The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Tony's Top 5 Returns (feat. Mark Kelly)

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

Arizona Senator Mark Kelly joins us to share his reaction to the tragic killing of Charlie Kirk yesterday. He offers his thoughts on how we solve the emergence of political violence in America, shares his own experience with gun violence after his wife Gabby Giffords was shot, and tells us why finger pointing does nobody any good. Before leaving, Dan transitions in a way only he can and manages to get Senator Kelly's opinion on Kyler Murray. After that, Tony shares his Top 5 and we play win/loss with some teams around the NFL. Plus, only 185 more Ray Hudson sounds to go! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Senator Mark Kelly, he's a former U.S. Navy combat pilot. He's an astronaut. He's now the Senator for Arizona. Thank you for joining us, Senator. What was your immediate reaction upon hearing the news yesterday that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot and killed in front of a crowd in Utah. Well, I was horrified, as I think most Americans were and should be. I mean, this political violence like this, you know, has no place in our society. And it really demonstrates kind of the

worst of us. We've seen this kind of, you know, violence on, you know, both sides. We saw what happened to Melissa Hortman and a couple months ago and her husband in Minnesota killed. what happened to my wife, Gabby Giffords, you know, shot in the head in 2011. So we see this over and over again. And, you know, to me lately, I mean, the thing that, you know, immediately comes to mind is the horrible situation that his wife and kids and parents and siblings, you know, now find themselves in. You know, I've had, you know, sort of that experience. My wife in 2011, she survived. she's got you know serious and significant disability because of it um we shouldn't have you know this

in our country happen over and over and over again how do we stop it how do we stop it i think this is a you know combination of you know some factors i think that brought us here you know certainly you know on one side it's just how we've divided we've become politically i also think you know that there is just easy access to firearms. We have a very high rate of gun violence in general, over 100,000 people are shot and killed every year in our country. We are like no other developed, you know, country in the world when it comes to when it comes to gun violence. So how do we stop it? I mean, we could strengthen our gun laws. We could also try to find opportunities to just bring us together. You know, I serve in the United States Senate as a Democrat, and, you know, I've got strong relationships with my Republican colleagues.

I think the, I think the general public just thinks it's actually more, maybe more contentious and divisive than it actually is in Washington. The media, I'm not saying you guys, but the media often highlights negativity. there are a lot of positive things and there there are times when we we should work to bring this country together I think this is one of those times that all sounds good but it doesn't sound much like a solution and I know we have these conversations every time but it seems like we've lost our sense of humanity in in this landscape so I'm sure you noticed right that the conversation immediately goes to gun laws and then politics just take aside and blame another side and the humanity gets lost in there somewhere.

Well, I think it's fair to blame both sides. I mean, that that is, you know, the reality of the situation we live it. And I also think it's short-sighted to ignore gun laws, you know, in our country. I mean, we've got, you know, weak gun laws. We have high rates of gun crime. Those things are clearly connected. You look around the country and, you know, states that have stronger laws have less gun violence. You know, that's that's clear. I think at this moment, what we should be thinking about

is Charlie Kirk's family. And, you know, his wife, his children, he's got a three-year-old and a one-year-old that are going to grow up without their dad. And that's just horrible. But if you want to get to, you know, how do we prevent, you know, future, you know, acts like this, we have to find a way to unite this country. We've got to have leaders that are really willing to, you know, step out there and, you know, say this isn't who we are and not like vilify Democrats or Republicans. That does often happen. And I've seen it. You know, I saw it in 2011 when Gabby got shot and I, you know, see it over and over and over again. But I could tell you this, if we don't work to, you know, trying to fix this, this could get a lot worse. I think we're at a moment in our country's

history a lot like it was in the 1960s, how divided we were then, and you saw rising political assassinations. And this was a political assassination. I mean, we don't know the exact motivation of this person. And we don't know how he got the gun or who he was yet. I think we will find out those things out. But I think it's clearly that this was political. To that extent, though, the man-hunt for his killer, for Charlie Kirk's killer, is still underway after two suspects were previously taken under custody and released. How does that happen? How is that possible? Well, you know, I'm the son of two cops. You know, these things are challenging. I've also lived through this with, you know, my wife and investigation and, you know, her assailant or the guy that, you know,

did this and killed six individuals was apprehended at the scene. This is different. It's complicated. Um, you know, the FBI and law enforcement took these two individuals into custody, questioned them, released them. I could see how that could happen. You know, when they have a suspect, they, you know, they should be taking those kind of steps. I don't give, I don't fault them, you know, in any way for that. Um, uh, you're going to see the full force of the FBI and federal law enforcement put on this. And I'm confident that we will, uh, apprehend this individual. Uh, Senator, I know you mentioned that. that we fear that it could get worse. I feel like we crossed at Rubicon already. Most politically motivated attacks. There's a disassociation between us and the act of violence, but the video and the person representing a movement has changed this, but also these things are typically messier, multiple shots,

a manifesto of some sort, a trace, a suspect, eyes were usually further along on this. This seems like a professional hit, so I feel like we cross that. this is the scary territory, I think, that you alluded to, sir. Yeah, well, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, folks in like my position and House members and governors, you know, need to, you know, take a step back and see how, you know, what should we be doing at this point? You know, I'm trying to get out there and, you know, speak about this and, you know, what I think is a responsible way. You know, we're not, you know, pointing fingers here. But also recognizing that we have a problem.

And, you know, the problem is politicization and, you know, just the kind of rhetoric, you know, that people use today. And I think it's, I think it's gotten worse over time. And I've, you know, seen this from both Democrats and Republicans. And, you know, we've got to figure out a way through this. And but we also can't ignore it. You know, on this individual event, you know, you I think the FBI is going to figure this out. And none of these are exactly the same. And they've got a hard job ahead of them. But I have confidence in the FBI and local law enforcement there that they will handle this appropriately.

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result of yesterday's murder not good i don't think people should feel good about that i you know i think in our country's history you know every president has looked at uh when things like this happen they look at it as an opportunity to unite us to bring us together not divide us You know, I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk on most things, but I also recognize, you know, that he is a human being. He has a family. He has every right to be there on a college campus expressing his views. You know, I defended the Constitution flying in combat in the first Gulf War. I would do it again to protect his right and people like him. But I, you know, I didn't agree with him. But what I saw yesterday from the president, I hope I see something else today. This is the anniversary of 9-11. This is also an opportunity to try to find some common ground among all Americans and try to find a way to kind of push us together in our humanity,

but to turn down the temperature. I didn't see that yesterday from him. I do understand that the president knew Charlie Kirk personally and was very fond of him. So I'll give him a little bit of a pass for yesterday. But what I would like to see is, you know, him really, you know, working towards uniting us as a country. What kind of conversations have you had in the last 24 hours with your fellow senators and colleagues on both sides of the aisle?

Well, you remember this happened late in the afternoon. And, you know, I have, you know, communicated with both, you know, my Democratic and Republican colleagues about, you know, just how horrible. this is about how this you know this this guy had a family and he was not much older than my eldest daughter i have a 30-year-old daughter have a four-year-old granddaughter i mean his kids were three and one just i mean forget about the politics for a second i mean this was a person who you know people loved him you know and and i've got republican colleagues that know this that knew charlie kirk personally and i don't agree with charlie kirk's views but i respect my colleagues and i'm friends with

them and this was a friend friend of theirs and i get that and this is a very challenging time for them you know i've been through this before you know with my wife gabby being shot in the head and in the hospital for six months and then a recovery and being in the middle of this shitstorm that you find yourself in that his family has now found itself in through no fault of their own. And, you know, I've got probably dozens of Republican colleagues who are friends of mine that were friends with Charlie Kerr. And they're mourning this loss. And I feel for them. You believe in this country? You believe in this country's ideals. I imagine that you're a hopeful person. Have you felt as hopeless as you have over the last couple of years

the threats to our country from every side? Hey, I am. never a hopeless person. Like I am an optimist, right? I look at the, you know, the strengths of our country are much more powerful than our shortcomings. And I think the future of our country is great. We are the most generous, innovative country in the world. And I think we have a bright future. I think we do go through historically. We've seen other times in our country's history where we've had, you know, very difficult and challenging times. And I do think we're going to get through this. I think we've got to all recognize that it's not going to be easy and we've got to work at it. But, you know, for in my job, you know, I sit on the armed services and the Intelligence

Committee. I, you know, I see the threats out there to us as a nation, not just internal, right? external threats all the time, every week, the challenges, you know, that we, you know, face from our adversaries. And I worry about it a lot, but I don't get to the point where it ever seems hopeless to me. Let me ask it a different way then. The amount of despair that you feel at the moment, the threat to democracy, our country, and its ideals, you have felt this way, the way that you have over the last five or six years. You've had things happen to you. You've seen everything that's happening. Is this time more perilous to you?

Does it feel more perilous than previous times? I think this feels, you know, pretty awful. You know, it's a horrible thing that happened. And, you know, I see how some people could feel, you know, despair. I don't feel despair, you know, over, over this. I, you know, I'm certainly, you know, sad about it, what happened to him and his family in our political system. and this is, you know, this hurts and it's damaging. Damaging to us as a country.

I also think we can find our way out of it. You mentioned that we shouldn't be finger pointing and we should be taking a step back, but your Republican colleagues have already pointed the finger at Democrats. Don't you find that kind of rhetoric irresponsible? Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I think they're hurting, you know, right now. And in some cases, you know, this is a friend of theirs that lost his life. so I get that part of it. You know, people have been attacked politically, you know, on both sides.

Melissa Hortman, state legislature, legislator from Minnesota. It was a Democrat. My wife was a Democrat. You know, governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, Democrat. He tried to burn them up in his house and his family. Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, nearly kidnapped. The president of the United States. States, you know, Republican president, tried to kill him twice. You know, we see this, you know,

this isn't unique to, you know, one party or the other. I mean, we see this across the political spectrum. There are bad people out there, you know, that just want to, you know, wreak havoc and murder people. So I understand when things like this happen and people are very upset, they're going to say things. I get that. you know, give, give this a couple days, and I think people will, you know, calm down and we can really start thinking about some solutions. Senator, I thank you for your time. This is obviously somber subject matter. I don't know how to transition from this into the other things that we do, so I'm hoping you can help me. Do you have a favorite football allegiance of some sort? Do you have a strong football opinion of some sort? Something you can give me to somehow try and transition out of what it is that we're president. doing. Maybe break? Well, I could break.

Or I could just include him in the fun of sports because everyone's a football fan. Maybe a little wrap-up? You're absolutely right. I am a football fan. I'll be watching, I've got to travel tonight, but I'll be watching the commanders. Big game. Playing the

Packers tonight. Prediction? Commanders, absolutely. Wow. I know the Plus three must have heard against his friends. I know that I know the Packers, you know, have quite the team, but, you know, I'm going with the commanders. Cardinals, obviously, my allegiance, I think they, either they've had a good start to the season. I'm optimistic.

I also have to say, you know, just watching the, you know, Minnesota Bears game, not a big fan of Minnesota. I was really impressed with his quarterback, especially in that last quarter. That's good. That guy. I think that guy really has a future. Thank you, Senator. doesn't believe in Kyler Murray. Thanks, Senator, are you tired of Kyleor? I'm tired of him.

No, you can't be tired. I am not tired of him. What has he ever done? Come on. You guys are still looking for a playoff win. Come on. We're going to get it. It's going to be this year. Okay.

I mean, just, Kyler Murray is a very talented, and he is hardworking, talented and hardworking quarterback. And I think we're going to win a lot of games. He's good. Get out of here. Not you, Senator. I'm talking to Tony.

Says Senator. So you are kicking. him out. Yes. Well, he's got other things to do. He's got other important things to do. Thank you, sir. All right.

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Never been hotter. I needed a sec way. This tops Gainesville week one last year. This is crazy. Yes, that's always a good place to be, hot under the armpits. Tony's top five is right around the corner here and we have other guests coming up later in the show and I'm sure we will be talking more about the Pablo Tori

finds out a.m. drop but can you please get me? Because I think I want to do this until the World Cup, Chris Cody. Every day I want to play a Ray Hudson sound every single day to celebrate the most iconic of South Florida the sports broadcasters. So let's celebrate Ray Hudson by just having his voice. You love giving tasks. Well, I like, yes, I like producers to produce.

No, no. This one's the seeds of resentment. It's more than 98 who are going for it. Day 17 of the Ray Hudson tribute to World Cup 2026 came and won. Let's go. It made Chris Sims' career start on this show because he was able to do it every day. Take credit for Lefcoe. That was a good bit.

Uh, let's, uh, let's, uh, let's, come on, magisterial me. Dan's favorite colors was a good bit. Yeah, that one. Don't forget rig Springfield. Maybe your second one, just not your first. Play, do you have, is he still holding? Do we still have? You changed studios and he finally dropped off.

He looks great, though. Play the Ray Hudson sound, please. This one drops in. Oh, are you kidding me? Astonishing! This is not just a dream. It's a wet dream of orgasmic plebe. portions and this one deludes everybody it seduces everybody in real madrid's fan club that's for sure

the wonder strike from christiano this has got more curves to it than jessica rabbit on steroids take it easy man just one every day until the world cup got it it's got more what than jessica rabbit 2026 um i think steroids curves curves curves i think that's what he said right i I think. She was very curvy. And he can do that because it's a cartoon. It seduces everybody in Real Madrid's fan club, that's for sure. The wonder strike from Cristiano.

This has got more curves to it than Jessica Roberts on steroids. So only 185 more shows to the World Cup. I'm excluding weekends and holidays, folks. 185 more Ray Hudson clips. I bet we can for 50 years of broadcasting. I bet you we can find it. I bet 40 years of broadcasting. Chris better find it.

I mean, there's one goal every five games, so I don't know. But they're playing all over the world, right? And there are more than five games. You're right. A career that spans across the decades, Dan. That's correct. So we'll do that every day until the World Cup to get you ready for the World Cup. And we've got commanders and backers tonight.

And it is a good game. Oh, dude. This is a possible NFC playoff preview? Yes, sir. NFC championship game, perhaps? Yes, sir. So Tony's got a top five of football observations to get to. Let's do it.

Do we have the music? Do we have everything ready that is required so that Tony can fly? All right, everybody, Tony's top five, week one. The Great Return. Feels good to hear that music in its proper context. We're going to start, no all I, Dan, just straight five in week one. There was a lot of observations, but I had to put them all down into five. As the weeks go on, I'll have more and more as is custom.

Don't threaten us. Number five, Gino can still sling the pill. Did you see him on the first couple that drives against New England? Patriots. Absolute lasers across the field, boys. Mina was saying, Mina, who I trust on this sort of stuff, Mina was saying before that game, that Raiders' offense is going to be better than people think. Fun offense, Chip Kelly at the helm, Ascenti, you got pieces, Brock Bowers.

Gino's slinging the pill Rock Fowers playing the Sorry Mike, is he playing this weekend? Yeah, he's going to be all right Half the game's at a dome Do yourself a favor Check out Gino Smith's dome stats Incredible probably

Oh dude, he's like two times a quarterback He's incredible The Raiders are going to be in this conversation Mark my words Wait a minute Playoff conversation Wait a minute They might be for real

What? What? Are the Raiders for real? No, nothing might be for real We've been asking that one for 20 years. We've asked Rick Springfield that. No. Are they for real? Are you willing to say, are you

willing to say, September 11th, Wednesday, 2025? After 25 years, we have an answer to the question and the answer is yes. Are the Raiders for real? I need to see the Monday nighter. I mean, yeah. A Monday nighter that I think they win. But then they have the

commies the week after that, followed by the Bears, which we don't know about the Bears yet. Colts Colts is pretty good. At Colts. At Colts, undefeated at home, the Colts right now. Right now they're 1-0. No, no, no. I mean, like, as we project.

Well, we have to see Monday night. Monday night. I think that's a win. Okay. Wait, you think what's a win? No, no, that makes them 2-0. That's 2-0 if they win. But then they have the commanders.

Oh, 2-1. All right, Bears. 3-1? Versus, they're hosting the Bears. That's a dome. Don't field advantage. What snacks after that? After that, you go to Indy where again the Colts are a juggernaut,

undefeated. Then they have Cam Ward, who's probably going to be settling in. Cameron, Ward, I should say. He's going to be settling in. Then at the Chiefs. The Chiefs are still any guess. We don't know, though. Any guess. And you have been predicting that Tyreek Hill will be there at that point in time. So it could be a new look chief. I think you're undermining Tony's star segment. No, no, no, no. He likes this. No, no, no. I'm in on this. Yeah. We still have another 12 games. I think he's doing the schedule. Then there's the buy to reset. Okay. You reset. at the buy. Ashton Densey gets hot after the buy. The jags come into town. Tough game. Tuss? Come on. Tough game. I don't think it's tough game. Tough game. That suck. At Broncos. Tough game. That one. And it's a Thursday nighter. Good Thursday night games. I can't believe how good these Thursday night games are. It's crazy. Crazy. It's crazy. Number four. Number four, funny enough. Are the Chargers for real?

We're going to have a, are you for real off? the AFC West. I mean, the Chargers are, what, 1 and 0 right now? I mean, spank the Chiefs. Post the Raiders. Then the Broncos come to town. Tough games in the AFC West, man. I mean, that's one of those that you just don't know. Then they fly across the country

to the Giants. Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard show. More for real. Raiders are Chargers. And Justin Herbert looked amazing in Brazil. I believe the Chargers are for real, but I think everyone thinks that, right? Well, Week 5, they host the Command.

Anders. That's a test. And then the dolphins who at that point in the season. Most people listening to this think the Chargers are good, yes? What if I told you according to Draft Kings, Chargers, even with the Chiefs, to win the AFC West. I'm telling you.

What can I get the Raiders at? Plus 190 for the Chargers. Raiders, their four, plus 1,000. That's a good bet. I'll take a flyer. Throw a little something on that. You're saying they're for real if you're taking a flyer. I think they went on Monday night. Well, then they're for real. There they are.

Then, wait a minute. You said Monday night we're going to test. Yeah, but we got to wait until they do it. No, but you said they think they went there. That means right now that means right now. Right, but they're for real. They're just proved to me that they're more for real.

I have not heard that they're for real. I like the quarterback. You're saying they're for real. He's good an adult. You're saying they're for real. They have weapons. Do you have the weapons? I found out why they left at 2.17 a.m.

Why was it? Dude, okay. So witchcraft. Number three. There's a witch. A witch? Yes, which. That's it.

No more spoilers. No, no more spoilers. Yeah, it's streaming now. You can watch it at home if you'd like. You got those streaming services? Which one? Figure it out. I'll talk to you after.

Number three, J.J. McCarthy showed me some major cahones on Monday night. You throw the pick six. You come back. You do what he did on the road as a rookie. Because he didn't play last year. He's a rookie to me. He should win rookie the year if he plays well, by the way. He's a rookie.

He's a rookie. Didn't take a snout. He's a rookie to me. Got paid. He goes in and does what he did in the fourth quarter. Major Cajon is, Dan. Put it on the poll, please, J.J.Macru. Did the senator know J.J. McCarthy's name?

He didn't. And that's why I can't take his... Kyla Murray take seriously. Whoa. That was so weird. And you reminded me of that in my armpits got hot again. Are you married... Have we learned from the Josh Allen thing, Dan?

I feel like you were trying this Tuesday morning. You were like, well, let me just stop short of actually heaping praise on the young man. He showed us something. I'm willing to admit that I was wrong about J.J. McCarthy because I'm brave and I like admitting I'm wrong. You need to be prepared to do the same. I just am hesitant to think that J.J. McCarthy will be able to put up better stats this year than Sam Darnel did with that team next year.

I don't ever expect that from a quarterback who's just starting his career. And I didn't expect it from J.J. McCarthy through the first three quarters of that game when it didn't look like he was going to do anything. But then he showed you what he had. And you expected it from Sam. Darnold? No, I did not expect it from Sam Darnold. All I'm saying is that it's not reasonable to assume that a quarterback this early in his career will put up better numbers than Sam Darnold did.

You guys are getting tricked by the fact that it's Sam Darnold, and you're like, why can't he be better than Sam Darnold? I'm saying the numbers put up by Sam Darnold last year were numbers that did make me feel like that wasn't Sam Darno. Which is why they could be J.J. McCarthy. He put up Tito Smith. Times says Kevin O'Connell have to show you who he is. More. So the answer is yes. You're going to be indignant.

stubborn. The rest of your life. Sunday night he's got a shot against the Falcons and then a big one against the Bengals. Wow. Is this a road game? No, it's a home game. Oh, wow. That's a good sweet spot. What do they have after that? Then the Steelers come to town. Ooh, and then the Browns. Wow, they have a nice little stretch here. They have Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, Browns, Eagles, all at home before they hit the road and a buy in the middle of that before they hit the road, October 23rd against 203rd. The Chargers. Wow. J.J. McCarthy Herbert.

Full circle. Tell you what, if we're going to keep track of Sam Darnold, J.J. McCarthy, last year after one week, Sam Darnold, 18 for, nope, excuse me, I was looking at January. I did that backwards. That's fine. Just gives that one. 194.

208 yards, two touchdowns, interception. But what happened? What do you mean? What happened in that game? They won the game. They won the game. Oh, gets who? Giants.

What was a follow-up for? He thought he was going to prove a point. Asked a useless question. It came with a useless answer, and then he was stumped. I remember them beating the 49ers in a big game, but I think that was week two. That was week two. That was right there, Dano.

But the point is, Jay Jim McAard these numbers, bigger after one week. That's what I'm saying. And Dan, did he showed you what he had? Did you see his call on us? Yes or no. What was that 18 for 40 you were going to give us? That was the playoff game. That was a bad job on me.

18 for 40, something's bad. Look at it upside out. At least someone in that studio can admit when they're wrong. I like it. Ray Hudson, call us. today tomorrow. Number two. Packers seem to be a unit.

That's what I like about you. You say things that no one else is saying. They seem to be a unit. As a number two though, when you have all week to prepare something as a thought and your number two seems to be a unit. Here's the thing. Everybody's talking about how they are a unit, right? I'm saying that they seem

to be a unit. Oh, so this is like actually not so fast, my friend? Not so fast, my friend. I'm hesitant to call them a unit. After tonight, maybe? Maybe. I mean, tonight's the night, the commies. Tonight, tonight is tonight. Who's who so early?

But it is, it feels like a who's who's who between Jordan Loving. I don't know about a who's who, but it could be a measuring stick. How about one of these teams is a contender? Uh-huh. And the other one's a pretender. Wow. And we find out tonight which is which will we separate that. Contender pretender early the week.

It is a little early. You're making in week two. You're sniffing a who's who game. No. No. No. No. We sussed it out deep up.

Measuring stick. You're sniffing around. I heard who's who. No, no, no. Contenders and pretenders. Yeah. You started. No, that's where you ended up.

You started by sniffing who's who. I can't work things out with my fellas. It's not a who I'm saying. You've got to be respectful of the cathedral of who's who's game. That's not. We were. We were. We were.

We were. We said it was not. No, no, we have to ask the question. You have to ask the question. You're judging spitballs and that's not what you do. You don't even want us to ask the question. Yeah. If you're going to sniff.

around who's who because you volunteered it. I wasn't ready for who's who. That's a December that's a December conversation. Pretender. Agreed it's a little bit later. This is the difference between forced him to fly across the country and he was already across the country. It's a classic miss.

Hey, pretender, you say over there. Team Palmer. You guys don't mix it up. I'm going to separate you guys. The point is, they seem to be they seem to be a unit, but I want to see how that offense gets together because their offense even though they have a good quarterback, a lot of B pieces, right?

They don't really have an A piece on offense outside of quarterback. They seem to be a unit. I feel like you've changed your opinion of this during the segment. No, no, no, no, no. We came workshop things. I'm giving you the take. Colts Broncos, could that be a contender-pretender game? What's after that?

What's after that for the Broncos? That's this week, Colt's Broncos. Let's see. Give me a moment. Yeah, pull them up. Tony, give us the rest while. Number one. Did you hear that, Dan?

At Chargers. Oh, my God. I mean, the charges are in the mix. You slapped the table like Brian Kelly. I heard it. You heard that, right? You know what that sound was? That was your hand?

That was the... That was the Super Bowl window closing for the Lions in 49ers. Oh. What? It's over. It's over. The 49ers have the easiest schedule in the league. I know, Dan.

And I wrote something on my substack saying about how Brock Purdy could be the... Hold on. What? Hold on, dude. What? Can we... And, like, we want to talk these things out, right? Agreed.

Okay. The Niners do this thing where they get hurt in the beginning. But everybody's hurt. And then they get healthy at the right time of the year. Sure. You've got to forecast that. Here's the thing, the soft tissue injury with George Kittlescare from it, because the hamstring is like off the bone.

What about the Jennings' shoulder? This is a lot. Jenny's said he's good, though. And Brock Purdy? Rob Purdy, turf toe and shoulder. But he's going to be out the next four weeks. I don't want to put him on an aisle. So there's a lot of things happening.

But CMC playing well. Ricky Pearsall, by the way, back. There's something there. Mike Ryan mentioned that I like giving tasks and assignment. So I want to get you guys to do some math for me here on something because we're your math friends now uh you can be my math friend you can apply for the position here by helping me do some math uh because i was uh talking about the ravens yesterday and i was saying turn this music down please i i was talking because it's it's over that's his that's his

we're still talking yeah he still got a lion's he closed wind of the lions though he didn't like that window that was like an opening shut yeah he didn't even say anything about the lions he knows it i have the lion's schedule here if you want it i don't see this there's a big issue A tough road a hoe for the Lions this season. Let's save that for later when we're off air and no longer doing a show and you can say everything you want about the schedule of the Lions. There's Ravens, Browns, Bengals, Chiefs. I mean, they got the Bears this week and you've got to anticipate. They know how to stop Ben Johnson.

They saw it every day in practice. Corny to Draft Kings, the Lions now are third shortest odds in the division to win. Third plus 45. Their schedules behind the Vikings this season. The point that I was making about the Ravens yesterday, then I want to, cross over to today because there are only two good teams in the league that suffer from this particular affliction. The San Francisco 49ers and Shanahan is viewed as somebody who blows leads late. But the number that I wanted to give you on Harbaugh that I didn't give you

yesterday when I said that they've blown nine games with a 90% plus win probability is that they have blown 17 second half double digit leads under Harbaugh. And if I do the math on this, math, friends, if I just made all of those wins, would they suddenly have a better winning percentage over that stretch than the best teams in the league? Would they have a better winning percentage than Kansas City? Would they have a better winning percentage than the Patriots at their very best if I gave Harbaugh all 17 of those victories that he has a double-digit lead in? Yes. You think they'd be the best team in the sport very obviously? If I just made all of their double-digit leads wins, none of the collapses losses.

Yeah, I feel like we could do that because, okay, are we giving the other good teams at Blue Games? Are we going to give them their games too? We could do that, but they, like, the Chiefs certainly haven't blown the amount of games that you're describing to me right now that the Ravens have. So the answer, yes. Carry the four. It was like 8.75 we got. We were looking at the lion's schedule.

Wow, what a hard. It's hard. It's hard. I don't think Tony was tough enough on them. They may miss the playoffs this year, the Lions. Windows closed. Do you tear it down, or do you say, like, you know, we went through a lot of transition? You gave off $260 million.

Better question. Fire Dan Campbell? No. No. Keep Dan Campbell. I mean. No. So many people want to fire off.

If you're Dan Campbell, though, you listen to offers? Because you look at what's going on. He said, I lost my coordinators. I don't know about the situation. Maybe I leave before they figure out I'm the problem. Get out why you can. Uh-huh. potentially. I mean, remember, he had that Texas A&M flirtation not too long ago. He could have come in for a king's ransom, but he decided not to. Wanted to stay put there in Detroit.

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