The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Micky Arison Sound

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Amin is almost fully recovered from his fall at our Christmas Party and reveals to us he has been dry ever since. Speaking of dry, we revisit the video of Roy (who claims he’s been dry since July) staring longingly at David Dwork as he and Greg Cote took a shot from a hockey stick. What a waste of a perfectly good hockey stick! Then, speaking of hockey equipment, Roy tells us he is learning to skate in preparation for a potential media game at the 2026 Winter Classic in South Florida. Plus, why do we as sports fans care about the money in transactions but not the money in ownership? Also, Dan tells a story about Micky Arison that nobody really understands and leads to a hilarious ending with one of the most iconic sounds in show history catching Amin completely off guard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. At some point, thank you Amin for coming in and immediately shuffling papers when they're counting us in and trying to keep the sound pristine. Excellent start to the segment. And as always, we appreciate the drunken meanderings of Juan Amin Alhassan when he comes into town and graces us with his expertise. I've been dry since the holiday party. Way to go. Did you learn something? Are there more parts of that story that are unknown

because as an adult man, you probably shouldn't be drinking so much that you fall on your face. That's not what happened. Whoa, right. That's not at all what happened. I fell and I haven't had a drink since. I did not link those two things together.

I've fallen. We all have. I did not link those two things together. I've fallen. We all have. After the Christmas party and drinking too much? Not that night. Didn't drink too much. I wasn't the one doing shots out of a hockey stick. No, that was me. I wasn't the one falling on my face

and needing surgery on my lip. Well, I didn't need surgery. Shots out of a hockey stick is just a fun sentence. Yeah, it's great. I remember, please get the sound and the video of one of my favorite moments of the holidays ever that I've experienced Which is Roy Bellamy staring as David Dwork those shots with Greg Cody at the holiday party in a real moment of camaraderie Is lost between Roy and his hockey host because Greg Cody an an older man, has stolen David Dwork from him. I've rarely seen anything funnier than that

and now, all of a sudden in the new year, Roy is shaving off his eyebrows accidentally so he could keep up with the younger man, Greg Cody, in keeping David Dwork's interests. I haven't had a drink since July, so. Wow. July? July. Since the Panthers won the cup? Amazing. I haven't had a drink since July so Panthers won the cup amazing since that's crazy. It is crazy. Yes very crazy Well, you're again making the holiday party about how you didn't have a drink and again boring us with tales of how it is That you're dry. I saw the look on your face. You were jealous because Greg Cody was having more fun with your co-host

It was not about the liquor. it was about David Dwork. Oh it was about the liquor. Yeah are we sure? I'm gonna drink. Roy hasn't drank since this happened. Alright we have made it from Ameren- to the infield which is a couple blocks down. Roy still doesn't think that's funny you understand why it's funny Roy because you sound drunk

even though you're denying you're drunk the you keep saying I didn't have anything to drink but there's the proof. All right, we have made it from Amerenbekerena to the infield, which is a couple blocks down. You understand? So you deny that you were drunk, but it's very clear through the sound that you can play again here, Chris, that you are clearly drunk. This is how a drunk announcer would sound. All right, we have made it from Amerenbekerina to the infield, which is a couple blocks down. I did not have a drink.

He was euphoric. It was a big day. The Panthers won, Ice Cats. He was drunk on hockey, dude. Yeah, euphoria. Today me and Roy played tag in the morning. It was fun. Also, sometimes people stumbled in

without alcohol being involved. Yeah. It happens. It happened to me. Yeah, ludicrous. I would argue that one of those stumblings stumbled in without alcohol being involved. It happens. It happened to me. It happened to me. Ludicrous. I would argue that one of those stumblings is what you just did in not listening to what it is that Billy just tossed you that you ran right past

and couldn't even tell me what it is right now. I believe that's a $7 fine for me to the Venmo fine bucket. Has anyone contributed yet? Yes, no, we have not. Okay, I'll be the first. We've got a new fine bucket. It's a dollar for a mistake. It is two dollars for coughing and phlegm,

three dollars for pestering, five dollars for tone, seven dollars for not listening, 10 dollars for phone interruption, 50 dollars for death, and fines are doubled on Tuesdays when Greg Cody is here. The Venmo fine bucket, love it. It's at Billy L. Gill, just send them money that way. I sent it to the bucket, I don't send it to you.

Oh. From the maker of It's Opposite Day. Which is January 25th, we looked it up. Oh, it's early, is it a leap year? Oh, I can't wait. Why is it different this year? Must be like Thanksgiving. From the maker of It's an opposite day.

I mean, I'm going to give you the information and you're going to see the errors of your ways. And I think the seven dollar not listening fine should be doubled. What? Well, I think your reaction is only on Tuesdays with Greg. I mean, I think your reaction to hearing for the first time what you should have heard because listening is an important feature of the show Is the follow-up questions? I assume you're gonna ask when I tell you that Billy Gill said that him and Roy played tag this morning

You didn't even hear that no Was it was a phone tag? I hate phone. No, I don don't, was it, was it? I assumed it was actual tag, and I was shocked because Roy Playful during a dry time is not something that I can imagine in my wildest imaginations. Yeah, Billy ran across the street and tapped me on the back desk tag. Yeah, so what happened was.

Sounds like Roy's it. Yeah, you're it. He is it, so that's exactly what happened. So we have to cross two different streets, and there's cars coming But there's a crosswalk that tells you times Counting down so I was running to beat that because if not you're there for like 20 minutes And it was cold this morning, and I saw Roy so as I ran past him I tagged him I said tag you're it and I kept running and then he just gave me a death stare

And I realized Roy doesn't want to play tag right now Irony that's exactly how I fell. Playing tag. Who were you playing tag with, Roy? With Roy. Really? We were both dry. So Roy was it when I tagged him then?

By the way, it's time out. You can't tag me. From the maker of It's Opposite Day, Billy Gill tried to play tag with Roy. Roy was not feeling playful. He was also not feeling playful when this happened at the holiday party where you can see for yourself that he is jealous and this is not about being dry. This is also not about I haven't had anything to drink in many months. This is everything about David Dwork and Greg Kody are drinking shots themselves. And when you focus in on Roy's face, you will see there that there's nothing but horror

and I see jealousy there. Billy, do you not see jealousy there? Because you were shaking your head. I could see you shaking your head here earlier in the segment even though it's hidden behind a dinosaur. I can't see anything, Dan. I just ask who's the fourth person. No.

The Zoom. Now here's the fourth person? The zoom. Now here's the thing, when they pull the hockey stick back though, if you let it watch, his eyes follow the stick. So I'm going to aside with Roy, he's staring at the alcohol. Yes. Damn right I am. He's envious of other people getting drunk. Exactly.

Let it run. Run that video again. And then watch as the stick gets pulled back where Roy's eyes follow. He doesn't stay on Greg Cody and on Dave. It goes with the alcohol. Boom. Shots up, Roy's staring, stick comes back.

You see that? See where his eyes go? Is it possible Roy's mad that they wasted a perfectly good hockey stick? Because he told me this weekend that he's learning to skate to play hockey. So I think now he's in the zone.

Wow. Yes, I am. I have a hockey equipment. I'm learning how to skate and hopefully that because the the Panthers are going to host the winter classic next season. You're playing. I'm not playing in the actual game, but it might be a media game. So,

I mean, oh, a media game. So Dangerous right who's the best hockey player of all the media members that you're aware of is it Minervini? I think Many goodie plays pick up hockey probably as jobs a goalie probably Ed Jovanovsky will mansell Yeah, that's probably non former player division right because we're not gonna do Randy Mohler We're gonna do who media members who aren't, we have not talked enough about that team. We're going to do it again this season. The thing that I want to ask the group here, because this is a fairly fascinating time in Miami,

and I'm guessing that the majority of the audience, if they're not already tired of us talking for two days about Jimmy Butler and Tyree Kell will soon be tired of it but it is super rare. Don't leave out the Padres. It is super rare. You guys weren't interested in that story huh? No I mean super wildcard weekend is coming up. Let's talk about February 11th after the Super Bowl. It's always interesting to me though when you guys are interested about money like you guys are sick it's it really is funny to me right cuz jimmy ballard

tyrick hill it's all money money money money doesn't matter when it's that you fascinated but when it's the big money when it when it's the money that families fight over and what he johnson is making his teenage kids the team then you don't care unless i give you the details of, oh, Rich Family treats the whole thing as a stupid toy. Isn't that funny? They ruin Aaron Rodgers at the end

because it's a Rich Family stupid toy. What about me makes you think that's funny? I mean, I represent Jet fans here. I am the only Jet fan here. I am. None of it's funny. I've known that for two and a half decades. This is the part that I that I'm fascinated by that

I want to talk about with you and to mean because I don't get it as a content strategy thing I've been telling you for years that when John skipper and David Samson talked with Pablo Torre the amount of business information there is something that the business world is chewing up because they can't believe that's out there and for free a knowledge of how it is to dominate the sports business what do you mean you can just get that expertise by downloading 50 minutes because we cover it very poorly in sports because in the mainstream media we obsess about the Tyreek Hills and the Jimmy Butler's and these owners hide in the mainstream media we obsess about the Tyreke Hills and

the Jimmy Butler's and these owners hide in the shadows and we don't know anything about them and they are these shadowy creatures that are covered very poorly until all of a sudden Donald Sterling stumbles into it for the 7,000th time and then they can't hide it anymore. Well then I'll say this, there's two reasons for that. Reason number one is there's a dearth of people who actually know these things, right? David Sampson, me, Mike Tannenbaum, I don't know, he's not on ESPN anymore.

Like the number of people who work in front office and are willing to speak frankly, not just. That's the big thing though that I'm telling you is on the Sporting Class podcast where it's like this information, nobody gives it publicly. How it is these commissioners get run through on these TV contracts,

because people keep assigning some strength to the people running college football and they've been played for fools already by the money. Now, the other side of this, I'm gonna say, is part of the grander problem, I think, about sports. And I talked about this to you when Georgia Tech was playing Miami. And I said, it's so fun just to be a dumb fan.

I don't know who the AD at Georgia Tech is. I just know that my team's gonna kick your ass. And that's kind of what makes the whole business work is a bunch of people who don't ask too many questions about where is this money trail at it? This is one of the the men have the most permission to be just interested in all the little soap opera things. What is Tyreek doing with his Twitter account? Like we can sink right into all of it freely.

I want the juicy drama on everything and so in miami right now to star players fighting over what is a giant amount of money for them and not a giant amount of money for the guy who runs that franchise into the ground in bills f one arena and runs this economy in the neighborhood all around him into the cemetery while growing something that he profits from greatly that he will have a succession plan for but will end with Tyree Kale and Jimmy Butler no longer being in town and us talking about the small little money details

without caring about the real money. I don't think people to a means point, and I'm with them on this, people really care about the ownership, how they go about running and operating their team. Like, people only have so much that they can be concerned about, only so much bandwidth, only so much they can pay attention to you, pay attention to. And the higher you get in sports, Dan, the more tricky and complicated those discussions get. And people aren't in on tricky and complicated conversations when it comes to sports. They have enough of those in their life with their

family with their job with work with all that stuff. How about the interesting part? They just want to fire a coach, but but okay, but you're interested when Woody Johnson's kids are involved and you're also interested when I tell you the story. I'm not though you're interested when I tell you this story. You're going to tell me you're not interested in Woody Johnson's teenage kids are running the Jets to God I'm interested in the Jets finally being good. I'm interested in the Jets finally making a Super Bowl

I'm interested in the Jets drafting the right quarterback. Those are the things I'm interested in There's nothing I could do about Woody Johnson and his family. He owns the Jets. What am I gonna do about it? I think to Dan's point it's infinitely more interesting and noteworthy when the franchise in question has a history of being awful. Jets, that's interesting, right? We care because the Jets, awful. Awful for a long time.

Laughingstock. Browns. Donald Sterling. Easy. Browns. Easyling easy Browns easy Padres Don't care as much heat Dolphins even you may not care about the Padres the Padres were a game away from

Changing the entire way the last baseball season ended and have been playing the big-money game in a way that's confusing four or five years We're back to the pods. The reason that I'm coming back to the pods is because there are ways to make this interesting. And one of the ways I would say even Stugats would be interested is when Keon Dooling gets on to Mickey Erison's both with Shaquille O'Neal. Shaquille O'Neal and says to him, and says to him, Shaq, you ain't rich. This is rich. I thought people were interested in the amount of money at the top of the food chain that ends up controlling all the other money while we talk about Tyreek Hill and Jimmy Butler wanting money

they're not going to get because the owners in power are better at these games than the players are. Dan, I'm going to get because the owners and power are better at these games than the players are. Dan, I'm going to say it again, unless it comes with extended ineptitude, fans don't care. They're more concerned about the product on the field. I'll give you a great example. A guy that we talked about a lot, not just we on the show, we across basketball media talked about a lot for a long time jim

dolan jim dolan worth owner jim don't work on nicks got good how much jim dolan talk have we had none none right because now the product is worth talking about right genie bus and the bus family oh my god that's so Barbara it coincided with the lakers have been bad for a long time right all of these things are are conjoined I mean I'll take that one step further if the Knicks win a championship they will praise Jimmy Doe no they will they will praise Leon Rose short memory they know they won't praise the owner they'll plays they'll what I'm talking about the fan base right the fan base will praise Leon Rose of the'll praise Tibbs, they'll definitely praise, the

guy who gets the most praise is going to be Jalen Brunson. Because again, that's what the fans connect to, what's happening here. It's almost like, you know how they say like in football, like the quarterback's supposed to be the smartest guy, and then the next smartest guys are the offensive line, and then the farther out you get, the more kind of specialized people are. It's the same thing. The closer you are to the action on the court that's where the fans put the importance on. The players, number one.

And if the players outside then it's the next thing is the coach and the next thing after the coach is the general manager. And the owner is far, far removed and often on purpose. Sometimes you get a Mark Cuban, you get a Jerry Jones, can't help himself in front of a microphone, go, I'm the star of the show. But for the most part, like Miami Heat fans, how many times have you heard

what Mickey Harrison's voice sounds like? You have no idea. They have no idea what he sounds like. Because. Sounds like this. Well, actually that's not what it sounds like. Oh, wrong Mickey. I promised Mickey Airs in a long time I wouldn't play this sound anymore,

but now it's too good to not play because it is one of the great classics. Gonna get another call, Dan-o. In the history of the show. Another sleepless night. Yeah, well now we're, now we are here. And now you see, you guys, man, you guys. Us guys, we're trying to build Pat a statue on the roof

Yeah, I actually approved the budget for that during one of the breaks. Oh, thank you. I got a I got a counter They said what if we put it on the pool deck? I'm like no roof I think the pool deck works why rather the pool looking right down there on that balcony Billy stay strong We're really really robust. There's 49 floors on this building. Yeah, that's why. Billy, right where you did the yoga in the intro, right there, that's perfect. My idea is to have Pat from when they lost the Nixon 2000 and he had his hands against the wall like that, like that, but just on the balcony overlooking the arena.

I want, please get me the sound, Chris. This goes way back in the library. It is some precious, precious sound. Look, I'm gonna, look. I'm gonna tell a couple of stories here to explain to everyone here. Just be careful, man. Okay, all right.

But when, look, this is a good story I'm about to tell. I've never told this story before, and I legitimately do not know what I'm about to say, how it is that it happened, okay? I'm gonna move my mic away because I'm not gonna interrupt this story. Okay, but if you guys want to understand how it is that money moves are made

and why it is that I'm telling you, man, aren't you guys, shouldn't you be more interested in how it is the big money plays, okay? Oh, he took his glasses off, I'm moving my mic away. That's a good story, that's a good story. I don't know whether I should tell it, but now we're here. You're telling it.

So when you say that people do not know what Mickey Harrison sounds like, he did an interview with us during the height of the Big Three when any aggregated thing would make a mess for everybody involved. And he said, among other things, some form of, well, what do you want me to do about where it is that Chris Bosch can or can't go? I can't control their freedom. It's not whatever it is, wherever it is we were, slave days. I don't control freedom.

That sound never got out after being live. People couldn't access where that sound went. They were asking me if I had covered it up. I didn't know where it went. It disappeared from wherever the places are that that stuff would make an appearance. And I've never heard it since and it never was a thing because it was simply live and then vanished. Something that was our sound that would have been an aggregated national controversy that

the heat did not need just vanished in ways that I don't understand. I know how it vanished. The fixer. Oh boy. The bald guy? Oh what? You know it. So many calls. Do we have that sound?

Can we play it? What sound? Oh we don't have it. Okay it doesn't exist. I don't know because Chris Cody, the sound that I'm talking about, I don't have that sound. I don't know where that sound is anymore. I don't know.

That sound disappeared when it happened and i didn't understand why it happened and that never became a thing and we never talked about it again the sound i'm talking about pre-date samin i don't think i mean knows what we're talking about when we reference one of the most famous sounds in show history that involves mickey arrison chris cody doesn't know what it is that I'm talking about. I don't know. Yes you do, Stugat. I do know.

Stugat. I do know. Stugat. I know. Do you not know? Is this the expose where he admitted to putting air in chips? Yes. Stugat, you don't know the sound I'm about to play

that I have told Mickey Areson that we're not playing anymore because it's a problematic sound. Mickey Areson chips, chips man i was a good day i do know the sound of the where of the sad yes i'm just i'm going to play it as one years voice i don't i don't care about the weather or chris can't find it because he doesn't know the joke i'm talking about crap after mickey arrison is not a public speaker okay so he is outside this arena

here and uh... it there are there's a parade full of people out front and the the slogan for the Miami Heat at the time is stay white and No, no, it was white hot excuse me, I just can't believe that nobody around here knows this story It's like one of the most famous in the show's clearly I know the story Surrounded by people who don't know this story when it's sound advantage that this people that the people around you should know the story we're telling us the story we moved our mics away

how am i telling a story that is one of the most famous in show history that no one here knows that story how is it possible that is one of the most famous in show history that no one here knows that story. How is it possible when everyone here knows the story? I think we're trying to figure out which story. Is it the state white story or the sound disappearing story? Because that story was leading us there. The sound disappearing story is not something

that any of you knew. Correct. The other story no don't tell me to stop banging on the table when I don't understand we're celebrating our 20th anniversary and I got a room full of people who don't know the most famous shit we've done but it could be a you problem not enough problem it could be we're all confused admittedly yes I do want to refer to the Venmo bucket fine chart uh tone tone five dollars, so lucky you didn't do it on a Tuesday

Yeah, do you guys not understand why this would be just exasperating to me? Here's the story and forgive me for getting it wrong the first time I am really in a state of discombobulation because I can't believe our crew doesn't remember big moments and show history Let me move my mic away. The owner. We don't know which story. Owner of the Miami Heat. I'm moving the mic away. Was speaking in front of a whole lot of black people

during a parade. The slogan for the team at the time was white hot. And he told those black people in an echoing way that sounded like a Klan rally in an auditorium to stay white. Stay white. You've heard the voice. Thank you. Yes.

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Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy. The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency No interest over 36 months. Yeah No, Carvana gave me an offer in minutes picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient Just like that. Yeah, no hassle none. That is super convenient Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience pick up these may apply Don LeBattard That was a long story. Yeah, it's the only kind he tells. It's the short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys. You forgot about the league's cup. Stugatz. Yeah. La Carreta

is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlins celebration because it was Levant. Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugats. This episode of the Dan Lebatard Show with Stugats is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. We have a victory lap to get to and also I need to understand from Billy and others if we're going to involve Matt Coogler, soft talking Matt Coogler, new producer of South Beach Sessions, if we're going to involve him on the decision making that is, do we air Pat Riley this year or this week or do we not air Pat Riley because we did an interview for South Beach Sessions.

But before I do that, I have to go to Billy. His costume is falling apart. His day is falling apart. His time has been falling apart since he took the manager's special. Please Amin, stop fiddling with your microphone. Your only contributions to the show at beginning of segments is to make noises that distract me.

Sorry. I just hit you guys with an epic I happen to know a truly epic I happen to know that Amin did not happen to know even though it's one of the most famous moments in show history an echoing stay white but because Billy's costume is falling apart I would like before he falls apart for the rest of the day for him to explain to us why he is claiming that we have been betrayed by our people. Well, okay, so this is what's happening here

and I don't know if you've caught on to, you may have felt this for some time, Dan, is I'm realizing we do shows in large part for entertain, at least in my view, to entertain the audience, entertain the masses, so sometimes we say things that, you know, maybe we get involved, we get excited, and we say things that you're like, okay, it's fine, whatever, to joke here or there.

And then it'll just go away. The people will hear it and we'll move on and we'll go on to the next thing, right? What I've found is that our social media department likes to clip those things and put them out there to, I guess, click bait and really cause problems for all of us. And it's happening more and more to me lately.

Like the more excited I get about certain things and the more personally I say certain things, I realize they're just cutting these clips of me saying not so nice things about a lot of people and eventually it's going to come back to bite me. And I'm not a fan of this and I sent a strongly worded text and I said, what are you doing here? And then they said, do you want us to take down the Mario Cristobal clip? And I said, no, I don't care about him, but in the future,

you know, this may come back to bite me. Maybe let's not continue to do stuff here like this. Thank you, Billy. We do this to Chris Sims all the time on God Bless Football. Well, I mean, he has a coming con. Billy, I thank you for making that complaint a public one. I have had it about our company and our people for a while now.

Very often the things that get clicked are things I've said that come back and have haunting results, like Warren Sapp, if he sees me in public and thinks that I said he has bad breath when it's only Stugats who has said that he has a bad breath or when I get a beer bottle broken over my chin because people think I'm responsible for the Pell Grant scandal at the University of Miami

because you guys have said I'm responsible for the Pell Grant scandal at the University of Miami. I have human costs that is on my chin, a scar on my chin from a beer bottle that i was hit with our people are always betraying us and billy in your case those social media people are awful

they are aggregate horrors terrible people they they are they don't care they're shameless they just they want us to get in trouble and causes problems i'm watching a jerry springer documentary on netflix on the problems that producers caused at jerry springer by not taking any responsibility for the fact that they were doing dumb ship with dumb people that's what we do around here you guys are going to get me and billy harmed in today's america

by getting your clicks this cheaply my tone is shit today yeah the phone out we had a situation where the 2001 Miami Hurricanes wanted to come and fight Dan not too long ago because something someone said on this show you call the ball guy an asshole before. I mean. No, I did not. You are playing with fire a little bit. Said dick. Oh, I'm sorry. Dick's sporting goods.

He just thought his name was Richard. Yeah, I don't know his name. He didn't know until the dance started. He didn't know my name either, so it's fair. If you wanna see the bald guy in action at a Miami Heat game, you should go to Game Time. Download the Game Time app. Wow.

Create an account, use code Dan. We're gonna get you $20 off your first purchase, terms apply, what time is it, it's game time. Terms apply. I was gonna say well done right up until you, well you know what you did. Oh.

Oh. We were, Amin and I were having a funny conversation. Dan just left, by the way. Yes. Yeah, that tone fine really got to me. I don't think that really falls under the Vembo bucket fine chart here. Where if you have that tone.

Yeah, well pay $5, don't leave the show. There's gotta be a higher, there's gotta be two tone levels, right? There's one that's a regular tone. Right. And then there's what Dan just did. And there's Dan tone. Yeah, Dan tone's gotta be more than $5. Do you double it every time there's a regular tone. And then there's what Dan just did. And there's Dan Tone. Yeah, Dan Tone's gotta be more than $5.

Do you double it every time there's a tone fine in one show? Well, I was gonna ask. So the first fine for $5, but then the second time there's a tone issue, now it's $10. Fines are only doubled on Tuesdays. Repeat, it's been complicated. On opposite day, you take money out.

When is opposite day? January 25th. Okay. This year. Leap year? When is opposite death January 25th, okay this year leap year Anyway we were talking about Todd Bowles Why Because we didn't want to talk about the Padres anymore. That's a good point But that's also a good follow-up question. It is a good question and his question is kind of the answer it is

He's the coach you never hear about he's the coach that never hear about. He's the coach that no one cares about. He's the coach. How? How? He has a sweet spot. How? In the NFL, can a coach live in a space where it doesn't matter if he wins or loses? No one is saying Todd Bowles needs to win this game.

Todd Bowles is on the hot seat. Todd Bowles could coach the Buccaneers for the remainder of time and no one would care. So guys, let me tell you right now, he's in what we like to call the sweet spot. A little bit to this side, now you're Sean McVay, now you're Shanahan. You've got to be a genius. You've got to do something. A little bit to the other side, you're an idiot. How do you still have a job? When is the guy going to get out of here? The sweet spot, nobody even brings you up. You know what I'm thinking?

It might be because Baker's polarizing. If you have a polarizing quarterback, they kinda take all the attention. We don't really hear a lot about, when you're talking about McDermott, like Josh Allen, everyone talks about Josh Allen has to do it, no one talks about McDermott. Lamar Jackson has to do it, no one talks about Harbaugh.

I think that's going on here, everyone's kinda focused on Baker and they don't really look at bowls as much. I would say if Lamar Jackson, if they lose to Pittsburgh, let's say John Harbaugh, who's won two playoff games in the last decade, two, with a two time MVP by the way, he'd be in trouble. But you hear more Lamar needs to do it.

You don't hear John Harbaugh. You do hear Lamar needs to do it. You think of Harbaugh as one of the better coaches in the league, I think you're wrong. I mean, maybe some noise would start, but he's definitely not losing his job. Did you guys see what happened with Mike McCarthy yesterday? So Mike McCarthy, everyone assumed was done.

They were just gonna let his contract expire and he'd not be the coach of the Cowboys anymore. And then the last couple of weeks, he's like, well maybe, maybe he's done enough to keep his job. And then yesterday or the day before, the Bears requested to interview Mike McCarthy for their head coaching vacancy,

which every team just is always like, yeah, okay, you can interview them. And the Cowboys said, no, you're not allowed to interview our coach. They have to keep him now, right? That's what it would seem like they're thinking of doing for some reason. It's amazing because they only have until the 14th right? Yeah it's only like this week if not then he can just

go and interview with him anyway so I don't know what they're trying to accomplish unless they sign him to an extension like in the next couple days. Billy that story fascinated me to no end yesterday as watching it unfold because I'm like on the one hand it's the Cowboys like what are you doing either you want them or you don't want, on the one hand, it's the Cowboys. Like, what are you doing? Either you want them or you don't want them. On the other hand, if you're the Bears, do you really think you need to get the jump on talking to Mike McCarthy?

Like, if we don't talk to him now, by the time he becomes a free agent, he'll be gone by then. But how happy was Mike McCarthy that they made that call? I kind of feel like that's, Stugats, follow me if you will. I kind of feel like that's a phone call. You pick up and you say, hey, guys, I need you to do me a solid. He knows someone in the Chicago organization.

You guys don't have to offer me. Give me some leverage. Yeah, don't offer me the job. Don't offer me the job. Just ask to interview me. It'd be funny if it was like Mike himself, like call it, he's like, hello. He throws his voice off.

Hey, I'm calling from the Chicago Bears. We would like to interview Mike McCarthy, please. The only way that could be funnier is if his voice sounded like Mickey Harrison's in that clip. Like this? I can't get enough of, it's not what he said. What he said obviously is funny, given the context that Dan provided.

The thing that made me collapse with laughter was the echo, the reverb on that voice. And I laugh hard because it makes it sound so much more ridiculous, but the other reason I laugh so hard is... (*whistle*) Greg Cody, major penalty, five minutes, me maximum. (*upbeat music*)

What happened? You did it to yourself? I hit the button accidentally. Accidentally. Is there a fine for that? Thank you for scaring the shit out of me. Mistake, one dollar? But, yes, that would be a... Yeah, it's a mistake. One dollar. One dollar right there, yeah, actually terrifying for that. Thank you for scaring the shit out of me steak $1, but yeah, yeah It's a mistake one dollar right there. Yeah, we don't open them in my bucket, but the other thing that made me

laugh uncontrollably about this As I'm on the ground laughing I started thinking to myself What if that's how Mickey Harrison sounds like not talking to no Mike? What if his voice just echoes and booms like that, like good morning, good morning, good morning. Like a Mike voice?

Yeah, like that. It just drove me insane thinking about that. But yeah, Billy, Mike McCarthy, that's what I want. I want him to have that voice when he calls up the cowboys. Hello, hello, hello, hello. But I mean, I want you to understand this. Okay. Nick Sirianni is the only coach in Eagles history, in Eagles history, to coach that organization to the playoffs in his first four seasons as the head coach. If he loses to Green

Bay this weekend at home, he's going to get fired. That's his ass. Todd Bowles loses this weekend, he'll be right back there next year. It's unbelievable. I'll give you another name from history. Eventually time caught up to him. Jeff Fisher? Yeah, Jeff Fisher was kind of in that sweet spot. Yes.

Like good enough. Yes. But not too good where we're like, hey, we have expectations. Right. But not bad enough to like, this guy's a bum. And the crazy part is that their defense, which Bowles is a defensive guy, is not good.

Like, if there's anything good with that team, it's the offense. He's one and two in the postseason. They won a Super Bowl with Arianz as the head coach. Brady was the quarterback. Bowles is basically, I mean, they made the playoffs three consecutive years, but he's one and two in the playoffs. I don't know what's going on in the Tampa sports market. On Tampa Sports Radio, WDAE one and two in the playoffs. I don't know what's going on in

the Tampa sports market on Tampa Sports Radio WDAE the sports animal in Tampa. I know I'm a local sports. Wow. But I don't know if they're passionate enough. It has to do with the city and the division, right? It must. No, I don't think it's an

organizational thing. I think he found the sweet spot. We all seek the sweet spot. Is it his voice? He's got a very like soft spoken voice. Maybe it's just like we don't think about him because he's just under the radar. You tell me it doesn't echo. Stay wide wide wide. He doesn't get too emotional. He doesn't talk very much. He just kind of stands there. I have one clip of Mike McCarthy talking by the way. I think just standing there is the key to longevity in the NFL. Butterfingers. Remember we used to have them on every year just on Halloween to talk about

Halloween. We used to have a lot of people on this show. That was a time. We used to get people. We still get people. Oh I have breaking news to share with you guys just a tease of sorts if you will. Who do we have today coming up? We secured an interview for God Bless Football that's gonna air on I have breaking news to share with you guys, just a tease of sorts, if you will. Who do we have today coming up? We secured an interview for God Bless Football that's gonna air on Friday with Todd from JoshAllen.com. No way! Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna talk to Todd.

He has since I reached out to him, raised the price of JoshAllen.com to $300,000 now. Okay. Attaboy. We're making him money. Put him on the shelf show the market just went up I'm very excited for that Billy. I have many many questions I just saw Billy raises what does the t-rex have would that be a claw is it a hoof?

It's a paw a paw. Yeah, okay. I just saw he raised it and I was just like what is that thing? So got you asked the question that I thought you would go for. So who do we have today? Yes because uh, Amin made the statement we used to get big guests around here. Chris says we still get big guests. Who do we have today? We have a weather expert coming up next. Butterfingers. Because Padre talk wasn't enough. The Day on the Batard Show with Stu Gotz is sponsored by BetterHelp. Every January feels like a fresh start. 365 blank pages just waiting for your story to be written. In 2025, maybe you're ready for a plot twist.

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