The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: An Awkward Split

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Ice Cube joins us to discuss The Big 3, where he expected more support of the league in the media, what he's learned about running the league in the first few years, why the NBA doesn't embrace them, and more. Then, we dive into a salacious story from the world of NCAA Bowling, the disaster for the U.S. Open, and children's TV programming. Plus, Jess learned about The Sandlot through a new Off The Looking Glass, Billy pitches an Australian correspondent for the World Cup, and Bob Huggins...yikes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with his two-guts podcast. This guy could have gone the cushy life. It could have just been wealth and acting gigs and movies No, he decides. I don't know because he's a fool or a genius to take on a giant business to try and create a sports league He's been doing it. It's not trying. It's in its sixth season There's TV contract involved the big three basketball league is a venture that is already successful But cube you can tell us and thank you for joining us. It's got to be the hardest thing you've

ever done in your life professionally to try and be overseeing something as sprawling as this kind of business. Hands down, you know, in music, Dr. Dre and one of my friends who became a producer, lived down the street from me. So, I was able to meet him at 14 years old. John Singleton discovered me as an actor and put me in boys in a hood. So no auditions or no crazy stories about, you know, struggling as a actor. And so, but the big three, you know, that's something me and my God, Jeff, continents who

I've been working with for over 25 years, you know, we, we invented this like from scratch. So, but it's so dope, you know, it's like one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done in my career because, you know, it's been so hard, but, you know, we're getting over to hump, which is great, you know, we're in our sixth season. You know, we still got some of the biggest names in sports, a part of the league.

And, you know, we got, you know, great new investors coming in. And it's just, you know, we're almost rolling downhill, Dan, so that's a great place to be with something that we've been, you know, kind of pushing up the hill. And we would have already been there

if it wasn't for COVID, you know, COVID kind of knocked every business, you every business back a few notches. So here we are, Cesar Six, jumping off June 25th, live on CBS, we ready to go. It's coming to Miami next month right here where the heat are playing in the finals. But I wanna talk to you about how hard it's been and where it's been hard and things you didn't expect in the creation of a business. Give me the time

in the last six years because startups are really hard and leagues are really hard where you've been angriest at someone or something because things keep getting in the way of your ambition. Well, you know, we're not naive. We knew this wasn't going to be an easy lift. We thought we would get a lot more love from the overall sports media community. You've always been supportive of the league and us promoting and me coming on and pushing the league over the hunt.

But for the most part, we thought we was gonna get more love from the sports landscape. Like I said, we got some of the biggest names. We got Hall of Famers as our coaches. And so to really virtually ignore a league that's this great, that's this dope in the summer, where there's nothing else for us hoops. You know, I know NBA got this summer lead,

but you know, after you see the first or second pick play once or twice, that's pretty much over and you wait for the regular season. So, you know, the big three is where it's at. So that's been, that's been, you know, I open and also the resistance from the NBA. You know, I mean, a lot of owners love us. You know, I just think it's really, really, you know, comes down to, to Adam Silver. You know, I just don't think he really digs what we're doing personally. But as far as the game of hoops, I think we're very additive when it comes to keeping basketball and people's mind all year long.

Now, we've had some crazy things with some people that we've had to deal with, you know, inside the league that we've, you know, pretty much kind of scraped out of there. And so, we're just looking forward to a great season. You know, the players are ready to go. You know, the fans, you know, our ratings are still, you know, you know, we're still better than MLS. You know, they have still better than MLS. You know, they have more games than us,

but the ratings are the ratings and NHL. So, you know, we should be on the map. And in some cases, you know, they're not putting us where we belong. Yeah, Cueb, I went to a game the first season in L.A. and I thought the crowd was kind of just there to be seen and I didn't really get it. And then the second year I went to a game in Dallas and it blew my mind. That how into it the crowd was the energy and that's when I really started to understand the vision of what this league could be.

What are some of the things that you learn from year one to right now. You know, kind of our, our tempo, you know, we, we have a long off season. So we got to look for our, our spots and the places where we can, you know, ramp the league back up and getting everybody's, you know, consciousness again. We had to learn that year by year or when do we really start to ramp up our promotion of the league. Those kind of things, we've had issues with just kind of getting a lot of obstacles out of our way. But, you know, we got more sponsors this year than we had last year.

So we're in a better spot there. You know, we still got our deal with CBS. So it's been great on that tip. You know, getting, getting it, like I said, the overall sports world to really look at what we're doing as something that could be around for a long time and could grow internationally pretty fast. So it's really just about chopping wood and convincing people that this is something dope in the summer to get into.

It's 10 weeks. So it's, you know, every game is very meaningful. You start dropping teams, you know, and after six weeks, you know, if you ain't up there, you're going to start getting dropped for the best teams to come down the stretch. So it's very interesting lead. Q, most of the venues you guys play in are NBA arenas, but you said like the NBA doesn't really embrace you guys even though it's not a competitive product. It's like you say

it's additive. It's complimentary. Why do you think? Why do you think that is? Like first of all, why? Why? He mentioned silver. What happened without them silver? They view us as competitive. So they don't view us as additive or complimentary. We're the only league that NBA owners can invest in, even though many have shown interest in investing. Some of the top names out there have shown interest in investing in the big three and and their bylaws won't allow them but they can invest in TBT you know they can invest in you know any other league pickleball they can invest in you know whatever's out there, but not the big three. And it's such a shame because, you know,

we have a lot of their former athletes in our league to extend their career. We have a lot of athletes, you know, that's, you know, had a, you know, a cup of coffee in the NBA and they trying to get back. So they want to showcase their talents to an American audience and not just go overseas. Again, on June 25th, the big three basketball league tips off its six seasons. CBS is the primary broadcast partner.

20 hours of live weekend, game summer of this 2023. And also we've got games in Miami, July 23rd. Cube, thank you for the time. We appreciate you being on with us. It's, I wanted to talk to you about the dirty game of trying to get investors and doing business overseas when you need investors, but it's probably better that we just go ahead and go to break because I'm guessing you don't want to talk about those people who are

bigger thieves than anybody in the music business has ever been. No, no, you know, I don't want to get into that, you know, I think, you know, in the end we're going to end up working it out, you know, but we do have a MLB investor that we're going to announce very soon they'll be investor that we're gonna announce very soon who believes in the league. And he wants to put a team. His name, David Samson. And a cool spot. Nah, nah, but he can give us a card if he needs to.

He's looking to be a part of this great thing that we're going. We're also putting teams in cities. So that's gonna be amazing too. Dan, you can have the Miami team, man, go on and, you know, hit me up. I know you need to spend that money somewhere. Yeah, that's a cyclone, so.

I got a spot too, Dan. I would like to actually buy a team. I am just afraid of this as a business enterprise because my guess is that when you started this, you had no idea what a pain in the ass it was gonna be. How incredibly hard, like yet an idea, it was gonna be hard, but that I can't even imagine, Kube, what you, you could have done anything.

You could have music acts touring all over the country. You could have had this. Boring. So you could, it would have been so much easier. Boring, easy is not fun. Easy is boring. Who needs easy? Like we're almost, you know, look, it only cost $18 million a year to run this week. They play, they pay that to some athletes per year. So we're just close to being over the hump and then it's all profit, baby. You better get on in.

Oh, well, but I know that you're proud of the fact that on top of this like you see the potential the vision of real ownership of not bleeping around like not like real ownership. Yes, that's what it's all about. You know, I don't want to you know, I could have been a minority owner of a little small, you know, a piece of a NFL team or NBA team, but you know, basically you're just a, you know, you're just a, you know, a fan who's paid a lot of money sitting good seats. So, you know, I want to make sure we can run something from the ground up, something we could be proud of, something that can go on and on for a long time. And we're here six years. You edited yourself for the people I am not used to.

I used to keep editing himself. He's a businessman. He is a businessman now, and he had to be careful with his word choice there. Thank you, sir. All right, let's take it easy. Thank God, bless. ¡Es un sitio ayuda! Estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes. A raíz, ¡blook! ¡A raíz! ¡Escuchéis lo que escuchéis! ¡Tapados los ojos! La calle vamos todos a cieras, pero lo más aterrador es no saber en qué confiar.

Uí de las personas que os piden que mireis. Si queréis seguir convido. Box Barcelona, estreno en Netflix el 14 de up in subject matter that would include a bowling team at Stephen F. Austin. But this story from an assistant coach at said bowling team. His wife is the head coach had an affair with one of his bowlers. That part by itself is something that might peak your interest. The quotes attributed to Steve Lemke when being asked about having an affair with one of his bowlers and he's the assistant coach and his wife is the head coach. Quote, I knew it was kind of a no-no, but there's not a rule saying it can't happen. There's not a law saying I'm going to go to jail for doing something like this. There's nothing in stone.

I guess it's just an ethics code, like we frown upon it, but there's no rule. There's no law broken. He continues. I was the stay-at-home dad for five years with the kids while Amber got to go off and coach the team and when she'd get back I'd run practices on top of taking care of the kids while she was back. When they'd travel again I would sit back and take care of the kids. Then when I got hired on she almost forced me to run practices. I was a volunteer the entire time before that trying to help out Amber. Once I got hired on, one thing stemmed from another. I felt like I was doing too much for what I was being valued at.

The headline on this story, spare relationship causes awkward split. No! What is the matter with you? Get off my phone! What is the matter with you? I have a bad feeling about it. I have a bad feeling about it.. What is the matter with you? I really watch flash both Billy and Jessica now Mike is in the back row giving thumbs down I gave a thumbs down to the loser game show sound as a very clever headline

But you know what something set back. I got to acknowledge this is not my show anymore. What is this man's problem? Yes, truly, I think there are rules that if you are a coach of a team, you cannot sleep with an athlete on the tee. I think that is probably something that he may maybe signed or in handbooks somewhere. And it's also quite literally written in stone. The 10 commandments.

But I don't think that Stephen F. Austin's bowling team may have rules or terms and conditions. I believe they are national champions, and I could be wrong about that. I believe that they're multi-time national champions. Oh, it's a good bowling team. It's a good bowling. You don't know the NCAA bowling champion off the top of your head?

It's crazy. This is all crazy. This is all crazy. And then to basically blame your wife on it, on your bad behavior, is just the boldest thing that I've heard in a long time. It sounds like something a Tim Robinson character would do. I didn't do shit. I didn't do shit.

Jessica, I can't believe that story. I thought it was from the onion. I thought it was being written by fiction writers until I saw that headline. was it was the headline that convinced me all of this has to be real Did you read down in the article where they just said the bull earned question is out of eligibility and will not be returning next year what Well, maybe maybe that's what he's saying isn't against the rules or against the law. It's just a morality in his marriage that he's fractured. He's doing something shitty and then being like, well, I didn't break the law.

Like, in the same voice as the referee in Airbud, who's like, there's no rules during the dog campley basketball. But that's crazy. But being quoted on your resentment. Deep pull. It's it. No rule that says I can't have sex with someone on my team that my wife coaches because she's left me at home for five years Taking care of my kids got forbid I do some childcare around here while she has a job

To be quoted on your marital resentment as an explanation, but well, this is why I cheated There is I mean she drove me to it because I wasn't a successful as she was. Usually how it goes, in terms of excuses, I've read up. The headline was bowling puns. You just gave yourself? No, I get it now. Oh, okay. You weren't getting before spare relationship causes awkward split. You missed the first time.

Let's try it with a try one more time. I guess his headline. I guess his headline. I guess his mind was in the gutter. Ah! I don't think that did. No, no. With a gutter ball.

I think that's a gutter ball. That's when you throw it. Yeah, it goes in the gutter. Yeah. Don't make me do the one about fingers and holes. Speaking of gutter balls, golf balls in the gutter, the US open was a total disaster transition. The US open the first one after the alleged merger, not merger between the PGA and live. Jessica and Mike were both complaining that it felt like a small time affair that it ceased

to feel like a major that throwing big events evidently is what the country club gets right they do it correctly they televised correctly right up until they merge with uh... you know the sowny money and then the next to production that the u.s. open makes is amateur hour well so this is the u s g USGA, I think, is responsible for making this agreement with LA Country Club to host the event.

And then there were all sorts of reports that they didn't want to offer tickets to non-members. And then the type of tier of ticket that they put on for sale was the reason that the crowd was so sparse the first three days. And so there was a lot to be desired from the first few days of the tournament. But the thing that I found the most annoying was that incessant drone noise in the broadcast all

day Sunday, I thought like, is my door open? Is there something going on outside? No, it was some plain flying overhead at LA Country Club. It was so annoying. And I read more details about this country club, which is in the middle of Beverly Hills. It cost $250,000 to join. There's only 800 members or something like that. Very, very exclusive club.

Can't wear shorts there. Can't use your phone there. If you are seven years old or older, you have to wear a dining jacket, a dinner jacket, at the clubhouse, in a certain amount of time. Like, you're just kind of like going to eat at the club and you're seven or older, you have to put on a dinner jacket. See how much they pay in taxes a year?

Yeah, they pay, they pay taxes based off of a, like 1970s land valuation because of some California law. So they say they've $80 million on taxes per year. Whole five has Judy Garland's old home that was used as the exterior for Sunset Boulevard. Really the Playboy Mansion I also saw was on the Country Club Grounds. I mean, just a ridiculous, ridiculously exclusive venue

for a club. And it would have been fine if it weren't for that airplane noise, the buzzing. The buzzing. The buzzing every single day of this tournament, you had to almost watch it on mute because also I think they're they're ticket approach led to no ambient noise from the crowd

because there wasn't really any crowd nor atmosphere sports television for me if I can just watch it on mute I was preferred it was so annoying the constant buzzing the usga just totally made what should be one of the more fun tournaments because you get prime time golf when do you ever get that you had Ricky Fowler and you had Rory McElroy trying to win majors Rory has one one I think since 2014 Ricky was everybody's favorite golfer like 2017 and he's never in the conversation in the final round and he finally was and yet you had this grading tournament the entire time are you guys saying that the sound made the us open

droning You can't give yourself get out of here. Just go sit in the back. He wants that Dan Lieve minutes five minutes. No get him out of here. I know Mike wants to step back Jessica you please move into the seat Mike will remain in the back and we will continue to talk about he's just at this point he's tired of the responsibility. He's worked about as hard as he can. He's relieved to have stood out of his life for a couple of days and he did that just to get me to kick him out. You're right, Tony, but what I'm going to also do is deduct it from his paycheck

and that he's not gonna want. To say, the US opened though, Mike, because the noisiness of it, Jessica was saying, it was a lot worse if you were there that they were trying to mitigate it on the telecast, they were trying to dilute it on the telecast and it was just because there were so many planes flying overhead. Jessica mentioned what this country club cost. It's $250,000.

So as much as it cost to go in that submersive to see the Titanic, just to be a part of this exclusive club, it didn't feel just because of the noise to you like it was exclusive crap course just all of it was bad it was it all felt very small time on something that is really look forward to a major on the west coast the ability to watch marquee names in prime time television during father's day weekend you kidding me all my wife asked me what do I want for father's day I said on Sunday I want a midday nap, and I want to be able to watch the final round of the US open.

And I turned it on, and I couldn't do it anymore. I had to put it on mute. It was just so, so grating and bad. And also, I found out, Windom Clark is a January 6th truth or a truth or which didn't allegedly, but it didn't really surprise me all that much because you're not allowed to be surprised about the political leanings of golfers and hockey players I found out. You just got to accept that.

Now I know I might didn't know who M.B.A. Youngboy was or Blueface or any of these people because he wants a mid-day nap and a watch golf. I was just thinking Sony, I was. I was just napped during the Wobby out. Bobby, I was on the boat, I was hanging out. Don't you napped during the witching out? No, I napped during like the 445 Colts Raiders game with Ion Eagle on. But you're going to give me crap for nap and during golf? Well, I do think though, look, both of you are, are really sketchy with what it is that you're doing for different reasons,

for different reasons. Tony is sleeping during what is considered the most fun and energetic time in All of sports the witching hour NFL Sunday that seems absurd by itself, but he's also right Mike when he says You've never said anything older than what I want for father's day is a nap during golf I've got a three-year-old. I've got a three-year-old Okay, two people that don't have three-year-olds judging me for what I believe to be an ideal father's day. Let me get an hour-midday nap, recharge the batteries, and let me sit on a couch and watch a TV that is not occupied by Stephen Maggi, or Bluey, or Peppa Pig, or Blippi, or any of that crap. Let me just let me have the main TV to watch golf

This was my one request. I wasn't allowed to nap and the buzzing overhead made the US open intolerable Why didn't you watch it on me like the end of us? I ended up doing that put it on the pole. Please that levitar show, Juju Is it a great father's day gift to have an hour nap on the main television during golf? Is it the best Father's Day gift? Because it was the only one you wanted. You requested one gift. Well, I didn't want a gift. I just wanted to be able to take a midday nap and watch the final round uninterrupted and not have the big TV. The one that I've spent too much money on occupied by Stephen Maggie. Do you know what Stephen Maggie is? I have no idea. Steve is this guy that goes up and he points out like a cup and this is the entirety of the show

And my my daughter finds it hilarious. Oh It's a cup It's a cup It's a cup and I'm going to drink a cup of coffee. It's a coffee. It's a coffee. It's harmful to my mental health. I zoned out for the last three minutes.

I have no idea what just happened. Roy, you agree with Mike. You're the only one with kids and you're out here agreeing with Mike. He just gave some sage advice right there. Just take a nap. Eats. A nap. Eats. A nap. Eats. A nap. Don Lebatard. I think I'd like to know when I'm gonna die because I sort of romanticized the idea of like

living like you were dying when you're on a countdown clock. Imagine all the life experiences. Like I could go skydiving or Rocky Mountain climbing. Still gots. Roy brings up a point though. Like Roy does bring up a point. Like you might be risking paralysis. And that's totally correct. Just totally trying to put my business.

But what if God forbid, it says you get a die in the clock, guys? What if it says a week though? Like, or two days or a month? I don't want to know that. Well, then you just love deeper and speak sweeter and give forgiveness to those that you've been denying. Someday, I hope you get the chance to live like you were dying.

Do you have more, is that it? No, thank you guys for letting me go through that smoothly. VCs, they done live at our show with their stugats. We haven't talked nearly enough about what happened with Bob Huggins. We'll get to that in just a second. I also want to get to a story I read about. United Airlines, baggage handlers were making $10,000 a week by basically just stealing weed from the luggage of passengers,

the perfect crime, because who's going to say anything about their stolen weed? I don't know how they got caught. I don't know how their business enterprise worked. If they used dogs or if they were just opening everybody's bags, but before we get to that, Jessica, off the looking glass, you do it weekly with Kate Fagan. What is it that you're tackling this week that you're excited about well i tease it a while back

we watch the sandlot we did a little review we had patrick rena on who is this one of the star child actors of the sandlot but more importantly we had on the snacks podcast which is the podcast hosted by sam u.s. and lin wiliams lin wiliams today was named to the u.S. Women's National Team World Cup roster. Big day down roster revealed day for the World Cup, which starts in about a month. I mean, it's going to be here around the corner in Australia, New Zealand. We were so excited to have them on.

And then, Roy and I watched an eight-minute roster reveal video on Twitter that had some of the heaviest of the heavy hitters on naming all the roster spots for the world cup. I've never seen anything like it. It opened with Joe Biden and Jill Biden, the president of the first lady, and then it had Megan the stallion in it. It had Roy help me. Who else was in it? She was.

Taylor Swift, isn't it? She's the stallion. I thought there's these two ease at the end. Yeah. You in it. She's the stallion. I thought there's these. There's these. Two ease at the end. Yeah. You got me. You're right. I had Taylor Swift in it. It had stars on stars on stars.

I've never seen anything like it. It was probably five minutes too long because after the first five stars, I was like, all right, Blake Lively, honestly, next to all these other people. Wow. Like, a let down, right? Like halfway through, Roy, correct me if I'm wrong.

You're watching this video with me and we're like, all right, well, those are like the five most famous people in the United States back to back to back. And now it's like, Mariska Hargote, love her. But I'm like, wow, like we're still going. This is a long video. Yeah, it went down for a little bit and then went right back up with Gabi Union.

Exactly, crazy video. Roy, how did you feel about it? You were just, you just watching With Jessica, you're watching for H Straight Manage, just enjoying the pageantry or what? I was enjoying the pageantry of the avenues A-listers on this video, like one person per celebrity.

That's a long video. They gave their own opinions and everything. It was like the gal helped me pronounce her last name. Gado. Gado? Gado. Gado. Yeah. And I'm bad with pronunciations. It was like the imagined video almost,

but like for the World Cup roster. It was just like another slow up Tina Fey. All right, haven't thought about Tina Fey. All right, I know. Another one. Becky Sauer-Brun going to be missing the World Cup. I'm very excited about the World Cup, but I do want to put something on everybody's radar.

There's a potential conflict from hell if you like soccer, because there is the belief, the growing belief, especially if you look at rising ticket prices, that Lionel Messi's debut with Inter Miami will be in a brand new competition called the Leagues Cup, where they take teams from Liga and Meckys in Mexico and MLS, and they put them in group play in a World Cup- tournament. The date for cruises all versus inner Miami is the same day as the u.s. women's national teams first match at the world cup. One slated to kick off at eight o'clock. The

other slated to kick off at nine o'clock. And I really hope because considering the interest in both those events that they don't cannibalize our own audience. I'll be watching the World Cup. Dan, as it's the World Cup. I have an idea to run by you that probably should be off air, but we're here. So let's do it. I had someone in Australia reach out to me and offer to be our Women's World Cup correspondent

live from Australia. Is that something that interests the people of the court? Is it more than? It is more. Absolutely. Yeah. Billy, go sit in the penalty box. Why? Why? Because why would I want to take your ideas? I mean, I'm trying, we're trying to figure out the coverage of the women's world cup. I don't know, Dan. Just, we have a planning problem around here. So the world cup hasn't happened yet. I'll tell you what this is out in front of everyone here a month out. Okay, I've already rejected it. Thank you. Thank you. Oh man. We just want to have Morgan on because she lives in Australia. We do have a, she's

going to, I know that I know that a sponsor is covering all the ticket prices and all the travel and all that. So it's basically free cover. Hey, what? Why are you still here? I don't know. Let's talk. Okay. Yeah. That'm sending One of the people hosting you. Our planning problem is that you don't plan before the microphone is on That world cups. Yeah, don't want to don't want to have a meeting about this now. Thank you Did you guys know that you're killing me smalls was in the film Sandlot and that's where it came from? Yes You learn something new every day Getting back to Bob. Can she go to?

She can go to. She can go to. Go sit with Billy. Yes, in front of the Stugots face, not helpful either one of you. Now, of course, this puts Mike in the position where he has stepped back. So Roy, I need you to get in the seat, please, where the decisions are made. And now you see why it is that bad ideas are not allowed to sit in that seat.

Yeah, let's just farm out content to somebody who lives in Australia because we're lazy. They live in Australia, yeah. Yeah, no. It's a time difference thing, you know? But they live in Australia. Yeah, that's just a terrible idea.

Why I'm not gonna get used to Mike him sitting in that seat and giving me bad ideas, because he likes to do things. He likes to do a show for just himself. And so he wants to do 40 people on Zoom Zoom all the time and do the show for those 40 people and nobody else. And I can't have that running the show around here because it'll sink right

into the gutter and we'll just have 40 people talking because Billy wants to talk to them. Sorry, I physically step back though. I don't know what you want me to do about it. If I sit in that chair, I annoy the audience. And so far feedback from me sitting in other chairs has gone great. Like no one seems to have an issue with me sitting in other chairs. I like being back here too. Yes, fresh.

And you know what? Maybe Wi-Fi had something to do with the pyramids. Mm. Interesting. Getting back to Bob Huggins, who somehow survived in a way that I was surprised by even though I've seen some things in sports. I mean, it's well known.

He's had a DIY in the past, but this is like one of the worst kept secrets in all the four. Just stop for a second. Yes, I can say that I've seen Bob Huggins a handful of times away from basketball games and it's been hammered, like publicly super hammered and he's had another DUI, but that's not the part I'm talking about. I'm talking about him a month ago, surviving the scandal of going on live radio in his market and very casually using a gayslur and surviving it easily by just saying i'll pay a

million dollar fine you can't affect me bob huggins is a legend bob huggins uh... does or is is reported to care about his kids a great deal bob Huggins is a legend. Bob Huggins does or is reported to care about his kids a great deal. Bob Huggins also, based on multiple DUIs, I think you can make, you can surmise that the drinking is a problem once you've gotten to the multiple DUIs. But he survived the first scandal. And this was cumulative. This was West Virginia saying, yeah, can't be that and also that. We're not gonna do both of those, but he leaves with that as the punctuation

on what is a legendary college career. The details on this story, beer cans in the car. Burger King. Burger King, which is, I mean, that right there, I don't even need a breathalyzer to know that if you're at beer cans in the car and Budweiser, we don't have to do any roadside testing. Yeah. You've been, you've been drinking. How about if you're Bob Huggins and you, you pull over Bob Huggins? I don't really need much more than that, but apparently according to

some of the details that I've read, he reportedly didn't know what city he was in. He was asked repeatedly and he gave a different answer to that question a couple of times. And there's a body cam footage somewhere of this that has not been released yet. I imagine it was a really bad looking. I was also kind of bothered by the slap on the wrist that he got for the first one. And now that this is out there in the public sphere, when I first heard that clip, privately workshopping, guy sounds a little

saw-stup, given what I know about Bob Huggins. And how casually he just rifled that takeoff, that homophobic slur. Let's examine for a second the timing of these two things If you believe that this is cumulative on the first one couldn't get Bob Huggins fired So I understand why David Samson and other jump jump to the conclusion of DUI greater crime very successful Offseason for West Virginia when it comes to the portal I think you can make an argument Arkansas's won it because they can directly fund their NIL, but West Virginia was slated to have a big season, which I guarantee you went into the first offense when they were trying to figure out the punishment.

Bob Huggins is great at being a mercenary in the mercenary game. He is one of the names that you associate with Ken get talented anytime knows how to uh... run through the labyrinth that is the evolution of n i l and money because he's been dealing in this money game getting the good players for a long time but i want to and he'd be at a much bigger program if it wasn't for his track record i want to examine though the timing of these things does he survive the d uI if it's first? Yes. I think he's, well, he very clearly survived the first offense. I think if they were just, if the, the DUI happened first, even at a point 210, you say I got treatment, that's

it. You can navigate that from a PR standpoint. But on the heels of the homophobic slur in which everybody was upset at the lack of punishment that he got it was what two games. Well, but it was a million dollars. It was a million dollars. I mean, people don't, that doesn't really register. Okay, but it is punitive. I thought he should have been fired. I thought I was surprised that he wasn't. Right, and maybe it might have been a last straw type of thing like you can't you can't embarrass Us on the heels of this because we we kind of took one for you

But you believe that if he had gotten the 2.1 DUI that he would have Kept his job and then he does the radio interview and then loses his job You think that I don't think he does a radio interview at that point because he's getting treatment, but I do think him being terminated has everything to do with both of these things happening back to back.

I think it's a combination of the two and not just one. But the thing that I was interested in that he survived the first one on was like, oh, wow. West Virginia is willing to take the blowback on that on being a place where your constituency is okay with the mercenary coach saying something that is hugely antiquated by the standards of 2023, even if you come from the jocular language of the locker room, everybody understands the head coach can't be that dumb, but he survives it somehow, and they're willing to take the hit on that. But then, oh, the DUI is too much for our morality.

I guess it's worth noting that he resigned. So maybe, yes, of course, resigned, but resigned under pressure, resigned so he could get the rest of his money, however it is that the lawyers can figure it out on.