The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 1: Wholesome and Disrespectful

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

Adnan Virk and David Samson join the show to celebrate baseball, and in honor of Opening Day, deliver their Top 5 Opening Scenes in Movie History. Then, Samson sticks around as the news breaks that Glen Taylor will NOT be selling his majority share in the Minnesota Timberwolves to Alex Rodriguez and Marc Lore. We get into all the ins and outs of ownership acquisition and guidelines. Plus, is Steph Curry's "nap time" celebration the most wholesome AND disrespectful celebration in basketball? And were the players in the NBA actually better 20 years ago? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. This is the Dan Lebatore Show with the StuGuts Podcast. It's Thursday, guys, so you know what that means. We got Adnan, we got Samson. It's the segment everybody loves to relish in. David Samson's got the Nothing Personal Tour. You can get tickets at davidsampsonpodcast.com and also listen to Nothing Personal with David Sampson.

Adnan Burke has Cinephile, executive produced by one Christopher Cody. All right guys, I'm not gonna do the Dan thing and filibuster a long time. I'm gonna jump right into you guys. Both have a top five list. Today's opening day, top five opening scenes. Who's more excited for opening day though

before we get to the list? Do you think Adnan or Samson? They're both baseball guys. All right. All right. Let's talk about baseball. Hey guys, who's more excited for opening day? I think we're both jacked up. I mean, listen, I'm going to be on with Mike Lowell, of course,

one of the David's old, I was going to say teammates, but one of his guys, obviously from the Marlins all those years. So to me, Mike Lowell, Chris Young for three hours talking baseball. And I don't know if David shares my scent, I'm sure he does. I wish there was more games at one o'clock Eastern. I'll be on from one till four. Two hours are just gonna be blathering

what you've done all off season at three oh five. Thank God Corbin Burns first pitch and we can watch the Baltimore Orioles. But we all know all the intrigue around the Dodgers and Otani, they're gonna be playing obviously in our showcase game, Bob Costas with the call. I can't wait for some actual baseball to be played. David?

It's too bad that there's the rain outs. It's such bad weather here in the Northeast that Philly, New York had to get rained out. It was going to be the first game. So many storylines about this season and everyone thinks there's a cloud because of Otani and Wander Franco just got put on the administrative list again. He's done until June 1st or sooner if he gets suspended forever for whatever happens to him. But the fact is once play ball,

once you get that first pitch, the storylines finally change and we get to see 162 chapters unveil themselves one at a time. And at the end, will it be Diamondbacks Rangers who will be the surprise team you just never know and that's why today's such a great day so many chapters so many chapters add that quick question for you when does

the shoot start for your 1920s era gangster movie I mean I always come out of the gate with the Al Capone suit opening day these guys know I'm wearing pinstripes listen I know you have better things to do than watching movie never but at one o'clock we're doing this 1930 style al Capone they opening day. These guys know I'm wearing pinstripes. Listen, I know you have better things to do than watching will be never, but at one o'clock we're doing this 1930 style. I'll send you the link. I'll post on social. It's Hitchcockian. We've we pulled all the stops opening day.

We're going to crush. I wear my ring on opening day adnan. It's sort of like a wedding or a bar mitzvah. I wear it during the world's you can press that button all night long, Lionel Richie. That is one that I love. But opening day, there's just something spectacular about it. What's your favorite opening day memory, David?

Well, I have so many memories. 18 opening days. Muhammad Ali. The rain delay in a dome ballpark. Listen, I'll get one before David, because he's got a lot more. Mark Burley, he made the greatest play ever made by a pitcher. That was an opening day. People forget, like, wait, that was the first game of the season.

That play was incredible. That flip play. Mark Burley still has not spoken to me since I traded him to Toronto. Not once. Not one time. But for the record, what? It's because I think he signed a deal in the offseason, right? And then you traded him in June. Do I get that right? No, you got it wrong. We traded him during the offseason after 2012, and we sent him to Toronto in that big trade. And I called him about it. And I text him every year on

his birthday and crickets. It's just a sea of blue. I'm in touch still with his wife. Look at this play. This he was such a great defensive pitcher. I'm in touch still with his wife. Look at this play. He was such a great defensive pitcher. The way he fielded his position, second only to Maddox in my career. It was awesome. Is it red? Is it, are the read receipts on?

Because Pablo Torre revealed the other day that he used to have like a relationship with Ed Hockley. And then at some point it's just like Ed Hockley has never responded to him again after a certain incident. And so I said, I thought it was just saying delivered. And he showed me his screen and says, nope, it says red, including what he had sent on the day I was talking to Pablo.

I was like, I just send them. By the way, I mean, nothing worse than a red receipt. I mean, if you're in Hockley, you gotta figure out how to get it done in your system. Come on, man. Is that- I wanna know what the number is for blues in a red receipt. I mean, if you're in Hockley, you got to figure out how to get it done in the system. Come on, man. Is that I want to know what the number is for blues in a row before it's stalking. What what is the room think is the number I three? No, no way. Too few. Don't answer that question. It has to be more. How many? Three. That's it. I'm not. And Hockley, three taxes respond. That's it. We're done. I'm not answeringley, three texts, he doesn't respond. That's it, we're done.

I'm not answering that question. You have to know that in this day and age, people get so many text messages. Not everyone's as crazy as I am where I go to bed without a red number every single night. Really? I do too. There are some people who are in the hundreds.

Yeah. Really? You guys have like addressed every single text message that's ever come throughout the day. I mean at times for the day I will just check if I've missed a text message. Like I'm like Samson is I cannot go to bed with I've seen JP Morosi's phone 500 text message a thousand emails. That's insane to me. There are people in this room right now who I have unread text from I'll find It's just at some point it's just a deluge and

The only thing I can do is just walk away. I Don't know who it is the shipping down there right now Roy is great at texting back Roy's always responding Cody Cody is the worst. He's your executive producer, man. There is worse than me. I'm not great. I know I'm not good, but I think Dan's worse. Levitard's worse. Dan's the worst because he will respond

at three in the morning. That's why he's the worst. He has three devices to respond from. That's what's funny. I love the email text from Dan. Yeah. All right, guys. Go back, make the point about Levitard.

He's got three different devices. He responds. Yeah. Yeah, he absolutely does. His tablet, his phone, his computer. Yeah, that's not that's not an exaggeration. Ladies and gentlemen. All right. I got a top five list that I think the room is gonna like.

All right. Top five opening scenes in honor of opening day. Nice. Number five, who can forget the opening scene of no country for old men? When Javier Bardem as the greatest villain of all time pulls out that cattle prod killer and you've got a cop who pulls him over, you realize you're about to watch greatness. Number four, basic instinct. Yes!

When Sharon Stone takes the ice pick to Johnny Baas while they're having sex, you're in a movie theater in a crowded theater in New York City thinking to yourself, wow, we may be onto something in this movie and it was only just beginning. Prime Sharon Stone. I was not expecting such steamy, scandalous,

sultry material. Bravo David Samson. I hope body heat makes an appearance as well. Prime Sharon Stone by the way. Yikes. Yes. Woo hoo. Number three. Dough Girls.

Jaws. The intensity of the opening scene when that swimmer, you realize, you know, it's a bad movie about sharks and people being eaten, but you have no way of knowing what the anxiety level is going to be for the entire movie. And it starts with that opening scene. Number two, Saving Private Ryan. There's been a lot of war movies over the years, but the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan. Great opening scene. There's been a lot of war movies over the years,

but the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan when they storm the beach, it's a longer scene than most and I'm not sure I've seen a better, there is no better opening scene of a war movie and it's the second best opening scene of any movie ever. I will say for the basic instinct fans out there as well, if you want a

companion piece, instead of Saving Private Ryan, you can watch Shaving Ryan's privates that's another film. Oh okay. Adnan and the number and the number keep it together boys that wasn't a war film by the way that's a different kind of movie but good the number one opening scene of all time and this is i assume it's number one opening scene of all time and this is I assume it's number one on your list to add then is Inglorious Basterds. Nailed it. I told him me in his ear I was like I don't know war movies I feel like I

have one better of an opening scene. Wow you didn't go to Billy huh? Which one? Inglorious Basterds classified as a war movie. So I don't necessarily view Inglorious Basterds as a war movie. So I don't necessarily view and Glorious Basterds as a war movie. When I'm picturing war movies, I'm thinking Platoon, Apocalypse Now. It's more of a chain of movies like that. The opening scene of and Glorious Basterds, when they're in the shed, the tension that you get,

he won the Oscar, that was, it was that scene that won him the Oscar, Christopher Waits. And I'm just thinking to myself, very few movies do you remember how you were feeling when you were watching a particular moment, the first time you ever saw it. And I remember as though it were yesterday

because I couldn't forward in my mind how it was going to end. How does that scene end? So powerful. Check out Inglourious Basterds, best opening scene ever. Add now, you've got three minutes. It's not Christopher Waits, it just Christoph Waltz but David is sorry thank you.

Listen that reveal in the basement incredible and I've never asked for a glass of milk since then and not thought of that movie it's pretty incredible. And then you have three minutes go. All right well fire through this to me I will mention the social network. Aaron's store can talk a thought right out of the gate You can tell this guy's a total prick. He's insulting where she's going to school. It sets the tone for the entire movie. It really is Sorkin at his best using his verbal linguistics. Number five, David's right. I'm not going to be able to top in Glorious Basterds when it comes to Tarantino, but I'll go with Reservoir

Dogs. The beginning of Tarantino's career really sets the tone for what his movies will be all about. Dialogue's funny, dialogue funny violent ridiculous just planning what like a vergence about dick dick dick dick dick dick dick dick how many dicks is that a lot what do you mean you don't tip I don't tip you don't tip people at McDonald's number four is train spotting Iggy Pop lust for life pounding out of the gate a guy running away out of a robbery I mean you and McGregor hits the ground running, Danny Boyle awesome. Number three, Malcolm X.

You've got a speech of Malcolm X, you've got the American flag being burned into an X intercut with Rodney King's beating. If you want my attention Spike Lee, you have it. That's about as audacious as it gets, Malcolm X at number three. Number two, an oldie but a goodie, Sunset Boulevard. The movie starts with the dead guy in a pool and it's his voice narrating what has happened to him. In 1960, it was powerful.

In 2024, it's powerful. It's a great movie. Look it up glorious once and I am big. I don't know how you do it, Cody. And number one, up. That's good, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good opening. That's worth nine minutes Roy. They tell his entire life story of 70 years. There's one shot which will break your heart at Goshenlin painting the nursery. The camera pans, head downcast miscarriage. I'm

like this is incredible. You tell an entire life story in nine minutes, you can't top Pixar, you can't top Up at number one. Yeah, you trippin' at that. No, he's so right here. All you have to do is think about that opening scene and you can get teary-eyed. That is spectacular. I couldn't agree more.

I can't believe I'm saying this. I'm going with Samson's List this week. Oh, wow. Come on, Eddie. God, that must hurt a mean. Look, man, like, you have some out there takes, but today you were as close to being right as I've ever heard you be on one of these movie segments.

I mean, at least, give me at least one of his five you weren't crazy about. Jaws, come on, give me one of those. I thought, see, I don't remember Jaws' opening scene. That's the problem. Exactly. So it's not as memorable. I'm surprised, as Roy pointed out,

no one had Belly when they're walking through the strip club and the black lights are on and then they start shooting everybody. I'm also surprised no one had Pulp Fiction. I love you, Money Bunny. Love that, Amanda Plummer. Opening scene of Blade. How about the Dark Knight?

Oh, Dark Knight. Oh, the Dark Knight was up there too. Dark Knight Rises. Adam Sandler, Billy Madison. Just remember It's not how you finish. It's how you start Happy opening to everybody Don libertard David Samson Because he was not He was not the fun substitute teacher who wheel out a TV and play a VHS tape of Armageddon in science class

He was the weird one who would eat an egg salad sandwich while clipping his toenails into the trash can and ranting about Ronald Reagan. Stugats! The guy kept talking about how his ass was smooth, smoother than a newborn's cheek. He wouldn't stop bragging about his bare buttocks to me. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the StuGats. The news breaks and the guests that we have on in the prior segment is perfect to talk

about the news. So we've asked David Sampson to stick around. He's been gracious enough to give us some more time because right at the end of that segment with Adnan, the news came out the Minnesota Timberwolves put out an official statement saying that Glenn Taylor is no longer selling the team due to the expiration of the option of Mark Laurie and Alex Rodriguez to acquire controlling interest in the Timberwolves and the Lynx. David, you saw this coming. I did. So let's take people back before he was having illegal practices in Minnesota,

before he bought a house and pretended he was from Minnesota. He agreed to buy the Timberwolves at a price of $1.5 billion in 2021, but it was something called a step transaction. A step transaction means you lock in the value today, but you pay over time. And there are deadlines contained within the purchase agreement that you have to make your next installment payment by a certain day.

And A-Rod has missed just about every deadline. And Glenn Taylor has been OK. He said, hey, we'll extend the deadline. Don't worry about it. But meanwhile, the price of basketball teams have skyrocketed since 2021. So the Timberwolves are no longer worth one point five. Let's say they're worth about two point five. So that means that Glenn Taylor feels terribly that he sold the team at one and a half when he could have sold it at

two and a half. But he was in a contract nothing he could do until a rod missed another deadline. And there were rumors that the Carlisle group pulled out. And then 10 minutes later, a rod had another deal with another private equity company. And it was all horse hockey. A rod has never been able to come up with the money to finish this transaction. So today, Glenn private equity company and it was all horse hockey. A-Rod has never been able to come up with the money to finish this transaction. So today, Glenn Taylor said,

Gunnug, guess what, Alex, the team's not for sale anymore. You violated the contract. What he also said in the release is, hey, if they want to come back and talk, we can keep talking about selling the team. But guess what? An official wait to see here on Levitard Show, courtesy of Nothing Personal, if the team is sold again by Glenn Taylor to A-Rod,

it won't be for 1.5. Now, before I get into further details here, I just need to know, why are you so ecstatic about this? You are full with glee at this point to break this down. Because I've been calling this for two years. Because I negotiated with A-Rod to buy the Marlins and he had everything except the money. And so it was always going to be an issue

and he wants to be an owner so badly that he pretended he wanted to be in Minnesota, but he never was able to hit a deadline. And finally, Glenn Taylor said, you know what? It's cool the array rod but money's way more important. What what was Mark Laurie's role if not to be the money Mark Laurie was brought in to be a percentage of the money, but he had given his allocation at the first go-around So he was never going to be part of the increased, uh, finishing the installments. It always had to be OPM, other people's money.

And a Rod's been out raising money for years and just has been unable to do it. And here's why a rod could have borrowed money and gotten investors at the $1.5 billion number, but but A-Rod always was trying to make a Beckham-like profit like Beckham did in Inter Miami. He was selling pieces of the team at numbers higher than 1.5 and people were like, hey, why do you get this incredible benefit of having such a low basis? And now it's all done. So David, one of the things that was part of this step transaction was I believe that

first payment that was made acquired 20% of the ownership state and then there were these other deadlines that was going to increase until the last one, which was end of March, was going to be the one that would have them as the majority owners of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Those prior payments that have been made, so does this just keep them as minority owners? Did it get a refund? How does that work? No, he is a minority owner. There's two ways it can go.

They can, and you have to look at the contract. So contracts can have two different provisions. One can be that if any installment payment is not made, then the entire contract is void and the money gets returned to the investor. In this case, A-Rod. It can be returned with a premium. They can maybe go to appraisal if the team is worth more since the first sale. So, Ben Taylor has to give A-Rod a little bit more for his money to get that money back. Or it can be that A-Rod stays as a limited

partner with the percentage he already owned because he made those first installments. So I don't know what the contract says, but it's one of those two things. This is a bizarre, this is one of several bizarre sales that have happened in the NBA recently. The Charlotte Hornets one, I think, is a lot more complex than people understand.

I know that Gabe Plotkin, who if that name sounds familiar from the movie Dumb Money or from the GameStop Crisis, it is, it's the one and the same. Same guy. But he's, it's a weird transaction where, even though he's the name and he's the one buying the team, the secondary investor partner in that actually gets to be the governor for the first five years

before it reverts over to Gabe Plotkin because he's the one that put the money up and then Gabe Plotkin has to pay him back over the five years if not, he's no longer the governor of the team. David, is it just me or are we having more and more of these sales that seem to be more complex like that as opposed to the straightforward? Hey, I want to buy your team. Here's the money. Let's go Well, listen the number one straightforward of all time was Steve Ballmer. Yeah cash

He went to the ATM took out a couple bill Sterling was gone Balmer was in it was a dream come true for Adam Silver Bill Sterling was gone, Balmer was in. It was a dream come true for Adam Silver. But the number of people in the world who can do transactions like that is very, very small. So when the value of the assets of these teams continues to increase, you need groups of people. Like Bruce Sherman has a group of 10 or 20 people helping him do the Marlins transaction.

When you look at what David Rubenstein just did with the Orioles, they listed all of the limited partners. You're cobbling together, cobbling. You're putting together 20 million pieces of 20 million each. You need a lot of money, which is why the NFL is looking into allowing sovereign fund money and basketball and baseball already do allow it

because you want to keep the value of teams increasing. To do that you have to find big chunks of change from people who don't want control and in the real world an individual doesn't want to give you 300 million dollars toward the purchase of a team and not be allowed in the clubhouse or not be allowed in an owners meeting or not be allowed to make a trade. So it's super hard to put these deals together now. It's funny because that's the point of buying a team, right? The point of buying a team is like, I want to play fantasy basketball for real.

And so the idea that people would invest the majority of the money and say, no, no, you go ahead and have fun with that. I just wanted to be part of the financial process. It's pretty much what Mark Cuban would have us believe happen in Dallas. He sold to the Adelsons and like the idea is like, no, no, but I still control every element of basketball ops. I answer to no one.

They just front money and do the business. It just doesn't make sense. And I don't think that's the case. I think you have to look to see who the governor is with Cuban and in the Mavericks, and I'll bet you a dollar the governor is not Mark Cuban anymore. It is the son of, I think her name was Miriam Edelson.

So what's interesting, George Steinbrenner once said something to me, play it, because it is true. But if it's true, you don't get to play it. I don't even know the rules. If it's true, you don't get to play it. I don't even know the rules. If it's true, does it contextualize? You called it on yourself. I got to hit it when you call it on yourself.

Also, the rule is if you're name dropping, right? You could have said... This is not a name drop because what he said was important and for him to say it, there's nothing more limiting than being my limited partner. And what that means is if you're not in the room where it happens, you're not in control, then really what you're doing,

you get to go to cocktail parties and say, yeah, I'm the owner of a team, that's whatever. But to really be the owner, you have to be the control person, and it's really hard to be the control person of a team. Now, David, one of the things, you mentioned the Carlisle Group earlier, that was the original team that, excuse me,

the original firm that A-Rod had secured financing through. Axios had come out with a report saying that they were out because some of the stuff in their portfolio ran afoul of the NBA guidelines, bylines, whatever, right? There's another report that came out that said, no, no, they weren't denied, they pulled out. Either way, I don't care what the truth is, I just do want to know, for a sports league, a major league sports, you know, like MLB, like the NBA. What would be the type of things

that would be in these rules and guidelines where someone else's portfolio would run afoul of? Well, funny, it used to be gambling. That was the big thing that they looked for, that if anyone was associated with any sort of casino or gambling, they were not eligible to be a limited partner. There is tremendous background checks that go in when you become a limited partner in baseball There is full background full check on who you are who you're associated with you've got to pass

Through the ownership committee the executive council then the full vote of the owners and Major League Baseball Say nothing of the Commissioner's office. So they're looking for any dealings. But let's be honest, Steve Cohen's background wasn't exactly perfect. He had been in the middle of some major suits, some major workplace issues, some major SEC violations. And guess what? If the price is right, Bob Barker, we're going to find a way to approve you. And so I believe

that Carlisle pulled out and it's not that the NBA turned them down because these leagues know now that when you find chunks of change, you really need to you need to take it because the commissioner who wants his job and wants to keep his job, wants to keep the value of the teams going up. And to do that, you need lots of people with lots of money. This interview with David Sampson is presented by LinkedIn jobs. Hey, how about that?

That's pretty good. It's a good job to try to figure out how to be a limited partner in a team. The interesting thing we'll be going forward with the T Wolves, because it's such a distraction, the whole sales process, you know, this, I mean, inside a locker room, and the T-Wills have a chance to actually make a deep playoff run here in the next few months. And I wonder whether the timing of this is Glenn Taylor

saying, hey, I wanna see if I can win a title right now. I don't want A-Rod to get the team at that old valuation, so I'm gonna announce this today and then take it from here. Yeah, that's the other part about this. When he agreed to sell, beyond the price being a lot lower, the temperals were a lot worse as a team. Now they're finally getting good, like hell no.

I'm holding onto this for a little bit longer to see where it goes. David Sampson, again, the Nothing Personal Tour starts in Philadelphia. Tickets are available, davidsampsonpodcast.com, and of course, listen to Nothing Personal. Thank you, David, for sticking around. Thank you of course listen to Nothing Personal. Thank you David for sticking around. Thank you.

Don Lebatard. And finally, abstaining from food for 16 to 18 hours a day could be key to treating a variety of health conditions like stabilizing blood sugar levels and increasing resistance to stress. Stugats. Mike, are you doing something like this right now? I lost a lot of weight doing intermittent fasting

and low carb so now I'm getting back to it. But how much in that six to eight hour window, how much can you eat, unlimited? If I could just eat unlimited, I'd do that. That'd be fun. For six to eight hours. You can't eat unlimited. Try me.

No, no, I mean. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGuardz. This is the worst first take question ever. Is it bad for the NBA if LeBron, Steph, and KD are in the play-in? Are you f***ing kidding? That's insane. Are you kidding? It's the opposite.

It's what they want. It's exactly what they want. Like, hey, watch these games. Jay Williams also said earlier on first take that high levellevel people in the NBA are questioning Steph Curry's leadership Because of Draymond because he started crying. That's why He started crying man. You start crying people start questioning your leadership Like I don't I don't want to lead her to cries. I want to leaders like I know what to do Right and what to do is drill this three and Jalen sucks mug and then kick the chair

They can't it's here and tell him to go to bed. The nap time celebration is simultaneously the most wholesome and most disrespectful celebration there is, right? That is not wholesome, man. It's wholesome because- Taking a nap. Roy, I'm gonna tell you why it's wholesome.

No, I'm a parent, you're a parent, a lot of us here are parents. You wouldn't feel bad about your child seeing like, what's that about? Like, Sam Cassell doing this, like, what's this daddy? Like, ah, nothing, don't worry about it. Well. Yeah, right?

But like, what's that? I was like, he's putting it in the bed. Oh, it's bedtime. Like, oh, that's cool. So explaining it to your children is why it's wholesome. That's what makes it wholesome. If you could show it to your kids and not have to have an awkward explanation It's wholesome now. It's disrespectful

Because he's calling them babies you said get these babies off me this baby's right a garbage You know Jalen sucks is a good defensive player Jalen sucks fancies himself as a lockdown defensive player, and I think he is But he ain't locking down no Steph Curry though. What about LeBron's thing? Is that disrespectful that like push the floor down and then the three on it's elaborate because it's all about me not disrespectful It is elaborate. That's the difference is is Steph is just just going to sleep where LeBron's pumping No, no, no, no, no, it's just yeah, but no it's Just go to bed. But no, it's not go to bed. It's like, it's bedtime, bitch. Like that's what he's saying.

That's why it's perfect, because it's veiled as wholesome, but it's actually disrespectful. That's actually kind of Steph Curry's whole thing. I have an idea for a new disrespectful celebration that is still kind of wholesome. Maybe not so wholesome now that I think about it, but I'll say it anyway.

This is what I want. I don't care what player, any player in the NBA, you can take this one. But you gotta be a killer out here. You can't be someone who just does it once and then goes back to your normal life as a role player. I need someone who's taking hearts. I need a dog.

I need a dog. I need someone who's taking hearts like Steph Curry took that heart last night. You hit the shot, you come back down the court, and then you mime, taking off your belt, folding it it wha wha wha shout abuse and then are you kidding and then and then you grab the snap The snap snap snap the snap like Robin Harrison house party. Yep It started as oh a wholesome celebration, and then you put the belt back on and you walk to the bench I like it. I think it's dope man. I think that cuz it lets everybody know who's daddy

Exactly is that wholesome? I'm your father It's wholesome in another my favorite one is James Harden cuz he's not talking he's just like his is like cookie Yeah, I'm cooking. Yeah, so that's like he's just talking about himself. Yeah, I'm cooking right now. I'm not disrespecting Dame times another that's the best I'm cooking right now, I'm not disrespecting anyone. I mean, dame time is perfect. Dame time is another, like, wholesome and disrespectful. It's wholesome and disrespectful. Because it's like, it just goes with the nickname. But that's about him, he's not talking about anyone else there. That's dame time, it's me.

No, no, no, no. What he's telling is like, it's about that time, right? But the problem is, the problem, the whole. Yeah, but for me to end you. For me to end you. Because here's the thing, here's the reason why Curry's is more disrespectful than dames because I can be at a Restaurant a club a bar a party and say alright guys. It's time to go We're closing it's time to go and that's not disrespectful because these are adults. I'm an adult, but when you say it's bedtime

I'm talking to a little kid. I'm talking to a baby. I'm putting you to sleep. Yeah, but I tuck in a little kid Hey, come here. Yes, right, but I'm talking to adults Chris You guys ever cocoon I do it for my dog Well when you're doing that to the Orlando Magic who are a young team like Jalen Suggs Who's a young defender who's probably gonna be all NBA as a defensive player this year. He's had a great year He's had an unbelievable year defensively and then you do that where just, good night. The one he hit against Dillon Brooks early this year

might be my favorite time he's ever done that. Even better than the one in the finals. The one in the finals is pretty cold because. It's really good. I'm gonna tell you why the one in the, okay, I take that back. Now I take that back. I was gonna say, the stakes were really high.

It's not just the stakes, Tony. It's because you realize, oh, he's not just talking about this game. He's saying this series is bedtime. That's, yeah, you're seizing your existence, Boston. It's a wrap, right? That's what made it super special. You know, this Rockets one, like, like the guys have to have another game

tomorrow or whatever, but it still was so, cause he was laughing. He laughed at Dylan Brooks and then put him to bed. Like, I mean, it's just like Damien Lillard going bye bye. Oh yeah. That was a good one. That was so good. Jordan have one of these was his, the, the shrug, but the shrug wasn't a consistent one. It was a singular moment in mid-game Jordan was almost like Tiger Woods Tiger Woods ripped it off of Michael J. Kobe the same thing

Yanis flexes that seems to be Yanis's move. Jimmy just falls down and lays down and puts his hands behind his head he just lays on the floor like I've been working too hard. Mello with the three. That's hitting a three though. That's a different story. We're looking for like, the ender. Like this is like the finishing move in Mortal Kombat. Takimbe Mutombo. That's a finger wag.

That's just a block. For a block. That's disrespectful. That is like. It's actually pretty polite. Yeah, it's like no. No. Wholesome. Not disrespectful. Not in the house of Mutombo. No, yeah, not in the house of Mutombo. It is like, it's actually pretty polite. Yeah, it's like no. Wholesome, not disrespectful.

Not in the house of Mutombo. No, yeah, not in the house of Mutombo. It's like Babu Bat. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Iverson didn't really have one. Iverson did, oh, the cupping of the ear was Iverson. And stepping over Tyron Lue. But that was a Singular.

No, I know, I'm not saying that was his thing. No, but the cupping of the ear, that was like, which was a wrestling thing. Iverson was the first one to be in the NBA to like run across and listen to the crowd. You know, I'll never forget the intro scene for NBA 2K2, right? Like it was because he was on the cover

and it was like all these different highlights and then the last thing was him cupping and the crowd going MVP, MVP. It's like, oh, I got goosebumps right now thinking about it, boy. 2K used to have some great int MVP, MVP. It's like, oh I got goosebumps right now thinking about it, boy. 2K used to have some great intros, man. I don't like Trey Youngs. Just, I'm cold, like he's acting like he's cold.

Wait, get on the table. The best was he hit what he thought was a game winner. We've got the 2K 2 intro, oh my God, yeah, look at that. Oh, gotcha. Oh, that cross over. Oh my God. Sean Mary with the little windmill. David Salva with the alley-oop. She'd come down.

Oh, that was Ray Allen, a game winner. Game time dunk. Stefan Marbury with the alley-oop. Russell Westbrook kind of has like a rock the baby type. Yes, that's a good one. It's kind of derivative though. Dirk Dunk. Yeah, Dirk Dunk from Steve Nash.

Reggie Miller, tough. Buzzer Beater right there. Oh, for the- Is that Bonzi? Audio audience, you guys are missing out on some great- Just go look up the NBA 2K2 intro, because this is spectacular.

Oh, Nash with the behind the back pass. This was a great editing work. Yeah, I was just going to say the graphics in the editing could not look more like the early 2000s either. But it's so cool. But it's awesome. Oh, but does it not have the MVP at the end? Oh, is that Sega?

Oh, maybe I messed up. Maybe it was a different one. Sega, wow. Hoops back in the day was fire. Oh, OK. Let's be honest. What's up? That hoops back in the day was fire.

You look at those names, you're like, wow. I'm going to tell you right now, Tony. Let's be honest. What's up? That hoops back in the day was fire. You look at those names, you're like, wow. I'm gonna tell you right now, Tony. It's gonna be the same when we look back at it in 20 years. Yes, first of all, like 20 years from now, we're gonna be talking about like, you know, I don't know, Trey Young Jr. Like, oh, he's nothing as good as his dad.

As good as his dad. Trey Young Jr. Yeah, it's gonna be something ridiculous like that. So is your dad. Right? Why would your dad? But the other thing about it, Tony, I'm gonna tell you, like, when you watch that, ridiculous like that. So is your dad. Why would your dad? But the other thing about it Tony, I'm going to tell you, like when you watch that, even

when you watch anything from like the early 2000s or whatever, we're only remembering the good parts. We're not remembering the wrestling matches. We're not remembering like the slow... Like 87-73. Oh man, at the end of regulation and we're going over time right like it just It's one of those things where? We have like a nostalgia

But we don't the nostalgia almost erases the reality of the day to day, right? It covers the sins of what the of what the era was But when you look at those those teams, right you look at the Spurs you look at the Lakers You look at the the Mavericks the sub look at those teams, right, you look at the Spurs, you look at the Lakers, you look at the Mavericks, the Sutle, like all those teams, I remember watching so vividly and it felt like there were so many stars across the league that now it feels like just there's kind of pockets. Really?

Yeah. I feel like now, back in the day, there were so many bad teams or teams that like legitimately, all right, you're not bad, but you have no shot at this. And I look now across the NBA and you know. Are you gonna play shot or no shot? They have a shot or not? Oh, shot or no shot.

That's pretty good. Also, thinking about that era, like my favorite series that I watched as a kid was the 2005, and they didn't even win it, the Heat didn't win, but the 2005 Eastern Conference Finals between the Pistons and the Heat that won seven games, game seven, Detroit Pistons won 88 to 82, come on. It was ugly.

Ugly basketball. It was rock-burning. And you look back and you look at that team as one of the best, you look at, I mean, Rashid Wallace was playing offense for them, you had Shaq and Dwayne Wade, and yet, I mean, truly dreadful scores. Oh man.

Pet rally basketball right there. But to my point, Tony, like when you go, look at Boston has Tatum and Brown. The Bucs have Giannis and Dane. The Knicks have Jalen Brunson, all right. The Cavs have Donovan Mitchell and Daris Garland and maybe Evan Mobley soon, right. Orlando.

Bunkero. Bunkero, right? Pacers. Halliburton. And Siakamuna. Miami, Jimmy and Bam. Philly, Embiid and Maxey, right? And now I'm deep in the conference

and if I go over to the west, Jokic, you've got Anthony Edwards. But if you're thinking back in this time you're talking about, those bad teams had a good player. No, they didn't, man. No, I'm gonna do this I'm gonna go back to what go back go back. Let's go back in the way. Do we want? Just name a season a random season. Oh, let's do three. Oh, let's do all four. Oh three. Oh four

Yeah, okay. Oh three. Oh four pulling it up. Right. Oh three. Oh four is the first year of LeBron Mello and Wade I like the worst team in the league. The worst team in the league was the Orlando Magic They didn't have anybody. I mean, who do they have? The Pistons have Cade Cunningham, so. That's not a thing. They have like Hedo Turcquilou or something? Who'd they have?

No, I think Hedo was with the Kings at that time. Yeah, Hedo was still with the Kings. Oh, young Hedo. Orlando in 2003, right? That's what we're asking to. Jameer Nelson. Jameer Nelson was never a star. He's a good player He was an all-star. He was a but he wasn't a star. You're right. No, like that's if he's their best player

That's a bad. Okay. Here we go. Their best players were The Clippers Cl Clippers. Second worst team. Lamar Odom, I think, was on that team. See, dude, every team had good players. No, Lamar Odom wasn't, but like, see, that's different. But then you're going to get to the guy. Come on. He was in number two.

Wasn't Katino Mowgli on that team? But he's not a star. Elton Brand? No, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not clipper. No, not not not no three. Oh, okay. It was there. Sure. Oh, okay I'm Brad was like that's like a sturdy place came on the Candyman Cory McGee Was nice I mean who Keon Dooling these guys are fun, but they weren't stars man It's not like Halliburton and and you know the guys that we're saying they're gonna carry the I could do this all day Just reading Chicago

How about Chicago this run out of time here and? They had who they have game. I'm all Crawford Young Jay crossover. I love this game