The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Matthew Kugler Dance Video (feat. John Amaechi)

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:26 So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo. Cuervo. The tequila that invented tequila. proximo.cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugatz Podcast. cast. This episode of the Dan LeBataard Show with Stu Gatze is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Our friend John Amici has braved our borders and customs restrictions to be here helping us with the all-important meetings. Gotta have meetings.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Welcome, John. It's nice to see you. Oh, thank you, good to be here. How hard and how much fear was there involved with trying to get over here to hold me in your bosom? It's, I tell you, the interesting part was a colleague of mine, an academic at another university, recently found themselves stopped, held for 36 hours,
Starting point is 00:02:23 and then gently ushered back to France. So since that point, it has made me breathe deeply about coming into the country. And not, again, it's not anything about the people of the country. It's just about the process of going through the border. And it's notable to me, I suppose, that I travel to the Middle East for work and places that others might imagine to be more hostile from a governmental point of view. And I feel less stressed than I felt coming in. I've got global entry, right?
Starting point is 00:02:56 So I've been double checked. The home office has checked me to make sure I'm not a bad person, and so is the US government. And they were all really very pleasant. And so it turns out to be a bit of a nothing But the idea that that stress exists in America is really strange for me I want to just show you something we've been playing with today, which is Donald Trump saying he is 6 3 224 pounds and the pathology of lying because I'm just putting him next to an assortment of world-class athletes who have a similar weight and size and there seems to be a discrepancy between how he looks and how they look. The pathology of lying
Starting point is 00:03:38 here as somebody who is a psychologist, what do you make of doing things like this where you're just perfectly okay saying six, three, 224 pounds when that lie does not meet the eye test? So I'd say two things. One, hold on, hold on. So this is what I'd say about that. Sorry, I'm just, I'm totally distracted by That was Matt Coogler.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The juxtaposition. Indeed it was. And believe it or not, the shorts match the shirt. What were you? I've never seen you speechless or not ready to be talking like a professional broadcaster at every moment. It's just that that particular shirt, also the pose,
Starting point is 00:04:23 it's like he's part of Trump's entourage. He's dancing. Well that was at Daytona. He's dancing. Oh, so essentially then the same thing. Mike, why don't you get your gear, gear head so that you could tell us all about the trip you're about to make to Talladega.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh my God, that's gonna be incredible. While Gianamici gathers his thoughts real quick, it was Bristol, baby, Kyle Larson bounces back from a terrible race at Darlington, which he made the same mistake twice and did not finish. He just totally laps the field. He was the best car by a wide stretch,
Starting point is 00:04:54 wins that race at Bristol. Kyle Larson's second win of the Cup Series team. But yeah, hey, DraftKings is helping me out, actually, go to Talladega, because I wanted to stay in the infield, because it's NASCAR's biggest party on the circuit. And I waited a little too long to do that. Apparently, like, you got to get that request in for a long time. But thankfully, my partners at DraftKings heard that this was something that I was interested in, work something out with NASCAR. So I'm
Starting point is 00:05:15 going to go there in a camper with three of my friends to Talladega Super Speedway for the most bonkers race weekend the NASCAR Cup Series has to offer. It is a trip that I've really wanted to take for quite some time. It is a dream and it's all being made possible because of DraftKings. Camper? You're doing a camper?
Starting point is 00:05:36 We got a camper, we got premium RV passes. It's incredible. There's concerts. It's the biggest party on the circuit. So I'm looking very much forward to this. John, you were saying before we interrupted you. No, no. So just to be clear, this is the thing where they just
Starting point is 00:05:49 go around in a circle, right? Yes. And so it's like tailgating at cars going around in a circle. I mean, sometimes it's an oval shape. Sometimes it's maybe more of a triangle. They do have road courses as well. So it's not always left turns, but predominantly left turns. Are you there? So is this one of those things
Starting point is 00:06:06 where you're there for the party, because I've met people who go to football and they're there for the party, not for the actual football. Is this one of those things? I'm there for both. I really do love left turns. And do you mean soccer?
Starting point is 00:06:16 No, no, I meant your football, sorry. Okay. Your football. Not the real football. You were saying about Trump and the pathology of lying before you got distracted by the cricklers, dancing in shirt. That's still amazing. It's still going to haunt me in my dreams.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So the thing that happens with human beings is that the way we think we look is influenced by a lot of different factors. You and I, we all know people who when they look at themselves, even in the peak of their prime, they see someone ugly and fat and and awful. It's very this is a test This is a test of uncommon difficulty. He is that how you don't stay on points to pit bull We're trying to figure out what the song was I think that's don't stop the party anyway So so people look at themselves and they have no idea what they actually look like.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then there are some people who are surrounded by others who reinforce their terrible ideas. So whether it's a child in a family who thinks they're fat and their mother looks at them and even though they're not fat, it says, yeah, you are a bit overweight. So some, and he's got a group of people, a group of sycophants around him who reinforce
Starting point is 00:07:23 that he is indeed the same as many of these other figures and he is muscular and and handsome and whatever else And I don't know. I'm I don't know that it's the most relevant part of the pathology that I might notice around him It's not the most relevant part It's just something funny that came out yesterday because I can't believe the brazenness of it. Like there's There is no one on the planet that we would show photos of Trump and they would say that person six three two hundred and twenty four pounds no but that's what happens with the comp you know the kind of convergence of power sycophancy and and this this need to grift right you're going to do whatever
Starting point is 00:08:04 you have to do say whatever you have to do, say whatever you have to say. This is remarkable. I team investigation, by the way. I don't know what to do right now. There is a gentleman, not to be outdone, with a beard in the back and the Dale Jr. shirt, and I've been trying to read his lips to decipher
Starting point is 00:08:18 which one of the Pitbull bangers might be sung now. I don't think that's Don't Stop the Party. Best I can tell, though, that might be Fireball. I appreciate the investigation. Continue with the investigation. Before John leaves for more of these meetings that he's helping us with here, I'd like to continue a conversation that we began to have last week about the mental health strain on athletes. Whatever it is that you feel fell off of Rory McElroy yesterday because of however it is that he would feel approaching that initial tee box on Sunday. One of the things that
Starting point is 00:08:53 I was talking about was the lopsided nature of what someone like Michael Phelps has to do to be Michael Phelps has to do to be a winner in the lonely swimming category of I've gotta do all the disciplined things as a swimmer, to live underwater, and I'm not gonna diagnose him with like autism spectrum, but he's got swimming spectrum stuff where like just being in the water all the time, he is somebody who got so great at that that maybe some other things fell by the wayside and Neil Brennan the comedian says well Of course, it's because the greatest of athletes. They're not mentally healthy. They're insane
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yes pants always carrying on about how athletes need to have good mental health And I want everyone to have great mental health, but not athletes good mental health. And I want everyone to have great mental health, but not athletes. You know what I call an athlete with good mental health? An assistant coach is what I call him. What documentary did we all watch about basketball during COVID?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Last Dance, correct. Did Michael Jordan seem mentally healthy to you in the slightest? Giant Mansion, one chair. Here's what we learned during the last dance. We learned that Michael Jordan's hobby was basketball, but his passion was revenge. It's what fuels him.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It's what fuels all the greats, like settling scores and holding grudges. I was at a restaurant recently, and some little kid was crying, and his dad was like, son, just to remember the most important thing in life is to never take anything personally. And I slid in and was like,
Starting point is 00:10:31 unless you want to be the greatest basketball player who ever lived. Yeah, if they're great at sports, they're out of their minds. Tom Brady, not well. Did you see him try to play toward the end? Whenever he tried to run, he looked like he was on the toilet and he left his phone in the other room.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Tom Brady tried to retire, made it like 10 days. Finally, he was like, I don't know these fucking kids. And they were like, Dad, will you come outside and throw the ball? And he was like, with you guys? No. Thoughts, Amici? Yeah, so he's right and he's wrong, right? So are there, is there a particular mindset
Starting point is 00:11:19 of an elite athlete that would definitely come at odds with what we might expect for the norms of society? Absolutely right. But the very same thing happens with the reintroduction of veterans back into society. The very same thing, because the mentality of being someone who is that kind of disciplined in an environment of that kind of peril creates a mindset that is not exactly normative for mowing your lawn and saying hi to the neighbor and borrowing a cup of sugar or whatever. So yes, you're right, there are some things that shift.
Starting point is 00:11:52 However, does this mean that every athlete who's elite has to be mentally unhealthy? Michael Jordan in The Last Dance is not an example of what had to be for him. He made choices that meant that certain key people never appeared in that documentary and refused to have a word to say for him. He made choices that meant that certain key people never appeared in that documentary and refused to have a word to say about it. He made choices.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And those choices had consequences both for him and his sense of being wrongly done by and his sense of having to, to whatever else, carry all the weight or whatever else. Not every elite athlete has to live in a world of misery and mental ill health, but they are going to be wired slightly differently than what you might expect your next-door neighbor. I thought that Robert Smith, I've told this story before, the great running back who retired early,
Starting point is 00:12:37 I thought he was uniquely qualified to retire early because he had a doctorate, had a million different interests, and was walking away from football while he could still walk, while the knees worked. And very soon after losing the discipline of, you have to be here at this time, he was throwing up into a bucket by his bed, drinking too much in the morning, because the lack of discipline structure
Starting point is 00:13:01 being something that he had been his entire life by the time he got to 30. He couldn't deal with what was happening. Dan, having a hobby outside of your work or even an education isn't what saves you. It certainly isn't what saved me. It's the idea that at no point did I think I was a basketball player. Did I think that's my title and that's my role it was what I was doing it wasn't who I was you when your occupation is your definition that is inherently always problematic and that's the difference the difference is that when people call me a basketball player now I am insulted I don't lament
Starting point is 00:13:38 it even when people tell me they can beat me at basketball I'm amused rather than insulted these are the this is the nature of this, right? It's the nature of this. Be amused when I pull the chair, buddy. You can go now. I'm pulling your chair. You didn't like the chair. You said it was too small.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You'd try to post him up and he would just move. Good seeing you. Thank you. Thank you for all your help and all of your care. Investigation did bear out that that was indeed fireball. Wow, fireball. Also, Tony, it looks like Meach literally ran away from the grind. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan and if you're watching our show, you probably know your boy has undergone
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Starting point is 00:17:42 Libertar Show with the Stugarts. Can we please talk about what just happened at Tennessee because this is the natural Tennessee football. This is the natural ascension of what's going to happen with the chaos of paying for players. Nico Amalievia now. What's his name? Iyama Layaba. Okay, so it's not on the leave you uh... because he's leaving tennessee now
Starting point is 00:18:08 we talked to lennon hamilton about this he had players boycott on him uh... where else is this happened where somebody thinks they're worth four million dollars but the school doesn't feel like they're worth four million dollars and now the portal has largely dried up and he's going to have trouble getting whatever money he thinks he has earned from another school. 11 of his 19 touchdown passes last season were against UTEP, Vanderbilt, and Chattanooga. So he only had eight touchdown passes in the big games that Tennessee was playing.
Starting point is 00:18:38 What do you guys make of the details of the business of this? I think the whole thing is honestly kind of sad. I feel bad that people are going to now, like Tennessee fans especially, are going to be really angry with him and blame him for this. And I also understand why you would if you were a fan, because this is someone that Tennessee went to bat for. They obviously spent a lot of money on his recruitment and paying this NIL deal, which of course we don't have any of the contract deals in front of us, so we're just going
Starting point is 00:19:03 off of what a lot of the reporting is saying about the details of the number and how much he was owed this year and how much he was asking for, et cetera, et cetera. But the fact that a quarterback who took a team to the playoffs, obviously with a lot of help with a great running back, good coaches, great defense, would ask for more money and basically not have any leverage to get what he was asking for because of some of the under performance issues like you mentioned Dan And then would just leave and enter the spring portal which really really limits your options because a lot of teams already have Allocated money for who their quarterbacks gonna be next fall a lot of administrators are operating
Starting point is 00:19:38 Operating under the fact that the house settlements gonna come through and they're going to have this 20 million dollar Cap soft cap or maybe it's a hard cap We don't't really know. There's an NIL clearinghouse that we don't have details on, but they're operating under the auspices that we already have decided this is who our quarterback is and we've set aside money for him and to have to all of a sudden be interested or maybe be interested in Nico and $4 million is what he's asking for this late in the game. It's gonna be hard for him to find a spot. That being said, it could end up working out for him. He could end up finding a place to play.
Starting point is 00:20:09 He could end up getting more money than he would have made at Tennessee. And financially, maybe it works out. I just think that the whole thing is kind of sad. And instead of being mad at him and maybe some bad advice that he could be getting, I think this is one of the reasons why five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago,
Starting point is 00:20:25 when all of this stuff was arising as an issue in college football, the NCAA sat on their hands and they didn't really try to come to any sort of conclusion, proactive conclusion about how to prevent things like this from happening. And so here we are with a 20 year old who's made a really, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:40 drastic decision early in his career that's going to stick with him for the rest of his life and certainly change the trajectory of his career and a lot of the careers of his former teammates, his former head coach, his future head coach, and et cetera. So it's just a really strange and kind of crappy situation. When Josh Heiple says no one is bigger than the team and he puts his foot down on,
Starting point is 00:21:03 you can leave starting quarterback of playoff team. He's doing it because he's not that good, right? He wouldn't be putting his foot down if that was Cam Ward, right? No, I think he's putting his foot down because he just has to at that point because Nico was engaging in a holdout at that point. Mario Crisabal spoke about this, was asked,
Starting point is 00:21:22 a lot of coaches are gonna be asked about this. Like, what would you do if this situation's like you, they have to go. You can't establish that precedent. But what if it's cam ward though? No, I think it's a good question, Dan. Like I, I don't know for sure if they would have let him walk away. If he was having, if he played an outrageously great season last year and they can't afford to see him go quite literally because it's going to set them back in a,
Starting point is 00:21:43 in a year where they thought they were going to be better and make a playoff and make all the millions of dollars that comes along with it. I don't know if we can answer that but I think this is if you're talking about it from a leverage standpoint he certainly would have had more leverage had he played to the level that I think was expected of him before the season started but that's just something we'll never know. Can we try to answer it though because Hypal's making a big show of like, this is happening throughout sports now. It just happened to champion Michael Malone. We are giving money and power to people
Starting point is 00:22:15 not old enough to be trusted with it. And what ends up happening if they don't care about either your program or your system is something like this where Josh Hyple can now be like, I showed him and I'm like, well, he's not that good. Like that wasn't an actual test for you. Like I know you don't want the discomfort of your starting quarterback leaving, but if you think you can get a better one for that money, that's what the game is. Now the game is doing the measurements on value as the coach. The game's not puffing
Starting point is 00:22:48 out your chest and no one's bigger than the team. Yeah, I given what they had invested in this player and what a ceiling is. Remember, he's still very young in his development that they're not happy about this, but I so I don't think it's like I'm making an example about a guy that didn't yet live up to expectations. I kind of think that he did. He's progressing fine. We all thought he would be a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:23:10 We thought that that offense. But he's 20, yeah. We thought that that offense would look closer to what it looked like at the start of the season by the end of it, and that wasn't necessarily the case. But he's very young. And also, yeah, worth mentioning, a lot of drops. His adjusted completion percentage is 72%,
Starting point is 00:23:23 something like that. The drop rate was higher than a lot of other top teams But yes, like this it's certainly not his best games against Georgia Certainly Ohio State and the teams that you know, you would have liked to see him play well against are there upgrades Potentially available around the nation. I don't know when you talk about availability It is just going to be funny when they no doubt get in the weeds and talk to people that perhaps won't even enter the portal, right? And they're going to play a pretty dirty game and trying to upgrade at that
Starting point is 00:23:53 position too. But I understand why Josh Hypple said this. Mario Cristobal's direct quote was, I don't care if it's a best player in the nation, you can't have this going out. Now he might've figured that out from our experience with Tyler Van Dyke a couple of years ago, where this popped up during a spring window and Tyler Van Dyke wasn't really in the portal, but was invoking some of these things like he may look to go elsewhere. Miami did indeed bring him back. Look, there's a lot of people that flirt with this, that leverage their NIL collectives that you never hear about
Starting point is 00:24:20 entering the portal. I would say the vast majority of people that have NIL deals leverage situations that they're technically not allowed to because they're not in the portal yet. It's the threat of going into the portal. And to Jess's earlier point, they still don't have this settlement. Many people, if I'm representing a student athlete that can command big NIL money,
Starting point is 00:24:41 I would say this might be our last chance to fully max out here on a market that is still pretty wild and unsettled. Before RevShare comes in and before people get started being slotted into cap spots, you may want to go out there and maximize your leverage while you still can. I'm a little worried about Jessica. I'm loathe to admit this publicly, but I think she's addicted to scratch-offs. I had a wild weekend, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:14 So I had a bunch of singles that I found in my nightstand. Hell yeah. Like $30, probably from the fine bucket, probably from when I won the fine bucket. And I was like, what am I gonna do with like 30 singles? I don't know, I don't use cash that much. Let's buy some scratch offs. So Lehman and I went and we bought some scratch offs.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You can get a lot of scratch offs for $30. So we ended up with like a stack of like 15 scratch offs. And I won $50. And one of the scratch offs, every single thing that I scratched off was a winner. That one alone was 15 bucks. And I got a little hooked and I was like, should we go back?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Should we get $50 worth of scratch offs now? Especially since you already took one stack and closely doubled that. Exactly, so then we went back. We got $50 worth of scratch offs. I got another huge stack. And there's this crossword scratch off game where you scratch off the letters
Starting point is 00:25:56 and then you cross off in the crossword, like the letters, if you get enough words, you get more money. So if you get like three words with your letters, you get 20 bucks. If you get four, you get 30 bucks, whatever. I got four words, so I won $30 just on that ticket alone, and then I did like 10 Monopoly scratch-offs,
Starting point is 00:26:11 and I won another $27. So I ended up with $47 now. I think, yeah, I don't know, I just said the math wrong, but it was $47, so we went back, and we got more scratch-offs. So now I'm like 30 scratch offs deep on Sunday. Where were you going to get them? Like a 7-Eleven or?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Milums. Okay. Milums. Milums? Always Milums, never what you said. I thought it was Milums. Yeah, you're wrong. Dan?
Starting point is 00:26:36 Tomato, tomato. What do you think? She doesn't go there. Milums. Thank you, Dan. The way that I recently got grabbed, and I don't know what money you ended up with, but this is sort of the way that gambling empires
Starting point is 00:26:51 are built with your money. I went and got lotto tickets, I would say, for the first time in like 35 years, and immediately won $600. What? Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I mean, I feel like I'm single-handedly paying for the education system in Florida.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I assume that's where the lottery winnings go, but I really have no idea. Bullshit. I don't know where your money went, but I had to go someplace. They don't even pay you. After $500, you have to go to like a specific place. Like Tallahassee, it says it on the back.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's like, if you win more than $500, you have to mail this to Tallahassee. I'm like, what? That's crazy. I spent as much in gas to go to the place I had to to collect my winnings, just cause I wanted to collect the winnings, but it was a pain in the ass with traffic to get over there. And then the next time I played,
Starting point is 00:27:35 I didn't get but a couple of numbers and all the money went away. Did you end up quitting ahead? No, we went back and we were like, well, this was found money. Let's just keep going Why not so we got $47 worth of scratch offs back at the store came home scratch them all off No winners. Nothing. What do you use to scratch? Are you a key? It was a lot of fun Lehman has this BCS national championship pin from the last BCS national championship game
Starting point is 00:28:01 When he was covering at Sports Illustrated. It's got the perfect little hard metal edge. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, it was really nice. Perfect. Although we were fighting over, at one point, I took all of them and I started going, he's like, I wanna do some of these, I was like, but I wanna do them, and then we were fighting over who was gonna do
Starting point is 00:28:16 all the scratch offs. What do you guys think is the most used utensil to scratch off? Is it a key or a coin? Penny. Key, because you gotta do it at the actual facility, right? House key. Under Publix or whatever. House key. No, we you gotta do it at the actual facility, right, at the Publix or whatever. No, we took them home, Roy. This was an event.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like, we were taking our time, we were enjoying ourselves. Pour a nice glass of wine, do your scratch-offs. No, no, no. I'd like to sample the audience. Let's put that on a poll. I will, but know what, Roy? No, no, no, I'm doing it right there, because if I win, I'm turning it in at the Publix right there
Starting point is 00:28:43 so I can get my money, if it's less. There are two strategies. Like, there are the people that just scratch it right there because if I win, I'm turning it in at the Publix right there so I can get my money, if it's less. There are two strategies. I think there are the people that just scratch it right there. I'm with Jess though. If I'm gonna do it, it's gonna be a whole thing. We're gonna bring it home. Three questions then for the poll. Number three, are you addicted to scratch offs?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Number two, on scratch offs, do you use a key or a coin? Do you have another applicant here? And then the- A BCS national championship pin from the 2014 game. And then the third one, do you do the scratching off in the store or do you do it at home at Lebatard Show? The other option is a fingernail. No. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Boy, that's crazy. Fingernails insane. Gross. Don't do that. You are a monster! Watch your hands afterwards. A monster! That's insane. That's crazy. Fingernails insane. Gross. Don't do that. You are a monster! Watch your hands afterwards. A monster!
Starting point is 00:29:28 Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Do you use your fingernail on the scratch office? You staying strong with it, Roy? Or are you backing off? Or do you judge others as monsters who use their fingernails? You got your key to wipe the gunk off from underneath your nail bed? Are you, are any of you guys inserters instead of tappers on the credit cards?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Hell yeah. That's a great question. Excellent question. I mean, if you're still swiping in this day and age, you're just a monster. We're all tapping it. Sometimes you want to tap it first before. I'm pro-tapping, but every once in a while you find the one,
Starting point is 00:29:59 it's like, where am I supposed to tap? You're like, all of a sudden you're hovering your card. That's why I'm an inserter. Yeah, but then with the inserting, all of a sudden you get the terrible feeling of, sir, it's not in enough, can you really get it in there more? You gotta like hold it in there. It's just, it's more of a dangerous game, the inserting.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm a tapper. So I saw this news story on a local news channel about those credit card readers, specifically at gas stations, that if you insert your card, I always, anytime I go to a gas station now, I fiddle with the credit card reader a little bit, and one time I found one of the fake ones
Starting point is 00:30:35 that was there to scan the card. It just so happens I go to a gas station that the scanner wasn't working, because I'd much rather tap. So you had to insert, so at that one, I would always play with it, and one time one of those fake contraptions that was sealing people's identities fell off.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm like, oh my God, I'm glad I watched that. What are we looking for with the rattle? Like when you say you shake it. If it comes off. If it comes off. It shouldn't come off. Like one was, it was overlaid over the proper credit card reader.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And I shook it, and the plastic part, it just came off it's a credit card skimmer that pulled out that shouldn't be allowed thank you p.m. it isn't it's not I think that most of you might think and it would be a reasonable assumption to make that I am an inserter just because I'm old and because the credit card gets inserted inserted someplace the reason that I am an inserter is because I am so tired of the number of times
Starting point is 00:31:28 that the tap is inefficient or not working, and I just want to avoid the inefficiency. You're like, am I doing this right? Where do I hover? The inserter always works. The tapper works. I don't know what percentage of the time, but for me, it's not very often.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I hear you. But for me, it's also way more sanitary. So I always like to try to give it a wave once or twice. But when I'm inserting, I'm now at the, I'm just staring at this thing, waiting for the words remove card to pop up. It's just such a stressful thing. Stressful.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Whereas with the tapping, you see the little lights go across it, that light up, you're like, all right, I'm nailing this. Yeah, but the sanitation and the security that comes with tapping, for me, just outweighs the negatives, even if it's not working properly. What's the sanitation of inserting?
Starting point is 00:32:10 I'm with you, Dan, there's nothing better than a good, At a gas station? When you insert that thing right, though, there's nothing better, in terms of just feeling you get. I disagree, there are other insertions that are feeling better than that one. I don't know why you would say that that's the greatest of all of the feelings.
Starting point is 00:32:24 No, I'm saying in the paying world, there's no better feeling in the paying world than when you insert that thing right, and you feel that back wall. I would say that one of the things that's happening here, surely you guys have noticed this with self-checkout. Can we go talk to Amici? See you later.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I don't know what it is that you guys see with self-checkout, and I don't know, I've told you a number of times that I am in the line at the grocery store with other people and I'm looking at the line for cashiers and everyone's older than me I'm the youngest person because most young people are now self-checking out but I will tell you that just about every damn time I self-check out I have to go get somebody to help me because these three
Starting point is 00:33:06 things didn't scan correctly. This barcode didn't work correctly. We're at a point in the technology. This happened with cell phones, right? Before cell phone towers were everywhere, people became addicted to using cell phones in their car. And therefore, there were some inefficiencies in how the cell phone worked because the technology was not
Starting point is 00:33:28 yet in the place where it needed to be so that you can make a proper phone call that connects every time. It would be hit or miss. I feel like we're this we're in this place in a lot of places with technology. Do I have it wrong as it regards self-checkout? Because this is another place where I stand in line and I feel old in the line I'm standing in, but it's not because I'm old, it's because I don't trust the machinery over there to be as efficient as a human being.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I'm with you, it's rarely efficient, it demands I put it in a bag. It's like, no, I'd like to carry these two items out of the store. It's like, please put it in the bag. You can't scan your next item till it's in there. It's like, no, I'm just holding it, okay? You don't tell me where I'm putting it. If I have enough items that I need a bag, I'll put it in the bag. You can't scan your next item, Tilted. It's like, no, I'm just holding it. You don't tell me where I'm putting it. If I have enough items that I need a bag,
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'll put it in the bag. The issue is that the person who's doing the checkout at the grocery store is usually old, too. And I'm like, I need to go. I'll scan these 17 items quicker than you can scan the three items, and then another three items, and then Dan's 16 items. He's got to get celery.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Oh, where's the barcode on the celery, I don't know where the celery is. All you gotta do is tap the thing, type in celery, t-t-t-t-t, celery, oh, it's 13 cents a pound, perfect. Boom, all right, next. There are people that know what they're doing and there are people that don't. There's nothing better. That's in life.
Starting point is 00:34:36 When you get the person that, like, the person that's, they're walking up to the thing, boom, boom, you're good to go, and then you get the person that every once in a while where it's like, this is gonna take nine months. Okay, I don't know if Tony is right about this. Put it on the poll, please, that LeBittard show. Is the cashier always old?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Because I don't think that what he's saying is true there. They could either be really old or really young. Like a high school job, too. Well, they're not good jobs. This is one of the things that I find fascinating about what's happening right now with tariffs. I simply don't understand why all of America isn't self-aware enough to know that Americans in general are too lazy to do these jobs that nobody in America wants to do that they're willing to do more cheaply overseas because Americans do not want to do these jobs because these jobs suck and they do not pay
Starting point is 00:35:30 enough. There was an excerpt I read from a person that was in Donald Trump's previous administration that tried to repeatedly because every time they would talk about jobs Donald Trump has a perspective when it comes to manufacturing that Americans want to work in factories, that there is some dignity in this. It's like an America of a bygone age, and he would pull all the data and tell them every time, nobody wants to work in factories. People are more likely to up and quit their job if it's at a factory more than any other
Starting point is 00:35:58 industry. But there is a general disconnect, and it's not just Donald Trump, because you may think that that's coded. I actually saw a study in which Americans think here's Americans would be better off if more people worked in manufacturing. 80% of Americans agreed with this study. I would be better off if I worked in a factory. Only 25% of Americans agreed. This is one of the things that's happening and I've seen this in Florida right when storms come and take away entire cities. If you kick all of the migrants and all of the workers out of Florida who rebuild, we
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