The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: What's Wrong With Nick Wright?

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Nick Wright felt that last time he was on our show he was too self-involved, so this time he starts a blood feud with a former Kansas City radio host. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastc...hoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 But he is nonetheless your favorite critic's favorite critic. Another pathetic distinction. But please welcome anyway, the man who proved the first word in media is always me. And you can't spell mierda without the letters in media. He's never wrong. He's always right. Ladies and gentlemen, a bigger gas pack than my son, Nick Wright. Very exciting.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Nick Wright is here. We're always excited to see him. Congratulations on getting the poppy intro. That is the highest honor. It's a legit honor. Yeah, yes, absolutely. And I, you know, I felt a little badly because the last time I was on here, it was a little too like self-congratulatory and talking about me and Tony Reale when you guys were basking in the glory of a minor sports championship. And now I'm doing it again, because I'm so like that is I've never met Poppy.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I watched him carry you on TV for the better part of a decade. But I, it was, that was great. That was really touching. That was really cool. Watch your mouth. Back to back minor championship, okay? Yeah, that's right. So I'm back to back minor championships for a mini dynasty
Starting point is 00:02:12 How about that look at what though the I mean go cats cats roar? What do you guys say? I don't know yeah, you got it exactly right cat. That's that's the motto cats roar Exactly per maybe a bit good to see That or how this time than last time talking about did you? Did you object to Nick saying it's a minor a minor championship? Yeah, the Stanley Cup is the most prestigious of all the sports trophies. Hey minor. Well, I mean, I don't know They do we're really gonna do that the the World Cup trophy's a pretty substantial one. I'll take back. They've changed it. We're talking about in our North American sports.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's what I'm talking about. It's a terrible trophy considering how hard it is to win and also the design has been changed. That it's small. I get that. I understand that. But again, we are, you're talking about when you say our North American sports, you're really, if you're including hockey, you're really about, when you say our North American sports, you're really, if you're including hockey,
Starting point is 00:03:07 you're really opening up the aperture to, I don't know what you get for being the best ultimate Frisbee player, team in the world. Like I'm familiar with the major sport trophies, the Larry O'Brien, the Vince Lombardi, and the World Series. Like those are the ones I'm familiar with. But again, so I can't speak to it.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I know it's cool. I'm happy for you guys. It was, I probably wasn't, you know, probably wasn't the greatest timing for me to come on hours after you guys had, you know, completed your mini dynasty. Is it possible to be the best trophy but not the best championship?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Oh, definitely. Absolutely. Of course. Like, I don't know. Again, now I'm really out of my depth here a bit. But I don't know that the Oscar trophy is the best acting trophy, but it's obviously the pinnacle of achievement. So yeah, of course it could be the best trophy and not the best championship. Just like you guys can have the coolest studio but not be the best show. Like I mean, I'm not saying that's the case. I'm simply saying that could happen. So we don't have the coolest studio? No, no, maybe it's both. I was again, I was just pulling things. Sounds like you're saying it's
Starting point is 00:04:21 neither. No, I'm not saying anything. I was just using a for instance. See, Dan, this is why we should have started with LeBron. We should have, yeah. I don't know what, I feel attacked. Ultimate frisbee is insulting. Like what he just did there with ultimate frisbee, that's offensive. For a guy that likes to pick.
Starting point is 00:04:39 All right, you know what? I'm on in Miami. Let me be more fair. What do you get for winning? Hi ally? Well, you win the commissioners cup the battle this team wouldn't know it's been a while It's been a while. We won the first one this dedication that damn man who is killing the team. I've been telling you for years We own a highlight team. So you've been trying to even salted us a few draft the same team You've insulted us a few different ways. They draft the same team every year, Nick. You think I just pulled high-lie?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Of course I know that. Nick, let's advance a conversation. Why is Patrick Mahomes considered fat, and how do you think his body's gonna age? Let's get that, let's get another picture. The annual tradition of Patrick Mahomes looking like he's got a bit of a dad bod. Here you go, Nick.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Okay, this is the peak male physique given his job, first of all. Second of all, you guys, this is such a funny thing that this has come up because pro football talk and awful announcing and everything are saying Kansas City radio host. But the guy at play here, not only is he no longer a Kansas City radio host, but he is also,
Starting point is 00:05:47 I joke somewhat about having a list of rivals. What was not a joke was 15 years ago, I was in a blood feud with this man where he went on the record calling me the Jacksonville Jaguars and he was the New England Patriots and mocked me at every turn and in old school silly radio wars, when I finally beat him in the ratings 15 years ago as a kid, I held the listener party at his radio station's restaurant. Smash cut to 10 years later, he owned the radio station by the way, owned it.
Starting point is 00:06:31 He got forced out because of a horrific thing he said about Andy Reid of a place he owned. So he did what every low IQ, not that talented, but I like talking into the radio guy does, which is like, well, maybe I like talking into the radio guy does which is like well maybe I'll just make the turn to Neanderthal politics and that's been like his little niche and so he then on a I mean a podcast that can't have 35 listeners said this about Patrick Mahomes and now for the first time in a decade he's
Starting point is 00:07:05 noteworthy while I'm on you know America's you know one of America's premier platforms which is to say not to make it about me but we know who won that battle sorry Keats that son of a bitch I hated him so much oh my goodness gracious and people like oh Nick don't you're punching down, no, no, it will never feel like punching down. To bad dude who was bad for my city and now people are like local Kansas City radio host. That guy, it's like calling someone a local television host if 30 years ago they bought time overnight.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Like give me a break. Nick, what does a blood feud with you look like? Well, that one you just saw. That one I just, you know, I'm overnight, like give me a break. Nick, what does a blood feud with you look like? Well, that one you just saw. That one I just, you know, I'm an intensely, I try to think I'm an intensely loyal guy. And so I, you know, like I will even at times to my own detriment, try to back my people. But if you're not that,
Starting point is 00:08:05 and I also think like you hit the trifecta of being a bad person, being dishonest, and the thing that's worse than all those, totally and wholly untalented, I just never let it go. We've been looking for the sound, and we have not found the sound on Patrick Mahomes, but we have not found the sound on Patrick Mahomes, but we have
Starting point is 00:08:25 found this particular sound on the aforementioned awful individual and this is just the random sound we pulled up. And now ICE is the 14th largest military in the world. I don't think by number of soldiers and not by obviously the tactical weapons or vehicles or devices that they have, but their budget now this year, their budget, $37.5 billion, is the 14th largest military budget in the world. I love that. Let's go ICE. Get it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Because listen, let me tell you something. When you live in the most landlocked state, the furthest thing from a border state imaginable, Kansas. Your top priority is immigration and customs enforcement. There's not an international airport to be seen and you're surrounded on all sides. But yeah, but that's the priority of the day. I sent the podcast just as a whole to one of our producers. I'm like, get the fat clip.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And he sends me, but he's like, buddy, I think we got bigger problems in the fat clip. No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you the worst, the absolute worst. And I wish I could find it. Maybe I can, hold on. Let me see if it's back here. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Let's take a look at it. Yeah, don't worry. I did the thing where you push back with the wrong chair. I love that, that's super fun. So I had I have in here somewhere But I can't find it. I apologize. We can hear you. No, no, no, because it might not be in here I'll go ahead go ahead and look for it. Well, just put it on the pole at LeBata show Do you I might have to walk out of the room? Do you do you love pushing I'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Do you love pushing back on a rolling chair at LeBotard's show? Chris, please push the sound for Billy. He's giggling behind you in the background and it should have a soundtrack as he does that. I mean, Nick should know this given his KC roots, but that area of the country does not shut up about this border war.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Good joke at the expense of the border war in Missouri. Little Jayhawks Tigers, huh? You like that? I'm gonna come up with some fake podcasts to try to trick Nick. Kansas City and Missouri football, I'm trying to think of a rivalry. Just heard him yell.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You heard him yell from another? I found it. I found it I found it good pay off here's the deal so when I reference that the guy said he was the Patriots and I was the Jags that is in a way too long, like literally 12,000 word piece that was written on me that I thought was going to be like this kid from Kansas City is making waves on the radio and gonna take down the establishment. And instead it's this, What's wrong with Nick Wright?
Starting point is 00:11:28 And it's about this kid's delusion that he one day is going to be a media magnate when in current day, and they include in the lead as a nice little dig, He opines about his greatness from his townhouse in downtown. Like this guy doesn't even have a home yet. And he's quoted in that in this story, basically talking about how I'm out of my mind. Now, of course, ever literally every single thing I said I was going to do, I've done. But I'll never get over it. But this, I framed. You'll never get over it. You framed it. It's exceptional that you framed it
Starting point is 00:12:08 and didn't know exactly where it was even though you'd framed it. You sound as winded as Mark Jackson just from rummaging around for it. Let's go ahead and play this sound of a winded Mark Jackson explaining. This was right after the Knicks had signed Mike Brown and Mark Jackson isn't happy about it because he was also qualified and the way that he was qualified is that he had
Starting point is 00:12:30 the best shooting backcourt of all time and never got out of the second round and then it immediately became a dynasty and won several championships to whom it may concern blessings You're more than qualified Your resume says you're more than qualified your body of work says you're more than qualified. Your resume says you're more than qualified. Your body of work says you're more than qualified. So it's easy to get depressed. It's easy to get discouraged. It's easy to get down. It's easy to have doubt and start questioning. I don't know who
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm talking to. I prayed about it, asked about it, and it didn't happen. Well, it didn't happen for a reason. The worst place to be in this world is outside the will of God. Don't miss your shout. What's yours is yours. Stay ready so you don't have to get ready. That's enough to run on. I got to go. Blessings. Put it on the poll, please, at Leard's show. The worst place to be in the world, outside of God's will or inside of James Dolan's will. Nick, what are your thoughts there? My first thought is that's a bad poll question. Again, I am a guest here and you guys have been putting absurd things without context on the poll for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I still might reconsider that one before I hit send. Just the thought. I'm ready to vote. I do think that it's pretty clear that Mark Jackson is not judged purely on his basketball reference coaching page. Now maybe he shouldn't be. Like there are, I know there are some people that absolutely swear by Mark Jackson and love him, and I know there are some people within the Warriors that feel like there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff that was really, really unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But I, you know, he I'm sure doesn't feel that way. And I understand why. I mean, you're saying he never got out of the second round with Stephen Clay. Yes, that's true. I also think Stephen Clay weren't the fully formed versions of themselves. They were playing David Lee.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It's not like Steve Kerr had this brilliant epiphany about Draymond. It was more David Lee got hurt, Steph got better. Steve Kerr also, by the way, is one of the 10 greatest coaches of all time. So that probably, you know, is maybe an unfair standard judge him against. And I understand the frustration when he sees certain guys get job after job after job. I do understand that, but I don't think for Mark Jackson, I think Mark Jackson, I think Blackball is too strong, but I do think like he's not getting an, it seems like the NBA has decided he's not getting another job. Hey everybody.
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Starting point is 00:17:54 Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Don Lebertard! I may take it one step further. Wait a minute, we haven't... You're getting sexier by the moment. Slow down! Slow down, we haven't... You're getting sexier by the moment. Slow down, slow down. We haven't even gotten... Stugats!
Starting point is 00:18:10 Jason Sanders, you're unnoticed. Oh wow! Oh my god! What in spite of him! Oh wow! I love you, Duke. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the StGats.
Starting point is 00:18:25 He doesn't sound like a guy who spent any time thinking, what did I do wrong to not get another interview? Why would he think it's wrong? Well maybe he doesn't think he did it. Why would he think it's wrong? He's deeply religious and he said homophobic things and he wouldn't have wanted a gay player in the locker room and it probably has more to do with why it is
Starting point is 00:18:56 he hasn't been hired since than his coaching resume. So you know, so here's the thing, Dan, and this is, you know, maybe, not maybe, this is unfortunate, but I just, I think it's probably reality. I think that is less of an impediment to him getting a job than maybe some of the behind the scenes, political and alleged backstabbing he did.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I think people maybe would look past that if there weren't people worried that if I bring this guy into my organ, and again, I'm not a reporter, somebody get Pablo on it. I don't know if this is true or not, but a lot of the stuff that was alleged about how he acted behind the scenes, I think people in positions of power are like, well, I don't wanna be on the other end of that. And that to me is probably a big piece of it. We have less than 10 minutes left,
Starting point is 00:20:01 and it's not enough time, given that Nick Wright is about as big a supporter in the media as LeBron James has. This is truth teller. But it's Ra's al Ghul for the world's LeBron James Discord just bringing balance in a world wildly and insanely out of balance. You are a better so you have to bet on what's more probable LeBron finishing next year as a Laker or not as a Laker? Oh, more probable. If you offered me even money, I'd bet LeBron finishing next year as a Laker.
Starting point is 00:20:31 But the LeBron, I am enraged at the LeBron James discourse because, and by the way, it's a lot of people that I actually really like and respect that are... Here's the timeline of it. Two months ago, this is going to be the wildest offseason in NBA history. Shams. Shams. Buckle up, everybody! Get ready!
Starting point is 00:20:58 Offseason starts. Durant gets traded. That's cool. More on that in a moment, but we all knew that was coming. Since then, the only thing of note is Norman Powell, you guys stealing him away. And credit to you guys, Norman Powell's a nice player. Also, it is not lost on me that nobody, the only moment in anyone's life where they've actually spent real time pretending to care about Norman Powell's when they were like, won't someone think of Norman Powell in the four minutes in the All-Star game he could have gotten if LeBron would have just told him he wasn't going to play? Somebody think of Norman Powell.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But I digress. Then, in the middle of all of it, the greatest or at worst, second greatest player of all time who's never been traded, who's never been the subject of trade rumors because he honors his contracts and no team would ever trade him even when they were offered Prime Kobe Bryant for him and he was 22 years old they wouldn't trade him. He might be available and the collective media has been either a shrug or open annoyance. Oh, I guess we're gonna do this again. Another summer of LeBron. I'm sorry, you'd rather talk
Starting point is 00:22:11 about the second apron some more? We'd rather talk about Jonathan Kaminga's restricted free agency offer? I'm interested in LeBron for Carl Anthony Towns, who says no? I'm interested in, are the Lakers being derelict of responsibility by allegedly prioritizing cap space in two years when they have Luca Donjic and LeBron James on their team. And now back to the Durant thing, because everyone's response has been,
Starting point is 00:22:41 well, it's a 40 year old LeBron James. Last year, if you were not named, Joker, Shea, Giannis, Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, you finished behind LeBron James in MVP voting and in first team all-MBA voting. He was, despite by the voters, of which I'm not one, the sixth most valuable and the sixth best player in the league last year. the sixth most valuable and the sixth best player in the league last year. We just saw an old player who he is better than, Kevin Durant, be traded for a decent amount of stuff and the universal reaction, myself included, is what a great trade by the Rockets. They could win the title and then a player who's better than him might be available and people are like who would really want him? Like really you're gonna you're gonna change things up for a guy who at this point is
Starting point is 00:23:32 I don't know the seventh best player in the league and by the way Doesn't he acknowledge that him making 52 million dollars is part of the problem when Jimmy Butler makes the same? When Carl Anthony Towns makes more when it's a roughly what Zach Levine makes it's all nonsense name names on media people who you mad at Howard Beck who you mad at well I love Howard Beck and Howard Beck is not at all a flamethrower but he was just I read his column and then I listened to the pod and he was just, he seemed like annoyed that this was a story. And I don't get it. I don't understand. So, and you mentioned Howard, not me, and I think Howard's great. I just don't... Well, you didn't mention any names. You just said in general. You didn't mention any names.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah, I don't, yeah. It general um The general what do you call it? Atmosphere for lack of a better term well That's the term you want to use if you don't want to name the reporters you're talking about who you otherwise like I like them. Oh, but what are they but who's who's breathless? Let me see it. Can I accuse you let me see here straw man If you don't name names then it becomes a strawman. If you're just saying they say or many people are saying like you did. Well see now you're, listen I know what you're trying, you're trying to, you're trying to
Starting point is 00:24:54 bait me into a viral clip or an awful announcing piece and you know what? It worked. You're Guy Simmons. I mean, Bill, how many, how, I gotta listen to more about how, you know, Go on. Yes, LeBron James is good. But at this point, every time he does a pod,
Starting point is 00:25:17 he goes from 13th to 15th to 17th best player. We just saw a season that, oh, you can't, you can't, if LeBron's making 52 million you can't win a title. In what world? In what world is the sixth or seventh best player alive being the 13th highest paid player an impediment to winning? And in what, and again, if your belief system purely was that, well, it's just at that age. Except you worship at the altar of Steph Curry, who LeBron James was better than in the Olympics, in the regular season, right now. Kevin Durant, who LeBron James was better than.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Like, what are we talking about? Like just, again, I am just trying to be fair. That's all I ask for anybody. Just be fair. And when, you know, when Bron does something that I think is wrong or it doesn't play well or takes a shot at Wendy, which I thought was unnecessary and misguided, I will say it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And when everyone for the 15th straight year, ever since the decision anniversary yesterday And by the way, all of us probably made some good money off with the tide that raised No, none more so than every single person in that room Then you know acts like he's an annoyance. I think is outrageous. That's all Nick I will say like you asked what world does all those things that LeBron has done this year does not win a championship. This world, right? They got clapped by the by the Wolves. No, I hold on. I didn't say I I did not say that LeBron James in and of himself guarantees you a championship.
Starting point is 00:26:57 What I am saying is this. Jimmy Butler, who is in any metric an inferior player by eye test, stat and availability to LeBron James comes available, the Warriors trade for him and we're like, oh my God, can they win the championship now? Kevin Durant, who is less available and by any metric, slightly but an inferior player still to LeBron James gets traded to the Houston Rockets.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And we're like, they might win the championship. If Steph Curry were potentially 5% available, everyone would be like, oh my God. And he makes 10 million more than LeBron and his team was below 500 before they traded for Jimmy. And yes, got clapped by the Wolves. Can you imagine thinking you're a championship contender and losing to the wolves in five games?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Just like the Golden State Warriors did so I just again. I'm just asking for an error of consistency. That's all well But Nick isn't the part that people are annoyed with is the behavior is so passive aggressive. That's what it is Like it's like what we're trying to decipher code here to figure out what LeBron actually wants. Hold on, really? Zazz? I'll be honest. What do you think he wants? I bet you can say it immediately because it's not hard to understand. Either try to win right now or move or trade me.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Where's the code? It wasn't passive aggressive and it wasn't in code and it wasn't in hieroglyphics. It was very simple. You guys seem focused on the future. I'm going into year 23, I'm 40. My son is on the team, I'm that old. So, you know, as the great Marlo Stanfield once said, do it or don't, but I got places to be.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I mean, the statement that Rich Paul put out, I don't know, it didn't look real clear cut to me. But it's as strong as it can be under the circumstances if you're opting in. Zaz, I'm not trying to be combative. Was there any interpretation to that statement other than the one that I just said? I would like you to be aggressive to win now,
Starting point is 00:28:59 and if you're not going to be, we should reevaluate our relationship. Isn't that the only, the universal reading of it? Or was there another one I didn't see? Well, but what do you, what are you expecting them to do? If you're LeBron there? Oh, I don't know. What move is out there?
Starting point is 00:29:16 How about this? How about this? Not have Dorian Finney Smith on the team who Luca adores and is useful in today's league. Do a whisper campaign around the league about his medicals to try to tear down his value. Have him then leave for Houston and you then leak to your media people, we were fine with it because we want cap space open in 2027. And then Dorian Finney Smith's contract comes out and it's like, oh, it's a team option in the summer of 2027. How about that?
Starting point is 00:29:49 How about not have the entirety of the good general managing moves you've made in the last decade be LeBron calls and you answer, LeBron calls Anthony Davis and puts you on the phone and Nico Harrison makes the single worst trade in league history. How about that? It's not a lot. Don LeBotard. I saw a post on Twitter yesterday how the Toronto Maple Leafs, that they won the division. Guess what? It's been two years, and that's two years too long.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Stugats. You can take that ass too! Ah, we're taking two asses! This is the Don LeBotard Show, with. Stugats. You can take that ass too. Oh, we're taking two asses. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. So why don't you just opt out of here, LeBron? Opt out. He wants some money. So that's the common easy thing to say. Why not opt out? And the answer is because there
Starting point is 00:30:56 is a obvious problem with opting out right now, which is if you want max money, Brooklyn's the only one that can get it. Now can say no you've made a billion dollars Take the league minimum which by the way for the vast majority of contenders All they could offer you is the literal league minimum or something very close to it You know as well as everyone in that room if LeBron James had opted out and taken the minimum to sign with Denver or wherever Universal fake ring. Oh, give me a break. Yeah stacking the deck another LeBron James con job and Unfair to the other players now. There's an expectation. There was no scenario
Starting point is 00:31:42 Oh Nick so LeBron why not opt out take less to give the Lakers more flexibility Again, that's not a thing that existed if LeBron took a salary from 52 million to 15 million You know how many dollars in cap space that opens for the Lakers zero So again, we this is this is my frustration finish the thought somebody opt out take the minimum sign with who? Fine if anybody that acts like had he done that it would have been like wow Good for LeBron Selfless cares about winning when the entire narrative would have been stacking the deck Fake-ring all this We all know it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And the other piece of this, nobody's ever done that. Hey LeBron, we would like you when you just were sixth in MVP voting and you already make less money than Carl Anthony Townes to make even less. No one in the history of the league has ever done anything similar to it. Nick Dirk took less.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Dirk was 11 points per game. It was seven in his final year. It's not the same. Kobe didn't take less and Kobe was on a 30-win team. But again... I don't think he gets killed if he goes to Cleveland or New York. I don't think he gets killed if he goes to either one of those two. If he goes there on the minimum, there is... Cleveland? Cleveland on the minimum to close the story. We gotta go, let's play our game here. We're gonna pick this up.
Starting point is 00:33:10 He's always ready to talk about LeBron, but let's just play a game with him real quick as we punctuate this segment. We've got new intro. Thank you for finally acknowledging something. Maybe Cleveland, but let's play the intro music, please. Listen up, time to think fast. finally acknowledge something. Maybe. Maybe Cleveland, but let's play the intro music, please. Listen up.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Time to think fast. Is this a real or fake podcast? Nick Wright is pushing the pile with Kyle Long, a real or fake podcast. I love Kyle Long. He was an offensive lineman. I didn't think that was the name of his podcast though. I'm going to say yes. It is real.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Congratulations, Nick. That's very good. You're good at this game, but most people are bad at it, but you got to think quick. Go ahead, Mike. I said what I said with Rod Strickland. No, fake. It's fake. Glue Guy with Bruno Sundov. Real.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Why do you have to think about that one? That one's fake. Why would you think? Bruno Sundov does not host a podcast called Gluguy. I don't know who Bruno Sundov is. I thought he was a member of the two-time defending Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers. Former Maverick. Make no mistake with Kenny Anderson. Make no mistake with Kenny Anderson.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Fake. That is fake. Say it with your chest, featuring John Henderson and Albert Hainsworth. Albert Hainsworth? And John Henderson? Teammates in Tennessee. You know what? Real.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That one's fake. Better recognize with Calbert Cheney. No, that's fake. Let me cook with Brian Cook. Come on. No, that's fake. It's clearly Dalvin Cook. No, it's a real podcast,
Starting point is 00:35:01 but it's not hosted by Brian Cook. It should be though. Oh, that's been, I've been, it's a real podcast, but it's not hosted by Brian Cook. It should be though. Oh that's been, that's been, it's fake. Then I was right. Our thanks to Nick Wright. He's always right. The host of What's Right with Nick Wright
Starting point is 00:35:13 and FS1's First Things First. You can watch him on First Things First weekdays at 3 p.m. Eastern on FS1. Good seeing you sir, always good catching up. Thank you. Today the TV shows at two and tomorrow on the pod, a major announcement involving me and Poker right at the start of the pod, so check it out then.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Thanks guys. Whoa, major, major announcement. Come on, give us, give us, come on, come on. You got into the WSOP? I know what it is. Just tell us. Chris, God, you sons of bitches, this is rude. See ya.
Starting point is 00:35:41 All right, see ya later. For those in the audio audience, he's just finding it rude because we put up that picture again that he himself has described as his nose casting shade on his teeth because there's an actual shadow. There's a, it's an unfair photo. It's not, but it is, it's a real photo.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's not a doctored photo. He looks like a superhero villain. I do know his big announcement, but I'm not gonna say it. What is it? Chris Cody is developing an off-air friendship with Nick Wright that's beginning to annoy me where he does things like check with him
Starting point is 00:36:11 on whether an intro's okay when I wanted the surprise delight of Nick Wright hearing my father's voice introducing him, but he thought there were too many insults in it. Well, why don't you tell us the news, just say sources, and then break the news. Hmm, do you wanna betray him? Nah, do it, come on. I'm not gonna do it. All right, tell me, I'll do it, I don't you tell us the news just say sources and then break the news? Hmm, so you want to betray him? No do it come I do it all right tell me I'll do it I don't care it's time now for the pickle with Billy Gill on a wild Willie Wednesday
Starting point is 00:36:33 My movie The yourself pickles really how much the pickle is a new and popular game on a wild Willie Wednesday Let's find out what today's pickle is on Willy Wednesday, let's find out what today's pickle is. All right, hi guys, it's me, Billy. Hi, Billy. Hey, Billy. Hello, Billy. So I have a question for you. I was in a pickle the other day.
Starting point is 00:36:56 So I was driving down the street and I saw walking on the street a former sort of coworker. I saw walking on the street a former sort of coworker. On the street I was driving a sort of former coworker because they weren't actually coworkers, they just worked in the same building as us but we worked in different, we had different employers in the same building. But I was friends with this person at the time.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It wasn't like a breakup, I think we're still friends, but the point is is the person did not work with us, but we would interact with this person every day. So I consider the person a friend, but saying it was a coworker would be too much because the person didn't work with us. So is this a game of friend or coworker or is it Pickle? No, this is the Pickle.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Do you say hello? It sounds like Fog. Do you say hello, Ho-Too? Fog! Well, so, the person is there waiting across the street, I'm waiting at the light, waiting to turn. Do I say hello to this person or not? Cause the person doesn't see me.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I'm just in my car. And again, not a coworker worked in the same building, but not the same employer. You mentioned all of that. Is it Braun St. John? This feels like a good spot where you can say hello and you don't have to do a stop and chat. So like you get credit for saying hello without having the whole- But then what do you do? Do you stop and say hello and you don't have to do a stop and chat. So like you get credit for saying hello without having
Starting point is 00:38:06 the whole. But then what do you do? Do you stop and say hello and then if you get the lead light you wait and then the people behind you get mad or what do you do? I think it's a double honk. Doot doot. A honk.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Hey. Does he know? Wait, is it Ron St. John? No, was it Ron San Juan? From Michael. It seems to those people. Is he still with us? Whoa, Dan. Ron, I think so.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I know Gary Blau isn't. What? No! It's just a question. I think that is a honk, a light honk, and at very least a point situation. That's a- Okay, gotta throw a point. That's one index finger. Is it David Corey?
Starting point is 00:38:38 And probably with a honk. Now let me give you a one-up. This person was wearing air pods at the time So now it's kind of like was this person even gonna hear me if I do this because I could very easily just keep Driving get away. No one would know ever was it las the IT director? I had a situation like this in Vegas. This is gonna take a dark turn here unfortunately But it is something that I remember with a decent amount of guilt. I was in Vegas and saw a friend of mine at a nearby table
Starting point is 00:39:11 that I knew from college and hadn't seen in about 15 years, but I didn't wanna catch up. And so I just kept moving and then no lie, five months later, I ain't God, hit by a bus. Like actually hit, yes, actually hit and killed by a bus. I don't know. Lucky you, you never had to be in that situation again. Lucky me.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, so you were thinking probably. That's exactly what I was thinking. It's what I'm still thinking. Well, you said you don't wanna talk to them. Now you don't have to. Do you regret not talking to them? Yes. You do?
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah, well, I'm bringing it up because Sound like from my laughter like I regretted that but the reason that I'm pretty broken up about it The reason I brought it up is because I still carry the guilt of all of that story that I'm telling you that If I had to do it over again, I would indeed do it differently. You're not giving off much guilt. I can tell you felt guilty, especially when you were giggling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And then he died. Pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft. A bus. Pfft, pfft, pfft, pfft. That is what Samson did yesterday when he was telling us, when he was reviewing that movie, I thought it was just a perfect dismount
Starting point is 00:40:22 of the mayor of Toronto who was smoking crowd who's smoking crack because he just ended By telling the story and then he died of cancer I Think Ron st. John's still alive good Hopefully stays out of what was the co-worker because I would say hello. I rolled down the window. I go Wally This is Wally from the Cleveland. Oh the Cleveland. Yeah, that's perfect. It's Wally from the guy, I go, Wally! And then he looked around, I was like, I don't know if he heard me, because it's loud, and then I noticed the air pause, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:40:49 yo, Billy, how's it going? I'm like, great, how are you, man? He's like, oh, I'm living the dream. I was like, all right, man, I gotta go. He's had a full conversation with the guy. Yeah, wave, wave, stop it, Chef. Stop it, Wally! And then I had to go, I had to go.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I wish it could have gone longer, then I said, you know what, I'm gonna text him after, and I haven't yet, so I'm gonna put that down on my to-do list for today text Wally catch up I've gotta be honest That's an almost perfect scenario for seeing someone that you don't want to see I wanted to talk to him But I didn't have the time I liked Wally again Wally that was not a game of pickle. That was a game of friend or co-worker

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