The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: The Worst Opinion In The History Of The Show

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

Dan, Mike, Stugotz, and the crew discuss the breaking news on the PGA Tour and LIV Golf merging, why it happened, the lawsuits avoided, the angry players, and the American business comfort with taking dirty money. Then, Greg and Stugotz issue the worst opinion in the history of the show: "Nikola Jokic is boring to watch." Plus, Chris Mintz-Plasse joins the show for us to ruthlessly bully him about the Celtics loss. He tells us all about his new show 'Stars on Mars,' working with Marshawn Lynch, the veterans who showed him the ropes in the industry, how he's learned to cope with being called McLovin' in public, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the StugatSpotCas. I'm going to admit on the front end of this segment, when we talk about the very serious thing in sports one of the somber tone discussion sociological discussions that we have when the circus collapses in your face and you're like ooh The entertainment it's all gross. It's bought.'s greedy, and of course the country club golfers would immediately splinter.

Michelson gambling, and God knows how much. Of course they splinter, Greg Norman needs more, more. Of course they splinter and go after the Saudi money, and that's how golf got bought. That's how the Saudi money, not long after accusations of bone-sawing a journalist, and that's what we know about, right? Like, this is what they were buying. I think we can drop the accusations at this point. But I'm just saying, they knew what they were buying. Let's go over there with all our oil money

that ruins the earth, let's go and buy golf. It'll be easy. Yeah, watch. But holy shit, that happened fast. Yeah, you say easy. Yeah, watch. But holy shit that happened fast. Yeah, you say easy. Live golf. The news breaking, by the way, the PGA tour and live golf have merged. And this is a bombshell. No one saw this coming. It was very tight-lipped. I guess for pretty obvious reasons because right now the PGA has a member base in their players that is furious. So, you guys, you were telling me that Colin Moore-Cawa is hugely upset.

They apparently, all the PGA players found out at the very exact same time we did. Yes. That the entity, they, they spurned and decided to not take the oil money, blood money, the Saudi money. And they made this moral high ground call. Now all of a sudden, they find themselves aligned with Liv Gulf, and they didn't have any time to prepare for it. And it's quite the bombshell to drop on your players.

It seems like a lot of this, this merger was done to make lawsuits go away. And maybe the PGA tour felt like they were going to lose a good deal of those lawsuits and lose a good deal of money, which they cannot do because unlike the live tour, they don't have an endless well of money. And so Mike is right. Players are upset because they're not finding this out from their commissioner. They're finding it out on social media like everyone else. And then there's gonna be certain players who really backed the PGA tour who were gonna feel like they were kind of stabbed in the back today because hey, we backed what we thought was right about the game.

The tour that we thought was the right tour to be on, we didn't leave. It take 150 million guaranteed dollars. Certain golfers did and now they're being rewarded. Tiger Woods could have had $900 million. There were some who took a moral stand. But again, this is the country club being brought like this sport, individual greed, being what it is. This is shocking for a number of reasons

and given what you've seen during the pandemic, probably shouldn't surprise you at all. Like this is how you buy shit. It's how you buy shit with dirty money. This is surprising. This is surprising. This is surprising. Because from a business standpoint, it didn't look like Liv was working.

I mean, they're on the CW. I mean, yeah. And they're getting booted off for original programming and where you don't actually get to see the end of their golf tournaments. They, no one was taking their video rights. They're paying to be on the CW. Oftentimes, just the CW's app

that we all learned together was a thing. This is a center. And I can't wait for more reporting being done on this because this was a very closely guarded secret and it came together super fast. I think we're just at the very start of all the repercussions of this because I, what about the very start of all the repercussions of this because I, I, what

about the guys that actually took the money? Those are the guys, they're the smartest guys in the room. Yes. And that's why Collins pissed because he's like, wait, so I could have said yes to that. And then we would just all be back together now. Yeah. I make millions upon millions upon millions more than I would have made here. And all of a sudden, I find myself with my PGA card again.

Capca is one of the big winners here because he took the money. He left the PGA tour at just one the last major. I mean, it's crazy and I understand why certain golfers are upset. But Phil, when he originally started this said he set out to, you know, poke the PGA tour and show some inconsistencies and show that they weren't paying the players enough money. And perhaps Phil, you know, it was right. it's just wonderfully those symbolic that fill of all people. You're not paying me enough to gamble the way I like to.

Yeah. Well, it was naming like this stuff as well. But no, but he can be right and also have what is widely reported to be by many, many people. Yeah. Letigiously, a gambling issue that that guy would be like, yes, Saudi money, litigiously, a gambling issue, that that guy would be like, yeah, Saudi money, like it's artistic gymnastics to have that guy lead

this merging of businesses so that golf could be bought. Yeah, I feel like that was gratuitous on Phil and Nicholson. I don't know where. Yeah, we know that about lefty. No, the reason I'm saying is he's got a greed problem. Well, I don't think he's got a... America has a greed problem.

This is a capitalistic venture, and I think it shows how quickly Saudi money can really change the game. The PGA essentially had a monopoly on things, and live through all its failings, still found a way to infiltrate it, and now merge, and we'll see the details. Did the Saudis just totally get rid of it? Is this a true merger? Are the Saudis now a part of the PGA?

How does that make everybody feel that your masters and Augusta tradition unlike any other? Now all of a sudden, it has Saudi money attached to it. Well, the majors cave, that was a big part of this. The majors cave, they wanted the best players playing in their tournament. I wanted the best players playing in their tournament.

I wanted the best players playing in those tournaments, but I just want to clear something up because yet maybe Phil is greedy, but Phil's point all along is the PGA Tour is greedy. They're not giving us enough money. They're not giving us use of social media or names and likeness. They're taking all the money for stuff

that we tweet out, stuff on social media. We want a piece. And how they're getting a piece. Like the PGA tours made some drastic changes in terms of total purses for tournaments, generating more income for its players because of the lift.

I love the symbolism. You said, why take out Phil Mickelson? I love the symbolism of him now getting to be a freedom fighter. I'm a pioneer. I a justice warrior by taking that Saudi money. This is what I'm telling you. Yeah, I mean his colleague his colleagues will look to him and they were he was already

kind of getting this reputation. His colleagues were kind of looking at him because there was more of the pot. The PGA was coming to the table. This was getting golfers a little bit more money. So it'll be interesting to see if history kind of remembers Phil Nicholson because he's a guy that kind of made all this work. He's a guy that took a few. Yeah, Kurt flood. Kurt flood. Let's make him Jackie Robinson. He's a guy that took a huge PR hit at the start and then everyone kind of followed his lead, once they realized how to navigate it and he learned through his own failings

on how to navigate the PR thing. I think it shows how quickly Saadi can really mix things up here. And if I'm the UFC, I get nervous because they could just as well do that there. I would get nervous. I don't think they get nervous. I think they say, whoa, so we can legitimize this kind of business and make some more money on the side so a couple interesting things this morning at 8 a.m. there was a new

story about how the anti-trust case between Liv Golf and the PGA tour had reached a roadblock basically the PGA wanted there to be discovery and the Saudi said well we're immune from discovery because it's sovereign immunity. And so this was going to get tied up in the courts and it was going to last for a long time. I'm curious to see what the connection between those two things that knowing that this legal process would not be swift and the decision, all right, let's just merge.

They did not buy out lift, right? This press release does not say like, hey, we're just going to buy the tour, buy the thing let's just merge. They did not buy out lift, right? This press release does not say like, hey, we're just gonna buy the tour, buy the thing. Thanks a lot. Like, which is, I think the way we're conditioned most of the time to think of these types of ventures that are disruptors, right? It's usually smaller scale things

and they go up against the big boys and the big boys say, guess what, we'll just buy you and now you're just part of us. That's not what happens here. What's happening according to their own press release is a merger. They're creating a new entity and PIF, which stands for the Public Investment Fund, which is the Saudi financing arm basically,

are gonna make a capital investment into the new entity to facilitate its growth and success. Ladies and gentlemen, this isn't the PJ saying, let's get this litigation out the way. Let's spot these guys out. You made your point. This is, hey, those people that we called all these words in the book, you wanna be my business partner now,

which highlights, I think, one of the hypocrisies that a lot of people around the world feel about the United States. And I'm not here to defend the Saudis. I know their pieces of shit. And I'm not here to defend the Qataroutheastern and i'm not here to defend the the the cutlery's there they've got the same issues going on over there

of heinous acts there seems to be a real comfort attacking these people and painting them in a certain light up until the money hits your account in which case like i'm not as they're fine and that's kind of been America's relationship with dictatorships around the world. They're evil until they're on our side. And in which case, not a fine.

But I mean, so when the politics comes to the playground, I want you to explain the compromise that's being made here. When you're someone who came to this country with very difficult to get to freedom to watch Saudis just by their way in, that easily. You know sports business? You know that greed has a cold. It's heartless. There's nothing there, but get more money. Dan, I'm gonna tell you right now, like what's happening in my country is to Dan right now, where it's being torn apart by two militarized factions, one the actual army, the other the militia, and they're both being funded by some of these people.

Like they're getting their money, they're getting their arms, they're getting their munitions from the Saudis. They are, this, they are players in this as are the Russians, as are several other foreign nations. And when I hear kind of like this, oh well, whatever, I mean, this is all part of the same ecosystem of money being able to make things go away. But I really do find it interesting that when American spirits got so up in arms about live-go-all How could they and then these people are terrible people like

Do you know who these terrible people do business on a daily basis with who are on great speaking terms with many Apologition y'all you're part of this you don't get to say oh that's awful in the same way that people were going after the NBA about being in China I'm like you want to count how going after the NBA about being in China, I'm like, you don't want to count how many American companies are doing business in China? You can't be a Fortune 500 company and not do business with China. You cease being a Fortune 500 company,

but the PGA does have a problem with its hands because the marquee faces, like think about how Rory feels. He's been trotted out there week after week to be the face of this because he genuinely feels something, morally. And now, guys like Brooks, Captain, Phil, Michelson, lead with $500 million

and now reunification with the league that he was defending week after week in front of microphones. This is a bad look. Mike, Tiger, turn down $800 million. $800 million. I'd be curious. I'd be curious.

Like, okay, resign ourselves to the hypocrisies. $800 million. I'd be curious. I'd be curious. I'd be curious. I'd be curious. Okay, resign ourselves to the hypocrisies. Even the PGA did plenty of business with their European tour in Saudi Arabia. The hypocrisy from the PGA was clear, but they were individual golfers that felt very strongly about this, that actually put their principles over money. And now they're back with the Saudis. PGA tour commission or Jay Monahan will not survive this. The merger was bungled in such a way he will resign or be fired. ¡Araíz, bluque, araíz! Escuchéis lo que escuchéis, tapados los ojos.

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But they were both cartoons two guts. I had a crush on Betty rubble. Oh Wow was a humanoid, but they were both cartoons. Stugats. I had a crush on Betty Rubble. Oh, wow. What? What? That's very good. That's very good. That's very good. Whoa, with a surprise nomination from Stugats.

Showing you is dirty, dirty, inner nine-year-old. VCs did an libertar show with this two cats Greg Cody of the Miami Harold we are on the air. What are you looking at are you preparing for the show? Are you writing your back in my day? What have I interrupted you from doing right now to be truthful? I just read about two Cleveland Browns players being robbed at gunpoint I mean yes, you understand I mean, you're not Stan. Yeah, they're okay. They were coming out of a nightclub in Maria, Ohio at 330 in the morning. And were robbed by six men who got away in one of the players' truck.

So there, but they're okay apparently. So it's a. Were you doing show proper? Were you just going on a curious stroll through the sports news while not preparing for the segment? No, anticipated you might bring that up. So I was doing due diligence. I wasn't gonna bring that up. Well, that's your problem.

Well, look, now who's at the head? I was ready. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. That's all. I'm ready for anything, right? Mm-hmm.

I'm glad that we have you here during this exciting time in South Florida sports I'm glad that a mean is here an exciting time in basketball. I would like to talk about We talked hockey today, and I know we're between games on heat stuff But Jimmy Butler in this series that somehow it's tied But he's looked like not a very good Jimmy Butler. And, you know, yeah, it's important to have nine assists, but you're playing against the MVP of the league.

It's going to be hard to win the entirety of this series if you're not getting Jimmy Butler on a night being better than you. Let me ask you a question. If this wasn't the playoffs, and we don't have the very recent of the last few seasons playoff Jimmy thing coming alive Would anybody take exception with that Jimmy Butler performance? No, he has set the bar so high for himself with these legendary Playoff performances that when he merely plays like Jimmy Butler is a solid game It's a solid game like if he didn't if he didn't have even in this playoff They did the game against the the bucks. It's a solid game like you know if he didn't if he didn't have even in this playoff They the game against the the bucks. It's a little bit more inefficient

He's not living at the line the way that he used to but it's he's still had a good game. Yeah a good game solid Wasn't he like six for 17? No look listen This is seven and nineteen. I mean look. I mean these are not advanced metrics. I mean please give me I mean please help The group here because now because i do think i mean understands that the margin for error in these games is very thin my amie is playing a very thinly sliced basketball of were never going to turn the ball over it's going

to be maximum official not going to open the game up it's going to be deflections and tips and free throws and three pointers and we're gonna try and grind Man, I just came in here. You should have heard how Greg Cody and Stu got's were talking about Yoke it's they said bad for the game He is I mean, he's not the superstar. You want representing your game. It's not aesthetically pleasing It's just not super What it's it's not Kobe. It's not LeBron It is not magic Johnson. It is none of those guys. It's all not super. It's not Kobe, it's not LeBron, it is not Magic Johnson, it is none of those guys. It's all of them in one.

It's a guy you can barely jump. You don't enjoy watching him play. I find it very enjoyable. No, no, no, it's an ugly brand of basketball. No, he takes three point shots flat footed. He dribbled. He did full length of the court. No, you're right, you're right.

Larry Berg used to get up seven inches off the ground on all of his jumps. I didn't say Larry Berg. Yo-Kitch is already in my mind in terms of what his peak is, a top 10 basketball player ever. I have no doubt. I'm just saying he's not his. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, little, little, little, little. Okay, you first. There you go. Bro, but. Underfeated. That noise is undefeated. No, Sir God's, he's incredibly fun.

This guy throws passes. On. He throws passes. Doc, all these, no, okay. He doesn't look like a fun hang. We can all agree on that. Right. But like, you watch this guy pass, right?

There's a play in the game too, where the heat try to collapse, they threw the ball, yo, and was a play in the game too, where the heat try to collapse, they threw the ball at Yokeich and he literally just slapped the ball like a seal and it went straight to Michael Porter, junior I believe who cut and dunked. This dude is incredibly fun to watch play. It's just he's not fun to watch, do anything else.

Like sit on the bench when he crosses his legs. Looks like he's just sipping coffee, right? Or talk to the media or do commercials. He's not fun in that part. But like on the court, he's just sipping coffee right or or talk to the media or do commercials. He's not fun in that part, but like on the court, he's one of the most fun players in the league and the and the nuggets have one of the most aesthetically pleasing styles of game. They're like the warriors. They move around. They they pass. They cut. The basketball is great to watch. It's just the personalities aren't he? He's a more fun, more skilled Tim

Duncan in that very boring personality. Big fun, a mental. Everyone acknowledges the greatness. But I'm telling you, you mentioned that Berlking was boring. Yeah, but they call him the big fundamental. Yeah, it's when the men are boring. I'm gonna tell you that maybe he's boring to watch,

but you can make that argument with Yokecch. You just simply cannot. He's electrifying to watch. And I say this is someone that's not watching him for a two game. You just simply cannot. He's electrifying to watch. And I say this is someone that's not watching for two games. I don't agree that he's electrifying to watch in a way that LeBron James cracks in his prime. Mm-hmm. Yokecitch to me does not exude athleticism. You're looking at his arms.

You're just looking too much right here. But also way from his triceps. But Greg, also, I would say, I'm going to name some names that we've all thought are some of the most entertaining players ever. Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Steph Curry. These guys don't exude athleticism. They exude skill and fun and and a joy for the game. And I think Yokey is of that same ilk.

I am legitimately right now shocked, shocked that Stu got and Cody. Basically, this is happening because they've just stumbled upon his game. It's what's happening. They're like, I don't like that. It doesn't jump so much. So he's not soaring dunks. It's like, this dude's been doing this for three seasons.

And do you know how amazing his story it is that somebody who comes from his past has broken the whole league over his knee. And he's playing this just style of basketball that i will grind my way through you and i'm bigger than you i'm stronger than you i see everything that's happening around me and i'm not going to make he's a war machine of basketball if you asked mba executives and perhaps will have the chance to do so it means party who they would rather have in the mba

finals yoke itch kevin to rant they would rather have in the NBA finals. Yo-kitch, Kevin Durant, Kawaii Leonard, they're all gonna tell you Durant, Kawaii Leonard, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, anyone but Yo-kitch. So, so, I would, I would look on this.

The second name you said, Kawaii Leonard is a great comp as someone A, even though he's got some athleticism, his game does not scream athleticism. He's not win-milling on people. Most of what Kwai does is lock down defensively and then come down and hit a contested jumper which he's excellent at, right? But he doesn't soar.

And also, he's boring too. He don't have a person out of either. He doesn't, no one's tuning in. Yeah, it's absolutely, I think. This is a white thing. So, God's is being racist. What do you know about that? Oh, no think this is a white thing. Two guts as being racist. Oh, no, it's a white thing. I have no idea what you're talking about.

It's a white thing. I don't, he's, the argument that he's a boring watch is crazy to me. It's just, it's, it's incomprehensible. It's boring to me. I mean, Derek wasn't boring. Boom. He's boring.

There. You guys had just said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You guys have dirt as a more exciting watch than Yoke. I didn't say that. I did. Okay. He just thought of a white guy. Alright, he boxed in. Let's just let's get back into a corner right now. No, but let's examine this for a second because it's honest. They were having the conversation, the racist conversation off air.

Boom. They were having off air at the conversation of I don't like this guy, he's ruining the sport because he's grinding his way to triple doubles, he can score 40 and the coach, small strokes, about to command $20 million a year is getting agitated, poor Ramona Chelburn, before saying, for having the blaspheme to say, hey, Spote, it'sotted something you do stop all of that

And and suppose answer was why are you crazy to the untrained eye this monster this warm machine? I do not like good my defense. It's do you know I've had Riley breathing on my neck for 30 years So that I stopped that shit That shit Who stops that shit that shit is better than anybody in the world and and and and Cody and and Stugato here to tell you not enough boring boring what I'll say that he's not boring at all jump his game is boring his game is absolutely like you can his game was boring when he was winning two MVP awards his game his game is more his game is absolutely like you can his game was boring when he was winning two mvp awards his game is a poor he's not he's not a national television darling TV executives are not going wow look at yoke it's taking flat footer

judge but this is all the heels of the ratings being down to me everybody come down everybody come down there's a difference between the ratings are down he doesn't inspire people to rush to the television and His game is boring. He is an exciting. He plays a very fun style of basketball that is visually appealing now because he doesn't Promote himself. He doesn't do the what I call the due diligence of superstars, which is your job is to sell this league Yes, you're supposed to win But you got to sell this league and he doesn you're supposed to win, but you got to sell this league. And he doesn't do that. And the Denver Nuggets don't do a good job of selling him.

Maybe that's because he doesn't want to be sold. And we try to be like, oh, what a noble act. This guy just cares about the game. But I'm sorry, this is a business. But what you're vocalizing right now Greg, I'm not disagreeing with you about the ratings. I'm not disagreeing with you about the American public. Hey, there's this guy named Nikolay Okitch

watching, they're like, no, you're on, yeah. But that there's this guy named Niko Yokich watching. They're like, no, you're on. Yeah, but that's because they don't watch and play. I refuse to believe you guys sat down and watch 96 minutes of basketball. This guy playing. It said, oh my God, here comes this guy with another no look pass through three people.

Well, boring. No, his passing is absolutely great for a man that size. For a man of any size. Okay, don't get it wrong. He's a wonderful player. He's a great player. his passing is absolutely great for a man that size for a man of any size. Okay. Don't get it wrong. He's a wonderful player. He's a great player. He probably should have won a third straight MVP award. I can appreciate his game without finding it particularly exciting.

I just don't. Stu got tonight. Great. I don't shaz it up a little bit. I don't think you can appreciate his game. You're not properly appreciating his game. If you don't understand how hard it is to be that excellent. But you like watching magic.

He does the same thing. He's magic and bird rolled into one. Yeah, if you like magic, you're watching the same thing. You're watching him shoot like bird and pass like magic and bird. Look at his phone. And rebound like better than either one. I get his posture.

He's just not used to being like held accountable for this nonsense. What are you talking about? Magic was different. Magic had a certain or not. Yeah. Movie theaters, all that. Yeah. Movie theaters.

And the name magic. I mean, it's a big difference. Movie theaters. Yeah, movie theaters, a whole after his magic yoke-itch would roll off the tongue better. There you go. He needs a good nickname. The Joker is in it for me. We talked about this in Denver.

Like, Joker does not fit him even though... No. So you agree with Stugach then? Yeah. He needs a little something to put him over. Exactly. Exactly. What if he died his hair?

What color? Green. Yeah. No, that's... That's leading us to the Joker thing. You want to get away from the Joker. The arm leader. But that's about his fame to the casual fan.

Yeah, that's what we're talking about. But there's character, the arm leader. The arm. And the arm, like James limited. You know what does he do other than, you know, like destroy, he destroys your defense. He's one of those bloody arms, with his bloody arms. That is correct.

He needs, he needs better marketing. Yeah. The PA could go nuts whenever he does He are Bleeder seems like everyone's coming around Nicknamed flat foot that would be my nickname for him. I am It's cool. I hold on hold on Greg Greg. I want you to describe to me a market. Yes I'm marketing campaign around this doctor shows I mean, it's with rights itself.

Yeah, I am mortified. Mr. J, he's Dr. Shoals. The Greg Kodde, Greg Kodde and Stugodds have officially produced the single worst opinion in the history of this show. And you know what, flat foot, isn't it? Don Lebertard. Should Greg Cody of the Miami Herald be allowed to wear a clothespin on his nose? Hell yeah. When we smear cat food on his face in a little bit, but he, you know what he told me, Mike?

He told me he suffers from gourd. Stugats. I do suffer from gourd. And I'm getting messages to Dr. McGillic at a, he's trying to fax over in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,illic at a he's trying to facts over in in in in junction to prevent me from doing it because I do suffer from GERD the digestive reflux disease yeah a G E R D like GERD muller the former soccer player from Germany and you know it's it's a serious thing you know whether you're laughing about it or not. Garden it. This is the Don Lebertar show with this two gods. It made me genuinely happy to see this man's face. And then Mike Ryan welcomes him in and immediately hits him with a Miami heat type

reference that, that, oh, look at him. He's still whimpering. It hurt him. It, it, this is not a way to greet someone might to welcome them into your space is by bringing up the heartache of and i don't know how this went for you Christopher mince-plus but uh... yeah were you just broken physically broken i mean i think when the Celtics were down oh three i was physically broken and i wanted to break it all up and i want to a Zoologon. And then when they pulled three out and they tied it three, three, I was

like, Oh, this is what we do. This is what Boston sports teams do is they come back and they make history and then Tatum sprained his ankle in the first play of the game. And I was like, this is not going to go well. And you know, it still stings, but, but I believe in them and they'll be back and I'm stoked to be here on the show with you guys. Thanks for having me. Chris, would you rather than just been swept than having your hopes built up and then dashed in a terrible game seven?

Oh, that's tough. That's tough because it's the right thing to do, you know, getting rid of bazoula and if we were swept, maybe they would have fired him, maybe they would have hired Monti Williams, but you don't want to see that. You don't want to see that with your team. So I was stoked that they won three. I wanted to see it happen.

And, you know, maybe they'll hire some good assistant coaches and they'll get to the finals next year. Chris, how did the misery of the Celtics losing compared to the misery of the Bruins losing? This is brutal, guys. Oh my god. Welcome to our world You've done plenty of winning

I just woke up I got back from a bachelor party last night I still got like drugs flushing out of my system and you're gonna make me cry right now We're having a party on Thursday down here if you want to make it down to my areas. All right. Maybe definitely the Celtics, W Celtics. I'm, it goes Celtics, Patriots, Red Songs, Bruins for me. I don't follow the Bruins as tightly as I do the other teams. But you know, when they have the most historic season in NHL history, you're like, this is, this is a cakewalk and then they blow it to another South Floridian team. You are on with us because is it been Mike Ryan? Somebody's been talking about stars on Mars

around here for a couple of days. They wanna talk about this show and I haven't seen it yet. Mike, why are you so enthused about it? I love the concept. A few years ago, there was this podcast that I love listening to, it was called The Habitat. And it was about astronauts that trained in a remote place.

And I think it was a big island of Hawaii. And the topography is, everything is made to feel like Mars. And this is how they prepare for these potential missions to Mars. And I was fascinated by I love the podcast. And someone decided to make a show out of it, but a show with celebrities and that Fascinated me and recently I saw aerial winters on the on the show from modern family and She was honored to be alongside a real astronaut during the show

Unfortunately, she thought Lance Armstrong was the real astronaut. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant content. Aria Winters a legend. She... See, I had a tough time being there because I'm so used to hiding behind dialogue and a character until being myself, being filmed 24-7 with 60 cameras in every room. I'm like, you know, you ride the emotions of a day, which is happiness, sadness, tiredness, excitedness. I'm being filmed when this is all happening. I didn't know what to do.

And Ariel, she just has this brilliant moment of thinking, my answer to Sean is the alarm strong. And I'm like, that's good content. Like that, like, you know, she's nervous of how she's gonna be perceived at that moment. I'm like, no, that's entertainment right there. That's the good stuff. But I listen to Habitat as well and our show is nothing like that. You know, you got Marshawn Lynch there and he's not going to allow you to actually throw him out. And Marshawn wants his Hennessy. You know, like really is. You must have some good stories there.

Marshawn is always Marshawn. He's not putting on heirs for any Hollywood types. Dude, I mean, he was saying the F word every other word. I didn't know how he was gonna happen on Fox, but he's brilliant. He is the most real human being I've ever met. And he was, we voted him commander in episode one and he was like defending his boys.

Like, Lance, didn't give us our luggage until the second day and Lance Armstrong needed his reading glasses. It's so, Mara Sean is just like, yo, producers, but just screaming at the top of his lungs, get OG, his glasses, dog. I'm like,

he's got to push in the game inside. I was like, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. It's as great as he's going to say no. Wait, actually, wait, so you guys don't actually go to Mars? Really Chris. Really. Go to the second.

It'd be sick if we were the first people to ever land on Mars. Go send the family. I mean, with all this training, one of you should at least make the cut. I know. Well, the thing is, no one's ever been to Mars and it would be wild if Fox was like, I'm going to put Ronda Rousey She's gonna be the first person ever like astronauts are trying it for a reality show

We were we were in the middle of the outback in Australia in a mining town called Kubra Piti was very cool place When you were sitting in the great seats watching Boston lose you were there for game seven you were I was there No Boston lose you were there for game seven you were I was there no I was there for game five and then one and then I flew to Miami for game six where Derek White had the the hand of God to point two second layup so I was three and oh this year going to the garden so maybe my mistake was not being there for game seven it's on you it is you gotta show up to game seven. Jack Harlow, court side, and he has a song about Tyler Hero.

That's right. That's what happened. That's right. That's correct, man. That is correct. You didn't show up to the game. You can't blame anyone but yourself. You're right, you're right.

Maybe you got my ticket. Maybe that's why I'm bitter. How can you help us understand because I do believe fame. I don't know how old you were when when fame first came, but I would imagine your life was thrown sideways by everything that happened with becoming Mcloven, right? I don't like how to is there any handbook? Did you perloth? Is there any handbook given to anybody that allows them to sort of try and figure out how to navigate everything that happens after that?

I mean, no, you just kind of, yes, so I was 17 when Super Bad came out. So you're correct. It was 16 years ago, which is very crazy. It's pretty amazing that people still want to talk about it. This far along later. But yeah, there's no real way to handle it. You know, Seth Rogan gave me some advice when it came out and his his advice was don't do

another high school movie again, because I think I could have easily got locked into doing a bunch of high school stuff. I got really distracted. What I got a man who's yes, he's on Mars. He's pretending to be on Mars. He we sent him away here very clearly never watch total recall Is that what Mars was like? I was exactly what it was like there that was spot up. That is the show. You don't need to go watch the show Just watch this man right here. He's nailing it Yeah, yeah, it was super intense and but you, people running up to me at 18 years old, grabbing my face, doing the, I got a boner line.

And me just being like, I want to be a kid, I want to smoke weed, what's going on? You know, but I had great friends and family to kind of guide me along. And now I'm here on the Dan Levitard show, living it up, baby. Life's good. Chris, in basketball and sports,

there's always this concept of vets that look after the young rookies and show them the ropes of the industry. You mentioned Seth Rogan. Who are some of your the vets who showed you the ropes of the industry? I mean, definitely Seth and Evan, Evan Goldberg who wrote super bad, Judd Apatow. They kind of took me under their wing. I think they could have realized maybe I would have gone a different party avenue, drug avenue, if I if I didn't have their guidance, but it's funny because I kind of feel right now one of my close friends Nicholas Braun is on succession and he plays a similar kind

of he plays cousin Greg and I played McLevin and they're both in that kind of echelon of one character names and he feels like he's done his research watching me kind of combat the McLeven thing on the streets and he finds himself giving answers when people are you cousin Greg is like, hey, hey, hey, I am the Abba my name's Nick and he's like, I learned that from you from watching you on the street. Are you McLeven? And like, yeah, but my name's Chris. And so I feel like I'm kind of helping him out a little bit.

And do you always meet that with grace or sometimes are you surly, you got an emergency, you don't want to be Mclovin, then you want to not be like I, I would imagine that it would be annoying right now to be cousin Greg in public, just because he's very, he's very tall. And he's going to be seen by a lot of people and people do not respect your space anymore. Yeah, you know, I think it's a good way to ask it is you handle a grace. I think if the people that are coming up to you and are treating you with respect, then you're going to give respect back. You know, maybe they don't know my name is Chris.

Maybe they don't know his name is Nick. So they go, oh, like cousin Greg, I'm a huge fan, McLevin. I'm a huge fan. It's like, great. Awesome. Like, I'm down to talk to you. But there are those people that don't care. I met someone at the Celtics game that's like, hey, McLevin, I'm a huge fan. It's like, great, awesome. Like, I'm down to talk to you. But there are those people that don't care. I met someone at the Celtics game that's like,

hey, McLevin, I'm like, yeah, what's going on? My name's Chris and he's just like, I'm calling you, McLevin. I don't care, I don't care. I'm calling you this. And I'm like, all right, like, I'm trying to have that connection with you so you're gonna get to know the real me, but you only see me in this one light. And that's fine.

There's no issue with that, but that's kind of as far as our relationship will go. Great. And that's fine. There's no issue with that, but that's kind of as far as our relationship will go. Chris. Yeah, you will decide decisively there. You and I will not be friends with this connection ends right now. I'm not bringing home to meet my parents if you're screaming McLeven still. You know what I mean? Like that's not the case.

Chris, here's the question. If you were had to be identified by one role in your career, which one would you pick? I mean, the world has chosen for me that it is Mick Love and it's, you know, I owe everything to that role. It would be, I'd be bitter if I was upset that people loved that movie, loved that character. It has given me everything.

It gave me kickass role models, kickass two, neighbors one, neighbors two, all the animated stuff I've done. You know, I go to the Celtics game and Robert Williams is like so excited to meet me because of that movie. I'm like, in what world would this ever happen? It is a gift and I'm very grateful for it. Chris, when you were cast on this show with Tom Schwartz of Vanderpump Rules, I'm sure you didn't expect to find yourself in the middle of Scandival. How have you been able to navigate that tricky situation?

I didn't know who he was. I'd never seen the show. So he just walked in. I was like, oh, he's just a very charming handsome guy, very sweet. Can you run me through what the Scandival thing is? I feel like this crowd doesn't know what it is feel like the dan levitators showed us not know what the scandal billy is here to help you thank you for bringing that up because yes it's a gossipy fun item go ahead billy well so essentially there's a show called vandorpump rules where there's a bunch of people who are bartenders at one of least vandorpump's restaurants and they all cheat on each other

and for ten years they've all been cheating on each other but wildly popular show yeah this year tom sand of all I guess last year Tom sand of all not to be confused with Tom sure you are friends with his friends with Tom sand of all Tom sand of all cheat on Ariana and that was a big no no even though the way that that relationship started was kind of questionable because of the time Tom sand of all was dating Chris and Dodie. So then Ariana got in the picture. They only kissed no more than that. And then they ended up in a relationship together.

Fast forward to 10 years now, season 10. And then he had a relationship with Raquel. He was really known as Rachel. Well, what you guys talk about on Mars? I mean, Tom Schwartz is not that deep. Well, dude, I, I didn't, you know, you guys haven't seen the show, but it aired last night. I don't last very long on it. So I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I't know I don't make it very long I didn't dig into the sand of all of things the scand of all of things but he's a very sweet man

And I wish Tom Schwartz if he's not a piece of POS if he's not one I wish him best Christopher We've all noticed the drum set behind you you playing a band we'd like you if you don't mind Mind you climb behind the drums. Oh, Sirius Take us to do it. So got to do it. Christopher. He's asking me. Let me ask the question. I'm dancing. You pose it as we want. Come on. No, he is a great drum player and a great bassist guitarist. Right? You play the bass guitar. I want you to take us to break with a little music. I'm gonna be you. Well, I would have I would have plugged in a bass if I would have known. I haven't played drums in like Seven years

To the base Come on I'm in Barrista. If you want to sing a song with us, we can sing a song about Stugat's being disgusting. What? Why is this guy better? I'm sorry. I'm speaking to you in your whispering eye. Yes. Stars on Mars. Mondays at 8 p.m. on Fox. Thank you, Chris. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me, guys. Love talking sports. Have me on again, please.

Love you. Unfox, thank you Chris. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me guys. Love talking sports. Have me on again, please. Love you.