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You guys have heard me talk as the media
shakes all around us and starts to crumble
about the ideas that Greg Cody's show
featuring Greg Cody with his son is a business
and God bless football and stupality are businesses
and Pablo Torre finds out is a business.
And so I should tell you by way of promotion that Stu Gotz is doing God bless football
more often and is trying to get a running start with Pilots on being around five days
a week on God bless football as he grows that.
Why don't you tell the people, Stugots,
how it is they can get to where it is they need to get to
in order to find all things gots on StuTube.
You can also find Stupotity as well.
We have a new episode that's out right now.
We had Tim Legler on, so he was pretty interesting.
You can go to youtube.com slash at Stugots790.
That's where you go.
He was pretty interesting.
Classic. It's not much of a sale for That's where you go. He was pretty interesting. It's not much of a sale for Tim for Tim
Legler though. He was pretty interesting. Isn't that Stugat
salesman? I'm just letting you know that there's an episode
out right now. We did an episode. We did two episodes
yesterday. So we're doing stupidity. We're trying to bring
that back. It's doing very well. I appreciate everyone's
support. We're doing that three to four times a week. We'll
get to five times a week with God bless football once football rolls a wrap
I tell you when I hear that Tim Lundgaard was pretty interesting who Tim Lundgaard legs
You do seem to be great
To be a tough one for him you put like six or seven L's in leg
It sounds like you after 12
But no when I hear that he's pretty interesting it makes me want to listen thank you
I mean what pretty interesting that's that's big price. He was pretty interesting is not like maximum sales
Sealing with Tim Legler and pretty interesting is the ceiling and so he hit the ceiling I was proud of Tim
I don't yeah, I don't think that's the ceiling with Tim Legler. He's one of the best doing it. I think
Tim Legler... He was great.
I mean... But okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I'm not...
You like to undersell. That's not usually you. That's not usually
you. I know. I want to ask all of you this question about... You've heard me lament in
various ways the degrees in which sports coverage changes.
So that one of the talking points
after Shea Gilgis Alexander and OKC
gives us a championship that I guess people
are sort of confused by because they're looking at it
and they're like, well, aren't all these guys
supposed to suffer for a few years
before they get that good and celebrate
in their early 20s
winning the NBA championship.
They suffered last year.
They seem indifferent.
That's the part that annoyed me the most.
They're young and there's something unsatisfying
of customers feeling, for whatever the reasons are,
like they have more joy about what the history
of the story is than these kids out there
that are in their early 20s
and didn't even need a veteran of any kind
to win the entire sport.
But at Barstool Sports, Mark Titus says
of Shea Gilder's Alexander, quote,
"'I have zero respect for SGA, zero, none.
"'I bleeping hate watching him.
"'I think he's the worst MVP of my lifetime.
"'I think it's a disgusting watch
I think the Thunder are blight on basketball. I think the way they play is disgusting
I think that there's this idea that they are a team like a bunch of young guys that come together and play great team defense
They don't like they hack the shit out of guys and Bob Ryan. I love this
I'm not gonna say he speaks for all of us here, but he speaks from an indignance
that comes from Greg Cody's 1919 baseball age.
Hmm.
He says of Mark Titus,
who is this shithead? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's not I would say it's not classic Bob in that Bob has never been this aggressive throwing shit from on top of Mount
Sports writer like when when a columnist does this to you Bob Ryan does not normally hit anybody with who is this shithead
Mark Titus is what is new Boston Boston sports
Is it not is Barstool not new Boston sports coming to take the city away from Boston?
He's not really a boss and guy. Barcell did rise up from Boston,
but we were talking about Mark Titus
when he had his Club Trillian blog as a,
what was he, Ohio State?
As an Ohio State rotational player?
I mean, his point is that SGA is not fun to watch.
Do we disagree?
He's not, I mean.
Like, I kind of see the point he's making.
Obviously he was saying things that were strong takes,
but he's not the most fun guy to watch.
Okay, but what do you want?
You don't want mid-range?
I mean, you don't want somebody who can get every shot
that he wants, that everyone has to get out of the way
because he's gonna score 35 quietly, usually efficiently?
What are you laughing about, Billy?
I'm just not going through Bob Ryan's replies,
which is great, because someone tweeted out,
do people still eat baked potatoes?
And Bob Ryan said, you know know what I need to reply to
That he said dinner tonight
Then someone else said super serious question to people over the age of 50 still read newspaper
And he said what kind of stupid question is this?
Bob Ryan spending a lot of time on Twitter answering people's questions for some reason that aren't directed at him
He's just looking up questions to answer.
We used to play Explain Your Tweet with him a lot.
There was one that he had over the weekend
that was just a certified banger.
It was, I was on the beach between 16th and 17th Street
in North Beach, Haven, New Jersey,
listening to my transistor radio
when Jim Bunning threw his perfect game against the Mets
61 years ago today.
Where were you? Greg? Where were you?
I was at the Cleveland area. What was the date again? I'll tell you where I was. It
was Jim Bunnings perfect game against the Mets 61 years ago. You can't do this. You
made up that you saw Wilt Chamberlain's game when famously there's no video of it. He
did. He saw it. I mean, I made up it. 1961 just, you're just at this chance. I mean, you saw a little bit. Yeah. In 1961, well, I was six going on seven, so I don't have
a vivid memory. Again, Bob. No, it was 61 years ago. Bob Ryan hitting you. Good chance
you were home, I mean. Bobby. Bob Ryan hitting you with, who is this shithead? That one stings
if you're Titus. No. Yeah, he's been in the media game for 20 years and he's had a respectable career
that Bob should have been made aware of
over the last few years.
Someone tweeted out, am I the only person in America
who's never owned a pair of Crocs?
And Bob said, hell no.
Bobby.
I'd like to bring back, explain your tweets,
I'd like to bring back, Bob Ryan,
I heard, I was driving around this weekend,
I heard Peter Gammonons on the radio.
Telling stories.
Still doing it, huh?
Diamond notes.
I believe last weekend,
I don't know if this was a taped interview or not,
might have been Peter Gammons Day at Fenway Park.
Really?
I think so.
How did I miss that?
I'd go.
I'd go.
Well, speaking of older, not this old, but speaking of ESPN personalities or people
that you grew up on, Stu Gott, Max Kellerman is about to make his return and Max Kellerman has
been a prodigy in our business since he was 14 years old. And I'd be curious just people listening
to this, what they would think of Max Kellerman leaving
First Take and I guess probably taking some of the nuance with him because one
of the complaints that Stephen A had about Max Kellerman and getting him fired
was that Max was offering context to an argument show and he wanted to do an
argument show and since then it's become more and more of an argument show
although I guess we probably all know at this point
that Shannon Sharp is not likely to ever work
at ESPN again, right?
Like that's not.
I don't know.
Well, but I mean, I think we can reasonably assume
that Shannon Sharp would like it to look
like he has a chance to return.
I don't know that you can beat Disney
and allow any of what happened there.
Does he need to?
I mean, it helps to be on that platform during the week,
but Stephen A has made it.
I mean, I don't know how many people care about this,
but Stephen A just sort of works independently now.
He got the deal that allows him to just be on first take
and then do everything else, and in doing so,
first take has been a giant for a long time,
Max Kellerman fell by the wayside.
And I think we can say Stephen A profited off of his decision
there in every way in a way that was really good for Stephen A
and ESPN, but less good for Max Kellerman.
So I searched Max Kellerman on social media
because I saw he's calling a big time boxing fight
and it feels big in part because Max Kellerman is calling this fight.
It's his first boxing match in 24 months.
He's partnering back up with Jim Lampley who just himself returned from a six year hiatus
calling boxing matches.
You're saying Max makes the match feel bigger.
You get Lampley and Max together on a call.
Boxing has been missing Max together on a call. Boxing has been missing, those two on a call.
That's what, I know I grew up on those two voices
that speaks out long, Max Kellerman's been in the business
and he's still a young man.
But Max Kellerman, I was searching his name on social media
and there's a lot of positivity about,
man, we didn't realize how good we had it
when Max was over there.
And what's happened is, as Stephen A has leaned into the politics and sometimes going right to the
center, or at least not nearly as progressive as Max's takes were. Remember when Max was there,
a lot was going on in the country. It's not like less is going on now, but his voice.
One of the great insults and indignities
of Stephen A's career is on his show,
Terrell Owens saying on that show
that Max was blacker than Stephen A.
Max was often on the right side of these issues,
and the more prevalent they get to,
Stephen A is more and more comfortable
talking about politics on first take even, that man, perhaps they should have let it ride out a little bit
longer. That showed of age with some grace and Max's voice would have been a
little bit more pronounced and more appreciated as the times evolved and as
Stephen A's career also evolved. Peter Gammons day is January 9th. Was
proclaimed in 2009 so just 16 years off on your take.
Bob Ryan has defined himself as a Jersey guy
in the questions, not a Boston guy.
He replied to a question, do you like black coffee,
no sugar, no cream?
Bob Ryan has said, only way to go.
Then someone else tweeted,
no one truly loves cauliflower, right?
And he said, can't imagine.
Put it on the poll please, at LeBittard Show, does anyone truly love cauliflower, yes or no? right and he said can't imagine
What do you think Max Kellerman's price would be because everyone has a price What do you think Max Kellerman's price would be to call a Jake Paul fight?
Because I cannot imagine that Max Kellerman likes the Jake Paul
I cannot imagine that Max Kellerman likes the Jake Paul boxing
Circus and he views again as a boxing historian and a gatekeeper for boxing
But but why are you doing that views himself? He replaced Larry Merchant Larry Merchant was the longtime voice of boxing it's a big deal that Lampley and Kellerman are doing this fight and
This is as UFC has its worst year at the top of 2025
Diluted but in at least in part by some of the ESPN plus
Diluting of how many matches that they have on UFC boxing is trying to make some sort of comeback here and Max
Kellerman is purposely choosing the sport that he loves the most since being a prodigy from 14 years old to make a pretty loud return
after two years of silence have shown us what because super unusual for Max Kellerman to just disappear and
now return and have value in a new media economy as somebody who sat out the last two years and
Comes back pristine after first take
becomes something else in his absence.
So what do you think he would charge to do a fight?
Everyone's got a number.
Everyone has a number, but this is very much below him
in what he stands for as a boxing broadcaster.
What do you imagine Max makes per fight?
That's a quite, I don't, I wouldn't know.
I think because of contracts,
he never had the opportunity to call one of Jake's fights
because of different broadcast rights
and him being tethered to HBO at the time.
I can see him doing it.
And then when he was calling ESPN,
they didn't have the Jake Paul fights.
Every time that I looked up that he talked about Jake Paul,
he didn't really poo poo him,
to borrow a phrase from earlier.
He broke it down seriously and did toe the
line that some of these cards are really good for the sport. They get good boxing cards
there, especially the women's boxing game. So he has broken them down seriously. So I
think he would.
You think he'd do it?
I think he would. And look, this fight is being run by TKO, right? TKO has Logan Paul
as a wrestler in WWE presently. There's all sorts of rumors of them partnering up with the Saudis and doing
more of these boxing events and Max Kellerman has been brought into the fold.
So I imagine it's only a matter of time before he's calling one of these Paul
brother fights.
When I say Max Kellerman is a prodigy,
I believe he was on New York cable television as a boxing analyst at 14.
I believe he had a show at 14 years old and that was his introduction to media
and he is extraordinary on boxing. It's his favorite sport. I believe Marcellus Wiley
has called him a genius and I do believe that that is so of Max Kellerman. And so it was
interesting to watch the changes in first take over the last four years but also happy
to see that Max is returning and I would imagine with many opportunities. I would imagine that Max with Freedom can now grab
a number of different jobs that might be more fulfilling
than what he was doing in his earlier life.
I don't know what the contract language was.
Remember, he got bought out of his contract
and he hasn't done anything really for 24 months,
and it seemed as though he was satisfied sitting out
and seeing what the media landscape would be.
And I do think that people learn to appreciate him more
in his absence rather than him just moved on
to the next thing and try to stay in the cycle.
It's an interesting case study.
He was 16 when that show started, that's a fine.
Okay, is it a fine?
Do I deserve a fine?
16.
Yeah, it's a fine, fine.
Forgiveness too.
That's a big fine.
I'm not a young man, really, but I'm 39 years old.
And Max Kellerman was one of the voices of boxing
and known as a boxing historian when I was a little kid
watching documentaries about boxing.
And how old is Max?
He's barely, he's 51 years old.
It's crazy.
It doesn't seem like Billy has any interest
or enthusiasm for Max Kellerman's return.
No.
Well, he asked a question, no one answered it.
Hold on a second, that's not a fair thing to say.
He's asking what's his number.
I'm not throwing a party, hey it's a Max Kellerman
watch party because he's coming back
after being gone for two years.
I have no problem with Max.
I'm just asking if he would do a Jake Paul fight.
I agree with Billy.
I mean I'm not gonna watch a boxing match
because of who's calling it.
You know, I just am not that interested in it.
But you don't love boxing.
Well, I used to.
I used to.
Well, when I ask you.
We all used to.
But if you love boxing,
you're not watching for Max Kellerman,
you're watching for boxing.
It does feel bigger when he does it,
just like when Troy Aikman and Joe Buck
are doing Monday Night Football,
it feels like a bigger game.
The broadcasters make it feel bigger,
but you're not tuning in for the broad,
I mean, you've been saying that for years.
Anyone can be broadcasting, you're not tuning in for them.
People are tuning in for Canelo versus Crawford,
and this is a fight that people have wanted to see
for a long time, and you have Jim Gray
as a part of the broadcast, Mark Kriegel,
friend of the show, I think, on the broadcast.
This is a first fight that feels legit in quite some time.
One that people have been wanting to see and to have these voices from your past come back
who were always on the big fights, give it more legitimacy. When boxing has kind of become
a celebrity circuit and it's been Saudi cards and it's been big and gaudy and what production
can we put around this and make it feel bigger? It's been quite and gaudy and what can we make, what production can we put around this
and make it feel bigger?
It's been quite some time since people
have been wanting to see just two guys,
two pugilists going in a ring and fight it out.
Those guys on the call certainly make it feel bigger.
Greg, is there an announcer that you've actually
gone out of your way to watch?
Not, like because he's calling the game,
for me it's Vin Scully.
I would go out of my way to watch games I didn't care about because he was calling the game for me. It's Vince Cully I would go out of my way to watch games. Yeah, I actually believe you too. MLB extra endings.
Where the hell are you?
What chickens here?
It seems like half our chickens.
I can't believe what's happening.
What happened to all the chickens?
They can't be dissenting.
There can't be any.
There are no dissenting chickens.
I think you'd be shocked at the amount of people in our audience that had MLB extra
endings that went to bed with the LA Dodgers late game and Ben Scully just doing his thing.
By the way, huge, huge, huge update for Dan on Peter Gammon's day turns out the city of Boston Peter Gammon's day
That was the one that was declared in 2009
But Peter Gammon's did throw out the first pitch on June 15th Red Sox against the Yankees and it was declared by the Boston Red Sox
themselves Peter Gammon's day
And one with Boston, that's right.
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Don Lebatard!
You owe me everything!
You owe me everything!
You have added ten years, Mike Greer!
This man has!
That man! That man!
Who the hell are you?
Stugats!
I am!
Who the hell are you? Bullshit! You're a rude young man! Stugats. I AM WHO YOU SHOULD BE BANKING ME!
You're a rude young man.
You're a fool.
You're a fool.
I already called you a fool.
You can't call me a fool.
You're an idiot again.
It's a fool on.
You're an idiot twice.
You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped you.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. So that was big. Okay, so we've gone back to the wheelhouse. Please get me the sound from that day.
He loves to relive that day.
But I do want to for just a moment talk about, I was waiting for Tony because he's going
to be in Vegas this weekend and it has been a really disappointing year for UFC.
I've sort of checked out over the last many years on my fight game allegiances that Stugatz has made fun of, because I really have enjoyed over the years
the science of pitting mixed martial arts against each other, and also the lunacy that is making your living
fighting other human beings for money. And you have heard and seen my distaste for Dana White and all things UFC and chief among them is using and paying
that labor force 20% as he gets rich sloppy and powerful and
Now I'm reading reports that he doesn't even do the press conferences very much anymore because he's moved on to other things
And there has been a dilution of product
Where ESPN plus is asking you to pay for espn plus and then you got to pay for
pay-per-view and you still get commercials
and they're doing too many fights so they get
decent main events but they've got a problem right where they just sell us
omali and build him up and he's a fraud because they just need and they're
getting mexican you know giving a mexican fighter rodriguez fights that
he shouldn't have just because
they've got to get product out there and i've always loved boxing more but this
particular carnival is taken over.
And now boxing has been taken over by the Paul brothers,
where McGregor's tough.
UFC hasn't been the same since McGregor left.
I am stuck in an algorithm where I'm just
getting an assortment of McGregor Coke videos,
just McGregor on Coke, where it just highlights,
I'm stuck in an algorithm.
I can't stop watching them.
Is there any other kind?
No, I mean, it's just him clearly coped up
and and the sport of the record of this but here's what i wanted to talk about
the sport has not been the same he had seven of the top fights pay-per-view of
all time and legitimate star
goes into boxing makes it a circus you guys say that doesn't cheapen anything
he made a hundred million mayweather made three hundred million and somewhere
the pauls get rich and laugh but But the fight game, the arts, the people who love what the science
of this is, it gets engulfed by the circus. But I didn't want to go, as long as I have,
without mentioning the retirement of John Jones, one of the great athletes of my time
and one of the great disappointments. I do not understand how a fighter of that magnitude, one of the best pound for pound people I've ever seen in the fight game 50
years, how he would have the demons that he would have that would prevent him from, you
know, being remembered like George St. Pierre or Anderson Silva or whoever it is that you
consider the best of all time. He retired so quietly while looking like he was ducking
a heavyweight fight at the end of his career,
and it was not the punctuation that a champion
of that magnitude deserves, but his excellence
is just marred by the amount of medicating
that he was doing that made him reckless
and specific to the fight game as an individual brand
that has some demons, because how do you think
these people climb to the top of fighting
other human beings for a living?
There are gonna be demons all around the disciplines.
It could be posturing though, don't you believe?
He's taken extended leaves of absence,
and sometimes it's because of suspensions.
He has publicly been posturing for a mega fight
inside of the UFC.
It could be a part of that.
To your earlier point, there is a bit of a dip in stars.
They were running and they were building guys up,
guys like Izzy Adesanya, but then they kind of fall off.
We saw it recently, Sean O'Malley was thought to be a star.
He kind of falls off.
Right now, Chaporia, the guys aren't really,
Perea is probably the biggest star of that bunch
in terms of title holders right now.
They're trying to build guys up.
Successfully, I think, with Patti the Batty,
that's someone you should keep your eye on.
No, they did it successfully, but it was bogus,
and they do have a problem.
I don't want to bury this.
It's not being bogus with Patti the Batty.
I'm done doing that narrative.
He's proved his bona fides, and he's proved to be legit,
and now I think he's certainly worthy of it.
But I get the skepticism.
I was there too with the hype machine around him.
But this happens to the UFC. They have a lot of stars leave or retire or fall off and they have to build
back up and I think what's happening right now is one of those build back up phases.
Isn't it skeptical when any fighter or boxer who's aging says he's retiring?
Yes, but he's 37. This is a fight for him to avoid. The last seven months would have been the time
to sort of cash in on this,
and when it comes to negotiating with Dana White,
I expect the labor to perpetually be screwed.
It's the business model.
The Aspen Hall fight is one of those fights
that could help breathe life into UFC.
I also don't blame him for avoiding it,
and at 37, that's not a weight class
that I wanna see him at.
Like, he's the best light heavyweight I've ever seen.
I don't need to see him challenged as a heavyweight.
He chose the right path with two guys
that he knew he could beat the last two fights.
He also had a pretty bad ass send off,
if that's the last time that we saw him.
And he's the GOAT.
He's the greatest of all time, well within his rights.
Steve Bay was retired when he beat him.
He doesn't want to fight the type of the heavyweight.
If I were him at 37, I wouldn't want to fight the top heavyweight either.
That's fair.
He's at an age where I think his legacy is pretty well cemented because it's already
way complicated anyways.
I think everyone would concede, even if he loses to Aspinall, that that's the greatest
fighter they've ever seen at the height of his game. He he's still a what if cautionary tale, which is wild.
Ariel Hawani says, I'm tired of beating around the bush.
I don't wanna hear the GOAT talk when it comes to John.
I'm sorry, you cannot be the GOAT.
If you have multiple PED infractions on the record,
you cannot be the GOAT if you didn't wanna do
what others did for you.
Time honored tradition, you fight the top contenders.
Not only was Tom Aspinall the top contender,
he was the interim champion for almost two years.
Is that unfair?
No, that's more than fair.
No, it is fair, but it is also, to me,
a little bit difficult to do legacy talk
on someone that I'm saying to you is a pure talent.
What I'm watching, really loving the fighting game,
is as skillful and artful a magician as I've ever seen
do it marred by an assortment of drug infractions and recklessness and now at the end punctuation
that feels like cowardice when this man was afraid of no one. This man had legit, you can say he's
not the goat if you want, but this was a man everyone
feared fighting.
No one knew how to beat this human being.
The only way he could be beaten was his own demons with his recklessness away where the
drugs would get a hold of him.
Whose balls are juiced?
We were talking about signature moves in athletics and who has a move that sticks in your mind.
John Jones spinning back elbow.
Just the most ferocious weapon in the history of combat sports.
Regardless, Tony's gonna be in Vegas this weekend
doing the UFC fight because he has made that
into a hustle around, he really loves what he is,
what he's doing on Saturdays.
Really popular, it does well too.
And it's a fun watch you learn a lot
It's not your traditional ooze and Oz of a watch along you're getting really good analysis as well
Remember Dana White told us that UFC would be bigger than the NFL
No, I said it would be the biggest sport in the world and internationally. It's a giant like it look
I know everyone listening to this knows what my problems are politically and otherwise with the UFC Dana White is a bully it's been it's been a bummer to see him rise
to power on a carnival Barker crusade where he's got a monopoly and what gets
chewed up is the athlete because it's no unions and you know you got you got
you got champions like living in the car and stuff I don't I don't think I'm
over swell I that's probably an over sell
and I shouldn't say it that way if I don't have it on me,
but there are just details on how it is
even these champions have to work
because the pay's not good enough.
This is a brutal way to make a living.
We lose sight of it, right?
When you get all the pay per view
and what you're throwing into the machine,
more fights than ever, is a diluted product
and it's all meat.
It's go fight each other and injure each other.
You're fighting for money.
It's caged, barbaric spectacle.
And I've always loved the bravery and people willing to do that in front of others when
it's just them, no teammates, and you're fighting your fear in front of people.
It's gladiator shit.
Can I throw a theory at you?
When does the UFC media rights deal up?
Spires at the end of the year.
This is a pretty good leverage point for John Jones
because how does Dana wanna impress
a new broadcast partner with a brand new deal?
I'm sure every negotiation that he's having
with a potential broadcast partner is,
can we get the Aspen all John Jones fight?
If you're John Jones, now's a perfect time
to pull this move and say, I'm done forever because it maximizes your own leverage as UFC is negotiating
possibly invoking your own name in these broadcast. Do you know how crazy it has to
make the fighters in UFC to see McGregor make a hundred million dollars over
there to see Nganu make more than he ever made in his uh... fighting career in u f c
boxing spectacle
go get the pay-per-view money it's been jarring to see the business jostled like
that
on uh... both fronts
do you guys i know a lot of people think of me also is whenever i say anything
anti-e s p and they're just assuming it comes from a source of bitterness but
when it comes to the e s p app and the complaints MMA fans have of
you're making me sign up for a windows 98 app and then I'm just signing up for
the right. I don't want ESPN plus.
I'm just signing up for the right to then pay per view.
What is a now diluted product that they blame ESPN for?
Is that a fair criticism? I'm not on ESPN
Plus so I don't know how advanced it is or it isn't.
You get plenty of free cards that come with just your ESPN Plus membership and that also
gives you all the other sports that are on ESPN Plus, well within their rights to charge
a premium for a premium live event like a big time UFC card. It has been rumored that there's not gonna be one standalone home that they're gonna
try to divvy up the television rights.
TKO kind of learning a little bit from their WWE side of the business.
So it'll be interesting to see what kind of promises he's making.
What is their flagship home?
What kind of cards will go on other broadcasters?
Will those other broadcasters feel like their second banana when it comes to these conversations? It's combat sports. You
can't really guarantee, the only thing that you can guarantee is bigger names
and right now they've got a name problem. Can you guys please find for me and also
it doesn't help when all the guys from Russia want to take it to the ground and
ground and pound you and it's not an entertaining style. Style of fights haven't been great.
But that's why Patty the Batty,
you gotta kind of root for him.
At first I was like, this is all phony.
They're just feeding them cheap guys
to try to get them over and do this Conor McGregor redux.
Now he shut me up promptly in the last two fights.
I feel like we have lost Billy and Chris.
Chris is yawning actively.
The old timey baseball player has no interest.
Don't leave me and Greg out.
Yeah, no, Stugats wasn't interested in this either.
I will say, if you're looking to us for information in sports,
since Stugats said the Mets were the best team in baseball,
they've lost nine of 10.
That's unfortunate.
And yesterday on the show, we gave you one sure bet.
We gave you Trevor Rogers of the Orioles is going to give up some runs,
and he threw eight shutout innings allowed three hits
Best start as an Orioles
Shut out the potent Rangers like truly terrible advice from his show
Best start of his career he just shouted about
I said of Trevor Rogers my only analysis of Trevor Rogers is yes yes yes when you throw from the left side
You can be big like that throw hard and have a ERA of five for the rest of your life in the big leagues
Eight innings of shutout ball
from a dominant Trevor Rogers over the Rangers.
Lowering his season ERA to 1.3 something.
But last year, that ERA, woof.
That is three starts.
I incidentally, if you're looking for your baseball
information here or on a broadcast tomorrow night
on YouTube with Tim Kirch and from six to 10 p.m.
said last year the Orioles would be good for a decade. I also had the analysis of the Orioles are gonna be so
good the Yankees will be closer to the bottom of the division than the top. The
Orioles now have no pitching except for Trevor Rodgers. No team in sports is good
for a decade like every year someone wins a championship and you're like you know what
this team they're the favorites win next, next year they finish like eight seed.
I just thought Farm System and Arms,
they had so many young people.
Warriors kinda did it.
So many young people.
There's some teams that have done it.
Warriors kinda pulled it off.
Lakers, Celtics, 80s.
I think locally you have a team
that's built for it, certainly.
The Heat kinda did it.
Patriots did it.
Let's go to Greg Cody, Greg Cody Day.
Orioles in last place.
Was it Fort Myers, was it where? Minor league baseball?
Yes.
Here is Greg Cody after 50, no wait,
70 years living in South Florida,
still having trouble with the Latin names.
Stepping to the plate, number 13,
Yeltsin and Karski and Carnation!
I just misread it.
That's a tough one.
That happens, yeah.
Just like Legler. It's tricky.
Probably a typo.
I also have a sad news station promoting Greg Cody night.
Greg Cody night.
Okay.
Saturday it's bark in the park night at the Fort Myers miracle game.
The miracle take on the Lakeland flying tigers at six o'clock.
Six o'clock.
Ooh, an oatmeal.
It's the oatmeal.
The dog friendly event includes doggy pools, adoptable dogs as well, even treat bags for
your own puppies.
It's also Buddy the Elf night, so if you dress as Buddy the Elf, you get a special ticket
offer.
There's a Santa hat giveaway, a car giveaway, and it's Greg Coat night.
Ha!
Cody.
Cody night.
Okay. That is the greatest-y night. Okay. Ha ha ha ha!
That is the greatest promotion I've ever heard.
Buddy the elf!
That is so much better than Tim Legler's
Pretty Interesting.
Bury the lead.
That is how you sell an upcoming event.
I'm so sad that I missed everything that was going on.
Saturday, it's bark in the park night
at the Fort Myers Miracle Game.
The Miracle take on the Lakeland Flying Tigers
at six o'clock.
Six o'clock.
Ooh, an oatmeal.
Let's see oatmeal.
The dog friendly event includes doggy pools,
adoptable dogs as well,
even treat bags for your own puppies.
It's also Buddy the Elf night.
So if you dress as Buddy the Elf,
you get a special ticket offer.
There's a Santa hat giveaway,
a car giveaway,
and it's Greg Coat night.
Who's Greg Coat?
Greg Coat night.
What an amateur.
Okay.
You should retire that guy.
Greg, can you just lay out for a second
so we can get the full comedy of the local broadcast
instead of just barreling in chest first?
I mean, we'd already played it three times.
You don't know who Buddy the elf is?
From Elf, the movie with Will Ferrell
No, it came out after the else. What's your favorite color? All right, you just criticized that guy's broadcasting. Yes
as you should
I
Got a right of it. Yeah, this broadcast had four things to sell in front of Greg Kote night.
Which is ridiculous. What an insult.
You are not the main event here. They can't even get your name right.
If I were writing this as comedy, okay, if you gave me this as fiction,
I'd have indigestion interrupted by oatmeal in the middle of my broadcast.
Indigestion. And then I would also have the comedically great reaction
of the broadcasters trying to do chumminess
while not knowing the name of the headliner.
An adopted dog.
After Buddy the Elfin, an assortment of adopted dogs.
Saturday, it's bark in the park night
at the Fort Myers Miracle Game.
The Miracle take on the Lakeland Flying Tigers
at six o'clock.
Six o'clock.
Ooh, an oatmeal.
It's the oatmeal.
The dog friendly event includes doggy pools,
adoptable dogs as well, even treat bags
for your own puppies.
It's also Buddy the Elf night.
So if you dress as Buddy the Elf,
you get a special ticket offer.
There's a Santa hat giveaway, a car giveaway,
and it's Greg Coat night.
Coat.
Coat.
Coat night. And Greg Coatknight.
Amateur.
Off in the distance.
The best part of that that I forgot about.
You did it again.
In that clip, a throwaway line is also a car giveaway.
Somebody in our suite, one of our friends, the guy he brought, won the car.
That's right.
And we felt so uncomfortable because we were like, we the special like we he gave away the car the guy
Rejected the car. It was a used car. I know it's still
thousands of dollars
Starts in the beginning what happened? There's a car
What kind of car was
I don't remember it being a used car. It might be I'm not saying you're wrong about that
I don't remember it being a used car. It might be, I'm not saying you're wrong about that. I don't remember that detail.
It was just a car giveaway that in the seventh inning,
anyone who had a ticket.
How do you not remember that detail?
It's an important detail.
And they announced the name,
and the people making the announcement were in our suite.
I think my dad made the announcement.
My dad picked the winning thing.
So when the winner comes from the suite,
that the person, we all were just like.
Suspicious, suspicious.
So the guy was literally like,
the guy was like, I'm good, I don't need the car.
I don't need to use car.
Because it was a $700 clunker.
No, it was not.
It was like a nice truck.
Now we're getting details.
Now we're getting.
Your friend just gave away a truck.
Yes, a friend of a friend.
$700 clunker is what you're,
there's some details missing.
Who's Shams, who's Barry Jackson,
whose information is right? Cause it doesn't sound like your information is right
100% right we rejected a car the only dispute here is whether the car was used. This is what I want
I want you to play it again. I want everyone to lay out because
Thank you for not laying out just immediately ignores what I'm saying doesn't hear anyone except his own voice in his head
Can you play for me again?
Greg Cody toward the end of this? I need
you guys to listen to how the anchors get out of this.
Saturday, it's bark in the park night at the Fort Myers Miracle Game. The Miracle take
on the Lakeland Flying Tigers at six o'clock. Six o'clock. Ooh, an oatmeal.
It's the oatmeal. The dog friendly event includes doggy pools,
adoptable dogs as well, even treat bags for your own puppies. It's also Buddy the Elf
night. So if you dress as Buddy the Elf, you get a special ticket
offer.
There's a Santa hat giveaway, a car giveaway, and it's Greg Coat night.
Cody.
Cody night.
Okay.
Is that okay?
Nine things he advertised.
Nine.
Okay. Nine things he advertised, nine. One of my favorite things John Oliver does
is just local newscasts.
We're gonna miss them when they're gone.
Gonna miss them.
You think they're going?
I don't think so.
I actually think there's more of a demand
for hyper local stuff, given how everything is presented.
It was a used car.
See?
Of course it was. A $700 clunker you called it.
The shell of a car.
Where'd you get that from by the way?
That doesn't have an engine.
It was a used car courtesy of Dixie Buick GMC.
There you go.