The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The House Was a Different Color

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:58 Cuervo Cuervo The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo, Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly. Cuervo dot com. Please drink responsibly. Quervo. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Haslow is totally fitting in around here in that I asked him to have prepared for this segment, the second of the shirts from his closet, and he has forgotten he doesn't have
Starting point is 00:01:24 the shirt on him. I absolutely do. Oh you do? Okay, okay, it's hidden, it's well hidden. Now I'm not fitting in because I'm doing my job. Okay, you have it somewhere on you, I just see two shirts discarded behind you, okay? Now he's pointing to his crotch.
Starting point is 00:01:39 My bad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Do you think he lost it between when he got here and now? Like a ticket? I was accusing him of something that I am capable of doing. There are a number of things worth talking about right now, because I want a means assessment on what we're going to do. What happened? Oh my god, we're watching Chinama right now.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Absolute Chinama on General Hospital. Stephen A. Stephen A, hit man. Just shot somebody in a hospital bed bricks back What do you want to talk about that the show we're doing live Guarantee the show we're doing love not as good as that one Yeah, I wish we did that one at Metal Art. Yeah I wish that one was on air instead of in private. I wish that's what we were paying you guys for.
Starting point is 00:02:31 He shot a dude in a hospital bed and shot the nurse too. Oh my god with a silencer. And then made the phone call. How do you know he has a silencer? It's on mute. Oh wow. Look at the gun. Look at the gun. Oh wow you can see the sil call. How do you know he has a silencer? It's on mute. Oh wow. Look at the gun, look at the gun. Oh wow, you can see the silencer.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I stand corrected. In Stephen A's defense, the nurse pulled a gun on him first. What you say? So Zazzo's second shirt? No, I was about to talk about Jamal Murray, but thank you for ever being helpful Wild Willy Wednesday to try and get me back to the- I haven't derailed anything today.
Starting point is 00:03:04 No? I've been your, your, your- You've divorced, you started by divorcing my parents, back. I haven't derailed anything today. No? I've been your... You've divorced... You started by divorcing my parents, Billy. I didn't divorce your parents. That was the opening bidding you did. Falsehoods? No.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's how it happened. I said if... No. I said if you're caught in the middle of a lover's quarrel and the lover's quarrel is your family and the Heat, then what do you do? Because the Heat will be responsible possibly for your parents' divorce. This is the problem that I generally have. It's that I believe there is basketball worth talking about from last night that I'd like
Starting point is 00:03:31 to talk about and not just Giannis leaving because I do want to assess the legacy of Jamal Murray who is not somebody who often scores 40 points a game except when you really need it in the playoffs and out of nowhere last night he's reminding Kawhi Leonard and James Harden of some things that I was caught off guard by even though I've seen this person be this kind of good in the playoffs but I get forgetful and so I want to do some legacy talk on Jamal Murray and I also want to get to Jeremy meeting Shakira and Jeremy wants to talk about the rehearsal But the problem I have is that Billy needed gas yesterday and didn't have his wallet now that was this morning That's why that's why I was a little tardy for the party as I left the house
Starting point is 00:04:17 I stopped at the gas station and I I didn't have my wallet So I had to head back home to go get the wallet and then go back, it was Westchester, come on, what do you think that these are like fancy gas pumps? I just- No, I've seen them with the Apple Pay stuff from Westchester. No, no, I don't, no, Apple Pay, not for me.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Apple Pay's fine when it has my like things saved and I can, you know, order my McDonald's, I hit Apple Pay, whatever. When I have to go start and like tap my, first of all, last thing I'm gonna tap with my phone is a dirty gas pump, okay? I'm not gonna go touch a dirty gas pump with my phone that then is gonna go and lay on my face.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That's not gonna happen. And this whole tapping situation, I love technology, I love the advances of technology. Zaz, I feel like you might be with me on some of this stuff. At a certain point, we've advanced far enough. Like, we're going too far on some of these things. When I just am close enough to something and it takes money out of my account
Starting point is 00:05:12 and I didn't have to do anything other than my device was close enough to the device that steals the digital money for me. Why do I look like someone who doesn't appreciate convenience? No, you're on, come on, you have an 80 year old shirt in your hand, you have two old shirts on your lap. Are you not with me on this? I'm doing my job.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Are you not with me on this? You like the idea of someone just going up to you and tapping your phone and then you lose money? Yeah, I'm good with it, man. I'm not losing money. I'm using money. No, you're losing it. Here's the thing, unless you're there watching all the time, I'm telling you someone's going up there. I've seen these scams, like on the parking thing? That does worry me a little bit. Okay, welcome to the party, friends. Go on. All right, but I don't have cash on me, so it's nothing I can do about it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 What do you mean? I have to hope that there's not like a scam going on. No, there's always a scam going. That's the thing. There's always a scam going. That worries me a little bit, a little bit. Haven't you seen like the parking things? They had to take the QR codes off of the parking signs here
Starting point is 00:06:01 because people were putting their own fake QR codes on the parking signs where you would go, you'd go on the QR code and they had a fake website and you'd just give them $5, $8, whatever it is and they'd have your credit card information. You didn't actually pay for parking. You paid a stranger. I gotta be honest, I think you're a little too involved.
Starting point is 00:06:21 What do you mean? Like there's so many things, like you're worried about too many things. What do you mean? How so? I think that's what I mean, I just said what I mean. I'm not, what do you mean? Like there's so many things, like you're worried about too many things. What do you mean? How so? That's what I mean, I just said what I mean. I'm not worried. What do you mean? That's what I mean. What am I too worried about?
Starting point is 00:06:31 What should I be worried about? There's all these things going on with you. You don't want to do this, you don't want to do this. You're too involved. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no They come after me and like I need to know I can't trust no one. There's one person I can trust It's me, you know, so if someone's saying especially a stranger trust me on this. No, thank you. I've been burned too many times I know not to trust anyone around here can only trust me and even me. I'm a slippery one Dog you did hit him with a dog because you're not used to somebody coming at you as aggressively as Zaz did. No, because he says dog so I was trying to get him on my side. I like the tension you two have over the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We don't have tension. I feel like we're close. Are we not close? I feel like we're getting to know each other. Yeah, we're getting to know each other. I'm alright with this right now. I'm alright with it. I mean, I started interviewing seven, nine, twenty years ago when you were there. But if we're just getting to know each other, that's fine. I'm not going to rush this relationship. It's at your pace, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Put it on the poll at Levitard Show, is there always a scam going on? And also, I'm gonna tell you that I spent that entire Michael Jackson show at the art center the other day with my wife in my ears saying, that guy you just paid because he had an orange security vest, that is not somebody who works in parking.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Like that's a guy who now might have the keys to our car and that is not a valet that's somebody who just you trusted because that person was wearing an orange vest and that orange vest he could have gotten from a construction site it was dark out there that was not a parking situation you just gave somebody $20 to park nearby that was not you're gonna either get towed or the car is gonna get stolen something about us people We love people in uniform somebody's got a vest on somebody's got a hat on that says something you're in charge, buddy What do you want me to do? You want me to pull the car around sure and he's like I just found this in the good
Starting point is 00:08:13 Well, I don't care I feel like those that that's like the old-school Miami Arena days where you gave a guy five bucks to watch your car during The two gods came out one time and there were two crack heads Smoking crack in both front seats of his car when he came out from the Miami Arena. I parked in someone's carport the other day at a Marlins game. Cause I was going to park and I looked at the curb,
Starting point is 00:08:35 they're like, you're gonna have to go up this little ramp and the ramp was four little blocks of wood that they put in front of the curb. And I was like, you want me to back in here? Because like my car's a little low to the ground. I don't want to lose my bumper parking in your front yard. I'm paying you $10 instead of 30 at the garage, but I don't wanna lose my bumper here.
Starting point is 00:08:52 This is the only place in South Florida that we have the spirit of the Orange Bowl still around the parking situation where it's no blocky, no parky. It's just you're parking and someone's driving. It is parky, no blocky. Well, sometimes there is blocky and you gotta leave your keys
Starting point is 00:09:05 and those are the houses I say, I'm good, thanks, I'm gonna go find another house. Well I've never experienced that. Sometimes they ask you, like you can leave your keys and then we'll move the car and I'm like, I'm okay. Just trust them, I'm good here. You know where they live.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I know where they are pretending to live. I don't know that they actually live there. I haven't seen them go in and out of the house and I don't know that my car will be there when I get back. I've been in situations where I go and I park, and I come back and the house is a different color. And I just assume someone left their keys there, and that car is gone.
Starting point is 00:09:33 He's just making fun of me. It's happened. That's not true. No. You guys should not laugh with him. He's right about that. He's right about that though, Dan. No, no, listen to me.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I'm all for your yes and, the moment he says he went in and out, no. Dan, when we were at the Super Bowl just this past year, we went in and it was clear glass windows. We came out the next day, when we went out clear glass windows, when we came back, that whole thing was wrapped and it looked like a giant beer can.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Didn't even look like the hotel anymore. That's how quickly they could change appearances now. That's why you can't trust people and things. Not even buildings. You're too involved. No. You're too loosey goosey, if I'm going to be honest with you. Oh, Joe Cool's ass over here just walking around
Starting point is 00:10:16 trusting the world. Must be nice. Must be nice to walk around here and just trust everyone and everything. How's it change colors? Okay, look, I'm going gonna attack you on two fronts here and I'm only okay with about 74% of Wild Willie Wednesday so far. My father, my father earlier in the show with journalistic responsibilities reported that Mickey Harrison left the arena on Sunday wearing a wig, sunglasses, and a
Starting point is 00:10:43 mustache because he was so embarrassed by the heat performance. The Hall of Famer. And now you have said on air, and you were supported by these two, Tony and Amin, saying yes, this is delightful to be next to you, as you claimed his truth, that you went to a game,
Starting point is 00:10:58 parked your car. At a house. Yes, and as you were at the game, the front of the house was repainted a different color. I don't know how they did it. You could smell the paint. And I didn't say I smelled the paint. They didn't do it, it's why.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I don't believe your story. I didn't say that I smelled the paint. I didn't say it was painted. I smelled the bullshit. I said I left, I came back, different color. That's not true. And I didn't leave my car, I didn't leave my keys to the house that day.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I said, you know what, if it gets blocked, I'll deal with it when I get back. I'm not leaving my keys here. And I'm glad I didn't, because guess what? When I left, I could go right out. A car was there that was moved. Different color. You're claiming that a scam was so involved
Starting point is 00:11:33 that people painted their house to steal your car filled with your trinkets of Marlin stuff from 1990. I don't know how or why they were trying to do what or how they were doing. I'm just saying I didn't get got. And it's because I was vigilant. I got got because that story didn't happen. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Nobody painted their house to steal your car. I didn't say they painted the house. I said it was one color when I was there, a different color when I got back. I don't know what happened. Games are long, three hours. They were shorter last year. This year they seem to be getting long again,
Starting point is 00:12:01 if I'm gonna be honest with you. Baseball was fixed and I don't know what they did, but someone was tinkering with something where the length of seem to be getting long again, if we're gonna be honest with you. Baseball was fixed, and I don't know what they did, but someone was tinkering with something where the length of these games is getting long again. How did you feel about your Cy Young winner starting to allow 15 runs to the Dodgers last time? Not surprised at all. I told you guys just yesterday,
Starting point is 00:12:15 and no one wanted to listen to me, and everyone started scoffing at me when I told you. Dodgers aren't fun to watch, they score 15 runs every day. What happened last night? 15 to two, they beat the Marlins. Guess who didn't stay up until one in the morning to watch that? Me.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I knew exactly what was gonna happen. And I told you. And then Jeremy and all these mouthpieces out here are telling, oh, it's not gonna happen. This is not the situation here. I'm happily married. That's not gonna, the Dodgers are, they're not that exciting.
Starting point is 00:12:37 They're not gonna score that many runs. And sure enough, same night, 15 runs. Kike Hernandez is on in the last inning, pitching with a pitcher's helmet. What is this? Youth league softball? Pitcher's helmet? Games are lasting one minute longer this year
Starting point is 00:12:49 than last year. Told you, see, I was right, thank you. You were also right earlier in the show when you were talking about breaking Belichick news as hard knocks falls apart because we now see that there's going to be a really interesting tension of what happens when your coach is 50 years older than his girlfriend and you keep taking whatever the publicity judgments are on
Starting point is 00:13:16 Hey coach your relationship is something that has a lot of people curious so much so that CBS Sunday morning a lot of people curious so much so that CBS Sunday morning has aired an interview that will now make Belichick even more gun-shy about interviews than he ever was because he never made these mistakes when he was coach of the Patriots where you get into the bad optics of anything and it is a little startling to see his relationship be the thing that has become the curiosity. This newsman on CBS Sunday morning though, was so maximum television newsman that I was getting distracted and annoyed by how cheesy his broadcaster voice questions were.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And you tell me Zaslow, if you can hear the cheesy broadcaster-y gotcha of Belichick, you're cornered here. You've got a relationship with a woman who's 50 years younger than you, and I'm a professional broadcaster who's here to trap you in a corner. Is that your little lady over there in the corner? I'm going to trap the both of you. You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick. The now 73-year-old former NFL coach wasn't interested in gloating about his many achievements.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Football is everything for Belichick. You're reading. That's cheating. And you trap the old man. When young Billy went looking for a coaching job of his own though, dad had some advice. The result is not a tell all, but what you might call a tell some.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Nobody talks that way. Jeremy does. Jeremy was just whispering to me, is that how you hear me? And I'm like, yes. He's like, is that why you hate me? I was silent after that. The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson. His creative muse. Oh come on that was wait a minute that was soaked that was not objective journalism there those last three words
Starting point is 00:15:19 that was not objective. His creative muse. I hear your skepticism. His creative muse. There was a question mark in there. His creative muse. You did that so many times. You read that so many times. He's like, let me do that one again. One more.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Let me do it. His creative muse. There's like a real condescension dripping off of that part. His creative muse. Like he did it a couple of takes and it sounded too enthusiastic, said no no more condescension. His creative muse. Wink wink audience I'm with you, she's too young right?
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Starting point is 00:19:20 The Knicks have not, their fans have not been able to watch a closeout playoff series game this century and detroit goes in there last night and at the end brunson is hurt and heart is hurt and you know that fan base is waiting to turn on that team it's like it's like last year all over again it's like yeah they should win this series easily and then you mess around you don't quite win one and now we're in a position where there's gonna be a game six and Hart and Brunson being hurt is not good. You say, if Brunson's hurt, you're like, well, that's a clutch score, whatever,
Starting point is 00:19:55 but Carl Anthony Towns has played reasonably well in this series. If Hart's hurt, you're like, shit, that's the heart and soul right there. I mean, the thing that happened in the last five minutes of oh wait, calamity can be around the corner here is Brunson is far and away the most clutch of clutchy in the fourth quarter when his team needs winning.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That's empirical that he has done more scoring than Jokic in the fourth quarter and Jokic has played a bunch more playoff games than Brunson. He scores like crazy in the fourth quarter and him being out is a problem for them because they're waiting to mistrust Kat. They're waiting. I would say this. It is problematic.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I wouldn't say it's a problem. I think him and Hart being out, that's a problem. That's a problem, right? That's a problem Hart presents so many matchup problems because he plays like a big but he's a guard He brings the ball up. He can shoot threes or whatever So him being kind of like this jack-of-all-trades thing really is something that fuels the Knicks and then he's so scrappy He's he's he is really an energy source for that team The two of them to basically your offensive leader and your defensive leader, to both be compromised, that's an issue.
Starting point is 00:21:08 The other thing is Detroit young team, confidence is swelling now, right? This is the game that we said they couldn't win because they're young and they haven't been there before. But down the stretch, Cade Cunningham makes all the great plays, including that pass. You see that pass? He's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Dude, it was incredible. And there's a point where you see, oh no, they're not scared at all. Duren was active on the glass, Johnny on the spot with all the finishes around the basket, and then you got the vets like Beasley and Harris, they're gonna make timely shots. Detroit is in a position now where it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:41 I think we can win this series. Well, and we just said that the Knicks haven't won, haven't closed out a series at home since 1999. The Detroit Pistons have not won a home playoff game since 2008, all right? But I'm not surprised that Detroit won that game last night. I am surprised that they won that game that was that close with four, five minutes left,
Starting point is 00:22:04 and they made all the plays down the stretch. I mean Cunningham who struggled for the most part had 13 points in the final eight minutes of the game and they're getting all the stops and they're making all the big plays. It was like a super grown up moment for that team. Zazz that's the game we said they couldn't win. Like that kind of game. We didn't say they couldn't win games. We said oh but like those close games. That scenario. That scenario. That's the one where they couldn't win games we said all but like those call that scenario that scenario that's the one where they
Starting point is 00:22:25 couldn't win and it's funny because cutting hand the other night remember had the had the shot he wanted and missed it and they lose that game with the tim hardwick alnop al whatever watching him come back in almost like process that say ok the same things not going to happen again that was amazing to amin's point though heart and brunson left the game and while i can give detroit credit for that's where it happened like as soon as they left off the court i was waiting for debba though to call the time out to get the stoppage to get
Starting point is 00:22:53 the both of them back in the game because that's where it spread that what that's where lost but when you guys mentioned cade cunningham okay i don't know did he get to fifty and i'm asking when they won early during the regular season at MSG And he won the game late Kate Cunningham is very interested in being a star and this is exactly how you do it This is the team you do it against and he already did it once this season in Madison Square Garden where he really liked the idea Of doing it in Madison Square Garden if you take this series from the Knicks and you break New York's heart And you do it in a game seven and you do it in a game 7
Starting point is 00:23:25 And you do it in a game 7 in New York when they can't close out a series this century there Cade Cunningham will on the spot become someone who joins a conversation that is where all of these good players are With one series he will do it. He will enter the stardom that he wishes to have So he had a 36- point game during the regular season, but Dan, this is why I call the playoffs an infomercial. It's the greatest infomercial of them all, because there are people who do it night in, night out, and literally the basketball watching public doesn't know,
Starting point is 00:23:54 because they don't watch Detroit, or because when they watch Detroit, nothing happened, whatever. And then you get on the stage, and this is where you announce yourself. It's the same thing that happened Tyrese Halliburton last year. He did it a little bit in the in-season
Starting point is 00:24:05 tournament and then when he got, by the time he got to the playoffs, that's where it got solidified against the Knicks and then in the conference finals against the Celtics. This is when you do Anthony Edwards, four or five years ago, right, when we were like the Wolves are just a bunch of screw-ups and Anthony Edwards was like, oh no, I can take control.
Starting point is 00:24:22 That's where these people ascend and so he's doing that asc century right now I don't even think he needs to win the series at this point. I think he's put himself on the map I'm one of those guys I heard Kendrick Perkins talk about this So if I'm honest, I would want to go to Detroit and play with Kate Cunningham and like I don't think that's gonna happen But I think that says volumes that now Kate Cunningham is a guy mentioned that people want to go play with This is how it starts. I Was skeptical at the beginning of the Kate Cunningham experience because I had seen a lot of players with high usage rates
Starting point is 00:24:58 Get viewed better than they are bridges suffering from this right now in New York God Almighty the Knix fan hates bridges Hey, like he's getting all of it And I keep saying to my friends who are nix fans Do you guys understand how hard it is to be the third of the usage rates in that sport like it bosh and love Were able to do it and and drew holiday can do it But it's it's what are you shaking your hands about to be fair Bosch in love walked in the door top five picks here's your franchise when everything is going
Starting point is 00:25:29 through you you're scoring the points you're being all-stars you're being all these accolades and then they had to go beat the third of the usage rates Mikkel Bridges was a middle of the first round pick who was a really good role player with Phoenix and then got traded to a Brooklyn team for Kevin Durant so they didn't have anything. So then it's like, okay, McElbrige will give you a taste of the limelight. And he was great that half season. And then the next season we realized, oh yeah, he's not really suited to be a high usage player.
Starting point is 00:25:58 If anything, this is a return to what should be a familiar environment for him being just a guy. He doesn't want to be it anymore though. I don't know. I don't know if he can be the other one though. Do you think of what the Knicks could, they gave up five unprotected for McAlbert. What could they have gotten for that?
Starting point is 00:26:14 But I mean, when you give that much up for him, you announce on the spot, we think of you that way. Dan, this is the point that I made at the time, because everyone was like, well, it's the power of friendship. Oh, they're gonna hold the buddies from filling all the play together. Who would do that? The reality is this thing, this ecosystem,
Starting point is 00:26:34 this trade marketplace, it has meaning and it has value. And so when you send, even if he's this hidden gem that no one is picking up on, no one else would ever give up five first round picks. But let's just assume that Knicks had the foresight. They're like no actually he might be the best player in the league You guys just don't know it yet his that his market value was not that you don't overpay on that because a What if you're wrong, but B it reduces your ability to do other things the reason why the Knicks can't improve their roster anymore Now is because they don't have Bix you don't think it with the Ciannis issue right now
Starting point is 00:27:09 They would have loved to have some of those first-round picks back Well the thing about Leon Rose and the Knicks architecture that I find Fascinating right now as they reach I believe a real pressure point I mean they built something that now has expectations when they haven't closed out the home playoff game for their customers this century and when you give that fan base two years allowed it comes with expectations that if it loses in the first round
Starting point is 00:27:36 to do it to the detroit pistons the level of anger that i'm already hearing from the new york fan toward debito toward everybody who's not brunson ever everybody was not brunson heart is getting crushed because the expectations on this team are higher than they've been in a century the first guy on the chopping block is the butcher unfortunately that he's the one with if it if it goes down the first person is getting blamed and my blame that means already happening though it's all i'm here. I'm hearing and watching I'm soaking in these next broadcasts as they're happening and they're just Yelling at Thibodeau with an anger that suggests they don't think he can do this job and I'm like I kind of trust that coach
Starting point is 00:28:17 Dan this is what we're talking about with David, right? It's like it does a guy do a good job or not, right? And then if things don't go the way we expect it to, the way we plan it to, the way we want it to, are we signing appropriate blame? Meaning, are we losing because Tom Thibodeau is making strategic decisions that are putting us in a bad spot?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Now some would argue, hey, overplaying your guys during the regular season, that is a strategic decision. Jalen Brunson's ankle rolling it uh... despite not stepping on anyone's for just him moving right part of that is because it's an ankle that's been injured before and when you roll your ankle you are infinitely more uh... susceptible to further injury to it unless it heals you get the proper rest but we know it didn't get the proper rest
Starting point is 00:29:03 i would argue that was a tips walk that's the 65 game rules fault right because we have the 65 game rule he wouldn't have to rush back in order to play those games to make sure that he qualified but neither here nor there the reality is if the Knicks lose in the first round I don't think Tom Thibodeau survives it's and it's a shame it's the same thing that happened to Michael Malone it's same thing that happened to Taylor Jenkins these These are guys who have done phenomenal jobs, all of them in cities where they had struggled, right? These guys came in and said,
Starting point is 00:29:30 I know you're looking at decades of being awful, I will fix it, I will reverse it, I will change the culture here. They all did that, and the thanks that they got was get the hell out of here. I mean, they've been a nothing franchise for decades, and now year after year after year with Tibbido as the coach They're they're in the mix and like they can get rid of them if they don't know but you have you have to understand
Starting point is 00:29:52 The way this was built for loud New York fan is we're gonna boy break up this team that you love and we're gonna give You a threesome and bridges is gonna be part of it to challenge the Celtics We're one we're gonna what we're gonna make trades that are when right now we think we can beat the celtics right now that's an architectural flaw because you're not as good as they are and you're not as good as cleveland and you can count on mitchell robinson's hands the way you once counted counted on nora's noel's
Starting point is 00:30:19 and he will clean up around the basket but you're not as good as those teams and this season's gonna end in failure but if it ends in failure in the first round. Being up three one. And game seven at home. Like, I mean, obviously we're putting the cart before the horse, there still has to be a game six. Oh, I'm just saying that's what the pressure is now on a hurt franchise that limps into these games
Starting point is 00:30:37 with a fan base that's waiting to question them. That's not the worst part. The worst part is let's assume they get out of this series, right, alive. The Celtics are done, they're resting. Drew Holliday's resting that hamstring, Jalen Brown's resting that quad. Those guys are waiting and they already know,
Starting point is 00:30:54 oh we kick your ass every time we play. Now you're gonna give us like three, four days of just chilling and watching you play and struggle and oh, they don't like it when this happens. Oh, this is what happens, we get the ball out of Brunson over here we trap them over here like they're just game planning and getting smarter every single day while you're over here trying to struggle to survive is there any more general hospital Stephen A Smith he's reporting on first take right now that the NBA should
Starting point is 00:31:18 punish Tyrese Halliburton's father for the altercation with Giannis Antetokounmpo quote I think that this should go down as one of the most embarrassing moments of his life. He should be ashamed of himself. The father? Or Yannis? Or Yannis, yeah. The father, the father. I don't know, I didn't think it was embarrassing for him.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Stood on business. Stood on business, according to Tony. Zaz, you know Tyrese Halliburton, who his cousin is? No. Eddie Jones. How about that? Oh, okay. Got an Eddie Jones shirt there somewhere hidden?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Do you wanna see my shirt? I do wanna see your shirt. This is the second shirt from the Zaslow Mansion, the shirt that his wife would like him to throw out. I asked Jonathan Zaslow to bring the three of his shirts from the closet that would show his wife's disapproval. The most, the second shirt is. I remember that one.
Starting point is 00:32:06 A Chris Bosh retirement jersey from 2019, retirement shirt. You remember that one. You predicted a, what was the one you predicted would make an appr? The white W, I don't think we're gonna have the white W, but a white W would be great. I gotta say, I'm really disappointed. Zazz, you brought us two other three shirts so far,
Starting point is 00:32:23 our post big three. Thank you. Post, I mean. I don't wanna say it. Post Hassan Whiteside two out of three shirts so far. Our post big three. Thank you. Post Hassan Whiteside really. I told you though, we've given so many to Goodwill over the years man. You are disappointing so far. The way you're selling it is that these are like super old and ratty and they show how much of a lifelong fan Zazz is and we're going back all the way back to 2016, the oldest so number one is the coup de grace what I believe that says was done I believe that's what says was done is he has reduced expectations to a point now with number three and number two that number one is gonna really blow our nipples off I just want to say right now I have a polo shirt from when I worked for the
Starting point is 00:33:01 Hawks at my house right now right right? That's 1999, maybe 2000. You're bringing me 2019? The pandemic was right around the corner. What are you doing? This isn't rare. That's history right there, yeah. Zaslow's embarrassing himself so far. Is that even a Chris,
Starting point is 00:33:17 is a Chris Bosh years post-retirement Chris Bosh shirt. That shirt is practically new compared to some of the rags that these guys are putting as trappos on mops in their house. I'm wearing a shirt from Pitt that someone sent me that I'm pretty sure is older than 2019. This shirt right here, this is way older than 2019. Yeah, well you should be embarrassed then.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You guys, you got brand new shirts? Get some new clothes. I mean, I sleep in these. Now you're lashing out. I'm not going out in public like you it looks brand new It does it does not look brand new His wife wants to get rid of it because the Chris and the Bosch those are not those are supposed to be all white letters They're black and white because the white has been washed through because I can barely read what it says as low as it
Starting point is 00:34:03 Zaslow is wearing this shirt too much is the problem his wife doesn't like it feel it's comfortable because it's too comfortable it's another comfortable shirt yes yeah but then this might be a proximity thing because to the viewers on screen and from us over here it looks very white I can read it very clearly right now he brought it because the the white in the letters had actually it has rubbed off from the washings. It has been made clear that that shirt has been washed too much.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I have no expectations for number one, I'm gonna be honest with you so far. That's my move right there. If it's not a white hand shirt, that's way too big. If it doesn't say Cycley on it, get out of here. Let's get right to it, because so far, the buildup, if it doesn't say Cycley, if this is. It's white. It's white. All right, hold on. They gotta retire that white hot, The build up, if it doesn't say cycle, if this is...
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's white, it's white. We have faded white. Hold on, everyone. They gotta retire that white hot, if we're gonna be honest, right? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, Zazzle, they gotta retire that white hot every playoff.
Starting point is 00:34:53 We're embarrassing ourselves at this point in time. Every time it's white hot, you knew you were gonna get destroyed in this playoff. I think you play it by ear, you say, this is gonna be a run, we do white hot. This one, we knew. You can't do white hot today. Before you reveal the shirt, please, from the room,
Starting point is 00:35:08 what are some guesses here that will meet your expectations? Just because I wanna put the pressure here on Zazzle and already you guys are going back to Ronnie Cycley. You want like a double double from 1990. Nine years old. I think that's unreasonable to do that, but if it's pre-LeBBron that will meet with your approval I don't think this will be pre LeBron. I don't I think this is gonna be like LeBron's second year for the team when LeBron got here
Starting point is 00:35:35 Come on you and I we're getting to know each other better. We feel like we got a good thing going here I mean you're a little too involved just calling. I see it Let's take it down a notch a little too involved. Just calling like I see it. Let's take it down a notch. A little too involved with what? With everything. With Wild Willy Wednesdays? No, just everything. He's got so much going on.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Calm down. You're my turf, friend. No, I understand. He get him with a friend and his own dog. Things are escalating with Billy Gill. Things are escalating around here. Let's see this shirt. right here we go it is 2016 white hot heat playoffs gotta have that heart it is out of here man get out of here that is right those
Starting point is 00:36:18 are faded it is ready but still 2000. It is very ratty. This is the level of quality that we were expecting out of all three shirts. This one is actually faded, not just like the other one. But this right here, he's getting booed. He's getting booed because he gave us three shirts that all happened like heart in the Goran Dragic era. You gave us Hassan Whiteside Goran Dragic level shirts.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Zazlo, I'm gonna need you to go back through your closet and look through some more things and bring more things for your next appearance. Look at this, look at this here. Heart. Yes, it does have a great deal of heart. The whole room is disappointed by your shirt. I was expecting like a Easter conference finals 2004.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah. Something. Zaz, I have never in my life ever rooted for the Atlanta Hawks one time. And I tell you, I have a trash bag full of gear that puts all of that to shame. I'm going to put this to shame tomorrow. Tomorrow, I will show you three raggedy shirts. I'm going to go to Goodwill this afternoon
Starting point is 00:37:19 and get my shirts back. You know what? I mean, when you fly back next week, or whenever it is you're coming back, I want you to bring back three of your rty of shirts. I like us all to take Now unfortunately, I've recently cleaned out a bunch of stuff. Although I think you guys I have you're not a giveaway guy though Listen, yeah, I've done it police. No I got a list here Dan
Starting point is 00:37:43 What is the top five What do you have? Things you don't do with Dan. Okay, let's see here I like that and I also need to get to the boost mobile line. So please hurry up So OOLI is Dan giving away his own stuff that doesn't OLI don't let Dan pay for parking OLI criticize Pat Riley or Mickey Harrison Don't let Dan pay for parking. Yep. OLI. Criticize Pat Riley or Mickey Harrison.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Don't let Dan pay for parking? Why can't I pay for parking? You pay a guy who's just wearing a vest who's not parking at the gym. Alright, number five. Play a long video about chicken. In the middle of the show. There's two videos there. That's number four. There was two videos there. That's number four.
Starting point is 00:38:26 That was the second video. It was the second three minute video. Number four. Charge Dan but tell him no cash. Infuriating. Un-American. Number three. I want to set fire. I'm going to get arrested for arson. One of these places
Starting point is 00:38:44 that refuses to take my cash. Number three, accidentally talk at the same time as someone standing behind you. Number two, give him something. And the number one thing you don't do with Dan Levitard, tell him a secret. I thought I'd buy myself something with transparency. Had a friend laugh at me about that the other day. Hey you can't keep a secret. Well you tell everybody
Starting point is 00:39:16 the truth, you're honest all the time. No, it buys you nothing. It buys you nothing at all. That's not transparency when you tell secrets. It is weird considering what your like profession was. No people know about it. Like you're a journalist, you had sources, but like if we tell you anything you tell everyone everything. But that's because when he's reporting he's able to put out that information like right away. So he's keeping the secret but he's used to within a week it's out of his head.
Starting point is 00:39:40 He doesn't have to keep the secret anymore. I love the psychology of this. It's like Dan's whole like adult life. He's been told secrets that he's been allowed to keep the secret anymore. I love the psychology of this, it's like Dan's whole adult life. He's been told secrets that he's been allowed to tell everybody else in print and everyone's always applauded him and said, hey what a great job Dan, you're so good at it. So Dan is now psychologically trained to believe that giving secrets out is a good thing. So if you tell him a secret he's like, I want that feeling again, if everyone's patting me on the back, hey here's the secret that Amin just told me.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Or it's all content. But we're not coming to you for content mining. We're coming to you with personal, private conversations that then you turn into content. That would be like Greg Cody writing an article about you getting engaged. That would be crazy to take something so personal, so private, and turn it to cheapen it
Starting point is 00:40:24 by turning it into content. Like the only, who would do that? Only someone who trained under someone else who does that sort of thing. Someone who looked up to a mentor perhaps. Who does that kind of thing. That kind of thing. I'm disappointed that Zazzlow's not in here with Cody,
Starting point is 00:40:40 his nemesis. You realize Cody's avoiding him, right? He'll be in here tomorrow, will you? I'm not. You realize Cody's avoiding him, right? He'll be in here tomorrow, will you? I'm not here tomorrow. Cody's avoiding him. We have the chance to have real, genuine sparks between people. I was telling them back here that I wanna ask my dad
Starting point is 00:40:55 tomorrow about the Halliburton dad thing, because my dad, never obviously with kids, but when I was playing sports growing up, other parents, coaches, officials, my dad, I've seen that type of like almost face to face with my dad. This is true, this is an absolutely true story I'm about to tell you. I still remember it from my childhood
Starting point is 00:41:16 because it involves the funny name Wayne Ucina, who got his head handed to him by my father. And Wayne Ucina wore the coaching shorts and was a big, big man. While my mom was in the stands talking to another woman about how my father had been just softened by coaching his sons and was a more gentle man, someone went after my brother's knees,
Starting point is 00:41:39 and while my mother was saying this, my father had pinned Wayne Ucina on the floor and was beating the holy shit out of him. I'm sorry, Wayne. And Poppy, standing on business. I'm sorry, he was standing on business.

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