The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: A Complete 1-Edey

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

The Celtics may be dominant, but it's a player outside of Boston that has NOT been dominant that has Dan laughing today. Then, Lucy loves the way Tom Brady is coping with Giselle's reported pregnancy ...on his IG story. Plus, the Kelces continue to grab opportunities and the Cowboys put their players on display. Plus, who is truly "The King?" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:20 No purchase necessary. 21 plus ends November 15th, 2024. See rules at website for participating area and other important details sponsored by Diageo America's Inc. New York, New York. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats podcast. Stugats, I don't know if you've noticed early in this NBA season, something that I think is the funniest thing that I have seen on the court during the NBA season, something that I think is the funniest thing that I have seen on the court during the NBA season. It's early now and when you say the Celtics are disrespected,
Starting point is 00:01:52 they're undefeated again, they win last night against Milwaukee. If they don't get injured, it's going to be very hard to see much of anyone beating them. But the funniest thing that I've seen in the NBA this year is just how difficult it is for Zach Eady to stay on the court because he had four fouls in 13 minutes in one game and six fouls in 15 minutes in another game, which is what would happen if you or I were trying to defend the post. That many fouls that quickly,
Starting point is 00:02:26 where you're getting six fouls in 15 minutes is super odd. He's also getting his money's worth, I mean. He's just too slow to be out there. He is, you're right. And that's a weird team for him to join, just because if you're gonna build around Ja Morant, he's going to make his way up and down the court about seven times in the time it takes old
Starting point is 00:02:51 Nike Air Cement Sneakers, Zach Eady, to be able to run up and down the court. Is this like a modern day bruiser? Like, hey, the coach is like, hey, you're getting 13 minutes, use them. I would tell you back in the 90s, perhaps the late 80s, this guy would dominate Rick Smiths. I mean, I am telling you, he was, I mean, Mike Smiths was quite good.
Starting point is 00:03:12 He was, he was no one's dominating Rick Smiths. Even Ewing had trouble. No, occasionally. It was Reggie Miller, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis. It was never Rick Smith's I just can't think of a worse team for Zack Eadie to be on Then Memphis when you consider John Moran's strengths John Moran can literally make it up and down the court before Zack Eadie can make it down the floor once it's crazy because the like general NBA consensus when drafted was that and Then because he played really well in the preseason
Starting point is 00:03:44 I saw a lot of like NBA minds that I really respect go, you know what, maybe this will work. Offensively, he has more to his game than we thought. And now, in two games, it's a complete 180 all the way back to this guy can't play, he can't be on the floor. He's the first player since the merger to foul out in 15 minutes or less than his NBA debut.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Complete 180. Wow. What? That was better. That was good. It's a good one. It was good. Yeah. Lucy is about to catch a flight, Stu Gantz, but before it is that she leaves,
Starting point is 00:04:18 I wanted to include her on an Instagram story and a story in general that a lot of people are noticing and talking about, which is that Giselle Bündchen, recently divorced, Giselle Bündchen is evidently, the reports are, having now pregnant and about to have a baby with the Jiu Jitsu instructor that was a bit of an entanglement at the end of whatever Tom Brady's relationship status was with Giselle Bündchen at the
Starting point is 00:04:51 end of their marriage. This is an interesting story beyond the gossip elements, Stugatz, because it's really rare for Tom Brady to be in any marriage where he's not the biggest money earner because throughout this power couple's marriage Tom Brady was in a marriage where Giselle Bündchen, what she was doing with aging, harder to do than what Tom Brady was doing in sports with aging, which is maintaining beauty money as you age. And now at the end of the relationship that everybody was interested in, you have, you know, something that feels, if not tawdry, slightly scandalous. And what is Tom Brady doing on his Instagram stories?
Starting point is 00:05:44 I am not on Instagram, but I just saw that a lot of people were talking about whatever it is that Tom Brady is doing. I wouldn't call this situation scandalous, because like, hey, you're divorced, you want to go have a baby with your hot jujitsu instructor. Hell yeah, sister, you do that. That's feminism. But what I found funny about this situation,
Starting point is 00:06:04 people are like, Lucy, it's not funny. Well, guess what? My parents are divorced, so I can laugh about it. I have full- It's kinda like littering inside. Yeah, I have full right to do that. Tom Brady last night posted on his Instagram story like a sunset picture with the,
Starting point is 00:06:18 like you can put songs on your story of landslide. But he didn't even do the Fleetwood Mac version. He did the chicks version, which every time Iowl loses, I post that. I post the landslide by the chicks, cause I think it's really, really funny. Yeah, you're probably, if landslide is the song you're relating to, you're probably going through it
Starting point is 00:06:39 at the moment, so he was expressing himself online in a funny way. The quote was, oh mirror in the sky, what is love? What's he mean by that? By the way, everyone thinks that Landslide is about like a broken heart. That's not what that song's about. Stevie Nicks said that like when she was trying
Starting point is 00:06:58 to get into music, her parents were like, hey girl, this isn't gonna work out for you. We'll pay for you to go to school. And so she was like, well, it's not working out. I can't get anywhere. Like, I'm not gonna have success in the industry. So the song was about her realizing she had to give up on her dream as a musician. And that's what Landslide is about.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Little fun factoid for you there. To be clear, I don't believe Giselle Bunchen having a baby now with her jujitsu instructors in any way scandalous. I was referencing the fact, thank you Stugatz, I know you're a big advocate there, I was referencing the fact that there were a lot of reports invasive in their marriage about why it is it ended and if the jujitsu instructor had anything to do with it. The only reason I know that this jujitsu instructor exists is because of whatever it is that was happening
Starting point is 00:07:50 at the end of their marriage that the tabloids were reporting on. What do you make of this? You're feeling something in the realm of turmoil or heartbreak that Tom Brady is throwing out into the environment where he's just telling everybody, well, that news stings. Is that what you're making of it?
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't know, I think I just kind of find the song choice funny. And that was my whole sort of takeaway because that's my ironic sad song. Every time Iowa loses, I do a little rotation. Landslide by the Chicks or Bad Day, the song that they used to play when you got kicked off American Idol.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And that one really would leave a nice little mark. But yeah, I mean, I don't know the inner details of their relationship, and I'm sure he's sad, but I just thought the pose was funny. Okay, that's all you wanted to talk about. You just wanted to talk about whether or not. I like to gossip, Dan. It's fun and it's healthy.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I saw a TikTok therapist tell me how important gossip is, and they're never wrong. All right, put it on the pole, Juju. Is gossip healthy? Also video, do me a favor please and get me the graphic of Anthony Rizzo during the World Series being pelted by baseballs because I think this is one of the things in sports, Dugats,
Starting point is 00:09:03 that we are consistently looking past as something that really, really hurts in baseball, and we just sort of shrug our shoulders on. That as hard as pitchers are throwing these days, and I understand that people wear the equivalent of shin guards and elbow pads and everything else to make sure that when they get hit by baseballs, it's not too problematic.
Starting point is 00:09:26 But the graphic that they showed during the World Series last night. So good. Of Anthony Rizzo, he crowds the plate and he doesn't back off and it's gotta be hard not to flinch. I don't know if you've seen Mary Hart. Do you guys, do young people here know who Mary Hart is?
Starting point is 00:09:44 The former Entertainment Tonight anchor. She's got- Yes, I do know. If you've seen Mary Hart, do you guys, do young people here know who Mary Hart is? The former Entertainment Tonight anchor. She's got- Yes, I do know. Great seats right behind Home Play to Dodger games and she's the only one- Oh, I didn't know she was alive. She-
Starting point is 00:09:55 Lucy, no, that's $50. I'm not gonna pay you, I don't live here. So you didn't know who she is. $50. Wait, that was such a Lucy. I'm so happy she's alive, though. She was great on Entertainment Tonight. Yeah, and she used to throw her hat in the sky.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, I remember her. You're going to make it after all. That's Mary Tyler Moore. That's not Mary Hart. No, but I know Mary Hart. And I'm so happy she's alive. You owe $50. No, I'm not going to pay that.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Lucy, that's not one of the options, Lucy. Can I expense it? Lucy, no. That's the best new, no I'm not gonna pay that. Lucy, that's not one of the options, Lucy. Can I expense it? Lucy. You get it, you actually get it. Lucy, that's a $50 fine. All right, well I have a flight to catch. So it's so lovely to be here. Okay, then it's $51 if you tell me there's no cash.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Was Mary Tyler Moore the one with Bob Newhart or was that another person? That was not with Bob Newhart. Wasn't it a spinoff? I think that was right. And then Bob Newhart's show was just a dream, spoiler alert, right? Isn't that how that worked?
Starting point is 00:10:48 I don't think, I may have this wrong, I don't believe that Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart were connected, but maybe someone will correct me on that. No, that was a Dick Van Dyke show, right? I thought yeah, I thought it was Dick Van Dyke. She was married to Dick Van Dyke, and then sometimes he tripped over the ottoman.
Starting point is 00:11:00 What I was saying about Mary Hart is that she sits right behind home plate and she's the only person who doesn't flinch she's been doing it for so many years on foul balls that go flying back you will see everyone around her flinch and she's the only one who does not flinch but she might be dead she's not dead she is still alive maybe that's why she doesn't she wouldn't flinch if she were dead, that's correct. But Lucy, you're gonna go ahead and owe those $50.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But here's Anthony Rizzo getting pelted. Lucy, this is not how this works around here. Says who? Well, as your boss technically says me. Mary Hart looks good, good for her. Let's go ahead and show Anthony Rizzo's to gods this graphic of him just getting hit. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Oh my god. Even the graphic. He died? This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. They made like the cartoon Rizzo just crumble to the floor. Yes, if you're not watching this on YouTube, it's him being hit by the equivalent of 100 baseballs, I don't know how many times, I guess it's 194. Most in Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Since 2015. Good God. What is the record for most hit by pitch in the entire history of baseball? Pesio, right? I think so. It used to be, but 194 times since 2015, Stu got... I don't... I mean, look, I don't know how many people listening to this think about the daily wear
Starting point is 00:12:37 and tear that athletes endure. I know in baseball, I've told you a couple of different different times that the 162 game season traveling like that It's an insanity like it's not reasonable in any way and to be hit by a baseball 194 times in the last decade. Yeah, Mike. This is gonna be disappointing Craig Biggio is second all-time. He was hit 285 times Ue Jennings is number one with 287. Biggio just too short of the record. But Biggio does have the modern era record.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And Huey, I'm just gonna guess, leaned into a few. Huey, born in 1869, died in 1928. If I'm Biggio, I consider coming back for the record, right? Like Mr. 3000. This is something he can accomplish if he comes back. You're two away. Give him a month. A month of A's.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Exactly right. Don Baylor up there. Jason Kendall up there. Anthony Rizzo, eighth all time. Chase Utley, ninth. I have a random segue on the same topic, more or less. I met someone recently who, they asked me what I did, and I said I worked with you, Dan,
Starting point is 00:13:44 and they said that they didn't like you because you gave away your Craig Bezio Hall of Fame vote. Is that the case? I didn't think you gave away that vote. Are you scratching your knee or your dog? No, Willow was humping me. Actively happened, baby. But I fought through it, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I persevered, no one needs to know about that. Cut that, Jerbear, cut that from the record. I didn't think you took Craig Bisho's unanimous vote away. Or did you? I sold my Hall of Fame vote to Deadspin. I didn't actually sell it, didn't take any money. And I don't know, they ended up voting in 10 people who deserved to be in.
Starting point is 00:14:23 The voters, the readers of Deadspin did a good job, and I don't assume that they would not vote in Bishio. I'm confirming this, but I believe Bishio missed being a first ballot by one vote, and my dad didn't vote for him. And then the next year did, and he got in easily the next year. So is you being blamed for something, Greg did?
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yes, of course. Okay, that's kind of what I thought, because he sprung this on me, and I was like, oh yeah, I know Dan sold his ballot once, but I didn't associate it with Craig BGio in any way. One of the things, back in my day, is out beginning today, back in my day with Greg Cody, you mentioned Don Baylor, and I, one of my favorite stories involves,
Starting point is 00:15:03 like sports stories, involves Don Baylor and he stands in the box and he does lean over the plate and he was hugely intimidating and he wouldn't flinch. So he would get hit by a ton of pitches and then he would run to first base or jog and never show anybody that it hurt at all until the time he got hit by a Nolan Ryan fastball. and never show anybody that it hurt at all. Until the time he got hit by a Nolan Ryan fastball and then he jogs to first base and everyone's waiting
Starting point is 00:15:32 and he jogs to first base as if it doesn't hurt at all and then gets to first base and collapses. Being hit by 194 baseballs in a decade, Stu got, I gotta to imagine think about how in and this doesn't probably apply to the younger people but I'm sure that at this point Mike Billy Chris dads you're feeling aches and pains when you wake up in the morning you've gotten to that age have you not imagine being hit on the forearm on the wrist on the elbow a hundred ninety four times on the hip by by people coming out of the bullpen now and
Starting point is 00:16:10 a's reliever comes out of the bullpen throwing a hundred and four miles an hour imagine being paid sixty million dollars a year to do that though i mean jesus i'm not feeling bad for him that guy has made two hundred and twenty million dollars in his career. Hit me with 194. Where did you come up with he's getting $60 million a year? It was a bit of a stretch. It kind of helped the argument. Seventh inning stretch. My hip, to your point, Dan, my hip kind of pops when I get out of bed. Every morning.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I have to move my, go in a circle until I feel the pop. Bisgio was two votes shy, by the way. So Dan's and Greg's. Two. In a second. It was just one of those awkward things where I was put in a weird spot and I didn't know whether or not to be like, yeah, you know, I don't have anything to do
Starting point is 00:16:52 with Dan's choices with his Hall of Fame votes, please don't hold that against me, but also like, maybe he didn't even do that. So I can't really say, but I'm not a bad person. I don't think I did. I can be blamed for any number of things. I don't think that's one of them. I would have heard about it if I had kept Bisio out of the Hall of Fame. I'd certainly remember it
Starting point is 00:17:08 I wanted to ask you guys something else that has finally happened and I'm surprised it took this long to happen People are turning on the Omni presence of Jason Kelsey He is everywhere so much and the Kelsey's had a really good run of not annoying people but recently ESPN is now reportedly thinking of a late night show with Jason Kelsey and I don't know when and how or where it's most recently happened because they had a sustained run of nobody seemingly being annoyed with them and how much they were grabbing at and it seemed like everywhere people were finding them charming and endearing and delightful being introduced to the personality that Philadelphia had already come to love with Jason Kelsey
Starting point is 00:17:59 but they've taken so many media jobs that there is now a significant pushback on Jason Kelsey is everywhere. Do I need this much Jason Kelsey? I still like hearing from him everywhere, but where are you guys on this? I mean, people are always going to be contrarians, Dan. They did this with Tony Romo and they can never take Tony Romo away from me. At the end of a game, there is no one else I wanna hear saying, ah, damn it, than Tony Romo.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And they try to tell me, ugh, Tony Romo's so annoying, they don't even let him predict plays anymore, he's just weird and he makes weird noises. No, I love Tony Romo. Same thing with Jason Kelsey. People out there, they just wanna be different, they just wanna be contrarian, and they wanna say, ugh, enough of Jason Kelsey,
Starting point is 00:18:43 like I did with Jason Sudeikis at the WNBA finals. And sometimes people just do that. But it could be a case of Jason Kelsey is in too many places saying too many things. Like, if I had to give those guys advice, it would be stick to your podcast. Like you have your own- And come on, God Bless Football.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And come on, God Bless Football. Like you have your own platform, let yourselves be heard once a week right there and nowhere else. Oh, but they're being paid a great deal of money to make appearances. They've made so much money. All over the place, so.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I know, but just like, I don't know, for me, just stick to the podcast. Stop making money? Well, no, they've made a ton of money. They can go about it differently than most people. They don't have to grab in every single appearance, every single commercial, every single job that's offered to them like I would.
Starting point is 00:19:27 They could just come on once a week and just do their show and people would flock to it. That's horrific advice. Well, that's my advice. Don't do Monday night countdown. Don't do any of the commercials. But that's why people are getting annoyed. But Chunky is spicy.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And it's good to be spicy. Contractually, I think he's got a bunch of deals that obligate him not unlike Belichick to be everywhere because they grabbed it so much opportunity post retirement I would say nobody would dispute that the Kelsey's have been managed well, right that the Kelsey economy has been Managed well, that's not up for dispute. It can't be disputed, but they may have grabbed too much stuff. I expected this recoil to arrive earlier than it has. From the Kelsey standpoint though,
Starting point is 00:20:14 I feel like this is the way with a lot of players that once they're done playing, they still wanna be around the game of football and like this is a way for him to still be going to games, part of the game. Like he's still around football, which is obviously a game that he loves. So I don't begrudge any Kelsey for doing any media opportunity. And I think that their Q rating is probably still pretty high.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Late night television, how do we feel about that? That seems like an older form for ESPN to embrace. There aren't a whole lot of people getting into late night television right now. ESPN has never succeeded at late night television right now. ESPN has never succeeded at late night television that isn't SportsCenter. At one point I was talking with Eric Rydholm, the producer of Pardon the Interruption, about doing something coast to coast with Bill Simmons. They've done some stuff with Jay Moore, but late night television generally has not worked at ESPN. How do you feel about Jason Kelsey being stood up as a signature personality around,
Starting point is 00:21:07 these are the reports around which you would build a late night show. I mean, he's a center. That's like a lot of pressure to put on a guy, to host and carry a late night show, to be funny, to be entertaining. I don't know if it's a daily show or a weekly show. It's just a lot to ask.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I guess back to my original point, when you start doing so many other things, the thing that made you a lot to ask. And I guess back to my original point, when you start doing so many other things, the thing that made you popular starts to suffer. And so that's why I would tell Jason to Travis just to focus on that one thing while Travis is still playing. I agree. He probably can't block for shit now.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't think that's like necessarily an issue because we're leaving out a portion where his brother dates the biggest pop star in the entire world. So like, I don't think that their audience is fading away by any means. I think they're growing and growing, and now they're attracting a completely different audience than they did a year, two years ago,
Starting point is 00:21:56 because you have this whole new demographic of people. I just say like, whatever, I want everyone to make money and succeed and be happy, and why not strike while the iron's hot, you know? This is kind of like when LeBron came down here, and it made us go to eat say like, whatever, I want everyone to make money and succeed and be happy, and why not strike while the iron's hot, you know? This is kind of like when LeBron came down here, and it made us go to eat, like, he was like, ooh, LeBron, and then LeBron left us, and it was like, oh, like, Kelsey right now
Starting point is 00:22:13 has the Taylor Swift effect. If like LeBron leaving us, Taylor leaves them, do the Kelsey still? It's a terrible example. Yeah. It's a good example. Did you see, Jason Kelsey, when he was at the Taylor Swift concert, like a week ago
Starting point is 00:22:25 was like getting swarmed like a celebrity. Like everybody was just running after Jason. He just went to buy like merch and everyone was so excited to see Jason. Yeah. This wouldn't have happened like two years ago. Why would you not take advantage? When Lucy is saying that the audience continues to grow,
Starting point is 00:22:39 I don't believe it is possible in 2024 to have your audience grow without a substantive portion of it becoming polarized by that growth. I don't think you're allowed in 2024 to just get universal applause on anything. I don't think a person exists that just gets everyone anymore applauding for them all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:00 If the Kelseys are gonna get more and more audience acquisition, inevitably they're going to get more and more audience acquisition, inevitably, they're going to get some blowback and be less popular in spaces than they've ever been. And that's already happened. Like there's a whole group of men out there that are furious that there's a woman at football games on camera. Like we've already sort of seen that blowback, but like they have a big enough audience. They make enough money. Their podcast is one of the biggest podcasts in the world. I honestly think they're pretty chill and they're fine. And you never know what a post football career is gonna look like for somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Something could happen and Jason couldn't be on TV anymore or whatever. So why not capitalize on it now when you know that you're gonna make a lot of money and you can set yourself for life? I wanted to ask you guys something else that I discussed with Mina Kimes and Pablo Torre on Pablo Torre Finds Out Ladies and gentlemen the NBA is finally back Thank goodness and a new season means new ways to get into the action of DraftKings Sportsbook an official sports betting partner of the NBA Who's draining threes from beyond the arc?
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Starting point is 00:25:11 What Stu gots now you are yeah The feels good. This is the done libertar show with a Stu gots Did I read this report correctly that Mina and Dan Arlovsky are doing something with the Simpsons? Did I I just saw something in passing and I didn't read any of the details. Yes, they announced it during the game There's like a Simpsons NFL broadcast that's gonna happen. Wow So go great with Toy Story It was super glitchy Test was like sorry again. You're just looking at me and because the game has stopped working It was ambitious. Oh, it's ambitious. It was it went okay
Starting point is 00:26:00 That was a good test. It was ambitious. Oh, it's ambitious. It went okay. There were hiccups, but I think we all expected that. And now they're doing it with another. You're looking live at me only. And now they're gonna do it with the Simpsons. So that's kinda cool.
Starting point is 00:26:16 By the way, just one last thing on the Kelseys. So Jason Kelse made $81 million in his 12 year NFL career. He's already signed a three year, $100 million contract deal with Wondery. Why would he turn down more money when he's easily making more than he made in his entire career in the NFL? That deal was for the podcast though, right?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, but that's just one aspect of it. If you could do the podcast once a week or whatever it is and make $100 million. You're saying grab all the money while you can. Yeah, because he beat his body for 12 years to get to this point. Now he can cash in on all the work that he did. Granted, it's because of the popularity of the podcast
Starting point is 00:26:48 with his brother and who his brother's dating, but why not cash in? It's a Cowboys-Bangles Monday night football game, and I think it's brilliant, because making the Cowboys-Simpsons characters is the only way you will get me to watch the Cowboys again this season. Thank you for bringing up the Cowboys, because that's what we were talking about with Mina
Starting point is 00:27:07 on Pablo Torre Finds Out and I'm curious what your thoughts are because Mina and I don't very often have big disagreement but we did on this and the story was that the Cowboys do something that no other team in the league does which is where their players are working out or in private spaces they do fan and customer tours that are invasive to the players that make more than ten million dollars a year because cowboy fans have an unusual access to the spaces that are usually private for the Cowboys and some former Cowboys were saying that it gets in the way of winning that it is a distraction and the
Starting point is 00:27:56 thing that mean and I were disagreeing about is I don't believe in the way that Jerry does these transactions where where winning is secondary, that business is ever a distraction, because business is what it is that Jerry does, and business is booming in Dallas, even if the product on the field isn't particularly relevant, because of how it is that he ends up doing business.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And I wanted to discuss this with you guys because some former Cowboys are saying that stuff like that gets in the way of winning and I don't believe that it does I believe Jerry will find wherever it is that he can find dollars around the circus tent and has done this for 30 years he does not care what the attention looks like as long as there is attention and I'm about to give you a pretty shocking Stat I believe about the business of the Dallas Cowboys I think that the story about the tours made me think of watching the Dallas Cowboys cheerleader series on Netflix Because there was a really uncomfortable scene where there was a tour going through like their locker room and the whole thing just was like very
Starting point is 00:29:08 Very invasive feeling and was just honestly pretty bizarre. I'm with you on like the the business is the business right like the business is making money but I could totally see how a player would not like working in that environment would not like working out in that environment would feel like they're constantly being surveilled or constantly being bothered by people that aren't on the team and that is sort of like a sacred place for teammates to be together and to like work together and how it just awkward it would feel and so yeah i could say i could see how that would bother a player i believe it's dehumanizing it's not the part that
Starting point is 00:29:37 i was disagreeing with me now on in fact i would say that it's not a giant stretch to uh... take all of that profit off of intimate spaces where the players are. It's not a big leap from that to how Donald Sterling treated his players where he'd invite fans and friends in the locker room and be like, look at all these beautiful black bodies and treat it as like a private VIP affair. But the part that Jerry always gets rewarded on, and I don't know how you can argue that this is bad for business, I believe the Dallas Cowboys are worth $3 billion more
Starting point is 00:30:13 than any other sports franchise. They are, confirmed. $11 billion. You guys remember that video that Jamie Foxx let out? That was wild. Do you not know what I'm talking about? The one from the hospital or somewhere else? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's a Jerry Jones video. He's at Cowboys practice, and he overhears Jerry Jones talking about a player. Oh boy. Oh, you haven't heard it? We're gonna, I'll grab that video for you. Okay, thank you, guys. I will grab that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 This is news to me, I'm sorry. It's your job. You wanted to invoke Donald Sterling, okay. Jerry Jones grab that interview. This is news to me, I'm sorry. I'm chopped. Does he want her to invoke Donald Sterling? Okay. Well, no, Jerry Jones is an old-timey, from-another-time oil man who doesn't much care about what the media reports on things, as long as it brings attention to his franchise, or where it is that he leaves his players or employees
Starting point is 00:31:02 feeling powerless or dehumanized. His way of doing business is spectacularly NFL, Stu Gotts. And he doesn't do a very good job of hiding the overt greed in it and how much, or how little he cares about how you receive how he decides to do entertainment. He won the Super Bowls in the 90s with Michael Irvin and Troy Aikman.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So like he's kind of checked that. I know he wants to win another one, right? But I think Jerry truly cares about being the most valuable NFL team in the league by $3 billion more than he cares about winning. If you're asking- That is winning to him. That's winning to him, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Winning at business is winning to Jerry Jones. If you're asking, would that get in the way of winning? I feel like that's a bunch of players who didn't win who are making excuses as to why they didn't win. I don't wanna hear it because he's taken a few people throughout the facility and they're at practice and they're doing this. It's invasive, Stuart. I know it's invasive,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but it doesn't get in the way of winning. Come on, that's ridiculous. Is it? We've had people watch us podcast. And it's super hard. It gets in the way. It's hard to focus. It's hard for Chris to read when people are in the room. This is practice, not a game.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Like they're coming to practice. They're walking through the facility. Like how does that affect, how does that impact winning and losing? It's a lot. We have to tell them, don't look at Dan. There's just, you gotta give everyone all the rules. Like how does that affect, how does that impact winning and losing? It's a lot. We have to tell them don't look at Dan. There's just, you gotta give everyone all the rules. Like it's.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Jamie Foxx, Mike, I don't know what that video is. Can you give me the context before it is that we play it? Yeah, let's give videos some time to rip the video. But the origins where Jamie Foxx was at a Dallas Cowboys practice, maybe he was enjoying this incredible, this incredible experience that Jerry Jones is offering his customer base. But he was there standing next to Jerry Jones
Starting point is 00:32:53 at practice out in the stands, and Jerry Jones was rattling off stats, and then it ends with a surprising thing that is out there for a little bit before Jamie Foxx decides to cut off the live broadcast. Measurement you don't usually hear. Yeah. And look, these front offices, is out there for a little bit before Jamie Foxx decides to cut off the live broadcast. Measurement you don't usually hear. And look, these front offices, they think about everything
Starting point is 00:33:10 when they're talent evaluating. They go through every, it probably is on an actual scouting report. It's not an Arnold Palmer situation, is it? Yeah, that's a difficult one to say. Arnold Palmer, yeah. What's his nickname? Does he have a golden bear type nickname, Arnold? That's a difficult one to say I What's his nickname does he have a golden bear type nickname Arnold that's a good question Arnie's army was the nickname of his fan base
Starting point is 00:33:30 I want to hear this Jamie Foxx. It is a game of inches. Thank you. I don't think I want to hear it anymore Wasn't he the king? He is the king. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but there's so many Kings Elvis is the king. Yeah, when I say the golden bear, you know who I'm talking about when I say the king There's pushback. I don't think of Palmer is the king. Yeah when I say the golden bear, you know who I'm talking about when I say the king There's pushback. I don't think of Palmer is the king. When was that Elvis was that popularized at all? I don't think that that's something Elvis is the king LeBron is the king Elvis is the king How many other kings are there's one king? I'm the bronze King James not the king. I've never heard Arnold Palmer slow it down. I said as the king. That's the first time I'm hearing that as a nickname.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Is that, you're our golf expert. Is that a thing? Is that something? I mean, the king is for Elvis. It's not for Orny. I love you, Arnold, but it's not. Like that's reserved for one person, and it's Elvis Presley.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But we've also shortened it. He's not, he wasn't nicknamed the king. He was the king of rock and roll Arnold Palmer was no The blue suede shoes the Rosen Oh But there is a Michael Jackson was called the king of pop and no one called him the king It was always King of pop curious, you know Palmer Jack and Gary player were known as the big three in the 1960s Mm-hmm. I hear now we have multiple Big Threes. Which one was the actual Big Three?
Starting point is 00:34:47 ["White Guys"] ["White, white, white, white, white"] I have never heard Palmer referred to as the king, but let's go ahead and play this Jamie Foxx video. I don't know why it is that I thought it was video from the hospital with Jamie Foxx. Did you watch golf in the 60s? I did not, but I just assumed that those
Starting point is 00:35:10 were incredibly white guys who were the big three. Let's hear from Jamie Foxx. Exercise patients here because it is practice. There's a lot of audio there. Let's listen closely. I don't know if they edited the sound on the front end out because this. Seems dangerous.
Starting point is 00:35:24 This audio pops up on the front end out because this uh seems dangerous this audio pops up on the back end nine and three inch head Eight and a half inch dick Windy well, I heard that clear Yeah Jamie Foxx. I don't think that Jerry Jones knew he was on video there I'm not sure how much Jerry Jones given his general soaked in power situation cares about what anyone over here's That he is saying because he has been powerful for a long time soaked in power situation cares about what anyone overhears that he is saying because he has been powerful
Starting point is 00:36:08 for a long time. He's had some scandals that just sort of vanished that would end other owners and bother other owners. But when your franchise, I'm gonna say it again, because I think it's a shocking stat. His franchise is worth three billion dollars more than any other franchise. Like there is, I don't know, maybe internationally
Starting point is 00:36:30 there are some soccer clubs that are- Man, he is banking on those tours. So many tours. Wow, so many tours. In fairness to Jerry Jones, it's only what it sounds like and he could have been cut off in the middle of saying something, I don't know, he could have been saying like discus or something.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Unlikely what is the most expensive or most valuable franchise overseas in soccer like what United or Real Madrid is there what's their tour schedule like worth 11 billion dollars? Yeah yeah I think it's up there I think they're worth more than I think Maine United is worth more than the Cowboys. I legitimately did not think there was such a thing as an NFL franchise or any franchise worth three billion dollars more than any other franchise. Mike, Manchester United is six billion dollars right now. Six billion.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I remember reading when I was researching for Stugatz's book that the Cowboys were the most highly valued sports club or franchise in the entire world so that's probably still true according to Forbes 2023 rankings it's Cowboys Yankees Warriors Patriots Rams Giants Bears Raiders Dicks Jets Real Madrid commanders what eight and a half inches it sounded like said next Jessica I didn't know you didn't research happening for Stugatz't know you did research
Starting point is 00:37:45 for Stugatz's book. You did research for Stugatz's book? Someone had to do it, Dan. I mean, I don't even remember what I wrote at this point. I guess I gotta buy the book. You're welcome. Man U, 49ers, Lakers, Cocks, Eagles, Dolphins, Barcelona, Texans, Liverpool, Broncos, Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Dolphins? Of Seahawks. What'd you hear? This is on me. We can agree he was the king of ice tea lemonade at least. That I'd give you. I'm pretty sure he was the king Dan. I don't think I made that up. I'm not saying you made it up. I'm just telling you that that's not something that I've ever heard before. In my life. If you watched Columbo or Magnum P.I. or Matlock
Starting point is 00:38:27 or Murder, she wrote, you would know. I don't believe that before now, the majority of our audience has ever heard that Arnold Palmer. You're gonna wanna slow that one down. It's the king. Bayern, Munich, Dodgers, Falcons, Vikings, Ravens, Steelers, Browns Browns testicles Red Sox Titans
Starting point is 00:38:47 Colts Chiefs Paris Saint-Germain Cutting like the remainder of this Celtics Jaguars, so then just Ferrari oh That's gonna go up next year with Lewis Hamilton Wait a minute. I'm pretty sure What a testicle snuck in there, I'm not totally sure man much of they were It may have just been me giddy and delirious at the end of a show
Starting point is 00:39:19 I think there were some things you threw in there subliminally that did not belong in there. Hmm. False. Chris told the governor of Minnesota that he wants to watch more porn. No, I just, Dan brought up porn, as you'll hear in the post-game show for most people. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Good tease by me. Yeah, that is Jessica referencing something that has not yet run on the show. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They're all gonna listen. But stay tuned. That's also run live. Like, what are we doing? Stay tuned, that's actually a great tease. Chris Cody, I cannot tell you how bad you were today. It's inside though. Howdy, loyal audience, it's Mike Ryan,
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