The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Top 5 Athlete Weed Names In Sports History (feat. Pablo Torre)

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

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in the world but before we get to Pablo Zaslow what is the issue I feel like Mike Ryan and Chris Cody peers of yours guys you grew up with you guys were all doing the same jobs at the same time I feel like they feel judged by you and there's some judgment in general going on around here about WrestleMania nerds. Well, okay, they feel that I'm judging them. What? What's their thought? I don't know what's happening here around the WrestleMania.

I think you're a passionate WrestleMania person. Are you not? Oh, yes. Love pro wrestling. Yes. I had a great weekend. It was WrestleMania weekend in the Zaslow Mansion. We all got together, all the Zaslow men, and we watched a lot of pro wrestling. Yes, I had a great weekend. It was WrestleMania weekend in the Zaslow mansion. We all got together, all the Zaslow men, and we watched a lot of pro wrestling.

What, how am I judging you? The, forgive me, I misunderstood the nature of the argument. Was not, was there not somebody here who- Me, I'm judging them, they're nerds. Okay, I, I, I- Seriously. Forgive me. It's not real, I mean. Really, that's what we're doing in the year 2025. That's what we're doing, it's not, like do you think you just educated someone by telling us it's- No, listen to me. It's not real. I mean. Really? That's what we're doing in the year 2025.

That's what we're doing. It's not... Like, do you think you just educated someone by telling us it's... Oh, whoa, it's not real? Listen to me. If it's down the street from your house and you like wrestling, go to a wrestling event. You don't fly to Vegas for WrestleMania. That's not what you do.

No, I mean, I didn't, but why? It's fake. That's why. Yes. Okay. Everybody knows it's fake. Wrestling fans feel like they are experiencing something differently than we're experiencing it. No, we're not. Can you answer me something? What is fake?

What's the definition? What's fake? What's fake? Them, wrestling. No, but okay, it's a show. It's a show that you don't travel to Vegas for. All right, but you go to Denny's company, that's a show. Yeah, but that's the only place they play.

It's the only place they can go Okay, the only place I can go Wrestling they have wrestling events all over the country if they have one down the street go to it But this is the Super Bowl wrestling. Yeah That's the response. Yeah What WrestleMania is this? 41 41 and it's the Super Bowl of wrestling. Yeah. Okay. When you watch the Super Bowl, you feel like you're watching a real thing. Real people collide, real physicality, real results, right? Right. With wrestling, it's rigged. Yeah, I understand. It's a show though.

I get to watch my show. It's a bad show. It's a bad show. They're like the greatest athletes in the world. It's a, there's no, there's no second takes, third takes, they do everything in one take. They're doing it all right in front of you. They're acting and performing, and performing incredible athletic feats right in front of you, live, no do-overs. Wrestling is basically Broadway for dudes

who won't admit that they like theater, right? Because I mean, we're talking, it's a stage show with a bunch of acting and physical performances and storylines that you know how they're probably gonna end up, but if you've never seen that stage production, then you don't know how it's gonna go. So it's seeing a new Broadway show, right?

Here's my big problem, all right? Why is it, and this is you now, Stu Gotts, you're the guy. Why is it you feel the need to tell other grown-ups, like myself, now I wasn't there but Mike Ryan was there, other grown-ups, why are you critical of other grown-ups enjoying something? That's what I do. But you're not the only one, like you're that representation here right now in front of me, but you're not the only one.

Oh, you watch wrestling, you go to wrestling, you're an adult, why can't you turn on pro, you turn on WrestleMania this weekend. There were 60,000 people in attendance each night having a great, great time. What's wrong with people having a great time? 60,000 dorks. I mean, seriously. It is odd that there's like a post-game press conference for a match that was predetermined. My son was asking me last night, we were watching the post press conferences, and he's like, are these real media people, real reporters? There you go. I said, yeah.

I go, I can do that if I want. He goes, but they tell you what to ask, right? I go, no, ask whatever you want. Smart kid. Post-game presser for Jack Kelly and Newsies. Pablo, you had trouble taking your glasses off there. I'm familiar with that particular fight through the headphones.

What are your thoughts here as we bring you in as a skirmish breaks out between Zadslow and Stugatz about whether or not wrestling is fake? Just realized that I've been shown this entire time struggling to both keep my glasses on and off and keep pace with whatever we're arguing about. Mike Schur's there, or was there. Mike Schur also went. I think Mike Ryan and Mike Schur both went to Vegas for this thing.

The coalition of wrestling fans always surprises me as someone who wasn't one of them. I didn't know there were post-game pressers. I didn't know that was a thing. That's a thing. I've never seen a wrestler behind a microphone. Chris Cody thought the coalition there was unnecessary. I'm just telling you, Pablo. The coalition of wrestling fans. Here's what's happened. You've floated.

That's a sixth grade word. You're sixth grade. Pablo, you have floated off into left field MSNBC land. You have no connection anymore coalition of wrestling fans put it on the pole at LeBattard show is coalition a sixth grade word at LeBattard show Guys I think it is I think you might be right here I think you might get a dead on and and we're the idiots here I do like Chris though saying your sixth grade, which is a fifth grade reference

Can we get please the sound and video of Mina Kimes on? Celebrity Jeopardy because Pablo's most recent episode of Pablo Torre finds out is deep dive into I don't believe there is another is deep dive into, I don't believe there is another podcast anywhere in the space dominating game show talk the way that Pablo Torre is. Katie Nolan, Mina Kimes, and Pablo have all had like these amazing game show moments, all funny for different reasons. In defense of Pablo, coalition is a sixth grade word.

That's just Chris Cody, we're trying to dumb it down for our executive producer. I don't believe that. And there you go. And that's exactly. How do you know what words are sixth grade by the way? That's how arguments go nowadays. You go to sixthgrade.com, you see all the words.

Presented with alternate information. The person who was just told that it's a sixth grade word says, I don't believe that. End of discussion, case closed. Chris Cody wins the argument, America loses. Sixth grade.com though, we should squat on that URL. It's a business here. This, let's just play for Pablo here.

Mina Kimes, I just, I don't recognize her and I felt like this was extraordinary confidence to see from someone, Pablo, who I remember didn't know how to put on a headset on television, her failing on a game show and leaning into it this way is crazy to me. And you don't have to kick yourself, I think, because the way it worked out with Dave being

the only one who knew final. Listen, yeah, I would have been more mad if I had done the math wrong and once that was, I was like, all right, you know, because that would have just been embarrassing. Well, you made small wagers on who you ended up knowing on Nero and then Just give money, don't make money.

I just can't believe that. The greatest. I still can't believe it. Which is better, the lean or the eyes at the very end? The lean. The most confident Mina was in her entire Celebrity Jeopardy semi-final was when she gave that post-game press conference answer to Ken Jennings

About how? Unconfident she was in her strategy for daily doubles. I have not seen how Pablo cut this up, but I assure you I'm urging everyone in our audience to go see Pablo Torre finds out or just listen to it if you don't want to see it because I out or just listen to it if you don't want to see it because I don't believe we've ever been able to laugh at Mina like that and the circumstances of her doing math wrong or feeling like she kicked a field goal and was a chicken in a big situation. Like you couldn't have written it in fiction better to go funnier if you and I were writing it.

No, beyond the fact that Dan ended up being able to have this weapon to just beat Mina over the head with in the pro-skate presser that we staged for her, was the fact that Mina, of course, could not do the thing. And this is her own self-awareness in the episode that Dan's referencing. She realizes that after a career spent telling people, telling NFL coaches to go for it on fourth down, she punted. She just repeatedly punted throughout the game and didn't realize it until this taping we did in which she had to reckon with how unbelievably cosmically cursed it is to be her on NFL live and her in this episode of

Celebrity Jeopardy. It is remarkable and you cannot script it. It's true. Let's talk about the NBA from the weekend. Which of the things did you find most interesting if you had to choose only one? The Nuggets. The Nuggets being the Clippers. I think that the whole experiment with we're gonna fire our head coach, fire our GM, leave it in the hands of Nikola Jokic whose on-off numbers are incredible, has made me more intrigued by this team than any one other team in this postseason, because all I wanna do is get, you put a little box of me

in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen, I just want a little box with Mike Malone in it during these games. Like, what's it like to be him? That's good television. What's it like to be him? I'd watch this. Let me ask you about the end of that game. I would have boxed a Niko watching Laker games. Okay this is good stuff. Yes basketball should evolve into that as a narrative based sport that loves the stories and the drama. You're absolutely right that's the next evolution. But walk me through the end of regulation Nuggets Clippers. If you guys did not see this, the way they guarded Westbrook was crazy. On average, 9.6 feet away from him. Go ahead, you're the worst three-point shooter in the history of the league.

You're aging poorly. Shoot all the threes you want. We're going to respect you less than Tony Allen, than anybody. Ten feet off him. End of the game situation, Stukats, what are the Nuggets going to do? Well obviously it's going to be Jokic and Murray. Jokic and Murray, oh no, Westbrook has the ball. Oh no, oh my God, throw it off someone's foot. Out of bounds. Nuggets win anyway. Headlines, Westbrook attack mode wins for the Nuggets. And I'm like, not,

not, not, not, not, not, not, not. Almost lost it for the Nuggets. Not one game maybe because you got the best player anyone's ever seen on earth, but you Not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not,

not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, we were told, was because he played Russell Westbrook in the fourth quarter too much. Like, Mike Malone was watching the reason he got fired result in a headline that praised the team that he got fired from coaching for doing the thing they did, only to win a playoff game in overtime. It's incredible. Like, the Russell Westbrook thing. I mean, man, two things are true, and this is always true about Russell Westbrook. He is the guy who will dribble the ball off of his foot or whatever into Zubat's his arms at the end of regulation. And I'll also be the guy that will make you think, oh, my God, this is Russell Westbrook aggression mode. And yes, he he has so much more left in the tank than you think.

But also, what a nightmare. What a nightmare to just watch someone else get praise for the thing you got fired for doing. It is remarkable. So yes, we all saw that, that apparently it was a big point of contention that Malone would play Westbrook too much. He would play him in the fourth quarter. But don't we now have to question the validity to that if in the first playoff game of the season, the interim coach plays him the whole fourth quarter. 34 minutes. Like, wouldn't you be doing the opposite? Because you know, you kind of want to get the job next year

and not do the thing that apparently got Mike Malone fired, right? I mean, it's a good question. If the GM had not also gotten fired. Like, I don't even know what's happening over there. I don't know who's in charge. I genuinely have no idea. I don't know who they're supposed to please.

I think we're supposed to realize that Russell Westbrook in the fourth quarter bad until it was good in this playoff game, I guess, cause they won. And also in terms of who's running the team, Zaz, yeah. I don't know. We're also running that experiment. Who's your boss? I don't really know.

I guess Jokic is or Jokic's brother is at this point. Sure. Or his agent is, which we've also heard. It's very, very confusing. Juju, put it on the poll, please, at Lebatard Show. Did you have a friend today who was too eager to tell you the pope had died at Lebatard Show? And also, I don't think that we should move too far past the fact ever when talking about Jokic that his brothers are much bigger than he is I just want to put that out there I don't they're going to make a return at some point during this postseason I assure you please do not take your eye off the ball James Harden is saying yes I'd prefer Shea Gilgis Alexander for MVP but

we all know of course the best player in the world is that guy over there that guy we're all on board with yes Of course He's the number one because the Netflix showed the the top five where they go around starting five or whatever My wife was introduced to yoga. She's like oh, so he doesn't he doesn't care about basketball, but he's the best player I'm like yes And then she started learning started watching the games this season and then I showed her a picture of the brother and I was like That guy's his brother and she's like no there's there's no way that's that's enhanced right? He's he's made bigger on purpose on he looks like kingpin

I'm like no, he's like he's like three times bigger than yokich is and yokich is seven feet tall and 290 pounds Yeah He looks a bit like a Greco Roman wrestler who also was in the world's strongest man Competition throwing kegs of the mountain over a wall Yes His brother yokich's brother makes yokich look like yow made shack look like you need just that level It just doesn't make sense I'm telling you it visually does not make sense

If you're someone who does not know and has no sense of proportion And and I didn't tell you one of these people is the best basketball player in the world right now He's the small one people would say well, he's six foot and quick right or he's fe now. He's the small one. People would say, well, he's six foot and quick, right? Or he's five, he could just five, he's five 10, he's a point guard, right? No. Have you guys seen that photo of giant, I almost said, tiny Jeff Passon from that set? He was on a baseball, he was on set

doing some ESPN baseball broadcast and he looks tiny. You guys know what I'm talking about? Am I alone in tiny Jeff Haslund? We have our own version of Amin doing one of those and we have Billy and Stugat sitting with Derrick Henry as well. Oh, right, right, right. Where we play with the proportions of people.

I wanted to ask you about something that happened during the Celtics game yesterday, where Tatum goes down Missoula says to the trainer don't go out there and and Tatum is what writhing around and Missoula is just like get up What is that it's playoff time No, but it's playoff time, but I also got Tony coming in here tonight saying hey is Derek White better than Jalen Brown Is he Joe Miss Mazzula is, I don't want to diagnose anybody from afar, but he has something in his brain,

circuitry wise that is just very different. And the only thing I compare it to is that there is a group of guys in sports, we did an episode about this actually, who all have tattoos of the Joker on their body, not Jokic, obviously, but like the Joker from the Dark Knight And Joe Missoula is one of these guys who idolizes That sort of a character which is to say there are people who see being a sociopath as being virtuous and like good

Strategy and that is an incredible photo of Billy next to Gary. That has to be one of the funniest. Jesus Christ, that's like a Polly Pocket. It is, it is. It's a running back. I thought that's what you were thinking of. That, Derek Henry, his trumps, size and weight. Oh my God. This photo has to be doctored. Like that is so ridiculous. Billy did that on purpose. Oh My god to be doctored like

Billy did that on purpose the reason he put his chair down that low So look do you guys understand that every single person who meets me thinks I'm five nine? Because my chair was down to sit next to my father So like Billy just moved his chair down Well date now Dan is right Billy came up with the idea to move both our chairs down and keep Derrick Henrys at the same height. History is not gonna know that context, and that was a terrible decision by Billy Gill. He is, Derrick Henry, he was listed last week by us

at 6'3", 245 pounds, I believe. But Pablo, when it comes to what it is that you were watching, you were talking about missoula causes this is a really unusual coach to that's look can we just stop for a second and find it really weird a young guy we're making fun of that was about you know a second or two from being fired as a laughing stock from the celtics because he managed to lose to the heat

eight seed now is a champion and not just a champion, but he's a champion who behaves in like really unusual ways, unlike, and really young, and I think empirically strange. Like what is it? Incredibly, incredibly strange. I think the whole Celtic thing is strange. The reaction to them winning,

people not taking them seriously, people not talking about Jason Tatum. But in that town when you're young brilliant wizard you get to be Theo Epstein, you get to be brilliant for all time. Are we saying that this is brilliant for all time or are we saying this is circuitry that we don't understand and well he's winning so therefore he's our back? he's our back? I'm saying that he forced Jason Tatum to watch the dark night with him and to focus on Heath Ledger's The Joker for inspiration. I just think there's a type of guy,

and Missoula might even be just weirder than even this one data point, but there's a type of guy who isn't just like, wow, this guy's a really hardcore, like, you know, high energy, or not even high energy, just all consuming coach guy. He's the guy who thinks Heath Ledger's Joker is a hero. I don't know how often I can just keep repeating this,

but that's literally insane. You're idolizing an insane person, which would make me think that you are also an insane person just by the laws of, you know, logic. But if you win, we'll assign winner to you. It doesn't matter how strange you are. Phil Jackson was strange. He won a lot. Belichick, strange, won a lot.

Oh no, but what, no, no, wait a minute though. What we won't do though, if you give us totally strange and we almost fired you because we all remember that this was very close to not being allowed to go even one more season it wouldn't have been if the Celtics had indeed fired him no one would have been surprised no one and to go from that to oh they won the championship easily and he's super unusual and they're young and good enough that that's, you know, a team that can obviously knock off OKC because they've been there before and OKC has it.

And then you've got a two-time champion on your hands and we don't get to reverse engineer this. Belichick, we saw, become a genius. Like we saw it happen we watched it theo epstein sought watched it young strange person doesn't get to be eternal genius we saw the formative years we saw too much at the beginning no do i have it wrong i think what mizula as a coaching prospect what's the got to saying is fundamentally like directionally correct which is that at a

certain point you're going to be the guys all of these titles and being in the conference finals and the finals every single year, we're going to just not think too deeply about the fact that yes, you watch the town like four times a day or whatever it is, that you have these press conferences where you don't seem to exist on the same like emotional psychological wavelength as anybody else. It's ends justify the means, which I guess in that case is exactly the lesson of the joker.

Does that mean I'm right? I mean, fundamentally, directionally, I mean, directionally correct. The reason I want to say I'm right. Before I moved to Lakers, the reason- You're in the direction of right. I wouldn't say you're necessarily very- Fundamentally.

Fundamentally. Right. The coalition of people who are directionally. Yes. Pointed, you're pointed toward it, but before I get to the Lakers portion of this, when it comes to the Celtics, I do think it becomes hard to make some of the appraisals because the starting point is all of these people seem to be better than I thought they were. All of them. Like it's not, it's across the roster coaching so I would have to concede I'm wrong about everything I thought and if I'm wrong

about everything I thought where do I put the credit? I know the strange coach who's at the front of all of it and I saw it when it wasn't every guy is better than all the others. That it needed to get rid of marcus martin at a seven-foot three lego person to it and now bit of them is better than any of us thought they were and so the appraisal becomes you can begrudgingly say holy shit they beat the respect that i mean i was wrong but the thing about cutting this is it goes back to the Mike Malone in the little box thing though.

Like we're testing actively what it means to not have a coach during a playoff run effectively. And you're right, Dan, like there is no real good statistic, there's no good analytics for coaches, because they exist in the realm of motivation, because they exist in the realm of, hey, watch this movie scene, this is gonna inspire you, because they exist in the realm of like press conference theater scene this is going to inspire you because they exist in the realm of like press conference theater and so yes it's very easy to

ascribe everything we can't calculate to them except for when in the case of denver like they're basically saying ah we don't really need this and now you give it to westbrook which is how it is that the mba is both a league of math and the opposite at the same time. Mike Malone cam is such a good idea. What other cams like that could I give you for the playoffs that you guys would enjoy? Niko cam, that's number one. Niko's number one, yeah.

But Mike Malone cam is really good. Like, Taylor Jenkins is enjoying the holy hell out of yesterday, right? No one wants a Taylor Jenkins cam. Yeah, I can agree with that. But I'm saying just him like, him just celebrating them down by 50, you know? Well, do you think he sits there and watches the game at home?

Or does he just check his phone, checks the box score every? No, but even that's funny if he's just sort of walking around if he's at like a Bar Mitzvah, and he's just sort of checking his phone or... How about Riley during Warrior games? Oh man. That's a good camp too.

That might be second best. That's a good camp. That's a good camp. I just like the idea of Taylor Jenkins being out at a Bar Mitzvah or an event and just rolls up on someone into the third quarter and grizzies are down by 50. See you score the game. What can you do?

Do I have this wrong? I know I snuck it in there. Did you guys have any friends who are a little too eager to tell you today that the Pope had died overnight? A lot of them Jewish. I don't know what that's supposed to Tony got on me today No, Ethan comes in Jeremy Zazer like hey the Pope died. I'm like, okay Mike the Pope died. Hey look man. It's it's the news, you know when JD Vance kills the Pope You got to tell someone about it

Wait, didn't Peter King do this with Robin Williams? tell someone about it. Wait, didn't Peter King do this with Robin Williams? Guys, remember that story? Peter King wrote that column where he talked about how he told a restaurant host that Robin Williams had died. This is like the lead of his column

and took like very strange pleasure in telling him that Robin Williams had died in a particularly unfortunate way. Am I how am I the only one who remembers this? You're alone now on an island. You gonna have to swim us to safety that's the gassing photo all right let's have everyone jump on his back we'll help you

as much as we can but you're unprepared for what it is that you're presently doing I got a story we'll play with you but you're gonna have to find the details I got it get off you get off me all right before I drown all right here we go Milwaukee dash-d, asked restaurant host, colon, God, did you hear about Robin Williams? Question mark, post, no, me, died, he killed himself, end quote, thought he would cry. At SI underscore Peter King, August 12th, 2014.

Huh. What? Yep. Different time. I'm the only one who remembers Peter King. Okay, very good. Just gonna return to the bottom of the ocean now. See you guys later.

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Stugats. I think he got your ass. I think he got your ass. I got his ass. Chris won this one for sure. Not with that ass. It was a rally, Jeremy. It was great. This is the Don Lear show with these two guards

Let me grab the steering wheel here we were just talking about yesterday was a big holiday a lot of people were celebrating 420 and so now we're gonna celebrate 420 with our friends at Jimmy John's This this 420 segment with Pablo sponsored by Jimmy's. They're finally here and they're hot. Try the new toasted sandwiches at Jimmy John's. Order one today. This looks really good. I got a couple questions for Pablo. I know he's got a top five.

We'll start with, a lot of people do this in golf. You're ideal foursome for a golf. Give me your ideal rotation, Pablo. You and three other people. Your dream. My mouth is watering. Dream, dream. Living or dead? My goat dream water dream dream living or dead

My Joe that can be alive or dead. Oh, I mean Bill Walton number one Solid good one. Can I draft for Bill Walton? Nope, you get one Bill Walton you have a lot Mmm. I don't know if I want Luke. Hmm. It's being of these sandwiches are soches that I'm not sure. I got it Yeah, nice and warm. It is a good sandwich. And we can be snobs in Miami about our sandwiches. Yeah.

Who's the next one after Walton? Yeah, this is cruel. I'm gonna stay with UCLA. I'm gonna go Kareem. Kareem's a stoner, guys, he does. He's on the record. And finally? He's on the record.

Did you see, did it make you as sad at all seeing him show up to the tribute for Jackie Robinson? Giant wheelchair so difficult to move around people that size It's kind of stunning to see him still moving around at that Serging a bit on the Peter King vibes with that comment Dan We're trying to have a fun power ranking of guys wanna smoke weed with. You brought it to a real dark place. That's what he does. It's the sandwich, they're making me crazy.

The sandwich, I've gotta leave the room. It smells too good. This weekend it was the meat, like you can't keep, I cannot eat these things. Get you a JJ's out there. Yeah, I wanna. Who's next? So did you finish your list here?

Someone sent me a photo of Ricky Williams, noted friend of Metal Arch Media, at a pool in Austin, not to like dox Ricky Williams, but he was wearing the Apple Vision Pro and sitting at a table by himself. And Ricky Williams is my third. That's a strong four right there. What about me?

He's been there, done that. Several times. We have. Paul, what top five do you have for us? I have the top five athlete weed names in sports history. Give it to us. OLI, out lighter. Sugats is writing it down. Number five, LeGarret Blunt.

Strong if that's number five. Number four, John Danks. Oh wow. Really good. Danks, that is good. White Sox Lefty. Thank you, Pablo. Lefty?

Still a White Sox. Number three? I think he was socks lefty. Yeah, thank you bubble lefty Still remember three. Thank you as a righty Thank you was there. I mean there might have been another Danx actually I think thanks Look the Danx you're talking about is a righty. I believe a reliever right no the Danx. He's talking about is a lefty John Danx Yeah, I think enough hmm Jeremy tell me who I'm thinking Bobby Janx there it is Yeah. Who am I thinking of? Jeremy, tell me who I'm thinking of. Bobby Janx. There it is, Bobby Janx.

That's what it is. Also a White Sox, closer. Probably also enjoys weed though. That's who I was thinking of. Based on various characteristics. Thank you for telling me who I was thinking of. You're welcome. What are you basing that on?

Just be clear. Feels like he's a guy who enjoys a Jimmy John's every once in a while, you know? The saying, he'd be in the rotation that he wanted to be. No, they talk about the sandwiches. Don't sleep on Jimmy John's chips. Their chips are strong. The cookies, the chips,

you get a nice complete meal here with JJ's. What kind of chips you got there, Chris? Going with the little barbecue flavored chips here. Listen to this crunch. Solid. Number four. I got salt and vinegar. We're at number three. Number three. But got salt and vinegar. We're at number three.

Number three. But that sound of Chris eating those chips makes me want to hit the June Kune Bong. Excellent. See what you did there. How you spelling that StuGuts? B-O-N-G. Not wrong. He's directionally correct on that as well.

Fundamentally. Fundamentally directionally correct. Number two, Tree Rollins. Excellent. Staple on my list. Feel like we've hit all the ones, like what could be number one be? Number one, J.R. Smith.

Yep. Checks out. No Manu Bull or Bull Bull. Huh? Pablo, any thoughts on the Luca piece that just dropped by Tim McMahon? Yeah, I mean, I just scarfed down so many Jimmy John's BBQ

chips, this like 5,000 word Tim McMahon piece. Tim is incredibly plugged in to this team over at ESPN. He just tells the story of how there is so much more to why this has fallen apart. A lot of having to do with the medical staff, a lot of it having to do with Nico Harrison installing his own people who are in charge now of the bodies of these players breaking the trust of Dirk Nowitzki and this guy Casey Smith who was like the NBA's highly regarded medical trainer one of

the best in the league the guy in Dallas it just seems like when it comes to a coalition you might even say that you need when you make a trade like this Nico Harrison doesn't have it and it's just incredible palace intrigue, man. All around like injuries, all around Dirk and Luca, basically in communication about why they shouldn't trust this guy. And it is something that you don't want to read if you're a fan of the Dallas Mavericks who just traded

for Anthony Davis, whose body you may have heard is in need of medical attention. Not a great thing to know that your medical staff is internally feuding. and also you messed up the worst transaction in the history of sports. Not great. Not great. Zaslow, I saw over many years what morning radio did to you.

It was. What it do? It just. It aged you. Yeah, it aged you a great deal. Pablo last week had to do a week. He starred on morning television. I want to ask him in a second about Pete Hegseth's general awful around Jackie Robinson and all things at DEI,

but can you give Pablo some words of advice on what mornings might do to him? Oh my god, Pablo, like you have a choice whether or not to do mornings, I would tell you don't do evenings along with it because I did evenings into mornings for seven consecutive years, that was troublesome. I used to have a nice head of hair, all right, and now I have no hair on this beautiful head. And the little hair that I do have is very gray, all right.

Don't work nights if you're going to do mornings That's really the best advice I can give. I have Zazz like Noah Wiley in the pit like just that But then at the end of his shift, he's lost all of his hair due to stress. Good show, by the way I watch that. Great show. Good show What do you have for me most recently on Hegseth? Just that they're the Dallas Mavericks the defense department of the united states of the u.s. government every news story that involves all by the way this clean house this fired like an entire cabinet

uh... over at d o d followed by oh by the way he's also been on a separate signal chat with his brother and his wife in his personal attorney on his personal cell phone which is talking about yet more airstrikes. All of it just makes me think of how his only defense for any of this so far, in writing at least, has been to reply to the Democrats Twitter account talking about how the reason that you're against me is because you're in favor of DEI and DEI is dead at the Department of Defense.

And all I can think about is how there is no greater example of truly unqualified incompetence and overall fraudulence than this guy. This guy is the ultimate affirmative action hire. He is the guy that they hired because they wanted to put a literal Fox News weekend host up there and has proven in three months that he is totally unqualified for this job. Like the next time you hear anybody in this administration yell about DEI, and by the way, I'm not saying that DEI didn't have its excesses, didn't have its own mistakes

when it came to what it became by 2025. But the next time you hear anybody from this administration tell you about DEI, just know that they should be looking into a goddamn mirror and seeing the face of Pete Hegseth who has stepped on a series of rakes that is unprecedented, truly unprecedented when it comes to the American military and how the Department of Defense has been run. It is unbelievable. and it would be hilarious if it wasn't also the thing trying to keep all of us literally alive.

Alright, excellent dismount. Good talking to you. Thanks for all your time and all your hard work on PabloToryFindsOut. It is a, it really is. It deserves all the awards that it gets. Thank you Pablo. Good seeing you. Good talking to you. I'd like a sandwich next though. They're really good, man.

I'm going a little bit crazy here, looking at this one, smelling this one. I wanted to ask you, before we got out of here, for this segment, Stugatz, I saw on Apple Plus TV a documentary about the World Series last year. When your internet was working. Yes.

Yes, good call, yes. Last week. It was last week, back during, really, my glory days of internet. Better times. Yes, the weekend, it was a calamity. But I did. I was gangster. I did see last week that there is an Apple Plus documentary

on the Dodgers winning the World Series last year. And I don't know if you've seen, Apple has a ton of options on what it can make and it makes some really prestige television and it can choose whatever it wants with all of the money in the world and it's choosing some giant brands, right? 10 part series on the Patriots, Magic Johnson, like just big things.

So they do the World Series because they've got their big Friday package and it is executive produced by. Derek Jeter. And so I'm wondering how that felt, taking that money for Jeter, celebrating the Dodger championship over his Yankees that had a just giant explosion in the World Series Aaron Judge drops a fly ball and now you're you've agreed to executive produce a series in which you're going to celebrate eternally the Dodgers beating your franchise when you're the greatest of rivals that there is in that

sport. Were Yankee fans upset with him? They had to be. That's 20 shares for Boomer and Gio. I don't know whether they're upset with him. I'm just asking the rest of you. Derek Jeter clearly made a deal with Apple before that series. And his name is executive producer on Watch the Dodgers. Hey, here's Freddie Freeman. Oh my God, the most heartbreaking home run

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