The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: And Sons
Episode Date: October 24, 2024Roy Wood Jr. kicks off Hour 2 to chat about how his new show balances politics with in a way that's unique, his AirPods matching his outfit, the authenticity of Obama's Eminem impression, Elon Musk ju...mping around like a "dipshit," when smart people get mad, LeBron and Bronny's nepotism only being a problem because they're athletes, and to deliver his Semi-Sure Bet of the Week. Then, on Gen CFB, Mike Golic Jr. subs in for Lucy Rohden to play a game of Questions That Need Answers. How did Georgia stun Texas? Why don't broadcasters wear cozy sweaters anymore? Is this rock bottom for Lincoln Riley? (All Bias Aside). They also preview Notre Dame's huge matchup with Navy, LSU's havoc-filled defense, and UNLV and Boise State's Friday night showdown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stugats Podcast.
I have loved The Daily Show for a long time and I have loved Roy Wood Jr.'s work for a
long time and I wish that he had the full weight of The Daily Show resources behind
him because I would have loved to have seen what he would have made running that entire empire but
he's got something now that while probably not in the same realm of
resources have i got news for you is an ambitious funny show
that navigates through cnn and max uh...
politics in a way that i believe
funny people would really appreciate the same way they appreciate john oliver in the same way they appreciate the daily show so i don't
know what the feedback has been so far roy and i want to talk to you about the
things that are going on right now in sports and elsewhere but you have a
special show you are doing something that seems particularly suited to your
talent and what is the floor of this show with the wraps the ceiling can be
amazing and i hope you're already feeling that
because the show is really fun to watch
and you're a smart navigator
of some difficult political times.
I appreciate it, man.
It's just a fake news quiz show
about the week and current events.
So we get to be fun with it a little bit more
than what we were doing with the Daily Show
where you kind of got to get into the humanity of it.
And thankfully, CNN on a Saturday night,
there's no room for humanity.
These are jokes and information.
Let's keep it moving.
And so, the ratings have been great.
The execs are happy.
I know we're making a dent because I got
my first death threat, and that means
you're doing something good with regards
to making fun of people.
So you know you got to you got to measure your career and threats to your person.
But beyond that though you're also navigating a difficult time in comedy where people are
scared to get close to the politics.
Roy you're taking a lane here like people pretend to be edgy around the politics but
you're taking a lane here that people i imagine would appreciate having something that they can just laugh at
because of the sheer absurdity the way that's a light show once upon a time
went after politicians in the way that you do it at the correspondence dinner
you're actually navigating a very difficult time in comedy in politics to
do a show that has some degree of difficulty on it
what we hope to do also is get politicians on
so we can play some of these games to their face.
That's what made the British version,
you know, our show is a remake of a British version
that's been around for 35 years.
And that show made its name for itself
by bringing on officials who were currently in office,
not like former appellate,
I was an advisor to the aid, to the,
no, active members of parliament will come and sit on that show
and get roasted a little bit to their face.
So I think as the show grows and we gain the trust,
I think we'll be in a position to be able
to do the same thing.
You know, politicians be weird about, you know,
public appearances sometimes, especially with my ass.
Once they know I'm involved,
gotta put somebody else on the email.
Roy, Izzy Gutierrez here.
I've been loving your segments with the show.
Pleasure to meet you here.
I am curious though, have you always matched your AirPods
to your outfit because that is gangster.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
No, not always, but I was gifted a couple of different
like custom colored AirPods from a woman
who's no longer in my life,
but this is a little nice little souvenir.
It is, it is stylish.
I'm curious, before we get to some of the pop culture stuff
this week, can you speak honestly and overtly
about how you feel about how John Oliver, Bill Maher,
and other people in this space attack comedy?
To me, they're the more fearless ones, you know,
because they're standing alone.
Like, no matter what I was saying on Daily Show,
I had Trevor right there kind of as a right hand
to kind of Jordan Pipp in the situation.
You know, the way that they carry this stuff
and the way that they've been able to just attack
issue after issue after issue,
and they're not always
going to be on you're not going to agree with them every time but I respect the attempt
and you know people you know as much as we talk about John Stewart I think we forget
that Bill Maher has been doing this since the mid 90s ish give or take somewhere in
there I feel like he and Colin Quinn were kind of like 1.0s
to Jon Stewart's 1.5.
I'd argue that those shows are better than these shows.
No affront to these shows just because they were during
the hungriest time in those comedy people's lives.
Like those people, they were immature,
but they've never been hungrier than they were on that show.
Yeah, I mean, you take a show that politically incorrect
and it's similar to what we're doing right now at CNN
only you remove the game show element of it.
You kind of have to gamify stuff to kind of lure people in
to actually want to watch stuff sometimes in a way
because they want to see if they're smart or how,
I want to measure up my smarts to some dummy on television.
But yeah, those guys, I think they were very much patient
zeros on figuring out how to use comedy and politics
to punch up at the establishment.
Let's go out here to get some expert analysis on some
of the things that happened in politics this week.
Let's go out to Obama here.
He surprised some people.
I don't know that you should be surprised by this.
But let's see what Roy has to say about this
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just happened there?
I appreciate you. Look, this is what you'all gotta understand. We are in panda phase of the election, okay?
This is what you have to do to activate some voters. You can't talk policy no more.
I gotta trick Michigan voters into thinking that I know every single M&M song, and if they really wanted to test Obama's love,
they should have asked him to spit M&M's verse from Renegade off the Jay-Z album.
That would have been more impressive just because of the lung play on that one. I don't,
do I believe that President Obama is legitimately a fan of Eminem? I think he appreciates Eminem,
but if we go back through the crates, you got journalists there, they can dig in this while
we're talking. I don't think in any of Obama's playlists,
you know how like every year they made us think
that what the president listens to is relevant?
I don't think Eminem made many of those lists.
If any, I'm looking at one right now from 2012
and it's got Wilco and Ario Speedwagon,
Aretha Algreen, Darius Rucker, Ricky Martin, Springsteen, no Eminem.
Where's the authenticity?
Yeah, yeah, it's a good point.
You had eight years to put Eminem,
and I'm not saying he didn't, but I just,
this is a man who's an open Jay-Z fan.
He sang Al Green, Gutierrez, do you remember?
He sang Love and Happiness. Green goody errors. Do you remember?
Uh, REO Speedwagon, huh? That was on the play.
I'm reading the New Yorker list right now. I, I just,
I'm fine with it.
Whatever it takes to get people out to vote.
That's what you got to do now. If you got to get Beyonce, there's rumors that Beyonce's
gonna pull up to the Houston rally this week.
If you got to go to McDonald's, excuse me,
if you have to build a McDonald's and then pretend
to work in that McDonald's and then have pretend customers
in that McDonald's, cause you think that will get you
more votes, you got to do it.
If Trump was going to fake doing a job,
he should have faked being a DJ.
That's what I would have done.
Yeah, it's a little easier.
If I wanted to reach middle class voters or people that are
dealing with real life issues, if I'm Trump, I would pretend to
be a DJ, I would build a fake liquor store, or I would pretend
to work at a check cashing spot. Like there's something or the DMV. Something
where you meet viewer you meet voters on a more regular wise
McDonald's the job. This is a lot of other jobs you could do
you could be cable man. Say you're gonna come by my house
between 10am and 9pm and then show up at 11 p.m. Check cashing store.
That's a regular job.
I mean, you know, I think that if you're talking
about reaching voters where they are,
and if this is a battle between undecided voters,
a lot of undecided voters, in my opinion,
a lot of people are just busy.
Like, we want to call all undecided voters dumb,
and I think there is an element of that,
but a lot of folks ain't got time to consume news and politics and every nuanced fact
the way we do they just don't have the time so I think you have to respect the
fact that some people it just comes down to did Obama fumble the M&M verse yes
or no let's play here a clip of Elon Musk hopping around. Tim Walz might call this quote, like a dipshit.
Let's just see what the signature,
what is your appraisal here of Elon Musk?
I wanna play some John Amici sound
about Elon Musk as well.
Now it looks like a terrible towel.
What are your thoughts here, Roy?
Elon Musk is, Elon Musk is the make a wish kid who could just afford to make all his own wishes his
damn self.
He's just out there living the dream.
He want a rocket, I got a rocket, I got a car that can drive itself.
I could be friends with Dave Chappelle if I want to be friends with Dave Chappelle.
If I want to be next to the president. If I want 10 kids, I want a big house, if I want to buy a social media company and make
it worse and then make it a ruthless emotional freefall where strangers can come and fight each
other, I could do that too. Like I think what Elon Musk is doing, and then also there's the
petition stuff with the money for the sign the petition to pledge your allegiance to the first and second amendment,
but also vote for Trump.
Like, I think that what Elon is doing
is just really showing us what a lot of rich people do
behind the scenes.
And he's just not as slick about it.
He's just not as sly about it
because I don't think he completely understands
how American politics work in terms of just being on the low
with how you make your money influence the fate of a country.
But I hope that he looks back on this
and is embarrassed at just not having a t-shirt
that's long enough.
Some t-shirt companies should reach out to Columbus.
I don't know.
You know one of those shirts, Gutierrez,
where they try to make husky dudes like me not feel fat.
I hate those shirts.
I mean, I wouldn't even wear one.
I don't want to show off my little belly.
No.
I hate those.
Yeah, he's just rich and bored, man.
So he's just, yeah, I'm gonna go hang out with the president
and pretend they care about Pittsburgh for a couple weeks.
I wanna play the Amici sound for Roy Wood here
on Elon Musk.
It's more serious than what he was saying, but I'd like your appraisal on this.
On another front, can I just say that I hate Elon Musk?
There are very few people in this world that I devote the energy to hate, and he, I devote energy to hate.
He's a cuckoo, and I don't understand, I don't understand why people don't recognize this.
He's a cuckoo.
He doesn't found anything or invent anything.
I'm not suggesting he's not clever, but he doesn't found anything.
He's just a cuckoo.
He arrives in a nest and pushes out the founders and then opens his gob wide and forces the
government to feed him subsidies and then flits off to another nest
and pushes out another couple of founders
and gorges on the public purse.
Do an AI image of that, why don't you?
He's just so condescending, so disgusting.
So good. So disgusted, so English.
I like when intelligent people get mad
because they use an accent and an inflection that
just suggests you're not really smart and have never been intelligent, but you're a
fool, the remedially unintelligent as well.
Can I get your opinion on some video here that we're going to play for you, using legal
tender and buying strawberries with cash?
We had British people. legal to using legal tender and buying strawberries with cash uh... we did people it has been a theme of ours during the week because yes angry british
people are funnier this way and before i get your semi sure better the weekend
before i get your thoughts on the bron and brony let's just get roy wood to
make a uh...
uh... a ruling on this paying cash for something in a cashless store
i'm gonna buy some strawberries and i'm offering exactly the right amount of money
here so you people take that money and I will take my strawberries outside.
I paid by legal tender.
No, no, no, don't break the door.
I paid by legal tender and I am going out with my squabbies.
I paid by legal tender in this dystopian place.
You should be able to spend whatever you want. This is an absolute joke.
You want one, mate?
Make a ruling, Roy.
Cash plays. Cash rules everything around us.
Thank you.
This cashless society nonsense.
Thank you.
It is discriminatory. I know we ain't got time to get in the weeds on that,
but it's straight up discriminatory. Everybody ain't got a bank account tied to a cash app or
tied to a QR code. Take the money and kiss my ass. I'm walking out. That's right. And if you
gotta take me to jail, take me to jail. That's right. Thank you. We are unified on this, sir.
Let's hold up our fists together. Except for at a professional sports stadium
because it slows down the line.
I need you to get your ass, get that chip,
put it in there and get the hell out the way.
I'm satisfied.
Thank you.
What do you got for us on Lebron and Brony?
Do we, are we really, do you all feel like Lebron
and Brony is a situation where journalists
either have to say what is supposed to be said
versus what they really see? Or is it not that big of a deal?
Because I feel like I'm the only person that's kind of fine with him, regardless of skill
set and regardless of whether or not he was ready.
We're arguing about the 10th spot on the bench, right?
That's what we're arguing about, right?
Yeah.
Like, how is that different than when some team keeps an old guy for a little longer because, well, he earned it
and we just want to keep him on the team.
If he's not producing, shouldn't he
be going for the younger person that's
more anxious and more productive than that person?
Like, this is why I hate that the conversation around nepotism
is only around athletics and politics.
If this was a blue collar job, if LeBron James
was your plumber,
and he walked in with that boy,
and they was both there to get the turd out your toilet,
you wouldn't be asking whether or not
Bronnie is qualified.
If anything, it gives you more comfort
when you hear something called such and such and sons.
You're like, oh, I like it.
That's all that family ever does.
It's turds.
If you change them to the Los Angeles LeBron and Sons,
there would be no more complaints about Ronnie.
I don't have to help me move.
Yeah, it was something similar to what happened with the Cubs
and Kyle Hendricks, with Hendricks productivity,
but you wanted to make sure that he became a tenured guy.
So they let him stay in, and also it's kind of rebuilding your expectations
for the Cubs, but let's stop acting like
you can't just have one little trick to help sell tickets.
Cause you're telling me people ain't gonna come see
the father son show?
What if the turd is still in the toilet when they leave?
That is a very good point that I have not thought about.
We are trying to sell tickets. Put it on the poll please.
Juju at Levitage Joe, are you comforted when doing business when the truck rolls up and an Anne Sons is on the side of the truck?
Nepotism is great when you need to take a dump and you can't.
Ben, it's all, oh yeah, I love Anne Sons.
We've been around for 60 years in this neighborhood.
Dry cleaner with the grandchild, eight years old,
already back there, steaming business, casual attire.
You don't have no problem with nepotism then, do you?
Your semi-sure bed of the week, every other week or so,
this is a bit inexact.
We are rolling this into the same nepotism so
Dan LeBattard the Griffys played together. Father Griffey and Junior
Griffey in 1990. That year the World Series underdogs there they are the
underdog red Cincinnati Reds shout out to Jose Rio swept the A's. Also in the
finals Jordan underdog overtook Magic ending the Lakers dynasty
and in that presidency, underdog Bill Clinton
beat George W. Bush.
So now, what do we have in 2024?
If we let sports tell the history, damn, LeBretard,
we have father son, Brian and Brian playing,
my guaranteed semi-short bet of the week,
guaranteed to come home possibly maybe.
Underdog Yankees sweep the Dodgers.
Same sorets.
Wow.
Underdog Yankees sweep the Dodgers.
I know y'all don't like to hear that.
I know Shohei's our friend and we love Shohei, America's favorite immigrant.
He's my friend too.
Sorry, Shohei.
Better luck next year.
Also, give me Anthony Davis.
Give me Ant and the Knicks sweeping sweeping Steph and the Warriors underdog.
Wait a minute.
And lastly.
So who is that though?
Carl Anthony Towns, I think.
Carl Anthony Towns.
Yeah, big, yeah, big cat, not Ant.
I'm not calling him big cat.
Let's not even get into that.
That's disrespect to some of the women that I've met at Strip Clips.
I will call him Carl Anthony Towns.
Carl Anthony Towns is the underdog, sweep the Knicks,
and give me Trump underdog over Kamala Harris
if sports is telling the story.
That is the only reason I'm saying what I just said.
So to recap, you're guaranteed, send me a short bet.
Yank sweep Dodgers, Knicks sweep Warriors,
Trump over Kamala.
Because Ron and Ronnie are playing this with me. Trump over Kamala, bold wants to be in the bad version. Because Ron and Ronnie are playing this with.
Trump over Kamala, a bold prediction.
The quiz show is called.
It's not a prediction, it's history.
Respect the history.
This is for sure possibly gonna hit.
Betting favorite right now.
The quiz show is called Have I Got News For You,
Saturday nights at nine Eastern on CNN,
then streaming Sunday on Max.
Thank you, Roy.
Appreciate it, sir sir as always.
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second Miami they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping
at the line of scrimmage.
And the only thing I wanna see clapping
are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, Mike Shirt.
All right, so that's one thing.
Stugats.
They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan.
And you know who should be cheating?
Mrs. Met on Mr. Met.
And he can watch if he wants.
This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats.
Welcome back to another edition of JenCFB.
I'm Jessica Smetana.
Lucy Rodin is out this week, so I brought in my good friend Mike Golick Jr. from Golick
and Gojo on the DraftKings Network to talk about the last week of college football and
the upcoming week of college football.
As always, we are brought to you by Cheez-It.
This season, we are feeling the cheesiest with Cheez-It.
Gojo, are are feeling the cheesiest with Cheez-It.
Go, Joe.
Are you feeling cheesy today?
I woke up feeling cheesiest, Jess,
as I do every day of my life.
Cheese, cheese, cheese.
Me too, as always.
I am so happy to have you here.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, I'm good.
It's been, we were just talking off air.
I can't believe we're already going into week nine
right now.
It's crazy to think this much
of college football season's over.
Even though with the expanded playoff, we know we go all the way to Jan 20.
So it's a wild ride that's not even really halfway over, even though it feels more than that.
It is not even halfway over, although it did feel over for a couple teams this week.
And we're going to get to the bottom of what's going on this season in college football with
a little game that Taylor made up called Questions That Need Answers.
Gojo, we're gonna ask questions.
I'm specifically going to ask questions to you
and you're going to tell us the answers
that we need to these questions.
So let's start with what was one of the biggest games
from the weekend, Georgia at Texas.
Texas gets shut out of the first half.
Georgia looks like by far the better team,
even though Kirby Smart said, we all doubted him.
Gojo, questions that need answers.
Who are all these people that doubted Georgia all season?
I guess he's probably someone who watched College Game Day.
I didn't see what the full pick tracker looked like there,
if it was all Longhorns and that or not.
But listen, I know I picked Texas in this one.
I know there are a lot of people that did say,
Texas has now come into the SEC year one
and looked like the best team.
And so it doesn't ever have to be much.
You know, these coaches are maniacs.
Jess, they're all wired to look for this advantage.
Everyone could have picked Georgia to win and Kirby Smart
still would have not only convinced himself,
but convinced that whole team that everyone doubted them.
It's the most Saban thing about him.
Yeah, it's a great motivational tactic for your team.
Georgia, their stop rate, 83%.
Seven sacks generated, 10 tackles for loss,
one interception, three forced fumbles on Texas.
It's tough to win a game when another team's defense
is doing all of that stuff to you.
And Texas, only two for 15 on third down,
one of five on fourth down.
Gojo, what did you think was the biggest difference
in this game? Was it just Georgia's front seven?
Was it Texas having a weak offensive line?
You're our offensive line guru.
Can you can you give them a grade for us?
Yeah, listen, they got pushed around a little bit up front.
I will say going back and watching it wasn't as bad as I thought.
If that makes sense, quite honestly, I thought as dominance,
maybe even more dominant was the Georgia secondary Malachi,
Starks and the rest of that group gave them nowhere to go with the football.
This Texas wide receiver room has a ton of talent.
We know they portaled into a place last year, but they confused Quinn Ubers pre
and post snap.
I thought Kirby smart in that defensive game plan were always a step ahead of
C's Sarkeesian and Quinn Ubers who Steve Sarkeesian for
my money is the best offensive play caller in college football and it just looked like they were drowning the
entire night so the offensive line didn't play great but there also weren't
a ton of options in places to go downfield that there usually are Quinn
Ubers usually has pretty good answers in the pass game just based on scheme
design but he's also usually a lot better and was before the injury at
manipulating the pocket and doing things to help out that group up front.
And so I think they all got physically and mentally over matched at the
beginning of this game showed up some in the second half, but just too little,
too late. Yeah. Another thing that happened in the second half, obviously
this very controversial moment where Texas fans threw bottles onto the field.
So, uh, here is another question that needs an answer.
How come Texas didn't get a delay of game penalty for the cleanup effort that had to
happen after they did all of that?
Stunned, I think embarrassment from the officiating crew, because while we know it
got laid out after the fact that the officials got together and decided to pick up the
flag that should have never gotten dropped in the first place, that was the source of
all that consternation, it looked like they got swayed by the crowd getting mad at them and they couldn't afford for that perception to be out there. And so
I'm sure just to try and avoid any more ire in that situation because they are human,
they might've just oopsies forgot about that. So the whole situation is a mess and sets
a really bad precedent. Even if the way they explained it does make some logistical sense,
the way it came off looking as a nightmare for the SEC.
You could say it's a slippery slope.
This is a question from Taylor Gojo.
Does if you have two quarterbacks,
do you have none apply if one is a manning?
I'm not sure.
Neither quarterback was going to win this game for Texas,
in my opinion.
But I guess, does that apply to a manning, Gojo?
I don't think it applies to a manning. That's a great questionjo? I don't think it applies to a Manning.
That's a great question.
I also don't think it applies to this team
because in this case, they have two really good quarterbacks.
They've got one of the best,
if not the best quarterback room in college football.
It was just one of those nights.
And when yours, I think part of this is still him coming back
off the injury, maybe not quite feeling like himself.
And it showed in the way that he just looked confused
for a lot of the first half of that game.
But I actually think in this case,
they have two quarterbacks in Austin.
It's just neither of them was gonna beat
that Georgia defense that it looks like when dialed in
is the best unit on either side of the ball
in college football.
Okay, you get credit for having the good question.
Thank you, Taylor.
Okay, here is an actual question that needs an answer
because Oklahoma has looked really bad this season,
especially mostly just their offense.
Like I think their defense has still been really solid.
They fired their offensive coordinator this weekend.
So who is Texas's best win going into this game
at Vanderbilt?
Is it Louisiana Monroe?
Is it General Booty's Louisiana Monroe team, Mike?
It certainly looks like it right now. I mean, you know, Mississippi State played Texas A&M a
little closer than most people expected this last weekend. The Michigan defense, I think early in
the season was still, it's still a really good talented group. They've just been so worn down
by how bad the offense is, but you're right. There's not a lot of quality on the Texas schedule.
And in fairness to them,
they made most of those teams look inferior the way they address them.
Oklahoma, we know as a rivalry game and it's a little bit different,
but it is going to be interesting from here on out.
The Vanderbilt game suddenly becomes important.
Yeah. It's going to be a big one this weekend against Vanderbilt.
I'm not, and I'm not even joking. to be a big one this weekend against Vanderbilt.
And I'm not even joking.
It's a quality win if they beat Vanderbilt.
Let's move on to another big SEC game from this past weekend.
Alabama losing at Tennessee, one of the best rivalries
in college football.
Questions that need answers.
Gojo, how old is Ryan Williams?
Isn't he 18 now?
I think he's still 17.
Is he still 17?
I was unsure.
I was like a joke.
It was a joke question, but,
cause they say it so many times.
I mean, what could said more often
that or the playoff predictor percentage
for a team getting ready to make the postseason.
I know you watched that Notre Dame Georgia Tech game.
Man, that 60% stat that they kept putting on the screen
was driving me crazy.
But okay, here's a serious question.
Jalen Milrow, the Alabama quarterback,
is this just the kind of player he is?
Is he just someone that's going to be inconsistent at times,
make mistakes at times, turn it over at times,
but then turn around and maybe have an incredible play
in the next game and make you forget about all that.
I think so.
I think we've got a big enough sample size to say that.
And especially now inside a Kaylin DeBoer offense, that's supposed to be this
place where quarterbacks can have a great time.
And we've seen Kaylin DeBoer has had great quarterback play Michael
Pennex, both at IU and at Washington, Jake Hayner at Fresno state.
And so when you've got a guy in an offense that's supposed to be
quarterback friendly unable to take advantage of a lot of those easy throws
not even the tough stuff, but you saw clean pockets where Jalen Milro
wasn't getting it done.
He just may not be the kind of guy that's going to elevate this offense
and how Alabama and Kailin DeBoer adjust to that throughout the rest of
the season kind of similar to the way Tommy Reese and them had to adjust
to him towards the end of last season to get the most out
of them and get them to the playoffs is going to determine whether or not they
make it into the expanded one. Yeah Alabama had zero explosive plays against
this Tennessee defense which I do rate very highly they're a very good unit
James Pierce had one and a half sacks one and half tackles for loss. The other
side of that Alabama's defense allowed
seven explosive plays, which I think was the real
big difference in this game.
It was a close game and that, a long pass from Nico
to set up a touchdown, like that, those explosive plays,
like that's kind of the difference when you're playing,
when two teams have offenses that are just not able
to convert a lot of stuff.
So we said last week, a key for Alabama to win this game
was no turnovers from Milro. He had a lot of turn. So, um, we said last week, a key for Alabama to win this game was no turnovers from Milro.
He had a lot of turnovers in this game, a lot of bad numbers.
And you just can't afford that. Cause your point,
the big plays against Tennessee are just going to come.
It's too much pace and space. And when you've got a quarterback,
that's actually a run threat, eventually they're going to hit in that offense.
We saw Nico airmail a lot of balls that looked more like the, um,
the Joe Milton version of the offense than the Hinden Hooker version of the
offense. So they're not firing on all cylinders. I thought Bam is defense
overall did a pretty good job, but you can't give them that many bites at the
apple. It's just not going to work out the way Josh runs that. Okay,
let's move on to another game in the big 10 USC losing its fourth Big Ten game
of the season to Maryland.
Mike, USC has now lost four of these one possession games,
this one coming at Maryland,
a Maryland team that got blown out last week by Northwestern.
Is this sort of rock bottom for Lincoln Riley right now
at USC, all bias aside?
No, it certainly feels like it.
I think, you know, people pointed out his record and the similarities between Clay Hilton and all those things that are a tough reflection.
We know Lincoln Riley, you're always going to get blue chip quarterback play and that answers the toughest question that any team in football can face is who's your quarterback and how well is he playing?
Having that steadied definitely goes a long way,
but it's all the worst fears that people had for USC
going to the Big 10,
which is they'd get embarrassed in the trenches
and that's exactly where it's happened.
And so I do think a shot at the pride.
I mean, you know, the USC teams I grew up watching
in the early 2000s were dominant
on the offensive and defensive lines.
And so to watch them now be one of the teams
moving into a new conference, getting thoroughly dunked on because that area where we had heard all the headlines
about how much weight they gained in the trenches in the off season,
you stole a D coordinator from your rival across the street,
and it doesn't seem to have paid off in any meaningful way for you so far.
Yeah, and there's all sorts of stories being written about the recruiting deficiencies
in the Southern California region and like Lincoln Riley not visiting
those schools as much as maybe some of his predecessors at USC and not recruiting well
out of California, which is something that pisses a lot of fans off, I think.
Also we've mentioned on this show before, he tends to get a little snippy sometimes
in press conferences.
Well, it's a different world now than it is in the media you're dealing with at Oklahoma.
You've got less insulation out here in a place that only cares so much to begin with about
college sports.
You've got to force Los Angeles to give a damn about this.
And right now USC is not getting that done.
Yeah, but they do host Rutgers on Friday at the same time as the Dodgers Yankees game.
So that will be an interesting one to see how many people show up for Rutgers first
in conference trip to the Coliseum.
And like all bias aside,
it's been a rough year for Lincoln Riley.
And I say that now knowing I have now jinxed Notre Dame
into losing them to them in the final game of the season.
100%, that just happened.
But Mike, it's been rough.
Okay, another big 10 game this weekend,
Illinois and Michigan.
Here is a question that needs an answer.
When did broadcast booths stop wearing cozy little cardigans with the little names like
those? Did you see what Brad Nestler and Gary Danielson were wearing? I mean they
were doing like this hundred year anniversary of Memorial Stadium thing
where they were dressed up like they were in the 1920s and they looked so
cozy. Why did we why did we get away from that?
Jess, broadcast fashion has been one of the things
I've railed against the most during my time as a broadcaster. It is criminal that we've
forsaken cozy in the name of suits that people generally see on air for maybe 40 seconds
of air time for most broadcasts that aren't the aid crew. It's a complete waste of time
tailoring and all of our money and we need to remedy that by going back to cozy season
full time. I am in full agreement there. And we need to remedy that by going back to cozy season full time.
I am in full agreement there.
This is why Al and Chris on Sunday Night Football
in quarter zips was the golden era
of television broadcasting in my opinion.
In all honesty, this is Illinois's best season
in maybe a decade.
I mean, they were good in 2022, don't get me wrong,
but I think 2001 they played in the Rose Bowl.
I think 2007 they were really good. So I'm putting this up there with one of their better seasons
in the last, like we'll say decade and a half. But Mike, do you think Illinois has an actual
shot at upsetting Oregon this weekend? Uh, no, I don't think so in particular here. I think Illinois
is kind of the meat of the big 10 bell curve, right? You get quarterback play every once in a while, though this last weekend,
they out Michigan to Michigan with Luke Altmeier going nine for 18 for 80 yards.
And somehow beating them by two touchdowns riddled me that one.
But I think this Oregon team has kind of fixed a lot of the things that ailed them
during that first four game stretch where we judge them pretty harshly.
You turn on the tape against Ohio State.
D-line is active and impressive.
Derek Harmon's been one of the best interior guys in the country. Dylan Gabriel on that
offense finally starting to make big plays more consistently downfield, targeting Evan
Stewart a little bit more. I just don't think Illinois can keep up with that kind of firepower.
Yeah, I'm with you on that one. As fun as I think it would be to see this Illini team have a big upset like
that and beat Oregon. I think Oregon is, after this past weekend, Texas, Georgia, I think
Oregon is looking like a very complete college football team right now. And I sort of like
them up until we'll see what happens in a potential Big Ten championship game. But okay,
before we move on to week nine, I do want to ask you just two more
questions. One is Indiana for real? Yes or no? Yes. Okay. Definitely. Yes. I agree. Yes. I Curtis
Rourke, I know he's going to be out for this weekend's game against Washington. College of
Game Day is going to be in Bloomington, which is a lot of fun, but I do think they are good. And I
think beating the crap out of Nebraska should not be taken for granted
Okay, last question. This is a question that needs answered that Taylor wrote down
Is Miami's best player the ACC command center Taylor? That's not very nice. I
Mean we do tend to see them a lot during Miami games. So I would say it's close
It's probably like a 1a 1b cam ward 1a ACC command center 1b
Which you'd think with how much the ACC command center's on camera, especially for that they jush it up a little bit more
It's such a weird hollow set up like it's so weird. I agree
So add space in there start to have product all around. Why isn't there? Why aren't there mascots sitting at that table do something? That's actually a great idea
They should totally do that as close as the Miami
Louisville game was and the Miami Cal game was in Miami, Virginia Tech
I think I think Miami is a better team than all three of those teams that they narrowly defeated
so I don't think that the
It cam or incomplete pass was a fumble.
I think that was probably the right call.
But it is a kind of thing where like you're playing all these teams close that are not as good as you.
You're bound to not get one of these calls at some point.
So you better start winning in higher margins in my opinion, if you're Miami.
I would agree. And that's more so, I think, for their high end hopes of being a CFP team because you're right. This is kind of uh, do you remember the
Florida state team in 2014? The first year of the college football playoff? Oh do I remember the Florida state team or the pick play?
Oh sorry. Don't get me started. Uh yeah, they were, they were winning games by one
possession all season long and we were all watching just waiting for them to
finally lose a game and it didn't happen until the end of the season.
They somehow got away with it but sometimes good teams get away with some close ones.
Oh yeah, I mean that's a long season. You need that stuff to happen. I know that from
first-hand experience. You need the ball to bounce your way and thankfully for them they've got a guy
who's probably among the quarterbacks right now. The easy leader for the Heisman Trophy and Cam Ward.
He's staring up at Travis Hunter and Ashton Genti, but he's been a guy that's made the incredible look effortless
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No, see this is what I wanna do with our show.
No, not, no, don't let Billy's team of dumb demons
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and piss all over the show, no.
Stugats.
Ian broke down everyone that was drafted
on the offensive line, except Senors
because the Jets didn't need one.
Let's have Ian go against the astrophysicist head to head
and let's see, let's put some
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You're an informed idiot or Lucy's actually smart person who doesn't know anything, but
at least we're going to choose an astrophysicist and not Taylor's roommate who's not named
Ian.
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That will bring us into our week nine preview presented by Hampton
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You mentioned Ashton Gentry.
He plays for Boise State.
They're on this weekend on Friday
against UNLV.
This is probably the biggest game
of their season.
This is two good teams.
We've got Ashton Gentry on one offense and we've got this nice little go-go
offense on the other side of the football.
What can you tell us about this kind of offensive scheme that UNLV runs?
Yeah. So the go-go offense, Brendan Marion, their offensive coordinator,
ran this in high school, ran this at a couple of stops along the way before this.
And it's the kind of creativity that generally is born from high school where youve got to figure out a bunch of smoke and mirrors to try and
manufacture big shots to go along with whats kind of a pseudo triple option attack.
We'll talk about Navy and Notre Dame at some point, its very akin to what Navy is doing
this year on offense where its got spread elements to it, you create some unique looks
to try and mess with the rules on defense all to either set up better rushing lane and opportunities
running versions of the spread option or set up big plays that are a huge
hallmark of an offense that's going to use space to. So it's been fun to see it
on the FBS level and it's been a huge key. I mean, we know you and LV it's
well documented, had the quarterback change one quarterback decides to opt
out. Hodge Malik Williams has come in and not missed a beat and really I think helped
expand this passing offense even more.
So it's a very good team that Boise is getting ready to face that they also
faced in the Mountain West title game last year. Yeah, it's going to be a good one.
There's been a lot of good Friday night games this season and this one I don't
think will disappoint either. Let's move on to Saturday.
You mentioned Notre Dame and Navy, noon game, ranked Navy
and Notre Dame at MetLife Stadium. You played against Navy like a half dozen times at Notre
Dame. You've been in all the prep meetings where Notre Dame has to transition from playing
their sort of like normal base defense to now we're going to defend the triple option.
Especially this year with Blake Horvath, who's been running it really well, has been an incredibly explosive player, someone that if you haven't watched
a lot of Navy games, go watch some highlights because he's been really, really good.
How does Notre Dame prepare for this Navy team and do you trust Notre Dame's young but
very talented linebacker group in being disciplined against this option offense.
You know they've had a lot better time with that in the last few weeks. Early in the season as a
lot of these guys as Kingston and so much of this group Drake Bowen all take over. You've seen
moments where the eyes start to wander a little bit that's even been true for Jalen Snead who's
an older player in that group relative to the rest of those guys. They've been more dialed in
lately but this is the ultimate test.
You're right because with this offense in particular,
get ready for the triple such a unique animal.
Notre Dame got them in week one last year, week zero, whatever it was.
So you had all this extra time in training camp where, hey, if you're Notre
Dame and you knew you've got two service academies on there,
I'm sure they devoted periods to this in training camp.
I'm sure they spent time over the summer.
And Al Golden and Marcus Freeman both have experience defending this in training camp. I'm sure they spent time over the summer and you know Al Golden and
and Marcus Freeman both have experience defending this at
Notre Dame, but it's still you got to go to a completely
different setup for the scout team that I was a part of and
how you approach this offense and the defense and preparing
for the cut blocks that come up front in the box. Now, I will
say biggest change by far. You can't cut at the second level
anymore. So for Notre Dame receivers or for secondary DBs, they gotta have a big day because they
no longer have to worry about their legs getting taken out.
But it's a complete 180.
You've got to reteach even the scout team how to go out here and execute an offense
that's foreign to them.
So everybody, especially the guys on defense though, have a lot to adjust for and offensively
you've got to get used to the fact that your possessions if Navy gets rolling can be few and far between and you've
got to simultaneously try and go and execute without squeezing the wheel too
tight but also understand that making big plays getting out early against this
team in particular is at such a premium. That is absolutely my biggest concern
with this Notre Dame offense is that if they get out to a sluggish start, like they did against Georgia Tech this past weekend, going,
you know, three and out in the first series,
and then you only get three more possessions in the half while Navy just sort
of like slow bleeds you and marches your defense down the field.
It's going to be tough to get that back and to get that back with explosive
plays, which has been in the passing game, Notre Dame's biggest weakness.
And if you're this day, and if you haven't watched Navy in a while,
this isn't your dad's Navy team either.
Drew Kronick, the offensive coordinator,
was the head coach at Mercer last year,
came over and has added more of a spread element.
Blake can throw the rock.
Like, Blake Horvath, their quarterback, is fast,
which I think is the most important thing
for an optioned quarterback.
He's incredibly decisive, and he's got an arm.
So you've got to defend every phase against this team that's going to maybe
not just bleed it out in the same wishbone that you're used to.
They're going to give you more of the window dressing and their quarterback is
a playmaker.
What was that? Chris Cody, which family member is it though?
If it's not your dad's Navy, which family member is it? Oh, that's probably like
your weird cousin that went to arts, like like a liberal arts college and like got into some like weird
Experimental stuff because it is a little bit more like when you think of the service academies
Air Force has always been a little bit of the freakier one where they'll do a little bit more pre snap stuff than army and Navy
And so now Navy is trying to match their freak a little bit. Thank you Chris for that. Yes, Taylor
But record wise this is probably closer to
like your grandfather's Navy. Yeah for sure. Well your grandfather's Navy was overseas
fighting in World War II probably. And actually your grandfather's Navy is the reason why
Notre Dame plays Navy because of that whole World War II thing. But let's this is a tangent
that we don't need to get down. Yeah I I'm, as a Notre Dame fan. Terrified.
Terrified, absolutely terrified.
I won't try to hide it.
Number eight, LSU at number 14 Texas A&M this weekend.
Texas A&M's gotten a lot of these tough games
on their schedule at home this year.
But okay, LSU, maybe we didn't write them off
in week one when they lost to USC,
but we maybe forgot about them for a little bit.
Garrett Nussmeyer has been playing really, really well, especially under pressure.
According to True Media, he's been pressured on 64 of 287 dropbacks and only been sacked
one time.
That will be going against a Texas A&M pass rush.
That has been excellent all season long, Mike.
LSU's defense on the other side of the ball, they can create a lot of havoc.
I don't know if you've been watching LSU linebacker Whit Weeks the past couple weeks, but he is playing out of his
mind and they can create a lot of havoc and sack you, tackle you. He can play in coverage, force
fumbles. He can do everything. So this is going to be a huge game for the SEC standings, but I
I'm curious who you have in this one because I'm a little torn right now.
I would probably lean LSU. I think Garrett Nussmeyer is honestly what people expected Connor Wegman to be.
And you know, we know he got off to a rough start with Notre Dame, was hurt for a little bit, came back and has played better.
But even last week against Mississippi State through two interceptions and could have easily been more with some of the balls he put out there.
I think it's going to be interesting for them.
You mentioned that LSU defense,
that's probably the biggest surprise for me with this team.
They were the focus coming into this season,
struggled a little bit week one and have been pretty banged up at the linebacker
level lost Harold Perkins, which is why the WIT Weeks phenomenon has grown.
Him, Braden Swinson, the defensive front seven for LSU has actually gotten after opposing offensive lines, messed up opposing backfields.
Like go turn on the Ole Miss game.
They won that game in the trenches bullying an Ole Miss team that was
supposed to be loaded up on both sides of the ball there.
Defensively, Ole Miss showed up and showed out.
That group looked awesome.
But I think offensively for LSU, huge boost, Caden Durham, the running back, true freshman running back,
who really has been their lead guy since week three,
over a hundred yards in multiple touchdowns this last week.
Them having a rushing attack and a D-line
can get after people, not what most people saw
and left behind in week one, to your point,
and a big reason why I think they can win this game.
You convinced me.
I'm going LSU in this one.
Sorry, Kyle Field.
You are going to experience your second,
Taylor shaking his head because he's,
he's just like a Kyle Field stand for some reason.
Believer, yes.
Okay.
I will say, if you are a Kyle Field believer,
the one thing that we've seen happen a lot
this college football season,
home crowds at raucous stadiums drawing a lot of penalties.
They should just throw some bottles on the field
anytime they don't like a call and then we'll be good.
That's kind of where we've arrived
in college football right now.
If you don't like it, we need the must,
I mean, again, no one should do that.
Please don't do that.
But if you are, at least have the mustard bottle
as a callback so that we can remember
the Ole Miss Tennessee feel experience like that.
Okay, before we go, Mike,
Commodore's, Longhorns.
Go doors, but Texas wins.
Yeah, no, Texas is probably gonna throttle these guys.
Go door, like it'd be awesome to see.
Love Clarkley, but I don't think this is gonna work out
for them.
All right, well that was this week's edition
of Jennifer College Football.
Mike, thank you so much for joining.
It was a blast.
We'll have you back on sometime.
Eat some peanuts. Thanks guys. Have some Cheez-Its, it was a blast. We'll have you back on sometime. Eat some peanuts.
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