The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Crowned Amazing Next Quarterbacks

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

We have some house cleaning to do off the top including what is happening with Subway, naming 20 actors more famous than Ben Affleck and defining gunslingers. Tony has his list of NFL games he's keeping an eye on and Dan continues his embargo on the gunslinger list. We found the video of Stephen A. accusing Dan of being in cahoots with the Dolphins and Dan responds. Plus, the show wants the full footage of Chris Cote awkwardly sitting next to Tua, Against the Spread, Kirk Cousins' musical choices and FINALLY the long-awaited list of gunslingers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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being able to verify that on the entirety of the internet. It turns out that there are an alarming number of franchises closing and there was an emergency meeting that Subway is saying is not an emergency meeting last week because of the number of franchises that are closing at an alarming rate. That was according to the New York Post though. I would have told you off the top of my head.

I've seen nobody at a subway in three years. Listen, as long as you get us Caleb Williams radio row week, we're fine. Also housekeeping on this, do we have 20 actors better or more famous movie acting men than Ben Affleck this century? Were you able to find 20 of them? I found like 50. I don't know if you want me able to find 20 of them? I found like 50. I don't know if you want me to.

Wow. I mean, I found a lot. Like, I think if you win an Academy Award for best male actor, you're automatically on the list, right? Yes. In the last 24 years. So you guys would argue, because I'd argue

that Paul Giamatti doesn't get to be as famous an actor as Ben Affleck by virtue of Ben Affleck's dating resume, which doesn't have anything to do. It just has to do with fame. Fame is a better, different though. Well, this is where it gets a little dicey, because if you just wanna go by movie stars, not television and film stars,

then the list gets a little bit more narrow. Like someone like Bryan Cranston probably isn't on it, although he has been in a bigger cultural event acting. Ben Affleck. And he's been nominated for an Academy Award. He has, but he hasn't won one. Well, was Batman not a cultural event when Ben Affleck played Batman?

For all the wrong reasons. Yeah. It was ass. Okay, because it was an ass-backed Batman, okay. So Ben Affleck, The Town, Argo, Gone Girl, and Air. That's a good run, man. Those are bangers. Probably his best four films of 2020, 2000 onward. The odds.

Can I make a pushback on one thing? Argo, he's more known as being the director than his acting job that he did in the movie. That's fair. I think they're also adding some nuance there. That was Oscar nominated, was it not? It was. The movie was. There he was.

Did it win an Oscar? Argo? Argo, f*** yourself. Exactly. There's a moment where the Iranian people, the police are trying to get him and he's about to walk in. Like that's tense moment right there.

Yeah. Okay, so then you have someone like Daniel Day Lewis, who I feel like he retired from acting. To become a cobbler for a while. Even 10 years ago, but he has to be on this list because he is one of our greatest actors of all time, even though he may have fewer recognizable titles just in the last 20 years.

You know what, Jessica? Of course Daniel Day-Lewis is a better actor, a better thespian. He's not a bigger movie star than Ben Affleck. I think he is. I think if he announced he was gonna be in a movie that comes out next year, I think that would be a pretty big effing deal

versus if Ben Affleck did, it would be a medium effing deal. You know how we know it'd be a medium effing deal because he was in a movie with Jennifer Lopez that nobody saw. Wait, is this, what is this list? Best actors or most famous actors? That's what we're talking about right now. The biggest movie stars. I said biggest movie stars. 20 best movie stars. Oh, The Rock, what is this list? Best actors or most famous actors? What do you want? What are you talking about right now?

I said biggest movie stars. I think it's the best, 20 best movie stars. Oh, The Rock, Vin Diesel, I mean Ben Affleck's not even gonna sniff this list. Get the hell out of here. Vin Diesel's real name? Marc Sinclair. Yeah.

Huh. Well Billy, I think you're proving my point now. It's that there's a lot of- Mark Wahlberg. A lot of actors on this list. Mark Wahlberg actually wasn't on my list, but I had Denzel Washington Brad Pitt Leonardo DiCaprio

Robert De Niro Paul Giamatti with an asterix maybe so you know maybe he's Oli Matthew McConaughey Matt Damon Tom Hanks Sam Jackson is McConaughey a big I think Not only is he won Academy Award Award but he's he's wildly popular Okay, but I think of them as similar names though I think if I were to say to you if I were to say to you who's more famous McConaughey or Affleck like it's more famous though. But that's what movie stardom is! That's not the only criteria. That's why I was trying to explain the criteria before I started giving you the list.

Chris Pratt. We'll get back to your list in a second. Do you know the list that you want? Because I know the one I want, it's gunslingers. I mean... Not gonna do that. Thank you though. I really appreciate it. I appreciate that you guys wanted to get it back to gunslingers, but not right now.

Not on my watch. Tony thinks Aaron Rodgers is a gunslinger. Absolutely. He's a gunslinger guy. Sorry to tell you. You got to throw more interceptions than that. If you're going to be a gunslinger, I knew I could get Dan. It's got to be more than five interceptions a season.

Well, hold on a second. If he's reckless this year, is it a regression or is it he's a gun slinger? Can you regress into being a gun slinger? He's just an old guy who the gun doesn't work the same in the holster as it used to. I don't know. He's not as quick on the draw as it used to be. Good argument by Tony, though. You can't argue that. I mean, we don't want to get to Tony though You can't argue that we don't want to get to the list and just was I don't want to get doesn't want to get to

It because I would have more to say if we don't want to get to it So if I say I don't know I don't want to get to the list We won't get to it But if we did who might be you know why I don't want to get to the list because I'd prefer to get to Tony's Top five NFL games regular season games. He's keeping an eye on Possibly a better list by the way, I'm not gonna say it's a hundred percent better list But it's possibly better list but gunslingers after that. No, no, thank you number five Tony Well, we have eight Ola's Dan. Oh for the love of God eight

number one Ola Rogers going back to San Francisco like Area kid going back to San Francisco early one one that's Monday Night Football 9-4. September 4th. That's week one? 9-9 excuse me. Yeah week one. Yeah week one. Very exciting.

He'll probably be there. I am not doing this for 13 of these. Speed it up. Okay. Kansas City at San Francisco. Hmm. Chris? Hey!

Like it. Texans versus Cowboys on Monday Night Football circle for the Lone Star State cheese versus bills Bangle versus cheese the chiefs 49ers Dolphins One that's under radar because people don't think about the the Eagles as highly as they have the last couple years Eagles Bengals Number one, OLI Falcons Vikings, her cousins going back to the soda.

That's week 14. They cheer for him. It might be both teams fighting for a wild card spot. Both teams might be fighting for a wild card spot. Thank you. Number five. If Darnal has a season though, it means two gods were talking about a possibility for the Vikings. What if they trade for the back of whoever's not starting Wilson or fields, Wilson and fields? What if Pennex is the quarterback? Oh, cousins goes back. Oh wow. Back to back to mini number five bears Texans CJ Stroud.

The next young quarterback Caleb was coming at Caleb Williams. Excuse me coming in as the the crowned amazing next quarterback. That one's going to be fun. Wow. Yes. He is a crowned amazing. What week is that? That's how good for before game one.

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Number one. Number one. Number one. 49ers metric stick game. Number one. AFC Championship Game Rematch. First game of the year. MVP versus the Super Bowl MVP.

Excellent. Games to watch. We should keep an eye on them, Dan. All of them. Thank you, Tony. I appreciate it. 13 games you're keeping an eye on. Stu gots ready for God bless football.

It's about to be a poor long season for Billy Gill. Are you guys, any of you bothered by the fact that NFL Films has embargoed the audio from Travis Kelce bumping into Andy Reid? And there's audio out there somewhere that would tell you exactly what it is that Travis Kelce said. The Travis Kelce economy is a substantive one. You might not like how he talks to his coach. Now he's a lot more famous and powerful than his coach. And are you surprised at all that it's been embargoed

and no one's heard that sound? I can tell you exactly what he said. Give me the effing ball. Right. Pretty easy. And he was right. If only we had an inside man in the NFL that could get us that sound. If only we had somebody that could get on the inside.

If only we had an inside man. The inside job, just stop listening to the show. I mean, it's done so well today. I'm going to tell you exactly, you want to pull back the curtain because you said Travis Kelsey. And I talked to you about a Travis Kelsey topic in the break, so I was like, let me get my Travis Kelsey. Just get out of here.

Just get out of here again. Five minutes. Minor penalty out of here and Ken. 5 minutes. Minor penalty, 2 minutes asshole. That asshole is a little harsh. Also, NFL films, completely different division. I don't know anything that goes on over there. You also have to be a double agent to spy on the NFL to us and you're not. I'm not.

I don't smit. Single agent. In the NFL, there is no margin for error. One mistake can change the whole game. You have to be a double agent to spy on the NFL to us and you're not. I'm not. I don't smit. Single agent.

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No. No. Oh, f*** you. No. No. I'm not allowing it. Give him a chance, guys. No. No. No. No. I'm not giving him a chance. I'm giving him 20 years. I'm giving him my prize. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stoogats. What have we found out in housekeeping on Stephen A. Smith and what it is that he alleged on first take please? Look at Tua. in housekeeping on Stephen A Smith and what it is that he alleged on first take, please.

Look at Tua. I don't think it's an accident that Tua said what he said when he said it. I don't think it's an accident that Dan Lebertard asked him when he asked him. Dan Lebertard does this show in Miami. Dan Lebertard lives in Miami. Dan Lebertard in Miami all day, every day, all the time. And now is when you

ask that question? There ain't no damn accident. I'm saying to you, you Brian Flores, you see through all of that, because he's a smart man. You see through all of that. I don't think it's an accident that it happened. And I could be wrong. I don't know. I'm speculating, openly admit that. I'm just watching it because as a scribe, as a reporter, long before I became a put in, I've been in this business for 30 years now, I've seen it and I know most of the time, again, you connect dots.

And if you're Miami and you're the NFL, even though Molly is absolutely right, both things can be true. When you got a case pending against you, you're looking for an advantage to what provided it. Brian Flores didn't knock it down. I'm saying that's the reality. What comes of it, I have no idea, but that is the reality.

He's on to us. So you're doing their legal bidding now too, Dan. idea but that is the reality is all the ones uh... so you're doing their legal bidding that's a good what what i really appreciate is the amount of credit that he's giving us as masterminds when he says it's not a coincidence on the timing and he's right about this should have been a week earlier metal art media acted very quickly and instead it got out like five days after we did it because we got it out when we got it out because everybody was rushing back to the facility to cut tape. We sat on that for a

while you're right. Wasn't that a follow-up question by the way? It was the last question that I was asking. Yeah but he had said something I was there with you he said something earlier and you brought it back and I was proud of you because you had to bring it back because too it was talking about the differences between being positive every day. It is not strategically placed timing. We got it out with Chris Cody in shorts. There was nothing strategic. This was all part of my plan.

Or in cahoots. As soon as I took over I was like, all right, we're gonna do this a week before the season starts, we got this. We did, we planned with the Dolphins, with Gadel, we called him personally, listen, Chris Cody's gonna sit in short shorts right next to him in the middle and then we're gonna release it five days later.

He let his guard down, I mean, Chris clearly made him comfortable. Why are you playing with the stringing shorts? I don't know why they have this still shot. That's a strange meme. It's just unnecessary shorts. I watch the videos so good. I don't know what to do with the strings sometimes.

It doesn't look sloppy if they're not tied. Are you? But then if they are tied, you have to untie them every time you go pee-pee. I hate all of this. Take this off the screen. No good bad publicity. That's the way.

Exactly. Dan, I was watching this video on YouTube, and I was like, man, they did my boy dirty, putting him in the middle. They did. then having him like kind of stare in between cameras It looked like he wasn't paying attention for a while He was looking at the camera. Oh, it's because I assume you're gonna do or like going they're just on tool I don't assume they're gonna cut to the three shot of me awkwardly sitting there You playing with the strings on your shorts on the outside as if it were a bathing suit.

You gotta know not to go to Chris there though. I enjoy the idea that somebody would think that Chris Cody in the middle seat of a couch is a mastermind strategic strike of an NFL lawsuit on racism. I appreciate getting that much credit for Chris Cody's executive producing. Where do you go from here, Dan? Is this like a thing where you text even in and you're like, hey, that's not true? Or do you just, I don't know, what do you do?

Aren't you guys friends? It makes us seem way cooler than we actually are. Let's just let this live. I wouldn't call that cool. It would be pretty shitty. We're involved with like NFL and like this. An inside job is not cool. We're in cahoots.

What are you kidding me? An inside job to discredit a guy accusing the league of racism? Yeah, that wouldn't be very cool, Stu Gatz. Jessica, do you remember when Roger Goodell walked up to Juju in Germany and dapped him up? And everyone was like, how does Juju know Roger Goodell? You're welcome, Juju.

I just got in my headset. They're saying we should re-release the two interview with just the shot of me the entire time. That's a great idea. You all can go bleep yourself. Yes, yes. A one shot. Please, do we have?

Please, no. Do we have like the ISO footage of just Cody? We could do the Chris Cody cut? I like that idea. I also have been asking for a remix of all the words he stumbled on nervously during all of the Dolphin interviews. I want it to be a musical cut.

Also in cahoots with the NFL, two of his people and Gadel on that as well. He's just a man, Dan. He is, he's but a man. If he's playing with his strings the entire time, we should be able to see that. Did you use them like a guitar? I don't know what I was doing.

I was uncomfortable. I'm like, I'm in the middle. Why am I in the middle? Stugat should be in the middle and they're like, oh, he'll look so small there. You should be the... How'd it work out? Didn't you ask for the air guitar at one point? Well, that was just... That's just a couple guys talking guitars.

When you talk guitars, you talk air guitar. Before we go any further here in the show, I did want to stop for a second to congratulate somebody I've admired in this business for a long time. Oh, thanks, Dan. It is most certainly not you. I mean, what I have seen Ariel Helwani do emerge from that sewer with credibility when that carnival

barking skinhead is trying to always take away his power and doesn't care at all for journalism to see Ariel Hawani come out of all of that with more credibility than any of the participants and now start his own vertical with Yahoo because he's realized like a lot of a bunch of people have realized that you can start your own thing and bring all of your people with you like I could not have more admiration for what that beast has done with his platform because he really created something out of nothing the the sport in general climbed from the sewer to become a credible thing that people

embrace and Ariel Hawani is the most credible journalist in the entirety of the sports history and continues to grow and the way that he did it people cannot possibly understand the degree of difficulty when you've got the most powerful man in the organization actively trying to chase you out of places but your information and your credibility is too good because Dana White doesn't have any respect for the idea that his information can be journalistically covered. He wants to control all of the power in that situation.

So he has been unspeakably foul to Helwani over the years trying to derail his career and has failed. Failed to do it. Against his wishes, something emerged from all of that garbage to be more credible than all of that garbage. And I just couldn't be happier for him as somebody who created his own thing and continues to dominate what is a really democratic space now and gets to go out on his own and build his own empire with Yahoo funding his entire Empire of people because he's gonna make jobs for other people when when you talk about a real

He's a pillar of the MMA community I think he's I think 1a when you talk about Journalistically for the MMA community like it's him right and for him to do all things as a personal friend I've worked with him when I was at ESPN I was one of the producers there when he first originally got to ESPN so for him to work at ESPN with Spotify with Vox with all these different places that he's done and now create his own thing I know he's he circled off a lot of different boxes checked off a lot of different boxes career-wise he's just an

amazing dude That's right, it's time for Against the Spree! And it is sponsored by our lovers at DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Tony, what do you got? Before we go on, who's 1B? 1B, I would probably say the boys at Morning Combat.

Here as part of all the smoke collection. I thought you were gonna say Tony was. No, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. MMA Hangout is soaring right now. You can go check out. Yeah, it is soaring right now. But let's get to

One can hope We'll get there. We'll get there. Uh We've got NFL action tomorrow preseason was a week three of the preseason already. We're right there and we're on the doorstep boys Cincinnati Bengals Jake Browning and them boys Okay at home against the Colts Cincinnati Bengals plus six and a half point dogs. I'm gonna take them at home It's gonna be a closer game. There's gonna be a lot of backups playing. I think Jake Browning and them boys Preseason football is dangerous to me. It is it's very dangerous. That's why I'm gonna go with the points That's what I'm going with the points here

Jake again Jake Browning and. Billy, who you got? I'm gonna take Georgia Tech plus five and a half. Yeah! Kickoff. This is their first of two week one games, as Greg Cody reported last week for Florida State. I feel like Georgia Tech's gonna have the upper hand on this one. I don't know if they're gonna win.

There's a lot of turnover there at Florida State. 10 and a half points is a big spread. I'm gonna take Georgia Tech plus 10 and a half. Against the spread. Which is gonna shock the world, Billy. A mean alma mater for a mean Georgia Tech. He has not been this. The rambling wreck.

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Don Lebatard Teammates can't shoot from three Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy Now he's just, just playin' Nickelback in the locker room and Stugats They'll play D and shoot threes As they chase the Nats for the sixth seed These five words in his head, scream are we winning games yet? This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats Can we get please, before we go any further into some of the music choices that Kirk Cousins

is making? You thought I was going to go gunslingers there? I thought so too. I am not. I am not going. I have not promised. I am not going to gunslingers. I'll fly back to Dave.

Nope. I will not do gunslingers today. Do housekeeping I mean. Yes. Not that one though. Not interested in doing that one. How do we feel about the playlist here of Kirk Cousins, the practice playlist? Because Jessica was saying that she would buy the playlist from the DNC last night. I wouldn't buy it, but I would download it on Apple Music and listen to it perhaps. There's

some bangers in there. For the audio audience that isn't able to see the list of songs that Kurt Cousin played at practice, I will just play. ["Wild Eyes"] ["Wild, wild, wild, wild, wild"] I'm looking at Mr. Brightside by The Killers, All the Small Things by Blink 182.

What else we got here? We got- Any OAR? Let me help you here, okay. ["Wild Eyes"] ["Wild, wild, wild, wild, wild"] What else we got here? We got- Let me help you here, okay. What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? Now Chris, to further solidify what you just said and then what you just played, atlantafalcons.com actually wrote up about on their site, the official Atlanta Falcons site, about this playlist, and in it they quoted internet reaction to it and the

first tweet they have is from Jeremy Chandler Tache. Oh no I am Kirk Cousins fallout boy. W-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w- They played that song as the first I've ever heard that song Goosebumps. Oh man maroon 5 this love This is a Kendall tool peloton right if I've ever seen Stacey's mom is a banger she's got it going on These are all really old. This is like 2006 like billboard top 100. It's not even recent, Followboy. It's Sugar We're Going Down. That's like their second album. The anthem, Good Charlotte, oh, classic. Mr. Brightson. White guys, what what what what what white.

I can't believe you neglected to mention Stereo Hearts by Jim Cloud's Heroes. My heart's a stereo, it beats for you and them, them, them. They should have done this. White guys. Wa wa wa wa wa. They should have done this the way Roy does Roy's Top 10. And like there should have been one just like.

A shocking number one. You guys ever think the Gym Class Heroes guy looked like Joe Kim Noah? NWA. NWA. NWA. White guys. Wa wa wa wa wa.A. White guys! W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W- For all of you who were thinking, how does Gardner Minshew work out? Does he work out to Creed? Of course he works out to Creed.

Does he work out shirtless? Of course he does. Is he wearing a carpet made out of chest hair on his torso? Yes. Should he play an NFL game holding a Miller Lite and shirtless and with a hairy, hairy torso? Let's see Gardner M Minshew working out to Creed. He's just shirtless in a field.

Sweaty. Now he's in a gym. All of the chest hair is matted and wet from the amount of work that he's doing. It is maximum mullet. I like how the t-shirt is just there in principle. The sleeves are ripped off, the mid-riff is ripped off, it's just tatters on him. But it serves the purpose of no shirt, no shoes, no service. Surprise there was no Creed on Kirk Cousins' list.

That is a bit of a surprise. Tony, I do have a question for you about the gunslinger list. So we define gunslinger as deep ball threat, right? Like they're chucking it up far. To me a lot of interceptions, doesn't care about interceptions. They take chances.

So I looked up the leaders last year for deep passing on PFF, and I'm not gonna lie, the first one surprised me, and I wonder if it's on your list. Hmm. Probably not. See, I'm not doing deep with gunslingers. Or this list, it's not gonna be deep. I'm going reckless. You're reckless,

you take chances, and sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't. My word association with a gunslinger is reckless. Yeah. Are these good? Number five. But, define being reckless. Yeah.

Reckless would be like, Josh Allen. Throwing it really far and it's an interception, right? But is this list like talent wise, like these are top five or these are top five gunslingers? I got it, being good quarterbacks or good gunslingers? Both. Jess, it's Brett Favre thinking he could squeeze a ball in when he can't, so he tries it anyway. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, but it's not like a five yard out. Like it's Brett far thinking he could squeeze a ball in when he can't so he tries it anyway

Ryan Fitzpatrick like a five yard out like it's it's Ryan Fitzpatrick being like that safety ain't making this play I'm still throwing it right. James needs to be on this list. He's not gonna be that's right now to me He's a gunslinger. He's reckless. He led the league in like touchdowns and interceptions in the same 30 30 year. Yeah So we're clear on what this list is. 30-30, man. Jameis Winston on a seven and nine football team through 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions, Tom Brady came in, eliminated the interceptions, they immediately

won the Super Bowl. Yep. That's what a gunslinger is. Well, Gronk came too. Favre is the only one who's allowed to win a championship and be a gunslinger We just saw you're not champion we just saw a dude throw a pass behind his back you don't think that My homes is not a gunslinger. It's kind of like Good Gunslinger behavior? My homes is not a gunslinger. It's kind of like the all-button list. He's too good. He's too good to be a gunslinger. He's got some traits.

He has moments where that's what a gunslinger looks like. You guys keep fixing good and bad. The gunslinger's a gunslinger. Some of them are good, some of them are bad, but you just sling guns, that's what you do. Right, like Baker Mayfield's a gunslinger. Gunslinger. Gunslinger.

To clear things up, Jameis did not lead the league in touchdowns, he led the league in passing yards and interceptions that year. Thank you you Billy. It's important that we have accuracy during this gunslinger conversation. The gunslinger himself does not have to have accuracy though. No.

So where are we, OLI? OLI, James Winston. You just. Me and Jess were talking about it before, I just didn't write it down. Ben Roethlisberger is a gunslinger, you know? He's too mobile. Really?

Yeah, I need a gunslinger who's statuesque in the pocket. What do you mean? He runs like a skyscraper. No, I know, but it's different though. He was surprisingly free to foot. He would get out of tackles. That was like his whole thing. Like you couldn't tackle the guy, but he also was he was like the king of the pump fake and then the long ball semi reckless at times. Number five, Philip Rivers. I thought a Gunslinger other than Favre couldn't win a championship, but you're telling me Rothlessberger's a gunslinger.

That's what you're telling me. Yes. I'd give him half a gunslinger. You put him on your list of gunslingers. No, I didn't. I said Philip Rivers. That's number five. Philip Rivers, another guy,

not win a championship, but a gunslinger. I don't like this championship kind of- I agree. Dan said it. I'm just going with it. I'm of the belief that if you're a gunslinger, that can't win the ultimate trophy. It's part of being a gunslinger.

I don't think any of us have the same definition for gunslinger. That's why I was trying to get the criteria right. Yeah, I'm with you. We need to slow down here. So this is interesting. Early John Elway, gunslinger, late John Elway handed the ball off to Darrell Davis.

I mean- Won a championship. One, two. As soon as he stopped being, he was a retired gunslinger, and then he was allowed to Terrell Davis. I mean. Won a championship. One, two. As soon as he stopped, he was a retired gunslinger and then he was allowed to win a championship. Soon as he stopped slinging guns. That's right.

That's when he started winning. That's right. He doesn't burst through the saloon doors and shoot everybody. He just hands it to Terrell Davis and he gently opens the saloon doors and then Elway sits down and has a sarsaparilla. Ben Rathasberg is Peruvian?

He was born in Lima Number four for controversial Aaron Rodgers Rogers is a gunslinger one of the best quarterbacks of all time gunslinger Bad Chris right far was a gunslinger. You can't be a gunslinger and have five interceptions in a Mentality though. He's putting the ball where he shouldn't The balls there, you know, sometimes you sling the gun and the gun just happens to be a dud like look man. It's fire Yeah, that's not look the intention was to gunsling. It's not about the results. I'll play the results Dan Look video, please put in the corner Gardner women shoes's workout sweaty and torsoey. Number three. Bref Harv. Ultimate. Two better? The gunslinger. Two better than the OG. Two better though.

Does a gunslinger throw a gun? Because you shouldn't do that. He slings a gun. No not a gun thrower. He neither throws nor slings the gun. He just treats the gun and has such facility with the gun that it's as if he's operating a sling. He's got his total control over the shooting tendency. I know it's a sling. Now Billy, if throwing is what you're looking for, Flamethrower, that's a different list.

Yeah, that's a different list. Number two, Matthew Stafford. Won a Super Bowl. Also won a Super Bowl. Is he gunslinger? He's a gunslinger, guys. I would say, you know what? Arm angle. You know what I would say?

He actually is a gunslinger, because he had no business winning that Super Bowl. That pass in Tampa Bay late in the game should have been picked off. Well, he also had a no-look pass in the Super Bowl, which is a very gunslinging tendency. But this is what I would argue. I'd argue that Stafford when he was in Detroit gunslinger got to the Rams won a championship put down the guns

we'll see this season number one number one damnarino never won it a lot of interceptions a lot of gunsling though though You gotta have maximum too much confidence in your arm too much exactly that's that's a part of the criteria It's like I'm gonna fit this ball where nobody else can fit it. I like that going back to Stafford I like the idea Dan has that's Matthew Stafford showed up from Detroit. He's got all his guns and McVeigh was like whoa You gotta put him away Then he starts to like unload them out on the table right there before he walks in the camp.

He walks in gunless, and that's how he became a Super Bowl champion. But then he finds one more. He had so many guns that there's one more in his pocket that he forgot about. It was in his boot. It was like Butch Davis, he thought he got all of them. He knew he didn't get half of them.

All of a sudden, Tampa Bay, wham, all of a sudden, Cooper comes open. Let me look at it that way. Tony. Yes. CJ Stroud? Too early. Early, but gunslinger tendencies.

Yes, no doubt. If you really look at him very tough. He's squint. No, it's not a squint situation. It's like really locking in on him. Correct. It's like, oh, wow, he fit that ball well. Same with Caleb.

He had 1,200 passing yards over twenty or more yards last year who were the least time for years though leon rogers is on my head he doesn't throw any interceptions but i i'm willing to to are cosine what tony is saying here on this front this is what happened with stafford i wish nfl video would release this video the way they haven't released the travis kelsey pushing over a dot or engineering the super bowl he gets from detroit to los angeles

he gets into mcveigh's office and he puts twelve guns on the table is like here you got all my gunslinger not into this anymore and then he reaches down and he realizes he still got one in the ankle strap are all for he didn't realize that he's got a small gun in the ankle strap, and that was the no look pass in the Super Bowl, not even McVeigh wants that. McVeigh's not calling a no look pass in the Super Bowl to come.

They got one receiver, all seven guys are covering him, and he's like, no, I'm gonna no look it here. You know why? Because I've got something in the ankle strap, and I forgot about it. I've lived with it so long in my life that I forgot that this was even waiting down my ankle. Who's the anti-gunslinger?

Alex Smith. Again, Aaron Rodgers. Is Tua in that conversation? He had a lot of interceptions last year. He does make some reckless throws, but he's super accurate. Can you ask Dan, do they want you to ask? The interceptions thing is...

Again, I think you guys are playing the results too much. You start talking about interceptions and Super Bowls. Who wants to talk about that? It's all about the tendencies. It's the style of tendencies play the style of play But if you want the anti gunslinger Trent Dilford Aaron Rodgers at a four-year period where he threw 15 Interceptions you cannot be a gunslinger unless there are Interceptions like there is no such thing as a gun gunslinger in the pros without interception were he threw

Interceptions it's not like he threw zero. But even if he threw zero, what if he was just a really, really, really lucky gunslinger? The best of the gunslingers. Yeah, like what? I mean, you're just confusing things. Best of the West. Stop. Would Aaron Rodgers call himself a gunslinger?

I saw that the one fact that Twitter did correct over the last months of misinformation is that it is not true that Patrick Mahomes has had 53 interceptions called back by penalty the second The second leader in the NFL is Josh Allen with seven people were throwing that around as if it was an accurate stat It is not an accurate stat seems like a lot. It does seem like a lot But 54 52 is it wasn't precisely accurate, it was around there though, ballpark. The thing that you guys are neglecting

that is simply wrong is you cannot be a gunslinger unless you throw interceptions. It's not, it's like having- It's part of the job, you're right. It's like you're telling me somebody's a gunslinger and they don't have a gun. The interceptions are as important as the gun in the gunslinger. The point is you're taking chances when you probably shouldn't take chances and occasionally

it's not gonna work out. My holster is on the top of that list. He throws balls behind his back he's falling down he throws crazy balls. And a Kaderius Tony. Yeah and also sometimes you don't have guns but you just use your fingers. You're like, ah I'm still a gunslinger. Sometimes you can sling the gun but not be a gunslinger. There was a guy who was a gunslinger and then transitioned I'm still a gunslinger. Sometimes you can sling the gun but not be a gunslinger. There was a guy who was a gunslinger and then transitioned to not being a gunslinger. Who? Tashawn Watson, too.

Was a gunslinger in Houston. Throwing the ball all over the place all of a sudden. Now he's just bad. Now it sucks. This video in the corner of my screen is hypnotizing. It is somehow, and I can't believe the sentence I'm about to utter, it is somehow sexier than Will Levis' mayonnaise commercial.

Oh, wow, debatable. He's squint on him, too. He's too hairy for me. Gardner Minchew is, or Levis? I mean, he's very, he's very. Levis, no hair, I mean. Yeah, oh boy. Wait a minute.

Where'd that come from? I don't know. So, wait, so. Italian roots. Wait, wait, wait. What just happened? Wait, wait, wait. What just happened? Wait, wait. This much hair, I think, sweaty,

I would say this is generally unattractive, but I am not the barometer for these things. Why not? Thank God. You guys love to tell me like what men are hot. And then when I'm like, hey, I actually think George Clooney is better looking than Brad Pitt.

And you're like, no, oh my God, you're wrong. Thank you. I was with you on that one, Jessica, but are you now arguing that this sweaty, hairy Gardner Minjoo, you're saying more hair. You're saying more, you want more sweaty hair than this. He doesn't have that much chest hair at all. Like I can see his skin through his chest hair. That's not you want more sweaty hair than much chest hair at all like I can see his skin through his chest hair that's not a lot of chest

hair well I am sort of there's the opposite are you know arm hair a little back here to the sexy amount of chest hair now look no it's not not enough no there's another one it's not to get him when you get stuck together when it's sweaty and it seems like there's not as much as there's there rock on to I love that we see that lower back Let you know what the butt looks like Back come on Really it tells us okay

Let me see your lower back Asshole Okay, literal. Let me see your lower back. Miner penalty two minutes, asshole. No, Minchie's asshole, out, out. The back's hairy, Addison. Out. Out. Billy or Minchie's asshole? Out, out, out, both of you. Me? Miner penalty two minutes, asshole.

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