The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: This Show Would've Crushed in 2016

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Kyle Bramlett is the man who was kicked by Jorge Masvidal, and he joins the show to give us the details of how it's actually a punishment from his boss. Then, Stugotz delivers his Top 5 People Who Can Steal His Takes, Colin Cowherd gives an ad for Fox News, the crew remembers Harambe, and Peroni's Disease. Plus, Lucy explains the latest on Nick Saban, and we resurface sound about accordion lessons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. To our most loyal listeners, I am telling you I'm challenging you to challenge Matt Sullivan to get Stranger and weirder and off the beaten path guests Okay, because for the first time since Allison we now have someone around here who will search the world with a team of investigators to find the weirdest guests anywhere in pop culture. And we have been playing this video for a while here, I don't know, all week at least, where I'm confused by how it is and why it is we underestimate the athletes we watch,

why anyone would think that they should stand in a ballroom and be kicked by Jorge Mosvedal, who since he's been 15 years old in the streets of Miami, has sharpened his shins so that when he hits you in the leg at maximum power, he's a killer in the fight game, you idiot. But that idiot has a story for the rest of his life. Okay, he does, but this is the part I didn't understand when we were looking for him is this is a person

who should know better because he's is driver he runs security for or a must-have at all he makes his money off of horny or a must-have all being able to do that to other professional fighters who are fighting over money. What are you doing, you idiots? Play that video.

Takes one hour to get to 1000. What? Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! And the video, if you're only listening via audio, him slithering Kyle Bramlett slithering

across the floor I don't know 12 feet and writhing pain and shooting Mosfidala middle finger. An idiot. Oh he joins us now. Kyle thank you for joining us. Can he still drive? Well let's find out. Can he hear you Kyle? An an idiot? Well, I, twice. Look, Kyle. Yeah, no, I can drive just fine. It hurt only for a few moments. All right. Okay, so yes, forgive me, Kyle, for being a bit of a moron in the way that I have introduced you. I appreciate your time here. I think you would understand, though, why I'd like the back story. You're the driver and you help run security for Jorge Mosvedal. And this seems like a wildly imprudent thing to do. Why did you do it?

And thank you for joining us. Well, I had showed up a little bit late for work and he, uh, they were looking for a victim to kick. So I joined in. All right. So just abusive. Jorge Mosfidal is an abusive employer who you were late for work in the week. No, not at all. He kicked you.

He kicked you. He's the best employer in the world. Okay, so, but I don't understand. The punishment for this, I would imagine, would be real pain that you still feel. Are you, did you know this was coming? Does he treat many employees this way? No, I knew it was coming. The other guy, he had offered a little bit of money on the side

and I was like, Hey, let's go with it. Okay. Well, now the story gets more interest, but the punishment, the punishment, no matter what for being late as late cake, we all know this. We have the same rule. Wait, so, so I kind of got, I kind of got a win-win situation there. Okay. Hold on a second. No, wait a minute. You should be late more often in the fighting game a Jorge Mosvidal I don't know how many employees he has you're telling me that it's understood that if you're late This is the way the boss punishes lateness It's almost everything is possible by leg kick of course

wait a minute Everything is recorded on film. So Kyle Kyle we just find people. No, but Kyle, all right, so Kyle, what you're explaining to us about the savage world that you live in is that this is normal? That what that what just happened to you, you knew what that would feel like because there have been a hundred people before you who have suffered this or does everyone just know not to be late?

Yeah, we dropped off. That's what happens when you fly too close to the sun, then I'll... I think he's even maybe in trouble now. Probably gonna get kicked. He's gonna get kicked for that, yeah. Oh boy. For telling the truth.

So could we volunteer to get kicked by you, but then also sue you for it? Cause I would sign up. It's a haddy-blush. Heard of death punishment kicked by Dan? I have a lot more questions. Should we be joking about that? I don't know.

No, you guys, I think it is possible that his employers now cut him off and we're gonna be in an editing decision journalistically with this ridiculous interview. This is possible because this is not the turn I saw this taking. I thought- That's shocking, because you started so pleasant. Yeah.

Yeah. Brought him in so nicely. Just as discount Willy Wonka calling him an idiot. I will admit to being aggressive because I've been emboldened by this costume today. It's the stick, like that this shaft are waving around his golden shaft. Yes, the golden shaft.

Can we call it a scepter? Is that more acceptable? The shaft is wild work. It's what he called it. It's what I've been calling it. And I understand, juju, why it is that you would object. And yet I'm going to lean into it. I'm going to continue to lean into the power of the golden shaft. Hey, my bad. Okay, Kyle has rejoined us here. Thank you,

Kyle. And we're wondering, uh, did that leave a mark? How long ago was this done and did it leave a bruise? It was done on Friday and no, it never left the bruise. Okay, so you're okay. I'm taking quite a few leg kicks. Okay. Well, okay. So this is now about your toughness because I'm saying you're an idiot and you're saying no, I'm not. It didn't hurt that much I mean it definitely hurt. He hit me with at least 70 80 percent or so is a good kick

But you know when you can't check the kick and you just got to take it it hurts a little more Yes, but the middle finger that you gave him it was pathetic But it was pathetic is what I'm saying. You're writhing on the floor. This is not your morning. More menacing middle finger. I mean, you can't hit the boss. You know, the boss is the man. No, I know.

Do you have anything nice to say about Kyle? I mean, OK, well, Kyle, this is my fault. It's the shaft's fault. That's OK. No, Kyle, I've stepped there. Scepter, scepter. My bad. So Kyle, what you're telling me and forgive me for this becoming all of a sudden a journalistic investigation. How many times have you been hit by a leg kick? Give me a number over 1000. You've been trained for a while. So Wow, you've been late 1000 times. No, well, that's not the question.

Forgive me. Jorge only the single kick. He only got me the one time. Okay, so you've only been late once. Okay, because that was going to be my second question. Of those thousand kicks or more than a thousand kicks, how many of them have been by your boss, Jorge Mosvedal, as an abusive punishment for being late? For sure, just the one.

And how many... And we won't be late again. Okay, and how many other employees have been kicked in the leg as a form of punishment because all of you guys know that's the punishment for being late? I don't know if I'm allowed to answer that question, but we're going to go with a solid three. Okay. Well done.

Three is super necessary. Okay, Kyle, I appreciate you. You protected your boss. I was really aggressively trying to get you to snitch, but you're not going for that. You're just telling us, look, I'm tougher than I look. That wasn't as bad as it looked. And also I gave him the middle finger,

so I'm still tougher than you think I am. Well, it sounds good. Why were you late that day? Just out of curiosity traffic. We have a little safety meeting out in the parking lot. You know, that happens. Yeah. Yeah. Those parking lots. Okay. I just want to be clear on something. You had a safety meeting and that's what happened to you. Yeah, I want to be clear. I want to be clear. I mean, I could have been a little okay. I know, but I want to be clear on what happened in the parking lot. You had a meeting about safety in the workplace and then that's what's right. Brothers, don't let Willy want

to know you like this. How ridiculous. My boy got his last mouth. He know about the safe to beat. Oh yeah. How ridiculous is our host look? I think he looks alright with his purple jacket and his mushroom hat. Thank you Kyle. I appreciate it.

I'm sorry I onboarded you by calling you an idiot. I know he's a nice man, but he understands. He's in on the joke. He understands that I don't think it's wise to get kicked by Jorge Mosvedal. It's not a shocking tip. It's definitely not wise. Don't ask for it.

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because you did a great Charles Barkley. You're one for one there. Did no one just hear the segment we just did with Amin? We cannot be taking- Amin's judgment is not the best. Council from the local drunk on whether or not you should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words.

Like you don't see the bad judge in that. There it was. Moses Moody? Moody Moses? Moses Moody? You need that, it sounds worse. First, be careful man. We cannot do this, it's too close to the line.

This is where the line is. Something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared our ginger's gonna do something racist by accident. Carry the hell on, Dan. Rachel. Dan, the line is where we feel alive, though. This is the Dan Levittar Show with the Stugots. MUSIC

Forgive me, I continue to get displaced Stugots. I don't want to move too far away from who the five people are. That you have allowed the rights to steal a take from you. I've granted permission. Because now we know it's HEMBO and we know it's won. I didn't know it was up to five. I really did not. And I didn't know there were any, honestly, that had gotten the highest honor, right? Is it not the highest honor in broadcasting for Stugots to say no, Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick?

You guys are just thieves. You guys take my ideas and you don't credit me for them and then they get insulted. But these five guys, Stugots, I'm assuming they're guys, these five Stugots says, steal my takes, you want them, they're all yours. It was shocking to you because normally I do get upset if someone steals my take, it doesn't give me credit,

but you were shocked to learn that. No, I'm good with Hembo. He's okay, I granted him permission. Lucy, do you know who Hembo is? No, the whole time I kinda, it sounds like a made up name a little bit. I thought you guys were talking about Harambe for a second. Oh man.

That would be crazy. If Harambe for a second. Oh, man. That would be crazy. If Harambe stole a take, that'd be wild. Are you telling me that Lucy has no idea who Hembo is? Looked him up too, still don't know. I don't... I'm sure he's a nice guy.

Somebody doesn't watch Get Up. I don't. Sal'm sure he's a nice guy. We're just somebody doesn't what Jeremy said somebody doesn't watch get up. I don't Salute to him. Oh Yeah, I think he's I bet if I got to know him I'd really like him. Oh, you'd love him Are you saying that Harambe is more famous than Hembo? Yeah, what happened to your shaft? Who is Harambe? Oh really that is you don't know the dead gorilla story the you don't know the I don't know the Dead Gorilla story? The, you don't know the, I don't know the history of it. I just know that name as a viral Dead Gorilla story. But Hembo is an ESPN person who grew up as a producer for all things ESPN.

And I don't want to move too far away from Stugots being genuinely- Is this Harambe we're talking about? Or Hembo? Harambe, forgive me,- Is this Harambe we're talking about? Or Hembo? Cool. Harambe, forgive me, because I know Harambe is a pop culture icon that represents what I believe to be a dead gorilla. A controversy involving a gorilla that was shot.

Those are the only details I know. I don't know any of the other details. Hembo is a producer at ESPN. I don't know who he produced for. Mike and Mike? Yes, he was Mike and Mike's producer. Now he's Greeny's main getup, Stack Guy. Harambe, I believe a child got into an exhibit,

and for the safety of the child, they had to shoot Harambe. It was a big national controversy. Yeah, that's right. Mr. Power, Harambe. It was horrible. It was horrible. I'm not gonna say that baby had what it had come into it, what it had come into it,

but Harambe was just being Harambe. Well, that's a take. It's a very Willy Wonka take. It was horrible that I'm not gonna say that baby had what it would come into it what it had come into him But Harambe was just being Harambe. That's a take. It's a very Willy Wonka take The shaft man, what of it Harambe was just being a gorilla don't be a baby, baby I told you not to drink them fizzy lifting drinks Like what do you think what do you think the girl that this is gonna do baby in the moat? Baby in the mouth the girls gonna grab you and then we're gonna have to kill her on band There's gonna be an international controversy because what that girl didn't do anything But be a gorilla do you what do you think's gonna happen if you're a baby and he's a gorilla man? This would have crushed in 16. Oh my god. I wonder if you'll get canceled for having this take eight years after the fact

I'm here for it. I don't care. I'll take All you woke people. It is really f*****g crazy. I'm pro, in this case I'm pro gorilla, I'm against the baby. Damn. I mean, not a lot of people have that. I know Harambe from Kwanzaa, it's like Harambe. Your Shaft is bent.

It is. Been working it hard. Wow! Lucy made an important creation earlier. I think it's a staff anyways, so why is Shaft even introduced? Okay, Juju, thank you. You are correct on this.

And I'm also being made uncomfortable by everything Sturgats is doing because he can't be trusted with subtlety. But what I will say to you, and this part has been funny to see, because let's get to this list of top five people that are allowed to steal your takes. But what has will say to you, and this part has been funny to see because let's get to this list of top five People that are allowed to steal your takes But what has been funny to see is the power that this golden scepter has given me today

Has been so intoxicating that I'm not kidding you when I say this Billy once said mumbling as And wasn't that long ago mumbling is still gots left the room to me and wasn't that long ago. Mumbling as Stugans left the room to me, Dan, how have you not realized yet that if you wanna get a colonoscopy, he wants to get a colonoscopy? So Stugans during one of the breaks today said, I wanna cane.

Transition. What? What? I do wanna cane. Only because it's become increasingly harder for me to get up. I mean, raising. It's not, it's not-

Raising, wow. It's speaking of get up. Raising. It is not because you're having a hard time, Stugz getting up. It's because I'm getting all the attention for having a golden cane. It makes you insane with jealousy that Wonka has a cane. But I did see you use it once to get out of the chair. I did.

And it seemed a lot easier to get out of the chair. I did. That's all I'm looking for. I did. I did. But it's flimsy. I need a better scepter. It's not a great scepter.

You guys probably are due for colonoscopies. I do it every time. I do it every time. I do flimsy. I need a better scepter. It's not a great scepter. You guys probably are due for colonoscopies. I do it every five years. You have to once you get to 40. People don't know that? People, see your doctor's public service announcement. And speaking of get ups, two gots,

who else is on your list? Oh, very good. Number five is Hembo. Number four, Gojo. Number three, Gio. A lot of hoes. Number two, Russo. I like what we're cooking.

We're building up. And number one, Colin Coward. It's an odd one, I understand it, and there's no O there. But I stole so many of Colin's takes. Colin doesn't even know he's been granted permission to steal my takes. I'm just telling you, I've stolen so many of Colin's takes that he is more, more than welcome

to steal any of my bad takes. So is this a list of people whose takes you've stolen and then retroactively granted the right to steal your takes back or? Well, Hembo I just love, I taught him everything he knows. Gojo I just love, he could steal anything from me. Gio I just, you know, I like him, he's a good friend. Russo's Russo, it's an honor if Russo uses your take

as far as I'm concerned and Colin because I stole his takes. So those are the five. Mike Ryan is a big admirer of how the Colin Cowherd factory works at producing content that is meant to go viral and is meant to land in all the places to God's where people can consume media. And I saw, now that you mentioned Colin Cowherd, I saw a, I don't know if it was a commercial, well, no, it wasn't a commercial, it was just Colin Cowherd's show. And if I were to simply say to you, and I'm curious what the group thinks of this,

if I were simply in fiction trying to invent for you, in fiction, if I had Mike Schur and Adam McKay write this, hey, how would you write in 2024, what's the best way for a sports show to remain popular and what's going to be a really divided political 2024? How would you write the commercial for that so that it could be the most palatable to all of America that this is a safe place to talk about sports? Would it sound anything like this?

Did you watch any of the political stuff last night? Ooh, divisive. Other than getting my ballot in, no. Is anybody excited about Trump versus Biden? Because that's what we got. Is anybody excited about that? That's not great, right? I don't know how you can be all into that.

You know how loud and ugly and raucous and negative it's going to be for the next six months? Good thing we have sports to talk about as an escape from that now I mean that that is going to be the most contankerous ugliest snarky mean it's gonna be awful but you should watch Fox News if you have a choice you know our owners on that so I mean you know I don't know I watched it for a while last night and it was all sort of in good spirit everybody was kind of smiling as they were negative, but I thought this thing's gonna turn. Smiling is...

I mean, it's like, you know by like September, October, November, and I've voted in November, it's gonna get ugly. Thank goodness football season is... Oh. Oh my gosh. Oh. What would I do without it? Yeah, God. So this will be the show during all that ugliness that you can come over, laugh, get a few college

basketball betting tips, hear updates on his recti- Don't love the card tonight. That's how you would do it. Smiling while they're negative is a good thing to put on the tombstone of Colin Cowherd's career. I heard more fear there, because he was just like, oh man, who wants to watch this news stuff with what's going on? Oh crap, my bosses are gonna get mad at me.

But watch Fox News though, it's a bad matchup. He treated it like a sporting event. It's the rematch that no one wants. Let me ask the group your thoughts on what you just heard there, because I think, I mean, I think you realize with the politics of this country, the politics of sports and what focus groups would show on what the argument was around George Floyd and stick to sports, stick to sports.

In 2024, there will be safe havens on sports radio and sports media empires where you will just get the piece and the escape of sports and not any of the division because it's easier to do that than to be fighting. And it's the choice the businesses have made and I contaminate the jury pool when I say that. But how do you guys receive hearing that because that look at what's happening at that next network. Their ratings are climbing their

competing with the sb and nick right is the monster star of that network collin coward is building his own thing with shannon sharpen others apart and separate from that network but that network used to be the most divisive one now there are more divisive ones than that one and that one's gonna sit in the middle on we're just sports Don't worry about your politics But watch fight of Fox News as the the racist rapist criminal tries to topple democracy And we pretend like we didn't have anything to do with it. Here's our sports show We fed Bayless that vampire for 20 for 10 years

Never been excited for like a I mean at least in my adult life All I never ever been like I'm pumped for this election matchup. This is gonna be, this is gonna be, Merino Montana. At least in my adult life. I can't speak to it time before that. But check out DraftKings Network, there are bosses. That's the part that's the worst about this,

he's totally right. I fought for my, except the Fox News thing. No, I fought for fought for my, I fought for my right to fight politics. I want to talk politics. He's like nah, I just talk sports, you can make a lot of money. Yep, or you can dress like Willy Wonka and do it on your own. Yep, you are confident today man.

That's the shaft. That's the shaft man. Peroni's disease. Really? Tell me more. Go ahead. No, no, no, don't leave. No, no, no, no, no, don't leave. If it starts to bend like a carrot, man. Ah, okay.

You guys have never seen the commercials? You just say Peroni's disease? I have not seen that commercial. Your algorithm's different than mine, buddy. Yeah. Somebody please come in here and explain to me what just happened to Stugatz and his computer because he either read something wrong,

Stugatz very confidently did something there that I'm pretty sure was wrong. Can somebody walk me through this, please? What just happened there? Well, there's a carrot on the screen. Ha ha ha! Your shaft is bent and I was simply describing a, you know, something that some guys go through

with their shaft being bent. I've never heard of that. This is deep cut, though. Yeah. But are you pronouncing it correctly? Are you confident you're pronouncing it correctly? Oh no. I'm not kidding me no you pronounced it like

the Italian beer I believe Peroni's you did make it a pizza shop you did Ben chef pizza shop Don Lebatard Raven's good double up the Colts and they are good against every team except the Steelers I mean so that's a 14-point win there for the Ravens. Yeah Double up to touch that still gots. I think double up is a score Like if the Colts have 10 and you double them up you scored 20 I don't think you do it. I do it differently, but I don't think that double them up like you explained it to me I was my way understand but that's not technically doubling up like I think you used the phrase wrong or something happened Level up plus four. Yes. Okay. That's what he meant of course

Who touched down you never cease to amaze me. He's amazing. He really is he's just he's breathtaking in his stupidity This is the down level show with the stook ads still gots. So Chris Lowe published an article this week about the inner workings of how Nick Saban left Alabama and went to and they went and hired Kailin DeBourg. It was one of the more interesting articles I've read in a long time because it was like a super in depth look of just the 48 hours of Nick Saban leaving how that decision came to be made plus who were they going to hire. I didn't realize it came down to Mike Norvell and Kailin just the 48 hours of Nick Saban leaving, how that decision came to be made, plus who were they gonna hire? I didn't realize it came down to Mike Norvell

and Kailin DeBorne, it was so close. But I think the thing that was so interesting about this article was Nick Saban was so, so candid and why he decided to leave. He talked about how after the game, players were not all his players, but players were more concerned about, hey, am I gonna get a starting job next year? How much money are you going to be able to pay me?

And then all these little things started to come together where Nick Saban was like, hey, I'm done. It wasn't necessarily the loss to Michigan. It wasn't necessarily NIL. But he was very open about it being a combination of all these things that made him decide to leave the Alabama job, which is just like very jarring to hear of him being like, the times are changing and I'm just not changing with them anymore. Oh, but I thought this part was fascinating in its honesty, Stu Gantz, when Nick Saban, uh, when he retired, it seemed sudden. Everyone in sports is allowed to look at that and say, hold up,

this is a big deal that within 48 hours, he's going to give up the sport and that economy. And he's going to give up the sport and that economy And he's going to be honest on his way out when he talks to rice davis about i'm too old for this Both of our presidential candidates are older than him and the alabama job is moving too fast for nick saban The most interesting thing to me about the entire career of nick saban and i regret calling him a carpet a used car salesman a a snake oil salesman, a carpet, a vacuum cleaner salesman. When he left. You got there. When he left South Florida, I called him a lot of names on television and a lot of salesman names. Yes. I mean, look man, he sold the dolphins what I thought was a lie because he made a secret deal with Heizenga.

And Heizenga told him, if you don't like the pros, you can go back and I'll never criticize you. And he never did. They made that deal and Nick Saban went and conquered college sports in a way that he couldn't have. I was wrong there, famously, loudly wrong. Play the wrong song real quick as I segue into what I want to say about Nick Saban before I ask Lucy some questions.

You're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. As wrong as I've ever been, but I will say that for all the impressive things that Nick Saban has done in his career, I don't think he could do anything better than how he just nailed the exit because holy shitty gets out at the perfect time where he loses all the control you still don't think he's bad and now he could create a broadcasting job that

keeps him adjacent enough that he'll be entertaining on television by just being honest about he can be freers to god about being honest about how he got out, why he got out and be a voice that feels like a commissioner for college sports might not be interesting, but nailed the landing like perfect, perfect segue from one career into the next. He absolutely did. I think he's going to be great

as a broadcaster. I think there's a sneaky sense of humor in there somewhere with Nick Saban. Hopefully he'll continue to be honest, but you're right. He went out in the perfect way because he brought a team that many thought was one of his worst teams and he got them to the college for bullpup. But I understand why he's leaving Dan. At 72 years of age, there are so many changes to that sport.

He's lost control. He also just said in the article, it's just hard to do to that sport. He's lost control. He also just said in the article It's just hard to do at this point. He lost the control kids can leave whenever they want Oh guys though look one of the things that's so fascinating about this is that somehow it feels like within 48 hours Nick Saban looked up within 48 hours It feels like correct me if I'm wrong if the article had details lucy that i've got wrong here in giving over one of the the giant power economies in sports the reason this is perfect it's like the

slow-motion walk away from the explosion in the movies is because right when you think the game might have caught up to him where he doesn't have all of the advantages and the sport is caught up to him because oh look at what Texas did very quickly at the perfect time with a barely a loss to the national champion. You had the champions beat. Nick Saban says you know what the game caught up to me.

No never mind it's not going to catch up to me. I'm out. I'm not waiting for any more to come to my legacy. I'm not waiting for the for any more any any more to come to my legacy I'm getting out at the perfect time for me. The perfect time would be going out on top, right? You win it and you leave edge. I mean he did end on I do a world Yes, but Chris he brought it to some people say that was his best coaching job ever last year. I say that right there you go I think I do think it's funny It was still a five-star that with praying someone would agree with all the raises that Nick Saban has gotten over the years that

What kind of pushed him out was oh these guys want money and it's just a lot of stuff like I want to raise every year But this starting quarterback once more money I can't deal with this he never said that like paying players was bad and he specified that when he talked about it I think it was just the conversations you used to have after a season are no longer the conversations that you're still having. The power dynamic is different. No Chris, they weren't devastated by losing.

They were talking about where they're gonna transfer, where they're gonna get NIL money next year, that stuff that Saban doesn't wanna deal with anymore. Yeah, he even mentioned like he hated how the team responded to the loss, throwing helmets, like the whole vibe just seemed kind of off for Sabin and from like the What this article said he wasn't really sure. He went on vacation with Miss Terry and they tried to decide they didn't He comes back it felt like a sort of day of decision where he just kind of woke up and was like, you know what today is my last day

Who wouldn't want to retire that way? You just you just start like yeah Today I'm gonna do it and in a month, I'm gonna be the new person on game day. And everything is great, because I'm the best that's ever done it, what a life. I think I'm gonna start calling my wife, Miss Christie. I gotta be honest, I don't think we've had in the history of our show a whole lot things more charming than Lucy calling Nick Saban's wife, Miss Terry.

That's her name. I know, and every time you say it, we are delighted. We knew Miss Terry in town, I believe she told us. We have the audio somewhere of her admitting that he played like the ukulele or the... What did he play? He played some sort of weird instrument. Accordion. Maybe it was the accordion. Was that Tom Izzo? No, no, no.

That's Tom Izzo. That Tom Izzo? No, no, no. That's Tom Izzo. Tom Izzo as well. There's a, there's a, Miss Terry told us that Nick Saban, she revealed that as breaking news around here. The accordion really had a moment, huh? I feel like everyone was taking accordion lessons in the 60s and 70s. Dan, did you ever take accordion lessons?

I did not. Uh, but Chris has found this sound that we wrestled away from ESPN. Oh, my husband? Yes. When you're on the piano and he's on- He wouldn't be too happy if I tell you this, but as a young man he took accordion lessons. So wait a minute. Some dirt. You know like beer barrel polka, that kind of thing. So he comes in, so you're banging on the piano, the 19 the 19 year old Nicholas is on the guitar and he's coming in with a crappy accordion

The kid I babysit calls me miss Lucy and oh my god the feeling I get it is awesome The part that I meant actually Stug, that is the most fascinating about this, isn't him getting out perfectly because the game has caught up to him. It's because all of the things that Chris Cody is articulating there, which is, so you mean to tell me that at the very end, one of the great winners of all time,

who somehow built something stronger than what USC built in football with Pete Carroll at the University of Miami built that anyone has ever been that then anyone has ever built at the place. Okay, because this is big, big money. We're talking about in college football. That place doesn't have any preordained right to be great at football because everybody wants to live there.

Nick Saban built something when he had all the power and all the money that no one else can touch. And then as soon as George and Clemson get in the game and it starts rattling at the top of the entire infrastructure, the greatest thing Nick Saban has ever done is getting out in front of that in a way that will not be remembered on his legacy in In any way, he got out so perfectly

that right when it looked like all the advantages had slipped away from him, he put down his ego and said, I'll leave now, I'm the best. I don't have anything left to do here. You mentioned Clemson, it's happening to Dabo. Like Nick avoided that because what you're talking about, Dabo is going through right now. He was considered one of the great coaches of the game,

and now he's a guy who can't keep up with the game. I don't know how he wins more in retirement than he won as a coach, but like the, to get that ending, where no one's going to remember that the whole thing caught up to him at the end. That's why what he's done is so impressive though, going off of Stugac's comments about Dabo

because Dabo has the opportunity to reinvent himself the way that Saban had to do several times in his career. And right now we'll see if Dabo's able to do that, but Saban was. Oh, but it's so hard. I mean, when George is in the game, it is so like, it's such an unfair standard. Clemson was shit for so long.

Texas is in the game. Dabo being in the money game made no sense. Clemson has never deserved to be in the money game. I think something that makes Nick Saban even more impressive is he went through coordinators like it was nobody's business. He had like probably 11 coordinators while he was at Alabama and no matter what,

never skipped a beat. Like it was so impressive and yeah, Dabbo can't say that. Speaking of which Tyler He well, he's too loyal. That's one of the main criticism about dabo is that like if it's not working with someone He's too hesitant to cut ties, but speaking of Saban assistants. I saw one of them in coral gables last week I was going to Asia Wilson's book signing at Books and Books and I was walking down the sidewalk and turn a corner signing at Books and Books, and I was walking down the sidewalk and turned a corner, Dan, and I gasped because Mario Cristobal was eating dinner at a table on the sidewalk right in front of me wearing his issue gear, and I think he heard me gasp and we made eye contact

and I just walked past him and I didn't say anything. Was Mike there? Mike was, no. I feel like we might get them in NIL trouble. Well, there's no rules anymore. Yeah, let's pretend Mike was there You you kind of buried the entirety of the lead though what and it was a great bookside But that you that you would went to a bookside. No, well not just a bookside that look man Miami does not do bookstores. Well bookstores in general are hurting

Her wanting to go see Asia Wilson to get because because it's a cool thing to do, and getting starstruck on the way there by Cristobal, because she's a college football dork, when the thing that she was going to do was much cooler than the lunch she happened upon. You're absolutely right, which is why I forgot about it until five seconds ago when I was reading the article about Nick Saban. Yeah, it was one of those things where like, I think if it were probably any other head football coach at any other school, I would have stopped and said hi because we made eye contact, but because it was someone that we have made fun of so much

on the show. I just buried my shame and walked by. Well, the show has a problem right now. Chris Cody, I ask you as the new executive, you know, aiming for the new executive producer position, we have like some decisions that we have to make around here content-wise. And Jessica, I failed at news today, but Jessica being starstruck by Cristobal. And I don't even, I don't know.

And avoiding him. I don't, I. And avoiding him. I don't know. I needed a shaft. And then avoiding him because we've made fun of him and me having the extra issue. Chris, this is what I need help with. Mike Ryan is boycotting Paul Pierce. Mike Ryan has gotten us in trouble with Terry Rosear. He's gotten us in trouble with the heat because his passions boil and guys like Juju

are here to defend Terry Rosear. He's played well, I mean. No, but our show, why does our show keep ending up on the wrong side of these things? Mike has put us in some bad spots, although I put myself in a bad spot by giving, Lucy and I gave him, what was the footy, Lucy? The Mario Christopher Award for Game Management. So that's our bad. giving, Lucy and I gave him, what was the footy, Lucy, the Mario Chris Ball Award for game management?

So that's our bad. Well Lucy's bad. Yeah, I'll take the blame. Mike came up here the other day who was like, Terry Rose here shot four air balls in the one game, but he didn't mention that boy, Terry Rose just got like 12 points in a row that kept him in the game in the fourth quarter.

He only sees the misses. Right, they was only in that game because of Terry Rose here and he's been playing better, bro. Jeremy Tashay called it. Jessica, this is, honestly, it is a bit of innocence here that I am enchanted to discover. Have you in public had any other interactions with famous people where you wordlessly make eye contact

and you think to yourself, has this person heard me making fun of him? Does he know that he has a footy? Hmm, it probably happened at Radio Row, but I will not say who. So what happened is the eye contact you made is that you wondered to yourself, does Mario Cristobal know that I awarded him

a footy for game management? It wasn't just the eye contact, it was the gasp and then the eye contact.