The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Return Of The Mustache

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Paul Skenes and Shohei Ohtani had a showdown last week, but it made Dan realize something important: the mustache is BACK. Then, the Dan Hurley saga seems to be coming to an end, but the crew was left asking questions. Plus, Ron Magill, resident animal apologist, is here to discuss the rodeo, chimp dialects, and other fascinating details of the animal kingdom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast. I know that I have had a hard time over the last few years trying to get you guys to get interested in baseball, but there was something that happened last week at the top of the sport where the pirates have a phenom who throws everything a hundred miles an hour and he's facing Otani, Paul Skeens is his name and he's all mustache and arm and the first time up he just throws three fastballs past Otani that swings and misses through all of them and then the next time up Otani hits a bomb to center field and it was just great to watch them at the top of the sport.

But one of the things I thought of when I thought when I saw skeins is and I've seen I've noticed this recently and I didn't know nobody told me the mustache has made a comeback baseball it's all over baseball but stewart skinner the edmonton goalie this mustache when did this happen that the mustache that nobody informed me that baseball was going with a bunch of ridiculous mustang not just baseball i think young people in general just go with mustaches they're back in i see everywhere crazy as tony brought it back i think it started being back a few years ago

And honestly, I think it's like it's at its peak right now now if you're doing the mustache like you're on the tail end Of it like you better do it quick because it's soon to be gone. I think Okay, I'm gonna grow a mustache. I can do that. Can yeah, I can grow a mustache Yeah, would you please let's take you up on it right now. Just for attention and clicks, the Greg Cody, the Greg Cody Show. It takes time. Featuring Greg Cody. How long do you imagine, I imagine it will come in

very slowly for you. I don't think you're gonna have a bushy, it's gonna take months for you to have a mustache. Well, here's the thing, I cannot grow a beard. Like, it would take me the rest of my life to grow a decent beard and it would be awful looking. I can grow a goatee pretty well. Like my mustache will come in. A coatee. Yeah a Greg coatee. Very nice. So I'm gonna do that. I make a commitment to this show and to the Greg Cody Show podcast that we're gonna have

a mustache like Paul Skeen's mustache. I want to look like a guy in an 1890s barbershop quartet. That's the kind of mustache I'm going for. Greg that picture of you where you have dark brown hair from the Herald I want to say maybe 30 or 40 years ago. Do you not have a mustache in that picture? I feel like I picture you if you photoshopped a mustache onto it. I would believe it You know what? I definitely went had a mustache in my 20s and 30s. And then I was coming out of a Denny's one night and wearing my mustache and a stranger

said that I looked like Groucho Marx. And from that day forward, I shaved my mustache and I've never had another mustache. Not that there's anything wrong with Groucho Marx. So we're gonna, unretired after 50 years is what you're telling us. I am gonna... This is excellent.

Cultivate a mustache. This is very exciting. Yeah. You continue to be a star in all the ways that this show needs. Ha ha ha. I mean, you guys could do the... you all three could do it. Let's all grow a mustache. Dan, you kind of have a mustache.

You could just shave the beard. Well, it takes me like two days. I challenged Dan to shave all of his spatial hair except the mustache. Yeah Many years it's covered by another chin. He doesn't have a jawline. That's why he has a yeah, I just did that. That's not Joke he was just being a jerk. Yeah, I just did it and then you did it poorly as well second second He was making sure everyone got it though Yeah, I had to interpret because we use it you weren't listening is what happened You were you weren't you were just your own voice is something that you love so much

I'm my voice you get lost in it. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. Did any of you Did any of you? That's Greg Cody laughing at a cartoon mustache. PFPI championship. I haven't seen Chris's jawline in a while either. Interesting. Rough. Hate those photos when the eyes turn red. It's like, yeah.

Look at Christopher pretending to be proud at winning the PFPI Dad's Dynamics trophy. That is me winning. Dad's Dynamics Cup. He was so embarrassed. Chris, it is so clear in that photograph that you are ashamed to be at the center of those proceedings.

Like, you are tolerating with a degree of persistence and pity your father's whims. You are wearing your father's pride uncomfortably and you're just enduring that for posterity. It's the photo that you will have long after he's gone. But at least someone dressed properly for the magnitude of that event. Well done, Greg.

Thank you. That's the Groucho March era. When did Tom Selleck get glasses? Look at the size of those glasses. They look like television sets. You mentioned Tom Selleck. Do you know the name of? Tom Selleck's Autobiography it's out in bookstores now. No, you never know

Property I couldn't believe it when I saw Tom Selleck is stealing Tom Selleck is it stole your material. Yeah bad book title Good saying but a bad book title. Did you know Mark Harmon's book title is called that kind of thing? No way Everybody's stealing my material thing anything. You know a good book title the pride of a lion it is Yeah, well, I'm sure Jessica was making that up and what a great Father's Day gift the pride of the lion would be I'm still on where you're making that up just because I believed you. I'm pretty never told a lie Tom sell its books called you never know though yours is YA. Yeah, you never know Like anything but the pride of the lion speaking of that would make a great Father's Day gift

You know go to Amazon go to wherever you buy books and grab it. Why would Mark Harmon have a book called that guy? You know, why would Selig have a book called You Never Know? I mean, come on, come up with a better title. If we're being honest, Jess, my story, which was true, is no less absurd than your story, which isn't. But people say, you never know. No one really says that kind of thing. That ain't got nothing. That's true. Yeah, run the words together. That ain't got nothing. But people say you never know no one really says that kind of thing

Run the words together anything it's got to be one word that is correct I want to ask you guys the question because I found everything that just recently happened with Dan Hurley A little bit confusing so I'm gonna go from the beginning here a little bit confusing. So I'm going to go from the beginning here. Shams reports one thing. We trust Woes and Shams. Right? They're the information guys. They get all the information. There's two guys. There's no third place. Like whoever's third place, distant third. These are the two information guys we trust. But every once in a while, their information is not the same and it's weird and it's never held against either one of them because we know how credible both of them are but shams reports that jj reddick is the front runner and there's reporting all over the place that jj

reddick is picking out his assistant staff and then jj reddick is asked about it and his response is i'm not commenting on shams's report until after the finals because he's respecting the nba process of nothing gets in the way of the finals i thought that was confirmation jj reddick is going to be the lakers coach when he wouldn't comment within tonight in saying then out of nowhere dan hurley appears on how many people know that world wrote

a book with hurley's father this is a legendary basketball family they uh... woges instrumental in the way the Hurley story has been told to America for a long time. This is a dad who coached at St. Anthony's for 51 years, a high school coaching legend, and both his kids coach as well. By the way, it was called Me Maximum, the title of that book.

Oh. I'm sure. Dan Hurley goes, this was a surprise to me i don't know if it was to the rest of you but to suddenly hear a report that dan harley from wold now dan harley is the front runner for the lakers job even though everyone kind of knows that the hurley's are about regional basketball uh... greatness there about that area of the country and what they represent to that area of the country and what they represent to that

area of the country and Dan Hurley's wife doesn't want to leave and everyone's assumed he's going to stay there but the thing that I found interesting is the Lakers search around for whatever it is that comes with maybe LeBron maybe not LeBron but this is top five franchise anywhere in American sports this Laker franchise they don't get turned down on stuff they go through a lot of coaches though i'll tell you that i mean by the reason that they do but i i i the thing that i will tell you again it's not so easy to do stugatsa is an atlanta comes in and flames out or sacramento comes in and flames out uh... how hard it is over different regimes to

stay at the top of where the lakers have been always matter always matter always matter cuz they've got uh... not just the coach they've always got the star they have to prepare for something now after the star and i was of the impression from the initial reporting all the bronze gonna choose his coach is going to try and get a son there is going to be running the laker franchise because as you donna says lancers all of this is posturing he'll never leave l a i don't know if you guys saw live stream of kevin hart talking to lebron james

uh... with trusky at this was this was last night one of the things that happened is uh... lebron was yelling at kevin hart hate they people are hearing me say the n word right uh... like they didn't hear that right and kevin hart said no i would never do that you. And the only reason I know it is because it was just done to him. Stu Gatz here. Summertime is here, which means travel season is upon us. If you're like me and love to travel during the warmer months, the first thing you worry about before traveling is how safe will my home be while I'm away? I no longer worry about that. Now

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protect monitoring at simply safe dot com slash D L B. There's no say like simply say Don LeBattard. We gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up. Uh oh. He doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see that mother effing on it. Can we bother, are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on.

Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I gotta go to work. Good night. This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugats. ["Stugats"] the bronchies deeply california l a now uh... they are trying to conquer what's left of

hollywood and hollywood is in shambles okay what's left of hollywood because the c o's don't actually know what they're doing in the modern age with the streaming the pretending but they don't actually know they are crucifying the entertainment industry is brutal but the bronze in it the way patients in it and he's running all these meetings where all i want to be the bottom thirty-five on my own about c a a middle manager i can make deals in this town

and what they're building in los angeles is for after basketball but he's still hugely vast valuable right now more valuable that franchise and it is to him when they go after dan hurley my first thought was does that ever work does the college coach doing that ever work the popular college coach you really think somebody's got a strategy

in college is going to come in the pros and popovich isn't going to know what to do against it with women yama it's gonna be all know dan hurley system it's gonna kill like it did in college does it ever work larry brown that's your example yeah go ahead give me a second one i don't have one yeah it's gonna be hard because larry brown is the example and he coached everywhere fifty different teams but i understand why dan hurley's popular i just don't get the idea that he would come to the pros and be better than everybody else but then i just don't get the idea that he would come to the pros and be better than everybody else but that what i didn't get also is you're

gonna offer him less than montee williams montee williams gonna make more in detroit than this that then this star is going that's what the lakers offer is when the coaching salaries have exploded where steve carl went from i have no experience to five years twenty five million dollars and now his extension is thirty eight million for two years your offer to try and get the two-time champions seismic higher we're gonna replace lebron with leadership watch what we do here with coaching the next

step is dan hurley's gonna show us the way we're gonna do with the coach you're gonna pay him less than Monty Williams? He would have been, had he accepted the offer, the eighth highest paid coach in the NBA. It tells me, Dan, that the Lakers, for whatever reason, never really wanted him to be the head coach. Because if you really wanted him to be the head coach

and you want him to move away from an area of the country where he has spent his entire life and really is given no indication he's ever going to leave that area of the country, then you make him the offer that Woj originally reported, which was north of a hundred million dollars. So you think that they lowballed him intentionally? That's Dugatsch. I don't think any of what he said. No, I don't think the Lakers do this embarrassment because they thought that that wasn't going

to be enough money. That's Dugatsch's opinion of my so you know you think then what that lebron stepped in and said no i'd know what what i'm looking at is i'm confused by what it is that's presently happening because i think that dan hurley had no intention whatsoever of ever leaving that that is a big public show of how is it that i go ahead and get to the saban stuff here because i'm in college basketball i like being in college basketball in this is a negotiating move we will hear from him

on how tempted he was cuz he has had this itch re said before that that the ego of trying yourself in the pros is something that are calls him i don't believe that this would be a money decision given that they were already doubling what they were guaranteeing him stuff and they were doubling his money i thought the law offer came because nobody seems to understand that the lakers are a mom and pop business that jeannie bus doesn't have other businesses the fact that that's a great american franchise with that kind of value i can't believe all of that is still allowed to prosper

given that that's a mom-and-pop store They don't have other businesses to get money from so they have to lowball somebody I don't think like I don't think the Lakers are what they look like as gloss That's what I was gonna ask you Dan because to me it just kind of seemed like they were being cheap not that they were Trying to intentionally be declined by a college coach Well, that would make them look bad, but so does being cheap, I guess. It seems to me what would make them look bad is handing J.J. Reddick one of the most coveted jobs anywhere in sports.

And so I think you have to at least give the appearance that you're going after more qualified candidates, bigger names. Shams is now reporting that he was never the number one candidate. And I go back to the beginning here. I don't know what's actually true about some of what's happening here stood out but i will tell you that when the information guys and the coveted people in sports are all wrapped up in getting out there whatever the message needs to be

so that we can negotiate in public what was thrown into the news stream during the nbf finals during the nbf finals is the big college coach going to the big marquee franchise the same thing jj reddick was trying to avoid because they don't like this getting in the way of things the story broke and the information is coming differently from the two

information guys and hurley just got himself a raise and he just did so with the author of his father's book that's what just happened publicly thrown into the media stream does he need the leverage I'm asking you does he need the leverage really like if you wanted to raise an extension, he could have just asked you, Kyle, right? He's won back to back national championships. How does that one generally go with employers?

I'm gonna stay here longer than my... Just asking for more money. Or you show, generally speaking, the way you show your employer your value is by having someone else point out your value. I'm just asking if he needs leverage. This is a guy who's won back to back national championships. I think it's also fair to ask, is the Lakers job better than the Yukon job right now?

For him specifically, given his family ties on the East Coast and his history there and the chance to chase history at Yukon, the Lakers are kind of a mess right now. They do not seem like a desirable place to go if you're someone with all the job security in the world and a lot of money living in Connecticut I just what happens in two years when they're bad you just get fired and then your previous dream job is not going to be up for you to take him anymore well when you talk about what happens in two years the the part that wraps up the whole story this This is a prestige franchise that has helped to build this sport. It gets its stars. It makes its coaches stars when

they win. The idea that the Lakers in two years would have had either nothing or college coach coaching nothing would make the lakers far different than what they've been for forty years in that sport because they always turn it over and so i ask you about the future of the lakers the oldest player in the league controls the entirety of their economy if lebron leaves uh... i'd

maybe they build around anthony davis or maybe they send him off and start over and that's what the plan would have been with dan hurley but it is much less then what it is the lakers have been for the last forty years but it's not every year they're in and out of it when they're in last place they still got colby's retirement or like they think they've always got some fine ways to say always got something to make the business run but when you say they've always got ways to stay relevant what's plan b after lebron leaves i ask you

but what is it as you look forward to well for any uh... yeah as to got this is the part that i'm asking you about is are you realizing what the difference in paths are when the two information guys are telling you one of them says the path is dan hurley whatever he's building the others jj reddick those are not the same thing but what what is the plan for one of the most storied franchises in the history of sport but i mean woege wasn't wrong they offered him a contract they were going after him well he was one of the most storied franchises in the history of sports. But I mean, Woge wasn't wrong.

They offered him a contract. They were going after him. Well, he was wrong at the dollars, but he wasn't wrong. No, wait a minute. I'm not saying, well, how can you be wrong when you're in the middle of creating all of it? Like what's the, he created it. He forced the Lakers to offer him a contract.

He didn't do that. He reported that he was the target and then they offered him a contract. So he was right about that. I'm not even saying Woge looks bad here. I'm just showing you how the sausage is made. This is the way the business is now, all of this is changing and nobody cares about how it is, does the sausage taste good? These are the two guys who get it done. The two guys, the way that they get their information isn't the way we used to do any of this stuff I

Wonder what we'll do if JJ reddick turns it down and gets a big raise at ESPN What what then because that would everyone using the Lakers as leverage? Well, how about that one Jeff Van Gundy? I think wasn't he told Jeff Van Gundy wasn't he told that part of the reason he was let go is because of the dangers of him taking a coaching job. Dock Rivers used that that's a great position to get a great job. I would like to announce my candidacy for the Lakers head coaching job as well. Gregg Cody needs to apply for to replace JJ Reddick on the broadcast. I'm gonna let my mustache come in.

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It's a Tuesday. StuGuts! Here's your guide. Greg Cody with Back in My Day. Adultery! This is the Dunn- Lebatar Show with the StuGats. Jessica just whispered to me moments ago, now there's a mustache, because we were talking about mustaches

and that mustache right there is about 50 years old. That's, is that mustache indeed a half a century old, Ron McGill? It's getting there. It's 48 years old. Wow that mustache indeed a half a century old, Ron McGill? It's getting there. It's 48 years old. Wow, congrats. We should have a celebration at 50. We should do a big celebration for the mustache. Are you happy that baseball and other sports have made the return of the mustache something that makes you feel less alone now?

Yeah, I think so. I remember the time, you know, remember when the Oakland A's, Raleigh Fingers, that whole team, that was a big mustache time. That was a great time. It's back though. You know this, right? I just learned earlier in the show today that the mustache is back.

I'd seen them pop up throughout baseball and I was confused by it. Why are these young people who are very athletic and good wearing ridiculous mustaches? But it's here. Why are mustaches ridiculous, Dan? I mean, they all look ridiculous. Well, but it's here. Why are mustaches ridiculous, Dan? I mean, they all look ridiculous. Well, thank you so much.

Not all mustaches, but the baseball players I'm looking at, they all look like they're purposely going for ridiculous. Well, some of them really, I don't think, have enough to grow a good mustache yet. Some of them are still too young. But, you know, a mustache, when properly grown, properly filled in, is a remarkable trait. To be fair, some of them are growing them ironically, but Ron's is very earnest. It is a very earnest mustache. His is ironic.

Oh boy. No? I went back and checked those A's teams. He was right about Raleigh fingers. I thought he got caught up at Raleigh fingers with mustache and you know, thought the whole team had mustaches. But Ron was right. I was wrong. Catfish, Hunter, Gene, tennis, they all had mustaches. Reggie Jackson, they all had mustaches. Resplendent. And now they're back. Let's talk about other things. Let me show you this video from the rodeo. It's out of Oregon. I don't know if you've seen this. Oh, I have. Let's talk about other things. Let me show you this video from the rodeo.

It's out of Oregon. I don't know if you've seen this. Oh, I have. That's scary. A bull named Party Bus was doing laps to God Bless the USA by Lee Greenwood. And it was the final bull ride of the night. And then this ends up happening.

He jumped the barrier like a freaking show horse. This one right over that fence. Over the fence, through the concession stand. Oh, Lord have mercy. He jumped the barrier like a freaking show horse. He goes right over that fence. Over the fence, through the concession stand. Oh Lord have mercy. There's a lot of sphincter muscles that loosened up right there. Out to the parking lot.

Oh Jesus. Oh he tossed that lady like a piece of styrofoam. Oh my God. Yes. Oh Lord have mercy. Oh my God. Yes. Is she okay?

Well three people were injured is what they say, but there are not enough details here and the professional rodeo cowboys association says, quote, while rodeo is a highly entertaining sport on very rare occasions, it can also pose some risk. And I don't think I've ever asked you this. Why is rodeo still a thing? You know, I don't know. I think it comes from just the old macho, you know, ranchers, the guys who out out there and, you know, had to work animals that way to work the ranch.

And it became kind of an offshoot of that. And it's part of a culture really. It's part of a culture not necessarily that I'm all fond of. What I'm amazed at looking at that video, those people didn't even move. These people not see this thousand pound bull running at them? That woman who got flipped, she never even flinched before she got flipped. Look at that video. I don't understand it. I don't understand how they didn't move. I don't either.

Is it better to just be completely boneless and like liquified when you're being hit by a bull? Or is it better to tense up? Hey, bull! It's better to get the hell out of the way. That's the better thing to do. You always tell us to stare the animals down. You tell us to stare it down. Don't panic. Don of the way. That's the better thing to do. You always tell us to stare the animals down. You tell us to stare it down. Don't panic, don't run away.

That's the bear, not the bull. Not a bull, Stu gots. It's a bear. How do we keep track of these things? Understand, when you look at a bull, guys, what does a bullfighter do to get the bull come at him? He waves the red thing, right? He's making, hey, hey, hey.

He's going like, hey bear, but hey bull, but with the bull, it means come get me, and the bull does. It's different animals. I read that the woman who got flipped ended up getting released from the hospital He's going like hey bear, but hey bull, but this with the bull it means come get me and the bull does Different animals I read that the woman who got flipped ended up getting released from the hospital and went back to the rodeo the next day wow Brave I did hear that nobody nobody had life-threatening injuries or any long-term injuries They're just a couple of bumps and bruises But those people are all very lucky because that that bull was on a roll. How rare is the bull death? The bull related

human death? I think it's pretty rare, you know, unless you get severely gored every now and then you hear the people running with the bulls in Spain. There's been a couple of deaths in history of those things. Another, you know, reflection of humanity being stupid. But know it's rare that they're killed by a bull but you know there have been people paralyzed have been people gored it's there's some really serious injuries that can happen from them oh god what what they don't even look it's just a like bowling pins what is that ten per year ten per year Dan okay thank you you got Ron that's not an attack right that's just a panicked animal, correct?

Yeah, that's exactly. That's an animal running, get out of my way. That's an animal running, get out of my way is what that animal's doing. Those people didn't move. I still can't believe it. I've looked at that video 20 times and those three people stood there like bowling pins. Like what, you think the bull's going to run around you? But when does a bull want to fight though, Ron?

Because that is just all the just all you're telling me is that's the behavior of a giant, deadly animal that it doesn't know it's being giant and deadly. It's just scared. It's certainly scared, but a scared animal can be a very dangerous animal. Don't think that anytime an animal comes at you, that's always saying, oh, macho,

and I'm gonna take you out because I know I can. It's a reflex of a defensive action is what it's happening Ron that bull is doing just that I don't mean this as a joke question is there any significance of the fact that woman who is wearing red it could be it could be I mean you and we all know how the bullfighter wears the red cape to get that bull to come at him. There's a very interesting article on nature.com that reports that some animals calls are specific to individuals similar to a person's name and the headline is, do elephants have names for each other? Yeah that just came out of National

Geographic and they show that they do and this has especially been documented with mothers and their calves, that mothers make sounds that basically relate to the name of the calf. These sounds are so individualized that they are basically saying the name of the calf. And you know, I wholeheartedly believe that. We've talked many times about elephants, how incredibly intelligent they are, how incredibly social they are, how they communicate with each other. It's a very social animal.

So yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all that they have names for each other and that they call them by their names. I'd like you to meet, ah, and this is my other son. That's a cow, okay, that's a cow. That's a really bad cow there, Chris. Ah.

No, elephants are much different. Ron, I saw a video of a drive-through safari in Texas where they were kind of taking a family through or whatever and a giraffe went and picked up a toddler out of the back of a pickup truck it looked like. How far was that going to go with that giraffe had the parent not intervened? Not far, the giraffe was not doing that

in an aggressive way at all. The giraffe was looking for food. She put the food close to her chest and the giraffe grabbed the t-shirt by accident and once he lifted the kid up, the giraffe just dropped the kid. The giraffe did not drop the kid because anybody hit it or anybody attacked or anybody screamed. Giraffe realized, oh, this is a lot heavier than that, you know, whatever food I was trying to get and just dropped it. That's not an aggressive move by a giraffe. Giraffe aggression is done when they swing their head and neck like a baseball bat. They don't bite.

Animals never do anything wrong to you guys. I mean, the bull wasn't wrong in the last video. The giraffe's not wrong here. About some accountability. Can the giraffe just be wrong? Let me ask you something, let me ask you something, Chris. If somebody was, you know, roping you and riding you with a cinch around your abdomen,

make it uncomfortable, and you're really working hard to get this person off because it's so uncomfortable and beyond uncomfortable, sometimes even painful, how are you going to feel towards that person? In love. Sexy. Okay, so you're one of those. Oh, God. So, Ron, can you, I want to play something else for you here.

This is a biker, I don't know where this is exactly, and he's just riding a line on a bicycle and then what jumps... Oh, the leopard gets him, I saw that! Oh, yes! A leopard, what? A leopard? That's a leopard. I know, but you're saying yes, you're celebrating that a leopard jumped out from the jungle and Attacked a man on a bicycle. That's a clean tackle. I should have been biking in the bike lane Dan The animals never at fault and Ron. What do you make of what happened here? Because I'm assuming that that was to eat Leopard was attacking that to eat. I Don't think it was to eat. No, I don't I think that was pure aggression

I don't think it was to eat. No, I don't. I think that was pure aggression that was experienced by that leopard by humans, either stoning it or something like that in the past. Listen, Dan, in India especially, there's so much growth, there's so much population growth. People are just moving into the habitats of these animals and these animals are kind of starting to fight back.

So that is an unusual and unusual experience there. But I have seen the thread on, on social media channels, you know, showing several leopards coming at people usually in these urban areas. And that's just because, you know, they're being pushed to the limit. So that was an attack. If he wanted to consume that guy, it would have grabbed him and bitten his neck and killed him right there and held onto him like it does with its normal prey. But that was just coming out have grabbed him and bitten his neck and killed him right there and held onto him like it does with its normal prey.

But that was just coming at him, bite, scratch, and get the hell out of Dodge. It's been nearly 20 years of this show, and I'm just making this connection. So Dan, for years, people accused you of being like an athlete apologist, and we're just now pointing together. Ron's an animal apologist,

and this may be why this marriage is working out. That is correct. But he's not wrong. No, he's wrong. Thank you, Jessica. Wrong McGill. I wrong it. Can you explain to me though,

the reason that I thought that it might be in an attack is only because I thought, and you're right, obviously it would go for the neck, but I thought that being out amongst cars and stuff would be such a panicking situation, survival, that the animal knows it's got a kill on the first strike and it's attacking a bicycle so it's attacking something that's unknown you're just saying that's an active get out of my area.

Yeah that that was an aggressive that was an aggressive attack. Pure aggression and my my suspicion is that that leopard has had a negative experience with humans prior to that. There's a whole thread of those leopard attacks. You'll see one actually trying to jump through the windshield of a truck trying to get after a guy. These are animals that have been in one way or another negatively impacted by humans where there's people throwing sticks at them, stones at them, shooting at at the whatever it is uh... listen animals remember things don't think that they don't remember things and don't think that animals will

not fight back uh... the elephant you always mentioned as one of the smartest but when we talk about an elephant possibly relating to names calling it's children names uh... what is the next species you would think capable of that? You always do elephant and dolphins with SMART. Is there another species that might surprise me because you think they might have names for each other? Well, you know, like you said, dolphins, all the cetaceans, all the whales, all of the cetaceans, I think their language is so, so diverse and so meticulous. I mean, I think is so, so diverse and so meticulous. I mean, I think cetaceans probably have that,

of course elephants. And we have seen in some chimpanzee cultures, certain different languages. And I don't wanna say languages, I should say dialects. Dialects, because they're kind of offshoots of the same language. But just like we have dialects of different people, you know, you hear someone speak English,

sounds different in, you know, London, or sounds different in Sweden than speaking English in the United States, the accents or the dialects can be different within the species. And I think chimpanzees, a lot of those primates have those same types of varieties. Ron, I wanted to ask you about Gertrude the flamingo, a 70-year-old flamingo that I read laid an egg recently at a nature preserve. Is that, how unusual is that for a 70 year old flamingo to lay an egg? 70 year old flamingo to lay an egg is very unusual. For there to be a 70 year old flamingo

is not tremendously unusual, though it's certainly on the very high end of their lifespan. We have flamingos here at the zoo that were here during Hurricane Andrew, which was, you know, what, 30 something years ago. So, you know, and they were adults when Hurricane Andrew came through. So they're in their 40s and 50s. So flamingos are long-lived birds, but having one lay an egg, now I would be very surprised if that egg was fertile. So that would take it to another level. But for her to produce an egg in and of itself at that age is pretty extraordinary. But I highly doubt that it would be fertile. Ron, I was going to ask you that. Do flamingos lay unfertilized eggs like chicken?

And if so, what do they taste like? Oh, Billy. What? Yeah, any bird can lay an unfertilized egg. I've never tasted a flamingo egg. I don't know what it would taste like. But you know, I mean, ostriches, you know, they make ostrich omelets all the time in southern Africa. They have them on ostrich farms. So all eggs have the ability to be eaten. Some I would imagine taste different than others, but they all have kind of the same contents, you know, the yolk, the egg whites, and they're full of protein,

and people eat them no matter what. I mean, eggs are the favorite diet of so many different animals in the Nahuatl kingdom. Well, I did read that Gertrude was flirting with a 37-year-old male named Gil. So she's living my grandma's dream. Wow, all right. Put it on the poll, please, Juju.

Do you know any Gertrudes under 70 years old? Thank you, Ron. Good talking to you. Always great, guys. Have a great week. Stu Gatz here. Summertime is here, which means travel season is upon us. If you're like me and love to travel during the warmer

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