The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Who Clears Out The Western Wall?

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

David Samson is here as we discuss Stugotz trying to get him to use his prayer at the holiest place on earth on the New York Jets. Samson also touches on his horrific flip-flop tan, Penn's deal with ESPN and what it means for Dave Portnoy and Barstool, and ego-based decisions for owners all while Pablo breaks HUGE political news. Plus, Jorge Masvidal and Udonis Haslem are now owners in Chris Cote's Jai Alai league, and college football realignment is getting too stupid for Lucy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. So David Samson is already laughing for reasons that are confusing to me. David, hello. Hello. What's going on with you? So David Samson is already laughing for reasons that are confusing to me David hello Hello, what's going on with you? I'm laughing because I haven't been able to speak to stew Off the air at all only on the air since I got back from Israel And to when I had a moment while I was there and I was reminded of it and now I'm back on the air with them So I still haven't been able to talk through it with him. So I just gonna have to do it on the air. What'd you do for me?

I mean, I know the discussion we had when you went to Israel. I know what I asked you to do I was not confident that you would actually do it So why don't you kind of take the audience through that? So when you go to Israel in theory whether you're Jewish or not Jewish you visit the Western Wall which is a prayer wall in Jerusalem, the holiest city for just about every religion there is. And Stu and I share religion. So he said to me, hey, while you're there,

would you mind putting in a good word for the jets? No. And I say, not for my kids, my family or anyone else, just the jets. Yep It blew my mind because for my standpoint what that wall is for is you say a prayer for health and with all the things that have gone on in My family and in dance family and everybody's family. There's a reason. There's a need for health So I thought Stu was gonna come up with something because he wasn't Beats to got this was off the air

So I thought that he was gonna say something meaningful and important, and he said to me, please put in a prayer for the jets. Well, did you? Prayer and Roger's health. Yes. I mean, have you seen all the injuries they've suffered over the last seven years?

I said to him, I don't know whether I can do it because we're asking the wall or God or whoever you pray to. Aaron Rodgers. Same breath. Care about Aaron Rodgers' health and the jets and care about someone who you love being sick. I don't know that I can do it, but then I got there. And I hadn't spoken to him. I'd been gone for a week or so. And all of a sudden, I take the piece of paper. I take the pen and I take video.

And here it is. Aaron Rogers leads the jets to a Super Bowl victory. And I have video of putting the paper in the wall of the Western wall and God is gonna strike me down right freaking hell. Wait, do you guys have God like opening like unfurling it like okay, Cure Nana from her really bad arthritis. Got it?

Yeah, he's in and off. He's like one of those pneumatic tubes. They get shot up into it. It's like Jetswin's Super Bowl. It's all mine. Like, or the guy like, finally, someone's's asking me for someone to get healed or money. It's what a super bowl, this is easy. It's so tired of all these sick people.

I'm gonna intervene with the NFL this year. And then when he's done, does God like ball it up and then she like, Kobe, like into the trash can? Looks like Kobe points out of him. It's even worse than that because there's so many pieces of paper inside the wall. And I'm shorter than the average person. So I was trying to find a place very low and I couldn't get very high.

You can see where the tall people pray because they can get the piece of paper in a place. They don't give you ladders and you can't really jump because you'll break your head open. So I had to put my prayers in a place. And then all I could picture being cynical is every night there must be a guy who comes and takes out every paper and then just throws it away. Because there's no way there's decades of people coming to this wall putting paper in there and like it still hasn't filled up somehow. There has to be. To big wall, I mean. It's not as big as you think. It's like a TV studio.

You think it's really big until you get there. And then you say, wow, this is not as big as I would have expected. But that said, there was no 30-year-old paper in there. And I've been to Israel many times. Clearly, somebody's job is to get rid of the paper. We're not getting rid of them. What did they do with it?

Wait, you guys have like a cleaning crew coming through every single night. Not a checking out the prayers. What people are asking for and whatever they do, meaningful stays in what they don't get thrown away. You've got to have been a driving range. You know the kid that loves that car. No, he hasn't. That collects all the balls and stuff. Yeah. It's like it just. You don't want to hit that thing. Yeah, he hasn't. That collects all the balls and stuff. It's like it just, yes.

You always try to hit that thing. That's he always try to hit. Got one of those. It's a big tractor with a rake behind it. But it just takes all the paper out. And then what they do is they take all those papers and they just FedEx from the God. It just lands.

He's got, this is the Lord, this is August the eighth, right here. Just stacked up. He's got an in and an out thing on his desk. Right. And the out is never a poll. And the end is a mountain hide. He never stops.

Can you imagine the guy whose job it is to decide which prayers are wall worthy and which are not? Oh, there's something that get left in them. And he sees Aaron Rogers leading the jet. Let's hope that guy is a jet fan. I mean, that's why I was laughing. Thank you for doing it.

I appreciate you doing that. A very tanned David Samson is joining us. And your tan, David, has been an object of fascination in a group chat I was on with Chris and Stu Gotts about whether we wanted you on the show today. And Chris wanted you on the show today not to talk about God and prayer is but because he noticed that you're... Would you call it Chris?

His farmer's tan on his feet. Let's pull this up. So this is a whole day of sandals. Can we zoom in? I want the... Lucy is horrified. Oh, my. What's going on here, David?

How many straight hours in the sun are we with flip flops for this kind of tan line? I only wear flip flops when I'm outside. If I'm not running in running shoes, other than that, I'm only in flip flops. So for weeks, whenever I do anything outside, it's just with flip flops. That seems like a poor choice. Why would you not crop the photo?

Like, why would you not just cut it out a little bit. LAUGHTER I-I-I'm a one-and-done guy. So that was the photo that was taken. I was actually trying to promote the nothing personal merchandise and to talk about sort of the past, the present and the future and my feet or just my feet, they were in the shot. One-and-done is also, um, you were ranking on wiki feet.

It's good to him. It's feet are fine. That's pretty funny. Yeah. Would you be shocked to know there's a backstory to that timeline? More like a foot story. Now that's funny.

You gave it to yourself, really? I have changed yourself. I appreciate yourself. It's ridiculous. There's a backstory beyond the fact that you were. A thousand sandals. Sounds like you were sandals and the sun was out and you got a tan. End of story. I can't see part of the problem is zoom is I actually can't see where the clock is or what

we're doing and I forgot to keep. You got plenty of time. You got plenty of time. you got plenty of time. We're not on air at all. The quick back story is that I was white water rafting in 1998 during the home run chase in the Grand Canyon. And I was not in baseball, I was working on Wall Street at the time.

And you have to wear these sandals that you buy that are strapped like Burkin Stock sandals. They have a strap over two parts. And for the first time in my life, I got a foot tan where there were marks on my feet after that trip. And that trip was one of the most meaningful trips of my life to the States,

one of the most meaningful trips of my life. And I was 30 years old and I looked down and I said I never want to forget that moment and how I felt in the canyon. And so from that day forward, I have had foot tan lines. I feel like Billy's version of the back story was a little better.

If I like a place I go and get a magnet or something. I don't change my lifestyle forever. And I've stuck with it. I've stuck with it for all these years, for 25 years that I continue. And every time I look at my feet, I've stuck with it for all these years, for 25 years, that I continue. And every time I look at my feet, I'm back in the canyon. I once tried to go to the Grand Canyon. I was covering Spring Training in Arizona

for Sports Illustrated. Trove at about like 2 PM out of Mesa, watch the Cubs, went with a friend of the Grand Canyon, got there. He was, he got there and it was f***ing dark. Oh yeah, no. I thought you got to say cold. Because I mean, it was cold, I was wearing shorts and sandals.

Yeah, that's the thing, it's like, you go to spring freezing, it's like, 85 degrees, everything's great. You're like, let's go to Grand Canyon and you drive up there, when you get up there and you get up to the rim, it is frigid because you realize, oh, Arizona's not hot. Southern Arizona's hot.

It was frigid and also, um, unlit. And I drove back having seen nothing. There are no floodlights. There are no, I really did not. You don't go there at night, dude. Yeah, that wasn't my plan. I planned it so badly, Pablo. How's that possible?

Even for you to have left at a time that your arrival would have been in the dark. We were racing the sun and I lost. They don't teach clocks at Harvard. Yeah. That's not making us about me, guys. Pablo Torrey finds out how time works after the break. Follow the, does anyone from Harvard ever contact you

and say like, can you stop? Just like stop what it is that you do? Yeah, just like I kind of feel like Harvard, they've got someone at Harvard there who's monitoring all the alums with their up to what diseases they're curing, what. This person just invented this. Yeah, Supreme Court over here.

Howlotory finds out the Harvard Alumni Association hates him after the break. Pablo, that's you. hablot or he finds out the harvard alumni association hate to have after the break poplod at show are you a disappointment to everyone what's a harvard are you uh... probably i mean there is a kid who's running for president who i went to school with this guy of the vick rama swammy

he used to sit in justice we have to get justice class it's moral reasoning twenty two i think and it was a big lecture hall and a Harry Potter sort of auditorium. And I only knew the big Ramaswamy presidential candidate. I believe pulling third right behind Ron DeSantis. Because he would raise his hand in lecture in the shape of a V. Ew! What?

I don't know, blood. Look, I've read a lot about this guy and that by far is the most alarming. Also, he went to our reunion. He went to our 15 year reunion, brought a black SUV that he just kept parked outside with the driver waiting in it and would like bring the food out of the reunion and eat it in his SUV

and have private get-togethers in this car. This is not someone that we should elect for any office. For various reasons. At the beginning when you said you knew a kid that was running for president, I thought it was an actual kid that went to Harvard with you. Like a 35, right? Like a Jonathan Lippnicki character. Like do they have those He's running for brother I'm like oh damn the human head weighs eight pounds. This is gonna get aggregated to like the hill now I think I just accidentally broke some

You did yeah gossip. Oh God. Well not accidentally you had a choice How long have you been waiting to bring that up since you saw that he was pulling months? How awful does inside of that car smell poor driver? They're just bringing food in there and Crumbs everywhere you got the drivers do it just fine. No Guys smells like tuna fish now. Where's David? I'm looking at the clock. I'm great I'm thinking about the fact that it's YLV Harvard in the presidential race and then it's Trump on the Republican side

And it just sort of promulgates every single issue that people have about the Ivy Leagues. And Pablo, you do nothing to make it better. David, thank you. Let's bring you back for another segment in which you can make fun of your feet again. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's a lie. I'm not keeping this act over there. Jets has been right the entire time about the Miami Heat and a mean here is getting buried by heat nation.

He's been telling you. He's been keeping your breathing. You're praising screws. He was all for nice. He's kidding. What is that? What are we doing? When screws go to the cup, he's looking to lay it up.

He's not looking to turn it over like Duncan Robinson is. Duncan Robinson is a coward. Listen, listen. He is a coward. Listen, listen. It is a coward. All right. Stugats. Chris?

A coward. And bam can be bam in DC. I am dumb with him. And Kyle Lowry's one of the worst postseason players in the history of the NBA. DC's the Dan Lebathar show with his Stugats. So the reason we actually brought David Samson on is to explain this massive story in the world of sports media, sports business, and gambling. And while I was contemplating how to phrase a tricky question for me as a part-time ESPN

employee, I noticed that there is a cwing in the shipping container because Jess brought her dog in and made me think of how much david samson is terrified of jess's dot one of my favorite moments in the history of the show seeing david's reaction to willow that will that's the name of the dog i'd still rather be in studio then on zoom that's so david when you saw the headline here that dav port noi the founder of barstool sports this cult figure in the

world of sports media has actually got in 100% of Barstool back. They had sold Barstool to pen gaming in some financial arrangement to make Barstool Sports Book a thing. I think he sold it for a half billion dollars, got it back for nothing. For zero dollars, reportedly. And so David, explain this headline because that part let alone the ESPN bet rebranding a pen gaming is one of those things that I don't know what to trust. So it's two totally different stories.

And I'm happy to start with the bar stool part but make sure that we do the ESPN part correctly. Bar stool and pen, they basically pen bought bar stool. Dave Porton, I used to run it, pen bought it. It was a step transaction and they valued the company at a ridiculous number. They then bought all of the company paid off Portonoi. However, they were then in charge. But the real money is in gambling and the real money is in betting. But the real money is in gambling, and the real money is in betting. And so, Barstool had an app. It was a betting app, and Penn was using that in 16 different states,

except it didn't get any market share. It wasn't going anywhere. And Penn Gaming said, we can do better than this. All we have is Suras with Dave Portner. We have to worry about everything the guy says. We'll read about our gambling licenses all the time, and we can't stand anymore. We want to get rid of them. Who's the best brand that we can associate with in sports?

ESPN. They knock on ESPN's door and they say, hey, you guys need some cash, don't you? You're under financial pressure, Disney stock price, under pressure. We'll give you $150 million a year if we can use your four letters. And ESPN said, wait, you'll give us $150 million every year for 10 years, plus the opportunity to buy stock in your company.

And all we have to do is change the name of bar stool app, the betting app to ESPN bet. You've got yourself a deal. It's a dream for Jimmy Petaro. The president of ESPN gets to bring cash on the books and he gets to say to his customers, you watch ESPN, we talk about the games, now you can bet on the games while we're talking about the games, we are a full service operation

and we will get the draft Kings and Fanduо doopily, we'll get on the podium and we'll get rid of all the competition. So that's one side of the deal. The bar stool side though, David, right? I wanna frame this in a very simple way for the audience to understand. Was this a win or a loss for Dave Portnoy?

It's a huge win because he no longer answers to anyone. He was always his own boss. He could hire who he wanted, Ben Mints. He could say what he wanted with reckless indifference toward licenses, toward regulation, toward a boss of any kind. The ultimate pirate ship guy went corporate and realized he was miserable and found a way out and all he had to give up was future Sales what does that mean a kicker if he ever sells bar stool because he now owns a hundred percent of it again

If he sells it to anyone Penn gets 50 percent so it's not like Portonoy owns 100% of the entity. He owns 100% of the annual profits or the annual losses. But if he monetizes bar stool, 50% of it still goes to Penn under the steel. Is it perpetuity? So it has not been reported how long this lasts because what Portonoy said is I will never sell. Well, never say never number one. Number two, your estate is going to have something to say about that once you croak. So whether or not this continues on after his death, we do not know this interest that Penn has in bar stool. Next, bar stool can't do its own gambling app. ESPN bet is with Penn bar stool on its own cannot compete

with them. Ever. So they're out of sports gambling for the length of this agreement. Which is an insignificant, by the way, because there's a lot of money in that. So they now would need to find a new way to generate all of that revenue that they would get from gambling companies. Well, yes, but Barstool, their app with Penn, it didn't really do well. They didn't have a big market share at all. It was not driving business the way that Penn thought it should and could.

So Penn ends up upgrading with ESPN. And Portanoi gets out of the gambling business when people are trying to get into it because he was so interested in keeping his voice. So he's stepping over dollars to pick up free nickels. And the free is his ability to talk. The nickels are the fact that he was willing to give up future potential money. The fact that he was willing to not do business

in the sports book world, in the ad revenue world for a period of time. All sorts of covenants is what you're reading. That means promises made by Portanoi that he will not do because he got the company back from Penn. Is it a trade worth doing? For both sides, it's a win-win.

David, do you think the combination of ESPN and Penn will be able to do what you suggested earlier? Knock out all the other competition because Fandall and Draftkings has a huge head start. Right, so I didn't say they'd knock him out. To me, it's getting on the podium, right? Right now, it's Draftkings Fandall and thereraft Kings has a huge head start. Right, so I didn't say they'd knock them out. To me, it's getting on the podium, right? Right now, it's Draft King Fandall, and there's no one else close.

Fox just went out of business. Barstool had a tiny chair, Caesar's, Bed MGM. They're all nothing compared to what Draft Kings and Fandall have done. The quet, what they're betting, what ESPN is betting, pun intended, is that they can be in the same stratosphere as draft kings and fandual.

Are they gonna replace them no way? But it is why you're seeing draft kings with the network and why fandual wanted a network and why they're trying to be all things to people because when you have audience, imagine, stew your audience, people watching your show, they can watch it on the network while the app is open, they can bet on Thursday thunder as an example,

all at the same time. And that's what will happen with ESPN bet. And that's what DraftKings wants to do is doing and will continue to do better as its distribution grows. But you're looking now at three different companies who are competing for the betting dollar and there's a lot of betting dollars out there. David, what kind of regulation exists with regards to ESPN being a news breaking outfit

and also having its own gambling operation? So you guys were doing your show, but on nothing personal this morning, which is a podcast that I do with MetalArc, it is a big topic for me, the conflict of interest with what happened as an example with Shams and the draft. I mean, what Shams was able to do when he tweeted out that there was going to be a different draft order and all of a sudden the line moved and Shams has a deal where he also gets paid by Fandwell. Is there a conflict there?

ESPN is going to be very careful because they do not want any sort of regulation. They don't want Washington interrupting any of what they're doing at all. But when you're watching a pregame show and they are the insiders are giving you information about a game, are you going to act on that information when it comes to placing a bet on ESPN bet?

ESPN is hoping you do, but they're not going to talk about it. They're going to talk about the ethical wall that they're going to build between inside information and the outgoing source of information about betting. They'll call it the ethical wall. Guess what? That's not how it works. People have information and the smart bettors are gonna know who to listen to when and try to take advantage of that. So the ethical wall you're describing is a tricky one, of course.

It's also a version that has existed when it comes to right steels and the journalists that are employed by the companies that pay for those rights. So this is a tricky dance that has happened throughout the decades. The difference spin here seems to be that there is actually, because of the nature of sports betting,

a more direct public relationship between news you're breaking and the ability for people to act on that, David. It's a familiar problem though, is my point at the same time. Right. I actually would would distinguish the problems. What you're talking about is when when owners watch MLB network can get annoyed when MLB network says something bad about their team and they call it the commissioner and say, I want that person off the air, or when the owner of a baseball team listens to what the announcer saying and suspends him like Kevin Brown or

fires him like John Miller, like the Orioles have done and that I've done as well. It is that there's no money there. That's ego and that is we don't want anything negative being spoken. What we're talking about within the gambling world, we're talking dollars and cents versus emotions and feelings. That's fair. Although I would imagine that in the minds of yourself and your colleagues, when you were making those calls,

there was ego with also a concern of protecting a brand, right? Like when you're, give me an example, David Samson, of you making a call to complain about something that you felt was entirely ego and not financial. When we would be criticized for a player move that we did sending out a player and the broadcast would say, well, that doesn't make sense to me. Like Yuri Perez right now with the Marlins when he was sent down.

Bad move. There was a lot of criticism, but she didn't get it from the announcers. Gabby Sanchez was not going after the Marlins for Yuri Perez being sent down. Why? He'd get in trouble. He's got a backup management and any time an announcer would do something, Tommy Hutton used to do it all the time. He was very critical of us and it bothered Jeffrey Laurie, the owner, very, very much, very much. We'd have to go into the booth during games and sometimes we'd lie to Jeffrey and say we did it,

because he wasn't there. And sometimes we'd actually do it, if we thought it was egregious. It's sort of like the prayers in the wall. We would look to see what the issue was. And we'd need the ones to decide whether we would answer Jeffrey's prayer or a question. But that's a real thing, but again, Pablo, no money. That was not even a brand issue.

That is just, hey, you're not being nice to me and I want you to be. David, we have a minute left and I heard Stugot's face. Hey, someone won. What's happening? What was that? I didn't meet you. I hit the button by mistake. Sorry. Dr. Thiesman again. We've all been there.

Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't Jot. David, really quick. I don't know if you already talked about this, but Kevin Brown, what happened to him with the Orioles? That's backfired, right? I mean, that has to be, that's got to come from the owner's box, right? There's no one working professional who would do that, would they?

It's only from the owner's box. And the angelos are famous Peter and then he passed that on to his sons. They put the thin in thin skinned and this did backfire and what I'd said on nothing personal is that if there's more to the story, the Orioles would have leaked it. If it wasn't just what he said about the rays and the Orioles, which is the clip we've all seen, if there's more to the story, once the negative press started happening and the avalanche began, they needed to leak what he actually did, even if it's private. No matter what it was, they had to

leak it, and no leaks have come out, which means all Kevin Brown did was do exactly what he should do, and that's why the Orioles are and gotten so much trouble. David Samson, the podcast is nothing personal, it is excellent, it is an unusual look at the inside of a boardroom where usually we don't get allowed. So thank you, David. You're not going to ask him about the angels. You've been trying to talk about the angels for two days here. Two goddamn David 30 seconds or less. How bad are the angels for not trading? Show Hey, O'Tani. I don't blame them. Who would want to be the guy to trade a future hall of Famer and get Bupkiss back? You'd have to be in any- Can people stop saying Bupkiss?

Why is everyone saying Bupkiss? We good joke by David. Good joke. Goodbye, David. Don Lebertard. Kiss me where you bruise me. Kiss me on that flashy part. Really?

Yeah. Really? Kiss me on that flashy part. Kiss me, not touch me. Kiss me on that flashy part. Wow, really. It takes me on that place, she pots. Taste me, not touch me. Taste me on that place, she pots. Wow, bro. Stugats. I'm talking about the cladder, is it?

Oh my god, the cladder is here. Sorry. Now we're out here riffin' and I'm gonna try to find it, if I can. Oh, wonderful rendition. This is the Don Lebertar I want a wonderful rendition. This is the Don't Liberty Show with this two cats. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ To give you a sense of how the sausage is made, how the sausage fingers are made here.

In between segments, I asked Chris Cody about this topic that was on our rundown for the show, the Sesta Cyclones, the highlight team that you own, had a draft and I said, Chris, it's a topic. What do you got? And you said, it happened. Look, it was on the topic yesterday. That's it.

More as like a preview of the draft. Now we're reviewing it. Look, we brought the old band back together. Last year was a terrible season for the Cessna Cyclone. So why did you bring them back together? Because two years ago, let me get to it, guys. Two years ago, we won a title with our core. And last year, the fourth, fifth, and round pick,

we had a lower pick, so we didn't get the guys we wanted. This year, because of last year's bad season, we were able to get the guys we wanted later in the draft. And we had the decision, we were being pressured by a lot of people thinking that we should not go with our manoeu, who we've had for three seasons, but we, you know, Douglas, Young, Younger,

more athletic guy, but we went with Old Faithful. We didn't think the top of our roster was the problem last year. So we're feeling good about the team. That's not what's happening here. What's happening? There's a new billionaire on the block who's entered the league. Mm-hmm.

A couple. Who's the other one? So Mossu Doll is now a corner in their league. You dees now a known or his early. Both in attendance last night. Man, we were the cool owners for a couple seasons. Like, last night, like in previous years, like early in the draft,

some lady would come up to me, hey, can we interview you for their little live live? I want to put this on the poll. Judy, you put on the poll, please. Is Chris Cody still a cool high ally owner? I'm telling you last night. That's a whole list though. I got interviewed, but it was like at the very end.

There was a song. And I was literally called the lady out. I was just like, it's fine. Last year you got to me a little sooner. This year, Mosvidol and UD, I get it. It's fine. Leakin' confidence, man. But I get it, man.

It's like in English primarily, it was like these community-owned clubs and everyone's like, feels apart of it. And then these Russian billionaires come in and are like, I've got this. And next thing you know, teams that were trash, overnight were just powerhouses, changing the landscape of European football forever.

And that's what's happening in high-life. I will start a little beef here, though, because last night I heard a lot from UD. Talked because like he was at the table right next to it. He was very careful. Almost any time he would draft somebody, championship expectations would be his like greeting. Yeah. And UD as someone who's been in the league a couple years, that roster's not winning no championship.

Whoa. You're roster. Frankie is not going to defend us from UD. I'm just saying, I don't think I get it. You come in with the first year you're excited, you wanna bring that heat culture, I get it. I'm not disrespecting it, I'm sure he is going to change the culture with the Reboete Renegades,

but not with the roster he put together. Is it Monica Pugby Olympian also a Timo? Yes, Monica Pugby. Is Moss Vidal gonna like insurek to ever win the championship? I don't know It's gotta go see him Pablo like what is your don is haslam Why did you put Chris Cody?

I know but he's on a for overthrowing the government what you want Chris to do with that? I've got I've got you D and the Mosda doll like in a wrestling ring throwing Chris against the world Highlight with Chris Cody. They put him in the what's it called Sesta? Sesta I thought you meant the court. Yeah, no, okay, like the it's a Sesta. Yeah, they put him in They fling him against the wall and then they catch him and then they fling him against the wall So how many new players are on your team because it sounds like you drafted largely the same team that finished We have we have six players on our team the first our top three guys same guys from last year same core Bottom three totally different we brought back jettin and ikeita who were on our team when we won the championship

So we have five of the six guys from our champion back to your roots back to our roots And we improved that six ball. We We had Joseph before. Now we have Bueno ripe for great nickname. There was not no Bueno last night. It was C. Bueno. We're working on it. We're working on the phrases. I am fascinated with that. That U.D. would greet everyone with championship expectations. And now it makes me think, is that what they say the heat like when you get traded to the heater? Like when Damien Lillard gets sent here, is that what they say at the heat like when you get traded to the heat

or you're like, when Damien Lillard gets sent here, is he gonna walk in and are they all gonna shake his hands to check his expectations? This is the cultions. This is like you de the robot they renegade, sorry. I mean that culture needs some remodeling. Okay. I'm not saying he can't.

I'm just saying that right. Dude, with not only finishing last place, I went to a highlight game last year. Johnny knew nothing over here. Yeah, I went to a highlight game last year. Johnny knows nothing over here. Yeah, I went to a highlight game last year and the Cesta cyclones were playing and it was late in the season and there were zero people from the show there.

I mean, the team that is proud, you abandoned your team, you stopped going at the end of the year. Did you see our record at that time? You know, that's how it's gonna go. You're the owner. If you don't perform, you think Mark Cuban's showing up when they're 10 and 58?

Yes, everybody not. So you're lashing out of their poor performance by not showing up and supporting them. It's a gackie. The team you chose. Play better. I love you. Play better.

Billy is my favorite part about him telling you D to get his shit in order and all that stuff. He is basically the Washington commanders and you deal with his Eric Bienamy and like, oh, look at this guy talking all this stuff. Like, what has he ever done? The Rough Roster, man, it's all the same. It's hard out here with the Rough Roster.

So as Chris Cody navigates, the changing landscape of Highly, I wanna turn to what, in fact, is happening in the changing landscape of college football. Lucy, I've been monitoring you all show, and I can just see you grinding your teeth all day about the ACC. I love college football so much because it's stupid, but it is reached a point where it's too stupid. It is too dumb.

These conferences are so dumb. Right now, we're like waiting to see if the ACC officially goes after Stanford and Cal. Nothing says ACC like Cal. And Atlantic has covered it. Stanford and you and C. Yeah. SMU also somehow has hitched their wagon to this too.

SMU and Virginia. SMU is like, you don't have to pay us for five years if you'll take us. And the ACC is like, great. Nothing says Atlantic coast. Like Palo Alto, Berkeley, and Dallas. It's too dumb. At first it was funny. Like when you see and you say,

I went to the Big Ten, that was quirky. That was weird. Now it's stupid. It's too dumb. These conferences need name changes. Yes. When are we gonna, This is my big question. What I want to find out is when are these names going to change?

Big one. I'm like the big one big conference. I'm waiting for that. Like they're all just going to do the same thing. Big one, I like that. The big one title game, geez. Instead of the eye, they have just one. So it's B1G.

Well, they already did definitely do it. Yeah, I think they can steal it. I like that we're now coming around to Chip Kelly praising Notre Dame for being independent and saying that all college football teams should just be separate than their Olympic sports and the Olympic sports can be in the conference. That is generally regionally based, but then football should break away. Muffet McGraw is calling for it as well. I feel like we're gonna see all of the big time leaders in the Olympic sports, quote unquote,

and the quote unquote non-revenue generating sports. Now I'll be like, all right, we need to say in this because this is ridiculous. No, absolutely. I talked to Jim Bayheim about this. I talked to Bob Huggins about this. No, absolutely. I talked to Jim Beheim about this. I talked to Bob Huggins about this. Like, there. Look at me, Louis.

Huggy Bear. They're pissed. I went to... Doesn't really have a say anymore. I went to West Virginia. Like, I want to say the year after they went to the final four. And it was the day they found out that they were leaving the Big East for...

Big 12, yeah. Big 12, and that's that. I've never seen a like a staff more pissed about, because they were like, Big East, we go to New York for the tournament, like you spend like a week in New York, you play at the garden, all this stuff. Now we have to go to Kansas City. They were irate, but like everyone's saying like football's doing this to us. Football is ruining everything,

ruining these conferences, ruining these rivalries. And so I agree with Chip Kelly, like separate the stuff, make your regular sports, play in a regular conference, so that we can have the ACC basketball, back biggies, basketball, the PAC 10, and all like, let's bring it back to the nation. Football should be the only one that goes through these

games, right? If you were playing the conference card. I agree with that. Yeah. I do like that Notre Dame as all of the great unbundling and re-bundling of college sports is happening, is basically just running a Patreon. Yeah.

Like you want our football games pay us directly. Subscribe. Well, Peacock, right? www.pavlo.co. NBC, there is one game on peacock a year now which i have in the past said i'm glad that my grandparents are deceased for not having to explain the login situation to them so yes but i mean i think it's incredibly silly especially for this a cc uh... addition right lucy because they're not going to be making

that much more money and any money that they'll get from reopening the ESPN deal and adding these teams, sounds like it's going to just be offset by the travel costs, because obviously traveling from the Bay Area to Miami or the Bay Area to Virginia or Dallas to wherever Pittsburgh, that's actually not that long of a flight, but it's ridiculous. It's not going to end up making anyone that much more money. And in the meantime, there's rumors that, I mean, Florida State, people have explicitly been like, we want to get out of the ACC, but they're so locked into this TV contract

that it's going to cost them tons of money to leave and potentially be not worth leaving because of how long the contract is for. So no one has actually decided they're going to do it yet. So it just makes very little sense and seems like something that the ACC is doing as a way to try to stay relevant. Yeah, like the big 12 did. But then the big 12 signed the TV deal

that kind of made them feel solid. And the ACC can't really do that. I'm curious to see if Stanford Cal joining this conference reopens that TV deal in a way that Florida State Clemson Miami you and see now have an avenue to leave. That's the risk you take with that and also a thing with travel costs is these small sports are not getting the revenue. Like it's going to be harder for them to fly all of their players out across the country. It's their effects just across the board, and they're all bad.

It's very silly, and I do wonder if the argument to break away, college football from the universities and the conference structure does. It's a non-starter because of the lingering question of whether or not these athletes will be classified as employees. Because how can you make that argument that they aren't? If you then create their own little separate ecosystem for them to play and for the universities

to make the most amount of money off of them versus the quote unquote non-revenue generation sports. Sorry about that. Pardon me. It was just. I just like how the person who is most responsible for the chaos of the ACC ACC the tummy ache in this conference Happens to be the guy that we all work for

Yeah, he screwed them but John skipper screwed the ACC We can always do all the jobs for doing that to you program. He does a great. It really is the best Mr. Lebitard They're a top best Mr. Levitard. They're Levitard.