today if you can make it you should come in with the expectation that if you don't come in there will be some sort of like we're looking down at you a little bit. And then say someone gets stuck in a flash flood, maybe their car gets destroyed, maybe they even get hurt, or God forbid something worse happens.

What is the company's liability in that case? Because I think there's two different approaches here, which is that everyone, it's not gonna be a big deal, everyone come in, just be a little cautious, or the company makes the decision for the employees and decides we're going to be cautious because none of this is worth risk of loss of life.

Are we a play it safe company or a roll the dice company? That's really what she's asking. I mean we know the answer. You're basically, you're a roll the dice but you're willing to start a fund if one of the employees dies. Can I get a heart eight? Oh for the love of God.

All right here's the problem. We're not gonna talk about people dying. Here's the problem with David's cheerleading, other than the fact he brings up employees dying. No, I'm gonna record that and keep that for legal reasons. You're gonna want, cause you want the trust. Cheerleaders these days aren't your old school cheerleaders, David.

You have to show, apparently, a toughness never seen before in the history of sports. We've had a couple of incidents lately. I forget which game this was, but there was one that was very popular last week or the week before, where there was this one cheerleader doing back flips, and we have the video running now. It was before an Auburn game.

The cheerleader doing back flips and just takes out, is that an Oklahoma player? Absolutely takes out an Oklahoma player. Probably never been tackled that hard in his life, right? And so I'm like, all right, just a crazy coincidence, somebody's doing backflips, don't really know what's going on. I think that cheerleader did that on purpose.

This past week, I'm telling you, just to show off her toughness, this past weekend, there was a Texas Tech, I believe it was Texas Tech in Arizona again. And one of the players who came, I don't know, didn't have the ball, came off the field absolutely trucked, absolutely trucked a male cheerleader who had one of those big megaphones in his hand.

As they do, look at that, yes, as they do. His knee got caught up underneath, it was just ugly. This cheerleader, hilarious face as soon as he goes down, looks at the crowd, makes sure this player is okay, and then goes off to celebrate his victory. It was just ugly. This cheerleader, hilarious face as soon as he goes down, looks at the crowd, makes sure this player is okay, and then goes off to celebrate his toughness. Oh my goodness, this guy was amazing. It's a Texas Tech cheerleader, and never more,

never before has somebody been prepared for that moment more than this guy, because he absolutely made a viral moment out of a spot where he could have taken every ligament out of his neck. Izzy, both of those videos are breathtaking because in both instances, the football player is absolutely taking the worst of the physical collision by miles in both instances.

The cheerleader is largely fine and in the second one jubilant and the football player is limping away from the collision in obvious pain and disrepair. Both of those. The first one's amazing though, because you've got- Quick correction on that one.

It might've been a male cheerleader. The Oklahoma team is running out of the locker room and it's, I don't know, 75 Sooners are running out from the locker room and this is always amazing, the cheerleader is doing about 10 straight back flips and runs straight into the player in a way that knocks the player down and leaves him in disrepair. The best part for me of this video is that

there's a few players that see the flipping cheerleader and they're like oh let's get out of the way and then just one guy that doesn't see him just jogging and just gets cleared out. You wouldn't expect the red seat to part when you're walking on the outside as the player was you don't expect that flipping cheerleader to make it all the way to you. Are we working Wednesday? Hey folks it's Mike.

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