The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Another Big Moment for Dallas

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

After attempting to undermine Tony's bit for as long as possible, we finally get to his Top 5 'Where Were You' Games in NBA History. Plus, Greg Cote recounts watching the Wilt Chamberlain 100-point ga...me on a Sylvania and tells us why he loves cleaning his toilet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Have we established what the hell Tony's talking about when he says where were you games in NBA history? Where were you games in NBA history? Where are the where were you things in American history? Space shuttle exploding, assassination attempts.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Washington's funeral. First man on the moon. So you're saying five. You've got five. With some Ola sprinkling. Last night was not that. So you're saying five. You've got five. With some oil eyes sprinkled in. Last night was not that. Lexington and Oxford. Can't last night just be, it was really cool.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It was, you believe you, Luca. Like Luca, that seemed genuine last night. But it's not like a, I'm not going to remember last night when like, I'm like, my grandkids, you'll never, ah, Luca, he was, he got teary-eyed. That's a tell your grandkids moment. That's a completely separate list. That's another list, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:26 But that's a where were you. No, it's the same list. The tell your grandkids in a where were you moment are the exact same thing. Not even the most memorable thing that happened in sports last week. Thank you, Mike. Messi?
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, yeah. Lionel Messi, doing great things, coming back from a crazy aggregate deficit. They lost the first leg at LAFC 1-0, and then in the first 10 minutes of that game last night, they went down 1-0, which not only put them behind on aggregate 2-0, but it gave LAFC something that Inter Miami hadn't had, which was a road goal.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So to win that game in advance of the semi-finals of the CONCACAF Champions Cup, they needed to win that game against a good LAFC team 3-1. And I know Messi catches some crap sometimes because his style, he walks around, what's so hard? Not last night. 96 minutes of that dude trying his damnedest. All game long. That dude cared last night and he put that team on his shoulders.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It was a wonderful game. Honestly, hand to God, among the most fun soccer games I've experienced. Where were you game? I was on my caption. There was a where were you game. That's a soccer though, that's a different list. That's a completely different list.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know I love soccer, I'm a soccer sicko. This is a tell your grandkids game. I'm a soccer sicko. There's something about this competition in particular which is really difficult for American teams to win. It's been around since the 1960s. It's really mattered here in the United States for probably 30 years.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And famously, Mexican teams always win it. It is really difficult to win this competition because randomly you'll have something that happened a couple of weeks ago, which is, in Miami and your whole team, you gotta go over to Jamaica and play on a rough pitch and in weird conditions that you're not used to. It really challenges those MLS teams. This one was an MLS team against an MLS team, no doubt. A good MLS
Starting point is 00:03:13 team against another good MLS team. I don't understand why he cared so much. Doesn't that validate the naysayers that it's so palpable? It's like, oh, that's what that looks like when it's like, you don't see that all the time. No, I understand. And there was a really funny moment around like minute 94 where you're screaming at your TV. What are you guys doing? Just hold the ball. There was like a three man weave of Jordi Alba,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Luis Suarez and Leo Messi is three on one. And they're gassed. They got nothing. And in 2015, that would have like been a surefire goal. In 2025, it's just hilarious to watch when those guys are on fumes. But the effort was there all night. That is a massive undertaking.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, they get lucky with a handball in the box that draws a pen. Messi takes a brilliant pen against Hugo Lloris. And that's in the 86th minute, though, right? Yeah, no, and keep in mind, like, Messi had contributed. He had scored on a free kick that they called back because he took it too quickly. And he had scored on a free kick that they called back because he took it too quickly.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And he had scored, he had assisted on a Luis Suarez header because Suarez was a bit offside. So he scored a wonderful goal, a goal that few people in the planet can still do right now with how he dribbled through traffic. It was, this was what you wanted to see when Leo Messi came over to the United States was him put an MLS team just on his back and decide,
Starting point is 00:04:28 you know what, I'm that much better than everybody. I'm not gonna let my team lose today. It was awesome. Can we talk, Greg, as a, I don't know why it is you're leaning back from the microphone. This would seem to be the Greg Cody wheelhouse if he actually cared about the soccer the way that he did in the 1800s when he covered the Fort Lauderdale strikers here in town in a stadium near the one where Messi the greatest in the world greatest
Starting point is 00:04:50 Ever plays now what Mike is saying there. It's not near it's the same spot Very near there. It's moved. It's sunk since that incredibly near there right on it So many are saying it's right on top of that area, but this is a game that prior to Yesterday Greg you were arguing that this might arguably be the biggest game in inter-miamis history I was because last year in this same tournament. It's a notable international tournament. I mean, it's not the World Cup It's not it's a regional tournament. It's not one that was just microwave like the league's cup. It's a big tournament last year They lost in this round. Now they're in the in the semi-finals. But I was leaning back literally agreeing with and sort of nodding my head at what you were saying
Starting point is 00:05:33 about Messi. It's almost unfathomable to say because he's arguably the the most famous athlete in the world. I think at this stage in his career he's under regarded. He's taken for granted in a way. How American sports fans think of Tom Brady and LeBron James, the examples of the ageless wonder, that's Lionel Messi in soccer right now. Well can I though, as we partake in watching the age of mastery here, the thing that Mike is talking about, okay, wherever it is that soccer hasn't grabbed hold with America wherever it is that messy behind the paywall and Apple isn't showcasing this the greatest genius you've ever seen in this sport for everybody when Mike talks
Starting point is 00:06:16 about the chemistry of two and three gas dudes who have played forever and can manipulate the system because they're so much better than these particular guys that even guess the three of them have the chemistry to be like you guys who are aficionados. Oh look at the old guys doing the tricky things at the end here that actually saved the season even though 96 minute is nuts Messi's got to be exhausted. Oh he was dude he wasfully exhausted. They don't have the legs that they used to. And MLS will rightfully catch a lot of crap. But it is an athletic league. There are big, strong, fast dudes in this league that are faster than Messi. But I do agree with Greg
Starting point is 00:06:56 that Messi is under regarded right now because, as you'll see in international competitions even next year, dollars and donuts, he's among the top 10, top 15 attacking players still on the planet right now. People are right to hold against him that he's doing this presently in MLS. That being said, when he goes away on international break and plays for his country, he is still the talisman for that. He is still every bit the messy that we saw a year and a half ago. He is still the talisman for that. He is still every bit the messy that we saw a year and a half ago. You can't say he's under regarded. I haven't really seen a drop off in his form when he's healthy. You could say that, well, he's less available,
Starting point is 00:07:37 that isn't an ability, but he was just dynamite last night. And the thing that really jumped off for a player that is often scrutinized about his effort level because of how he approaches the game I would argue he's always been smart about it conserving his energy that was not the case it was palpable the desperation and it's pretty cool because it's not like we're yeah Sue gots will criticize him saying soccer is dead and there might be people that only pay attention on the media side to have a go at him for not winning this trophy but the fact, he's won two trophies already in his two seasons down here in Miami. Quietly also, and Moss got asked about this, there
Starting point is 00:08:16 is ambiguity surrounding whether or not he's going to be back with a team next year. Horay Moss is being asked these questions. His contract allows for that ambiguity right now. He's won two trophies, there's only two other trophies available to him. He's in the semifinal of one. And I guess MLS, what'll happen is we'll just play Whack-a-Mole and the one trophy that's not left for him to win will be the one that we'll decide is the most important.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But I will say, historically, four great MLS teams, the toughest trophy to win is the competition he was playing in last night. Now he caught, I don't think it's a break because Vancouver's had a really difficult path in this competition, but he doesn't have to play Pumas, doesn't have to go to Mexico, but he will have to play a semi-final leg in Vancouver and then fly all the way back to get to the final, which will undoubtedly be against a Mexican team. Yeah, when I say he's under regarded, what I mean is even when they signed him two years ago,
Starting point is 00:09:09 I think it was reasonable to think, all right, he's coming here as an end-of-career vacation. You know, he's not the player he once was. We're gonna see a less Messi than the world has seen. It's not. Lessy. Lessy. But I don't think, as with LeBron right now, as with Tom Brady late in his career, I don't think that the diminishment of his game is all that palpable. No, no it's not. And for me the most encouraging thing about this entire experiment is Busquets was suspended last night, he was living and dying. Suarez
Starting point is 00:09:43 cared. Jordi Alba cared. Mess Messi cares. Walking off the pitch, I saw Olivier Giroud for LAFC. I'm like, he played? Like, I had no idea. Oftentimes, this is a league where people just go to coast and retire and Messi could have done that after winning the World Cup. It was the one thing that people were holding against him and he did it on the grandest stage. He carried his team in an all-time game. He comes over here, he doesn't have to care that much. He's at the end of his career and he freaking cares and it was really cool to see. Yeah and he played 90 minutes in the previous game in the MLS match a
Starting point is 00:10:14 few days before that which sort of surprised me. I thought they were going to save him for the CCC match but he so he wasn't rested which is the argument against Messi is that they rest him too much I think he missed at least a dozen games last season. Lessie. But but he wasn't arrested Messi but he was a brilliant Messi. And it delivered on all the crazy CONCACAF Champions Cup antics fouls that would be red cards anywhere else on the planet or were warnings were yellows he absolutely got pulverized it was a salt that happened on that pitch
Starting point is 00:10:49 when he had a counter-attack that would have been a surefire goal this dude Marlon just absolutely flattened him it led to a scuffle on the field it was it was really compelling dramatic stuff that maybe half a percentage of our audience even knew how to find well Well, I would say beyond that, that the audience has been desperately waiting for Tony's Where Were You games as you guys talked about a game last night that people watching last night are, where do I get this magical game that's behind a paywall? You, seeing Mike Ryan and Greg Cody finally get to talk together about a soccer game last night as Tony waited patiently for them to stop droning So that he could talk about the most Latin of sports
Starting point is 00:11:35 Basketball. Thank you, Dan. Finally, that's what everybody's watching last night in a where were you moment? This is something that's the next generation of the NBA you moment. This is something that's the next generation of the NBA. Luca is on the Mount Rushmore of this next generation. And in 10, 15, 20 years, we're going to look back and be like, damn, I remember when the Mavs traded Luca to the Lakers and then he won four championships, whatever, like whatever that history ends up being. I'll remember the trade. Not last night. No, you're going to remember the night he went back to the train. No Dallas,
Starting point is 00:12:03 Dallas remembers that. That is an incredible point, Chris. I will 100% more vividly remember being in my house getting the Shams bomb on my phone, being like, babe, you gotta see this. Not to undercut your list though, go ahead. It feels like it's been undercut. Let's narrow the list. Let's say of all of the moments of this NBA season,
Starting point is 00:12:24 we'll include future games that haven't been played yet Think crazy things that could happen in the playoffs. We will remember this game right Tony this Give no this year for sure, but in this game it will live in What will you remember more the trade or the game? I remember him sitting up at the scoreboard looking up at the tribute video with tears in his eyes But you'll remember you'll remember that more vividly than the shocking yes because Because I was asleep during the trade Because the baby you remember when you woke up. Yeah, I do remember but the game I have more burned in my memory
Starting point is 00:12:55 I'm crying you were you were in your bed. I was in my bed crying. I mean not crying the baby I was yeah, I never has a bit been more undercut than we are doing. It's okay. It's welcome to my life But here hold on no no hold on hold on hold on I already forgot what Billy's not even here Never has a bit been more undercut than we are doing. It's okay. It's welcome to my life Hold on. No, no, hold on. Hold on. I already forgot what Billy's not even here Hold on. I shut up Mike in Miami. This guy doesn't watch hoop So we should watch a game watch a game you watch it on your third TV in silence The third TV is the same size as a second TV. You've told us you're not a fan. It's not for you This is not for you fair enough. He's a fan and It's not for you. This list is not for you. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:13:26 He's a fan. And Tony, I'm trying to help you because I agree. No, I know you are, thank you. You probably won't remember this in 10 years where you were, but of this season, you'll remember it. Did you know that Doug Christie's a coach of the Kings? You didn't just call Jess a ball watcher. Yeah, she watches hoops, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:41 She does. I mean, I am quite literally a ball watcher, Dan. Guilty. Jessica was delighted. The sinister glee on her face to think that you think that last night was one of the top five most historic moments that we will all remember forever when nobody agrees with you and you're getting ganged up on and she was just happy to lure you a little further
Starting point is 00:14:11 into the pit. Please tell them more about how last night was all time memorable. No, you're wrong. Nothing sinister happening. I'm trying to help Tony out because in a room full of people that admit they do not watch this sport and they are not fans of it,
Starting point is 00:14:23 they're trying to undercut something that was a meaningful moment for basketball fans. I agree with you. Of this season, it's a top five where were you moment. But he's making it an all time NBA where were you moment. There are several people in this room that can attest. There was one person that called out trapping the ball screen in the national championship game.
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Starting point is 00:18:18 All right. All I Lucas returned to Dallas. The fact that it's an all I like, let me do my thing. Number two. I'm like this. You guys didn't let me do my thing. Number two. I'm like, no man, you let me do my thing. Did you know about Doug Christie? That's crazy. You know, Max Christie not related to Doug Christie. Max Christie having a really good year for Dallas.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't know who that is. In the trade. Oh, wait, no. He was a guy with a nameplate. Because you didn't watch the game last night. Because you don't watch the damn games. Mike, you have no idea. Max Christie had his nameplate removed
Starting point is 00:18:42 while he was giving an interview. Yeah, I know that guy. OK. So he was on the Lakers. He got traded as part of the package now He's in Dallas good young player by the way, but Chrissy loves sex. Oh I number whatever all watch Kobe's 81 point game That got regulated ESPN 2 because the Warriors were going for the win record and ESPN decided Kobe's game
Starting point is 00:19:06 Not his 81 point game, no the no that you're talking about the Toronto one No, yeah, I'm talking about Toronto back in the day. Sorry did not get regulated How many did he have in his final game 81-point game? Oh, no More than that in a second. Okay Kobe's final game 60 points final game 2016 it was a where were you moment. It was the moment that alright, Kobe, it's finally done, come off the Achilles tear, score 60, they let him
Starting point is 00:19:31 lay out and shoot a million times, he gets there, and then obviously we know what happens as part of his legacy. Very sad. That's a whole another where were you moment. I was in Thailand by the way when that happened, when Kobe passed away. That's another list of another time. Different than what you'll tell your grandkids. I'll tell them like I was in Thailand and I woke up to my phone exploding at four o'clock in the morning in Thailand and I was like what happened? What happened? Kobe died. Kobe passing away is a I know exactly where I was moment. No doubt. Driving back from Orlando. It was pretty crazy that ESPN decided the Warriors going for the regular season win record that gets on ESPN one Kobe's final game ESPN to
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oli number whatever Kobe's Achilles game where he tears the Achilles goes back to goes back to the free throw line Sinks to free throws Dan games to Kobe. Oh, yeah, three Kobe's situations. Yeah, the Oli. Well, yeah two games number five Another Kobe game, but not for this reason. Okay, 2004 Western Conference semis the Derek Fisher point for lefty shot. Oh, yeah, that was a After Duncan had just won the game exactly. There's gonna be a good list if we're including postseason But no one knows where they were like I remember that game, but I don't remember I was I don't remember where I was Bad for you. I remember where I was for all these games. I don't remember where I was bad for you. I remember where I was for all these games I was in the stands like living with my grandparents
Starting point is 00:20:59 But like that doesn't you might not I don't remember where you were when LeBron won in 2016 Yeah, yes, I don't think I do. Yeah I was that world of beer, and I was so pissy Was that bruiser room the Kendall one yeah? That was I was so bad. Oh my god dream on you idiot. I know it was Bo campers not bruiser room number four important distinction D Wade's this is my house game I remember the game Don't know where I was. Make remember where you were Game I was watching the game at home I remember watching the game and I can't believe they left Kevin Love on an island against Steph and he held his own
Starting point is 00:21:56 This is just a memorable games list Where were you during the D way game? No, are you there? I don't remember No, I don't remember. No, I don't remember where I was at any of these times. They are all memorable games. I was at home. Thank you. Okay, now you're playing the game correctly.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But when Kobe died, I think, because I don't know what month it was, so I may have this wrong. January. Okay, so I was at- It was the week of Super Bowl week in Miami. So I remember I was on a flight to Miami with Charlotte, and we were sitting next to each other,
Starting point is 00:22:24 and I was like, whoa. I don't remember everyone was like, I think I'm on a flight to Miami with Charlotte and we were sitting next to each other and I was like whoa Everyone was like I think I'm coming down with something. I Was it we all had kovat? I was at a garbage dump Hmm. Yeah, I was throwing away a Christmas tree when I learned that yeah, you don't just chuck it outside in the front of your house No, I was in a place that collects trees so that you're not just doing that to them. No, but they do that Arcane detail littering. Well, that's you remember What do you mean? It's our county doesn't pick it up some some hillbilly down in home said well See that's believable when you make up something like that people will believe you because it's so specific
Starting point is 00:22:58 But I do but I thought that was the point of what we were doing not just Tony's home every time. I mean, you know, number three NBA finals, game six, the Ray Allen game. I wasn't home there. I was at a Hooters. I was at kegs out. Oh wow. Classic spot. I went there for many a dude. He played playoff games. I was in a Hooters in Daytona beach cause I was coaching a kids team and me and all the coaches went out after to catch the game, found it at Hooters. And then we went to ale house right after that dance. I wasn't home. That was a dark period. That fourth, like when we fell behind that was in my bedroom with all the lights off with my
Starting point is 00:23:32 sheets. You don't want to see my face. Where were you? Where were you? I remember exactly. That's the first one. I was, where it was. Get those fire up, son! We're flying. I was in the stands tweeting at how bad Miami fans were from moving early. That's the first one you've said where I'm like, okay, that's a where were you. I know where Sugats wasn't. He was outside trying to get back into the arena because he was one of those people who had left early after several seasons of scalping his ticket.
Starting point is 00:24:04 See, that's the first one Tony actually remembers where I was The thing is I was outside of my house Chris is on to you. This is a memorable games Who doesn't a nail house? Try County area. They're mostly Independently, so we don't have to worry about the bankruptcy one because I can tell you that Doral one ain't going Yeah, I don't even want the last no no no there's two more. There's two more Ben. You want these? I don't it's this number two number two the game to save the blueprint 2012 in Boston game 645 from LeBron with the scowl Dan. Where were you? I was at Bobby's house. Okay, or I was keg South
Starting point is 00:24:38 I don't boy. Come on. I was at my buddy Tommy's house Okay, watching the game at Tommy's house on his couch We were terrified because the blueprint was over Dan. I listened to you that day You said the blueprint's over if they lose and I was very worried. My father did the strangest thing that night I have ever seen him do Because I was there and I was sitting on his couch With my girlfriend and my father who got so nervous that while he was watching during all of that for reasons I will not be able to explain to this day in the living room just dropped his pants and was standing there in his underwear
Starting point is 00:25:12 Huh, he just got scared nervous all he fans. That was all of his house But why do I why do I remember that because my father for some reason was in his tidy white He's just in the fourth quarter scared most scared. I've ever been leading up to a game in my entire life. I straight up haven't been able to shit the same way since Did you ever say dad? Why did drop your pay? We all did we all did his house though Greg Yeah, poor girlfriend. Wait, you all dropped your pants We all All of Miami was that scared I'm afraid I'm gonna shit myself. I'm a full. I'm afraid that my insides there's going to be an evacuation
Starting point is 00:25:52 Let me drop my pants. Perhaps that will solve things Maybe maybe and you guys will remember this more than I will but after game six where Ray Allen hits that shot going back to number three for a second, on the way back from Daytona Beach, I was listening to the show the entire time, and you guys were stoking fear in every Heat fan's heart. And I think Chris Cody went to go pick up Bill Simmons and bring him back, because he did an hour that day,
Starting point is 00:26:18 because he was coming to the game, game seven. I drove my mom's car, because my car, I was like, I can't pick up Bill Simmons in my car. Yeah, we all said, you pick up bill simmons in your car Mom I need your car today gotta pick up bill simmons another were were you situation alright number one of the where were you games? malice at the palace I Was home Were you and that happened that's what 2003 doesn't for
Starting point is 00:26:40 when that happened. That's what, 2003? 2004? Or like 11? I was watching my brother-in-law's district playoff game. Wow. I wasn't even watching the game. And then I, this is like, I looked it up in my Metro PCS.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm like, what is, how can I find clips of this? This was a top three with filler. It was fat. And it was just a memorable games list. And I didn't know where you were. That was a wonderful stroll down memory lane. It was. I'm not going to say. I love that. All right, Greg, you were. That was a wonderful stroll down memory lane. It was, I'm not gonna say anything.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I love that. All right, Greg, you go. Nothing to cough at. How did you get Mike's support but completely lost mine in the span of this list, Tony? It's more heat stuff, I think. Just guys being dudes. Jessica was so happy at the start of this segment
Starting point is 00:27:17 and you took it from her. She was just... I did. You know what? I didn't understand that the list would invoke when basketball was actually good. I have one I saw the vision right you see the vision
Starting point is 00:27:29 Greg Cody has won. I think we should all get out of the way and well just interrupted because I said in his ear Do you have any we could go to he's like I have one In his ear I'm like you have a few we could go to and then on air and he interrupted Mike He's just like I have a couple that I could say I was thinking of one when Tony was doing it and I don't blame him for not putting it on the list because I'm the only one in this room who was alive at the time, but Where were you moment when Nate Smith's invented the rules of basketball? Will Chamberlain's 100-point game I was seven years old you don remember that. In Hollywood, Florida at 1440, watching on a black and white Sylvania television set.
Starting point is 00:28:08 This is a great story here. No. Because nobody believes that game happened. It's a hundred point game. And it did happen. Jack? Well, you know. I thought it was like famously not televised.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I think he's. Jack. Might be making this whole thing up. No. I don't think there's Jack might be making this whole thing up. No, I don't think I don't think there's proof of him scoring. Like I don't think we have seen video proof of him scoring the 100. Have we? Yeah, it was it was he held up a sign after the game.
Starting point is 00:28:37 No, but that's not the same. That's all. I think it's a Mandela effect going on. Yeah, Jessica. I think that you think that's a conspiracy. I think it wasn't televised I don't think there's a lot of video of that game I think there's just like one grainy photograph or something. I'm just telling you I watched it on TV No, but I don't trust you couldn't have watched it on TV Library of Congress the amazing performance wasn't televised and there's no videotape of the game only a Philadelphia radio station broadcast
Starting point is 00:29:04 You're full of it You're just making that out memory. Maybe it's a figment of my imagination No, I bet sin bad and obviously Shazam movie we're all revealing we did not listen to Pablo's episode about this no doubt no doubt I Guarantee you you all remember where you were the first ever XFL game, too No, I remember What was on the television? I don't remember don't? No, I remember watching it. I remember what was on the television.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I don't remember where I physically was. Like I remember he hate me and all that stuff. Yeah. That I remember, but I don't know where I was. Ryan Clement and I made it. Hot tub. I cannot. Look, forgive me because I need to stop everything that we're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:29:40 We need to stop everything that we're doing. As badly as I've wanted all show to get to greg kody and how much he enjoys cleaning his toilets which i do want to get to i don't want to skip past what just happened which is that greg kody just falsified a total memory and was caught live on air remembering a story i have one that he doesn't have that it was a fake story that cannot be true that was
Starting point is 00:30:03 immediately refuted and so he's arguing that he's remembering something that he doesn't have, that it was a fake story, that cannot be true, that was immediately refuted, and so he's arguing that he's remembering something that he can't remember. Well, it was real in my mind. Doesn't mean anything. No, it was. I mean, it means a lot these days. Yeah, thank you. Tiger's first Masters win, Tiger's last Masters win.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It was the last Masters, yeah. Both of those, where were you moments? I remember the lasters. In one year after Wilt scored 100 points in a game, JFK was assassinated, another big moment for Dallas. In one year after Wilt scored a hundred points in a game JFK was assassinated Another big moment for Dallas. Where were you and and I was let home from elementary school early I don't believe anything you're saying because of the tragedy. No, I know my story was patently false I wouldn't joke about about an assassin. You weren't joking about will chamber.. No I wasn't, I believe that I saw that game
Starting point is 00:30:46 on a Sylvania black and white set. It's a Sylvania detail that, it's got a shot. It was one of those big console things where the. Oh it wasn't a flat screen? No, I'm kidding. I know that's what. And oddly enough my dad also dropped his pants during that game, but seriously.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Wild Bill. No, I dropped his pants during that game. But seriously. Wild Bill. No, I remember the JFK assassination game. I also remember the Red Sox game. What game? I mean the... It was not a game. The first video game. I remember the Red Sox Cardinals game in 1967 in the World Series.
Starting point is 00:31:20 They also let us watch that game on TV. Is he on pills? Yeah, I don't know what's happening He sat in the I he sat in the lounge That's an Asian game He just some on me. He just summoned a memory that is not a memory No on it. It's a memory Greg might be a false memory, but it's a memory. That's his and you can't take it Thank you. I can take it and I will take it on the mark. He's right
Starting point is 00:31:41 and you can't take it from him. I can take it and I will take it from him. He's right. Greg, you saw a photo of Will Chamberlain holding up the sign, a famous photo of him holding up a sign with a piece of paper that said 100 on it and you've conjured a memory from that that does not exist because you just remember your childhood television.
Starting point is 00:31:57 The Big Dipper. I think that was Will Snickman. Yeah, he's right about that. He is, he's the Big Dipper. That's my bad. Yeah, and if it wasn't it should have been No, I vividly remember Sylvania remember watching that game. What game was on the Sylvania then?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Vivid you vividly remember it. Yeah, I do. Do you remember where you were when Dale died? Who? Oh Dale Earnhardt. Yeah I was watching the the race from home I was watching the the race from home And I remember the year after that the Herald actually sent me to Daytona to cover the race because he had died the previous year Yeah, do you remember the John Hinkley Hinkley shooting Ronald Reagan game? I do I do not I remember Chapman or whatever his name is killing John Lennon
Starting point is 00:32:43 Outside that was a crazy game. Yeah. Put it on the poll, Juju, at Lebatard Show. Do you like cleaning your toilet? Oh, god, who doesn't? We can't do this without Stugats, right? I mean, I got to do it. What's happened to Stugats?
Starting point is 00:32:54 He decided that he didn't want to play. Where is Stugats? Juju, all the way here. It's strange. Yes. I hope he feels better. Why do you like cleaning your toilet? Because it's the small pleasures in life
Starting point is 00:33:06 that satisfy me the most. And cleaning a toilet, this began when my wife was critical of the state of the bowl that I would leave. Oh God. And so I bought one. That's a sentence. Oh my God. No, but look, he said he was good around the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Look, Jessica, we have done. It's human. No. I'm a human being. The state of the bathroom. Look, Jessica, we have done. It's human. No. I'm a human being. The state of the bowl. Yes. That is a sentence. Jessica, I'm with you on this.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Keep in mind, the Cody's are kind of disgusting, okay? And we aired and did something that was as bad as anything that we have done on television since being on television, which is without knowing how and why they are so gross we made the judgment one day of just showing a bowl that uh... greg had left for his wife that she was complaining about those things shouldn't be televised we should not have televised it it was difficult with disgusting but the codies are so disgusting that they are not discussed how i think i have reached a point for a lot of the media where it
Starting point is 00:34:03 like sixty years ago, Wilt Chamberlain has this famous basketball game not on TV. But now in 2025, Greg Cote talking about the state of the toilet bowl is something that's televised. I was going to say, because you have people that clean your house, so you're not cleaning toilets. They're there once a week.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And I bet you they've been stuck with some of these toilets because Greg doesn't mind leaving a toilet that way. Well, that was the old me. me Wow now that I love cleaning a toilet I've adopted it almost as a hobby if we're being real I bought one of those Libman Brands, please stop making that gesture. What was that? That's what I call them You're sitting next to me right now the thing with the Stiff my door still the. Still the same gesture.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Be careful. Yeah. I mean, it's just satisfying. It really is. And then that bowl sparkles. And that's something your mother was getting on me about. There's an incredible toilet bowl hack that we can teach you with Fabuloso.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Really? Yeah, you put it in the tank. You cut out a little hole near the top of the bottle. It's called eat more fiber. I don't take shortcuts. Okay. I believe in doing the wand myself, cleaning what I've left. Sparkles that bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's called try probiotics. Probiotics. Whatever, amateur biotics. Make it NIL now. I prefer cleaning my own toilet. I really do. And I'm proud of it. NIL deserve better than that.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You were doing that to Cody, right? Yes. Yeah, my joke was funny. Yeah, you were good, Jess. Greg, does anyone listening to this like to clean a toilet? It's satisfying. Absolutely not. I would like it at the painting a room. Okay
Starting point is 00:35:49 I hate to pay people to do that. No Look how good my list was now, huh? Jessica he does not realize and neither does his son that he's disgusting Because I clean a toilet What's the say to your bowl? Always clean. Okay. I make sure of it. You know how you've done what I heard Wait a minute. What is it? Did you hear from the same person you watch the Wolf Chamberlain game? What is it? Did you hear from the same person you watched the Will Chamberlain game?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Silvania I have an inside source. Yep, really you and my wife are talking about how I leave the bowl. I I'm happened No prying necessary she volunteering it And you know it how is it possible That Greg Cody is claiming to remember a game that was not televised? Like I cannot make up how ridiculous that is and that he's sitting here still believing it like resolution. Yeah, I do. Like, Resolute Slovenia. I may be mistaking it for another game because at that time in my life I was a big Celtics
Starting point is 00:37:03 fan. Okay, Bob Cousy John have Lecheck Bill Russell bona fides Those are the those are the days that other than following Carly Stremski and the Red Sox Yeah, and Willie Mays and the Giants say hey kid those 60s Celtics Because I was born in Massachusetts Raised me on sports, made me love sports. Before we get out of here for the day today,
Starting point is 00:37:28 something I failed to do in my poor coverage of the national championships in basketball where I just complained about how terrible the game was instead of celebrating, you know, whatever, a championship was decided by an arbitrary measurement in March. you know, whatever, a championship was decided by an arbitrary measurement in March. The idea that we have not talked about
Starting point is 00:37:50 my just rabid, rabid rage and then enjoyment of seeing Jim Nance lose at the end because he's had enough success, I felt bad about that. I didn't like looking inside of myself and being like Jim Nance's life has been charmed enough. I don't need to have Houston win the championship here. And I'd be okay with even Florida winning it
Starting point is 00:38:12 because Jim Nance does not need to win anymore. Well, Jim Nance is winning. This is the farewell for Jim Nance at Augusta. And I don't know how you guys are bracing for when that day comes 11 years from now. It's gonna make me very sad when that day comes, but in the meantime, I noticed earlier today that the chairman of Augusta looks like BJ
Starting point is 00:38:31 from Righteous Gemstones in 50 years. And that has made me laugh all day. Have you ever heard in your entire life of an 11 year retirement plan? Guys, it's BJ. Picture him pole dancing, it's hilarious. Who's gonna replace him, you think? I don't even wanna think about it.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I can't even come to grips with it. Someone's kid. You think Vern Lindquist is just there? Sitting in a tree house. Sitting in a tree house. Never leaves. Never leaves. Good to see you guys back again.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Who you got calling it this year? I know I'm out, but I'm staying here. They're just going to give it to Jim Nance's kid, aren't they? He works hard. Nobody else felt this way watching Jim Nance lose at the end. Oh, here's Jim. I don't know Jim.
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