The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Chris Cote's Michael Jackson Leg Kick (feat. Pat Forde)

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Pat Forde has done some tremendous reporting on the gambling scandals across sports happening right now, and he joins the show to break down the details of his reporting. Then, Taylor has been producing purposefully bad content, including our take line, and Michael Kay blew Dan away with his killer dance moves in an elevator. Plus, we play the first rendition of Chris Cote's new game: "Patriotic or Annoying?" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I don't think we around here have done a very good job of talking about these gambling stories involving John Tate Porter or more recently Terry Rozier when he was in Charlotte. You can listen to the podcast of Pat 40 College Football and Choir. He does it with Dan Wetzel and Ross Dellinger but he's also a senior writer for Sports Illustrated and he just reported with Michael Rosenberg the latest news inside a gambling ring that will look to me from where I'm standing. This could be a monster story here and it seems like it's becoming something that

will become larger in days and weeks, but Pat joins us now with some of his fresher reporting. And Pat, why is it that people aren't paying attention to some of the things you're paying attention to here that has, you know, federal and NCAA authorities investigating something in a way that feels like a more relevant investigation than the average NCAA investigation, which can be pretty useless. And thank you for joining us, by the way. Yeah. Hey, happy to be with you. And yeah, this is an interesting one that could get significantly more interesting. I agree. Why aren't people paying as much attention? Well, for one thing, you know,

John Day Porter, first of all, is a bit player in the NBA who's been banned, so he's past tense. Terry Rosario's kept playing, to the surprise of some, but there's an investigation underway there into one game in particular when he was at Charlotte. The college stuff is generally speaking with lower level schools that are under investigation.

And I think it's easy for people to tune out what may be happening at Eastern Michigan or North Carolina A&T or Mississippi Valley State or even Temple and some others. So, you know, I think it's one of those we're gonna, the more this kind of succeeds upon itself and builds upon itself, the more people are going to be forced to pay attention. We're coming up to March, Dan, when people really start to lock in on

college basketball. And I think there's going to be reason to worry and wonder how many schools have gambling problems. All right, Pat, let's talk about this though because i do believe that uh... these uneasy tensions between so much of the gambling money uh... being responsible for floating what's happening in sports right now and you can get in bed with lower level schools and make yourself money in a way that really threatens the integrity of what it is that we're watching so

just take us through some of your humanizing investigation of the characters involved here because this is you're doing reporting here and your meetings basically these gambling characters that of course are going to be kind of from the underworld and know how to get in bed with, you know, kids who want to make a few extra thousand dollars. Yeah, not exactly choir boys involved in this as you would not be surprised to find out. The two characters that we honed in on the story, one is named Shane Hennan, a gambler who was arrested at the Las Vegas airport last month as he was attempting to go to Columbia on a one-way ticket. He has been linked to the Porter gambling ring. And

then another guy named Marvis Fairley from Mississippi who has his name has not come out publicly, but he has been described by Shane Hinnan himself as my partner. And both these guys have gambling tout services. They also have lengthy criminal records. Shane Hinnon has been involved with cocaine trafficking, an assault, violations of parole, and then again was just arrested last month. Marvis Fairley was up on a murder rap which he ended up did not get convicted or due time for but has had several brushes with the law himself. And as you you alluded to the schools that we're

talking about here first of all yeah there's not a lot of players that are flush with NIL money there's not a lot of guys that have NBA futures that they need to protect so could they be more vulnerable to being compromised yes they could the other thing these are largely bad teams at lower levels. The University of New Orleans came out today from Jeff Goodman that for their top five scores have not played since January during a gambling investigation. Does anybody notice if New Orleans has a gambling problem? If their players are sitting out? If Eastern Michigan does? If Mississippi Valley does? These are the worst programs, generally speaking,

in Division One, and there's just not a lot of attention being paid to what's happening there. So how are people, investigators, finding out about this? Like you mentioned, there are a lot of small bad teams. How are you, you know, catching wind of this as a reporter? Yeah, it's a good question, Jessica, and, it comes back to the gambling watchdogs that we have in place now to monitor legal wagering are much more attuned to who's doing the betting where and how. And so this goes back, you know, the Porter stuff that that was that was discovered in and of itself, but the temple thing in particular, there was a game

March 7 last year against UABAB where the first half line shot out of the stratosphere. So all of a sudden it's like, what's going on there? People notice and they may be able to track who is betting and where. I think some of this stuff originates with offshore wagering and offshore books that are kind of saying, wait a minute, something's not right here and they will alert integrity monitors. And then those people will start watching. And when you had the Temple UAB game last year, all of a sudden, they're putting out

an alert nationwide to regulators saying, take the game off of your books. And so then you start there and it's just kind of peeling back layers of an onion. One thing leads to another needs to another. What are the dumbest things you uncovered? Well, I would say the most unusual, not bets that have actually been tied to game fixing. But Shane Hinnan bet a first half line on a big South Conference quarterfinal between Longwood and Campbell.

Why would you do that unless you thought you had a pretty good amount of insight on that? He bet $300,000 on an ACC tournament game. That's a lot of money now. It's a high profile game. But $300,000, I talked to some bookmakers who said we wouldn't even take a bet that big. The reason I bring it up is because you've got something that is truly amateur that is like many of these point fixing scandals in the history of sports at the very

least do us the courtesy of having criminals who have some sort of ability to conceal these things. What you're talking about here could potentially become a seismic gambling sports scandal that starts with real stupidity. Yeah it starts with with greed or recklessness or whatever you know I mean these we are dealing with and I've talked to people when we were you know going through the reporting this is like what kind of people are doing this like gambling addicts, adrenaline addicts, people who can't keep quiet, people who can't, you know, get a big score and then keep it to themselves, they got to brag about it. And so that just breeds a recklessness that I think maybe got emboldened, and especially

if you were having success doing this offshore, and maybe your conduit offshore was cut off and you had to then go to North American bookmakers, well, there's a little more regulation there, a little more oversight. You may just overstep your bounds. So we're not talking about people who are necessarily the most disciplined, buttoned down, nefarious gamblers. So part of your article also talked about how Shane would go and hustle people in private poker games and decided to tell them he was his brother for some reason, which seems like best case scenario, they find out that you're cheating them and then they come after your brother instead of you. What is the thinking in that?

Good question there. That's been alleged by people in the poker world that Shane Hennan was a card cheat. He and some of the other guys actually who have been arrested in the Porter gambling ring. You know, I did have somebody say to me that Shane Hennan's fairly fortunate to kind of still be in one piece if what has been alleged about him is true,

if you've been a cocaine dealer and you've been a card cheat and you may be trying to work the margins on, on game fixing. You're damn gambling or you're dabbling in a lot of risky behaviors, I guess you would say. Um, but the, the, the poker world, which there is a poker world, I'm not familiar with it, but there is a poker world out there and they're all like, Oh yeah, that guy, I'm not surprised he's involved. Same with this guy Bruce Pham, who was in the Jontay Porter case.

Forgive me, I wasn't listening to anything you said because throughout your answer, Jessica and Billy were taunting me because they got you to say good question and none of my questions have been any good. Why don't you try it? You keep asking and you'll get to a good one. Yeah, try it. That's a big moment here, Dan.

Let's go. Let's hear a good one. Yeah, but now he knows so he's just gonna say good question. Or, well. That's a big moment here, Dan, let's go. Let's hear a good one. Yeah, but now he knows, so he's just gonna say good question. Or, well, let's see. Don't give it away, Pat. We'll find out together here. Your best guess based on the reporting, this mushroom clouds into what kind of scandal?

That is an excellent question. Oh, come on, Pat, just give it out. Come on. Just give it out. Excellent. I'm here to make friends with everybody. Not Henin. No.

And not his friend who you just outed either, his partner. You outed his partner and he didn't have anything to, he wasn't even in this paperwork. I think that there potentially is more at the NBA level. I think that's being looked at. I am sure there is more at the college level that's being looked at. I am sure there is more at the college level that's being looked at. How big does this get?

I can't tell you. Are we gonna have 50 schools under investigation? Probably not. One thing that's interesting here, I mean, I've heard names of a half dozen other schools, most of them on the lower levels. There's a lot of eligibility cases where if it's just players who are gambling, the NCAA doesn't even release

eligibility rulings. So there might have been guys that sat out six games, 12 games, a whole season that nobody knows why for sure. So it's kind of going to be hard, I think, to quantify this. But I also talked with a gambling expert just before the show here who said it's inevitable that this gets to the Kansas-Kentucky stage. Now, I'm not saying specifically Kansas, Kentucky, but the big name programs could eventually get exposed for having gambling issues.

So if something like that were to happen and then a player would go into the pros and it would be revealed that they were part of something like this, Is there like recourse the NBA can have on suspending a player for this type of behavior too? I don't know. I'm not sure what the retroactive situation could be, but I think the NBA has gotten a little bit of a black eye over this between Porter and at least the Rozier investigation, even if that has not yet yielded anything, that I think they'd be pretty hypersensitive to having players that in any way fixed a game

or threw their own personal props or anything like that. Just, you know, it's not the kind of thing you wanna have associated with your league, that's for sure. Rozier is shooting 30% from three, worst among point guards. He's presently and actively throwing games. Well, they finally put him on the bench so he can't do that. Will you explain to me the Rosear situation? You were skeptical of

why he's still playing. What's fair there? Well, I mean, you know, that's that is probably fair and that's probably been the decision they've reached of just that, you know, unless we have something tangible to go on, we're not going to sit him down. I guess the one thing I would like to hear from him and or his attorney is, hell no, I didn't do it. I really haven't heard that from them. In the absence of that, when you have the credibility of these reports, Pat, in the absence of a denial, what legally is making it so that he can still be out there when

this happened to Porter and the evidence was very swiftly determined this is a person who needs to be banned from our league? Those are two very different reactions to similar reports. They are, absolutely. And so what you know, the original report, this was a game in March, March 23rd, 2023. And the NBA says it looked into it and found no wrongdoing. Now that clearly was not good enough for the feds Eastern District of New York is investigating and has told the NBA that so you know, was there something there that the NBA was able to, in good conscience, say,

no, we don't think so? And then the Heat and Terry Rosier and everybody else involved could say, look, we've got a good explanation for this. I need to be able to keep playing. But clearly, that needs to be explained to the federal investigators as well. Last question, and thank you for the time. It used to, to me, mean something if there was a dual federal and NCAA investigation.

But that wiretapping of college coaches before NIL became a thing was such a lukewarm disaster that I feel like the investigators had less credibility than the people inside of the business doing what was allegedly dirty so when you tell me sports illustrated is reporting that federal and ncaa authorities are investigating a gambling link a gambling ring that used to be a seismic story it does not feel like a seismic story today it feels like you're reporting on something that i think is interesting that should be more seismic but but it's not. So my question to you is why? Like this is the beginning of this, Pat.

We are in a lawless phase where of course, if you invite all of this stuff to sports and all of the gambling walls fall, of course there's gonna be this all over the place with competition of holics and with addicts. Yeah, no, I mean, I can't tell you that this is going to be this all over the place with competition, a hollocks and with addicts. Yeah, no, I mean I can't tell you that this is going to be watergate and I think your skepticism of both the ncaa and the feds when it

comes to college basketball is well warranted because it became an absolute force the the the investigation back in 2017 18, whatever it was you know is this going to yield a lot? I don't know. There's been some speculation, and I can't tell you whether it's completely accurate or not, but that if the feds have a choice of expending their efforts on NBA players or a guy at North Carolina A&T, they're not going to care that much about the college end of this,

and maybe this fizzles out, but I do know the NCAA is certainly actively looking into things, and again, you know, we're seeing players in a lot of different places who are suddenly not playing. Fresno State just benched two guys over the weekend and had a third who hadn't played since January. Again, the New Orleans thing I mentioned, North Carolina A&T's had two players that have stopped playing. So it's affecting a lot of places right now. Is it going to lead to a mushroom cloud, as you said? I don't know, maybe at least just a good smoke cloud. Can you guys tell me what that distracting color is behind

Pat? How would you describe that color? Delightful red. I think it's like a garnet. Is it? What is it? Is it Ruby is it crimson is it Ruby's good I like Ruby I would go with Ruby I think so my shirt kind of almost matches like the red it does not actually matches the undershirt you do that on purpose it's it does that's the undershirt I wake up every day planning how I'm gonna look on the damn lebatard. There it is red wine Good seeing you Pat. Thank you for the information sir. Thank you

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We have some anarchists among our production team. We have some anarchists all around the building. I believe Taylor is one of them. I don't know if Taylor's trying to keep his employment by making purposefully bad things, but he seems to make some purposefully bad things and delight in the making of bad things as that's a way to career advancement

So we put him in charge of boldest take and I got to tell you this used to be a chair of Cherished terrain for us. I will tell you that Billy and Chris even before Billy and Chris were on this show We trained our audience to be creative competitively at funny and the remnants of that audience that now call this take line Insults me insults the history of this show, insults everything we've made around here for 20 years because some people just call the take line and just start talking to a friend like for five minutes just yammering and it's not a take, it's not funny, it's not people trying to be creative, it's just people calling and leaving voicemails in a way that hasn't had a lot of creativity in it

But that those don't make air those just Taylor has to listen to those so that's okay This is the best of what we've got This is the refined version of Taylor taking the very best calls editing them down to their distilled best and they're not good enough I would also tell you that I've gotten this from Taylor if you're calling and he sees because he can see the length of these Files before he listens if he sees that it is more than like two minutes, he's not listening to it at all, so you're just wasting your time. And not even anyone else's, just yours,

because it's not getting listened to. I was gonna say like 45 seconds. Two minutes is generous. Well, some of them are like five minutes long, he's like, nope. I meet people all the time who have been listening to our show for 20 years, and those people know how

Embarrassing it is that this creative community that used to compete to be funny has shriveled down to Taylor can't take more than two minutes of what you're doing on the other line 305 486 gots is the number we've got a purchased phone line Gotz is the number we went out and got a phone and a line so that you can do this. The Boost Mobile Boldest Take from the Week is presented by Boost Mobile, the newest 5G network in the country.

This is very exciting, Dan. We got 90 seconds here. The best of the best. Of the last 10 days or so. That's right. Of our creative community shriveled down to this. That's right. I think the way we demonized the chef and ratatouille seemed a

little bit too much I also would not be eating food from a rat how good would the food have to be if the entire kitchen were rat. What is the obsession of America with bagels bagels overrated. Yeah, Brian out of Columbus Columbus I got a hot take for you every Bob Seeger song is one minute too long yo it's your boy P representing Southwest Florida my bold take is any candy with

the word candy in it is trash cotton candy candy corn candy cans hey Dan Mike in Arlington Virginia calling my bold take is that restaurants should not have menus. So instead they just make one or two dishes for whatever meal it is and then you sit down and the waiter tells you what you're having. You know they can even post it online what they're making that day so you know not to go if you don't like what they're making. It's kind of a plato del dia situation, but all they have is their plato del dia.

This is Jack on a mobile in California. My hot take is that the Mons stars would have beaten Michael Jordan in Space Jam if they had any kind of good roster makeup. Okay, they had Larry Johnson, they had Charles Barkley, Sean Bradley, Mugsy Bogues, and Patrick Ewing. He's right. They have no one who can guard Michael Jordan at the point of attack.

He's right. They have all these bigs just waiting in the paint for him to get dumped on. This is Space Jam. He could dunk from half court. If they had picked Scottie Pippen over Larry Johnson, Monstars win that game. Hey, the listeners brought it. That was pretty good. Some bold takes there. Every Bob Seeger song, one minute too long. Is that true?

Bagels overrated. I was also told that people just didn't know where to put them, so there were an assortment of Michael Dolyak songs. Have you heard anything about this? Because Taylor's telling me he's got Michael Dolyak songs. What is this music bed we chose? A wonderful one. It makes the entirety of the segment. It's hold music. He said any candy with the word candy in it is trash. Candy corn, candy cane. I think he said one more, but I can't remember it.

Cotton candy. Cotton candy. He's spot on. Bagel take. Playfully anti-Semitic, right? Whoa. Who says bagels are overrated? Who does that?

It's a terrible take. Bagels are delicious. I got a great bagel story. Dan Marley told me this story. When he was playing for the Suns, when he was a rookie, they used to practice at the JCC in Phoenix because they didn't have a practice facility back then.

And every day they would set out bagels for them after practice. And I think it was Tim Perry was his teammate. But anyway, he's sitting at the lockers and they're saying, how's training camp going? Not bad. And Tim Perry says, some hard ass donuts though. Jessica, what happened to you there?

Were you just, the casual way, I mean, strolled right back in, grabs the show and then tells an uninteresting story, is that what you? No, the punchline was a good payoff, but he did seem like he was petering out while telling it a couple of times. Yeah, he just forgot who he was talking about. And gradually-

Brared Peter in the middle. It doesn't usually happen, but he comes in and out as he pleases. Let's get back to something that I wanted to do. It was funny, though. It was a bagel, yeah. Because they were bagels, not donuts, but he thought, and it was harder

because it's different consistency. I'm not saying it's not a worthy story, I'm saying he walked in kind of casually, I don't know whether we were interrupting whatever he was doing with oddball, and he's like, I got it, everybody stand back, and here, donuts, they're hard, when they're hard, they're bagels, hey hey.

I wanted to make my Monstar Jerry Krause joke, but then you can't. Another great take by a listener. That was a good take. At the end of the day, when Amin wants the ball, and they're hard, they're bagels, hey hey. I wanted to make my monstar Jerry Krause joke. Another great take by a listener. That was a good take. At the end of the day, when Amin wants the ball, you give him the ball. 305-486-G-O-T-Z is that telephone number. Do better.

Some scouts and some spies have sent me a video of my friend Michael K. from New York. I don't know if you guys have ever been surprised by one of your friends, how well they dance, but sometimes I get surprised by my friends. So just put that in the lower right-hand corner, please, of somebody who just sent me a photo, a video of Michael K dancing,

because he, Carrot Top surprised me when I saw Carrot Top, and he was more shredded than I thought he would ever be. And it surprised me when I learned that Michael K. here was this good of a dancer. Have any of your friends surprised you with how well they dance? Because Kugler surprised us the other day. But have you guys ever been surprised?

Like if Darren Ravel all of a sudden, or David Sampson, were just killer dancers, wouldn't that surprise you? If they were really good dancers? I know we're talking Kugler, but I've often gotten this. People are sometimes surprised by how I can move. You're a rhythmic dancer? Yeah, you know, I can do my thing. You're jealous of Coogler?

I'm just saying. I would have thought I would have been mentioned first, but we can say Coogler. I imagine you as Kevin James in Hitch, where someone really has to tell you to just kind of keep it in a real specific box. I do the Michael Limbs are flying everywhere. I do the Michael Jackson kick a little too often, but. You do? Oh, do you?

Yeah, he does it a lot. Well, let's see it right here. No, see, no, see. I really like it. You guys offended me. Let's watch Coog's dance. Coog, why don't you come in here and dance. He's done it on Mystery Crab.

He's done it well. No, no, no, it's fine. Let's have Coog's dance. He did it before a Panthers game. That's how, he does do it. It's a nervous tick. Oh, the Panther dance, that's right. He has a nervous tick that when he throws out the hee hee,

it's a winner. It's a crowd pleaser. I know what a winner is Wow, who's really good dancer Look at the person the rhythm look at the way he physically looks and then his dance I've actually seen Cougs a video of him dancing at a wedding and he actually can dance really well. I was about to say, cause this looks like Greg Cody when we sent him out to the dance to try out. He was dancing like that, remember?

This is foreshadowing and it's just, it's just. I'm in for a dance off. Oh, what's going on with my man in the beard in the back here? We've already analyzed that. You and Cougler, you and Coug, that's why you can't come in and out of here the way you do. It's why you should be here when we're talking.

We're gonna build up to it. We're not doing it today, I need to prepare. But I'll have a dance off. What do you need to do to prepare for a dance off? You know, look in the mirror, see what I'm working with. I need to know what song we're gonna do it to. I'm not just doing this willy nilly. I don't think dance offs are choreographed.

I think that you just go out there and you kinda like react to the music. If you have like a choreographed dance off, you're cheating. Like it's not a routine, it's a dance off. I disagree. I like the elevator format too. I think you. It's a dance off. I disagree. I like the elevator format, too I think you guys should do the elevator in an elevator I like to do the Michael K the same elevator or different elevators going up the same

It's a payoff it reminds me of Porsche and Arrested Development doing the dance during the protest inside the cage I need like some things to hold on to It's very important here in this Michael K Wouldn't be doing this if you didn't have these nice bars to hang onto. Some elevators don't have the bars. Our elevators have bars. Okay. Our elevators have bars.

We need to do this. But I do have a question, Dan. Who held the elevator door open for him? Because that elevator door is open unnaturally long. The door is to his right. Like you can see the sign on the side of the door. Like this is the side of the elevator like this is the side of the elevator Oh, I just in the elevator with him. I just had no idea floor

No, I think he put his phone down tilt it up. You can see the doors That is a closed elevator again It's something that it means giving us that's not helpful because he came in during the middle of the segment has been behind since we started You guys described the video. No, you didn't talking about it non-stop you were away. You didn't hear I was here You did what when you said you ever see your friends and say I didn't know they could dance like that my friend Now guys you need a day taunt. Let's listen guys both of you take a deep breath You've got John Sterling holding this door open when they clearly on the right side. There's an elevator door open It's in the corner. I'm like, oh neil holding over the door over Michael. Get John sterling 86

Why is why are they putting Mike Fuentes up there? Wait a minute. No, listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me right now The video team making this decision without any supervision, all of you to the penalty box. All of you. All of you. You're not allowed to just put Fuentes making a fool of himself out there. Louis is twerking on the wall.

I want that room empty. That means we're going to be stuck on whatever shot we're stuck on. I don't care. I don't care. We will keep it the same. I will not have those people making decisions for Major penalty five minutes proving comedy. All right, take us then go take us then go Like you can't put fuentes on and why is Izzy pacing?

He was shaking that thing because Izzy's doing the meeting that I jumped out of to do this goddamn show. Thank you for that. Thank you, Amin. How about that? A heroic gesture. A real heroic gesture by Amin. This would never happen in Hollywood. Hey friends, it's Jarabare here, and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network. So I must take a break from the jokes here for a second and put on my serious voice.

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All right, so that's one thing. Stugats. They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met in my face, my sure. All right, so that's one thing. Stugats. They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"]

Chris Cody, I need to get to something that I promised earlier in the show and I am ashamed that I have not done it until now. You had a great idea for a popular new show that I believe can be something that MetalArc funds and sponsors and makes lots of money, which is just playing clips and asking you is this patriotic or is it annoying? I would love to play that game with you, but I'm going to need the video team back because they're going to have to cut the something.

You kicked them out. A real catch-22, Dan-O. Yeah, it you, but I'm gonna need the video team back because they're gonna have to cut the something. That's a really good point. A real catch 22, Dan-o. Yeah, it is, but I don't need them. I can move to any number of other topics. I'll spin that wheel again, don't make me. I'll spin that wheel with those football topics on it all over again. No, I don't want you guys back in there.

No, I don't need you back in there. Look, it's like an encore. They just walked back in like the encore's happening. All right, we're back, guys, here we are. I don't need them. Look, they need to be punished. There need to be we are. I don't need them. Look, they need to be punished. There need to be consequences for, I don't have many rules around here, here's one of them.

Once we've gotten to Fuentes twerking, no. Just no! Like just that, that, that. There it is again! Get it out of here! How is that able to happen? It's not even good. If they're not in the room, how is that able to happen?

Dan, have you been watching the TV show Paradise? There's a point where one of the characters puts it on a loop and then leaves and they can't figure out, I gotta reboot the whole system to stop. You know watch Paradise? I think in that video we're courtesying Jaron who used to work for us, like years ago. We put a courtesy on it, it's just Jaron's Instagram. Also the question was, person that you expected to be bad at dancing that was better than you expected. So since I thought Fuentes would be really bad at dancing,

I think this actually is a good example. He's pretty good for a 40 year old. So Fuentes is somebody you thought would be bad at dancing. Has anyone else around here been surprised just really? There have to be some good stories there from people just being really taken aback because you're all of a sudden at a wedding

and you look over to your right and you're like, holy shit, I didn't know Carl Ravitch had those moves. Ravi can cut a rug. Pablo Torre at his wedding. You think Pablo's a good dancer? Well, that video. That would shock me. Pablo being a good dancer.

The only thing I saw was that one video and I was impressed. I was impressed, I was impressed. I didn't think Pablo had it. But then I remembered Pablo's Filipino. So technically he's an embarrassment. I should be dancing a lot more and a lot better. No, I know all about that.

All right, let's play patriotic or annoying. All right, we're gonna play a video here. Imagine you're on a plane. All right, you're having a nice long flight. And all of a sudden somebody walks to the front of the thing, grabs the little microphone that the flight attendants talk on. Intercom.

And, relax. And he sings, and this is what you hear. Is this patriotic or annoying? I pray that I won't forget the man who loved me gave a right to me and'll gladly stand up next to you And defend the steel today Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God bless the West End

All right, let's go around the room. Amin, is that patriotic or annoying? Why are you starting with me? I would be annoyed. If I'm on that flight and all of a sudden people are singing, I'm like, no, no thanks. Is Chris Cody anti-American? Yeah, put it on the poll, Dan.

I'll be anti-American. I don't want that on my flight. No, I mean, we can all agree. That sucks, right? I'm good in the terminal. Maybe the terminal before the flight. Insecurity, let's get a song going in security. No, do we know each other?

Do we know each other? Me and you? No, the people on this flight, on this hypothetical flight. Do all 192 people on this flight know each other? I doubt it. Yes, then no. Where was that coming from or going to? Because they all seemed like in on it for some reason.

Yeah, they were together. This seemed like not a themed flight, but they were all kind of aligned on what we're singing. January 6th? But no, wait a minute, this seemed like not a themed flight But like they were all kind of like aligned on well, but January 6th, but no wait a minute This is a mega anthem Lee Greenwood like this John Oliver did a whole big special on I won't let that and how it was written for Canada an American song was it but it's not he literally wrote proud to be a Canadian it's the same exact words except for To be a Canadian It's the same exact words except for Canada. We're proud to be a Canadian.

Yeah, that's right. We're at least on the road. I have healthcare. Oh. Isn't that the words? When we were leaving New Orleans, I have never experienced a fun airport like they were having when we were leaving New Orleans.

The people at Security were dancing because they had a band set up that was playing in the central patio area. Dude, they were having so much fun, like while we were going through, like to the point that I'm like, I'm fine for you to like check my bag again. Like, I noticed you're like doing a little dip

when we were checking something, like we can go through this one more time. Like I got plenty of time here. A lot of fun was being had at that airport. I kind of liked it. People liked doing their jobs. I feel like the airport's not the fun place to be right now, although you were, you just flew this morning. I mean. I feel like the airport's not the fun place to be right now, although you just flew this morning.

I mean, I feel like a new horror story every minute. What's this new trend that people are putting on the internet where they're like, I can get through airport security into my gate in 10 minutes at every airport ever. And it's like, I've never experienced this at any airport ever. How do you guys keep getting from the door of your car

to your gate in seven minutes? because they're cutting out the waiting Well, I know but why why are they like why are they in a video? Why are they lying about this because Billy? It's the internet. This is where we are web 3.0 Cloud yep, it doesn't matter People people are flying vastly more scared though You're getting a lot of videos of people getting onto airplanes like in a prayerful state because of the amount of terror involved with, hey, what is that happening on a Delta runway in Canada?

Why is the plane upside down and on fire? Well, a couple things. Number one, don't use the word terror because when it comes to planes, that has a very specific connotation. I know what you meant, like, that is in terrifying, but terror, planes, not so much. Number two, we're actually behind pace from last year,

in terms of accidents up until this point. So. Big win. Yeah, we're actually doing better. Okay, progress. The internet would not tell you that. Is this the Streisand effect I mean? Yes.

And? Fear is the way that one spreads, and it would be totally understandable if you feel like there's some instability in structures Government and otherwise given a number of things that are happening the crash in DC where all the people died Even if it counts as one crash actually should count as more because that hasn't happened in the US for like decades Yeah, like people like two aircrafts crashing into each other. And several dozen people dying. Fatalities, yeah.

So you're just saying, when you say that we're having a down year, that's just like regular crashes that don't involve political? It's late February and he's talking, he's playing semantics with lives in a way that was foolish. Dry his hand, 82. Semantics with lives?

I would never. You are playing with numbers there. It's not fictitious to say that after the government stripped down the FAA a couple of a plane and a helicopter Collided in the sky over Washington and there were a whole bunch of people dying What are you doing a helicopter like a lobster in a helicopter? imagine if that was like Great thing to fight against Godzilla and King Kong in these movies.

A helicopter. Yes, right? We don't want to minimize the tragedy, though. No, thank you, Billy. I do appreciate it. I spit a word incorrectly, and then all of a sudden, the tragedy is minimized. That's something that happens around here.

Welcome to the show. That's correct. I want to play some video here of Chris Eubank Jr. smashing an egg off of Conor Benn because the Fight Press Conference has gotten to a place, a place now where the fighters are bringing eggs out in their hands to promote a fight and then hitting the opponent in the face with an egg,

which is a good left hand, like you can't let that happen. You can't- If you blink, you miss the egg. You can't know that the egg is not there and I mean he is understandably angry look at that he wants to fight those people there that's seven people holding him back because of the insult of that guy just hit me in the face with an egg which is more insulting than anything else he could have hit me in the face with now I I am a foolish ignorant man. Why were there eggs? So that we would talk about the clip.

That's right. So that an egg would smash on somebody's face. Because if there was no egg, we wouldn't be talking about this fight whatsoever. Waste of eggs though. The question is, did he have the egg in his little jacket pocket, or was it like just holding it maybe

and his hands behind his back? That egg cost like two dollars. Two dollars, where? Show me. I don't like that dollars. Yeah. Two dollars, where? Show me. I don't like that the fight was called Fatal Fury, because I feel like it's not gonna deliver. I mean, there's an egg though. But, I mean, two men are entering, two men are exiting.

Probably not. Not Fatal Fury. Unlikely to be fatal is correct, unlikely. But if a man were beaten to death, you would really regret that commentary. Oh, I mean, I, I look I hope it doesn't happen That's correct. I know I'm saying that through a smile I hope that neither one of them perish, but you're predicting that this you're saying this is false advertising

It can't it's very unlikely statistically to be a fury. That's fatal probably unlikely I will say though if it wasn't called fatal fury, and there wasn't an egg We definitely wouldn't be talking about it, but, I probably will never think about this fight again. It won't be fatal, but it will be egg-cellent. What if it is fatal, but there's no fury? Egg-cellent, get it Dan? There's already fury, I mean, he just got hit in the face with an egg.

Yeah, but what if the fight happens and there's actually no fury, but then someone dies? Okay, well that would be regrettable. Like a heart attack the day before or something? That'd be terrible. It would be fatal. It would be pretty amazing though if your commentary on this would be this can't be embarrassing to me and we remember it forever because it was the day you said no one would die and someone did. Howdy folks it's Mike and look it's been an exhausting couple of weeks.

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