The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: College Football Stuff But Not Exclusively The College Football Playoff

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Gen CFB with Jessica and Lucy is coming up in just a bit, but we have to get excited for Conference Championship Weekend BEFORE the College Football Playoff. Then, Tony is supremely confident that he ...has a jingle Dan and Izzy will love. Plus, Jessica Smetana and Lucy Rohden are back with a new episode of Gen CFB. They react to a rivalry week for the ages with Ohio State getting upset by Michigan as a massive favorite, Miami ruining their playoff chances with a loss at Syracuse, and look ahead to conference championship week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. Folks, with the holidays around, I'm telling you, I just did this for my wife. Go on the Game Time app, buy your spouse, your brother, your sister, a ticket to something for the holidays. People don't want things, okay? They want experiences. Take them to a sporting event, take them to a concert.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I did that for my wife. You download the Game Time app, you create an account, use code Dan. We're gonna give you $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download the Game Time app today. What time is it, Tony? Game Time.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Do you guys think that I should make my thing, have an experience with Dan Lebatard, if you wanna have a conversation with me for the rest of the time, you gotta bring me a toy? Absolutely. Like that becomes my thing, where it's not, I'm in perpetual toy drive mode, I'm Santa, you want a human interaction with me,
Starting point is 00:01:02 the exchange, the transaction is, you've got to bring me a toy I'm gonna start this on Sunday. See if I can do this. Maybe I'll go to the MMA hangout as well I just and just force force people to give me toys Jen CFB is coming up here in minutes Lucy and Jess have been run into the ground by college football They're going to miss it, but it's not yet gone. We've got conference championship games this weekend. One large explosion here before we stumble into Army Navy
Starting point is 00:01:33 and then take a month of rest from football. That's true. I'm super excited for the Mountain West championship game between Boise State and UNLV. That's gonna be a rematch of a game earlier this season. UNLV runs the go-go offense with Brennan Mary, in which we talked about on Gen CFB when Gojo was on a few months ago.
Starting point is 00:01:51 It's a fun offense, and I think people are sleeping on this game, because this could dramatically shake things up if UNLV does commit the upset here. But on the other side, Boise and Ashton Gentey, obviously one of the best college football players of the season probably will not win the Heisman it looks like Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter is great why are you booing Travis Hunter? Because I want Ashton Gentry to win it. Okay fair I mean fair everyone has their own
Starting point is 00:02:15 criteria. You just booed him and then it was fair. They're both deserving. I wouldn't boo Ashton Gentry. I don't think anyways someone's got someone's got to win the award I think it's gonna be Travis Hunter, but they're both great players both deserving He's just putting up monster numbers as you're obviously so that's gonna be a really exciting game I have a quick question for you quick question So all the last three days that we've been arguing about Alabama getting in Miami not getting in if Boise State loses to UNLV Does then Miami get in no because the the highest ranked G5 champion will get in. So even if it's Boise or UNLV, that spot will go to a G5 champion. You think we've been yelling at each other for three days,
Starting point is 00:02:51 and there's a chance that Miami still gets in? Maybe. There's always a chance. No, and the big 12th champion will get in. So it's the top five confidence champions. The top four get four buys. Tony, it was a truly terrible question. No, I think it was the first year of the 12th of the plan. People are confused.
Starting point is 00:03:07 There's people there that didn't understand that were like hey what like wait a second What if Boise loses what if they're ranked 12? If Boise loses obviously they're not gonna get a they're not gonna get a bye week They're not gonna be one of the top ranked conference champions They're gonna be out of the playoff completely. Good question. That's gonna be they lost Oregon earlier this season That's it for them so huge game for the Mountain West champion. In Tony's defense, he only said it would be a quick question. It was a quick one. Go Go Offense is a great name for an offense.
Starting point is 00:03:29 It is awesome. It's like optiony, but there's some passing and some deception and it's cool. It's gonna be great. The ACC championship, also people are sleeping. I think people like assume Clemson will win cause they're like, oh, SMU like they didn't get, they didn't have to play the best of the best
Starting point is 00:03:43 this year in the ACC. Clemson's gonna smoke them. I don't know about Jim. I first of all, I think The world minus Clemson fans. They don't want to see Clemson in the playoff They're like get the hell out of here. You can't back way your back like slide into this Exactly, Chris, you can't back way. You're in it You can't this is what I want to, and this is how I truly feel. You can't slide ass backwards into the playoff after the season, but you can, because if you win the ACC and beat SMU, you're in.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's called the Saquon Barque. Which is ridiculous. I think SMU's got a real shot at upsetting Clemson here, which wouldn't, I mean, is it an upset? They're ranked higher, but I guess technically it's an upset. It's gonna be fun, that's the eight o'clock game in Charlotte. I'm super stoked for it. And then the other two games, like, there could be upsets.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Penn State could be Oregon, that would be crazy. They'd probably be the number one team in the country if that happened, because they'd have the best win over the undefeated team. Georgia and Texas, a rematch, that's gonna be great. We got QSAR on Friday, we got the match-in on Saturday. Oh my God, the American Athletic Army playing for a championship this weekend. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Although I think Tulane might win that one. Heat Lakers was last night. It used to mean something. It was great. And she just misses football. And I feel like a go-go offense should have passing, deception, and dance. I feel like dance needs to be one of the things
Starting point is 00:05:04 that there is in a go-go. Forgot Marshall in Louisiana. The fun belt! The raging Cajuns. That was a commercial for college football. If you want more commercial for college football, Gen CFB is gonna be in a couple of minutes, but I want to reminisce with Tony
Starting point is 00:05:19 over old Miami radio commercials. I wanna make this a weekly segment, Tony. The good thing is there's always retro things to go back to. So this week, we haven't done it in a while. It feels like it's been months since we've had a Tony's Retro Miami commercial of the day. And today's, I think Izzy's going to get it. Dan, you're going to get it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I don't think anybody else in the shipping container is going to get it. Bad day for Billy not to be here. Billy for sure would have gotten it. And I think a lot of people in the audience will get it too. So Chris, this is a commercial that I grew up listening to, that I will quote, that I will sing at random times all throughout my life.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Here it is. I Have never heard that Okay, hold on we need a what kind of Hispanics are you guys I every word. He's gonna be like, someone out there that's heard it. Come in here. Hold on, you've never heard of Arroz Rico? Es que le gusta mi gente. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What were you listening to?
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm sorry. Who are you gonna get out there? Forgive me, I don't, I just, I don't know what that commercial is. Carmen's heard of it. I'm sorry, but I think that Tony grew up in a different part of Cuban Miami than I did. I don't know where. Who were you gonna get from out there?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Arroz Rico? What were you going to get from him? Danny B says he knows every word. Where were you listening to that? On what, Power 96? No, no, that's on TV. That's when my grandparents had the TV and I couldn't change whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But you made him back door or whatever they were watching. The music video for this song is a bunch of kids dancing in front of a garage. And they're like, ah, arroz rico. Si, baby, mami, por favor. Yeah, we heard it. Let me explain to the English audience. Arroz rico.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Here we go. Please, mom, serve it to me. Para comer, cantar, y bailar. For me to dance, sing, and play around, there's nothing better. I'm here for Tony. Keep working it out. Keep working it out. There's nothing better. I'm here for Tony singing translations. Tony, for me to eat, sing and dance is nothing better.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Whoa. Tony. Yummy rice is what my people like. Tony, Tony. There it is, there it is, there it is. Tony, I asked you before this segment, do you have a big close for me before gen CFB and you said to me that you were certain that from the 50 topics at our disposal that this would
Starting point is 00:07:51 be the one that would engage the room and but here and now I get it I'm very confident about this one Tony's never that aggressive about knowing anything's going to work and he's generally wildly too confident. The idea that you would think that that commercial would make me happy when I was hearing it for the first time that your judgment would be that bad is legitimately breathtaking. I know what's gonna happen. I know what's gonna happen, Dan. By the way. Oh, the audience is gonna scream at me and they're gonna call me un guano arrepentido but I've never seen that commercial that's fine
Starting point is 00:08:27 but in about what's at 1130 right now in about four hours you're gonna send me a tweet that somebody sent you and tagged you and you're gonna send it to me and they'd be like that was the greatest thing I've ever heard I hadn't heard that in 20 years thank you for for showing our culture to the world thank everybody for showing our culture to the world. Everybody! For the culture! And... Sireme mami, por favor! Para mi canta la llave, existe nada mejor! Hey!
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Starting point is 00:12:03 Hi, Jen. Jenny. Jen, how was Michigan in Ohio State? Very uneventful, very casual, very chill, incredibly low-key. Remember when we laughed about Michigan only having like 32 passing yards earlier this year? We were like, which was your favorite passing? I think that was an Alex Orji game. Well, this one was somehow more passing yards technically, but man, in a winning effort,
Starting point is 00:12:31 how about that? It was just funniest case scenario the entire way around. I think the only thing that could have been funnier is like if Michigan had like 400 passing yards and Ridley was just like, we were saving up. Ah, gotcha. That actually would be really funny. No, instead it was nine completions, 62 yards for Davis Warren and a winning victory over the Buckeyes. Pretty good. It's like, it's, it was funny when it happened.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It was funny when Rose got pepper sprayed. It was. Uh, and then going back and like just relooking over the stats after this game happened made everything funnier. Because it's just like, how did you manage to blow this? How did you manage to do literally nothing? It's the entire time watching that game, it felt very much like to me that Ohio State went in with the mindset of we are just more talented than you
Starting point is 00:13:22 and that is why we will win. We're like Michigan plays a very specific brand of football and they've had to rely on that this season more than ever before. So you knew exactly what they were going to do. There was never a question. The only question was they're missing their best player on offense and defense, which you think would help your case. It did not. And then you just lost. You didn't plan for Michigan at all. You said, we're just, ah, we are 20 million dollars. The whole thing, I think, is just one of the biggest, like, coaching meltdowns I've ever seen,
Starting point is 00:13:52 or failures I've ever seen. I don't care what anybody says, like, coach can't make the player make a field goal. Shut up. You can prepare for Michigan. You know what they're gonna do. I knew what they were gonna do. How did you not know? Ryan Day looked like he had seen several ghosts. He just, him mouthing the word what happened as the fight was sort of breaking up at the end of the game. By
Starting point is 00:14:14 the way, Lucy, I don't know about you, but I was, I was sobbing my eyes. I was screaming. I was crying. I was kicking my feet because flag planting. It's the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. It's so terrible. It just made me want to throw up a puke everywhere. It's so bad. It's so terrible. Please, no more. It's almost as bad as the upside down handsides. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I saw Riley Leonard do the upside down fight on for the USC upset. And I said, you sir, get off the Notre Dame football. You are too disrespectful. Get off this football team right now. You do not belong in the golden blue. I hope they revoked a scholarship. I do. They took away all his NIL money. They said, give us that Roeback hoodie back. You can't
Starting point is 00:14:55 have that anymore. Sorry. You're not in these commercials anymore. It's disgusting. Don't do upside down hand signals and definitely don't do flag planting and also don't do the Gator chop over your knee if you beat Florida. Don't that's it's ruining the game. Oh my God. It's we should expect more from all of these, these fresh out of high school kids, we should and definitely we should have expected more from Ryan Day at
Starting point is 00:15:18 this game. Yeah, that one. Oh my God. Let's see. Okay. You know what I thought about on Saturday? We had a take last season, I wanna say early in the season, perhaps,
Starting point is 00:15:32 about Ryan Day, where we were like, this is bad, he's not long for this world. Ohio State fans, they're winning, he's got a tremendous winning record. Like he's only lost like a couple handfuls of games in college football since he took over as the head coach at Ohio State. But Ohio State fans are not happy.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And it got posted on social media, and a ton of Ohio State fans got really mad at us. And they were like, you don't know what you're talking about. We love Ryan Day. He's the best coach ever. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I feel vindicated today. Maybe we were a year early on our take, but Ohio State fans are gonna make the playoff,
Starting point is 00:16:04 and they're gonna be pissed about it because they lost this game. Yeah, that's like, the internet reaction we got, I thought was crazy because like my entire job is going out to Ohio State games every once in a while and asking them, do they hate Ryan Day? And usually the answer's like, eh, yeah. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So like, I'm out, I'm talking to the field, you know, I'm out direct with the source. It's just one of those. You know what the people want. And I will say, I went into this game, this is the first game at Ohio State we had ever covered. I was very nervous because I've heard just like not pleasant things about Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And for some reason, I went to Ohio State don't tend to play very often, so I've actually never been to a game there. So I've avoided most of it. They were incredibly kind, welcoming and friendly people, like genuinely. And we had someone with us, like Michigan producer, like he had stuff on, which I told him not to wear his own fault. And they were still, yeah, they were still very nice to him.
Starting point is 00:17:01 So like, I think just the people online are very irrational. But I think it's one of those things where like, they always, you know, they do the same hype video every year before the game. And it's a fan being like, we don't care if we go one and 11, unless that one is against Michigan, you know, like they always have that like- Which is not true. Which is not true at all. But it is like a different sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:17:25 This is a job that requires you win that game and you haven't won that game. And like whatever the last three years, not great. This year, devastatingly embarrassing and just honestly inexcusable because you had no plan in place for what Michigan was gonna do when everyone on the planet knew
Starting point is 00:17:46 what Michigan was going to do. Facts, and yeah, you guys would be mad if you lost to Akron, don't lie. You know you would be mad if you started the season 0-1-1 against Akron and then lost to Western Michigan. Don't lie about that. But yeah, this is like an all-time weirdest case scenario for Ohio State and only something that could happen
Starting point is 00:18:02 this year with the 12-team playoff because this game kicked them out of the Big Ten Championship. Penn State is now going to play Oregon, but Ohio State, they have two losses, one to Michigan and one to Oregon, who's probably going to be, if they win this weekend, the number one seed in the playoffs. And I don't know, Ohio State's fine. They might win a playoff game. They might win a couple of playoff games. Taylor shaking his head no, but I think they have a good team. I think that they are. I think that also I'll go back for a second and say,
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think every team in the field right now is capable of winning at least a playoff game. Not that they all will, but they are all capable of doing it, which is why it's a great field this year. I know maybe you're giving me side eye because of like UNLV or Boise or... Oh, no, that wasn't actually the one I'm doing it for. I'm not going to say it because their fans are are gonna be really mad but you you know who I'm
Starting point is 00:18:47 talking about obviously yeah I didn't say you said it you said it okay I think even Penn State's I shouldn't say even Penn State I think Penn State's when capable of winning a playoff game anyways I digress my point is Ohio State's still gonna make the playoff they still have a chance of winning a national championship this didn't end their season like it has in years past, but everyone's still super unhappy. And you get the added bonus of the entire world watching you guys fight about this flag after the game. Michigan's star running back saying, learn how to lose.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And Gus Johnson narrating it like it was a funeral. And it was just the perfect start to rivalry weekend. My favorite part about the Gus Johnson being like, nobody wants to see this is the last three hours. He was like, these people hate each other more than anything. The cameras like zooming in. Yeah. If murder was legal, they would have done it by now. Like just crazy shit. Yeah, I think this is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I would be so mad if I was an Ohio State fan. I think it helps you in a sneaky little weird way where now you're avoiding playing Oregon and you're probably gonna get a home playoff game. Still just like, you have to beat that Michigan team, man. Washington did it, you could do it. I guess you can't do it. It was a terrible scene for college football
Starting point is 00:20:01 as I walked closer to my television to see it up close. I did also rewind on several of the videos. I actually I want to say in all seriousness the police should not be pepper spraying anyone like I don't believe that we have to say that but like everyone that's mad at the college football players involved in all these different flag planting things I'm sorry the people most at fault this weekend are the police officers pepper spraying college football players. Like that's freaking crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's insane. No one has had that like conversation. There was a point on the show earlier this week where I had to be like, by the way, this is the police's fault, right? Like the police pulled out the pepper spray and at the point they did it, it was late enough in the fight
Starting point is 00:20:42 where things had sort of slowed down. It was a very unnecessary use of pepper spray. And there were a million and ten flag planting incidents this weekend, a million and ten fights and pepper spray was not used in any of the other ones. No, it's absurd. That was the problem. That's the only serious thing I'll say on the subject. Yeah, obviously you don't want to see players getting fights and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:21:03 That stinks. But everyone wanted to see it. Like, you can't pretend like that, like the rivalry aspect. No one got hurt except for the police officers who actually hurt people. They took it. And Rose got hurt. Because of the police officers.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Because of the police officers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, I don't know, maybe that take is terrible. Maybe it'll age poorly. It's a great take. Anyways, yeah, it's just the noon game. The noon game slapped and it was so great. It's a great take. Anyways, yeah, it's just the noon game. The noon game slapped and it was so great. And I'm glad you got to be there to see a whole 23 points.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Look, speaking of 13 points, which Ohio State didn't reach, Iowa did. Cade McNamara entered the transfer portal. It's a portal season. I did not know that Cade McNamara entered the portal portal. It's a portal season. I did not know that Cade McNamara entered the portal until I opened up my dock to do prep for the show. And it was, Cade McNamara entered the portal. And if I said I was sad, that would be a lie. I would not be telling the truth if I said that.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Speaking of transfer quarterbacks, was this the best possible weekend ever for Kyle McCord? Oh yeah, great weekend for him. just to look back and be like losers. And he played last year, there was the late pick in that game against Michigan, but he played decently last year, he didn't struggle against Michigan. I think Will Howard played a lot worse this year than McCord did last year. Well, we're presented by Cheez-It. How about that, Lucy? This week we are feeling cheesed-it with Cheez-It and our little rivalry weekend recap is presented by Cheez-It. I can't wait for the Cheez-It Bowl. We're almost there. We're almost at bowl season. It's going to be so much fun. That's Syracuse Miami game. Honestly, I am so bummed I didn't get to watch
Starting point is 00:22:38 it live. I had a sort of split screen thing going on with that in Notre Dame USC, but as Notre Dame USC entered the third quarter, I said, sorry, Miami and Syracuse, whatever happens, I won't be able to watch this right now because I gotta focus in on my alma mater, which is trying to book its ticket to the playoff, which by the way, they don't have to book a ticket because they're probably gonna host a game. I had to book a ticket.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I will be going to that game. But Mario Cristobal, the decision at the end of the game to kick the field goal, what was your reaction to finding that out? So, yeah, we missed, we were able to watch part of the game. We were getting pepper spray out of Rose's eye for the first half, so that made things a little bit difficult.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Thanks, Rose. I'm not laughing at Rose, by the way. I'm laughing at Danny GQ saying that kicking the field goal made no effing sense. Sorry for outing your take, Danny GQ. I'm laughing at Rose. Miami, you fan. Go ahead, Lucy.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah, I was able to watch the end of the game to say, okay, we're gonna kick the field goal. We're gonna put the effort. We're gonna put our faith in our defense, which is just surrender to 21 point lead when we have potentially the best player in college football. We have a Heisman candidate in Cam Ward.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, I'm going to trust my defense in that situation. No, that's stupid. That was dumb. That was like such a like one, I don't blame the entire loss on that decision. You had a 21 point lead at Syracuse and you blew it and you're supposed to be a top 10 team in the country. I don't feel bad for you at all. Figure it out.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Don't do that. But to put your faith in the country. I don't feel bad for you at all. Figure it out. Don't do that. But to put your faith in the side of the ball that has consistently let you down the entire season, that has just collapsed internally throughout this game, and to not trust the one player who has gotten you into out of every awful situation your defense has put you in this entire season, it's just like, uh... Like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Why are you not using any of the context clues to help you? Yeah, I thought it was very silly when I found out about it. I kind of was like, oh, well, they're not going to make the playoff then. And then after 12 hours, I was like, maybe they are going to make the playoff. And then after 48 more hours, I was like, no, they're not going to make the playoff. We are officially recording this after the committee has put
Starting point is 00:24:42 out their rankings. And Miami, it does not appear that they are going to make it, Lucy, which I think you just sort of correctly said, yeah, you probably shouldn't make it after that happens. And I think I tend to agree with you, even though all the Miami fans are already mad at us for that. They were mad before we started talking. It really doesn't, it wasn't going to make a difference. The most fun sneaky game of the weekend,
Starting point is 00:25:06 Georgia Georgia Tech. It was awesome, until the end. And then I don't know about you, but like the ending made me mad, not because of the overtime format. I don't really mind the two point shootout because most games aren't gonna go to eight overtime. So like, we'll see it, what, like once every two years.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Like we saw it in that Illinois game that was epic for lack of a better term. It was awesome. We saw it in this one, but it doesn't happen that often. But it also doesn't happen, when it does happen, like it's because neither team can score from the two yard line, which is frustrating to watch. And then every time Kirby called the timeout,
Starting point is 00:25:40 I was like, I want to go to bed. Let me go to bed. Stop letting him call timeouts every time Georgia Tech lines up so that he can see what play they're about to run. I am furious. Your reaction when you said it's frustrating to watch teams so score from the two yard line, I was like, why would that be frustrating?
Starting point is 00:25:58 What do you mean? I guess we're just built a little different. Some of us have gone through more training in that, because that did happen to Iowa this weekend. Yeah, the Kirby Smart thing annoyed the shit out of me because just like, just back off. Just be chill. Just let it happen. Okay. Guess what? We're in the cheese and overtime rules now. Okay. There is no God. There is no plan. It's all out of your hands, Kirby. I think what irritates, the timeouts irritate me a lot, but I think as an equal level,
Starting point is 00:26:25 the walk back and forth, why are we doing that? Oh God, so funny. I mean, I get it. People are like, well, the field conditions and whatnot, where I'm like, doesn't matter that much. That's gonna make the game end faster if the field conditions are shittier. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:26:39 She's it was the big winner of the weekend. They were, sure. Because of that whole thing. Yeah, trying to explain I mean a lot of people were you know with their parents or family this weekend for Thanksgiving trying to explain the new overtime rules to my mom. I would like that time back. I would like to have it back. Also trying to explain it to Brent Key good luck he doesn't know he doesn't know what the rules are. No one knows what he doesn't need to. Judd Fish probably still doesn't know the rule. No one knows
Starting point is 00:27:04 what the rules are. I was pretty what the rules are. He doesn't need to. Judd Fish probably still doesn't know what the rules are. I was pretty frustrated watching that though, because I did think that Georgia Tech got away with a few pretty bad calls on regulation. And Georgia Tech, sorry, Georgia got away with a few bad calls. Georgia Tech gave up a huge lead and it just crumbled in their hands.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And I felt bad for them, but at the same time, I'm like, Brent Key, dial up one play. Dial up one play, score the two points, let me go to bed. And he couldn't do it. He couldn't do it, and he didn't know the rules. No, it was tough, but it was still a lot of fun. The whole time I was watching it, I thought, oh my God, I'm so grateful my favorite team
Starting point is 00:27:35 is not playing in this game right now. Oh my God, I could not be happier. I would be throwing up, just like when I saw the flag planting, which by the way, there was an attempted flag planting at Texas A&M didn't work. Sark said, get your butts in the locker room. I'm not here for that. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Good for you, Sark. That's good coaching. He should get like the opposite of a fine. They should pay him, the conference should pay him a bonus for that. They'll say, hey, we're going to ban horns down for one game. And now you're going to ban Horns Down for one game. And now you're cool. Well, hey, here's one. Here's one canister of trash. You throw it when you want.
Starting point is 00:28:13 No questions asked. Horns Down is what led us to this mess. But yeah, were you surprised at how big of a dud the Texas Texas A&M game was? I kind of thought there'd be like a little offense from Texas A&M, but no, it sputtered. It sputtered all the way to the end for them. I was not surprised. I think Texas was sort of in a weird situation where they just kind of got the benefit of
Starting point is 00:28:36 not having to play anybody but Georgia, and they lost to Georgia. But I never quite doubted how good Texas was. And I also think it's very like Texas and A&M haven't played since 2011. So it's been quite a long time, but these schools hate each other a lot. A&M hates Texas more than Texas hates A&M. I wanna make that very clear, but there's a lot of hatred between these two schools.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So I kind of expected, I think I expected A&M to play a little bit better, but I thought Texas was a lot better. I thought Texas was a lot more talented. I thought after blowing a dud to Auburn, I lost a lot of faith in ATM after that. This was an incredibly dominant performance by Texas. It just didn't really seem like that because ATM's defense was able to show up in certain situations and get points off the board, but like their offense didn't do shit.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Texas could very well be the best team in the country right now. And I have a pretty good feeling they'll beat Georgia this weekend. Ooh, you have them winning the rematch. I think that- I do. Texas A&M losing three of their last four really stings for what was up until that point, a really good first year for Mike Elko at Texas A&M. It still is. Yeah, I agree with you. Don't get me wrong. I think it just sort of like, if you lose the three games earlier in the season, it probably feels better finishing out strong versus like the, I think the Auburn loss was brutal for them, but they'll figure it out. Wigman's in the portal.
Starting point is 00:30:00 They've been dealing with that quarter. Lucy, is he going to go to Iowa? They've been dealing with that. He's listed it to go to Iowa. They've been dealing with that. He's listed it as one of his options. Well, let us know when you get the scoop. It's not happening. They've just been struggling on that side of the ball season. And unsurprisingly, their defense has been a lot better because Michael goes very good
Starting point is 00:30:16 at that kind of stuff. And I don't know. We'll see what happens next year. I think they'll be good again. I think they're a solid team. But Texas was just better. I think they'll be good again. I think they're a solid team, but Texas was just better. And now Texas will be playing for the coveted buy in the College Football playoffs.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Before we talk a little bit about conference championship weekend, that is, do you have any ranking reaction hot takes? We've been doing a lot of playoff talk this week on the Levitard Show. If you've already let it all out, that's fine. But if you got a take, let me hear it. I don't have a Miami related take. You're welcome, everybody for that. I do think that Alabama at 11 doesn't quite sit right with me. I kind of think that South Carolina is a little bit more deserving just considering the way the two teams have played as of late.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And South Carolina does have a blowout loss to Ole Miss. Alabama has a blowout loss to Oklahoma. Those are two very, very different football teams. One of those is like a, ah, damn, well, the other one was like, burn it all to the ground. We have to start from scratch. So I don't love Alabama at the 11th spot. I think it's not shocking to me that like, I hate to be like biases and the media machine or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't think it's that, but I do think that if the College Wall playoff had the opportunity to put Alabama in the playoff, they were gonna do it no matter what. And I don't like them at that 11th spot. I don't think that they deserve to be there. And I put it all on that Oklahoma loss, which was incredibly bad. LESLIE KENDRICK Yeah, I think the Oklahoma loss does suck a lot, but not as bad as a Kentucky
Starting point is 00:31:55 loss, which I think sort of disqualified Ole Miss, even though they also have a Georgia win. South Carolina, I think, has like a sort of legit gripe, except they lost to Alabama. So you can't put them in ahead of Alabama. But Clemson does win the ACC championship game. South Carolina is gonna be like, what the hell guys? We were the hottest team at the end of the season. Our quarterback, Lenora Sellers is electric. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He had a crazy fourth quarter against Clemson. Everyone wants to see this in the playoff, right? Well, wrong. The committee doesn't, but that's kind of what it's gonna come down to for them. And I think that that stinks too. Yeah, it's just tough because like, I you know, we all sort of believe in the transitive property of college football in the sense of like, okay, well, you beat them and they're better than you. But I look at teams like South Carolina, who are so completely different now than they were in September when they played Alabama and Alabama, who's gotten significantly worse. It's just tough because like, I genuinely believe that if South Carolina and Alabama played right now that game would play out differently and it also wasn't the type of loss where like Alabama beat the shit out of South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:32:52 South Carolina had it till the very end of that game. Like it was just a drive that didn't end the way they wanted it to. And so I would put South Carolina in above Bama and Ole Miss. And you know Sellers was hurt earlier this season. Exactly. No, and like my whole thing is like, teams change so much throughout the course of a season and games change so much.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And you're, you know, like Florida, starting off, I hate to bring in Miami and Florida, that was an astounding. If Miami and Florida played right now, that game would go incredibly differently Florida is a much improved team. The defense has gotten better DJ Lagway has gotten better That's a different team than week one. All of these teams are different than week one. So it's just hard and whatever Well, I would say Iowa wasn't even close. It doesn't matter Notre Dame's the same as week one, but they're different than week two
Starting point is 00:33:41 But then they're the same as weeks three through 14 Taylor said this in my ear, but's true he's absolutely right. Indiana the big winner of this past weekend. Indiana you got 11 wins. Actually you know same with Notre Dame you got 11 wins. Guess who doesn't have 11 wins? Most of the rest of college football. That was the threshold for Miami. Just win 11 games and you're in the conference championship and even if you lose it doesn't matter. The committee has said we're not gonna punish teams for losing. And that's what the rankings are.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. Do the conference championship game, do they count or do they not count? Like, does losing the game count? Does winning the game make the teams that beat you that season better than you think they are now? Are they part of the season? Are they not part of the season?
Starting point is 00:34:21 What is the point of them? I don't know. My team's not in a conference. I don't understand conferences. Maybe we should just get rid of the conference championship them? I don't know. My team's not in a conference. I don't understand conferences. Maybe we should just get rid of the conference championship game. I don't need it. Do you need it? I like the Dr. Pepper challenge.
Starting point is 00:34:30 That's all I like about it. I miss legends and leaders. Bring back fun, weird divisions. And then you got me back for college for conference championship games. But like if it doesn't, but it means something. It means something because then you get a buy. But it also, oh shit, Oregon now loses to Penn State, which I don't think is gonna happen. But great, now you no longer have a buy even though you're the best team in
Starting point is 00:34:51 college football all year. Doesn't make any sense, everything. And also, the way the bracket would play out, if Oregon does win, they get a buy, but they get the winner of the Ohio State Regional or whatever. That doesn't seem fair. I've seen like a bunch of college football fans argue about like who should be the five seed, who should be the six seed.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I'm like, you don't know what seed you want to be. Like, you know you want to host a game if you're in the first round, but you could be the five seed and play Alabama or you could be the eight seed and play like Boise or something like probably not Boise. Cause if they win, I think they're probably going to get a buy based on where they've been right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But you know what I mean? You could get Indiana Indiana for example. Yeah, a lot of a lot of things still need to play out for that But yeah, I Lucy while we're while we're being haters Let's just do a quick dance little hee-hee-hee ha ha ha because once again Miami has not won the ACC SMU has the shot to win it in their first year in the ACC, which I find so fun. Danny GQ, I'm sorry. This is not personal, but man, I find that kind of hilarious. This was their best shot. They have Cam Frickin Ward.
Starting point is 00:35:54 They were really good this year. They didn't play SMU or Clemson, and they didn't make it in. But you know what? I'll have a shirt to remember this Miami season forever, because one of the CalGarhythm friends that I made this season, he sent me this shirt, Lucy, from the Cal Miami game. The best game of the year in my opinion. The game that I stayed up way past my bedtime to watch where Miami did come back and win,
Starting point is 00:36:18 but Cal, they put up a fight. It was so much fun. It was one of the best games of the year. It was so great. I can't wait to wear this shirt every night forever. Oh, that's so sick. Thank you, Chris Hadaway from the CalGarithm. All right, before we go, Conference Championship weekend. We've got so many big games. We've got Boise State and UNLV. Great rematch. UNLV's got a real shot at winning and making the playoff. We've got Tulane and Army.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Army and Tulane. I mean, Army being the ranked American Conference Champion. Should they be in the playoff, Lucy? I don't know. We've got your favorite team, Iowa State. By the way, this is all Iowa's fault for letting Iowa State into this game. What?
Starting point is 00:37:01 We didn't do shit. I know, it's not a conference game. And the person who did shit, he's gone now. See you later, brother. Get a job. We both think ASU is going to win, right? No. Oh, okay. I don't feel that Arizona State's best receiver is out.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I do think Arizona State's going to win, but I actually think this is going to be a pretty competitive game. They're ranked, what, 15, 16, so it's the closest ranked matchup between the two. I don't, I'm not confident. I'm not confident either. It's a big 12 game. Anyone can win. Kansas might win this game. I don't know. If Kansas State or Kansas or like Colorado showed up and won, I don't think anyone would say anything. We'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. This league is ridiculous. You picked Texas to beat Georgia. I feel pretty confident in that too. I'm going to take Georgia.
Starting point is 00:37:53 The way, like we kind of talked about a little bit, the way Carson Beck played against Texas. Yeah, he hasn't played like that since. Carson Beck has been bad for the last few months. I think he sort of fixed the turnover itch a little bit more than he, you know, it was really bad a few weeks ago. He kind of fixed it against Tennessee. Carson back is turning the wrong way. And I think Texas is turning the right way. Also figure out how you want to use Arch Manning. Figure out what your whole dealio there is. But I think that Texas is going to win. I think losing a game like that is sort of a wake up call. I think Texas has only gotten better since and I don't necessarily think Georgia has gotten better since. Texas also gotten a little bit more banged up since so I'll put that out there but I
Starting point is 00:38:33 don't know. I could see it going either way. It's gonna be a great weekend. I think we both have Oregon. I think SMU could beat Clemson. I think everyone's assuming Clemson's gonna win. I wouldn't assume that. Clemson's looked bad. Oh I was not assuming that at all. Every good team they've played. Clemson winning gonna win. I wouldn't assume that. Clemson's looked bad. I was not assuming that at all. Every good team they've played. Clemson winning is funny, but I don't want it. Orange Britches game. I think they wear orange pants for championships. So yeah, good stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Dabo making it into the playoff and getting a bye after the season Clemson has had would be, man, everyone would wanna cancel the 12 team playoff by next year. Except for Clemson fans, obviously. Yeah, I think he even said he's like, we could be the first three lost national championship. Shut your mouth.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Hush. He's so funny. Oh, but also the worst. Oh my God, what a weekend. This is one of the best rivalry weekends of all time ever. I'm 100% saying that because Notre Dame won by like two touchdowns and two pick sixes back to back against USC. But I'm also saying it because of Ohio State, Michigan, and all the chaos and the flag planting and man, this is me clutching my pearls.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Don't do it again guys. It was so terrible. Iowa had five first downs of one. That's why I'm saying it. Oh, so good. That's real football. This is real football and this is Jen CFP. We'll see you next week to recap conference championship weekend. And hey, Lucy, I think the footy awards are coming up soon. Oh my God. I hope all you Jennifers have a great weekend at conference championship. Then I'll see you in Indy. Go Bears. Howdy folks. It's Mike. And guess what? It's Miller Time. A holiday season brings around
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