The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Daddy Issues

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

It's time to do some candy-shaming as we welcome David Samson back into the room to discuss his outrageous candy bag containing several candies the Shipping Container has never heard of. Then, Joker 2 is one of the biggest flops at the movies we've ever seen. What went wrong? Is it a musical? Was it a dream? Jessica lays out the facts. Plus, Jessica accuses the entire show of daddy issues to start a segment where everybody proves they have daddy issues. Help out Hurricane Milton victims with food on the frontlines: Give what you can to World Central Kitchen at Donate.WCK.org/LeBatard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smearnoff company, New York, New York. Our thanks to Smirnoff for sponsoring God Bless Football invading Chicago. Stu Gotz, I don't feel like we got enough information from you on all of the highlights from the Chicago trip. Obviously, you were moved and touched to meet people that we've been talking to and existing in a space, an intimate space in their head because I do believe that this medium is different than almost anything else that I've ever, never mind participated in,

but consumed in how it is that you develop a relationship with people who feel like they know you. So when you go to Chicago, you get a little bit overwhelmed. Do you not? By interacting with a group of people who are coming from all over Chicago that perhaps you didn't know exactly that these are the people you've been talking to for 20 years. You know, we're not going to a quarter deck in South Florida.

We're going to Chicago in the middle of a city that, you know, even though I've been there a ton, I'm not really that familiar with. Billy is certainly not familiar with it, Tony's not. And so we have no idea what to expect. And when we get out there, we are greeted by, I know we made some fun of this yesterday, but what felt like a thousand fans were out there. It was sold to capacity.

Whatever amount of tickets they had to sell for that event, all of them were sold. And so the second I get there and they're in line waiting, I'm flattered, of course. And when I speak to our listeners, Dan, especially during our 20th anniversary here doing the show together, I get emotional because there are times when you do this for a living, where you question what it is you're doing for a living. You know, how important is this stuff really in the grand scheme of things? Essential.

But when you talk to people and they line up to thank you, and I think Dan would say the same, they line up to thank you to tell you that they got, that we got them through their worst time in their lives. For me, that moves me, it makes me so emotional, and it gives meaning to what it is that we're doing on a daily basis. One of the greatest parts about being on tour is that,

and Chicago is one of my favorite stops, but the affirmation you get, while it could just be confirmation bias because of course It's your fans who are buying tickets to see you perform. So they do want to thank you I found the best part was thanking them. That's what I love Yeah, see how is that good and plenty it sounds like you're eating. It sounds a bit disgusting what you have in your mouth Well, you've just eaten. It's clear to everyone who's listening. It sounds like you've just eaten. Jessica. I had some extra saliva is all.

If Jessica hadn't mentioned it, I was going to mention it. We heard your extra saliva. In fact, we didn't hear the rest of what you were saying because of how much we heard your extra saliva. What do you have in that candy bag right now? You carry around, look, there is a long list of strange stuff that we can do with David Sampson about quirky stuff he is, but you having no taste and

no smell and still eating candy is something that is unusually strange even by your standards. I would just think you'd be eating healthier. There is nothing unhealthy about Hot Tamales Good and Plenty, Candy Corn, Pretzel M&Ms, Cookie M&Ms, and Sp and spice drops. Wow, heaven. What is unhealthy about that? Don't candy shame, Dan. You're taking it a little bit too far. Jessica, I feel like I can rain down judgment

on that assortment of candies. Yeah, because it's gross. I mean, let's be honest. Oh my god. It would be my list of top, bottom 10 candies. He's got them all in there. Look, let's go through this again. Because I-

Candy corn, let's start with candy corn. Candy corn is underrated. I'm telling you. One of my favorites. I would say that candy corn is underrated because everyone hates it. Everyone hates candy corn and I don't hate candy corn, but I don't think very many people would put candy corn

at the top of their list. Why would it be manufactured if no one bought it? I'm not saying that people don't buy it, but just because things are popular doesn't mean they're good. Have some taste, you have none. You lost it during the pandemic. I liked all this before.

Candy corn is bottom 10 candies. But he has his memory. I am interested, David. You remember what these things taste like, right? Yeah, but they still all taste the same now, which is a total bummer. But there's no big textural difference in this bag. It's a classic remembering things more fondly

than you experience them at the time situation. He's eating the candy corn and saying, ah, this used to taste really great. But at the time, you hated it. The opposite of my childhood? You just think of it fondly because you're eating it the candy corn and saying, like, ah, this used to taste really great. But at the time, you hated it. You just think of it fondly because you're eating it 40 years later. I don't think memory has anything to do with taste. I don't think Stu got saying, well, you remember I was asking tasted like doesn't help you taste it today. Give me the rest of the list of the candies that are in there, because I saw him eating from the bag of candy yesterday,

and I'm like, ooh, let me go over there and have some. And then he started listing them, and I'm like, no thanks. I will not have a single one of those things that are in that bag. You wanted the Mike and Ike's. Well, they looked like Mike and Ike's until they were cinnamon,

or they were hot tamales, you said, and I'm like, I don't want that. Hot tamales are great. No, the worst. Put that on the poll, please, Juju. Are hot tamales great and are candy corn a bottom 10 candy of all time? You also like black licorice.

You didn't mention that there. Black licorice is the worst of the candies. So I have in my room Twizzlers, but they don't fit in this size baggie because they'd stick out and then it can't seal. I like Twizzlers and I think Twizzlers, but they don't fit in this size baggie because they'd stick out and then it can't seal. I like Twizzlers and I think Twizzlers are substantively better than red vines, but you like black Twizzlers or red Twizzlers?

Black Twizzlers. The red Twizzlers, the only acceptable use is you bite both ends and then put it in your soda and use it as a straw. At the movies in particular? Put that on the poll at LeBittard Show. Is the only acceptable use for red Twizzlers? Bite both ends and use them as a straw.

Speaking of the movies, can I politely veer us into a subject I've been wanting to talk about all week, which is the sequel to The Joker that bombed this weekend at the theaters? I do wanna talk about that. I just want to finish with his back of candy, though. I do want to get to that. And we will get to that before the end of the segment.

I'm promising you that we will get to the end of that because you have requested it. But the only candy I think I like from what it is that David was mentioning there was the M&M's. What about Spice Drops? No, don't like. I don't even know what those are. They have a terrible name. I don't like spicy candies. I don't, there's something about these candies

that you like. You like a flavor here. I understand the texture stuff you're doing, but the flavor stuff that you're doing on spicy and sharp candy tastes is not for me at all. Like cinnamon, I don't want cinnamon. Like this, I'm with Dan on this. What about chuckles?

Oh, I love chuckles. Chuckles are okay. What flavor? The red chuckle or the orange chuckle? I eat them in a particular order. The yellow chuckle's terrible, I mean. I ate that one second, orange chuckle. That's the worst.

Would you do me a favor, David, since Jessica's not familiar with the chuckle, would you hand her a chuckle that you would nominate for being a good chuckle and see if she likes it, or do you not have chuckles? Chuckles aren't in the bag, Dan. Hand-to-hand candy, so he grabs it with his hand and gives it to her?

He doesn't like touching things or people. Not only do I not have a chuckle, but if I did, I would not put my hand in the bag and hand it to Jessica. Okay, but why are we talking about chuckles if I'm asking for what's in the bag? There's spice drops. drop say but I was. I'm asking for what to in your bag. And you're not telling me what's in the bag you're

offering me candy that options that are not in the bag just if you feel you can just touch that purple thing right there on the left just that this sounds with that one right. purple thing right there on the left. I don't like the way this sounds. With that one right. Whoa. Chris, get out. Stop that.

Get off my plane. That's a spice drop. I'm showing you on top of the bag. If you can just grab that. I don't think this is going to be possible. People listening, he's opening the bag now for her to reach her hand. See your hand's in the way, Steven.

Grab the purple thing. See if you can grab, I can't believe these germphobes. David's not going to eat this candy anymore after this. Just grab a damn spicy thing. She grabbed it. Now do you know, Jessica, are you familiar with these spice drops with the flavor of the bitter tang on these things?

No, I'm unfamiliar. Can I eat these? Are these gluten-free, David? Yes, I think these are all sugar. I don't think there's any breading in the spice drop You know sometimes there's flour in things that you don't expect there to be flour. I'm not guaranteeing anything Okay, this is I'm willing to guarantee it But would somebody please look this up is there gluten in a spice drop because I don't think candy generally not this kind of candy

I don't think there's a drop of gluten in that bag of candy because it's just all sugar We've confirmed their gluten free. Why am I eating this by the way? What is just to tell us whether it's any good or not because I don't think that there's a good candy other than the M&M Yeah, it's not good right. Oh my god. It tastes like like a liqueur paint the picture Yeah, like or yeah, maybe like an ouzo flavor. Hmm. Don't know what that flavor is. Like an anise? Yes, yes. He likes black licorice type of flavors. It's not bad, but it's not good. Like I would certainly not choose,

I wouldn't choose it for myself. The face you're making implies it's not good. You aren't chewing it. I buy them in bulk. So whether or not Spice Candy Spice Drops have gluten depends on the brand. So I'm not certain what brand you got. That's so bad. I'm gonna kick what brand you got. That's so bad.

I'm gonna kick your ass, Dan. That is so bad. Oh no. This is the time that Stugats is gonna read the internet. You asked me! I did ask you, but I asked you before she poisoned herself! I asked you for the information. I'm the only one who looked it up!

I asked for the information before she put it in her mouth. What else is in the bag, David, before we get to Joker 2 bombing? And I don't know if any of you guys are watching the Penguin on Max, or if you've read about all the things Colin Farrell had to do to not look like Colin Farrell, to look like the Penguin that included

a detachable Velcro penguin penis that had a beak. There were an assortment of things that he had to do with his costume that Colin Farrell said he never wants to see that costume again. He's Unrecognizable as the as the penguin but before we get to Joker 2 what else is in the bag? What else is in the candy bag David good and plenty those are okay, and the cookie there's several types of M&Ms You got the regular M&Ms. You got the regular M&Ms, you have the cookie inside M&Ms, you have the peanut butter inside M&Ms, and the pretzel inside M&Ms that are mixed here.

Which is the best of those M&Ms according to you guys? Can we get a consensus here? Cause I like the pretzel M&M, I like some of that even though Stugat says that that's overrated. I don't know. I like the peanut butter ones, but that wasn't listed Yeah, there's no peanut eminem I thought you said peanuts no I have no peanut M&Ms ever in the bag Put it on the pole please at LeBata show juju best of the M&Ms the peanut butter M&M the peanut M&M

The pretzel M&M, which one am I missing? Slim Shady. Well the original. No, but there was a fourth one that he mentioned. The cookie. The cookie M&M. So is his penis even in the movie? I don't know, but I just saw an interview with Colin Farrell. I have not seen the penguin yet. I saw an interview where he explained that it's a detachable penis that came with a beak, and he never wants to see the costume in general again, because he looks like he's 150 pounds heavier than he actually is, and there's no indication that it's Colin Farrell.

If you're watching The Penguin, no one would have any idea watching this movie that that's Colin Farrell in any way. Did he do that so when he wore pants, you'd see the beak through the pants like the pole vaulter? Again, I don't know how the penis was showcased for the penguin, I'm just simply telling you that this was what he said when he was quoted

in a magazine article. Am I about to have to Google penguin penis? I already did it for you. Nice, you did it. It says, speaking with people, Ferrer revealed the existence of the penguin's beaked penis, apparently the villain who goes by Oz Cobb, or maybe ooze or or ohs Chris

Cody in the HBO limited series has a nude scene while there isn't any full frontal for Cobb Marino still decided to make a penis for the character Marino is so twisted and brilliant he was like I made you a penguin penis said Farrell thank you for not making Jeremy look up on the work computer penguin penis so what happened with Joker 2 it is not not, I don't know, has there been another one made since Heath Ledger perfected the Joker and it, you know, it was his lasting legacy before dying? Yeah, so the first Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix came out probably, what, four years ago, five years ago now?

Oscar worthy. Yeah, so he nominated for awards, he won the Oscar for best actor, Todd Phillips was the director of it, and it was a huge success, made a billion dollars, but it was pretty controversial for some of the themes in the movie and the sorts of people that a lot of critics claimed it would inspire. A lot of people said that the sort of lonely male character, and it was a pretty bleak character, and that it would inspire, like, you know, a lot of people said that the sort of, like, lonely male character, and it was a pretty bleak character, and that it would be celebrated by the wrong kinds of people. And so, like, the Joker character kind of became, like, a folk hero for a large segment

of the population, while a lot of other people were, like, this movie is trash and the message it sends is trash. It doesn't really matter, though, because it was a humongous success. So the studio decided to make a second one. However, there's been a ton of changes at Warner Brothers from the top down at the studio. And in the process, this movie kind of got put out on its own with zero screen tests, apparently.

Todd Phillips and Walking Phoenix sort of had the concept for it that came to Walking Phoenix in a dream to make it a musical and they decided to just go with that. They each got paid like $20 million for it. Lady Gaga came in, she got paid $12 million for it. It's a sort of musical, they've denied it's a musical but it is a musical and apparently it's terrible and is just a truly horrific movie

and no one has seen it and so it's completely bombed. It's had a worse opening weekend than like Morbius and like a bunch of other very noteworthy superhero flop movies over the last decade. So it's like a huge disaster and it seems like the director and Walking Phoenix sort of just, they did it for each other. And so Todd Phillips has been on a ranch all weekend while his movie has been flopping in the box office. They did it for each other, and so Todd Phillips has been on a ranch all weekend while his movie's

been flopping in the box office. They did it for money. What would you like him to be doing this weekend? For each other to make money, correct. When a movie doesn't work, what do you do? I'm picturing Kevin Costner with Horizon. Is he going theater to theater, city to city, buying tickets? Should he not be on his ranch?

It's just a funny visual that he's hiding at a ranch because his movie's so bad. Like it is a truly bizarre concept for a film. Like the first Joker was like the antithesis of what you would picture a musical being. And so then to have a sequel that is sort of like completely separate from what your first movie was.

To be fair, I haven't seen it. Did I read the entire plot on Wikipedia last night? I did. It sounds really depressing and really sad, just like the first one, but it is totally bizarre that they decided to make it a musical to cast Lady Gaga, to have them both sing and perform throughout. And it sounds like it's just two guys that were sort of left their own devices with very little input from the studio and it didn't end well. I was looking forward unsurprisingly to this becoming a musical. And I thought it was gonna be great

if they took this story that the segment that we're talking about, it's like, it was pretty big in the incel community. And so all these guys were gonna be forced to watch a musical as a followup to the movie that they were so excited about. And all of the folks like myself that were like, man, this is a rough plot in the first one, I was excited.

I was like, oh, okay, they're going the opposite route. They're gonna send the opposite message. They're gonna sing songs and dance. And then they spent the entire promo of it, making sure everyone knew it's not a musical. They just sing when they're too overwhelmed with emotions. Well, sir, that's the definition not a musical. They just sing when they're too overwhelmed with emotions. Well sir, that's the definition of a musical. Joaquin Phoenix is somebody whose movies and choices I will almost always check in on, but his last two, it's

this and Napoleon. I don't think Napoleon did well either. I am remiss in thinking that Heath Ledger was the last Joker, because now that you mention it, the original Joker with Joaquin Phoenix was critically acclaimed as the rare dark movie that people really enjoy, even though they don't necessarily want dark movies. People don't go to the movies generally to feel dark stuff. So I understand the criticism of,

especially in the age of angry, lonely men who are either trolls on the internet or capable of violence in public, feeding the kind of narrative that is dark, angry loneliness from men who just wander around life with their anger. Napoleon did 61.5 million in the United States and did 221 million worldwide. I have no idea if that's good.

Not for what the budget on that was and not for a Joaquin Phoenix vehicle. It was supposed to be something that was bigger than that. Maybe he had a percentage on the back end. So maybe we don't know. It could have been profitable for the studio. But it's interesting to think about what studios do to get a film done.

And having Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips walk in to your office as a studio head and say, hey, we have an idea. And they're gonna do it? You're gonna do it. That's the thing, like a lot of the execs told, I'm getting all this information from the Hollywood Reporter's article about this, by the way, to give them credit. a lot of the execs told, I'm getting all this information from the Hollywood Reporter's article about this,

by the way, to give them credit. A lot of the execs that they interviewed were like, you would be stupid not to green light a sequel to The Joker because of how big of a movie it is. However, maybe giving the director carte blanche to make whatever he wanted wasn't the best idea. I also have a list from Reddit, so I have not fact-checked this, Dan.

This is a list of movies that opened bigger than Joker 2. B-movie. You don't mess with the Zohan. Morbius. So I have not fact-checked this Dan. This is a list of movies that opened bigger than Joker 2 B movie You don't mess with the Zohan Morbius Wild Hogs Scary movie for Grown-ups and grown-ups to media goes to jail high school musical 3 was one That's the best was wild hogs the one with like Robin Williams John Travolta Taking like a motorcycle trip across the country.

Yeah, it worked. Classic. You make fun of that, but that opened big. In fact, they had a sequel, William H. Macy was in that. It opened huge, and it is funny that Tim Allen was in it as well, ridiculously. Marissa Tomei was in it? Wow, now I'll go. How do you know William Macy?

Wild Hogs 2 and you didn't know Jared Leto or Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker? I just forgot. It's not that I didn't know, I forgot. But I wanted to ask you guys something when it came to the superhero movies because they are saying now that the next big show on Sunday night for Max, after Succession,

after Game of Thrones, is the franchise. It is superhero satire, which is a lane now that Deadpool and others are occupying, Guardians of the Galaxy, where it's not your typical superhero movie that is meant to be heroic, but the writing on these things is not unlike the boys on Amazon,

where you're just sort of spoofing the form and doing satire. Have any of you seen the franchise it's supposed to be it's being billed or marketed as the next big thing that max is going to have on sunday night i haven't seen any like promos or anything for it but i know that the one of the executive producers is the guy that did veep and he i think is is really funny has made a ton of really funny shows so I will probably watch it But I have recently finished watching the boys on Amazon Prime, which is sort of like a spoof of a superhero Premise where oh spoiler alert the superheroes. They're bad. They're they're it's great pretty bad

It's a it's a great show. It's it's one of the best things that Amazon Prime has done It's so gory and I love that Aomar from The Lord of the Rings is in it. But anyways, so I never thought that I would enjoy any sort of superhero anything, but it is actually really, really funny. So open-minded about superhero parodies as long as they're well-made, I think.

You said the franchise. I thought you were talking about when they Showtime followed the Marlins for a year in 2012. I do, that's where you were gonna go with franchise. I thought you were talking about when Showtime followed the Marlins for a year in 2012. I knew that's where you were gonna go with that. I thought you were talking about Mark Sanchez. He is the franchise. That was a weird one, because that show was going on and then it wasn't.

It was nine episodes. Let's go ahead and cover this now that David took us there, because it's his show. It was he decided. He was a little ahead of the curve in terms of reality, television, and sports. I don't think that this was before Hard Knocks, but I think it was Showtime's alternative to Hard Knocks,

and they decided to follow around the Marlins, and David Sampson thought it was a great idea, and no one else with the Marlins thought it was a great idea, and as soon as they got inside of the clubhouse, everyone realized this is a terrible idea, but it's only a terrible idea but it's only a terrible idea because of how sacred sports views itself. I think David Sampson was way ahead of the curve in knowing that this was a good idea

well executed and it was just too hot for show time. It was too hot for Jeffrey Loria. That's what that's why it got canceled. Because I remember that's the Ozzie Guion era and I remember Ozzy seeming like he loved the cameras and the attention. We fired him, we suspended him live. The other teams who do hard knocks in the franchise would do retakes and take twos.

We did everything live one take. And we would tell them, hey, we're about to meet with Ozzy Gian and we're suspending him and bring in the cameras. And so they would have the cameras right there and we'd suspend him and it would be the first take. How long did this last before Jeffrey said no? Nine episodes, wasn't it?

Something like that? It lasted through his, through May I would say. I just love the idea of David like, you're suspended. I don't like how that went. Let me do that one again guys. Restart, five, four, three, you are suspended. Let me suspend him again, take two two imagine Woody Johnson doing a take two firing Robert

Saylor on that knock wasn't good enough hold on I got that good wood David you are saying as they mock you for the idea of multiple takes that you were doing this even more dangerously than any of these antiseptic edited shows that the NFL has to approve everything. You are actually trying to do this with a degree of difficulty that would put owners in bad spots and it's why it didn't last. And that's exactly the problem is that what happened was our owner wanted to have a say over the edit and Showtime did not want that.

MLB wanted to be involved in the edit. And my view was, this is this is real this is what we're doing we're suspending Ozzy Gann we're trading players and we ended up trading a bunch of players during that season and after that season we want I wanted the cameras to see it and there's it's not like we're curing cancer for Christ's sake. Oh but the part about that that's funniest to me is that David Sampson who who has a reputation, okay, people can distrust his honesty, he was actually trying to give you the most honest version of this,

and it was too hot for everybody involved. It's what nothing personal is. It's what I do every day. It's giving people actually what's happening, and yes, sometimes Coca gets pissed off, or sometimes Metal Arc or whatever, but this is, I'm not making up things that are going on, and if the cameras are rolling,

I've always been under the view that cameras should always be rolling. Oh man, if NFL Films actually gave us access to the stuff that they don't allow on Hard Knocks because everyone is too sensitive about that, I would pay a lot of money for the archive footage that the Sables have hidden somewhere that they could blackmail the NFL with

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Don Lebatard. I don't like Smutty either. Stugats. Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stoogats. If you have been listening to this show for a while, we have something that I believe no other sports show in America has, which is an assortment of people, not just one or two, who work with their father or have had frustrations around their father while working in and around their father.

There's me with my father on Highly Questionable. There's Chris Cody producing his father's podcast and working with his father on Tuesdays and there is Mike Ryan who has publicly stated at every turn a annoyance with his father that I don't know has gotten any better with age. I just literally hit ignore on his phone call. He knows I'm working. What are you doing? He just turned 70 years old, your father. Your father is a... how do I explain your father to David who doesn't know your father? Your father is a bit of a narcissist. He's a very handsome older man

who has been single for a while. Yep, so far so good. He is beautiful and knows it and carries himself with the confidence of a man who is beautiful and knows it. And you don't like him sometimes. We don't get along all that much. We don't have similar interests, and his general approach is different,

but you don't get to pick your family. He's not somebody I would hang out with if I had the choice. And I hope he's not listening. I don't have the choice, and I love him very much, and he's a really terrific Abu to Juliet. Really surprised us, but still even there, it has to be done on his own terms, but that's all right.

It's okay. Love him. A great grandfather. grandfather i bring it up not a great grandfather as in your grandfather's father but an exceptional grandfather is what i meant the reason i bring it all up is because what are we missing that is about to hit the nba season when the league's oldest player is playing with his son for the Lakers and his son is only on the team because he's the son of the economy of the Lakers. He works hard. I'm so happy you brought this up because it hit me over the weekend. I saw this photo of LeBron sitting on the bench next to Brawny and I thought, okay,

you can get more famous than LeBron James, really, like he's highest tier celebrity. But I think that he is going to connect with a certain group of fans, male fans, fathers, in ways that are pretty profound. Because when I saw that image, me being a dad really painted my whole experience with it. And I'm like, wow, this is gonna be really cool

to see a father, son working together and dads, because so far in that uniform, there is one dad, it's a girl dad, it's Kobe Bryant. And he's always going to be playing catch up there. Kobe Bryant, because of how he approached being a father and also how he approached how we went out, literally being a dad in that moment with his daughter it's a tough act to follow but this is a cool unique way for LeBron to connect to a certain

member of his audience that caught me by surprise i was just all caught up in all the talking points that went along with this and then i saw the image i'm like this is a father and son working together sentimental right up until his son stinks though like syrupy right up until his son can't play and his dad is the world's greatest basketball player. That mean that that yes that true that could happen but that's also another another opportunity for me to connect with LeBron and through the adversity like how are you gonna be a teammate how are you gonna be a teammate? How are you gonna be a dad?

I'm curious about all the questions that this season's going to ask LeBron. I got three great things that are gonna happen during the course of this season that are father-son moments. One, when they're on the road. There's a lot of stuff that goes on on the road with players. Are they gonna have rooms near each other?

Different floors? How is, because there are players who want to be on different floors or same floors as their teammates. Neither one of them are gonna wanna be with each other on the road. This is my view, that they're not gonna be sharing the years. Why not? Oh, I do not think that that is a father-son thing.

I think LeBron would want to be around Brawny, but Brawny is not gonna I don't know some kids like hanging out with their dad, especially when their dad's like LeBron James. To him, to Brawny He's dad. I would think but You guys like your dads like you wouldn't like chill with your dad on a trip? I will tell you that working with my dad brought frustrations that I was not expecting that I had not accounted for that I never once had considered now take that show 42 times on the road and stay with him in the same

Hotel don't worry. That's not gonna happen because here's the second thing that we're looking for Is LeBron in the meeting when brawny sent down to the minor leagues to answer your question? Just no I'm worried. I'm interested in the controlling of Bronnie's minutes. Like, is JJ going to give him any? Does LeBron just decide if we're up big, put him on the court with me so we can have a couple moments here?

Like, there was a moment in the preseason where they played together, and it was nice, but it's... How many 19-year-old boys do you think want to be hanging out and traveling around with their dad? Never mind NBA players, I'm just asking, how many, is he 20 years old? I think we have a lot of daddy issues on the show,

frankly, admittedly from people in both of these rooms. So I would put the number higher than you'd expect. I wouldn't say it's most people, but a lot of people would like hanging out with their dads, I think. I do go to lunch with my dad sometimes. You would probably hang out with your dad, Chris, more than anyone.

Yeah. I called him my best friend in his birthday speech. That was just a... Did you mean it? Yeah, I think so. At this point, I mean, I have kind of grown apart from people I would consider my best friends, but by default, I talk to him a lot.

But what is happening... I'd go to lunch with your dad. What is happening with both you and Mike is, it does he, I'm surprised by that. My dad does not. Not with you though, Dan. Which is another one of my issues. He pays for me though.

How much time do you have? I do think that when it comes to both Mike and Chris, the idea that their lives would shrink with fatherhood, where it gets smaller and they then see that their lives would shrink with fatherhood, where it gets smaller, and they then see what great grandfathers they are, I would think that that would be a glue that would bring you closer together than you were before the birth of both of your daughters.

1000%, me having my daughter brought me and my dad closer. And like I said, I'm really blown away by how good he is with her and how readily available he's been compared to where my expectations were. So yes, just for the record, I love my dad. I think what you're saying, Dan, is Brownie should have a kid during the season. So that grandfather LeBron and son Brownie

come together closer because of great-grandson Brony. It could happen. Not if they're hanging out together on the road it's probably not gonna happen and JJ Reddick's gonna be forced to play that embryo seven minutes a night. Got a good jumper. I do think that their conversation, I think week in and week out, it's going, their dynamic is going to present all new talking points for people that create content. I think LeBron has proven over 20 years that he's a gift that keeps on giving and this is late in his late sage career LeBron. This is something totally

unique. I missed out, I barely remember the Griffys playing together. I can't imagine how cool that was especially around that sport considering you know the father-son dynamic that always surrounds that sport from you know little league on down but this is my only real opportunity to see something like this and I really can't wait to watch it play out beautifully and at times when they run into adversity I think that'll be interesting too. What does he call him on the court? He already said that it can't be dead can't bronze said it cannot be dead So I guess that's blood in the water for other teams. I I'm daddy

Do not say that dude, there's gonna be a lot of crap talk. That's a being done on that court I'm fascinated by it because we've never really been presented with this scenario at least not in modern time That's actually interesting our other players in the NBA gonna be like, yeah, you don't deserve to be here? Like, talking shit like that? Yes. They're gonna be very happy to make him look bad. Brawny, I'm talking about.

Yeah, we saw the Jalen Brown clip, him mouthing, he's only in the league, essentially, because of who his dad is. The league is unforgiving in that sense. But you don't want LeBron to see you doing it, because you might have a friendly relationship, so you're gonna talk crap, but just hope LeBron doesn't hear this. And LeBron to see you doing it. Cause like, you know, you might have a friendly relationship. So you're going to like talk crap, but just like hope LeBron doesn't hear this.

And LeBron also has to realize he can't, he can't do that. He can't put his son in there. Like, Oh what? Your daddy's going to fight all your battles for you. Bronnie's got to be his own man. And also keep in mind what Bronnie's trying to do, considering the health issues that he had at USC, this is also a pretty fascinating story in its own right. Even if his dad wasn't in the league people would have their theories

About him only being in the league because of who his dad is but him trying to overcome Cardiac arrest as it was reported. This is all and who his dad is and playing in that shadow. There is a lot here It's almost sensory overload with all everything that's going on. I've got advice for brawny you do a jailhouse style All right first guy it says anything to you you hit him with a wicked elbow What just right off the right off the ball is ugliest guy you go right to Steven Adams Maybe I put me I plastic I poke hey you're suspended 15 games, but you know what I'm not here to mess around, buddy You say something to me. You're getting this chicken wing right here What I poke would crush what I don't understand is how it is that you guys just went both and this I was not expecting

you gotta go and take out the The biggest guy in the prison yard, but you have to do it like one of the three stooges would do it You have to do it with the with the what if he does this here? What if he does the hand in front of the nose where you can't do the poke of the eyes kick him right in the nuts? the watusi where you can't do the poke of the eyes. Kick them right in the nuts. The Watusi where you just... Did you know if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer? What's capital Thailand? You guys have basically the move, are they still doing... Can someone please smack David's hand into his face right now. Are you doing the move where you're having someone kneel down behind the person and then pushing them over? Oh, what's that on your shirt?

You look down right at your nose. Yeah, it's definitely gonna happen against a Grizz. So Shannon Sharp, you imagine that Shannon Sharp, well he's pro-Lakers and anti-Memphis, but when that stuff all escalates, that Shannon Sharp wants to fight them Grizzlies it's because John Morant's dad is coming after LeBron's kid. LeBron's kid is where we're gonna end up.

We can't wait for Dillon Brooks to try this. He's on Houston now so it can't be with the unfortunately can't escalate with the Grizzlies again is this season sneaking up on you like hockey or basketball is here in the preseason is here but I do believe we haven't talked at all about Bronnie and LeBron like we have spent no time talking about really I think one of the few reasons to talk about the Lakers this year because I mean the entire conference has passed the Lakers like the last the last few years of LeBron the only thing about T what are we doing he's won two trophies there the entire conference has passed LeBron James's Lakers and they're only interesting as a story

because they've got a famous player and a narrative that we have not seen father and son. You're selling them short. The JJ Reddick thing is fascinating. I have a podcaster as our head coach now who's now tasked with coaching a father and son. This is all real good stuff. It's like a sitcom. I cannot wait to fall asleep midway

through the second quarter of these games. Oh, same, it's gonna be awesome. Did you guys see JJ Reddick doing a sort of podcaster thing in his media availability the other day where they were like, is Rui gonna take the next step? And he's like, what's the next step, what do you mean? And they were like, well, he's asking follow-ups to the media. It was such a simple question to answer,

and he made it like, you're creating the narrative, what do you think his next step should be? It's like, just answer the question. It was really weird when he did a game time promo too at the end of it. He's gonna do first take in the question and answer cause he's annoyed by how the media, how little the media knows about the sport it's covering.

Like he's not going to tolerate that. JJ Reddick has been professionally annoying since he got to college. Like it's part of the brand. It's gonna end badly. We know this, right? The Brawny LeBron thing, JJ Reddick, the L's part of the brand. It's gonna end badly, we know this right, the Bronnie LeBron thing, J.J. Reddick, the Lakers not making the playoffs,

Bronnie being sent down. Shocking you would have such a good outlook on this. I love the story, I was thinking in my lifetime I'll never see another father son, ever in the NBA, ever. What if we just recalibrate expectations for one of sports biggest franchise and just make this about a son

having a good time with his dad. I have daddy issues. Dishes. You worked hard though. Jessica accused us all of having daddy issues. You all do. And I can tell because I don't, I just have mommy issues.

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