The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Tony's Billy Moment (feat. Matthew Berry)

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

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I heard that Yeti, who is a fundamentally decent person, great talent and a never-ending hustler, I heard that he was furious with Jason Benetti, who is one of the most decent people that there have ever been. What is the nature of the feud? Well, Jason Benetti heard the Pooka Poka and claimed that there were 12 key changes and was critical of the Tua lyrics, clearly not getting the show, because obviously Tua is a really important part of the Puka Nakua song that we have from before. But what he said specifically to me, and I think several others, is Jason Benetti would not know a key change if it hit him in the face. Yeah, he was furious. He called me. He's like, we got to get him on the Greg Cody show. I need to tell him that he didn't. wouldn't know if it hit him in the, he wouldn't know a key change if it hit him on the broadside.

The broadside, huh? Broadside of what? He just didn't want to repeat exactly what Jeremy had just said moments before. So the quote that he sent to everybody. I have the exact quote right here. Benetti wouldn't know a key chain if it bit him in the ass. There are zero. Just one chord

that makes it feel like a change. An indignant Yeti on behalf of his vigilant protection of no key change. In all fairness to Yeti. What the hell does Jason but any know about key change? That's true. I wanted to ask you guys something here before we get into the matter of the Philadelphia 76ers and are they really going to be better. We let that slip, Tony. Yeah, no, no, no. It's a long day. I had a long

night last night. Just know, I heard that. No, no, I know. I felt the horse's master into me. Well, you guys are all in a state of disrepair here because of last night. And I will say, because I don't want to move away from it too quickly, even though it is self-involved. And even though You guys are always making fun of me for the amount of time that I spend cornered at those things. Or you say I'm cornered even though I'm deeply appreciative of our customers because they allow us to do the things that we do at being fiercely independent here at a time of great media turbulence. We are very well positioned as the economy is about to fall apart and the media is falling apart. We are very well positioned because we knew that those people would catch us when we left the ESPN. We just knew it.

a lot of people can say that they just know it. And the reason I know it is because I see it every time we go do anything like this. I know Juju sees it online and online can be a pretty toxic experience, but Juju knows how these people feel about us. And when they come and show us, I say to everyone, and I mean it, it is the deepest of sincerity. I appreciate those people as much as they appreciate us because they are our business. is like they show up every time we ask them to they show up in droves moved emotionally and it makes me emotional this deep into our careers to have young people specifically young people who have this passed down from their parents and getting the yeah i was listening in the back of the car i've been listening for 21 years to allow an old sports writer to still reach young people like i can't be more grateful for it than i am so i I am genuinely moved by it every time we do something like this. It is wild the difference in reactions you get in person and online.

Like, I'm always thinking when I have a nice interaction with somebody in person, I'm like, have you ever told me you hate me online? Right. Fun fact, and this is between us. This is this guy who've been coming at me online for like a year and a half now. He's been sending me all kind of bad messages and stuff like that, how he hates the sound of my voice and all of that. And then last night I saw him because I remember.

No way. The first thing he touched me, he was like, ooh, brother, you're taller and bigger than I thought you was. How are you doing? Can I get a picture? So, salute to the fans, but I remember. That seems like that's the opposite of salute to the fans. I remember and I'm muscular and I'm strong and I'm bigger than you.

Keep the energy. If you're going to have the energy to call me out of names online, when you see me, say the same thing. Well, this is much easier to do anonymously. Look, the Internet has created all manner of acid and poison that there. There's no accounting for that has changed. Even the athlete says, I mean, says, and Juju says, like, they're different today than they were before in protection of their brand because of how it is that people can be on the internet. There's a cruelty to it. But one of our contest winners yesterday in a sheepish moment came over to me and said, yeah, first time I heard him on the show, I texted in.

his name should be Pablo Bore that's okay it's a good line oh man all right it's getting worse and worse you're doing it worse and worse

on purpose so I don't keep going to it like I see your move even though I can't see your face I see what's happening there I wanted to ask you guys before we get to the Sixers the movement in baseball

ball that I have seen happen since Moneyball that is super interesting. And this was shown in film by Brad Pitt making Philip Seymour Hoffman seem like a fool when Art Howe was winning as the manager of the A's 90 games a season. But Billy Bean saw the revolution of analytics and math. And so the nationals have just hired Blake Boutera. He is, as their manager, he is 33 years old. This is after the Giants have gone into the college ranks for the first time to get a college baseball manager named Tony Vitello. And I wanted to ask you to look up for me, how many players on the nationals are older than the manager? Because this is as young as managers get. I'm assuming that there hasn't been a manager this young in more than 50 years,

if there's ever been one this young, 33 years old. And it's because the reason this is happening more than any other is the front offices have taken over to such an effect in terms of controlling the information and the power that they want someone in the dugout who is quite literally a middle manager on you are the spot you're not in charge you're not the skipper of the ship you're not you are the guy who's managing the clubhouse for us but you will be somebody who does the work of the front office in that clubhouse and if a 33 year old can do it even though the job is people management we need somebody who's a bridge between front office information and power and those players.

And so you can make them younger. If those guys are going to come from data and computers and I know the analytics of the game, you can keep making them younger if all you want in that clubhouse is someone who connects to players of that age and is going to be an informational bridge between the front office is in charge and you will do this the way that the front office wants it done. You can hire them at 29, 25, and you'll find Sean McBed. Sean McVease, you will if there are people who have grown up from a generation of it doesn't matter so much if you want to be in charge guy. You're going to be guy who's middle manager

on behalf of the front office. So you said Buteris 33. There was only one player on the Nationals at the moment who was 33 years old. That's Josh Bell. 32 year old Jorge Alfaro is the next oldest player, which is crazy because I feel like we all remember when he was like 24 years old with the Marlins. But this is part of, I know we all remember Juju in particular. But But we, when you look at what the Marlins did this year, right, so much of what their communication style was with their managers that allowed a lot of those guys to overachieve with the manager and the coaching staff was that guys like Carson Vitale, their bench coach,

just a young guy who knew how to properly communicate with that roster because there wasn't such a difference between who they were. Their catching coach, Joe Singley is 27 years old. Like, that's who their catching coach was working with the 22, and 23-year-olds. So that's the type of bridge that you want to have. Is this only working in baseball, right? Because of the fact that everything is so analytical, everything is so by the numbers. You have all these people just doing all this math. And then the managers, they're kind of like, all right, yeah, you, you. But it's like,

they're really doing it from up top. In basketball does that work? In football, does that work? In college football and college hoops? Like, is that something that could be replicated where the coaches can get younger because of the information that's being shared? It's a job generally that requires the respect of the employees. So in baseball, for example, what has been problematic from that position in the past is players who do not like a manager who wasn't any good as a player. Like that was something in the previous age that my manager better have been somebody who was good at baseball. Otherwise, why is he here telling me anything about anything? But this shift has been so dramatic. Is it

something that's happening in basketball? I mean, because Eric Spolstra was a young man. We've seen him get old, but he was, he began this job as a young man, and he began this job specifically as a young man who was going to be a bridge to the front office. I think when you are a player, or the players in the NBA, there is a level of built-in respect that happens when you're a former player. Like that, you get through the door immediately, okay, I'll hear you out. But then once that initial respect is over, the thing they respect is preparation and knowledge. right like it's you are ready for every scenario and that's the thing where the non-playing coaches they might have a higher barrier of gaining the trust but typically the reason why they're there to

begin with is because they're very prepared and they know what they're talking about and so that's the stuff so we talk about spo talk about mike brown right like these are all guys um uh brad stevenson obviously uh brad stevens excuse me when he was coaching uh these are all guys that weren't players, but the players really respected, man, this guy really knows his stuff. Like, when I ask him a question, he's got an answer or an idea. Now, when you don't have that, when you lack that ability, or if you lack an ability to be inclusive in decision-making, that's when they start to turn. Oh, the football season.

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Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see it. Mother Ethel is. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg.

My microphone's on. Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. It is funny, though, because I do remember

I don't remember the player, but I do remember the story of Lenny Wilkins is one of the winningest coaches ever. And a player, because he was around so long and was so old, was like, oh, are you played? Oh, yeah. And it's like, you didn't know that Lenny Wilkins was great. But there's other stories like Paul Silas. Who did he stuff into a locker, one of his players? Taras Thomas. Because he just proved him that I played.

Look, that's an old coach, but didn't he just physically throw him into a locker? Well, Coach Salas is a big man, man. And I've told the story before. My first job in the NBA was working for the Hawks, and Rick Mahorn was an assistant coach. Rick Mahorn is the first NBA person I legitimately knew. He knocked over the boxes on my first day, and we've been friends ever since.

Physically imposing. Absolutely. Rick Mahorn is terrifying. So we had like a meet and greet where the fans after the game could get autographs, because Rick's famous for a team that won like 20 games. We were like, oh, but that guy's a champion. So there's a long line of fans.

Rick's signing. And we had just played, I want to say the calves, and Coach Silas has done all his postgame stuff, and he comes up, and he goes like this, I'm standing next to Rick, because of crowd control, whatever. He goes like this to me, and then walks and slaps the ever-living shit out of the back of Rick Moran's neck. I mean, pop! And I've never seen Rick angry at me before. It was steam, and he's going to kill me. He was going to kill me, right? It didn't matter how many witnesses.

And then he looks and he sees it, it was Paul Silas, and he just starts laughing. And I said, oh, wait, hold on. Well, you already kill me. And he's like, that's a bad man right there. That's Rick Mahorn telling me like, I'm not going to try Paul Silas. Tell people the story, because I don't remember the details, obviously. Paul Silas took one of his 6-11 players. Tyrus Thomas, 6-9.

Threw him in a locker? As an old man. Yeah, this is when he's coaching the Bobcats. The Bobcats are terrible. Tyrus Thomas had come from Chicago. he had signed a big deal. There was an expectation that he was going to be a star. It really didn't work out that way.

But allegedly, I don't know. But like they got into a shouting match and then the shouting match got physical and he hemmed them up and threw him into the locker. People think about like stuffed into the locker like high school and shit. Like Pablo Tori style. Yeah, Pablo Tori's style.

That's how it happened. It's like he shoved them backward into his locker. And NBA lockers, if you haven't seen him, are massive. You know what that is, though? I mean. Old man string? Oh, black man. the highest quality it's been an epic battle going on why y'all been talking about this

seriousness damn between you and that hat bray if you're going to keep it on or off he was mid sentence and took the hat off and put it back on this is part of the joy and frustration and for the audience the fun of the absurdity of wearing what is the shittiest costume i've ever had on i could feel this material seems like rayon, and this is coming from a man who spent $34 on a brown suit for bad bunny. So I know. That's it with $34? I know.

I know what cheap materials sound like, look like. Jeremy, can you look up for me how old Paul Silas was when he did this? Because was he, he's in his late 50s when he's taking, no, when he's taking an NBA player. He was a lot older then. He was an old man. Like, he was an old man when he slapped the shit out of Rick Mahorn. Okay. So you're saying that Paul.

Silas, when I said late 50s, you're going to put him in his late 60s? He was 69. Yep. Nice. So a 69-year-old Paul Silas took a power forward, took a power forward who was in his prime and threw

him into a locker. That is old black man strength and that must be the highest quality of strength. Put it on the poll. Is Paul Silas's 69-year-old old man, black man's strength? highest quality of strength. Can I make a confession?

I thought your outfit the other day was the dick in the box. I didn't know that was bad bunny. He looked like the dick in the box, you know, the lowly island thing. Yeah, from SNL. No, he didn't look like a dick in the skin. He's six, seven. The Philadelphia 76ers is all of that real. They are undefeated.

I saw they came back strong against the Wizards. They were down in that game and they ended up winning that game. But it's not possible, is it? It's not possible that Daryl Morey would get celebrated for the idea of pairing Paul George with Joel Embed, and then it's going to be Maxie and Edgecom, make them better than they were with Paul George and Joe L&B? That's not possible, is it? Then, I don't know. It's pretty amazing.

Go ahead. I got a hot take, bro. I think it sticks a trade, Joe L&B, and Paul George right down now. get it over with rip the band-aid off but what do you get for for joel mbid 20 cents on the dollar a quarter on the dollar for joel mb like he's too good of a player to ship something to ship off somewhere else right let's say miami has a play for him they buy him for 20 cents on the dollar and then somehow he gets revitalized here and then all sixers nations like wait a second we got what for him a second round pick what are your thoughts here i mean on is joel

like joel mbid i've heard a lot of washed finished and i'm like can that be because uh we've seen the evolution, we've seen the revolution. When that player first arrived in the league, my thoughts were not unlike with Victor Wembeyanama, wait a minute, that's going to be dominant for 10 years. That size is not something I'm used to shooting threes. Like, he's at the very beginning of what all of that was. The Carl Anthony Towns where you're like,

whoa, that's from distance, something that's never shot like that at that size. You guys are willing to say not merely trade Joel Embed now when his value is lower than it's been ever, but you're also at spent, that the body is spent, that he is physically washed and will not recover. I think it's about his preparation. I saw a story from Marcus Morris and Marquith Morris that before the 70-point game he had last year, he did not warm up at all before the game. He got there 20 minutes before the game and just played the game. and felt like, oh, man, this is too easy. And I think that has soaked into his brain thinking it's easier to get by as him

versus put in the hard work. Like they did in past generations that set the stage for the game. No, the thing about Joel and B, Dan, is a couple things. Number one, health. Are these injuries resolved? It doesn't seem so.

He's on a minute's restriction right now playing 20 minutes a game because that's the only way you can have them out there without fear of him falling apart. Number two, and this is huge. This July, ESPN, published a great feature on him by Dothun Akintoye about Joel Embed. And if you read it, you'll learn a lot more about him as a person and the personality things

and the traumas that he's experienced which had led him to become the person he is today. And it did two things. One, it greatly humanized him in a way that even I didn't think I gave him enough credit for what he'd been through. But two, that motherfucker don't trust nobody. No, but Dan, he's leaving $20 bills on the table to see if someone would steal it. When you have a superstar who does not trust his teammates, who does not trust his coaching staff, who does not trust his front office, even if it's justified, it's very hard to build a championship contender around that.

And that trust goes down, he doesn't even trust his own body, right? Like, that's kind of the oldest the biggest thing. He's, he's, I was just talking to Amin about Wembe and the comparison with Joel M.B. when you were making, Dan, it's like, Wembe is so fleet of foot, he's so thin, he's so nimble in a way that Joel Embed is the complete opposite, right? He's just, like, big and plotting, he's so menacing and huge, but the problem is, like, he makes one move, and it's like he falls like a statue, and he just doesn't have the ability or the agility to, like, make things and get out of the way when he can get

hurt. Dan, one of the things, an excerpt from this excellent piece, I urge everyone to read it, says, those who need to reach him do so through his assistant or his wife his replies can take months quote i have a reputation of being a not a good texter adding that he probably has 10,000 unread messages you're kidding the writer says joel reaches for the phone taps the screen and leads forward to show more than 9,500 unread text 875 missed calls some of the messages are years old quote i just can't do it, he says. I ask who this annoys most in his life, quote, everybody. You guys describing Joel Embed as big and plotting? I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

Like, when that guy came out, when that guy came out of college, I'm like, that's physically changing the sport in a way that makes me about, think about Shaq, like, shack reminiscent in terms of size. nimble as hell like a whole I don't think of him as big and plotting until you remind me how often he's on the floor and you remind me that during the playoffs oh he got his face

totally broken tried to play through it he had a dunk that I thought his career ended when he landed and he played soon thereafter like next game where I thought his career was over the moment that he landed but I'm not ready yet for you guys to tell me the athlete has evolved so much that

Joe L. Embed is big and plotting like you cannot say that to my face say in the last five years that athlete's body has deteriorated so much and the sport has changed so much that he is no longer somebody who's as athletic as just about anything I've seen in the sport. But Dan, he fell on the floor and somebody fell on him and he tore his meniscus. Like that doesn't happen. Like meniscus tears happen when somebody rolls up on you. You bend the knee this way. You do that. Like he has injuries where you're like he had Bell's palsy. I know that that's a different story. But it's like how many freak things can happen to one person?

Well, that's that's stress related. And I do. I want to get to Matthew Barry. because he's here to give away money and he's done this the last couple of weeks. Like the thing that he just did in that Jets Bengals game, that was a magic trick where he's like, yeah, all the running backs. They're just going to be spilling money all over the field if you want to pick it up. Just take the running backs for the Jets and you will be wealthy beyond your wildest dreams if you follow Matthew Berry's advice. But just getting back to the trust thing real quick before we onboard Matthew Barry.

The quotes that came from Joel Embed, after there were some leaks in the 6th, locker room that felt to me like quotes of somebody who's just looking around all the time wondering who's going to betray me next. I don't trust anybody. That seemed like a poison to me that would really hurt somebody when they were away from the facility and make them not want to come to the facility that information leaked during a meeting and it didn't seem like he trusted anybody in his huddle. Which is ironic because his nickname is the process and Philly always wants you to trust the process. And I think that this stage of the process is

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We want to take out the competition. The substance. This balance is not working. And the naked gun. That was awesome. Now that's a mountain of entertainment. Don Lebertard. Well, Charlie sent, uh, Charlie had this,

Charlie as far as I know. So just Charlie's title in my phone. Are you going to say anything? Stugats. How familiar were you at the time with Chewbacca? Like your upbringing had how much Chewbacca in it? This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Oh, look, the horse wants its music.

The horse wants its imaging. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. He's giving away money. I'm not kidding you.

He has all of the advantages, all of the efficiencies. Matthew Barry, what do you have for us this week? I'm writing it down because you are the only reason I'm not losing money on the weekends. I've been losing money on the weekends for several years now because I make too many bets on things that are wrong. But you have information that's better than mine. So let's hear it. Happy to help out, Dan. Happy Halloween to everyone out there. Only one team in the NFL allows more fantasy points for game to opposing quarterbacks from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Five of the last six quarterbacks to face the Steelers have thrown for at least two touchdown passes. Maybe you take the over there, especially with Daniel Jones. By the way,

quarterbacks who face the Steelers also average 293 passing yards. Some prop betting advice for you. There's where I like Daniel Jones this week. How about Sam Donald in two of the last three games? He's finished as a top 10 fantasy quarterback. He's had at least two touchdown passes in four of the last six. And since week two, only one team in the NFL gives up more fantasy points who are opposing quarterbacks than my beloved Washington commanders. Sigh. Sam Donald, of course, plays them. Every single game this year, every single game this year. Every single game this here. The Cincinnati Bengals have allowed at least 87 yards from scrimmage to an opposing running back. Running backs that have seen at least 12 touches against the Bengals this year,

averaging over 20 fantasy points for game. DeAndre Swift, who plays the Bengals this week, has had at least 13 touches in every game this season. DeAndre Swift did not practice yesterday, so it's worth grabbing Kyle Monongay, because if he, if Swift is out, Monongai would be a very interesting running back two this week against Sincey. Tyrone Tracy has had eight career games in which he's had at least 15 touches. And in those games. Of those eight games, he averages 15 fantasy points. By the way, the Giants six in running back target share against the 49ers who are bottom 10 and most fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs. Of course, no Cam Scadaboo, Tyrone Tracy, in for a big workload this weekend.

As is Bam Knight, Bam Knight of all people. Over the last two games that he's played, Bam Knight actually has 29 touches, 29 touches, including 80% of the Cardinals' goal-to-go rush attempts. And over the last four weeks, only one team of the NFL has given up more rushing to opposing running backs than the Dallas Cowboys who Bam Knight plays. I mean, let's not get crazy. It's Bam Knight. But still, you could do worse and probably have. Hey, speaking of the Cowboys in every game this year but one, the Cowboys have allowed at least 17 fantasy points to an opposing wide receiver. No team in the NFL has a lot more touchdowns on deep passes than the Dallas Cowboys. Forty-three percent of Marvin Harrison's targets this year have come on deep passes,

kind of like Marvin Harris over on the longest reception as well. Last week in his first game back, Christian Watson had a 65% route participation. His average depth of target was over 18 yards, 18.2 to be exact. And for the last five games, the Carolina Panthers have allowed at least one touchdown to a wide receiver. Final one here. And his last game before his week eight by, I know he's on the injury report. So watch this.

But if he plays, before he went on the buy, Travis Hunter had a 30% target share and 89% route participation. Both numbers are season high. The Raiders allow the highest catch rate in the NFL to slot wide receiver. Travis Hunter runs 40% of his routes out of the slot. Love me some Oh, I'm sorry. I think we're going to hurt you here. I think we're going to hurt you

on Travis Hunter, right? Matthew Berry Jaguar's wide receiver cornerback, Travis Hunter was hurt during practice Thursday and will be put on IR and missed at least four games according to Liam Cohen. No. I knew he was on the injury report. I didn't know he had come out that he was serious. Like the last I had heard, I

driving in and just saw this. So that is disappointing. But yeah, you know what that means? Parker Washington Parker Washington who's a slot wide receiver like who the hell's is Parker Washington

he's a slot wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars and yeah that's a that's a tough break for Travis Hunter but that's good to know wow that that must have just come out literally five minutes ago

okay okay good on your fantasy life app by the way I get my I get my notification for the fantasy life while we're sitting there staring at you in that ridiculous bow tie simulation

you had information sneak past you and I looked at your face and the despair that came across your face hurt me on your behalf, not because you embarrassed yourself publicly, but because you'd lost the money of Travis Hunter has an advantage this weekend. I researched this so thoroughly. You do not understand how hard it is to find these golden gems in the mountain of information that there is in football every week, and yours immediately became outdated. Yes, yes, maybe it will, we got Travis Hunter up there on the

wall, so we'll have to adjust that. It's a bummer there. I got one more for you then, because we lost out on Hunter. How about this? In three of the past four weeks, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts has actually finished as a top 12 tight-in. So far this year, the Patriots allow the fifth-most fantasy points to opposing tight-ins. Drake London has been a little bit banged up missed last week.

I actually think Kyle Pitts is usable this week. Check out Matthew's Fantasy Football Happy Hour weekdays live on YouTube at noon Eastern. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry. Matthew Barry Thank you, Matthew, enjoy Halloween.

You are making sure that our listeners are enjoying all of their Sundays because the information he is giving has been parlayed into money in ways that are fairly obvious and unusual. Thank you. You will rarely get more gratitude from our listeners than when you give them money. And the information that he is providing is providing dollars. Can we bury all things dolphins here permanently because I don't know where you go? He just mentioned the Bengals defense and I don't know whether the Dallas defense is the worst defense in the league.

But the dolphin defense doesn't have very many players that anybody would want. And the trading deadline is Tuesday. And I don't know who is going to be moved. But I cannot remember covering the team in this market of a time when a roster had so few pieces that you're going to build around for tomorrow. Like so few pieces that anyone else in the league would want. I'm not being prisoner of the moment when I tell you. They went so all in on we're going to do this with Tyreek Hill and we're going to do it right now. and we're going to gamble in a way

that will be all or nothing that we're presently living the nothing. Like, there are just not reasons to hope. Okay, I'll build around that guy. Like, even if you're excited about A-chan, do you realize how quickly they're burning through his body at a position in the league where they tell you that's disposable?

We'll go get the next guy after we've burnt through this one's body. In terms of defensive guys that have value, I would say Chop Robinson probably has a little value and Zach Seeler. I'm just saying, though, like Chop Robinson has looked good as a young player and Zach Sealer just got paid. I think outside of that, it's bleak. Jalen Phillips might also be moved and might. He's not a good tackler and he's the king of almost, but Jalen Phillips might also have some marginal value. But you're not bringing back much, so it's not like the trade deadline is going to get you. excited. And when Tony's sitting here saying Kyler Murray and my ears are perking up because I'm guessing that Dolphin fans would get excited about Kyler Murray because it would at least be, well, if we can't block, it's someone who can move.

Just run around. If we're going to spend 20 years of draft picks on offensive linemen without ever being able to block somebody, how about we do it differently? We'll have the guys who can't block and we'll have a quarterback who can move away from him. I mean, he'd be the most entertaining quarterback that we've had. I know Tua put up 70 points, but that was a product of all of the entertaining pieces around him and an entertaining coaching style. Like, he'd be the most exciting quarterback of my lifetime watching the Dolphins. And if you can get a guy like him for decent value, it'd be the first time ever that they'd be acquiring a talented quarterback for good value because they took to a high in the draft. They took Ryan Tannahill high in the draft, both of those guys underachieving from where you got them. So Kyler Murray, who was the number one overall pick, theoretically you'd be buying low, and he can run around.

That's more exciting than a guy who literally can't leave the pocket without us worrying he's going to die. That is true. I saw something on Twitter. I'm trying to remember exactly what it is. I'll try to pull up the article once I'm done finish talking. But there was a trade, not rumor, but a trade, you know, thing that, my bad. What? Tony, the way you started that, if I played it back to you, you're going to be mortified by the way that you started.

You want to start again? Yeah, because I'm trying to do the picture thing in my mind where I'm trying to remember exactly who it was. was and I'm trying to go through it and it's tough. So what the, what the trade, you know, thing is. Tony, Tony, all right, let's regroup here. Let's regroup. Let's, let's, let's just, it's be an article. Let's just, hold on. Let's just clean the palette. I know the billy chair got you and it happened sometimes in the ghost of Billy chair. Let's go ahead and get Roy so that we give Tony some time to restart here. Let's just get some of the clips of Billy yammering so that we can just show Tony here what not to do

because the way that he started that when I replay that back for him all of it, he's going to be truly mortified and I want to cleanse his palate so he can go into the weekend feeling better about himself than he presently does. So, Billy can yammer, Billy can

start a point and then never get to the end of the point and Roy, if you could just find for me a couple of the Billy classic just to give Tony time to regroup and figure out how he wants to refer how he wants to refer to trade information. Well, Charlie sent, Charlie had this,

Charlie as far as I know, so just Charlie's title in my phone. Are you going to say anything? All right, Tony. How about Billy showing up to the watch along yesterday? That was great. Yeah, it was fun to see him. It was nice. Everybody was super moved that Billy was there and keeping the spirit alive.

Well, television adds 10 pounds. Oh, that's right. And inches. You ready to restart? Okay. So there was a trade article written of trades that could happen in the future getting to the deadline, right? One of the trades being positioned was Tua, to the Raiders, plus two attached second round picks for the Dolphins, sending them over to the Raiders, getting in return like a fifth round pick. So that's where the value is as far as Tua and his contract.

So when you talk about trading for Kyler Murray or trading for somebody else, that's the value for your highest paid position is two second rounders. You have to shift to a team that's terrible to get their fifth round pick back to you. How is that? Yeah, all right. Yeah, good job. Yeah, yeah. You got.

Yeah, all right. If we're going to play sounds that make people feel slightly better, let's get that Tracy Morgan video and sound so that we can have something that feels sweet here. You want to give me some context for this? I mean, I don't know the entirety of this. I just know that it's sweet. Yeah, this is after a Nick game and where the

celebrities exit from the garden people tend to hang around because they know they can get autographs and pictures and whatnot. And so this young fan sees Tracy Morgan as he's getting into his car and he's like, oh, Tracy, Tracy, Tracy, and the driver's actually closing

the door and Tracy stopped the door from being closing, hold on, let me talk to this kid. and this is the interaction that happens. You said what you're doing? What's you doing? You're with your pop? Yeah. That's your pop?

Yeah. Take care of it. You only get one. You hear me? Yeah. He love you. There's no way in the world you can possibly know how much that man love you.

Okay. You know what you're going to know? Will you have your own son? Okay. That's what you're going to say. Now I know what my father would have did for me. Okay. Everything.

I love you. Thank you, Jason. Yo, yo, yo, what's your name? Nico. I'm Tracy. You friends? Yeah. Come sitting there.

High five, man. Listen, friends. Nico. Howl at you later? Go Nick. It's just an awesome, he didn't have to do any of that. He could have just took the picture with the kid and kept him moving. And he, like, to reemphasize the kid that, yo, your dad is looking out for you here and he loves you.

And you don't understand the capacity of that with which he loves you. It's just like, that's an interaction that kid's going to remember forever. kid's going to remember forever, right? And again, like, we talk about Charles a lot, because Charles is that kind of guy. It's like, you meet Charles Barkley. You're not just going to say, oh, I got a picture of Charles Barkley. You're going to have a story about, oh, man, he asked me where I was from, and I told him this, and he made some, like, those interactions, they mean so much on the other end. And so last night was kind of like that. You know, I had a lot of that in my mind because of that Tracy Morgan. I thought that was a very cool interaction. And culturally,

to go with what you said earlier about you know, I mean, black people and how they perceived, I think this is awesome because from that young age he knows we're friends. Like, I think that was the most important thing as well. That was awesome. But Tracy Morgan isn't going to holler at him later.

Dan, that's a lesson on how to have an interaction with a fan where it's like a minute and it's like you get it all in. Like, you with these seven minute conversations, there's like a line of 50 people trying to see you and you're talking for like eight minutes to one guy. It's like, we've got to have a time thing here. Just the way the mouth moves

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