The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Mascot Mt. Rushmore

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

The Braves vs Phillies series has grown the legend of Bryce Harper - who is now a Philly guy. Plus, who belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of mascots. Also, Mike Schur joins the show to bring back 'Stat Of The Day', dunk on Mike Ryan about Miami and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffeine's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. Staying with baseball for just one more minute as board Lucy and board Jessica and kind of board Mike yawning right in my face Say baseball is not interesting. I will Submit to you that what happened last night that they're trying to lure you in with is the storyline of Bryce Harper Who's just 30 years old? He wasn't actually that good this season power numbers But Philadelphia gives him a ton of money. Philadelphia cares about baseball. And he fancies himself a Philadelphia guy says he likes listening to WIP on the way to the ballpark. Like he's a young man who's

trying to change the swagger of the sport. And they are playing in Atlanta, the 1927 Yankees of offense. Like this is a historically great Atlanta Braves team. And last night, after innocently, I thought, I didn't think it was much of a controversy. Do you realize what it is that Bryce Harper is reacting to when he's staring down? Atlanta's shortstop, RCF? Is it true? They're playing like the 1927 Yankees.

They're offends because I guarantee you I can name more 1927 Yankees than Braves. Okay, but it's because you haven't been paying attention. I got a Kuni Matata and I got Matt Olson. Excellent work by you. We can go through their line of if you like. They have a lot of players that you would like. They are the 1927. How's Fercal doing Yankees, he's not with them anymore. But you saw what happened at second base, right?

It was a big deal that Bryce Harper stared. I saw that on Twitter, that Bryce Harper stared back at a player. Yes, do you know what that player did to offend Bryce Harper? No. At the end of the previous game, when Bryce Harper ran around second base and got doubled off to end the game. That player had the audacity in the locker room to say. And wait a heart.

A heart. A camper is caught at a boy Harper in a second language. Oh, okay. He's he's interviewed in a second language. I wasn't quite sure on what Samson and Adnan were saying. I just know that he took exception and made a personal. At a boy Harper was the great insult that now gets stared down and WIP has a hero

paid $300 million because Bryce Harper is a man of the people and he's taking down the braves in a huge spot with two home runs. But Bryce Harper has become a man of the people. In Philadelphia. That's crazy. Because they love what kind of swagger he has. And he's winning and he's hitting two home runs in a game when they hit six home runs.

Credit to him because he's been the same dude since he entered the league. He is authentically him. And that was supposed to be a bad contract. And it's not if it does that to Philadelphia this time of year, but listen to the sound and what they're laughing at because the stakes keep climbing in the playoffs. Atlanta knows how great this is, I think this is the best Atlanta team I've ever seen. All of them, this is the best one, this one without Freddie Freeman 104 wins, and I'm

telling you, they're offends totally overwhelming historic. They are down to one, but when they tied it to save their season, the last play of that game, which is center field or at the fence, robbing a home run, Bryce Harper's coming around second base, he's doubled off at first. I want to just play for the audience, the sound of that. We don't have the audio or a broadcaster, but I want you to see what Atlanta's crowd is recognizing.

I've got a historic team and I'm on the cusp. If I have to go down to Philadelphia, down 02, I'm gonna lose this series and people are gonna laugh at me. And then a ball is hit toward the wall. And you can hear the fear in the crowd and you can hear the spots where everyone realizes that Bryce Harper has rounded second. And now he needs to get back to first. You tell me if this sound as just sound creates the drama and the tension that will explain to you what Philadelphia feels like and what it and and that is proof positive i cannot make baseball interesting to lucy and

Jessica well by being honest i have been watching the series and it has been very exciting, Dan. But what has gotten me invested in it is the war online between blooper and the fanatic, Philly's fanatic. I don't know what is his name, Philly Phonatic. He's a Philly Phonatic.

Yes. The Philly Phonatic. He's the greatest master of the same. He's the greatest master of the same. I mean, I'm old, so. I don't want to get his name, because I know that that will, I don't wanna be embroiled in this. I'm on his side.

The Philly Phanatic is on our screens right now. Mount Rushmore of mascot, scary. Well, Blooper went after him on Twitter, and it has not been good for Blooper since. He has been... Blooper kind of looks like a rip off of the Philly Phanatic. It was a... A man called Blooper, a sentient pair of dockers in response. I don't know, it's a rip off. It Philly fanatic. Yes. A man called Blooper a sentient pair of dockers in response.

I don't know. It has been very ugly. So I'm not going to like kind of rooting for the Phillies on this one. Watch the watch the game last night and the crowd was awesome. It was just it was a fun game. There were six homeruns, Dan. Are are you not and the history of this is interesting to me. Are you not aware that the Philly fanatic is a legend first ballot hole

i'm familiar i just didn't know if i if i knew him well enough to call him just like fanatic or if i had to call him the philly fanatic like is there a short hand well you heard roigot indignant back well now i know it's stopped at it in yelled at you the philly fanatic that's my back and he gritty is just Gritty. An enraged Roy who's been editing all show and has not smiled one time just rose up and defended the honor of it's The Philly Fanatic.

That's right, I love mascots. First name the, the, and. Middly name Philly. Blupper is just Blupper. Blupper is non-descript, he's a Walmart mascot, no one cares about him. He's a he's just a cost of you. And why why blooper thought and now I don't want to get involved in this like I don't want you're already involved. I don't want either of them to hear me say this. Why blooper thought that he could go after Philadelphia fans who we have

mentioned many times on the show as being very scary people. Big misstep on bloopers part. Bloopers should have not tweeted what he tweeted about the Philly fanatic. Bloopers a little mouthy for something that doesn't have a mouth. Lippy for something that doesn't have a lip. Yeah, those things need to keep quiet. What is the Mount Rushmore of mascots? If you can only choose for, forgive me, I love mascots, I've always loved mascots.

I think they're delightful, I don't understand. I don't understand why kids are scared of them I think they make everything better birthday parties that they're they're wonderful and they allow you to be a child in adulthood and Tony hates them I don't hate them. I just think they have no place in the consent of the sport because they're sacrilegious No, just because like we got it. Yeah, you're a guy that runs around. Okay, because they go against God What's the top four? They are very scary. Well, we know the first two is the Philly Phonatic in the San Diego chicken.

We got to think about the next two. The San Diego chicken. At this point, San Diego chicken's been phased out. Can I nominate Big Red, the Western Kentucky mascot? Yeah, that's a good one. I feel like he's a first ballot hall of fame. What about the Sanford Cardinal? No, we don't.

A tree? No, not again with the tree. Hold on a second. You guys cannot dismiss history like this. About party. Roy, you cannot back down. You cannot offer the San Diego chicken and they tell you get out of here and you run for the hills like a coward.

You have to defend the San Diego chicken. Oh, absolutely. That is Mount Rushmore. Second place. Sorry. It's Mount Rushmore. Second place. Sorry. It's a guy in a chicken soup. San Diego chicken got pushed out of the way by Gritty. Gritty in just a couple of short years.

Just already made the Mount Rushmore. That's true. Grease up there. May I nominate someone for the Mount Rushmore mascot? Yeah. Yeah. So what? The only thing that cheer me up after that lost

Alabama on Saturday was staring at a picture of Mrs. Met and her round mounds, if you know what I mean. Philadelphia has two of the greatest mascots of all time already with Gritty. And so I think you can say that. That can't be. Not if you're willing to sacrilege,

you're blasphemous when you say the San Diego chicken. You just ran him off Mount Rushmore. He's number, he's been number one, my entire adult life. Lucy, did you know that the San Diego chicken was even a thing? No, I had to look it up and I'm not to be mean. I'm not that impressed. Well, oh, the San Diego chicken did get tombstone pile driven by Kane. He invented. He invented. He throws the entire time. He's the original. He's the O.J. He has a picture with Ronald Reagan on his Wikipedia page. You guys, you know, he was the first high paid mascot. He blazed the trail for all these people now making $650,000 a year.

And you guys disrespect him. A dust in history. Not to do us two, God's, but like, what have you done lately? Oh man. Did I go chicken? Who else? The Advanced Auto Parts car battery.

Oh my God. Are we talking live mascots? Cause I saw Bevo this weekend, very cool. Bevo's cool. Stealing the beam. Also, yeah. It's really mean, it's scary. Yeah, that's a good one. What's the Purdue Boilermaker guy?

Muscle about no What's why is everyone scared of him what's wrong with him? Have you seen that little Freed muscles? He's a big freak is he? He's scary looking the Providence fry are also goes in that same category Nightmare fuel pistol Pistol Pete. Which one? Oklahoma State. Which one? I saw a video of pistol Pete dancing at a wedding

like no one was watching and it was a little endearing. I'm not gonna lie. Sun's gorilla. Oh, that's the highest paid now, right? I don't get that one. What does that do with the sun? It doesn't. I mean, it's hard to...

What does Gritty have to do with the fires? It doesn't. What does a chicken have to do with the podrains? It doesn't. It's hard to. What does Gritty have to do with the fires? It doesn't. What does a chicken have to do with the batteries? It doesn't. Lucy, you threw out there that you're getting to see Ralphie this week and you said it was cool. Are you sure it's not cruel?

I would think that it's very disorienting for an animal of that size to hear that kind of noise at every turn. No, it felt very cruel the whole time. When I was next to Bevo and the cannon was going off, I was like, this doesn't feel right, but I don't think it's anything I'm powerful enough to change. Well, I'm going to talk to Ron McGill see what he can do. But you're also doing this this weekend with Colorado, correct?

That's a home game for Colorado. Yeah, I am so excited to see Ralph. You're going to see the tree also. Just don't bring it up. Don't bring it up. I'm excited to see Ralph again. Do we remember when tree also. Just don't bring it up. Don't bring it up. I'm excited to see Graffi. Do we remember when they tried to feed Aga to Bevo? Yeah.

I don't remember this. Oh, I don't remember this. So championship. Aga and Bevo next to each other is like when you and Stugat stand next to each other. One very large mascot and one very small mascot. Nestle championship. You've all tried to kill auga

we have to have video of that that can't be played that's not something that's the dissemination homes uh... it's too bad uh... i thought that we got away with something uh... we could get away with something there because we're talking about mascots i feel like to know you're in a real minority here in in hating against mascots i don't believe there's an active group of army behind you.

That's fine, usually leaders again, stand on their own and go for what they believe in. And not to be cruel, but I kinda dig the live mascot. I like Beavo, I like Aga, I like the tiger, the Ralphie, I like the- You like the cruelties. Not the cruelty, I like the fact that they're there and they're a real mascot, not a fake mascot. Like San Diego chicken

If they had an actual chicken I ain't running around with a little jersey on I'd be like, you know what? That's cool I like that natural and it literally and he could be in the game, right? You have to like move out of the way. It's like a home field advantage for San Diego San Diego Like that No, you have you have now said that the San Diego chicken the pioneering Hall of Famer number one all-time mascot Would be better if it were actually a chicken a arena let loose during play that's kind of what sir Big Spurs At public mobile we do things differently. It's the perfect deal for anyone who could use some savings right now. Subscribe today at publicmobile.ca. Different is calling.

Done lebertard! Punch right this segment with what is your strike three call. Strike one would be strike and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stoo gots! That's same for strike two but strike three you get down low you got your hands behind the catcher. All right the right arm goes up into the air yeah, and then you finish it with a punch We're right arm flings way up into the air This is the down libertar show with this two gods

This is the Don Lebatars show with this two gods It may not sound like it around here, but I am grateful for the work of this metal arc intern He is busy doing other things Important things that I see on his face. He always looks fancy fresh He always looks radiant He has joy for creativity and life and I see on his face that this last six months seems like it would be really stressful. I asked him at the beginning of this, I'm like the strike and everything.

This seems stressful and he's like, well, we're fighting for the right thing. And now I learn when I come in today, they tell me everybody's walked away from the table dramatically and throwing up their arms and that this thing isn't actually resolved and peace and hope are not here. For the actors.

I know, but the actors were traumatic, but the writers headed by Mike Sher, who joins us now, they have gotten their deal done. I know, but all of this has been stressful and I feel like I see the stress on his face. Are you okay? Is everything all right? Because now you can get to back to work on the important things of giving us stats of the day. I'm fine, Dan, thanks for asking. And yes, the talks were segue after seeing it have broken off momentarily.

That's fairly typical in these high-tension negotiations. I won't read too much into it. It's not a good side, obviously, but that did happen a couple times over the course of WGAs negotiation with the companies. And cooler heads tend to prevail. It's a little bit of posturing, a little bit of strategy, who the hell knows, or maybe they just came to an impasse. But the writers are back to work. We're writing stuff. The actors need to get the deal, the works for them. And I think they will. I think labor is kind of having a little bit

of a moment right now after a mere 40 years of being pounded on and discarded by companies and I think that SAG is ultimately going to get a deal that they need and that will help them. So I'm optimistic. I don't know. Do I look exhausted and tired? I feel like you're saying, it's the ultimate neg. You're saying you look tired. I might be imagining it just because I imagine that your life has been stressful over the last six months. So maybe I'm seeing it in the place that it isn't. Let me ask you a couple questions. I haven't been on the show in a while and these are important questions. Number one, do you think that Mario Christobal should have taken a knee there at the end of the game? And

the second question, do you think with another five to eight hours of on air discussion, this show could get to the bottom of that question? Because I'm concerned that you haven't talked about it enough as a frequent listener of the show. I don't know if we've covered every angle here. Is it the third worst loss in Miami history or is it the fourth worst loss? Can we settle this once and for all? It's the worst loss.

I mean, for God's the worst loss. I mean, for God's sake, people. Like, I'm just trying, I have lived a kind of a stressful life. I'm trying to be entertained. I listen to your show as I walk around the streets, walking my dogs, or, you know, just trying to clear my head. It's nothing but should Mario Cristobal have taken a knee and how did that affect the program? Preach in the quarries.

For days, it's like five days of this. Prechiate it. If they had just not censored me and Lucy, we could have gotten that far. That's what Mike's system is. That's what Mike's trying to control the schedule so that we would talk about it last. Look at how it backfired on him. Oh my God. Huge upset that you would bring that up.

It's the most discussed topic in the history of the show. It's a split. Yeah, I agree. Move on, memory of a goldfish. Are you forgetting the Cestocyclone's? Because Mike's been wanting to talk. Got a butt Cestocyclone. You did who to win.

You did forget about the Cestocyclone. I know you were glued to ESPN3. Yes, it's still around. As Cestocyclone's got cut off this night and be the life sound Miami. I'll tell you this though as a fan of the show and a frequent listener, I'm really enjoying every week listening to Lucy go talk to college football lunatics on location. That is a delightful addition to this program.

Yeah, well, thank you. See if you see our more or less. Well, she's got two trips this week, and it's not just she's... Well, that's all pending review. All right, I have one quick question before we get to your stat of the day, Mike, and it's just a genuine curiosity

because I know you were a writer on SNL, head writer, right? I don't wanna sell you short. It was not head writer, no, I've been a very sweet and up date. I sold you long. That was McKay was the head right oh yeah as the other guy that guy he's got he's so cool and i think you ever had right here yeah why won't you ever had right

uh... well mccay was there before i was it is a very funny man very sick so that's maybe the best sketch comedy writer ever and then the other had writer was tina face who should i ever play yet no they're both better than you mike jenny one question ever and then the other head writer was Tina Fey. So who should I ever replace? Yeah, they're both better than you. Mike, gentlemen question is Mike. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. See, he's admitting it. I know that talk shows aren't able to have actors on their shows. As the actor strike is still going on, but talk shows occupy this weird writer performer space. And I know that SNL is coming back this week and Pete Davidson is hosting and while he's also a part of SAG

He is hosting because why my genuine curiosity here is that's Performance I know the writing these sketches and appearing in them, but how is SNL not crossing the picket line? This is a very complex issue that I will fully admit I don't totally understand. SAG After does not work the way the WGA works, which is basically the WGA has contracts with the companies. When you go on strike, those are struck companies. No work is done for those companies. SAG After has a bunch of different kinds of contracts with a bunch of with all these

places and they govern different things. And so like you said, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, they're allowed to come back, even though they're sag after members, they're allowed to come back and host their shows. Because there's all these weird carve outs for like late night and this talk shows, variety shows, all this sort of stuff. So I would assume that SNL falls under those sort of late night talk variety shows that are not technically that contract is not being struck right now

by the actors, which is why they're allowed to do it. The weird thing gets into like when a SAG actor, you know, Timothy Shalame goes on, just Colbert's show, technically speaking, he should not be doing any promotion for a project that is SAG after covered on the other contract. It gets really wonky and kind of hard to follow, but I think that's the basic idea. How do you feel about your victory? We haven't been able to celebrate that with you. You did a noble thing. You fought hard on behalf of the future of your writers and you won against on the...

Oh, I thought you were talking about the Drew Holiday trade. Well, I was going to head there too. The second thing that you wanted're talking about the drew holiday train well i was gonna head i was gonna head there too the second thing that you wanted to talk about which was oh was it drew holiday or lillard oh they're both victories of their victories of a different sort but i was uh... but anyway could go ahead with the no which one was sweeter no which one was sweeter uh...

well it depends on whether you're in the the hater mood or the or the just the fan mood right whether you're in the, the hater mood or the, or the, just the fan mood, right? If you're in a fan mood, you're like, Hey, Drew holiday is a better player than we've had at that position for the last couple of years. Some might say, some might say the final piece of the puzzle. I don't know if I'd go that far, but that was very exciting because that was unexpected. And now you look at that starting and closing five. that's as good as there is in basketball in my opinion. I mean doesn't think they've gotten better. I mean called Drew Holiday Corps. I didn't understand any of that analysis.

I hate he's probably basing that on you know the heat did cook him a little bit in that series last year and I believe me that's in the back of my mind. But that's a very good basketball player. And you can't look at the heat roster and the age of the heat players and say that they're better. That's a better lineup than the Celtics starting. Yeah, I haven't been able to say that over the last few years. No, I have actually you can you always forget that the Celtics one one of those series. No, I'm just no, no, no, no, what I'm what I'm saying.

Oh, I've said you're that the heat. Yes, no, that's true. Congratulations. You're've said, you're that the heat, yes. No, that's true. Congratulations. You're one win over the heat in the playoffs in my lifetime. When you always have the better roster. Yes, that's true. You're not going to get me on this. You know where I stand on this.

You know what I have said about the Miami Heat and how I have been right about the Miami Heat. Yeah, but it's also, it was also, I didn't like it because it let you off the hook when it came for me drinking your tears. I didn't like it because it let you off the hook when it came for me drinking your tears I didn't get to actually enjoy that because it was just a celebratory Parade of you actually being right but yeah, I have been super annoyed by the victory lap that Celtics fans initially took with Lillard going to Milwaukee. I was confused by it because it makes Milwaukee

Clearly the best team in the East and now if you look at is it makes Milwaukee clearly the best team in the East. And now if you look at Draft King Sportsbook, you're right there with them in terms of favorites in the East, but by him not going to us, you made Milwaukee a super team. That's true. However, Janis is adorable and great. And if you lose to Janis, you think like, no, you know what, I love that guy.

Like, he's great. I like, no, you know what, I love that guy. Like he's great. I like smoothies. You know? And Milwaukee. Yeah, with that. Milwaukee's, like that's great for Milwaukee. I want Milwaukee people to be happy. I don't want you to be happy.

Yeah, so yes, it makes the bucks better, but it makes you worse. And that was a win. That's a net win. I'm sure, do you realize how funny it is, though, for you specifically to say, yes, hating the Miami Heat feels to me better than solving the strike? Yeah

I look I'm happy for the all of my fellow writers I'm very happy for our crews and all of the ancillary businesses that get to get back to work and everything else That's all great, but the heat taken it on the chin, there's nothing that feels like that. That's as good as it gets. You're wearing your Celtic jersey because you now believe that you are no longer afraid of the heat, you are now somebody who feels like that. Oh, I'm terrified. No, you don't get to do this now. You don't get to do this now.

Why? If I'm not doing it now, if and when it happens, I get to enjoy it more than I enjoyed it last year. They say it now. No, no, the heat have officially ascended into the echelon that the Yankees are infarming in baseball, which is, I do not celebrate until they are out of the fire. Wow, I'm telling you, math is not the key.

This is the highest run of the sports ladder. That is the ultimate sign of respect. I appreciate it. Mike sure saying that his respect is soaked and so much fear that they have now rivaled the Yankees. He cannot give a greater sports compliment than that. Yankees have been alone in that echelon my entire life. Aloud. No one comes close. That should be a banner. Yeah. I'll take that. That should be a banner. You've actually given me a lot today. That's unbelievable. Just be careful.

Something called Cole switer hit five Three-pointers in the fourth quarter last night. No, they're raving about him. No, they're they're they're they're they think I worry about a new They think they're deeper and better and better than they were with Struse and Vincent 40% sure I pronounce his name correct. No, you did and they're they're in love with him They can't wait for heat fans to see how much better he is than Struce and Vincent. I'm sure he is. I'm sure he is. You know what this is like? Start of the day. And this is start of the day.

Start of the day. Start of the day. And this is start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. And this is start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It really is nice to be back on the show and nothing makes me feel more at home than the second the segment starts watching Jessica pick up her phone and just totally tune out What do I do about that? Can you give me nothing? No, no, no, no, okay. I'm producing the show. Okay I there is a recipe for banana bread on your computer right down

You switch We actually had our whole family was gonna go to USC Notre Dame this week I don't know we had to unfortunately cancel the trip but we were all set to lost a Louisville. Sorry that was a no. No, the weather looks really bad. So we're we're using that as our to make ourselves feel better about missing it. But that was the plan. We're going to try to get there at some point probably not with this point next year. All right, here's your set of the day. Here we go. This is according to someone I've never cited before. Baseball history dork on, I think Facebook, somebody's that me, it's screen, a screen cap of this. Of course, baseball history dork is exclusively on Facebook.

Exclusively on Facebook. It's perfect, right? The Seattle Mariners, a fairly tortured franchise, dynamic playoffs this year. They have, in their history, this is an incredible stat about their playoff utility, in their history, Seattle Manors have the same number of playoff appearances as they do ruptured testicles suffered by their players. That's five. In 1980, their pitcher Mike Parrott took a come backer off of Minnesota

shortstop Roy Smalley, rupture testicle. Hozias Manzanio had both of his testicles ruptured by Major Ramirez in 1997. Adrian Beltray, not wearing a cup when Alexi Ramirez of the White Sox hit got him. and then Mitch Hannager in 2019. There's five total rupture testicles in the history of the Seattle Mariners, and they have three ALCS appearances and two division appearances. That's at five total playoff series victories.

That is an amazing stat. I think, Mike, sure, I don't know what we're gonna do about this. I've been talking about having you as the rest of your internship be just go find the greatest stat there's ever been. I thought I gave one of them earlier this week when I said that Jim Harboh has more rushing yards than Bo Jackson. That's a good one.

I've got another one. I mean, Tom Brady, never being mathematically eliminated from a game that he took a snap in is kind of a crazy, but I also thought I heard a good one this week. Most touchdowns rushing in a season at Virginia Tech, not Michael Vick, Bruce Ariens. Yeah. That's amazing. That's a good one. It's unbelievable.

Are you going to find, are you going to find for us the best stat ever Told I'm gonna I'm gonna try. I don't know when I've to already talk to Pobletory about this. We're gonna try to find out together what the greatest stat is But I I do have a job that I have to do well Okay, go get back to it But real quick before you leave what was the most joyous of the victories not spoken in platitudes because you saved the future for writers uh... but this had to be a little bit emotional syrupy you you you you stared down the igers and the c e o's of the world and you got your fair caught you demanded it

and you got it it was that was uh... it was incredibly gratifying i'm very grateful to uh... to the rest of the negotiating committee and the leadership and Alan Stutzman who is our chief negotiator. They had a very, very steady hand through this whole thing. They were very good at communicating to the membership what was going on, what we were fighting for, why it mattered. Everybody really got it and understood it and the guild writers are tough MFers man they really gutted it out in a very very long nearly the longest strike in our history within days of being a longest

record in our history and it was very painful and very hard but we came through on the other side and we got this stuff not everything we wanted obviously but we got the majority of the stuff that we feel like we need to keep writing a viable career and it was very, very gratifying. So I'm very grateful to the entire writer's guild. And I hope that the SAG after gets the same deal. A piece of metal arc is coming out there the next couple of weeks to be at your side and embrace you, okay? We'll see you in a couple of weeks.

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to pay you to say twitter okay so it is a tweet on x in which michael ryan goes after errand rogers errand rogers is not playing football errand rogers over the last few years has really decided as a personality to speak his mind I've seen a lot of interviews with him and he's advocating for psychedelics and there are times that like he looks super glassy-eyed like he is He is in midlife going on a journey that involves darkness retreats and speaking his truth now on that involves darkness retreats and speaking his truth now on Pat McAfee. And he is calling Trevor, I'm sorry, he's calling Travis Kelsey, Mr. Fizer, and Travis Kelsey laughs it off and says, I'm not going to do vaccine wars with Aaron,

and then Aaron comes back on McAfee and says, it's not a war, I'd like to debate you. I'd like to debate you on vaccines. And Mike Ryan writes... Or FK Jr. I want to write, Mike Ryan writes on Twitter, again, not for subscription. This one you get for free. The only time I hear about vaccines now

is on Aaron Rodgers' weekly hits, we got it. It was too experimental for the same guy, foot-jobbing, healing crystals, while he blasts the sounds of dolphins bleeping to heal his Achilles. I'm exhausted. You don't like that Aaron Rodgers is coming out here for the second or third straight year advocating on behalf of Joe Rogan's America. And people are still divided on the vaccines in a number of different ways.

I would say to you that I understand anybody who says I don't trust pharmaceuticals, I don't trust the government, I don't trust doctors, don't tell me what to put in my body, but when there's a community health scare, I prefer to trust science and the idea that me not, me not taking a vaccine is something that I am doing under crisis on behalf of a community.

I was willing to go down the route of trusting science and the vaccines, but he's out here keeping this as a conversation wanting to argue Travis Kelsey about it. It's COVID-19. The 19 is for the year that it started. Okay. We talked vaccines and the pandemic as it raged through America and the world in 2020 as it impacted sports in 2020 and 2021. Largely, I think we've gotten away from it for the last couple of years. It's about to be 2024. And I think, look, I can avoid it. I can avoid Mac if it's on while I'm on

But Adam Shafter tweeting it as if it's the funniest thing in the world Mr. Pfizer and all in the name of engagement I get it but like enough I'm just sick of here and like these are the same people that were down playing the pandemic It's been three years. What are we still doing? It's not a conversation piece for me. It hasn't been four years at this point.

And I don't, I don't fault anybody for not getting a booster. I had one booster. I had the J&J one booster. I get it. Fine. Whatever. It was something that I felt like I had to do

in the moment in time when all our lives were impacting people were dying left and right to try to get us back to normal. We're thankfully, even though this thing is still around, more closer to normal than we've been. And it's just, it's a tired talking point. It's not funny. It's not clever. And he's obsessing over it.

And it's just in the lamest way possible. He was interesting to me at a time. But he's not interesting. He's not. It's the lamest talking point ever. Like, okay, we're going to keep going. Now it looks like he's grifting on the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey thing in the name of relevancy. And what, now you're the guy that's just,

I'll challenge you to debate, you have Fauci. It's just, it's lame. It's just, it's just, it's just lame. It's, it's lame. It's a loser thing to do. Does Adam Schaefter have like a contractual obligation to tweet about McAfee? Because a lot of people got really weirded out

during college game day a few weeks ago. And Adam Schaefter tweeted that McAfee had food lot of people got really weirded out during college game day a few weeks ago and Adam Schefter tweeted that McAfee had food poisoning. I think so. And then he tweeted this, like, Aaron Rogers comment as if it was like a news item, but like a funny, non-serious one. I think it looked there's obviously a corporate synergy aspect But I think Adam genuinely likes to Macafee show. And I like Pat and I find it charismatic. I'm bored to tears anytime. Macafee talks to Aaron Rodgers when Aaron Rodgers is not playing and he's just talking about vaccines. He's in tired time in ways that I don't find funny.

And it's just for me, a lake at this point. I'm just, I think I have the biggest issue with it in that it's not funny. It's not, it's just tired. It's a tired act. Dude, it's not, it's just tired, it's a tired act. Dude, it's about to be 2024. I haven't cared this strongly about it. Like for years, and we're still going with this.

There are a whole lot of people who are trying to drag me into this conversation with the pointing out that ESPN, you know, quote unquote, ran people off because of politics. And now you have on a show, somebody who's actively in it, the policy of ESPN has always been, if an athlete is doing it, you can use that as a shield to talk about whatever you're talking about.

Here's the actual policy of ESPN. And I'll give you this one for free. As long as it aligns with Norby Williamson's politics, it's okay. And if it doesn't, he'll leak something out to out how kick the coverage we all know what's going on there he ascends politics change uh... that was very direct you talk you did get it is about time so it is it's really that's all that is

i don't think people see that all your side well we we know who is reporter is we know the numbers that he shares and we know the policy in place, and how it shifts as he emasses power. But you are out here saying something, I don't believe that the audience knows or has any idea what it is that you're talking about as you talk about the virus.

And I'm talking about the... But the hypocrisy there, therein lies a hypocrisy. It's that people with the platforms are now saying something more agreeable that fall in line with the people that make the argument that would be on that side. It's always allowed in the instances when you're allowed to do the arguments that would be on that side. It's always allowed in the instances when you're allowed to do the arguments that would be on that side.

And that's the argument that would be on that side. And that's the argument that would be on that side. And that's the argument that would be on that side. And that's the argument that would be on that side. And that's the argument that would be on that side. And That's the argument that would be on that side. It's always allowed in the instances when you're allowed to use the athlete as a meat shield. Not when you can show your own politics that Mac if he can't talk about the virus, that he can only do it through Aaron Rogers. He's only allowed through Aaron Rodgers.

I know what the rules were when we were there. And they do appear to be different. I'm not jealous about it. I know why they're different because they don't fall in line with the shot collars there. But that's the main difference. You want to talk about like, oh, now we don't have to stick to sports. No, it was just, it was the main problem with us not sick in the sports. It was our views. It was what we were talking about. It wasn't the fact that we were talking about them. It was because us talking about them, us specifically, and our views made people they're uncomfortable.

You stared into a camera and gave that one for free. Yeah. I was, that's very, you get more of that for $2.99 on X or Twitter. Tell, tell, wait, well now we'll get people, wait a minute. If you start talking about that shit. You know what's gonna happen?

You're just gonna leave something out the bobby burick anyways yeah you that's been the move you just gave away all the secrets i don't know any of these people are