The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: AWWWWWWWWWWW! (feat. Elle Duncan)

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Oh, is that Fox? Oh, shit, what a fox. Hey, what's up, buddy? Hey, homie. I had to come on Dan's show to see you. Oh, she sounded so much happier to see you than to see us. And we greet her with surprise. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is offensive to me. It was shocking. I expect to see Dan. This is hurtful to me.
Starting point is 00:00:27 What just happened there is I was just going to greet her. I was getting ready in my head. I'm going to greet her with, oh, yeah! But instead, she just gravitates immediately to Foxworth and greets him with more enthusiasm than she's ever had to see me, us, or anyone around here. It's so not true. It's the fact that I fully expect I'm going to see Dan Levitard on anyone around here? It's so not true. It's the fact that I fully expect
Starting point is 00:00:45 I'm going to see Dan Levitard on the Dan Levitard show, not Fox. And Fox never invites me on his podcast anymore. I think him and Charlie clearly have something that they're doing where they just want to ban me from their show. And I don't have a show anymore to invite him on, so this is a fun surprise.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Smart redirection right there. You knew I was coming for you and say that you rejected us the last couple of times we invited you, so you preemptively blamed us. The best redirection since Mike Ryan still hasn't answered for your Golden Cane criticism. I'm hoping we get it at some point before. I'm sorry I didn't answer.
Starting point is 00:01:16 When's the last time that I Golden Caned-ed? When we get to pitch clock. Before we get to pitch clock, I need to play this sound that proves to the audience and everyone listening to this, that not only is Elle just thrilled to see Dominique and less thrilled to see the rest of us, she doesn't even know who Chris Cody is.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh hey, what's up Greg? I was just telling her, people do this to me at Panthers game now. I'll walk by someone, oh hey, what's up Greg? And what did I say, you need to just go by Cody. Like I think that's probably like the fail safe there. Or learn my name. There's already a Cody. Wow Jesus. Because that won't be confusing. Just learn his name. This is what happens. I know Chris is a tough one. Oh hey what's up Greg? I've told you this, if it makes you feel better,
Starting point is 00:02:06 everyone calls me Ellie, and I don't correct them. It's just like, it's fine. I'm a big fan, Ellie. I'm like, clearly you watch my show on mute. Your thoughts last night on all things Pacers here, because I understand that two to one doesn't mean anything and that OKC has been better all year, but it is fair to ask, I think, hey think hey okc what have you been tested by somebody
Starting point is 00:02:29 who has proven to you that they can beat you and now is up to you know you're in trouble okc is in trouble and needs to uh... needs to win your thoughts on what happened yesterday because i think it's uh... that indians not merely a surprise i think that also last night was a surprise. No, I think everyone predicted it would be the Benedict Matheran game. What do you mean, Dan?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, I think I'm actually in Indianapolis covering this for Sports Center. And by the way, I was today years old when I found out KnappTown, their nickname is not because it's a sleepy town, which is what I assumed, but short for Indianapolis. So I'm learning all kinds of things. I think honestly, it was all of the things that we had said, the Pacers had only played one good quarter in this entire series and led for
Starting point is 00:03:13 two minutes in this whole series and they needed to fix everything. Their turnovers, they needed Tyrese Halliburton to like step up and assert himself, you know, because a big part of their issues was his passivity. And like you want a great facilitator, that's, he always says that's the way he's like, his first goal is just to dish, but he also needs to assert himself. And he did that. And then they needed help from like everyone not named Tyree Saliberton. And the pendulum really swung. Cause in game two, the Thunder bench scored like 48 points.
Starting point is 00:03:40 They shot 51% from the field. Like they were ridiculous and it completely went the other way yesterday. It was the Pacers bench that was great. They kept that pace that they had not been able to do particularly well. Tyrese was finally driving and then they turned OKC over a ton. So yeah, I think if you're the Thunder, you're feeling some kind of way. I did think the Pacers would win this game. I thought that it was their best opportunity for this series to go six or seven
Starting point is 00:04:06 games and the energy and the you know it had been 25 years and all those other storylines that went into it. But yeah like the Thunder are certainly in trouble. We did Dan do you know on Sports Center the whole thing that everyone does like the winners of game three and a tied series in the finals have won 33 times compared to just eight losses. But in recent history, that's not really been the case. And so the Thunder, absolutely, I think we're still gonna be the favorites to win this thing. It's just that it's not gonna be in five anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's gonna have to probably be in seven. Who was that person with the shoulders? What is that thing that we do? What is the, yes. That's an anchor. That's a, yeah, that's a broadcaster using all the same sign notes that we all have. Okay, so 33 and eight in these games, but it doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm just doing my happy anchor dance. I think that Chris Cody had the best take I've heard, and I haven't heard a better one, off of last night's game, which is the following. That someone named Benedict Matheran looks like TJ McConnell, but someone named TJ McConnell is more likely to look like Benedict Matheran. 100%.
Starting point is 00:05:06 If you just hear Benedict Matheran and you have never seen him, you would think it would be like some French dude, you know, or like some guy that looks European. And in fact, I can confirm he is a black person. So it's all in the face. Excellent. Confirming.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Thank you, Greg. It was a great point by you. It was. But point by you. It was. But the Pacers winning, this part, right? We did not spend this season talking about Curry and LeBron and the idea that this would all get toppled, possibly, into games by TJ McConnell,
Starting point is 00:05:41 Neesmith, Nemheart, like, and perimeter. Yeah, perimeter defense, like, and Halliburton, a very nice star, according to everybody, about six months ago, maybe three months ago. Yeah, I think, like, part of, I was actually really confused by this idea, though, that nobody was gonna wanna watch this series, and I know the numbers have not been fantastic, and that these are two two small market teams. Like a lot of times, and you know this,
Starting point is 00:06:08 it's our job to sell storylines, even if there isn't really any, we just have to manufacture them. But it feels like there are really good storylines. But this also goes back to the ultimate point that I try to make whenever fans air their grievances about how all we ever do is talk about the Lakers, even if they're not good. We only talk about the Cowboys. We only talk about... I'm like, you all control that. And the idea that you've got these young superstars, the youngest team we've ever seen in the NBA finals, this Canadian, this like good slash Canadian kid, which just the polarity of that alone is wild to me, who is this MVP who is like this other worldly star. And then you've got the Pacers and the Reggie Miller sort of history, and they've never won. They've only won ABA.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It's supposed to be prime for all of those fans that say, we don't show love to anyone else, that we're not building towards the future, that what happens when LeBron and Steph retire, da-da-da-da-da. And then you guys are watching in the same way that you would watch if it was LeBron, or Steph Curry playing in the finals, or the Celt watch if it was LeBron, you know, or Steph Curry playing in the finals or the Celtics or any of these sort of legacy teams. So I go back to the point of like,
Starting point is 00:07:10 this is what we're talking about. Like this is why we always try to push those teams on you because that's what you consume, that's what you like. And if you really want to usher in a new era of the NBA, then you need to embrace this series and watch it. It has not been largely competitive outside of the end of game one. Game two was a blowout.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yesterday was a good game. Like it was a competitive game from beginning to end. It was good. It's fun to watch. These teams score and they run. And I don't know. I don't know how else we sell this. You know what's good and fun to watch?
Starting point is 00:07:40 L yes or L no. Are you ready to play it with us? Because I want to get, I want I want I have other sports questions but first I want to play L Yes or L No. Do we have any fanfare? Do we have any does this have any accompaniment or we've done no imaging? A little heads up on this would be nice. Okay well she was joining us. She provides it by saying L Yeah. Okay all right there's no all right I've got some fanfare here. I don't, all right, socks with sandals. Elle yes or Elle no? Elle no.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And I will add on, if you are a man, I don't want to see your toes unless you're walking into water. So I just say, Elle no to socks with sandals and Elle no period to men with their toes out. It's so gross. It's gross. Elle yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So many close-toes shoes. Get them away. Get them away. I have nice toes. No, she said water. No you don't. Walking into water, walking into the pool, walking out of the gym, fine. I don't want you at work with your toes out. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It really bothers me. It's gross. Stop. Roy. Hair on your feet. This vigorous applause by you, this vigorous applause in support of, against male toes? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:08:47 I hate man feet. He's so anti man feet. I think there's something going on there Well, but what what do you have back feet Roy? What are you accusing him? I think he really likes man feet What no, I do not What an accuser what kind of accusation is that from you? You don't know that he's a closet or man footer. Sorry. Roy, answer the question. L-E-S or L-NA? I feel the same way about Sidney Crosby.
Starting point is 00:09:12 That's how much I hate him. So L-NA. That's a sentence that's probably never been said before. It's just strange. The whole thing is strange. I feel the same way about men's feet as I feel about Sidney Crosby. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's the first time it's ever Crosby. I'm with you Together in that order by anyone before and spoken that's the first time to do Yes, or no you can be a voter and a writer in a writing association if you have not yet written an article. L yes or L no? Ooh, L no. Like what? Don't you have to put in like a little bit of work? Like don't you have to just like try like a touch,
Starting point is 00:10:00 even a love piece? Like if you're gonna have an opportunity to vote and represent the writer's association, you should probably write. Yes! What do I know, I'm not a writer. Which has happened. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 See, you guys are poorly framing the question. He wrote it after he gained entry. Did you do this, Fox? No, no, no. Did you do this, Fox? No, no, no, I've written plenty of it. That was a wonderful answer. Let me just say, Elliot, to you,
Starting point is 00:10:23 it's lovely to have you on the show. It's Roy. Thank you so much. I write all the time. Oh, Roy, you're a wonderful answer. Let me just say Elliot to you. It's really have you on the show. Thank you so much All right, all it's all right. You're a writer now But we came back. No, I love it. Come here, you little writer. Come here, you adorable little writer. Come here, you little writer. What a comeback. No, usually people start with writing and then they expand.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, no, no, no. Perfectly logical. Yes, you're absolutely right. Usually, typically, they start with writing and then they're granted access. You know what? Perfect answer, L. Thank you. Wow, the Warriors blue with three one lead. Listen, I was invited into the Professional Hockey Riders Association by the chapter chair in the region.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So thank you very much. The chapter chair. Well, never mind that. L, the sound of pity. I'll take it. Take that L spelled E L L E. That chapter chair. And the W thank you very much. It was very condescending. I'm sorry, Roy.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I didn't mean it that way. I kind of did, but I wrote an op-ed. An op-ed sounds impressive just was like, come home to me. After! After! An op-ed sounds impressive. Yeah. It does. It is impressive. It does sound cute. It's very courageous to give your opinion, Roy. You're so brave, Roy.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It was a political opinion, too, so. One person that showed courage on this show today, let it be known, it was Mike Ryan Ruiz, and he has been justified. I, I have, I have, I have, I'm horrified by everything that's happened here. Most horrified at all by you bellowing into the screaming something about a committee chair. He was invited by the committee chair.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I know people. Sounds impressive. Really, if it makes you feel bad, let me self-own. If it makes you feel bad, I am still a member of SAG, and the only thing I've ever done with my acting career is be an extra in write-alongs. So there you go. So I'm not really befitting of that honor either.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Well, you still got your SAG card. Yeah, I still pay that check. Yeah, that's true. L yes or L no, cold pizza. The show. The show. Not the show, nobody even remembers the show. Oh, we all remember the show.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No one remembers the show. I remember cold pizza. Jay Crawford, yeah. Ah, Jay Crawford. All right, that's not how you play L yes or L no. What's he up to? I'm not, I. Jay Crawford?
Starting point is 00:13:04 L no, yeah, L no to Edith Cold, Cold Pizza. I love Jake Crawford, he's a good dude. I think he's back in Cleveland. El No to Cold Pizza. The birthplace of first take, right? He is, living his best life. What a hit, this has been great. It was, that was the first.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You know that, does it look like people? Yeah, it birthed that. Cold Pizza, you're going, Elle, no, you've got, pizza has to be warm for you. Yeah, I have a thing. I hope this doesn't make me sound like a two percenter. I've always been this way. I don't like leftovers.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I don't like them. I think they're disgusting and I won't eat them. So that would involve cold pizza as well. I would do it. Put it on the poll at Levitard's show. Do you hate leftovers? This is a bit of a shocker. Is it not? Who hates leftovers?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Elle Duncan. Elle. Elle yes or Elle no? The Real Housewives series. Oof. So I was actually on The Real Housewives a couple times and I was like somewhat trying to be recruited to be like a friend, you know, not a cast member,
Starting point is 00:14:04 but a friend of you know, not a cast member, but a friend of the cast member. And for Cynthia, this is 15 years ago when I was still living in Atlanta. And I remember saying to them specifically, like, I want to be like a sports broadcaster. Like, I don't really think that this is the way to do that. And they were like, no, this is great publicity. This is great for you. People will figure out who you are. And I was like, has anyone ever gone from doing this to being on like ESPN? And they were like are. And I was like, has anyone ever gone from doing this to being on like ESPN? And they were like, no.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I was like, then I'm all set. I'm out on it just because I know how fake it is. I've been on it a few times. I know how manufactured all of it is, like literally takes. It's not just that they feed you lines and things like that. It's that if they don't like how it went, they'll redo it three or four or five times. And so yeah, I'm not in on it.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't watch it. You unmasked the entire industry right there. Christmas has been ruined. Oh yes or oh no, Pagebeckers will win a WNBA title before Caitlin Clark. I love Pagebeckers. It will not be because of anything she's done, but have you seen Dallas play?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Oh no. Like the Fever actually built to win a championship this year. They got derailed, obviously, with Caitlin Like the fever actually built to win a championship this year. They got derailed obviously with Caitlin getting hurt, but like that's a championship caliber team. Um, that is not what's happening in the wings. So I'll say L no to that. Coco golf will win 10 plus majors.
Starting point is 00:15:17 L yes or L no. 21. He has two in the what six years. So I'm like just trying to do the math that she keeps up with her average. 10, that's a lot. LES, LES. Look at that, confident and positive.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It sounded like you were trying to talk yourself into it. It sounded like you're rooting for it, but if you had to bet on it, you'd better be. She realized that there was no winning in saying L No. In our heart, in our heart. In fact, I'm calling El No bullshit on El Yes. I don't want her, after she wins her dense major, to pull this up and be like, you never believed in me. I believe in her, I really, really do.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I just think that we're a little bit poisoned by Serena, who is just rattling off majors all the time. And like I said, she's won two, and she's been around for about six years now. So at that pace, like, you know, maybe not. But I think based on what I saw at the French Open, like, if she can kind of pick up some momentum, sure. Yeah, I'm hopeful. Oh, yes or no, a soup has to be warm. Oh, L yes, ew, like not warm soups are like gazpacho.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Who eats that? What do you say to that? Yeah. Thank you, boreshit. You guys need, you need that? No, no, no, no, I'm with you. People think, they're making me, they're shaming me about saying soup has to be warm or it's not soup.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's like saying a writer has to be a writer before they're a writer. It's crazy, I like you as the arbiter. You've done us no wrong. No, if it's not warm, it's like baby food. It's puree. It's just like a smoothie. Of course it has to be warm.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I don't understand how that's a thing. Thank you. Thank you. We listed some cold soups and they make sense. Yes, no one disagrees. What are cold soups? I forget them. Casab no one disagrees. What are cold soups? I forget them. Casabasas.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They're like a strawberry. So they're memorable then. Chilled avocado soup, coconut curry soup, chilled saffron and almond soup, a curried yogurt soup. These were all out of Jessica's soup book. The yogurt's just yogurt, right? I mean, cold yogurt soup. She agreed with you, take yogurt off the list.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Elle, nice seeing you, always nice seeing you. Very nice seeing you. I should tell people, by the way, she's the host of ESPN's Vibe Check, premiering exclusively on Disney Plus later this month. Vibe Check. Happy to see her voice in more places. Always nice seeing you, Elle,
Starting point is 00:17:42 thank you for making the time. Dan, thank you so much, Dan. Yes! Thank you so much Dan! Hi Dan! I'm in for it. She's a fraud. She's a fraud. Pitchclock is next! Don Lebatard! It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is always the right size. Stugats! All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Don't let him fool you, he said in the break that he's jittery. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the pitch. A two-part baseball segment. Combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. The Pitch Clock is back again here on a Thursday. Hi, Robleda. Yeah, there's our typical intro with Chris Cody. We obviously... It has to be confusing to June. Yeah, of course. Well, and that's what I wanted to mention. Cody's here. I'm here June Lee is back with us for another week except this time instead of being our 2025 MLB expert we are subjecting him to Taylor's trivia
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, so Taylor is here Taylor. Please explain the trivia game. We are about play with me Chris and June This is a new one So you guys will be given five categories one at a time for each one You just need to give one answer that you think fits the number of points you get is based on what they did in the category So if the category was 2024 home runs and you guessed otani you would get 54 points for that round. Wow. Okay This is insane. The catch is if you guys write the same answer as another person, no points. Whoa, okay, it cancels itself out.
Starting point is 00:19:31 So unique choices here are important as well. At least it's not confusing for June's first time. Yeah, this is super not confusing at all. All right, Taylor, so let's do this. First category, first stat that you want us to look at. 2006 runs scored. Okay. 2006 runs scored.
Starting point is 00:19:51 2006. I'm gonna go ahead. I gotta be honest here, this is like a ball went out on me situation. I saw what Jeremy wrote. You did? Yeah. So it's the name that I have. Well, wouldn't you think I'd wanna put the name that you have? Anyways, we're getting bogged down here. I don't think so. You did? Yeah. So it's the name that I have. Well, wouldn't you think I'd want to put the name
Starting point is 00:20:05 that you have? Anyways, we're getting bogged down. I don't think so. All right. June, do you have- Let's reveal the names. Yeah, do you have a name written down, June? I have the name Ichiro. Oh, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And then I have very little frame of reference for what number could be plausible here. So I just put down 157. I like that you put a number. I didn't put a number. I'm fascinated to see. I put Alex Rodriguez. And I put Derek Jeter, which is the name
Starting point is 00:20:31 that Chris definitely originally put and then crossed out. Which is just helping you. That's fine. Yeah, no, it's good for everybody. So June is gonna get 110 points for each euro. Chris Cody is going to get 113 points for A-Rod. And then Jeremy is gonna get 118 points for Derek Cheater. After one round.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Those are three pretty good guesses. That actually helped me. That felt pretty good. If I picked you, if you had done Cheater, we'd be down by a hundred points. If I just see the papers in there, I'm gonna glance at it. All right, I understand.
Starting point is 00:21:07 You circled it. I thought you said cheaters never prosper. And now our 2025 baseball expert is here. We have Kylie McDaniel. You can follow him on Twitter at Kylie MCD. He's an ESPN baseball insider. Thank you for joining us. I'm very happy that you're here
Starting point is 00:21:26 and let's just dive into it with the College World Series. We finally got the eight teams set headed to Omaha for the final round of the College World Series this weekend, kicking off action. So what have been some of your favorite moments that have led to here and who have been some of the teams and stars worth watching during this tournament? So you have two teams in Arkansas and LSU that I think two or the three teams with the
Starting point is 00:21:50 most pro talent, they made it. Tennessee was the other one that was there. They would have made it, but they were playing against Arkansas. So only one of them could make it. And so the rest of the field is then you have some of the, the resource to mid-majors. We have West Coast teams like UCLA, Arizona, Oregon State. We have maybe the Gonzaga of baseball in Coastal Carolina. All of them have won titles in the last 15 years. They're all back. We had Louisville, who was the surprise of the ACC teams to make it. They are one of those sort of second-tier resource teams, but they weren't supposed to be here. They were fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth in the ACC. And then the big surprise, the Cinderella, which we didn't think they really existed in college baseball anymore, is Murray State.
Starting point is 00:22:25 We had Oral Roberts two years ago who had some pro prospects. We have Murray State this year, who has probably one guy on the whole team that will even be drafted. I had some tweets this week because I was trying to figure out why they got here. So in the postseason, Murray State has played
Starting point is 00:22:38 Ole Miss, Georgia Tech, and Duke. Those teams had to combine 24 players who sat 92 or higher with their fastball. Do you want to guess how many Murray State had of those 24? Zero. Zero. There were 17 players on those four teams that hit a ball 109 or higher off the bat. Murray State had one of them.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's crazy. They were completely overmatched when it comes to big tools and pro scouting and pro prospects, but they're here and that's why it's interesting. Like they don't really belong. They've already completely overshot the runway in terms of their expectations, but like that's kind of the beautiful thing of college baseball.
Starting point is 00:23:12 These guys are here and they kind of shouldn't be. And like, who knows how far it could go. They only have to win a handful more games. We love a Cinderella story generally, right? In sports, but Murray State making the college world series is truly like one of the biggest Cinderella stories, I think this entire century in any college sport. It's really unbelievable given the stats that you just said.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So in the same way that many of us are rooting for the Indiana Pacers, we should be rooting for the Murray State Racers. But let's move on to the MLB draft here because that's coming up in about a month and that changes the fortune for so many franchises is you know, we'll talk about a couple of guys who have been high draft picks later in this episode, but We'll start with you here
Starting point is 00:23:56 Kylie and try to bring in some some more guests over the next few weeks to get people started But I want to start with sort of a sampler here So who are some of the players at the top of this draft that people should get to know ahead of the draft and who's one of your favorite players in this draft? Whether you think they're going to be a surefire superstar or maybe going to be a steal for a team as they drop to, you know, a different point in that first round.
Starting point is 00:24:21 The guys that I think are of most note to the audience here, there's a couple of high school players generally seen as the you know, a different point in that first round. The guys that I think are of most note to the audience here, there's a couple of high school players, generally seen as the best of those is Ethan Holliday, shortstop out of Oklahoma High School. Another one of the holidays, obviously his older brother is Jackson, his dad is Matt. And then the other high school player of note
Starting point is 00:24:37 is Seth Hernandez, a high school righty out of Southern California team. His high school corona has two guys that are gonna go in the top 10 picks and then another guy that's going to get drafted later. There's an unbelievable low. One high school. Yes, from one high school. They have multiple. They have an underclassmen going to LSU like they are. They are better than some college team. Yeah, this high school team that has more talent than Murray State, who's at the college World Series. So those are the two high school guys they think are seen as candidates to go in the top two or three picks overall. And then from the college side, there's three lefties. Probably the best of the group right now is Kate Anderson,
Starting point is 00:25:08 a lefty at LSU that's in the College World Series that has been trending up of late. The other two, Liam Doyle, lefty out of Tennessee. It just feels like hell's bells are playing every time he comes in. Welcome to the jungle. It's that kind of guy. It's just hair goes back, throwing 100
Starting point is 00:25:21 all over the place sometimes, but also dominates at a level we haven't seen since like Paul Skeens basically. And the last one is lefty Florida out of Florida State Jamie Arnold. Those are the three college pitchers that are in that conversation. And then I've our cat is first up Oregon State, who's also in the college world series is the best college here. He's also in that group. And so that that's probably like the top five guys out of that group of players that is in the mix for those top few picks. Second round, let's do this Taylor. The category is 2004 walks. Oh this is some devilish work by you Taylor because we all want to put the same name but then what happens if none of us put that name? Just know I'm putting it. Yeah, you called dibs. I might just be saying that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, I know you got it. Or I'm putting down Barry Bonds. Right, all right, all right, all right. Does everybody have a name? Has everybody written down a name? Yes. OK. I have, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I'll start. I put A-Rod. Well, I put down Barry Bonds. Oh, no! Yeah! No! Jeremy, you said it. Why didn't you do it?
Starting point is 00:26:21 You should have done it. You said you were going to do it. It's your game. So who'd you put? Nick Johnson. God, you why didn't you do it? You should have you said you were gonna do it. It's your game. Oh So who'd you put Nick Johnson? God? You're an idiot June gets 232 points for Barry Bob. Oh, let's go Jeremy gets 80 points for Alex Rodriguez. We have no chance of winning this game And where was Nick Johnson? Give me him.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Nick Johnson, 40 walks. All right. I think to Cody's slight defense, my natural instinct was to put down like a hipster pick, like Bill Miller or something like that. Bill Miller. Now you're tickling me. Yeah, that's, see, this is why we play the game,
Starting point is 00:27:03 for names like Bill Miller. Because he was a big OBP guy, but then I was just like if I want to win Yeah, obviously the answer is Barry Bond's well at this point I feel like this competition is gonna end up being over, but let's it's fine Let's continue into round three out for him in a row. We're gonna be right back in it Taylor 2009 innings pitched. Oh, I like that. I'm gonna... I feel good about mine. It's just like, I'm a little worried.
Starting point is 00:27:29 There's so many guys that it's like, there's like a 15 year period. I'm like, was he at the front of the thousand? There's three guys on one team that I wanna put on this list and I'm not. All right, I'm ready. Okay, I got mine. Do you have your name?
Starting point is 00:27:42 My name? I already regret mine. What's your name? My name? I already regret mine What's your name? Jamie Moyer. Oh, that's a fun one Okay, I have Tim Linsacum. Johan Santana. That's the name I'm so glad I didn't pivot because he was the next name I was thinking of. June Jamie Moyer 162 innings That's not bad. Not bad, not bad. Chris Cody, Johan Santana, 166.2.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Wow. Jeremy, Tim Linsacum was in the top 10 innings pitch that season. He was number nine, 225.1. Let's go. That's my boy, Tim Linsacum. Big time, Timmy Jim. Let's go. That's my boy, Tim Linsacum. Big time, Timmy Jim. Let's move on to what's going on
Starting point is 00:28:28 in Major League Baseball right now and some of those prospects that you've been looking at for years who have all just come up. It's been a really good month or so here for prospects coming up in Major League Baseball. So I'm gonna ask for quick notes on actually three different guys here.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It's Roman Anthony, who's the Red Sox top prospect who just came up and it's a huge deal. We saw what a big day it was in Boston. Then there's Jacob Mizerowski, the Brewers pitcher who can hit 103 on the gun and he'll be making his major league debut tonight starting for the Brewers. And then this is just an excuse to show
Starting point is 00:29:01 some of the greatest catches I've ever seen in his first 18 games. Denzel Clark is basically Torrey Hunter and center field for the athletics. So those three guys really exciting time for baseball to have the three of them come up. Can I get a couple of notes on on each of them? Yeah, Roman Anthony's an easy one to get excited about. He's been the top prospect in baseball since Roki Sasaki graduated. He was a guy that's been a multimillion dollar type player out of high school.
Starting point is 00:29:26 He has a chance to hit 30, maybe even 40 homers, but currently he still hits too many ground balls. So he doesn't have that loft in his swing. But the exit Velo suggests that there is, you know, home run derby type, multiple all-star, chance to be an MVP kind of talent. Probably like a, I'd say a medium average, maybe 250, 260 hitter tons of walks really good plate selection
Starting point is 00:29:47 And then he's also pretty good athlete pretty good runner can fill in in centerfield, but is more of a good right fielder Denzel Clark is really interesting He's been a slow burn prospect came from a mid-major college has been in the minors for a little while the scouting report has kind Of always been it's plus plus power plus plus speed plus plus defense we'll see if he can put the bat on the ball enough for any of that to matter and so the question is does he turn into like a defensive replacement with unbelievable tools that doesn't really hit very much or does he turn into like mike cameron like that it would be if everything clicks he could turn into that and then i would argue probably the most fun i think fans have the most fun watching
Starting point is 00:30:22 these guys like jacob morowski that can just throw 103. He is six, seven, comes at ya. He has a cutter, a slider, a curve ball. Everything is plus to plus plus. It's all moving all over the place. And then this year he just magically started throwing strikes to triple A. And nobody really knows what to do with this.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And the question is basically, is this guy gonna be one of the better closers in the league or is he gonna actually turn into like Zach Wheeler and the whole thing's gonna click? And so this might actually be the hyped guy that they can turn into something. This is one of the craziest, most electric arms we've ever seen in Major League Baseball and he takes the mound tonight. Let's move to our star of the week and Kylie, you may not know this, we've been calling
Starting point is 00:30:59 this Ag Golden Era in Major League Baseball for superstars. And I'm actually gonna throw three of them at you. Normally we're making our guests choose between two, but it's been such a ridiculous week and such a ridiculous season for all three of these guys. I'm gonna throw each of three players and a stat at ya, and then you're gonna focus on one of them as we move forward. So there's my guy, Tarek Scoobel, with the Detroit Tigers.
Starting point is 00:31:24 He's gone 6-0 with a 1-6-1 ERA, 13 earned runs, and 72 and two-thirds innings pitched with 95 strikeouts and three walks across his last 11 starts. Is that good? That's pretty good. He might not even be as good as Paul Skeens, because there have been 90 occurrences all time
Starting point is 00:31:43 where an MLB pitcher has a sub 2.1 ERA and 80 plus strikeouts through 13 starts of a season. Paul Skeens in 2025 is the only one of those to have a losing record in Pittsburgh. He's four and six over that stretch. This is a guy with an ERA under two in his first 37 starts in Major League Baseball. And then there's Cal Raleigh,
Starting point is 00:32:03 who we've brought up the big dumper on this show multiple times, but he continues to lead Major League Baseball in home runs. And over the last 30 days, he's first in nearly every category. And that's as Aaron Judge is having one of his sickest seasons of all time. So Cal Raleigh, Paul Skeens, Tarek Scoobel,
Starting point is 00:32:22 pick one and let's focus on him. I'm gonna pick Tarek Scoobel, pick one and let's focus on him. I'm gonna pick Tarek Schubel. He went in the ninth round, like everyone thought he was just okay. And we've seen it a couple of times in the past. It doesn't happen very often. Jacob deGrom is the one that I think of the most, where there are rules about baseball and pitching
Starting point is 00:32:37 where this might sound counterintuitive, but VELO essentially goes up until you're around age 25 and then it starts to slowly come down. And the trick for pitchers is you have to learn as much command to make up for the velocity you lose as you get older. Tarek Skubal's Velo has gone up four years in a row, and he's 28.
Starting point is 00:32:54 He had really hit triple digits, and then this year he hit 103 in like the 80th pitch of a game. Like he's defying all of these rules. And so like at age 27, he won his first Cy Young last year. Now he's hitting new heights in velocity. I don't know how to explain any of this anymore. Like all of the scouting that you do, all the history you create, all of the like, well, he does this and he's good at this. It's
Starting point is 00:33:14 all presumed on, well, he's not going to start throwing harder at 26, 27 and 28 and then learn the best new pitch that he wasn't throwing that much. Like none of this stuff is supposed to happen and he's kind of doing all of it. And that's really fascinating to me because it just kind of blows up the entire like rubric of the way that I've been taught to like judge pitchers. Right. Tarek Scoobel is the exception to the rule. And I appreciate that what you've done is basically spent this entire time giving us your expertise
Starting point is 00:33:39 and then immediately undermining your own expertise by saying, I didn't think this guy who's the best pitcher in baseball was gonna be any good. Kylie McDaniel, thank you very much for all of the analysis that you've given us. This was a blast. Hope to have you back sometime soon after the draft. We can catch up on all of the things that occur there and some of the prospects that come up in the meantime.
Starting point is 00:34:00 But for now, let's get back to our competition with Chris and June. Taylor, what is our stat? 1997 home runs. Jesus. 1997 home runs. Wow, okay. What a time for home runs,
Starting point is 00:34:19 because there have been 10 different guys who came to mind. But I'm- Here's where I'm going. Does everybody have a name written down? Oh wait, I was thinking 03 for a second. You wanna take a second? Okay, we can just go.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Well, but you should probably write it down before we- Yeah, okay, I got it. All right, I'll just unveil mine first. My name was Ken Griffey Jr. Oh, that's a good name. Does anybody have Ken Griffey? No. No, I have Mark McGuire.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Great. Chris, who do you have? Just crossed out Sosa, and I put Jim Tomey. That is one of the names I was just thinking of. Oh, that's pretty good. Him and Frank Thomas were a couple of the names. Just thinking 97 Marlins versus like that. Yeah, who they were playing.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Chris Cody, Jim Tomey was eighth with 40 home runs. I stink. So you get 40 points there. Same amount of walks as Nick Johnson. Mark McGuire, 58 home runs that season. Yeah. Where was Sosa? And then Ken Griffey,
Starting point is 00:35:17 right behind Mark McGuire in second, 56. Hell yeah. All right. This was pre-Sosa, right? That was a good cross by me. Sosa started, he had 36 that year. Sosa's run from 98 to 01 or 02 was the run for him. Good cross out. Good cross out. So Chris Cody, you're within 200 and luckily for you, this category. I'm within 203.
Starting point is 00:35:40 This category is 2000 hits. Hate you. Oh, this this is okay good. I like what you did there Taylor Alright, so hold on to glory the question that I have here is do I want to put the name that I think was at? the top of that list and Potentially cancel myself out with June because I have a feeling everyone's thinking the same thing Or do I put a feeling everyone's thinking the same thing. Or do I put a name that I just think will be on that list? I think you should do whatever your heart tells you not to do.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You have a name? Yeah. You have a name, June? I have a name. I'm going last. I do. All right, All right. Jun, you go first.
Starting point is 00:36:26 My name is Nomar Garcia-Para. Okay. My name, second time used, Derek Jeter. You have Jeter? No. Oh, thank God. I went Ichiro. Well, we're really hitting at the core of the baseball.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Who'd you go, Chris? Ichiro. Ichiro's 2001 debut. Dude, yeah, he had no hits. 2001 Rookie of the base. Would you go Chris? Ichiro. Ichiro's 2001 debut. Dude, yeah, he had no hits. 2001 Rookie of the Year Ichiro did not have a hit. No one said we were talking about Major League Baseball. Chris Cody could take the asterisk 153 hits anyways because it's third on this list.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Thank you. Derek Jeter 201 hits, Nomar, 197. Two solid guesses, but it clutches June to win. June is victorious. Congratulations, June, on being a first-time champion in your first game. That's devastating because we play this every week and we both stink at it.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So congratulations on your victory. Thank you for joining us for a second straight week on the Pitch Clock. Yeah, thank you for having me.

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