The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Can A Playa Get Some Conversation? (feat. Bert Kreischer)
Episode Date: September 9, 2025"I'm not totally comfortable with Club Shay Shay." We run through a flurry of sounds we haven't gotten to yet including a weird Steve Sarkisian exchange and Brian Callahan not knowing the rules. Pa...rdon The Interruption got a 3-year extension which leads to Mike giving us his Top 10 sports TV shows of all time. Plus, Bert Kreischer plays a round of Real or Fake podcast, tells us about giving a pump-up speech at Florida State, and shares stories from life on the road. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucat's podcast.
Do you get annoyed every time Dan Levitart
Puntificates about the sports media industry?
Well, too bad, motherfucker.
He knows he don't give a damn about what he's going to say.
It's time for sports media talk today.
Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon have signed a three-year extension for PTI.
I'm going to assume, but cannot say this for sure, that it will be their last contract there,
because I don't know how much after 80 years old Tony's going to be wanting to do that,
even though people around him who love him suspect the moment you turn off that TV camera,
he will just wander over to a potted plant and start giving that his sports opinions.
I don't know what the details are on.
Did they make them go to an hour from a half hour?
Because there was some thought that it would be easy to do that,
which would be easy for them to do that,
except you've got to pay Tony twice as much as you were paying him if you want him to do twice as much work
and that might be less easy than it used to be one of the greatest sports television shows top 10 of all
time correct top five like where where are we putting what are the greatest sports television
shows there have ever been and does pTI rise to the level that's more than 20 plus years of
chemistry on television uh and able to survive all of the flux at
ESPN and at Disney because it's still a monster when it comes to ratings, even though very little
is a monster when it comes to ratings.
I remember where I was the first time I saw the show.
I think I was 19.
I remember exactly where I was.
And it was incredible because I remember saying to myself, well, hold up.
Those are the topics they're going to talk about and they're on my screen?
I get to see what they're going to talk about on the show.
That's one of the great sports inventions of all time, that ticker, that timer that keeps them to 90 seconds in the event.
that you are not interested in that topic.
You know it's going to change in 60 seconds
because what they did there is grab short attention spans
before, you know, social media
before the addictions. And they're like, we're going to
speed all this up for you. We're going to give you sports
center and a half hour and how to think about it.
And I just don't know where it would rank
in greatest sport. It's certainly one with the longest run.
It's certainly crazy that it's a daily
show, right? Because I don't think many of
whatever it is we'd be nominating for
best sports television of all time.
is going to be a daily show 240 to 300 times a year because of the need for content.
Top five, Zaslo?
Top five all time.
I'm not a top ten right now.
Yeah, I have a hard time believing it's not top three.
Of all the arguments I've had with Boogshambi, he tends to win most of them.
He's smarter about sports than I am.
He also saw that come up on his screen for the first time, and he looks to me and he says,
that'll never work.
Because they were bad at the beginning.
didn't know what they were doing. There was no chemistry. Well, they infamously, when the bell
would ring, they would stop and look around, right? Well, they just, yes, they didn't know
how to do television necessarily as chemistry, right? They were very good at radio. They were
very good in the newsroom having chemistry, but televised chemistry has to be learned. And obviously,
what are you laughing about, Chris? They perfected it, obviously. Let's get a list of the top
five television shows up all time. All right, we're going to get to it in a second. We're going to go
through it with Burke Kreischer. Let's go through it with Burke Kreisher in a second, your top
10 list, but let's play some more sounds that we have not gotten to. I want to start with
Jacksonville's owner. Tony is feeling Jacksonville, okay? They didn't even get huge games from
their skill guys. Their skill guys are good, and their defense is going to be good. And at the end
of the game, Shad Khan, who is just so very happy to be out from under the stench of Urban Meyer,
it takes a long time to recover from it. He is giddy with enthusiasm, our friend Tony Kahn's
dad. This is what we envisioned in January, okay? It's
Happening here in September, going to go on forever.
You can hear the pain in the way.
Going to go on forever.
Please.
You could just like, he might as well just be saying,
Jacksonville.
Forever's ambitious.
Can we agree?
Long time.
Going to go on forever.
Why was the kicker on the right dressed like the vampire listad?
Yeah, he was actually.
I want to get to some coaching sound.
Can someone explain?
me why and how this escalated so quickly with Steve Sarkesian, who's feeling himself after
getting dragged with his great quarterback. The headlines, God, I just was looking back
through some old headlines. Arch Manning built for this moment. I don't really know what's
going on in this clip. I would just describe this as an awkward back and forth between Steve
Sarkisian and a reporter. Arch Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains by the fourth quarter.
According to who? Arch. Arch said that to you? No. Oh, according to who? It just looked like he was
he doesn't have any
does that
is there an explanation
to why he was
it looked like that
I don't know
I've never
filmed any of you guys
when you're using the bathroom
so I don't know
what faces you make
when you're doing that
was arch in the bathroom
I don't know
is that a saying
I never filmed you guys in the bathroom
why did the reporter lie there
yeah that was weird right
oh they get scared
when the big tough coach
he's like oh arch
you talk to him
no
This is, I understand that I'm obviously...
You won't let me talk to them.
I'm pro-media and so I've got my biases,
but that's just a scared reporter
and that's just a tough guy, coach,
who's in power and can embarrass a scared reporter
who got nervous.
I've never filmed any of you guys
when you're using the bathroom,
so I don't know what faces you make
when you're doing that.
It should be illegal.
You know, a lot of people have different problems
with Sarkesian.
I think people are deserving of a second chance.
For me, I wrote him off.
You ever see that video of him like chewing out the ESPN field producer while he's in the tunnel getting ready to come out for a bowl game?
I could already make a character judgment on this guy by how he treated that dude.
Arch said that to you?
No.
Why do you lie?
I don't want to make a character judgment about drinking problems because everyone knows that they're an assortment of addictions that run rampant.
and sickness that runs rampant as well when it comes to not being able to control your addictions.
But it is fairly amazing that Sarkesian has been able to get that particular job so quickly
after being someone who was drinking on the job in his previous, or actually two stops ago,
the last time he was a head coach, rehabbed himself the way that many did and do under Sabin,
literal rehab, and then comes back and has that job, which is with that quarterback.
He's in a pretty fantastic position given the way that his last head coaching job ended.
It's a fairly amazing story that he would hit reporters with arrogance probably has to do with,
oh, and now he feels what the pressure of that job is when you have that quarterback as well.
Probably doesn't feel very good every day.
Yeah, for me, it's just how he treated the field producer.
It's just really bad.
It's a really bad look.
And it shows, like, how you treat other people.
And, like, if you can read into how he treats the media, you can read into how he treats a field producer.
I'm just not a fan.
Haven't been a fan since I saw that clip.
All four are giving people multiple chances, and he's gotten multiple chances.
How about this?
Are you a fan of this?
This Brian Callahan, you are in a position where you are in the tank for Cam Ward.
Everyone else is at fault for any of Cam Ward's failures.
He should have been 28 for 28 in his game against Denver.
if simply everyone around him hadn't betrayed him, who's a Tennessee Titan,
including his coach not knowing the rules.
That's a misinterpretation.
I counted 24 or 28.
Cam Ward would have had the day Aaron Rogers had if the Titans weren't bums,
and that is the fair and reasonable analysis from Mike Ryan.
Calvin Ridley could not catch balls that were too hot to handle, but let's hear...
They could have been handled, all right?
Make a play for the young man, and that's what I was saying in the entire game.
but the rookie from Stanford that put up
200 plus yards on Travis Hunter
this is an exciting draft pick
Tony helped me with the name because I don't want to mispronounce it
that's right
so
young man makes a play
goes up there, catches the ball
elbow comes down in bounds
the rest of the body falls out of bounds
and I'm watching at home
the NASCAR's on the main for those that don't know
isn't that in bounds? Should be in bounds? I thought so
I thought I knew ball apparently I didn't know
ball. They didn't challenge it. It's not
challenged they didn't take a look at it I see the replay
on the TV? I'm like, yeah, elbow came down. I thought
the elbow, you know. Does one
elbow equal
two feet? Well, let's see. You're
asking the right question. I feel like I've heard that before.
We all thought that, right? A butt cheek.
What are the things that equal two feet?
Knee, butt cheek, elbow.
All of those things
equal, is there anything else that should
shoulder, possibly. Face, teeth.
Shin, shin, we've seen
that play out before, but I found it
very odd. What about head?
Head? I don't know. If your head,
lands in bounds and then your feet
land out of bounds. Is your head
two feet? Where's the ball? We've never seen that
before. But maybe
we will one day, so it's important to establish rules.
One butt. One butt is
a butt, correct? One cheek, two feet.
I got to think the head is down in bounds,
if the shin is. Like comes down head
first and then falls
over. If your head, if you land on the top
of your helmet and then your feet land out of bounds,
that's going to be no catch. Which head?
Oh, really? He was
workshopping that for eight and we're like, no, don't
don't do that. And he was like, I'm confused doing the dick joke.
All right, put it on the poll. Is the penis, does it count as two feet?
The penis doesn't count as two feet. So, you and I, I think just his penis would land
in bounds and the rest of his body out of house? An elbow? I mean, what's the difference?
There's pants. What is the rule? So, we knew ball. The elbow comes down in bounds.
That counts as a knee. That counts as two feet. I feel like I've heard that before.
So let's hear the head coach, Brian Callahan, after the game,
and then Brian Callahan upon reflection, first after the game.
It looked like his elbow hit in-bound first.
Yeah, you got to get a foot in-bounds too, which we didn't have a clean look at whether his foot was down as well.
An elbow doesn't equal two feet, so his foot would have had to come down as well.
We didn't have a clean look, so the call from upstairs was that, you know, it wasn't more challenging.
So Zaz, you and I, very clearly idiots.
There is no way that you have to have an elbow and a foot.
foot. There's no way that's the rule.
Well, an elbow on a foot? Like twister? That equals two feet?
What is the rule? What is the damn rule?
Is an elbow work two feet or is it not work two feet?
Dan, he had conviction when he spoke.
You're an idiot for thinking an elbow is down and bounds.
Let's hear Mr. Callahan upon reflection.
The conversation about the play with Elek and challenging to play and what I said
after the game and look ultimately my interpretation of the rule was wrong.
I'll own it. We should have challenged to play.
and that's pretty much all I can say about it
is I'll own a mistake, should have challenged it,
and that's where it stands.
That process and how those things get relayed,
I'll keep those in-house.
But I'm the head coach of the football team,
and my job is to make those decisions,
and I didn't do a good enough job in that moment,
and I should have challenged it.
He wanted to.
And it probably would have resulted in a potential explosive play.
And this is how you say, I'm not blaming anyone while blaming other people.
He wanted to blame somebody else, there, Dan.
He didn't know the rules.
He didn't know the rules.
I said that in your ear,
and then you sounded like somebody insists him up a down just like in the middle of that.
Yeah, he wanted to.
But I'm glad as someone that champions admitting when you were wrong,
it only took our man a day.
And head coaches notoriously stubborn.
So good on you, Mr. Callion.
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Don Lebertard.
I've never stepped foot on that campus.
If you told me right now,
your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just, just take a picture.
Stugats.
I would die.
I don't know where it is.
This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.
He is a comedian, he is a podcast host.
He is a machine.
He's got a couple of hilarious podcasts, two bears one cave,
Tom Segura. He's been off for a while, and he's got the Burtcast, and he's got something's burning.
You can see him at the Great Outdoors Comedy Festival in Vancouver this weekend, September 12th.
His permission to party, a world tour, tour dates, and tickets are available at Burt, burt, bert.com.
He is working very hard. He is always working, and he loves his sport, so let's include him on a couple of conversations we're having.
What equals two feet, Bert, as a catch in the NFL? Does the elbow count as two feet?
An elbow and ear or a nose all count.
They're all specific, but yeah.
They should.
How about an ass cheek?
An as cheek counts his two feet?
If you drag it, yeah, if you drag it.
If you drag an ass cheek, what else you got set?
What if you just land on your head and then the rest of your body falls out of bounds?
Catch.
Catch?
A hundred percent of catch.
Okay, good.
We're doing the rules.
Mike, you want to give Bert your top 10 sports television shows of all time now that
Tony and Mike have signed a three-year extension, I assume.
We've got to assume it's the last one.
No, are you assuming it's the last one?
For us, no.
Three years?
I didn't get three years.
I didn't get three years.
Number 10.
George Michael's Sports Machine.
I mean, just an OG inspired so many other shows that followed it.
Any thoughts there, Kreischer?
You believe that or you're out on that?
I'm out.
I've never heard of it.
Okay.
Believe it or not, one half of Wham hosted a sports highlight.
That's not true at all.
No, no, you're best.
You're best.
Let's play this game
We can't play real or fake
podcast later on though
Yes, we won't play that
Number nine
Number nine around the horn
Number eight
Sunday
NFL County
You thought there was a show
That was just called Sunday
What's going on there?
Number seven
Baseball tonight
Great jingle
You remember when baseball was interesting
That's a good point by you
Do you remember when
Do you remember Saturday baseball
When you'd go play the little league and then you'd come home and you'd watch the highlights
and you were like, man, I want to play for the rest of my life.
And then you're just like, nah, and I'll just do testosterone.
You remember web gems?
You remember diamond notes with Peter Gammon's?
That's when baseball was baseball, pal.
That's what America knew who their enemy was.
That's right.
Amen.
Number six, inside the NFL.
Number five, real sports.
Number four, pouring in the interruption.
Number three, inside the NBA.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, with Shaq, with Shaq and Barclay, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
With Shaq.
With Shaq and Barclay in Barthly, right?
Hold on, Mark.
Do you have any objections to anything he's put on the list?
Do you have anything that you would rank high?
No, there's nothing that I'd mess.
I mean, nothing I'd mess with right now, except I am, I know what number one should be, okay?
Are you okay with inside the NBA being behind college game day?
Personally, no.
I think, I think Shaq and Charles Barkley are two of the most fascinating individuals in the entire world.
To watch Shaq eat the hottest chip challenge is one of the greatest pieces of footage in my entire life.
I still say that.
Anytime I eat something spicy.
Oh.
Number one.
I need you to tease me.
I need you to tease me.
Number one.
This was a star making vehicle.
This was late night for a generation.
These were the VJs of kids for the 90s.
This was Sports Center.
Boom, baby.
Stuart Scott.
Stewart Scott.
Yes.
Fell off.
Stuart Scott.
Name him more.
Dan Patrick.
Rich Eisen.
Rich Eisen.
Dude,
let me tell you something.
I had dinner with Stuart.
Stuart Scott when I first started stand-up in New York.
And I was drunk.
And I was like, and I know you got it.
You have to be a real sports center fan to remember.
He came in and stirred things up.
He stirred everything up because all of a sudden he was coming in with potential, like,
just like, booyah, right back at you.
Do you remember that?
He was just black.
Yeah.
That's how he stirred it up.
But you remember, that was stirring things up.
Yeah.
We're talking about 1990.
It was.
It still is, Bert.
It still is, Bert.
I know. I'm not totally comfortable with club shay-shay. Anyway, I mean, I got to be honest, talk about us every now and then. You know what I mean? Would it kill you?
I had dinner with them and I got to talk to him about that. And he broke down, he broke down everything that was happening internally at ESPN with the way he was talking and the way he was being representing the thing. And it was the most fascinating conversation I've ever had. And that's the only time I ever met him. What a bar.
he was just black though like what happened the shocking thing that he was is that rich eisen was there
and then here comes the guy who's black it happens that way so much 48 hours
it's trading it's a staple of americana really if you think about it it's how it works but
bert every time we talk to you your life gets crazier and crazier and i got to be i got to be
honest i feel for you sometimes because i feel like you get hurt by some of the stuff wherever it is that
you're polarizing as opposed to it being 100% laughter, and I want you to just enjoy your life
because it seems like everything great is happening in your life. Everything great's happening in my
life. Are you kidding me? I gave the pump-up speech at Florida State before we took our first game
this year. It was one of the greatest moments of my entire life. Florida State's having a great
season. The Bucks are having a great season. I am the happiest kid in town. I'm getting ready to go on
tour. I just wrapped my TV show for Netflix. I got, I haven't drank in two days. Come on. I feel like Superman.
How is it that you've been in the last six months in terms of running into folks where you're like, how is this my life?
Because every time we talk to you, your life gets a little bit crazier in terms of whose company you're keeping.
Be more specific.
Oh, I just, I don't know.
Every day for you bring some sort of absurdity.
Does it not where you're looking around and saying, how did I get from, you know, parting more than anyone in the history of Florida State University to,
why am I sitting next to this person?
I'll tell you what, we had a crazy experience.
Me and Tommy went to that Florida State game,
and I was with Work Done and Danny Cannell.
Now, if you remember, like, in the 90s,
the Chokin' Doke was like one of the biggest games
I ever remember watching,
and I remember that being orchestrated by Danny Cannell
and Work done.
Now, Warwick didn't score a lot of touchdowns on that game,
but he was just invaluable.
And there I am in the president's box,
or right just outside the media,
box shirtless holding on to Warwick Dunn and Danny Cannell with Tom Sagar and my best friend.
And I thought to myself, if you had told me in 1993 or 1994, that I would be shirtless
in this stadium with Warwick Dunn and Danny Connell, I'd be like, are they running a train on me?
What was it like for you to do that speech?
Were you nervous being in front of a stadium?
You're playing giant venues now.
But specifically, because of your reverence for that program, how nervous were you before
just getting in front of those people?
saying a few words. So I was terrified all the way, I was terrified all morning and the week leading up
to it. And then the second I got on the field, Tommy pulled me aside and Kirk Fox's opener.
And they said, talk with them, not at them. You're one of them. And the second they said that,
I realized I am that kid that sat in those end zone stadium bleachers when they were wooden bleachers
watching Dan Maori play Miami going wide right. I am that kid that the first time I saw the spear
go down and I just I was supposed to just say like God bless America God bless the troops
ladies and gentlemen start your engines I think that's all they wanted me to do and I just went on
a rant about this is the house that Bobby Bowden built when that spear hit that 50 yard line tears
streamed down my face those tears were garnet and gold ladies and gentlemen Alabama has no idea
what house I just stepped into I have two words to say go nose and I'm talking when 90,000 people
erupt, that's when you storm the Capitol.
I mean, that's like, that's, I mean, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like,
I mean, that's like Stalin, Mussolini, that other guys kind of stuff.
That's, I mean, that moves a country.
Lifetime tickets to any team, only one team, who you're picking.
Oh, the Indiana fever.
College or pro football, best tailgate.
Oh, college.
without a doubt ears and i don't mean to be disrespectful but let's be very honest at least there's a
a litmus of education at a college tailgate when you go to a like a bills or a stealer's tailgate
you don't need to have any education you can just be a dude fresh out of prison you
then there's a barring none my university of miami of course obviously that doesn't matter but
at any other college you need some sort of level of education to get to
to the tailgate.
College tailgate 100%.
Why are you wearing two watches?
I'm not. One's a whoop.
What do you got there?
It's a who?
No, the other side.
The other side.
There it is.
Daytona. What do you got going on there?
No, this is a GMT master two.
Nice.
What's the longest you've gone without wearing a shirt?
Oh, that would have to be Hawaii.
I didn't wear a shirt to dinner two nights in a row because they were private rooms.
And so I was just coming straight off the beach.
that was four days straight. Four days straight. By the way, no shower, no shirt.
I count the ocean, and anyone in Miami would count the ocean as a shower.
Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Does the ocean count as a shower? I think salt water is something
you should want to get off your body. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't, you can rinse.
You can rinse if you want, but if you go into the ocean, you are clean. The Lord has cleaned you.
I will also say for any Florida kid, pool counts as a shower. Let's play our new game with Bert.
helped popularize the podcast. What's going on with Two Bears One Cave? You guys were doing
movies and doing other projects. So you allowed Stavi, you allowed guest hosts to come in. I saw
that Sam Meryl was on there. How'd all that go? And are you back now? Yeah, we're back. We're back
doing them. We both had projects. Tom had a movie and I had a TV show. And it's a little frustrating.
You know, it was obviously podcast is the thing that got us to the dance. But now the dance is asking us to do
different things and it's kind of like you don't want to you don't want to forget your roots and
what got you there but at the same time you have so many plate spinning that we're trying to do both
so i i'm i don't know we're trying i'm trying to skinny up my podcast dance slate meaning with
bertcast and something's burning so that i can focus more on two bears to be honest with you
because uh why do you want to focus on that it's been the prize baby obviously and it's something
that's important to you and i like that you brought in these comedians who could freshen up like
they respect the platform you've built and they were doing something different than you guys
would do in your audience like that too yeah they loved it i be the way i do that more often i would
bring in guess hos and you know i mean i'll talk very candidly but you know two bears makes a
a great deal of money and to share that money with other comics that are doing that are coming in
and breathing fresh air into it like it's it's it's it's kind of nice like we just basically hand the
podcast over everything everything they do the ad reads they make the money and
And it's kind of nice to be dead.
And I think the fans like it and it brings it, it makes it more fun for us.
And it also invigorates us because I was like, wow, they killed it.
We got to really start writing down subjects to talk about Tom.
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Don lebatard what is the worst part of the life stugats the worst part of the life of what
This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stoogads.
What would you identify in your top,
top experience of the last five years that has been a surprise,
just where you just, you're just surprised that something has blown up for you as a professional success that it outranks all the others.
Oh, without a doubt, it's acting.
I never planned on being an actor.
I had no interest in acting.
I thought actors were idiots.
I thought they were like, it was the dumbest profession you could ever do.
And then I did it in the machine.
And I didn't think, I just like, I'll do one movie and that's it.
It's my movie about me.
That's it.
And then I started getting offered acting roles, like a lot.
And I turned them all down because I was like, I'm not, I just want to play me.
And that's it.
I want to play Burt.
And then I just did this last one.
And now I have like three movies lined up.
and this show looks it looks like you know it's going to be pretty good i think and and uh but i'm
getting offered like weird acting roles like serious acting roles and like i got i just did a part
where i get the crap beat out of me like i don't know i never thought acting would be something
i'd want to do at all i just didn't i like this i love this medium and i was like i'll be
podcasting forever and you're never going to match the money and the acting doesn't pay anything
really compared to podcasting and stand up mike are you ready to play uh real
or fake podcast with one of the podcast kings?
Yes, Chris Cody, hit it.
Listen up.
Time to think fast.
Is this a real or fake podcast?
Self-explanatory.
I'm going to give you a podcast title, Bert,
and you have to decipher whether or not it is a real or fake podcast.
First one up.
The Kittle Things with George Kittle.
That's fake.
There's no way.
And if it's not fake,
he's got to change the name.
That is a real podcast.
Shut up!
Shut up!
He does it with his wife.
The Kittle thing!
The Kittles thing.
I'm calling George Kittal right now.
He should do it with children and call it Kittle people.
Second one up.
Reese's Pieces with Reese Davis.
You got him shook, Mike.
Gotta be real.
That's got to be real.
It's too good.
That is a fake podcast.
Are you, Gary?
Bird stinks at this game.
He's truly terrible at this game.
Next one up.
House Rules with Matt Rule.
Fake.
That is a real podcast.
That is they're worse than Birdcast
Who name me?
Little FSU
Tinge to this one.
Football bromance with Bjorn Werner.
Burtle Bromance.
With Bjorn Verner.
I think it's real.
That one's actually real.
Yeah.
Beyond Werner.
And lastly,
The House of Stone and Light
with Martin Page.
Chris Lighty.
The House of Stone and Light.
With Martin Page.
That's fake. That is an adult contemporary hit from the early 90s.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
You finished hot.
Yes, you went two for five.
I will remind everyone again that you see him at the Great Outdoors Comedy Festival in Vancouver this weekend, September 12th.
His permission to party world tour.
You can get tour dates, tickets available at bert, burt, bert.com.
What's the most moved you've been on stage here recently, Bert, like, because I thought it might have been in the last special when you threw your shirt up in the air and it landed exactly on the microphone.
I believe that that's as well as you could ever do it.
That was that caught me off guard.
That was the, the most moved I've been, honestly, was, and I only know this because it was Tampa, the Amelie Arena.
And right before I was about to go on stage, my dad called me.
And my dad was at the step.
My dad's never seen me perform live.
He called me and he goes, hey, Wade Boggs is here.
And I was like, yeah, I know.
And he was like, no, no, no, no, no.
He's in my box suite.
Do you think he knows who you are?
I go, yeah, dad, I got him tickets.
And he was like, you know Wade Boggs?
I go, no, I don't know Wade Boggs, but he wanted tickets.
We're going to meet him after the show.
He goes, I'm going to get to meet Wade Boggs.
I go, introduce yourself now, dad.
That was the most.
And then we got backstage and Derek Brooks, who, you know, FSU legend.
was backstage with me and my dad
and he said to my dad
can you believe the career your son's had
and my dad goes
do you know my son? And he goes
I was at his first show
and Derek Brooks walks out and goes
and my dad goes buddy
Derek Brooks knows who you are
can you imagine the life you've lived
if Derek Brooks knows who you are
that was the greatest
that was the Mount Rushmore
I'm done I could go back and do clubs
for the rest of my life. He's not your favorite
seminal no the best seminal of all time
is blank the best seminal of all time the best seminal of all time is charlie ward uh better than dion
charlie ward when i was there charlie ward was so undeniable he was so undeniable third and seventeen
and you knew charlie ward would come through you know what i loved about charlie ward when when work done's
mom got killed charlick ward said to bobby bowden let him live with me i'll take care of him and
that's how we got work done that's how great charlie ward was is he imprinted on on on
work done and that's how we got that great individual that is work done yeah but he deserved to
be tossed into the fifth row by p j brown let's be honest dude the biggest mistake charlie board ever made
was playing basketball i understand he doesn't have cTE and he can use his knees and dot dot dot dot dot but let's
be real how great would charlie of ward been in the nfl he was so undeniable on third and long it was
i've never felt that in my life i feel two two things charlie board can complete on third and long
and my wife will never cheat on me.
Those are two truths I know, and no matter what.
Zazel, did you have something here for Burt?
No.
Okay.
Bert.
People get your tickets at Burt, Burt, Burt, Burt.com.
Was BurtBertBert.com not available?
What happened there?
No, that's a dog.
It was Burt, Burt, was a dog.
Burt was an real estate agent.
And I tried to get Diet Burt.
I tried the white gorilla.
I tried Green State.
I tried Burt, Burt, Burt, Burt.
I just figured four Burt's was ridiculous.
three really like Torah, Torah, Torah.
The touring lifestyle, are you going to let go of that at all?
I know that you love the stand-up,
but you have all of these other things that are calling you,
and sometimes you might not exactly want to be flying to Minneapolis.
I don't fly.
I drive in a bus.
I'm like John Madden.
I love touring.
I will never quit touring.
Touring is more fun than being at home with my family than sitting in Hawaii on the beach.
Touring is the best.
The lifestyle rocks.
You're with your.
boys it's like camp every night everyone's drinking giggling falling asleep you wake up you have lunch
you find an activity due in said city you take a nap you work out you go on stage you drink and you
do it all over again it is touring is touring is groundhogs day but with your favorite people in the
world but when's the last time you had a negative experience with someone in the in the crowd uh i don't know
I mean, not to, but it's like I'm in an arena, so it's like I'm a little distant.
So like I don't really hear.
If someone's upset, I don't hear.
Oh, the last time I'm the last thing, like, that is, that is.
I'm in an arena, buddy.
I'm not playing small, but I'm not playing with a little security's problem.
I made eye contact in two years.
I can't hear their voices up there.
Can't even see them from where it is that they're yelling.
Never mind hear them.
I don't know if even they're even there.
So I, I, I, I'll tell you what, the big problem you get in a.
this is like I did I'm doing red rocks again and you get complaints from the people like at the
very very top they're like I could barely see the show and at a certain point you're like you're like yeah
that that does suck like why would I sell tickets to that far away to that person that that's the
biggest complaint you get is the people that in the cheap seats are like dude I couldn't see anything
because you like money that's why yeah yeah listen I got Rolexes to pay for guys they don't pay
for themselves and the wives too I got my my wrists are light and
If I don't hold them down with this stuff, I'm just up here.
That's a heavy boy, Dan.
Can you take us back through the journey?
Take us from Red Rocks, for example, to what were the worst of the venues you were playing
when you couldn't have imagined the idea that you would be playing someplace like Red Rocks?
Oh, my God.
I mean, dude, Dayton, Ohio on a Thursday night with 35 people in the audience and 25 of them
don't want to be there.
And you're just, and that's when I started taking my shirt off because I was like,
I'm miserable.
I'm missing my family.
This can't be the dream.
$1,300 and I'm paying half to the taxes.
I'm going to pay for my own flight, my own hotel.
The only thing I'm getting free is Heineken.
And I was like, and I was miserable.
I mean, Miami.
Miami was one of the hardest clubs in the country.
I remember going on stage and no one laughing to the point where I didn't think they
spoke English.
And I would try to make a joke about that.
And they were like, I remember one time in Miami, I had to, I was like, I was bombing.
And I was like, okay, I'm not certain everyone here is fluent in English.
So what I want to do is I'm going to bring a black guy and a Cuban guy on stage.
And can you just translate to your people and tell them what I'm saying?
And they were like, yeah.
And I brought a black dude and a Cuban guy.
And I said, I was talking to a girl.
And the black guy just looks at me and he goes, can a player get some conversation?
And the place goes bananas.
Bananas.
And then the Cuban guy just says it in Spanish.
And then we talked about oral sex.
And it was like, and it was like completely white guy.
did not translate to these guys. And so that that was like a turning point in my career when I realized
the gloves have to be off. You have to be up for anything. You can't, I mean, you can't have some
set program ready to just regurgitate to an audience. You got to be like up for anything. How long
ago was that? That was 19 years ago. All right. Well, congratulations on all the success, sir.
It looks like it's a good deal of fun to be you these days. It's not bad being you either.
the the Florida state experience your best sports experience because you've had a number of them here
where you found yourself in some surreal positions with athletes what comes closest to being the Florida
state speech or beating it or being it oh uh the even better than the speech directly after my
shirts off tom's teared up he's like that was one of the most amazing things and michael alfred
comes up the athletic director and he goes come on let's go and we're like where are we going and he walks us to
center of the field right by the seminal head and chief osceola comes up on renegade and spikes the burning
spear feet from us and Tommy looks at me tears coming down his face and he's like this is the greatest day
of my life and I mean that that I'm getting chill bumps talking about it but for any seminal you know that
your first experience of watching that spear going into the 50 yard line is the the roar the power of that
stadium and then to be there shirtless on the 50 yard line with my best friend was something
that I mean, I don't have memories like that with my wife or my children, you know, to be honest with you.
Good seeing you, Bert.
I always remember that Cortez Kennedy had to be restrained from punching the horse.
Thank you.
Good seeing you, sir.
I love you, brother.
Thank you so much.
