The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Best Of Ron Magill

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Soooooo...some problems out of our control have hit the studio and left us in a really sticky spot. Due to the issues, we are unable to record an Hour 2 in the studio today and have to pivot. To make up for the lack of show, we are giving you a Best of Ron Magill segment featuring some of our favorite moments from his recent appearances on the show. Enjoy these classic moments from one of the most beloved characters in our show's history! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Here's a best of our two. Levertards Gigante Show the Animale with Ron McGill. A Jorna Diva Macrider Trabajo in Zoo Miami. in Zoo Miami. I want you to meet this guy. This kind of looks like a hybrid animal. This guy here, hey, come here, Tango, Tango. This is Tango, Tango, Tango, Tango, Tango. Oh, peanuts! This is called a Patagonian Cavy or Amara.

And it's basically a big guinea pig. This guy, believe it or not, for those of you who live in South Florida, I was called by the police department. He was walking along the parking lot of the fall shopping center. Somebody must have had him as a pet. The cool thing about him is he feels really soft. You can pet him, Mike. He's not gonna bite you. I'm good. Mike, Mike, you can pet him. Mike, pet him. All right.

Here, Mike, give him a peanut. Give him a peanut. Show him the peanut. Let him take the peanut. Look at that, Mike. You are now an animal guy. Can I ask you a question while I got you? Sure. Have you ever seen a hamster in the wild? Because I think they only exist in pet stores. I've never seen a hamster. Never given that thought. Never seen a hamster in the wild. They only exist in pet stores. Yeah, you're probably right. I think they only exist in pet stores. I've never seen a hamster in the wild. They only exist in pet stores. Yeah, you're probably right. I think they have been kind of a modified breed

that has just basically used his pets, but this guy should not really be a pet. Obviously somebody tried to keep him as a pet. He got away, he's in the fall shopping center. Now he's an ambassador here at the zoo. Found up in the mountains of Chile, up in the Andes, they get a nice thick coat. They work really well to deal with the different kinds of changing weather there all the time. Tango is one of our favorites. Yeah,

looks like a combination of a lot of different animals. Yeah, like what do you stand on that? You ever see the island of Dr. Moreau? I did. Yeah, and this does. You're right. I'll be free when it's Marlon Brando on that. This is like a combination of a kangaroo, a rabbit with short ears, and a guinea pig. All right, here we go. I got another for you. What, Tangles liking those peanuts? You're a big hit with him, brother. This is Goliath. He's our Galapagos tortoise.

He's 500 pounds, probably about 90 years old. One of the oldest living vertebrates in the world. And to me, you know, he's a little bit on the heavy side. Very, very slow. If I was going to look at one of the guys and say, who would most be like the Galapagos tortoise, you got to go with great Cody. Yeah, I hear him wheezing. He's definitely most likely in the animal kingdom to miss a hard network out. Absolutely, absolutely. But you know what? At the end of the day,

dependable and also quite lovable. And if you look closely at his face, that's ET, man. Look at it. ET. Going home. He's 90. He can live to be over 150. So, uh... Is that the oldest tortoise that you have here at the zoo? We believe he's one of the oldest.

We don't know because a lot of these guys actually came in as adults from the Galapagos Islands. They're one of the only animals we have at the zoo that actually are out of the wild because they're so old. Because zoos don't take animals out of the wild anymore. Alright, and Goliath, we'll be coming with you in studio. We'll see. Yeah, fits in an overhead. Not one of your stronger impressions.

Ron, I imagine this elephant over here is probably not going to make the trip being that he's bigger than our tights, Sudio. Yeah, you know, but I'm working on it. I'm thinking if we can put him on Ocean Drive, it would be a good draw. It'd probably bring a lot of attention to the marathon. So I'm working on a specialized trailer. Listen, Mike, nothing's out of the question.

Anything can happen, especially at the Clevelander. I'm pretty sure there have been elephants there in the past in her town. Now, there are warnings out here that the elephants can throw things with their trunks. That is true. You know, there's over 40,000 muscles in the elephant's trunk and they have an accuracy with things that can be really big. But if we don't give them any ammunition, we should be safe.

You just never know. Again, I think adding to the excitement of it, you want to have an element of uncertainty. Yeah. Right? With a small marathon, that's what it's all about. A live television element, anything can happen. So you guys could be riding an elephant down Ocean Drive. I'm probably going to bring this guy to the studio. Very small studio. Well, there's a partition of glass that'll protect me. It'll be fine. I'm not a bird person. Mike, why are you not a bird person?

I got attacked by a bird, ducked my head down into a spiked fence, you know, broke all the skin and now... What kind of bird attacked you? It was a vicious, it was a vicious, you know, standard pigeon, but he was he was... This is an eagle owl. It's got talons, I see that. That's the dangerous part, buddy. That's what you gotta watch out for. Yeah. Mike, I want you to just touch the back. Just Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Just very soft in the back. Just right. Just come on Mike. You can do it. Come on. You're a sports guy, Mike. You're

fearless. Come on, Mike. You can do it. Look at that. Look at that, Mike. It's very soft. Look at that. Right? Very soft, right? Pretty incredible. Owls generally freaked me out even before I grew to fearing birds because of the whole extracis neck thing and they're just always up to something. But they got to do that Mike, you know why? Because they can't move their eyes. They can't move. You know, you and I can do this, right? We can look around like this. The owl can't do that. So he's got to be able to point his head directly what he's... he likes you, buddy. He got he's got whose laser focused on you there for a while yeah I see that. You can keep this guy here. I really think this is gonna be one I'm bringing to the studio

I think I think I'm gonna bring him to the studio you know so the guys is just gonna stay in your arms the entire time well sometimes he might fly off but we'll get him back he'll be okay. He can fly you must have like clipped the wings or something no he can fly he can fly but I get him back. He'll be okay. He can fly. You must have like clipped the wings or something. No, he can fly. He can fly, but I got him stuck. So he can only fly a short distance. Mike is really not one of your, Mike, not Mike. We're good.

We're good. We don't need to do that. All right. Oh, he's gonna fly. He's gonna fly. There he goes! Cool. That is not cool.

This is where he does his bad impression. That is not a noise i like to hear hahaha haha haha feel free to stay home we're good we're bringing this guy to the studio he's coming to the studio

we're gonna make him like... bod well it's a dan lebatard, we're done by animals. There's Dan and Stugots right there, doing their thing, brother. We're done by animals? That's a good point. Stugots, Dan, I think it's perfect, don't you?

Yeah. Maybe a little Cody injected in there? A little Cody. So obviously the Stugots ape jokes are pretty easy. Are these the type of monkeys that sling shit at each other? No, they don't. And first of all, they're not monkeys. So all the ones in the studio for the 24 hours are.

But this is again, Lebertard Show animated by Siamangs. Not monkeys. They don't have a tail. They can't be a monkey. They're a lesser ape. But we talk about the apes in the studio all the time, including Mr. Ryan right here. Yeah. One of the better looking apes. I'm proud of it. I'm proud of it. I didn't know that. That's what makes the difference between an ape and a monkey. Don't tell us the monkeys. Dan, tell us what you think brother. Oh look at that baby. Who's got a tongue like that? Not me, not you. Now Ron, obviously I don't think you got room in your transport vehicle to bring giraffes to the

studio. We're basically here because it makes for cool video as part of this whole teaser thing. But it's a good opportunity to talk about the cool experiences here at Zoo Miami because this is one of my favorite things to do with my daughter. Absolutely. This is probably the top interactive experience we have where you can come up, get on a platform, and you can look at a giraffe eye to eye. Look at those eyes. Look at that tongue. It's a great experience we can do. You can feed the lorikeets. You can come and feed a camel. So these are great experiences and our giraffe now have three babies out here. So it's a wonderful opportunity to come see the moms and their babies and the dad and these great eyelashes. And look at these great, I mean, tallest land mammal on earth, pregnancy of about 13 to 15 months. And you know

what? Baby falls four to six feet to the floor. Mom doesn't even lay down. It's incredible. Neck's almost as long as Drew Breeze's. Interesting fact. We've got seven bones in our neck. How many bones do you think a giraffe has in its neck? Eight. That was close, seven.

Oh really? Yeah, it's a trick question. Almost all mammals have seven bones in their neck. Just some of the bones are longer than others. Kind of feel like I've seen YouTube videos of two giraffes just absolutely going at it swinging their heads and fighting. That's true that's how the males fight for dominance. They swing their heads like a baseball bat against each other to try to knock each other down or try to knock each other at the feet but they don't kick they don't bite they just use their heads as battering rams to try to knock the other

one down for dominance. Here comes the the rest of herd out here now. So we're all getting good morning here at Zoo Miami. Got to come out and enjoy this and enjoy. Oh, you want one too? I know, I know. Look at the little slobber. She's drooling. Oh my gosh. Oh geez.

Can you believe this is my job? Uh, it's a great scam. Yeah. I work with animals. You work with animals. We know what it's like. Synergy. Synergy.

I imagine after 24 hours, we're going to be feeling a lot like this guy. Oh, yeah, you are going to be feeling like this guy. I got to tell you something, slowest mammal in the world. You know, walk that can only do about six feet a minute. Now they swim a lot better. So they swim a little better. Totally arboreal animal. Very well known. Let me see if I can get something else for him.

I'm going to do it. He's showing an interest in food here called the two-toed sloth. Here we go. Look at this. Look at that. They even eat slowly. Okay. But another wonderful animal here at the zoo. These guys were rescues. They actually were orphaned in Panama. We brought them down here. They've been here now for a few years and are thriving on one of our ambassador animals. He might be bringing them. I don't know. years and are thriving on one of our ambassador animals, we might be bringing them. I don't know. Look at this! The porcupine! So after 24 hours, I'm not really a normal morning person, so maybe I'll circumficially like this guy. I'm going to work in the animal puns pretty big here, Ron. I can tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Porcupine is just a big specialized

rodent. Really kind of interesting. These quills are actually modified hairs. They don't shoot their quills out like people think. They'll erect the quills and they'll back up into you real quickly and the quills at the end have little barbs on them and they get stuck and you can make a real nasty infection on you. But this guy here prehensile tail porcupine because this tail is actually what they can use as another arm, another finger, and they'll hang from the trees, they'll kind of stabilize themselves as they're up in the trees, and as you can tell he likes to eat a lot of stuff too. Ron, as you know, our time over at the mothership, this was one of those controversial moments. We tried to get a hippo named Dan Lebatard, we thought we had it, then we lost it, and I mean you guys

ended up winning out because there was a sizable donation made but exactly after all those years we finally got a hippo named after Dan and this is Dan Levitard the hippo. Dan Levitard the hippo for all the people that keep writing me and emailing me and messaging me they want to know how Dan's doing and we thought it'd be a great opportunity to show you he's got a beautiful exhibit he goes out there on but this is the barn that he sleeps in at night. And what we wanted to do is we wanted to show the people how well Dan is doing, how nice and rotund Dan is maintaining, how he still loves to eat. Though I think the real Dan, does he eat lettuce

or he's more like... I'm not unlike the real Dan. All he does is claim to eat lettuce, yet he still gets fatter and fatter. But the bottom line is, listen, Dan is one of the nicest pygmy hippos I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. I'm confused, which one are we talking about? This particular one right here, the one I don't get to work with the real Dan as much as you get to work with the real Dan, so you'll have to speak on that behalf.

This Dan here, we see him here, he's become quite a crowd favorite and he has raised a significant amount of money to help his cousins in the wild which has been a great thing something that we're proud to be associated with you know the endowment the the Ramagill conservation endowment has already provided over $10,000 for Piggy Hippo Research thanks to Dan Leventard thanks to the Dan Leventard show thanks to the incredible crew over there this is just a beautiful moment for all of us. Get the other half of this, put it over your shoulders. Get the back half.

Alright, get the back half, put it over your shoulders. Or pick it up in front of you. Whatever you're going to do. Take a little weight off of me, brother. Oh, Jesus. Okay, okay. So, I think I'm bringing this guy to the studio too, Mike. This is the vision I have.

I have this vision of the whole team getting together and we wrapping the snake around the whole team for a group shot. Yeah, it'll be beautiful. Yeah. Oh, look see they have that little tongue. No, Mike Mike Mike Let me show you something. This is a male. Look at these guys. Oh god That's the no that's not what you think you know These are actually the Stygian limbs Mike and what the male does is he uses that to scratch the back of the female to convince her to lift her tail so you know you don't have to look directly into my eyes when you're saying this is a Burmese python it's not a vinyl Burmese python it's about I don't know 12 14 feet I read about these things being problems in the end

it's very heavy I've got the bulk of it Mike you're holding the back half of the tail. You can honestly take the back half too. Mike, I'm good. You bringing this guy to the studio? I'm gonna bring it to the studio. I think I'm pretty convinced I want to bring this guy to the studio and the group shot is gonna be the whole team. We'll wrap it around. Yeah. You know I did it with LeBron, with Yaddi and bro a lot of luck to them. So you have it just casually around your neck and I've seen an anaconda before. Yeah, yeah, no, well, you wouldn't do that with a wild snake. This is a snake that we've raised.

I've got people here to help me. You shouldn't decide to constrict your arm or leg. But you normally would not hold a snake this way, but I have to have the shoulders because of the weight. It's a hundred pound snake, so it's, you know. This is the one that LeBron put around his shoulders? This is the one. This is the very one.

This is the very one. So, he's coming to the studio. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. I'm going to go get him. This is the one that LeBron put around his shoulders? This is the one. This is the very one. This is the very one. So, nobody's coming to the studio, huh? Coming to the studio, man. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

You'll never have eyes like an owl. Okay, FAU, nine seed. They're the interloper in this final four, right? Half of the, 90% of the country is going Saying fa you what so here's the chant. Are you ready? Are you ready? We might not be ready for hot night hold on I'm speaking'm speaking to the rest of the country. You say who, we say hoot. You say who, we say hoot. You say who, we say hoot.

You say who, we say hoot. Hoot! Thank you. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. That's the way it goes. What are you doing? He's doing an owl. He's doing an actual owl. He's doing an actual owl.

He's doing an actual owl sound, a better owl sound. Okay. Then you say who, we say hoot. Hoot, hoot, thank you. Billy, I don't like- It's kind of a shocker. It does, thank you. You're enjoying how terrible this is.

I don't think it's going to get off the ground. The owl in FAU Owls is the burrowing owl, which is a very small owl, but I think of all owls as being mean and ornery. What can you tell us about the burrowing owl? Oh, it's a, of course, a terrestrial owl. It's not a big flyer, except when it's hunting. They tend to be underground as opposed to almost other owls

that are more arboreal. Owls in general, though, and I know that you're not gonna wanna hear this, but generally speaking, we always hear about the wise old owl I've talked to this about before. They have very large eyes. Those eyes are so large,

they take up so much space in the skull, there's very little space for the brain. So they're not the most intelligent bird, actually one of the least intelligent of all birds. Having said that, they are nocturnal, they have incredible eyesight. If you had the eyes of an owl, you could read a newspaper 100 yards away

to give you an idea of how keen that eye is. That can't be true. That can't be true. That's what the news media is. Yeah. How could anyone have tested that, Ron? They test the fovea of the eye, they taste the, what do they call it, the rods in the eyes?

The eye people who know more than I do about eyes tell me that's the case. That's what they can focus on. They've tested that. They also had incredible hearing. Now I've done this test myself at the University of Florida where we took an owl, we covered its ears so it could not hear anything,

covered it, I mean, covered its eyes rather, so it could not see anything, released a mouse in a pitch black room and that owl flew from 30 yards away and landed right on that mouse, just from hearing the mouse. So it's flipping unbelievable the kind of hearing they have. Now keep in mind their ears are different than ours. We've got you know one ear on each side of our head kind of parallel to each other but owls have one ear on the top part on the left side and

on the bottom part on the right side. So they're able to triangulate sound better than we can and that's how they can find their prey using sound alone. So they're incredible birds that way. They have very specialized feathers in their wings. So when they flap their wings, they make no sound. They have silencer feathers in their wings. So when they're flying, so when they're flying, you know, a mouse is eating on the ground and all of a sudden, if you're a chicken, you're flying, flop, flop, flop, the mouse is going to go in coming.

I'm out of here. But with the owl, it's like the stealth bomber. They're unbelievable that way. What is the quietest of the animals as a hunter? It's got to be the owl. Absolutely the quietest. Oh, yeah. Okay. I've seen huge owls, big great horned owls fly across the room and I cannot hear and I'm listening for them. You cannot hear a single thing. It's absolutely silence.

Special feathers in the way. Ron McGill joins us from his home. I'm gonna take a tour of the things behind him in a moment because his home is filled, it's replete with skulls and bones and all sorts of precious historical artifacts. Ron, what do you regard as the most interesting thing in your home behind you presently right now? I know I can see some, I see some bones,

I see some horns in the background. What's happening around you? I'm gonna get on my seat for a second. Hold on. Yeah, we'll wait for you He does have all sorts of skulls in there as well a lot of wood I see this that's a narwhal horn. Holy shit How big is that? Almost six feet maybe That's a narwhal horn! How big is that? That's about almost six feet maybe. Jeez. That looks cool.

That's really cool. Oh, look at that! Whoa! They don't, now they don't, they don't use that as a weapon, do narwhals? What does it use for? What does it? Hold on a second, I gotta put it back here.

Hold on, put it back, hold on. Why do you have that in your home? It seems like it's taking up a lot of space. Where is that? It's hanging over the sliding doors that look outside into the yard. Anyway, so no walls, you know, the males, they get the really long ones and they use it. They found to stun fish. They will use it to stun fish and they use it kind of as an attraction to the females. The longer horns get more females. Who do you regard as the most matter?

Size matters with no wars nor walls. Not necessarily with humans, though. Who do you think is the most interesting of the whales? Wow, that's a hard one to answer. Um, you know, nor walls are certainly interesting, but I think belugas are really fascinating. All the whales to me, all the cetaceans are very fascinating animals. You know, you gotta look at the blue whale. Jesus Christmas, the largest animal that's ever lived,

bigger than any dinosaur than any animal has ever lived, is still living on this planet, the blue whale. You think what of the whales in general? How smart are they? I don't know that we've spent a lot of time talking about the whales. Their eating habits or many of them are unusual or different than I would have expected. Well, yes, you know, like a lot of time talking about the whales, their eating habits, or many of them are unusual or different than I would have expected.

Well, yes, you know, like a lot of whales, I'd have to go to another room to show it to you, but I mean like, whales that we call toothed whales, and we have baleen whales. And I have actually baleen from a whale, which is like this huge piece of like keratin with filters on it, like hairs. And that's how they collect all the food that they eat.

The biggest whales, blue whales, humpback whales, these are baleen whales. They don't have teeth. They don't eat big fish like people would think. They siphon food out of the water, shrimp and different types of invertebrates and things like that. It's really kind of cool stuff.

But all the whales to me are incredibly intelligent. I've said it on the show before. I don't believe that whales should ever be in captivity. I believe that these animals are pelagic, they're nomadic, and I don't believe you should ever take a whale out of the wild and put it in captivity, unless you're trying to save that individual animal's life. What do you regard as the most creative of the hunters

in the sea kingdom? Oh, that got to be the killer whales guys that you know we talked about it before you watch these killer whales they work like teamwork you know you'll see a seal on an iceberg saying okay I'm safe the kid they can't get to me on the iceberg and all these killer whales get together and they get all right next to each other and they create this huge wave like a tidal wave so the tidal wave hits the iceberg knocks the seal off and the

whales on the other side waiting for it. Boom they eat it. I mean think about that. Think about the thought process that goes into this. Well okay let's get together here. Let's make this wave. We'll knock the seal off. We'll have one of our buddies with the other side and grab them. Come on guys. This is so amazing. Ron there was an incredible close-up footage on a boat where somebody was videotaping a humpback whale breach out of the water Maybe like 30 feet away from them Can you explain to us how big that would be like with us just looking at it here like how enormous is that animal? I've had that happen. I've had a whale a humpback whale breached literally probably less than 30 feet

Maybe closer to 20 feet next to the boat. It is one of the most exhilarating things you can ever closer to 20 feet next to the boat. It is one of the most exhilarating things you can ever imagine. It's look at me, Louie, because you've had that happen to you as a sentence you love to utter around here. And it's good sentence. I'm just trying to tell you I'm not speaking. I'm not speaking from something I saw on television. I'm trying to relate to you that this is something that's really it's hard to describe in words, guys, when something that massive comes out of, and there's no like, there's no alert,

there's no saying, okay, he's coming up on this side, now get ready, get ready, no. All of a sudden it's just, whoosh, the thing comes out of the water and it's so huge, it's so amazing, it's exhilarating. I don't think that, you know, I don't feel like for instance, oh my God, we're gonna die. I never feel fear.

It's one of these things where you just feel wow, just absolute wow, just absolute. Wow. How rare numerically is it Ron for a whale to Accidentally be breaching water trying to eat something else and by accident a canoe gets stuck in their mouth and a human being Is accidentally harmed by this? I mean, it's probably one of the rarest things on the planet. So that's a Pinocchio. You have a canoe being near a whale. I mean, I've seen you've seen the videos all over the place. You think I'm kidding. I've seen it happen very close.

I has happened. It has happened where a whale has hit a boat coming up. But it's so profoundly rare, guys. I mean, these whales are usually generally very aware of what's above them. They know what's going on. They avoid those types of things, but sometimes they get so caught up in the feeding that they may get caught up, especially if you're in something like a small kayak

or something like that. Certainly there's an issue there. There's a potential danger there, but it's incredibly rare. I mean, this is like, you know, forget about it. I don't even think about it anymore. Much more likely to get struck by lightning. So they don't do it on purpose.

Oh, geez. Hit the knock. Ron, what are security measures at the zoo? Because fences seem an obvious one, but also how often do people try and take stuff from the zoo? Well, I'll tell you, you know, years ago, probably 20 something years ago, we had some of our ambassador show birds stolen out of the amphitheater.

Somebody broke into the amphitheater, bypassed the alarm system and stole these birds. And you know, the thought comes to mind right away, there's a huge black market for these atoms. These were our talking parrots that did the shows, they were kind of our stars of the show. There's a huge black market for that. These small Emperor Tamarins also have a

huge black market as a matter of I guess, one of the reasons they're threatened in the wild is because they're, you know, raped out of the jungle and sold as pets, and they do not make good pets. People don't understand that. You know, people look at the picture, they go, Oh, my god, they're so cute. These Emperor Tamarins have these huge long white like mustaches that come out. And they are adorable to look at. They're absolutely incredibly looking animals, but they don't make good pets.

And, you know, anybody who thinks, you know, if it's one of these extremists, oh, I'm just going to set them free because they deserve to be free. Well, no, you may have condemned it to death by letting it out. Dallas and 30 degree weather. Ron, we find ourselves in a heated MVP debate this morning. Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, who's the MVP? So I'm asking you, who's the MVP of the zoo? I need three animals, give me a bronze, a silver, and a gold

of just the MVP of your zoo. Hmm. Ha ha ha ha. Well, that's a hard one. That's a, that really is a hard one. You know, I would go, probably our first MVP is gonna be, the gold is, well, let's go, probably our first MVP is gonna be, the gold is, well, let's go out and start with the bronze.

The bronze is gonna be Goliath, the Galapagos tortoise, because he's an animal that is the oldest animal in the zoo. He's over a hundred years old. He's one of the animals that select guests can go in and meet him and touch him and scratch his neck. And have him stand on top. He likes his neck, yeah, I've done it before. He likes his neck scratched.

He's done that before. So that makes a big impression. So he would get the bronze. I'm going with the silver. I guess it's gonna be Barani. Barani's our male Sumatran tiger. And it's that first impression. You know, it's the first main exhibit on the right hand side,

that big tiger temple. And when you look at Barani and his massiveness and his strength, that leaves a really good first impression of coming to the zoo. But I want to give the gold to Malcolm the giraffe. Because Malcolm is the giraffe that'll come right up to that feeding platform, stick out that 20 inch tongue, wrap it around your hand, take that piece of leaf

from your hand and a little carrot slice. And man, that leaves an indelible impression baby. When you see that 20 inch purple tongue come out and you're looking eye to eye at an animal that stands 17 feet tall, that makes an impression. He gets the gold. The excitement of taking photos in the wild. Ron what are your favorite photographed moments like that? You still have the same enthusiasm after all these years and I see it in your pictures.

You can see it, how much you love the animals and how you convey it in your art. You are, I don't know if people know this and Ron is terribly humble about this, but Ron is one of, I'm not making this up Ron, right? Like you are one of the world's most distinguished or decorated animal photographers, correct? Don't be humble about this, you just are, correct?

I'm a wildlife photographer. I've been very fortunate to be, you know, given the label of a Nikon ambassador for Nikon USA, which is, you know, to me, the premier photographic company in the world. So, but there are many, many great photographers. I'm not as much a great photographer, Dan, as I am a very lucky person to be in places

where you really can't take a bad photograph. So I'm very lucky to be. Okay, but how many of those, Nikon gives out how many of those? You are an ambassador. I was one of the original 12. Okay, so you're being false. You're being, yes, you're being modest,

but he is modest. And so you're one of the original 12. And I've been telling you for a while that you should be selling your photographs here to help your endowment. But when you talk about the flamingos and these photographs, what specifically about it do you love? Is it that in your photographs,

I could see the love that you have for animals? I think what I see is a lot of times I can see things, you know, with a still photograph, you're picturing basically you're freezing a thousandth of a second and and that is something that sometimes you don't even get to see with your naked eye and so I get to see certain behaviors I see certain subtle things that these animals do in these still photographs that that teach me more about them and every time I take a photograph it just preserves a moment that'll never happen exactly that way again and quite frankly Dan I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but I'm very lucky in the sense that I have a memory, a photographic memory in that every photograph that I take,

you can show me a photograph that I took 15 years ago in Africa. And when I see the photograph, I remember taking it. I remember where I was. I even sometimes remember what it smelled like when I took it. So this is just something that I've been very lucky to have that gift. Because like I say, I'm not smart in any other way, but it's just a lucky gift that I have. So photography just connects me to nature.

It just lets me see things, subtle things in nature and helps preserve those moments. And it's my greatest tool when I have to try to teach people to care about nature too. Ron, I'd like to do some of this with you because I'd like this to be a little more of an audio and video experience. I don't know whether you have,

do you have any of these photographs in your office or let's see them. Okay, so all the pink mustache is being helpful here. This photograph that Jessica is showing us of this lion, tell us the backstory, tell us the backstory of this photograph, it's beautiful. That is in the Okavango Delta in Botswana. This was a male lion.

I am leaning low in the bottom of a Toyota Land Cruiser and it's just walking up to me. The sun is just rising, which is that great side light. And it just slowly started taking step by step by step. And it kind of saw its reflection in the face of my lens. So it's just looking at me and wondering whether it's looking at me and wondering whether it's looking at what it thinks is another lion. So there's that moment there of just that

anticipation, a little bit of anxiety, but it's just electric. You know, there's that old saying that says, you know, life isn't measured by the number of breaths that you take. It's measured by the number of times your breath is taken away. And when you have a lion like that standing literally 10, 15 feet in front of you, staring right at you like that. And it's just got this incredible look. I mean, just the light and the smell of the Okavango Delta at sunrise, man, I'll tell you, I remember that photograph very well. It really made quite an impression on me. Jessica's going to show you another one now, but before she does last week,

you just sort of casually mentioned, I don't think I had heard this story from you before that there was a time that you were facing off sort of against a silverback gorilla like that. I don't, I heard you correctly, right? There was a lot happening because the professor we were talking to was describing my ass. But anyway, go ahead. And yes, but I just expound on that.

Thank you. I didn't mean to trigger this side of you again. But can you explain that to us? I was actually, you know, one of my dreams, Dan, growing up, I used to watch the National Geographic Specials. I'll never forget watching Diane Fossey and the Varunga volcanoes with these mountain gorillas coming up to her, being able to be next to them. This is an animal that, you know, so many people have this preconceived notion that

it's King Kong is this massive, you know, aggressive, dangerous animal. And yet I saw this gentle giant with Diane Fossey and I always dreamed about seeing that myself. And this was the first time I was able to go to Rwanda into the Virunga volcanoes. And I was sitting there watching this incredible troop of mountain gorillas when one of them came right up to me. Now you're supposed to keep a 15 foot distance

between you and the gorillas, because you don't want to have anything, you know, transmit to the animals. There's zoonotic diseases where you can give something a cold or something to the animal. You're not supposed to be on the mountain anywhere if you have any kind of sickness. But anyway, you try to keep your distance. But if the gorilla comes to you, you do not turn and run. What you have to do is you just kind of get into the fetal position. Don't look at the gorilla. Don't make any threatening moves or sounds. There's

a sound that you do make to calm the gorilla down. It kind of goes, the guides make that sound and that's kind of a comforting sound to the gorillas. So I'm sitting there going and this gorilla came sat right next to me and all of a sudden she leaned over to me and with her lips, she just tugged on my earlobe and I can feel her, she's breathing in my nose, she's like, and you feel that and it's just something electricity there and I'm honestly telling you that I never thought for one second she was going to kill me or she was going to hurt me. I just couldn't believe I was there. And I took my camera. I had a wide angle lens on it. I just took a blind shot, not looking at this. I can't look at the gorilla.

That's a threat. You can't look at these primates that way. It's a threat. And I just took a shot and I have this shot. You can't really see my face, but you can see the gorilla right next to me, this wide angle lens. And it's just one of those moments again, Dan, when you just, you can't pay me enough to forget that moment of this incredible majestic animal sitting gently next to me and curiously

just kind of investigating my earlobe with her lips. It was just phenomenal. Ron, you have to be shitting me. Nevermind, I didn't know you had a photograph of this. I don't know where that photograph is. I would like to see that photograph, but how are you not scared in that moment? I understand you trust the animals

and you know the animals, but Ron, this is the wilderness and this animal can kill you in nine seconds. You know, Dan, I don't know. I just think it's my fascination and my wonder that overrides the fear. You know, I've never, I've never, you know, the only time I was ever really frightened and I told that story before is when that elephant

came at us in the Goro Goro crater in Tanzania. That was something that I knew I could really be in trouble and I thought for, I really thought for a while there I was not gonna live through that. But you know, any other thing, I understand the gorillas are these gentle giants and this was not a male that came up to me, it was a female.

And females are much more inquisitive. They're much less aggressive. You know, the male might tend to be aggressive if he feels you're threatening the troop. But this was a female. And Dan, this is one of the rarest animals in the world. At that time, there were probably less than 500 mountain gorillas in the world. And here's one sitting next to me on this mountain that I had watched on National Geographic, the same mountain that Diane Fossey stood, you know, sat on, working with these gorillas. That's a magical connection. I mean, you know, you could look, you know, as a journalist and think, God, this is like, you know, sitting at the desk of Edward R.

Morrow and talking to these people. I mean, I don't know, it's not a good analogy, I guess. But for me, it was just so exciting to have such an incredible animal, such a majestic animal, and yet such a gentle giant. Next, I really never was afraid. It was an adrenaline rush. I'm not going to tell you, my heart wasn't beating over 200 beats a minute, but it was, it was not out of fear. It was just adrenaline. Give me another moment like that, Ron, because I wanna straddle the space between fear and just gratitude. Give me a moment of spiritual serenity that we might look at and say,

oh my God, that's crazy that Ron would allow that to happen near a dangerous animal or an animal that we think is dangerous. Do you have another story like that? Because I've not heard the one you just told. That situation sounds horrifying and it sounds something like you would advise others to be very careful if they were in that situation. I, you know, when I say be careful, yes, do not want to look up and look at the

gorilla because that would be a threat, but I knew that I knew just to keep myself in the, in a fetal position, take the photograph and yet I could just feel her lips gently tugging on my earlobe and the feeling of just Lowing into my ears smelling smelling me probably thinking I stink Whereas you know the gorilla to me wasn't the greatest smelling animal in the world But another another incident I'll give you actually happened in the Masai Mar in Kenya And this was an elephant we were in the middle of a herd of a large herd of elephants probably about 30 40 elephants mothers With calves and all of a sudden this calf came walking closer to the vehicle. And, you know, one of the most dangerous times to be around an elephant is a

mother with her calf, because they're very protective of their calves. So this calf came walking over and you could tell the mother was looking at it. And then all of a sudden the mother came between the calf and the vehicle, but to the point where she was literally five feet from the vehicle, and I'm just standing there trying to stand perfectly still. And then the trunk comes over and it reaches over and just, you hear the trunk again and kind of touches the side of the vehicle. And I could feel the whiskers. I'm not moving.

I've got my arm on the top of the, of the, of the Land Cruiser and I could feel the whiskers of the trunk and everybody's just saying, stay still. Don't make any moves. That's a big adrenaline rush there too. But I think, I mean, this is going to sound like a little stupid and people are going to, oh, you know, Ron, that's ridiculous. I just really felt that that elephant knew that we were not

there to harm her, that she was just kind of scoping out. And there was a way that she could sense that we were not a threat. And then she continued to eat and let us photograph her calf and be close to her calf. And that's kind of a very special feeling when an animal accepts you into its environment without thinking of you as a threat. Folks, did you know that sleep is one of the most important parts of recovery? Whether you're a pro athlete or just looking to crush your day, getting that

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and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this. Stugatz. That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to. We all just stared at you. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the StuGats. Who live in a studio? Let's go ahead and get to the unveiling here and the discomfort of Greg Cody who's moving, squirming around in his chair.

I'm going to the other room. No, you gotta stay here. Why do I have to stay here? Because you're under contract for this show. It's the point of what we're doing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a bad idea. What do you mean? Now there are people barricading the door.

I can't get out. Enough! I don't come to work for this! Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ran clear out the studio. What a coward. He ran clear past Frankie. He injured Mike's arm. He's in the garage. The barricading did not work. He knocked over a table here.

He broke a camera. No, he's legitimately scared. It's so strange. So very strange. Oh god. It's not right that you guys give these animals a bad label. You ran at him with that animal and waved it in his face. I'm gonna put my headphones back on. Lay this thing. Don't worry Greg. I'm not gonna let it hurt you. It's looking right at Greg.

Look at Greg. Greg is so cute. Don't move it Greg. Just stay still. I want you to look at this animal. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful animal. Ron, you ran at him with that animal. I want you to understand. Is that a snake in your pants,

or are you just happy to see me? Boy, all hell is breaking loose here. Yeah, it just killed the microphone. No, it's not. It's good, it's good, look. Greg, listen. First of all, this is a ball python. It's a non-venomous snake.

Oh, thank God. It's a non-venomous snake. I wouldn't bring a venomous snake out here. And don't want to I don't want to stugas to run scared like that I wanted to understand once you understand an animal you realize it's not everything you think it is first of all It looks slimy right? Yeah, it's not I'm gonna ask Dan to touch. I'm not gonna ask Greg to touch it because he already told me No, is it slimy Dan? No, no, not at all. I would touch it. Just not near the Bring security with him? He just brought Frankie with him. He brought the camera. He broke the camera and everything. He did knock over a camera running out of here.

But more importantly, he knocked over your wonderful social media person there. I mean he hurt her. She can sue you Stugatz. Assault. HR. Mike, were you surprised by the strength of Stugatz's fear opening the door you had barricaded? I wasn't expecting it. I was trying to lock it conventionally and he came going for it and yeah, it was like that mom strength. It would have been such good video if he had stayed in the studio. Oh, now it's coming. It was security. Oh, look at him, how brave he is. He ran right through the door. There's an outline of his body on the door right now. Franklin, let him come in. Let him come in.

Franklin's going to protect you. Franklin's going to protect you. Franklin's going to protect you. Franklin's going to protect you. Franklin's gonna protect you Franklin's gonna protect you Franklin's gonna protect you okay Frankie you gotta go in front of me Frankie close the door behind him I got you Stu. I got you. I got you Stu. Look Stu guts. Look at me. Stu guts let him drape it on your shoulders. Stu guts. Stu guts. Let him drape it on your shoulders it's non half, half and half. Let him drape it on your shoulders. It's non-venomous. You have your snake, I have mine. Couple snakes, cut it up.

Snakes are important animals. This is really, he's serious. No, he is serious. He's not acting, but he's also not giving us the payoff we need because he's a total coward. Why are snakes important, Ron? You know why? Because they control vermin. They have a massive contribution to controlling rodents

and other animals that pass on tremendous diseases, do tremendous damage to crops. They are totally misunderstood. I don't want StuGust to have this feeling. Now, saying that, I don't want anybody, especially kids who are watching the show, don't think, oh, there's a snake. Ron says it's okay, go pick it up.

No, don't do that either. Don't do that. But they're safe, and to prove how safe they are Greg's got to put it around its neck no you know Greg already asked me don't don't ask me to touch it okay and I respect that from Dan so great you can put it around my neck sure no problem yeah Ron I have a question about be the first time you've been lugging the snake around I've been doing it for 18 years go Go ahead, Billy, what's the question? Well, his headphones are on, he can't hear me.

I'll repeat your question to him. Because he says that it's not venomous, it's not gonna bite you, but should there be a fear that that snake decides to strangle you? Because snakes sometimes will kind of wrap around you. I'd like to see that snake try. Yeah.

There he goes right at him. Oh no, no, no, it's right by his mouth. Danimong has created your eyes. There's no risk of this snake strangling me. Well how do you know that? I'm right here, that's why. I'm right here. I'm here. Is there like a release valve? What are you talking about? I am right here, the snake is totally...

As a matter of fact, see how it's calm right now? Because Dan emits body heat. And when he emits the body heat, it calms the snake down. It gets rejuvenated by the body heat. It's a little cool in the studio here. So you see the tongue flicking out? Listen, you don't get any cooties from the tongue. The tongue is basically,

it's collecting little chemical particles in the air that go back into the mouth. And there's an organ in the roof of the mouth of all snakes called the Jacobson's organ. It's like a little computer and it tells the snake what's around it. So guys, if you just understand these animals, you would have a much greater appreciation for them. They really are fascinating. So many snakes get persecuted because of people like

Stugats! This snake is pretty strong, heavy and strong. That's what I'm saying, be careful what if it strangles you. Wow. Are there are there snakes other than the boa that that can strangle people to death? Are there other kinds of snakes that can do that, Ron? Absolutely. There are several types of constrictors, large constrictors. There are a big group of boas, there are pythons, pliskens. These are all many species that occur in those two groups that have the capability of constricting a person. Ron, quick question. Do snakes have ears? No, that's a good question. Snakes do not have ears. Snakes do not have external ears

as we know them, so they can never hear anything. Another thing snakes don't have is they don't have eyelids, so they can't close their eyes. Okay, well you did it. They can't close their eyes. So that's why they always look like they're awake, but they're not. They can sleep with their eyes open. So they don't have external ears, of course they don't have legs, but they do have the remnants of a pelvis. So there's actually these little spurs here. This is a female, so her spurs are small, but males have bigger spurs and those are

actually vestigial legs from when snakes actually had legs. People think snakes are so old because they don't have legs that they evolved to grow legs. No, they evolved to lose their legs, so they're actually an advanced type of reptile. Pete Put it on the poll please, Juju, at Lebatard Show. Did you know that snakes had a pelvis? Ron, thrilling to have you here in studio. I'm sorry that Stugatz is such a coward and that he misrepresents the animal kingdom by not listening to anything you've said for the entire time you've been on with us.

He doesn't listen, he just has this fear. He has this fear. Animals are incredible guys, you just need to understand them. I'm not saying be careless with them, don't put yourself at risk. Just understand them. Ron, what's the most exotic animal you've ever eaten? Geez. Good question. I don't know if it would be the most exotic or the strangest. And I don't know if most people would classify as an animal. I do. but it was this massive beetle in the Amazonian forest that I was with a group of indigenous people an indigenous tribe in the forest and this

was part of their diet and they also had a massive maggot for lack of a better term it's kind of a larval stage that you know was put into kind of a hot fryer and given to me to eat and I ate it out of respect to the people. You gotta be disrespectful there. You gotta be disrespectful. No, you gotta give it a try. And in all fairness, it was not as awful as I thought it was going to be.

I really thought it was just gonna be a repulsive flavor. Everyone says that. And the grub, especially the big larva, the big maggot, was actually, there was a little bit of almost sweetness to it that wasn't bad. It's the palatability of it though, you know, kind of, and the fact is when I ate it, it was kind of still alive, so it was moving when it went in your mouth.

That kind of made a little bit of a... Just need some salt and pepper. You gotta be... The key thing is you gotta fight it, eat it right away. You know, these people don't, they do, but I did not savor it. I did not like to... Okay, put it on the pole, please, Roy, at LeBittard Show.

Are you eating the sweet fried maggot or are you disrespecting the indigenous people? We've talked about this before, though. Easy one. To eat something terrible, you just deep fry it, and that saves you a lot. So I'm surprised that they actually deep fried it. The deep frying was for the big beetle.

That was deep frying. They deep fried it till it almost popped deep frying was for the big beetle. That was deep fried. They deep fried it till it almost popped like a kernel of popcorn. The maggot was not fried. It was alive. It was like right out of the husk of the tree. The incredible senses of animals. I'm talking about the sense of smell.

Okay. Right now polar bear. Sense of smell is unflipping believable. A polar bear can smell a seal five miles away. Five miles away. Now you're all looking I see shaking your head. Oh, no, well, all that stuff. Tony was saying all that stuff. Yeah, I got it. Okay. Okay. Okay, they can do it. If you look at the nasal bones, the terminate bones in the nose of a polar bear, it looks like this. Thank you. The holes everywhere. There's all these little

funky bones. There's so much surface area that they can pick up smell. I suppose you look at a human skull, they have hardly any terminate bones. And we think we can smell. We can't do anything compared to a polar bear, okay? The sense of touch. Think about things. How animals use their sense of touch for different things.

Look at raccoons. Raccoons use their sense of touch for food. They can feel things in holes. They can pretty much determine anything with their sense of touch. Their sense of touch is incredibly important to them. Okay, sense of sight. We're gonna go to any bird of prey.

Whether you talk about an owl, you talk about an eagle, you talk about an animal that can read a newspaper 100 yards away, even though Tony says it to Muella. It's not, they can do it. Or if they could read, assuming they can read. That's a big assumption, of course you're taking a stretch there. But the bottom line is they can make the details

out of those little letters on a newspaper from 100 yards away. They have an eagle can spot a mouse from almost half a mile in the air. Spot a mouse in the grass. Come on, guys, this is unbelievable stuff. Okay? Now the taste, I don't know about the taste. I don't know what's going to have the taste type thing going on there.

So I don't know. Well, you can pick another one of the senses and double up on another one of the senses if you need to adhere to With the bats I mean what bats can do with your hearing is unbelievable echolocation They make the sound and they can bounce it back and the ears look at the close-ups of bats Look at the shapes and sizes of their ears. They look like aliens, man. It's unbelievable.

And the way they can move it back and forth are like big radar dishes. That is freaking unbelievable when you look at what a bat can do with its hearing. So we got hearing, we got smell, we got sight, we got touch, the fifth one. What's the fifth one? Well, no, you already said taste is not useful here.

So go ahead to one of the... What is second most amazing on any of those that you're just- Well, it's gonna be smell and it's gonna be, you know, you look at some of these dogs that can smell cancer in a person. Think about this guys. They can, stop it Chris.

Why aren't they doctors? Why are you saying that it's not impossible? I'm just amazed, I'm not questioning. I didn't know that. I just didn't know that. They can be doctors. They have proven that there are dogs that can smell ovarian cancer in a person

before it's even determined. What? Okay? Before it's even diagnosed medically, they can smell ovarian cancer. This is unbelievable stuff, guys. Animals can save our lives if we just give them the credit and the opportunity. So how would a dog respond to react

if they smelled cancer? Like, what would be the sign? The way they teach them, the way they teach them is they teach them to alert, and the way they alert is they just sit. They would walk, let's say you put five women in a row, one has already been diagnosed,

or one has the ovarian cancer, the dog will walk by all five women, when it gets to the woman who has cancer, he sits right in front of her. That's his alert saying, she's got it. How do they teach? I saw a currency dog. Evidently there's a lot of money

going from Miami to Los Angeles. Now, I did not know that there were currency dogs. I thought they were searching for drugs. How do they teach a dog to have the sense of smell necessary so that they can discover things like cancer or money? Well, what they do is they'll take things like cancer cells, if we're going to go to the stream with cancer, okay, and they'll put it with other objects and they wait for the dog to smell and they reward the dog for smelling the cancer. So the dog's not saying, I smell cancer, you need to take care of this person. The dog is doing something because it knows it's going to get rewarded for it. It's called bridging. We bridge when we teach animals to do things. When we see a behavior that we find favorable, we reward the animals. So what they'll do is they'll put money, let's say,

put money in one bag and all the other bags have nothing. When the dog goes to the money, he gets rewarded. That's called a bridge. Right away, okay, you get money, boom. So then the dog learns, hey, when I go to the money, I get rewarded. And then you just reinforce that behavior. You keep causing different bridges to connect the animal to whatever

you're trying to teach it. So the animal is not saying, I'm a specialist in smelling cancer. No, I'm a specialist in smelling drugs. No, we teach a dog that has an incredible sense of smell to pinpoint that one thing. That becomes a drug specialist dog. He's been rewarded.

Like we wouldn't have a dog doing drugs and cancer at the same time, because then the dog's confused. So we teach the dog, this is what your specialty is. As soon as you determine that this is that, you will get rewarded and that's how it works. Ron, good seeing you. A reminder to the audience that has always been very strong.

No bureaucracy when it comes to Ron McGill's substantive endowment. If you wanna help the animals, he is doing it. You can search on the internet. It's easy to find if you want to support the things that Ron is supporting. The love for the animals is real. Thank you, sir.

All right, guys, take care. Tony, missing you on the court, brother. Likewise. What should I eat and how to creature in your dog? Ron, I have a question for you. So there are three sort of main animals that are accepted in the popular culture as sort of being okay or four I guess. Chickens, cows, pigs, and fish. We've all kind of as society agreed,

it's not gross to eat those things and those things are delicious to go with a lot of meals. Is there one that we're missing? Is there something where people go oh that's weird that you'd eat that but it would be a good versatile dish with a lot of different flavors, with a lot of different kinds of food. What for you is the animal that humans don't eat that we should? Well, it's not that humans don't eat it, but most people look at it as some type of weird, exotic food. Alligator. Hmm. Really? Ostrich. Yeah. Ostrich also really good quality meat, no fat and high in protein.

What about human? Jesus Christmas. Who's that? Cody? Did he just say that? Yeah. Wasn't me. No, Cody.

That's called cannibalism. Yeah. But do we know if it's good? Jesus Christmas. I mean, desperate times. We're just asking. Yeah, it is. It is desperate times.

Where's Levitard? Damn, I need him. No, just in desperate times, in desperate times. I would have asked that with him here. Yeah. Okay, so. And I would have followed up, I mean. Ron, the reason why I ask that is because a food blogger was fined $18,500 after posting a video

after buying, preparing, and eating a great white shark. Is great white shark. Yeah, because great white sharks are protected species. Hang on a second. because the great white sharks are protected species. Hang on a second. Why are great white sharks a protected species? Yeah, they should not protect those animals. They're apex predators. Like they eat everything. You can occasionally show them who's boss. They need protection.

They're also protected guys. Why are they protected? Because they're a comparative part of the food chain. They keep populations in balance. If you don't have white sharks eating things like seals and sea lions, the seals and sea lions get out of proportion, they start eating all the fish. Fishermen are not catching any fish. You start losing the tourism industry and fish.

People are not getting enough fish in their diet. It's just a domino effect, guys. I think things are very important. The great whites are eating the fishermen. What now? Great whites are eating the fishermen. I saw that actually. Oh, jeez, guys.

We were wondering, Chris was really pressing him on this. And I don't blame them. But Greg is saying because he has a dog, he's less than one year old, I think, that he cannot leave them in a cage for four consecutive hours because it's a really bad thing. So how long can you, I'm really checking on Greg Cody and whether or not he just felt like leaving a couple hours early today. What's the longest you can leave a dog in a cage

and feel good about it? I've left, when I first get a dog, a puppy, I leave him in the kennel overnight, over eight hours. The gaffy. To teach him, that's how you kennel train a dog so that he knows to hold it because dogs instinctively, even as puppies, they don't want to defecate a urinate where they sleep

So he'll hold it in that kennel until you open the hand then you take him for a walk immediately And that's how you slowly but surely puppy train an animal out of the crate my dog my dad claims That he gets home after four hours and the dog shits and poops in the cage and that's why shits and poops He says yeah, he says that's why Peas and poops in the cage. And that's why- Shits and poops? He says, yeah, he says that's why he- Oh my bad, pees and poops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, you know, he may have- Or he just wanted to leave early. Uh, he may have just wanted to leave early. He may just hate my segment and not want to be there. No, he loves your segment. Sonidos sensuales de gatos y cebras no agradables. Ron, I've noticed in a lot of lion videos that whenever they greet each other they rub their heads together. Is that their main sign of affection? Lions? Are you talking about big cats? Yes, big cats, lions. They gamble. Ironically,

lions will always, the male always bites the neck of the female and you'll see that on almost all cats. So it seems kind of rough a little bit there. And remember now, the penises of lions, all cats for that matter, have these little fleshy spines that point backwards. So when he inserts it into the female, it slides in no problem.

However, if he tries to withdraw the penis while it's still erect, those fleshy spines rape the vaginal walls of the female. So you'll hear cat breeding, it kind of starts, it kind of goes, oh, oh, even the lions, you hear them kind of go, and then all of a sudden you're, and that's when he's withdrawing and it hurts her and she turns around, she tries to slap the gibras out of them. And then 20 minutes later, she's asking for it again. So I don't know if she remembers how much that hurt. Ron in Ohio a zebra attacked

its 72 year old owner and bit the man's arm before the zebra was fatally shot by a sheriff's deputy. How do you feel about killing animals that basically are just exhibiting natural behavior? You know I feel terrible for for the zebra, but I cannot blame a sheriff. These sheriffs are not really trained in this kind of wildlife. Their objective is to protect things. I saw the video, as a matter of fact, I commented on it this morning on the news that, you know, these sheriffs didn't know what to do. I can't blame them for doing that.

What I do have to make people understand is this. And they said, oh, it's a zebra. It's kind of like a horse. Anybody who works with horses knows even a stallion, any stallion can be incredibly dangerous, especially when you've got mares around them that are in season. And this this is a low male zebra that had a bunch of female zebras around it. It was becoming very territorial.

Anybody knows even a domestic horse can bite your arm off. And that's exactly what this zebra did. I feel horrible that they had a shooting. I don't blame the police officers though because they're in a situation they just saw the zebra come at this guy try to take his arm off. You got to protect yourself. If you were at the scene, is there anything you could have done or said to that sheriff to save the zebra's life? Yes, yes, yes. The zebra and watching the video, they could have kept that zebra back. There was a guy there with a big stick. He kept having, you know, keeping the zebra away and the

zebra kept coming back, kept coming back. And the officers just said, listen, I can't take this chance. I can't take this chance. I would have told them, listen, it's just keep yourself. You're not going to, you can keep the zebra away with a big stick. Just keep screaming and yelling and keep the zebra away. You know, it's keep screaming and yelling and keep the zebra away. It's unfortunate. They didn't have somebody there who could tell them what to do. They just saw a guy that had his arm almost bitten off. The zebra's coming at you.

Again, you cannot blame the police for that. Funky Ness and Sea Hunters. I'm also reading about, I think it's called the Bayah. The Bayah Weaver. It's known for building these massive, long-hanging bulbous nests, and they've got a narrow tube as an entrance. I don't know if you're interested in this particular animal,

but I am curious what you regard as the finest tapestry and animal weaves of any kind. Oh, that's gotta go to spiders. When you look at things that spiders do, if you're gonna talk to something a little bigger like a bird, look at the Oropendilla bird. The Oropendilla bird makes this wonderful nest. It's like a dangling nest that hangs down from the tree.

And it's basically constructed that way so snakes can't get in to eat their chicks and their eggs. It's the way they've adapted to make this nest. But I've got one actually hanging in my office here. It's hanging in the back of my office that I brought back from Panama. It's just a beautiful tapestry. Weaver birds do the same thing in Africa. The weaver birds make these wonderful hanging bulbous nests that are woven beautifully. Watch the whole process is amazing. Ron, over the weekend I was watching the Sea Wolf Island on Netflix. It's an incredible show and it shows Vancouver Island in Canada and all the surrounding ecosystem from the ocean to the seawolves

themselves to bears to marmots everything right and how everything in you know the walk of life of nature feeds and feeds itself in different ways. I was really interested about the orcas. I know we haven't really talked about orcas in a while. Can you just talked about how like how impressive they are and why they're the apex predator of the sea? Oh they're incredibly impressive first of all because of their intelligence. They're amazingly intelligent animals. Their mode of communication. They have their own languages. Those languages can vary from pod to pod where they have their own distinct languages from pod to pod. The way they can hunt cooperatively. First of all Tony, I want to say how impressed I am that you watched these

shows and you're fascinated with this kind of stuff. I love it. Not only are you a great athlete, but you're obviously a good mind that's taking in good information. How's the ankle, by the way? Ankle's doing better. I was on Edibles though. Okay. Enough. Enough. All right. So anyway, the bottom line is you watch an orca hunt. I don't know if you guys seen those videos where a seal will go up on a plate of ice on an iceberg to get away from the orca and then get together and say, okay, listen, this is what I'm gonna do.

We're all gonna go on one side. We're gonna make a wave to knock the seal off the other end of the iceberg and then they're gonna get them on the other side. I mean, what kind of intelligence does that take to say, listen, let's do this. Let's make this wave, knock them off the iceberg and then let's get them on the other side.

Man, that's the tack of the stuff when you think about it. A team has to be known as the Orcas. We need to get the Orcas as a team. Absolutely, that would be a great name for a team. Ron, you work for Miami-Dade County. I was curious, what are the origins of zoos being associated with governments and the need for governments to preserve zoos

as something like a public service? Well, they're usually part of the parks system within the government, which is what we are. We're part of the parks and recreation system here in Miami-Dade County. And it's not always necessary. You have, of course, government-run zoos like the Smithsonian, the National Zoo is run by the government. But the San Diego Zoo is a private zoo. There's some zoos that are half and half, you know, so it's not obligatory that be run by a

government or run privately to each zone depends on the market and how it evolves, but each can be very successful. Ron, a town in the United Kingdom had its New Year's fireworks show canceled because a walrus ended up on the harbor. How distressing can these fireworks shows be to animals? Very distressing. And you know, it's the time of year when I tell people, anybody who has a pet dog, even a pet cat, but pet dogs especially go through tremendous stress with these fireworks.

You can try to get them things like thunder jackets and things like that, but very little works during the fireworks, and I feel really badly for these animals during the celebrations, because people are celebrating, they don't realize the kind of stress that puts their animals through. But I can tell you, I bet you an overwhelming majority of your dog owners in your audience

know the horrible stress that dogs go through. Yeah, no, my dog, yes, hates it, and, but he's also afraid of ATM beeps and balloons and cats and rain. To look at your dog, you would never think that. And from his bark, but he's afraid of everything. What a year 2024 was, happy new years everybody, new year is this week. And some of you are going to be counting down to the new year with a lot of friends and a lot of family around. That's a lot of pallets, how do you make everybody happy?

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