The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: A Rather Melancholy Footnote (feat. Jessica Smetana & Jemele Hill)

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

"No, it's not wrong." Jessica joins the show to discuss Timothée Chalamet stepping in it, the ACC Tournament, and A'ja Wilson's boyfriend. Then, Jemele stops by to lend her expert opinion on the Magic City controversy, as someone who, admittedly, has spent a lot of her money there. And both of them help Dan settle on which songs belong in the "oldies" category. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is a tweet from Jorge Sedano in June of 2017. Yo, how many times I got to tell you? According to scouting reports, Atabio is said to project to be a poor man's Tristan Thompson. and now he is the record or he's not even the record holder that's Wilt is at a hundred this isn't this isn't an unusual thing second place usually isn't

second place by 17 points isn't usually celebrated this way or making people in Los Angeles sad of the Lakers last night there was a fun basketball night last night if you're watching Boston and the Spurs Wembe goes crazy against Boston

Jalen Brown is ejected in a way that you really shouldn't be ejecting him. I mean, he got pushed. Like, he obviously got pushed, and they called the other way. Like, he went out of bounds. He went nuts. The other guy gave him a tech. But it was shocking, though.

The Lakers, Juju told us recently that the Lakers stink with a capital H. And they don't actually stink. They're about 10 games over 500, and they're a little bit confusing. They do stink at defense. But they beat Minnesota last night. And during the game, the, public address announcer for the Lakers announced Bam Otabio's record-setting night this way. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. This evening, a rather melancholy footnote in NBA history

occurred. Miami beat Washington 150, 129, and they gained Miami-forward Banerabio scored 83 points. Get the hell out of here. Losers. That's shocking. That's real? A rather melancholy footnote is how BAM's nice. He scores 83 points. Melancholy footnote.

That's crazy. Bam said after the game that that's the best he's ever felt after a game, and it is a rather melancholy footnote in Los Angeles. That's shocking. He's shit, man. Just the quickest thing on how this could possibly be melancholy, because Bama at Abio is a guy who went Kentucky would stay late after practice and John Kalapari said that he would he would go up to him and be like,

why are you still here in the gym? And what Ban would do is just turn his phone where his phone background was the trailer that he and his mom grew up in. And when he got his first big contract, he bought his mom a house. She was there last night. Asia Wilson was there last night, a fellow record holder. This was anything but melancholy. What a cool moment for them to shit on. Kobe didn't have the record. He was second. A rather melancholy footnote. Jessica joins us now and we are going to change the subject matter around here because we've been talking about this BAM thing for three hours. But before we get into the meet of some sports topics, Zaslo is out on Quentin Tarantino now. Well, no, not out. No, not out. But I do have thoughts on...

Well, I mean, I say you're out because you won't watch Django Unchained. You won't watch it again. That's out. We represented his feelings accurately. So Quentin Tarantino has been getting for years gets like very famously a long time ago Spike Lee took him to task on his use of the N-word in his movies

and he writes the N-word into his script many, many times. Says it himself when he puts himself in his movies is very comfortable as a white man using that word and has defended it at every turn. I mean that scene like his scene in Pulp Fiction which is my favorite movie. his scene in Pulp Fiction is hilarious and also really over the top with the use of the N-word, okay?

As are some scenes in a lot of his movies. I will tell you that Django Unchained, which obviously has the N-Wir a lot and is like, you know, we're dealing with slavery here and has some rough scenes. He's my favorite director. His movies are my favorite, but I will tell you, I've seen Django Unchained, it's a really good movie. I've never watched it again. Like every time that I pass by it on television and I'll see it for a few minutes like, it's always kind of a tough watch, you know, and not just because of the N-word. Like, it's a little bit rough to watch.

So the most recent, I guess, actress to come out and be critical of Quentin Tarantino. Here is Rosanna Arquette, who worked with him in Pulp Fiction, all right? And so Rosanna Arquette, you'll remember, was Eric Stoltz. He was the drug dealer. She was his girlfriend, all right? and very famously in the scene with the O'D adrenaline shot with Uma Thurman. And Rosanna Arquette, in a magazine piece about her career, talked about Quentin Tarantino, saying, quote, personally, I'm over the use of the N word, I hate it.

I cannot stand that Tarantino has been given a hall pass. It's not art. It's just racist and creepy. And so obviously, Quentin Tarantino is going to respond to that. And he writes, Dear Rosanna, I hope the public. you're getting from 132 different media outlets writing your name and printing your picture was worth disrespecting me.

And a film, I remember quite clearly, you were thrilled to be a part of. Do you feel this way now? Very possibly. But after I gave you a job and you took the money to trash it for what I suspect as very cynical reasons, shows a decided lack of class, no less honor.

They're supposed to be an esprit decor between artistic colleagues, but it would appear the objective was accomplished. Congratulations, Q. Jessica's smiling because of how you just pronounced spree the core. I can see it on her face. Dan, that's not fair. Is it wrong, though?

It might not be fair. No, it's not wrong. What are your thoughts on everything that he said there, Jessica? I mean, I think she's entitled to change her opinion over the span of, what, 30 years since the movie came out. And I think that her criticism, like you mentioned, is something that has been said many, many times about him. and creepy and racist is, yeah, I mean, that's certainly things that people have called him before. Not just creepy and racist, also affiliated with Harvey Weinstein in a way that hasn't blown back on him the way you think it might. And look, man, his arrogance is earned. He makes great films, but he carries himself as if he knows that he makes great films.

And he's untouchable because he's doing something there that no one else is doing. No one else is comfortable doing that in 2026. No white man is comfortable doing that. There's been a lot of controversy this week regarding the movies, Dan. I know that the Oscars are coming up this weekend. There's been several just bad PR moments. So I would like to take this time to transition to one of my favorite controversies of the week, which was something Timothy Shalame said in an interview with Matthew McConaughey.

Have you seen any of the blowback to, Timmy Shalomey's comments to Matthew McConaughey. I think we might have, DeVroi, do we have the clip? Yes, we do. And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though it's like, no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there. I just lost 14 cents in viewership.

But, damn, I just took shots for no reason. That's not a shot. I hear what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Sorry. tried to save it there with the little operatic note at the end, Dan. But this clip went platinum viral on the internet, and the opera and ballet communities were so mad

because in this clip, it appears as though out of nowhere Timothy Shalomey is taking a shot at ballet and opera for not being relevant in the mainstream. And so he has been just... People are very, very upset at Timothy Shalame. So I was like, hmm, that's interesting. I would consider myself a fan of Timothy Shalame. I'm going to watch this interview. I would also consider myself a fan of Matthew McConaughey

and especially the film Interstellar, which is what they spent a lot of this interview talking about, Dan. So I watched this entire hour-long interview with Timothy Shalameh. And, man, it's not that it got taken out of context, but it's almost as if, like, no one who reacted to it cared at all, why he brought up ballet,

in opera. And what he was trying to say, what they were talking about, was that the younger generation, apparently directors are making films where there's a shorter first act and they want more action sequences earlier in the films to capture people's attention. And he was sort of talking about that and they were kind of talking back and forth about that. And he was saying that he doesn't, he wants younger people to go to the movies and he doesn't want the movies to become like ballet and opera where they're not part of the mainstream and you have to beg people to go see your movies because they're only watching like short form videos and things that capture their attention. So the other, you know, I understand he probably shouldn't use that as an example because it

was kind of mean and dismissive. But the other side of that Dan is like, I don't watch the ballet or the opera. So I can't sit here and be like, well, he's an asshole and he's wrong because I would have to agree. It's not like a mainstream form of art anymore like it used to be. But based on what he said there to it. Salome, like, do we take into consideration at all that opera sucks? No, it's not surprising

that's a good point. Okay, that was way meaner than anything. It's not surprising that people who love opera and ballet would be defensive and protective of opera and ballet. The more interesting thing to me is, doesn't Chalemay, in these times that we're in, where no one gets to be

universally popular and everyone is polarizing, he never has bad public moments, does he? He's a bit, it almost feels like overexposed here, right? Jess, where it's like, Like he's been talking and talking and talking and talking and was eventually bound to put his foot in his mouth. I mean, he's doing podcasts about putting his foot in his mouth about opera? What was going to say?

1837? But you're proving my point, which is that like if this is the worst thing that's been said, if this is the big controversy, you're doing a pretty good job. If when you're going on podcast with LeBron and Steve Nash and breaking down ball or Carmelo and doing that as well, like he is everywhere right now. And this wasn't really intended to be a shot at the art form. It was like, hey, I don't want to have to put the whole team on my back to get everybody to the movies. We need to be able to create stuff that gets kids to the movies, right, Jess? I think it's also, it kind of proves this point because I think it's way easier for people to see the 30-second clip and have a really strong reaction to it because it was mean and dismissive. And he shouldn't have said, like, no one cares about this.

I would argue that, like, fewer people care about ballet and opera than, you know, cinema and film and movies. and that was kind of what his point was. But it's a lot harder to, like, sit down and watch a full hour-long interview and actually get a sense for what the context was, which I really, I think it kind of proves this point that, like, our attention spans kind of suck right now. And so, like, people just want to watch short videos and get outraged by them without taking the time to actually read what the conversation was about in the first place. Mike Ryan came in here crushed today because Stanford lost to pit in the ACC tournament,

which is now begun on both sides, women and men. Your thoughts, the most interesting things you've seen so far, not that there have been that many as March Madness gets ready to start trembling. First of all, the ACC tournament is so funny, Dan, because only three teams don't make the ACC tournament because the ACC is too big for every team to make it now. And yes, Notre Dame was one of those teams. I don't know how Pitt made it. Well, I do know because they beat Notre Dame like two weeks ago. And Pitt is a terrible basketball team. But good for them.

Got a win. But the most interesting thing happened during the game, which was that some random fan was loudly and obnoxiously singing the Goo Goo Dolls during the game. Tell to three in the first time. Al was minor second. Corey hits the free throw despite the presence of the really loud guys singing the goo Goo Goo Dolls behind us. Not sure how that didn't grow up. This is some list to be on Duke, Duke, Duke, freshman 30. Mike loves a Corey.

That's all Mike. Mike was just staring at a Corey and talking about the 730 point games. Yeah, I regret not having the sound on for that game as I was dialed into it just standing up to a second TV because let's say what needs to be said, Goo Goo Dolls, Iris, banger. That's great. Great song. More of that. More people randomly singing at the 12 o'clock tip-off games of conference tournaments. It's a great guitar riff, you know, the bridge. And Zaz, thank you for your bravery. Somebody with the guts to say, the ballet and opera.

Not their thing. Oldies? That's definitely an oldie. Ancient. Not even oldies. Ancient. Ancient. So Gougu dolls.

So you guys are putting out of Gugu dolls, Jay-Z, you're putting them in the Frank Sinatra Krooners class. Yes? The big band class. If those are oldies, what are songs from the 1950s? Older? Dinosaurus. Moldies? Yeah.

Yeah. They're moldies. Yeah. We invented a genre. Got a boy. Jessica, what were your thoughts on the NBA turning around and canceling Magic City Night because of the public pressure? And I'm going to say it's just the sponsors because of the sponsor pressure. First of all, did you guys see what Asia Wilson's boyfriend did last night?

Yeah, we're not talking about that. Thank you very much. Yeah, Dan, I was, I was, I guess not surprised that they canceled Magic City Night, but maybe a little bit surprised. And I read a really good interview with a woman who works for a, like, workers' rights group for strippers and dancers and entertainers. And she was, like, basically saying, I wish I remembered what outlet it was in. But it was a good interview and people should, people should read it if they can find it up. They're not going to be able to find it based on the way you describe. Women's worker or strippers on outlet.

Search strippers. See how that goes for you. I'll find it. I bookmarked it. Anyways, she was like, you know, pushing dancers and entertainers and strippers into the margins is not actually looking out for us, Luke Cornett. And I'm paraphrasing there. And I thought that that was very well said because there's been a lot of conversation about this whole promotion. And most of it has just been from the perspective of, you know, basketball players and media people like me and you guys and not from the actual women who work at Magic City who thought that this was kind of a bummer.

Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, The Echoes with Mike Gold. Golick Jr. Yes. This is not an echo chamber. The echoes with Mike Golick Jr. Jessica, thank you. Good seeing you. Appreciate the time. Bye. Not enough Bam out of bio talk with her. There will be none. Not nearly enough Bam out of biotalk on this show today, Dan.

Not nearly enough. There will be none of that with Jamel Hill. Maybe there will be some of it with Jujugati, but I am making this a BAM auto bio free zone with Jamel Hill next. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right? Don't place parleyes on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero. Always drink your Yeagermeister ice cold.

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Never pee on an electric fence. Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Yeagermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold. Exactly. You're finally starting to get it. Drink responsibly.

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May a soul rest in peace. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Walk me through what you found most interesting about the Atlanta Hawks having a magic city night, trying to frame it as this is about chicken wings and cultural identity, an iconic establishment in Atlanta. Luke Cornett objects to it and soon after sponsors object to it. it and then the NBA ends up canceling the night. What did you find interesting there? What I found interesting and I will be totally honest, I say this as somebody who was thrown plenty of money up in Magic City. In fact, the last time I went, I think me and my husband

went, it was New Year's Eve. We went to Magic City and had a blast. What was most interesting to me, notice most of the objections weren't from women. They were from men. And this really surprised me. And I think a lot of it is the fact that we don't put Magic City culturally or even from just a pure strip club standpoint in the same category as other strip clubs. I mean, you all have something pretty similar in King of Diamond, even though King of Diamies, even though I would say King of Diamies is not necessarily the same cultural fixture that Magic City is in Atlanta. Now, I'm probably pretty biased because last summer in Miami, I, I hosted a panel that was about Magic City, the docu series that's on Stars, which is very good.

And really takes you inside how this club became such a cultural fixture in the city. Could every city get away with a Magic City Night, something after a famous strip club? No. But I think Atlanta could have pulled it off. But it was really interesting to me that most of the objections were coming from men and not from women. I'm going to make you feel even older. King of Diamonds is now a Cadillac dealership. I know you lying.

What? It had a run. What is happening to my youth? It had a run. It was happening to me. It did. It was a short run, though. It was really, in retrospect, a store streaking across the sky.

It does not have the kind of legacy that Tootsies would say. Gee, this is an all-around depressing conversation, thanks, Dan. The other thing I will say just really quickly about Magic City is, you know, people, raise their eyebrows when I say this, but it's true. The reason women enjoy strip clubs is it's the safest place for a woman to be. You can get good food. You can get great music. You can see women who are very athletic, dance and have conversations with them. And the men leave you alone because you're not the naked ones. So it's like the best place. You get all the things that you want to enjoy about a nightclub experience without being hassled by men all night.

I'm serious when I ask this question. In Atlanta, what is a bigger cultural fixture, as you say? Magic City or the Atlanta Hawks themselves? Magic City. I don't know if I have the right to say that as somebody who's not from Atlanta. But while there are certainly the Hawks have had their moments, obviously the Dominique Wilkins era is a pretty big one. in Atlanta Hawks' Lord, but I'll put it this way. If one of those institutions left, which one would people be more heartbroken about?

And I would argue it might be Magic City. You and Ryan Clark spoke to writer Ellen Briggs recently about this extremely dangerous trend you both have faced and countless others in sports media have faced of having fake quotes attributed to you and then going viral. How often are you experiencing this and how bad is it? It's pretty bad. And I would say, and I'm probably being conservative by saying at least monthly. And I just don't, I understand how people are able to get away with it because once most of the social media platforms, if not pretty much all of them, dropped any kind of safeguards around false information and vetting that out.

and not that what they had in place was perfect, but at least it was something. But once they decided to drop all kind of, you know, these safeguards and guardrails about, you know, profiting off of false information, it has led to not just me and Ryan Clark, but I'll just say people that they know will create a reaction and especially if it involves race or gender.

Like the number of fake quotes I see supposedly coming from Angel Reese is astonishing. And that's because she's polarizing, you know, through in many ways, through no fault of her own. So we know based off research that the people most abused on social media are women. We also know black women are right there, you know, maybe even higher than just women overall, black women in general. And so if you could take somebody like me who often speaks about racial and social issues and you could throw my face on a pretty looking postcard and a pretty looking graphic and have a quote that's totally made up, the engagement goes through the roof. And I have had to encounter this at least five times. And I don't know even what else is circulating.

But I just know that when the vitriol shows up in my inbox, something somewhere had contributed to that. And probably, like, maybe one of the worst cases is when, you know, speaking to Andrew Reese, they found a way to put us, you know, together, like combining their polarizing Voltron to get maximum engagement. And there was this fake quote that was circulating and that said that Andrew Reese is the Michael Jordan of the WNBA, something I've never come close to remotely saying. And the level of vitriol that that generated. I mean, I honestly hadn't been called the N-word that many times since I said what I said about Donald Trump. Like, that's how bad it was. And I'm just like, it really blew my mind because let's just say in some crazy

universe, I did say that. It's still a basketball opinion. Certainly nothing worthy of me receiving that kind of very dangerous and horrible feedback. And so it's been a real problem. I've been threatened many times because of these fake quotes. And I just wonder what illegal recourse is for myself or others who have had to endure this because it's not right. And then they're able to profit off of it. And I don't know if it's bot farms. I think according to the article, you know, a lot of these sort of mechanisms are operating overseas and they're just doing it for clickbait and engagement and monetization. And it's it's really, really horrible. Don Lebatard. Are the stakes that high that if Angel Reese loses to Caitlin Clark, you need to

start over again as a race? Stugats. I don't know that we have to necessarily start over, but it might have to be, it will be a black people's meeting, an important one that will be called the next day, but we might have to put some things on the agenda and get it on the table.

This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. You and I have talked on South Beach sessions and elsewhere about you being in the office of John Skipper after a controversy that now seems quaint instead of poisonous, the idea that not that long ago you were calling Donald Trump a white supremacist, and now all of a sudden we see everything that's happening. You were crying in Skipper's office. If I had showed up next to you at that moment and said, here's where we're going to be in America in 2026, and it looks like it presently looks right now, would you have believed that things would have gotten this

No, and I often have said to people that it's the one, it's, it's a time where I wish I would have been proven wrong, where I wish, you know, a year later or three years later or five years later, people would have looked back, look back at what I said or, you know, said, hey, remember when you said this and he's totally not that way, this is completely different. And I just would have had to wear a little egg on my face and as opposed to us being in this very dangerous moment being led by somebody who is a danger to a lot of people's existence and frankly to this country. And so I've never wanted to be more wrong about somebody than I was about Donald Trump. But even in my wildest imagination, I didn't imagine this. And the only reason I didn't imagine it getting to this level

is because despite who he has surrounded himself with, and we saw this in the first term, is that while I had similar thoughts about the people he surrounded himself with, these are people who sort of grew up in government and believed in the functioning of government. The people around him now don't believe in that. They want not just chaos, but they want to break government. They want to completely break people's faith in the institutions.

And what it has exposed is that for a long period of time, maybe throughout our entire history, we have operated as if these institutions that we revere and learn about in our history books were simply going to be able to stand for themselves. Well, democracy is only worth it if the people actually defend it. The Supreme Court only means something if somebody is actually willing to defend it. The three branches of government only means something if someone is actually willing to enforce it. And so what we have seen is not just his behavior

showcasing our weakest and most vulnerable points as a nation. We've also seen that the political cowardice really runs a month throughout our government to where even the people that say they want to protect these institutions actually really don't. And so it just really teaches you how much people will lean into

the most grossest things in order to have comfort. You mentioned Angel Reese. You've covered a lot of work stoppages in your time as a journalist. What do you think is going to happen with the WNBA negotiations? I always believe that a deal will get done 1159.59. I don't know what the back and forth is like at this point. And I know for a lot of people, they are, you know, thinking this will be a doomsday scenario because the players are pretty dug in.

But I think a deal still will be done. And I think the season will start on time. It will be rushed. A lot of it will be thrown together. It'll be kind of chaotic. But I think both parties realize even though the players, they have a, you know, they, they went through, I think it was a few months ago where they, you know, they pre-authorized the strike, which over 90% of the players were in favor of if it got to a point where they

didn't get some of the things that they want to get. And I know some of that has changed a little bit because they're sort of concerned and there's anxiety there. And it's anxiety that I believe that the league purposely created. I mean, we had Nekka Ogunma K, who's the president of the Players Association on Flagrin and Funny. And, you know, they gave the league a proposal, a counterproposal and the league sat on it for six weeks. And I think they did that. I agree with Nekka that they did that on purpose so that the players would then start to second guess what they were standing for. I mean, everything I've seen has played out in so many labor negotiations in the past, where the goal of the league is to break the union. And by break the union, meaning create enough anxiety

so that the things that they need to stand and hold firm on, so they'll back off those things and just basically creating division and friction. And so, hopefully the players don't go for it because this CBA could really set the table for the future generations of the WMBA. We see the money coming in. It's $2.2 billion media rights deal. They have multiple franchises now that are valued at over $300 million. I mean, the Valkyries, they just started two years ago, and that franchise is already valued

at $500 million. The New York Liberty valued at over $400 million. The players see this, okay? So they know if they don't stand firm on certain things, they'll never get them in the future. It'll always be wait. And I think as the money is coming in, as they're building the business, they deserve to reap the rewards of building that business, especially when you consider how many else they've taken to get to this point of having some kind of leverage in the negotiations.

You are a biased Homer on behalf of Michigan State. Certainly, you cannot defend Jeremy Fears out here. kicking people in the junk? I can't defend it. I was watching the game live, Dan. I will say live, it didn't look like that. And sometimes slow-mo can sort of cast a different perspective on things. Look, Jeremy Fears is a very, you're defending it.

I'm not defending it. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying that it didn't look that way live. On the slow mode, I understand. But here's the thing. Jeremy Fears is a hard competitor. And I know that people will probably look at the fact that Draymond also went to Michigan State and try to draw some kind of correlation and say, oh, is this the kind of player that Michigan State produces.

I will say this. As an unabashed homer of my university, you talk to any coach. They would much rather have to tell you to take the edge off than have to teach. you how to have edge because they feel like you, they can't teach you how to have edge and play with a certain type of grit. I do think that the complaints from Michigan are rival now that they had from the previous matchup that was in East Lansing were overblown and a little whiny. And now that that put a target on Jeremy's back to some degree. And I thought that was wholly unfair. But I understand why people have a problem with it, had no problem with the call that was.

made. I think Jeremy is a really excellent player. He's got a competitive edge. And he's got a nasty streak. And he's just got to learn as he matures how to get a better handle on that. Stop kicking people in the junk. That's what he's got to learn because he's

a serial offender. If you watched it live, you would have never thought that. You would have never thought this. It's not his first time doing it though. I mean, it kind looked like one of those old school Rick Flair ones where it's just like he's facing the referee and then the leg goes behind the back. It wasn't the first time he's done it either. I know it wasn't the first time. He has created a lack of doubt.

I understand this, that people look at the reputation. They say, of course, that's exactly what he intended and wanted to do. And I don't know if he did, but I know that his reputation isn't going to do him any favors. Hold on a second. To some degree, that's undeserved. All right, hold on a second. We've got a list here, a top five list, top five Jeremy Feeder. Are you ready? Go ahead. These are my top five Jeremy Fears. We got it.

Number five. I already said that. Number four. A baseball lockout. Number three. My wife realizing she's so much better than me. Number two. Dan.

Number one. Lee being removed from streaming services. You could watch new episodes of flagrant and funny with Jamel and her long time friend, Kerry Champion, as I mentioned. And it's Jamel Hill on YouTube. Spolitics on her YouTube channel. The YouTube channel is It's Jamel Hill. Always nice seeing you, Jamel.

Thank you. All right. Good to see you guys.