The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Bet The Senate (Feat. Rosie Perez)

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

People have been throwing around allegations that the Mike Tyson-Jake Paul fight was rigged, so we touch on the fight a bit to tease our interview later in the hour with our old friend, Rosie Perez. T...hen our Agent of Chaos, Billy Gil, is here with another installment of Bet The Senate and this time they've got a real ringer. This Senator has been putting smiles on the faces of our friends above the border for more than 30 years, and he's got a big pick for this week's game between Notre Dame and USC, which may or may not be important. That leads us into a discussion about the implications of this week's college football games, and whether we could see a three-loss team in the playoff. Then, Rosie joins us to discuss her experience on the broadcast for the Jake Paul-Mike Tyson fight, the Serrano-Taylor fight that preceded it, her nerves while making her Broadway debut and working with Billy Crystal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. Our old friend, Rosie Perez, is going to join us here in a little while. I erred in not asking Samson. I did want to talk to him about everybody who is alleging that the Jake Paul Tyson fight was fixed enough that Jake Paul now has to come out and make public commentary about it because people who are watching some of the fighting experts who are watching are noticing that Mike Tyson is there are easy opportunities for Mike Tyson that would have been taken even four years ago against Roy Jones Jr. He looked like a different human being in the legs, but I don't know how sick he was recently either because he, Mike Tyson clearly
Starting point is 00:00:56 had some openings on, some amateur openings on things that the novice fight expert, if such a thing can exist right because People examining this on the internet are saying there were some right hands and the fact that there were no uppercuts from Mike That that Jake Paul left the openings and some people are alleging fixing there I mean fixing is is a bridge too far to be honest Dan but it is it is weird to see a killer like Mike Tyson and Have him not do the things that he's built to do. Scientifically, humanly built to do.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No, but you can be old. He's had those same shots on a punching bag and takes them. And one minute bursts. We see those videos in one minute bursts. Okay, but they were open, right? It's not like he's too old to throw a punch. Then what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:01:43 There was one moment that I noticed when it was happening, and it was pretty early in the fight. I would put it in the group chat, why didn't Mike take that shot? And since then, the internet's isolated that clip and been like, whoa, what is this? Because you could see the opening, Mike Tyson kind of cocked back,
Starting point is 00:02:00 and then just pull it back. And Jake Paul wasn't moving very fast at this moment. It was a clean shot, but Mike Tyson went through a lot. I guess the explanation is, you don't have to allege rigging, it could just be like, man, Mike Tyson was clearly not right. He was biting his glove the entire time. He announced that he lost a lot of blood.
Starting point is 00:02:20 We still don't really know exactly how that came about. And that's what initially postponed the fight. So look, it was what it was. Oh, it is what it is because it was what it was. I mean, it went exactly, it went pretty much exactly how we thought. Right. And like, Dan would come onto the show
Starting point is 00:02:40 and entertain like, well, you know, one punch from that guy, ultimately it's a 60 year old man against a dude that is in the prime of his life, that is in really good shape and it's a combat sport. Yeah, but when Jake leaves an opening, you are left to wonder why Mike wouldn't take that. I mean, a lot about it was odd with Mike and then you find out he was really sick before the fight
Starting point is 00:03:02 and Roy Jones is saying the entire fight, he doesn't, I don't like his legs here. Said entire fight He doesn't I don't like his legs here said it from the very beginning don't like his legs at all Roy who fought him Four years ago, and that's not how Mike was moving We don't need to spend any more time here Rosie Perez will join us in a bit that was that there's been a lot of yes That was that there's been a lot of internet sleuthing on this subject And when a hundred million people watch something and feel ripped off there are going to be a lot of theories afterward. I mean they didn't pay a pay per view price for it, you paid $15.99 or whatever for your
Starting point is 00:03:31 Netflix account. Oh but no, but that night I think, I think when Mike says it was what it was and it meant exp, or it meant what the expectations were which were low, no it did not. A hundred million people tuned in hoping to see something better than that. Like they left disappointed, boxing does not a hundred million people tuned in hoping to see something better than that like they left disappointed boxing does that a lot Serrano Taylor was incredible one of the fights of the year just before that fight. No one cares No one tuned in That's not true Dan. I'm sorry a handful of boxing fans care, but people tuned in to see Mike Tyson
Starting point is 00:04:01 That's what they wanted to see they got a fight of the year right before that fight. You saw him. You saw what it would look like if a six-year-old Mike Tyson got in the ring against Jake Paul. We all knew that that was a possibility. Even the people that were most bullish on Mike's chances knew that there is a real possibility that this could be.
Starting point is 00:04:18 If it just passed round one or round two, you're gonna deal with 60-year-old, even with two-minute rounds. I don't think people understand what it takes out of the human body just to get in the ring and Where your legs are when you're that afraid of I've got to fight this other person for money and they can concuss me like It's a weird way to make a living It's scary and there's some drainage involved before you ever to your legs before you ever get in the ring by round three man
Starting point is 00:04:43 I've told one of my favorite stories in sports history of sports is george foreman in africa in zaire where they're chanting for for the uh... ali the underdog and for seven rounds foreman is just giving everything all the tyson stuff everything and and ali just keeps whispering it to him is that all you got george is that all you got it's all rope adobe is that all you got, George? Is that all you got? It's all rope-a-dope, is that all you got? And in the eighth round, when Foreman got knocked out in one of the best fights ever, he's like, yeah, pretty much, yeah, that's all I got.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That's when boxing was boxing, Dan. Seven rounds of it. That's when we were kings, Sue. That's when we were kings. It's one of my favorites. It is, I know it's a dorky story, but I love it so much. George Foreman was Tyson, he had a pet tiger he was walking around in the street with a pet tiger Dan that's on your YouTube algorithm just like the
Starting point is 00:05:33 Norm MacDonald yeah I can't see your old I can't help it that's also part of it well but that Tyson tapped into that for me and a lot of people my age like there was a whole lot of hope trafficking we were doing with the convicted rapists there. Just be good one last time, old man. 30 years for moving from your prime. Knock out the kid and show him on behalf, show the whippersnappers on behalf of us, old guy. What boxing used to be.
Starting point is 00:05:59 That's right. I have this new thing that was supposed to be weekly that hasn't been weekly is it still undefeated Billy it is a it is an agent of chaos is it bet the house or bet the Senate it's called bet the house everybody knows it's called bet the house for representatives it's it's still unbeaten it was three and oh for a while there well I believe we're four and one now because we had one last week that didn't air but we had the right pick so we're crediting that one that one that one hit so that one that one was a win now
Starting point is 00:06:28 We did have a loss. What's that Thomas? Why didn't it air? Hold on Thomas? We're undefeated in the FPS. I don't know why he walked in the middle of me talking but yeah Thomas has been working very hard on this shitty bit Yeah, but he got a little comfortable because he brought him on the microphone before and now he's just interrupting segments It's kind of rude, it's odd really. But anywho, so we lost, it's emotional. We lost a couple weeks back, no hold on a second. Not there yet. Lost a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Last week was a big W, didn't air, but we still won that one. It still happened. I don't know, I wasn't here. So anyways. That's why. We'll take your word on it. We needed a set up.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Well Thomas was primed to set it up. I don't know what happened. We don't need to point fingers here. It's Thanksgiving week. Tony's gotta get out of here. So the point is this. This week we got a big guest. Very big, very big guest this week.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Not a House of Representatives, a Senator. We have a Senator for over 30 years who all, not yet, who for the 30 years of his service as a senator has been putting smiles on people's faces the entire time. Oh, he has? Really? Yeah. It's time to bet
Starting point is 00:07:46 The Senator of Repres-Senators Bet the Senator, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet The Senator of Repres-Senators of Red Bridge Senators. It's time to bet the Senator of Red Bridge. Senators. The Senator of Red Bridge. Senator, Senator, Senator, Senator of Ret,
Starting point is 00:08:28 Senators! This week's guest, God bless currency, of our neighbors to the north, is Ottawa Senators Team Dentist, Dr. William Wildveil Henry! We got a matchup that seemed like it was gonna be a big one, but now most people don't really care about it, probably won't really impact the standings whatsoever
Starting point is 00:08:54 because everybody knows Notre Dame's getting in anyways. It's the Notre Dame Fighting Average versus the USC Trojan. Dr. Henry, who you got? That'd be Notre Dame. Wow. Sound good. I don't think they're in if they lose that one. Nah, they're still going to get in.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Don't fool yourself. It was built for them to get in. They don't have a conference championship game. No, it doesn't matter. Or they don't want to know. Or they have a six-win team. No. Big brand.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Senators. I think they're a good it is. Six win team. Now. Big brand. Senators, team dentists. Yeah. Oh, by the way, also breaking news on the latest episode of Ice Ice Baby coming out soon. We're going to have the full interview with Dr. Bill Henry. So we went, we went about 40 minutes or so with Dr. Bill Henry before we got that pick
Starting point is 00:09:41 and we figured, you know what, we're not going to not use the 40 minutes where we talked at Ottawa Senators, team dentists, Dr. Bill Henry before we got that pick and we figured you know what we're not gonna not use the 40 minutes where we talked at Ottawa Senators team dentist Dr. Bill Henry so that's gonna be on the latest episode of Ice Ice Baby. The hockey show doesn't want that? You uh can get O Canada for that for that bed there? What? No. No it's the bed. The bed is the thing. Bet the House of Representatives sometimes Senators. Which is very clearly the name. Yeah what is Ice Ice Baby? Yeah, yeah. What is Ice Ice Baby? You have Ice Ice Baby? Ice Ice Baby is the hockey show that we've been doing for a while now, off the record. The Ice Man, Mr. Hockey, Maddie Ice, and Baby Billy.
Starting point is 00:10:15 What are you doing, man? Yeah. It's a hockey show, everybody knows. We offered Roy to be a guest multiple times. Roy has refused the guest. Mr. Hockey's personal assistants reach out to Roy on quite the number of occasions. Roy keeps turning down the appearance of Ice Ice Baby.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Who's Mr. Hockey? Mr. Hockey's Thomas. He goes by Mr. Hockey. Oh, really? Yeah, also the Ice Man. No, it is. There's been various episodes. Off the record show.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Major penalty, five minutes, screwing comedy. It's three people. Travis support. Mr. Hockey, Maddie, I see baby Billy Everyone on her show that's been done with you for 20 years was trying to figure out how to play with you there and all You did was the invisible necktie of Greg Cody from yesterday gave us shit get out Tony is very tired and should leave What do you mean? Gave us shit. Get out. It's coming soon. It's coming out soon. Look who has to go now. Oh, he's tired. Tony is very tired and should leave. No. I couldn't help it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 It was a brisk two four. All of us were trying to understand what hockey language you were talking about. That segment is how you sound in my head for 20 years. That open. For 20 years, that whole segment is just you just yammering the rare off the record show what was the pick Notre Dame I think no you didn't want to come into work today gets in if they
Starting point is 00:11:40 lose that game yes why why Why? 100%. Why? Well he just said the whole thing is built so that Notre Dame gets in. Of course. He just said you have to start. They lose the USC? You're doing this wrong. You're doing this wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:53 You have to start from the premise of this is a made for TV event that Notre Dame must participate in and then go from there. Yes. They're a lock, Mike. I think they're in trouble if they lose this one. No they're not.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah, their strength of schedule's in the 70s. It doesn't matter. The thing was built so Notre Dame gets in. But provided that they do what they need to do, I think a two loss Notre Dame, you'd favor a two loss team that gets to a conference championship. Mike, you're making the argument based on merit.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You need to stop that. Okay. Like, what are you doing? It's a made for television event that Notre Dame plays in. What do you think about the Clemson thing? That was interesting. There's a chance that three ACC teams make this because- There is.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That would be wacky. There is, yeah. What they're doing right now is essentially telling you, look, South Carolina has a pretty good argument too for the CFP. So that's essential. That might be a low key playoff game between those two. South Carolina's been good all year, correct? South Carolina, this is what we should start.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I got hoes on that LSU call, so like you apply context to their season. If Clemson does win that, they're in the CFP, are they not? Are we not agreeing that all of this is a bit dumb, that so many losses are gonna be involved, that it's gonna be impossible to pick 12, and we can take, we'll find a four loss team. If I make it a four loss Alabama team,
Starting point is 00:13:06 Stugatsa will still want them in the playoffs. Of course I will. I mean, over an Indiana team, yes, I want Alabama. I guess if we really look into this, yes, it's dumb. There's never been a way to decide a champion in this sport that hasn't felt kind of dumb. I think that this is the best of bad options. And this is certainly a year that you want as many teams
Starting point is 00:13:25 in a single elimination tournament to help figure out who is the best team in the nation. I'd much rather have these dumb conversations about Clemson and Notre Dame because they're lower stakes. It's not like a team that's like, when we had Baylor and TCU, four and five and six all into question, teams that could have legitimately made noise in
Starting point is 00:13:45 the CFP out. So I think this is the best of all the scenarios so far. So are you saying though, just so I'm clear, Notre Dame, if they lose this weekend or if they get a second loss here, that Mississippi, for example, is more deserving? I'm not saying Mississippi. Because they have three losses. I'm not saying Mississippi, but certainly Clemson, you look at whoever loses the ACC championship game, if they're level on losses and they make it to a conference championship I'm not saying Mississippi, but certainly like Clemson you look at whoever loses the ACC Championship game.
Starting point is 00:14:05 If they're level on losses and they make it to a conference championship game, why are you holding the conference championship game against them when Notre Dame doesn't play in one? The thing that Mike is doing here that is interesting and I think a lot of people in college football are doing it because, God, football always wins, man. They've just turned it into college football March madness now because everybody's kind of the same and since you're gonna allow 12 teams in we're gonna ignore that the Notre Dame loss is apocalyptic like they lost at home to a team in northern Illinois that it makes no sense to lose
Starting point is 00:14:40 at home to that team when in all your other games you're scoring 50 points and northern Illinois lost to Ball State who Mike Mike reminds you when they played to lose at home to that team when in all your other games you're scoring 50 points and Northern Illinois lost to Ball State who Mike reminds you when they played the... Now Ball State's won a couple of games because it's weird, but when they played Miami, Ball State looked incompetent. So when you start doing all the comparison shopping and you're like, yeah, Notre Dame hasn't played anybody, but Notre Dame has whacked everybody they have played. They look good no
Starting point is 00:15:05 doubt like if you're if you're picking teams on what they look like right now yeah absolutely but if they lose to a USC team that hasn't had a good year that is in all sorts of chaos that benched their quarterback I I you yeah they have the Texas A&M win. There is no worse loss. They got bat off of like military academies that were ranked when they played them. Still a good win though, Mike. If we're going to criticize their bad loss, give them a good win.
Starting point is 00:15:31 You can poke holes in the argument, especially if they lose. Now, if they win, certainly put them in. They look as good as anybody right now. But if they lose that game, you hold up their resume compared to others. It's not that good. What Mike is doing there by others
Starting point is 00:15:44 is his University of Miami Hurricanes. Miami's resume is irrefutably better. And you want to say that win against Connor Wegman when he's barfing on the field in Elko's first game at Texas A&M? Not taking anything away from that. I guess I did by adding the fact that Wegman, who's no longer the starter, was puking there. But we do this by arbitrary measurements. So top 20, Miami, you don't have a ranked win. You don't have a ranked win Miami. Okay, I
Starting point is 00:16:09 guess. All right, but if you look at others receiving votes it's littered with teams that Miami has beaten. So if I say make it top 33 Miami's got four of those wins. Should Miami lose these games so they're ranked wins? I don't I what like it's all stupid. You have to, you have to kinda judge teams by how they've looked against competition that's tough. And if you wanna say that the ACC is overrated, and yeah, not a good look,
Starting point is 00:16:36 that Rhett Lashley rolls in there with SMU and goes to a conference championship game, that doesn't take away from the fact that this is a conference that head-to-head against the Big Ten is better. Has a shot to be over 500 against the vaunted SEC. Vaunted! They're better than the Big 12 and head-to-head. But I think what you're doing here with Notre Dame is you're protecting against if Notre Dame loses to USC if the Canes lose to Syracuse. You think the Canes should get in and I'm telling you Notre Dame is in.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I don't think the Canes should get in if they lose to Syracuse. Really? If they lose to Syracuse, they should be out. I think there's a discussion to be had if the Canes beat Syracuse, make it to the ACC Championship game and lose to SMU. The same case that I would make, in fact, I'd say it's a more dramatic case for SMU
Starting point is 00:17:16 if their two losses are to BYU and to Miami. They should not be punished by losing their Conference Championship game. That's an extra game that makes everybody kind of money. Big money for everybody. You should not hold it against them. Do you think, Dan, that if the Canes lose to Syracuse this weekend that Mike will be singing the same tune? I was surprised to hear him say that, but I will simply say to Mike the same thing about Miami that I just said about Notre Dame. I think you need to rethink that you're ignoring
Starting point is 00:17:43 that this is a made for TV event. And if there are margins that Miami and Notre Dame, I think you need to rethink that you're ignoring that this is a made for TV event and if there are margins that Miami and Notre Dame can climb through to get on the marquee among 12 teams, SMU is going to lose there. Like something that looks and sounds and feels like SMU is going to lose to what's the better television product. Like that's going to be the tiebreaker and they're never going to have to say it. They're going to be able to hide it and drown it in numbers and strength of schedule and FBI and at the end it's going to be, we want to see Miami and Notre Dame because a ESPN wants the big games. Like, what are we doing? We need to
Starting point is 00:18:11 get the big game. Who was that big money guy? What was the sound that he made? What was that guy? What was that character? Big money guy. You said the big money. There's a big money television game. Yeah. I don't understand. Well, the conference championship games are big money conference championship games, and the fact that Notre Dame doesn't play in one, it's convenient, and they don't have to play that extra game against a really challenging opponent. And by the way, in other conferences that can hurt you. They say it's not supposed to hurt you. And I think by putting Clemson at number 12 right now, essentially telling you they're in a win-in-in scenario against South Carolina. How do you put Clemson into the CFP and not the loser of the ACC Championship game?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Now that loser may very well be Clemson because Miami has to do what they need to do against Syracuse but if there's a scenario which Clemson's in the top 12 Miami and SMU play in the ACC Championship game you can't kick one of those two teams out and favor Clemson. Clemson didn't have the benefit of playing that extra game. Rosie Perez next. Don LeBattard. If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Aggressive description. I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me. You're just saying what? That's me.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Daniel Day-Lewis does something. That was something Bruce did yesterday, yeah. I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do? I mean, Stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do. Lincoln, who you outed the other day.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Don't make this a rejoin. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] this to God's. She makes us happy every time we see her, every time we hear from her. It's been a while. She made that fiasco tolerable on Netflix as we were watching that poor old guy get beaten up by by Jake Paul. You always want to start off awkward? That's his thing.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Look, welcome and thank you for coming back. Rosie Perez is serially honest. I'm not telling, and she loves her boxing, and she knows far more about boxing than I know. Still weird. It seems like you know her very well. She is one of our all-time favorite guests on the show. She's an Oscar-nominated actress.
Starting point is 00:20:26 She's got a new show with Billy Crystal and Judith Light. It is called Before on Apple TV, and we love her because she is one of Boxing's most passionate fans, and she's known as the first lady of boxing. Is that a better introduction? There you go. Quite honestly, yes. Much better.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yes, but she knows that we love her, and we enjoyed watching that spectacle with everybody else because the Netflix numbers came in, yes, much better. Yes, but she knows that we love her and we enjoyed watching that spectacle with everybody else because the Netflix numbers came in, Rosie, and it was over 100 million people that we're talking about on the downloads. I don't know what you thought that was going to be, but did it live up to your expectations and we've missed you.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Thank you for joining us. Okay, that was a lot, but hi. Hello, yes, it was a lot. Also, people don't download anything off Netflix. Okay, I was a lot. But hi. Hello, yes it was a lot. Also people don't download anything off Netflix. Okay, I'm sorry. That's right, I got that wrong. Watched on Netflix, it was not downloaded. I think it gets, well nevermind.
Starting point is 00:21:14 No downloads. Nope, it doesn't. It's on DVDs. You're like a dog with a bone on it. Rosie, how did you feel about the entire experience? And thanks again for joining us. Well since it was my first time doing it, I would say it was unexpected, stressful, wonderful,
Starting point is 00:21:32 exciting, mind blowing, and also like, oh my God, what the hell did I just see? What surprised you about the entire extravaganza? Because I don't know how much preparation involves. I don't know how much work you did with Roy Jones Jr. and your team beforehand. Why was it stressful? It was stressful because initially I was supposed
Starting point is 00:21:56 to be the host with Kate Abduskat. And then they changed it and said, we think you would be better as color commentary. I went, oh, no, no, no. And they said, well, why don't we just test it out? So we did a test run. We watched a fight with the sound off and we had to commentate Mauro Roy Jr. and myself.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And I ended up having so much fun with it. They just kind of talked me into it. And then when the reality hit, when we got to Arlington, I was like, oh my gosh, this is serious. And because I have such respect for commentaries, I mean, everyone down from Jim Lampley all the way down to Paulie Malinagi and Tim Bradley
Starting point is 00:22:41 and Andre Ward himself, I think the magnitude of the whole event started to really hit me once I walked into the stadium. So were there nerves unlike other nerves that you've had? You've been a performer for a long time. That's a good question. It was very similar to like when you go out on a Broadway stage because this is real,
Starting point is 00:23:03 there's no cut and you better come with the good. You know, so that was in my favor because I understand how to deal with stress in those situations. You kind of just do it, you know what I mean? And you don't let it get the best of you. When I first went in the stand up, that's when you stand in front of the camera with the mics handheld standing up for the first fight I was Obviously nervous, so it was really good that I did the prelim I did a Shoo Shoo Carrington's fight because I love him, and I think he's great And it was Andre Ward who had suggested to me to do that run first so that when the main card came around,
Starting point is 00:23:46 I was kind of more settled in and I was. Rosie, you love boxing. We've had you on so many times over the years. You really love boxing and I'm wondering, does it make you sad that Jake Paul is now the face of boxing? It's complicated my feelings in regards to Jake Paul because I am so grateful for him for getting, you know, Amanda Serrano paid. I mean, really, I mean, that woman has been getting punched in the face, what, over 16 years and didn't get a big payday until he came around.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That's really sad. And as well as Katie Taylor, she benefited off of his promotion of Amanda Serrano. So I highly respect him for that. But in regards to him as a boxer, I mean, he has gotten better, he's taken it seriously, but yeah, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah. Uh. You're. Uh. Uh. Your confidence though in the subject matter, it's interesting to hear you talk about nerves because the subject matter, you interesting to hear you talk about nerves because
Starting point is 00:24:45 the subject matter you've got got you've got it down right it's not a it's it is the performing aspect of just there are a lot of people listening to this and what where do the nerves come from there because i don't imagine that you can have much more confidence than you do talking boxing well once i was seated at the on ringside, I was having fun. But it was the production aspect of it, because the production was a little faulty.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We couldn't hear the truck in the earlobe. So we were rushing to do the stand-up, then rushing back to sit down. And I didn't hear certain cues. You know, and Roy and Mara were very supportive in that respect, as well as the floor manager. She was great, but it was a lot. So that part was like, oh my goodness, what's going on? You know, but Roy Jr. actually has said to me prior said when I first walked in the stadium he looked at my face and he said you all right and I was like nah and he goes no you need to
Starting point is 00:25:51 calm down and I started cracking up and he said this is fun you they asked you for a reason they didn't ask anybody else they asked you and he says so I got you and Andre Ward came over and said listen if you ever feel nervous just say hey what do you think because he's the best at it and that's what i would do i don't know if you notice that i would always say hey boy what do you think about that you know and i'm he really helped me out when would you say was the last time you were
Starting point is 00:26:16 this scared or that scared is probably overstated but before performing rosie went what what compares like you mentioned broadway but what is the last time that felt like this you're a very accomplished actress. I would say my Broadway debut because I had to be butt naked on stage. Yeah, that was that was yeah, that'll do it. Yeah. You know what's so funny about that performance. The director was so angry at me. He was so pissed off because I'm supposed to walk around the stage naked and I'm thinking my family's here
Starting point is 00:26:48 opening night, I can't do it. I just can't do it. I'm Puerto Rican. So the scene is Joey Pantz and I are in bed. We're doing the deed. And then after the deed, I'm supposed to get up naked and clean the room. Like what woman in the real world does that?
Starting point is 00:27:05 You know, not with a one night stand, you know what I'm saying? And so what I did was I picked up the pillow and I was holding it on my side so you could cover my, my, my tits and my, you know what, woohoo. And yeah. The director was so angry after the show. How dare you? How dare you? I said, listen, my family was in the audience.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't do it. I need an elaboration on what you being Puerto Rican has to do with us, it being a little extra hard to be naked in front of your family. Because it's like, you know, it's a very Catholic, you know, religious, you know, kind of upbringing and you know, I didn't even drink a glass of wine in front of my father till I was 27
Starting point is 00:27:55 years old. I just went for it. That explains it. Can you tell us, Rosie, how it is that you got this job? What's the backstory? Like, I know that for years, everyone has associated you with boxing commentary. I know that you did it with our show for a long time.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Do you remember, like, any interesting parts of the story of how all of this came to be? They just asked me, and I was shocked. And I was like, me? Are you sure? I mean, that's as simple as it was. You know, prior to this, I had co-hosted a fight for ESPN on Top Rank. I mean, that's as simple as it was. You know, prior to this, I had co-hosted a fight for ESPN on Top Rank.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And that was a lot of fun. And then Teddy Atlas asked me to sit next to him, ringside, and he ended up screaming at me most of the fight. But yeah, and then one time Steve Faulhood asked me to sit next to him ringside for Broadway boxing little DiBella card. But that was it. So I was really surprised but I was happy, you know, and I initially thought that Mike
Starting point is 00:28:56 Tyson was the one that told them to ask me and I called Kiki, his wife and she said, no, we didn't know anything about it. That's fantastic. You interviewed Mike and were you expecting, you never know where one of those is going to go. Were you expecting to be talking about God and the DMT, the Toad, the smoking of Toad experience? Kiki Absolutely not. They had given me like a list, maybe 50 questions to ask him. I think I probably asked two on that list.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I just started talking as soon as he said, Hey buddy, I went, okay, here we go. It was just me and Mike. And we just started talking and thank goodness they cut a lot of stuff out. Cause he was saying some out there, you know what? I was like, yo, what are you talking about? So we just had fun and it just kind of load and knowing him
Starting point is 00:29:48 since the you know that 80's there was actually stuff that I learned from that interview actually what got cut out. I can tell you I wish I could because it's so good and juicy I was like oh my goodness it was it was crazy it was crazy so. and juicy. I was like, Oh my goodness. It was, it was crazy. It was crazy. So Rosie, this is a habit of yours. Don't, aren't we still trying to find out who was her date to some award show 15 years ago? We never got a correct answer to that. Right. Or it was actually
Starting point is 00:30:14 longer than that ago. We never got a correct answer. Didn't we? She likes to leave us hanging. These big mysteries you leave out there like you gave us all the good stuff there and then you denied us the good stuff. Then I blame you because ever since I was the first time I said that story and it was on your show and everyone asked me about that now to this day, to this day. So every time someone asked me about it in my head, I'm saying that effing
Starting point is 00:30:40 freaking Dan LeBittar. That's how I started the interview to that effing friggin Dan LeBittar. That's how I started the interview too, that effin' freakin' Dan LeBittard. Tell us about this show. I have not seen it yet, but it is on my list. I see you and Billy Crystal. I wanna watch it. Apple TV Plus, the name of the show is before. Tell us how it is you got involved in this project
Starting point is 00:30:58 and what it is that is exciting about it to you. Well, I always wanted to work with Billy Crystal and then I got a call saying that he was gonna offer me a role in his new TV show. When I read the role, I always wanted to work with Billy Crystal. And then I got a call saying that he was going to offer me a role in his new TV show. When I read the role, I was like, oh, it's too similar to what I did in Yorana with Bryan Cranston. So I got on Zoom with him and the producers and everyone. And I said, I'm going to turn down this role.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And I think it's the stupidest thing that I'm ever going to do. I said, but the role of Denise, whoever you get to play it, please make sure they do it like this. And we talked for like about an hour and a half. And three days later, they called back and said, you have to play Denise. And I was scared out of my wits about it. And I said, okay, because I just wanted to work with Billy. And plus the script was amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And also Judith Light, my gosh, you know? And so that's how it came about. Your honor is so good, Rosie. Like it is really good, but I saw the delight in Chris Cody's face there because he loves how you say Billy. He loves- Brings me back to White Man Can't Jump. Yeah, he like.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. Oh. Yes. Which, it had, Billy had some accent on it and so did Crystal. The way that you say Billy Crystal entirely had a lot of accent on it. So you make the ends awkward too.
Starting point is 00:32:14 See you later, Rosie. Good talking to you. Thank you. It's always nice seeing you. We're sorry, Rosie.

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